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jovial tide
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it was intended to be sold at 400-500$

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Yo yo Intel i7 8700k is that better than a Ryzen 3600

brave field
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It outperforms it when overclocked but they're both pretty bad purchases individually

jovial tide
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Might cancel my current order it's the same price

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It's a whole setup

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800 euros

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Procesor: Intel i7 8700k
Proccesor cooling: AIO Cooler Master 240mm
Graphic card: Nvidia RTX 2060 6Gb Gainward GS
Motherboard Asus Strix z370-H
RAM: 16Gb DDR4 Hyperx
SSD: Samsung M.2 960 EVO 256Gb

brave field
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Wouldn't cancel the 2060 + 3600 system for that, unless that 3600 system from before has less ram or so

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The 3600 one has the same GPU and its already on its way, yeah?

jovial tide
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Lemme check

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It is on the way

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And rtx 2060

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EVGA GEFORCE RTX 3070 XC3 ULTRA - 940CAD (with shipping) no extra fees

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Lemme check the specs of the one I ordered

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AMD Ryzen 5 3600
MSI B450 Tomahawk
Ballistix 2x8GB 3200Mhz
Adata SX6000 M.2 256GB SSD
Curcial MX500 250GB SSD
WD Blue 1TB HDD
Gigabyte RTX 2060 6GB OC Edition
Corsair CX550M 550W these are the specs @CookieStudios#5609

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This is the one I ordered

brave field
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don't return it for the 8700k one

jovial tide
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@brave field

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Ok

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Interesting, now I'm going deeper into gpu market

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You can't win a bid against bots

twilit marten
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Someone help

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my frienc cant obtain the modder role

jovial tide
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it's that simple

brave field
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Arash modder confirmed

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if !join modder isn't working for your friend, tell them to contact modmail

jovial tide
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Yeah I'm confirmed. xD I've used OpenIV to put cars into GTA solo player and made FiveM server xd

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Can't wait to mod single player games

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Also should I use steam to buy and download games or any other sites?

brave field
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Steam is good but the others are worth considering

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GOG, Epic, Ubisoft Connect, Origin, battle.net, the Xbox app, and Rockstar's launcher all will give some good deals or free games occasionally

jovial tide
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Nice so all of them?

brave field
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Most of them are pretty usable, yeah. Steam is by far the best in user experience and featureset

digital cosmos
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is the alienware M17 i7 3070 17" worth buying?

lost fossil
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alienware
no

jovial tide
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I've just returned an Alienware M15 R6 (11800H + 3070) today after 1 week of back and forward talking with Dell.

digital cosmos
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I saw it on bestbuy

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its a nice laptop

jovial tide
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So the bestbuy option is good, but I highly recommend you get the warranty with it.

digital cosmos
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makes sense

jovial tide
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Also Dell's version with extended warranty is fine. but if you just get it as is, you'll not be happy longterm

digital cosmos
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yeah it was on bestbuy for 2575

jovial tide
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Because that 50 to 90 in 0.5 seconds and 90-100 in CPU bound games will be taxing

digital cosmos
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makes sense

jovial tide
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I loved it tbh, but I thought it's not gonna last more than a year and a half like this.

digital cosmos
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so they will slowly break down?

jovial tide
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It's like having a car on 6000rpm with 97 degrees water

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Sooner or later something will be damaged

digital cosmos
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theres a place near me that repairs laptops etc.

jovial tide
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Canada or US?

digital cosmos
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so that shouldnt be a big problem

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US

jovial tide
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X15 is perfect my friend

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If you really need bigger monitor, buy a monitor on the side, it works well with the laptop.

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It has USB-C displayport built in so you can get a USB-C to DP 1.4 cable and connect a g-sync monitor to it

digital cosmos
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nah I want the laptop for school and maybe play a couple games without lag

jovial tide
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What games do you play?

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Anyways I think you'll love the X15 + the 240Hz display + 1TB SSD
You should wait for it to go on sale (soon it will) and buy it

iron lantern
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where the first week is fine but the rest is trash

jovial tide
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The X15 and X17 are perfect

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My M15 was probably broken (at full speed the left side fan pushed more air out compared to rightside)

vapid grove
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Yeah I'm sure it was a one off occurrence

digital cosmos
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people say its a good laptop

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like its a monster

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so im convinced on purchasing it

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since I also believe it runs 300 hz o a bit higher

jovial tide
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Wanna see some results?

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The 3070 in that laptop is better than rank #1 3060 desktop GPU and on the 30% bottom of 3060TI desktop
Display was fantastic (the 240Hz one)
Audio was above good
CPU cooler was trash (broken probably)
Bios one of the best
RAM kind of bad (3200MHz C20)
SSD perfect (Samsung - 1TB)

Now imagine all of this with better cooling and ram; X15 is perfect.

cold elbow
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Now imagine all that in miniatx enclosure

jovial tide
cold elbow
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There are a lot of nice small cases

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Like that one from coolermaster that comes with its own AIO and PSU

jovial tide
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Man finding a GPU makes me wanna not buy a PC ever again

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I'll have to camp near bestbuy downtown Montreal when they restock

cold elbow
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Buy a pre-build from a good company

jovial tide
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I like that, but they all cheap out on something.

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Ram, SSD, motherboard, psu.

cold elbow
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Some of them use off the shelf parts

jovial tide
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Is there a Canadian prebuilt company?

cold elbow
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Probably

jovial tide
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So they tell you Trident Z rams right? and they get C22

cold elbow
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As i said

jovial tide
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3600MHz 16GB Trident Z you receive C22

cold elbow
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Some use off the shelf parts that specify everything about them

jovial tide
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Hmm interesting

cold elbow
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Looks ok

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U can build it cheaper if you are not that much into rgb

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And i think that board is expensive

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Unless u need whatever it offers

jovial tide
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Yep I need the wifi but it really doesn't matter to me what to get as long as it has good VRMs
I saw B550 gaming edge wifi was one of the best there.
Also, I don't care about RGB and couldn't find a better CPU cooler, care or non-rgb ram

cold elbow
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Tomahawk usually is really good board

cold elbow
jovial tide
cold elbow
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Liquid freeze literally destroy the competition

jovial tide
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Arctic freezer's the same price; does it have better performance?

cold elbow
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It should be cheaper

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Waaaay cheaper

jovial tide
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I see same price as h100i pro

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both 150CAD

cold elbow
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For a 240?

jovial tide
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yes

cold elbow
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That's ridiculous

jovial tide
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150 canadian flat

cold elbow
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It should be like 90$

jovial tide
cold elbow
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Anyways for this i guess going corsair is alright

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Even when u get better performance

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Because 150 is a lot for the liquid freezer

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It has restocking issues

jovial tide
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Ok then, so the pcpartpicker list is fine

cold elbow
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Btw

jovial tide
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Do I go for Tomahawk + wifi card instead?

lost fossil
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arctic freezer aint got the looks Weirdmonka

jovial tide
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Or B550 Gaming Edge Wifi?

cold elbow
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There is this Canadian pre-build company that is called canadaComputers

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They are ok

jovial tide
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Oh CanadaComputers prebuilds?

cold elbow
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Yes

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If you know a youtuber called dawid

jovial tide
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That's really good news I love Canada Computers

cold elbow
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He made a video about it

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He is also Canadian

jovial tide
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I know gigabyte but tough times, this might just be the move

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100-150$ above the regular price

cold elbow
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Let's assume that ssd is 200$?

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They are still charging 800 for 3060 ti

jovial tide
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That's ok price for today's market

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X570 edge is meh though

cold elbow
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How about

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Try to build a computer by them

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And see how that goes

jovial tide
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they don't offer unfortunately

cold elbow
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I think the second bundle makes more sense tbh

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I meant put together parts for a pc

jovial tide
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The second bundle I'd love to buy, even though X570 Gaming Edge VRMs are not that good

cold elbow
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It's still an x570

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U can even save a buck by buying 3200 cl16 ram instead of 3600 cl18

jovial tide
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flat 360 + 800

cold elbow
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I don't think it makes any difference

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Don't like that card lol

jovial tide
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the anti mining card

cold elbow
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About their pre-builds, they only come with one complaint
They don't enable XMP and the cooler isn't very good

jovial tide
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I think if I buy a bundle I can build a better one for same price

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but idk about LHR cards

cold elbow
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They are ok

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Exactly the same as the non lhr

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But when it comes to mining they give like 70%?

jovial tide
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It says mining voids warranty KEKW

cold elbow
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Why u even care about mining

jovial tide
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man these bundles are confusing

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I don't care really

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nah overpriced

cold elbow
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U don't need to go that route

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Keep it under a controlled budget harold

jovial tide
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so it's between these:

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there are gigabyte offers but fk it who wants gigabyte

cold elbow
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Msi offer was fine

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How much that in USD?

jovial tide
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there is also this

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divide by 1.3

cold elbow
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700?

jovial tide
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this last one seems insanely good

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idk about MSI MPG A750GF's quality but it seems great

cold elbow
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770$

jovial tide
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670 last one for psu + 3060ti msi

cold elbow
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Yeah that looks ok

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After all 750 is more than enough

jovial tide
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yeah but power response under stress

cold elbow
jovial tide
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fk it I'm buying it

jovial tide
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not in stuck 😐 I can't buy them

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probably they don't ship to Quebec

cold elbow
jovial tide
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can someone help me with my temps. CPU is always like 20-30 degrees higher than my gpu regardless if im gaming or browsing

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this is on laptop

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Not sure if my settings are messed up, via control panel. etc etc

vapid grove
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#justlaptopthings

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I wouldn't worry about temps like that, perfectly fine

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Measure it at full load and see what your CPU hits

jovial tide
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whenever i go onto gta, keeps using integrated most of the time compared to my actual gpu

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only getting around 40-50 fps regardless of my settings ingame. Whether its high or low

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Drivers are up to date aswell

vapid grove
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Not sure if you can do this on GTA but you can add a commandline.txt on some games for force them to use your GPU.

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Or just disable igpu in bios if it allows you to

prisma citrus
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you can ensure that the game uses the dedicated high power card instead of the iGPU using the Nvidia Control Panel

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also

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laptops have different settings for battery and plugged-in modes

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most apps switch to iGPUs on battery mode

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totally normal for a laptop cpu to idle at 50+ celcius

civic cloud
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@prisma citrus <3

zealous pasture
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how can i fix this 403 forbidden in epic games

kindred temple
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VPN

zealous pasture
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hmm maybe ill try

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i reinstalled epic and it still occurs

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but

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what if i disable vpn after im in

zealous pasture
kindred temple
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Ye

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Ask your ISP if you block epic games

zealous pasture
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they dont

kindred temple
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And check if MS firewall is blocking epic games

zealous pasture
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where do i check that hmmm

kindred temple
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Open windows defender firewall

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And sort by action, for both inbound and outbound

zealous pasture
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epic isnt there

slim bluff
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make sure you've updated epic games launcher (I know there has been an update recently since mine has just updated), if you haven't updated your client could be trying to access api endpoints that url parameters etc have changed

jovial tide
jovial tide
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That's a really good laptop overall

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I want you to do this for me right click on desktop -> click on nvidia control panel

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Then go to the desktop menu on top of the application and enable everything
Do you see Nvidia Optimus there?

jovial tide
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I mean in the desktop menu on top, you can take a screenshot with the menu open with winkey+shift+s

jovial tide
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woops wrong ss

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is everything in that menu enabled?

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in the screenshot above select let 3d application decide

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then send a screenshot of your bottom right side of your taskbar

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like this

jovial tide
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Ok there's no Nvidia optimus apparently how about in 3d settings?

jovial tide
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next to desktop 3d settings

jovial tide
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Ok then put it on let the 3d application decide then call it a day

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Then is that it?

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Yep, also do you have GeForce Experience?

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yeah

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Do you have it logged in?

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yep

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For each game there is a 🔧 you can use to fine tune your settings

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It's right next to the optimize button when you open game settings in GeForce Experience

jovial tide
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during the game does it utilize your nvidia gpu?

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you can figure that out by pressing alt + R in game

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From looking at task manager. Most definitely not

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seems to be using mostly integrated

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You're looking at task manager out of the game

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Oh

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Ima try loading up the game then

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Yeah press that alt + r button

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see if it works for you

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Helios has no nvidia optimus so the monitor goes through the integrated graphics to reach dedicated graphics
And that only happens when you have a game open asking for it

jovial tide
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it doesn't support the geforce overlay either then

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how about alt + z?

jovial tide
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is the outcome

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Yeah you don't have anything, what if you enable experimental options in GeForce Experience settings?

jovial tide
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There are some other options in there for battery savings and green crap

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disable them aswell

jovial tide
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idk what's happening there send screenshots

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it's probably downloading the latest driver to enable that.

jovial tide
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enable in game overlay

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make sure whisper mode and battery boost are disabled

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then the alt + z and alt + r should work

jovial tide
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So alt + z -> settings -> performance -> advanced

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then alt + r

jovial tide
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it should be something like that yeah

jovial tide
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Now you can see everything in games

jovial tide
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Well close the game try again

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I assume you installed the features while GTA was open

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Ok

jovial tide
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Yeah now you can do a GTA benchmark by going to settings -> graphics -> pressing tab

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You can't do this while ur in single/online but in main menu you can

jovial tide
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well the optimized settings aren't for you then, use the wrench pull it towards performance benchmark again

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Ok

jovial tide
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that's acceptable

jovial tide
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well you have a CPU bottleneck there then

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there's nothing you can do about that really

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oof

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so in this case you would need a better cpu then

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yeah but it's a laptop you can't really

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get an alienware m15 r6 when you have the money in a few months

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It (the 11800H + 3070 laptop) performs like 5800x + 3060TI desktop

jovial tide
fervent granite
jovial tide
fervent granite
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and would be a lot smaller

jovial tide
# fervent granite and would be a lot smaller

And here is when reality kicks in
Most of those gaming laptops won't have nvidia optimus or optimus advanced and they won't also have the switch to turn it off and use dedicated only.
And the cooling sucks for the most part.

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It'll work, but for how long with those sub-par cooling in the 2000 USD range?

fervent granite
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Well yeah laptops like that usually have shitty cooling, but if we put those same gpus in a desktop it'll have adequate cooling @jovial tide

jovial tide
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You can't No

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You'll need to design a motherboard for it based on some chipset

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or a PCB that turns the chip into an actual usabe PCI-e x16 card
That will cost more than a 1000-1800$ card you buy from scalpers

fervent granite
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or we could just move everything to arm hmmm

jovial tide
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arms for embeded computers not PCs

fervent granite
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arm is the future

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leave x64 behind

cloud nova
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I'm having a bunch of wacky bugd

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On xbox 1

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Not gta

brave field
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ARM could be the future

cloud nova
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First i had crashes, then storage shit, then ejecting disc = xbox shutdown, and now just good ol' "you do not own this"

brave field
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but we desperately need Intel and AMD working with ARM

cloud nova
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Makes me miss my original xbox

fervent granite
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well intel is still having a hangover, and it doesn't look like amd is interested Sadge

brave field
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Adopting ARM is going to have lots of issues without them

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We NEED backwards compatibility, but in a way that doesn't compromise everything else being able to exist and work properly

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and nobody should know x86_64 better than the folks making it... I think...
Can't rely on Microsoft or Apple to make all the decisions either, sadly

fervent granite
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that's part of the problem though, if we always have backwards compatibility available people will be less incentivised to build arm releases

brave field
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There needs to be a good middleground somewhere

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Not Apple-style where you drop support on some random Tuesday and people just stop developing for you entirely, and not Microsoft-style where you keep OS-level bugs so Word 2003 works on Windows 11

fervent granite
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So like adobe flash basically?

brave field
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I think the way WOW64 and NTVDM are handled is good, and the Linux way of "Just build everything on Java/Python/dotnet/Js unless you have to write for the OS" works alright

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Flash was retired terribly too!

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Adobe offered no way to backup or use Flash programs afterwards

fervent granite
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Yeah but they warned us well in advace too

brave field
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warning is good

fervent granite
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although abruptly forcing everyone to adopt arm is heavy-handed, it could be very effective monkaHmm

jovial tide
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moving to arm is a pain fo everyone

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but if the industry moves that way it will open the doors to lots of new possibilities

fervent granite
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in the tech world I mean, to me it seems like everyone has the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" which is why we still have to deal with old bugs

lost fossil
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if server space and consoles move to arm Kreygasm

jovial tide
civic cloud
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@lost fossil fucking FUCK

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the radiator would have JUST ABOUT FIT

lost fossil
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pics

civic cloud
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BUT

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THE FUCKING FANS

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dont

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Because ram too big

lost fossil
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pics

civic cloud
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No fuck off

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Put it back into original state

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Ordered p12 fans now

lost fossil
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what about the front

civic cloud
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No

lost fossil
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bruh you didn't even try

civic cloud
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fuck off

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The radiator was literally laying ON THE RAM

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ALSO

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NOTCUA THE FUCKERS

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they make 140mm fans

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With

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120mm HOLES

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like wtffffff

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so in conclusion

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I keep the 360mm rad

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And bought 3xp12 fans

lost fossil
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he didn't try to put 420 in the front Weirdmonka

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i cringe at this man

civic cloud
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It doesn't fit you lil shit

lost fossil
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yes but like

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you were supposed to show

civic cloud
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The 360 just about fits in the front

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ur mom

lost fossil
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what the fuck kind of case supports 420 fans but only 360 rad in the exact same place ULTRAKEK

civic cloud
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is u dumb

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It doesn't support 420 rads

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It supports 2x360

lost fossil
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where does it say 420 rads

civic cloud
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Why do you bully me

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I just spent 3hrs draining the loop, trying to fit in the rad, and putting the loop back together how it was originaly

lost fossil
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because you refuse to use the 420 rad because gLaSsS pAnEL lOoKs bEtTeR pepega

civic cloud
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I BOUGHT YOUR ARCTIC FANS

lost fossil
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yes but

civic cloud
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MY MAN

lost fossil
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what ram do you even have

civic cloud
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I TRIED IT ON TOP

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CAN YOU READ

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(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

jovial tide
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Some fker tried to scam me on facebook market

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(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

lost fossil
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┬─┬ノ(ಠ_ಠ ノ)

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asplain

civic cloud
lost fossil
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but when you say "The radiator was literally laying ON THE RAM" do you mean radiator touching the ram without fans installed?

civic cloud
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Yes

lost fossil
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shit

civic cloud
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NO SHIT

lost fossil
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did not expect

civic cloud
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THICC rad

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45mm

lost fossil
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look that case is the size of a house i expected it to fit things

civic cloud
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Maybe the 30mm with low profile fans would fit

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BUT

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I'm not buying another rad

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I gotta try to sell the dang 420mm rad

lost fossil
civic cloud
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Look

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The rad fits

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The fans dont

lost fossil
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then like

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put the left and the right fan

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bc they fit

civic cloud
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No

lost fossil
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leave the middle fan out

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ez

civic cloud
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They don't fit as well

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Because noctua

lost fossil
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but that's a different problem tho

civic cloud
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Noctua makes their 140mm fans in 120mmx150

lost fossil
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say if they were legit 140s and not this 120mm nonsense, would they have worked?

civic cloud
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Which is dumb as fuxk

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Well, 2 out of 3 would have worked, yes

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No, I'm not taking the loop out again

lost fossil
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good enough peepoNeat

civic cloud
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:(

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No

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Heck off

lost fossil
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tbf it was your fault from the beginning when you expected a single 360 to take care of a 3900x and a 3080

civic cloud
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People told me it would be FINE OKAY

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3900xt

lost fossil
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if i ever go custom loop i'm putting 2 280s in

civic cloud
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Cool for you

lost fossil
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yeah it's gonna be cool obviously because 2 280 is enough for basically anything

civic cloud
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Ok

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Cool

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(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

lost fossil
civic cloud
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:(

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I'm going to sleep

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My room looks like shit

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PC shit everywhere

lost fossil
civic cloud
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Yes

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Angory sleep

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Because i spent 70 bucks on a rad

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Instead of buying 3 fans for 15 bucks

lost fossil
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you can sell it anyway

civic cloud
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Hopefully

lost fossil
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sell for the same 70 because you didn't even get to use it

civic cloud
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Will try

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Prolly won't work lmao

lost fossil
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no but wait didn't you want rjebait in the front?

civic cloud
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What

lost fossil
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why get regular black fans then

civic cloud
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No

lost fossil
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you have nice GOTTEM rgb fans in the front rn

civic cloud
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I have the 3x140 in the front

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Rad behind

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AND then the 3x120

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So push+pull

lost fossil
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ok good

civic cloud
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Yes

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Tha fans arrive on Tuesday.

lost fossil
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i had my own issues with noctua fans

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well, not the fans specifically, but these clips that you use to attach fans to a heatsink

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these didn't work with unifans because of the daisychain tabs so i had to use zipties ULTRAKEK

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reminds me of another time when had to use zipties to attach a noctua fan to a noctua heatsink that already had a noctua fan attached

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noctua pepoWeer

civic cloud
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Sorry for being upsetti

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Just the utter waste of time

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And the fact that it got denied by stupid shit

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Is upsetting

jovial tide
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Buy a new case ThonkHappy

cold elbow
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Buy flowers

fervent granite
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Fixed discord mobile

brave field
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No ginormous nitro gifting button to be found?!

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What is this, old version, against ToS version, new update?

cold elbow
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What im looking at @fervent granite

brave field
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I neeeeeed this back without downgrading app or breaking ToS

fervent granite
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Nah I just went in the app’s container and deleted the button’s resource icon KEKW

cold elbow
kindred temple
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:tos:

brave field
cold elbow
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Why is it blue

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Fishy

fervent granite
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Rip fishy

brave field
cold elbow
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Oh I remembered that the iphone still doesn't have a real dark mode like Android

brave field
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Discord could fix this issue by just letting us save custom CSS to a file and load on startup, you can already access everything anyways

fervent granite
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I mean all it does is gives it a different colour peepoShrug

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Or just give us native customisation options

brave field
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Native customization without nitro paywall pls

brave field
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too high imo

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wait for sale/put sale sites in your notifs feed

jovial tide
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I'm kind of desperate; it's hard to find a good graphics card nowadays

brave field
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Canadian Newegg but US PCPP peepoSusp

jovial tide
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I'm pepega

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So that price is still good in worst case scenario

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It adds up to 1800 CAD

brave field
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o wow

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600 CAD when in stock, mmmm...

#

comparison is pretty crispy

jovial tide
#

which part? the GPU?

brave field
#

ye

#

well, the last time AmazonCA had it

jovial tide
#

So Cookie in Canada only Bestbuy distributes the card pretty much

brave field
#

Only looking for Founder's? Or have the other retailers just stopped?

jovial tide
#

Others god knows what they do. and for that you have to camp near a bestbuy since 5-6am

#

Then you can get a card 3060ti or 3070 for about 650-1000 dollars

#

And they often don't even have the founders edition, they have EVGA, MSI, Asus and mostly low hash rate cards

#

Chances of getting a card from those stores for about at least 20 days from now is basically near zero

brave field
#

ah

jovial tide
#

And others are like ebay bids at 1000-1100, Amazon for 1100-1200 (1-2 options with 50$ shipping extra), or a prebuilt

jovial tide
brave field
#

3060ti with 1080p?

jovial tide
#

Yep

brave field
#

hm

#

$1825 USD sounds painful but it beats not having a system at all

jovial tide
#

I'm sure it will perform better in games compared to the last laptop, and I saved 100$

brave field
#

delivery time?

jovial tide
#

5 days to a week

brave field
#

oh nice!

jovial tide
#

So we have 15% provincial and canadian added tax here

#

1576 before tax usd

vapid grove
#

That seems like a lot for that setup

jovial tide
#

Do you have any alternative? (that's including the monitor)

vapid grove
#

Isnt that like a $200 monitor

jovial tide
#

250CAD yep

vapid grove
#

On second thought, not terribly too much

#

Been seeing comparable prebuilts for ~$1300

jovial tide
#

I couldn't find any

#

the 1800 number checks out

vapid grove
#

Bunch of them popping up on /r/buildapcsales, the lower priced ones usually dont last long

jovial tide
#

same company, less ssd + shipping + customs tax = even more than this 1800CAD

vapid grove
#

It's mind boggling that there are still 3600/1660 rigs priced over $1k

jovial tide
#

It is what it is 🤷‍♂️ there is definitely demand for them

#

This was my cheapest decent option - - also thinking about it, this PC is gonna be better than that Alienware M15 R6 I returned (11800H + 3070 laptop) - - the CPU itself not really, but overall better gaming experience.

kindred temple
#

Thats typical price

#

Also, 248Q is kinda basic, keep it at 144 ive heard a lot of ghosting complains in 165 mode.

jovial tide
#

I'm gonna run it on 144 ofcourse

pliant lynx
#

im buying that keyboard

jovial tide
kindred temple
#

18$ a pop

#

So to make a TKL like that tiktok itll cost you

pliant lynx
#

i need a table for that

kindred temple
#

1566$

#

Excluding board

pliant lynx
#

my table is too squarish

jovial tide
#

I live here.

unreal iron
civic cloud
civic cloud
#

@lost fossil put in the damn Noctua fans on top for now, lil extra airflow

#

Will add the new fans behind the rad on tuesday

#

Then cry if temps didn't change

lost fossil
civic cloud
#

what

#

Sending back the third one I ordered (after stealing the fan screws)

cold elbow
civic cloud
#

i don't have screws okay

cold elbow
#

Will tell them that u stole the screws

civic cloud
#

Why do you want to defend amazon

#

I'm sure Jeffy can afford to give me 4 screws

cold elbow
#

But it's not Amazon

#

Poor arctic seller

civic cloud
#

huh

#

im taking the screws from the noctua fan i ordered

zealous pasture
#

i need a laptop under 1200 cad hmmm

lilac heath
civic cloud
#

@lost fossiltheres a v2 of the 420mm rad...which is 6mm shorter...which would mean it could fit

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imma see how temps are with the new fans are

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before buying another rad

lost fossil
zealous pasture
civic cloud
zealous pasture
lilac heath
zealous pasture
#

hmm send link

lost fossil
jovial tide
#

Do not buy Dell from Dell itself, I repeat don't

#

When you have a problem their answer is like this most of the time:
We understand your concerns, I spoke to the technical professionals, it seems what you are experiencing is perfectly normal and there is nothing to be worry about.

#

According to our extensive testing there is no problem, there will be no problem ever, doesn't matter what you say you pepega. --Dell

#

Meanwhile your laptop might be burning in flames

civic cloud
#

i managed to scram all my boxes of pc parts in the box of the case :D

#

intense real life tetris

simple valve
#

id def give that a hard sheesh

#

sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh

civic cloud
#

Thank

jovial tide
#

1080ti or 2060

#

1080ti if it works well

arctic yarrow
#

1080ti even beats a 3060 if you're not doing raytracing.

jovial tide
#

yeah but the problem is, the more a computer system is used (like graphics card) more errors it has over time or less clock rate. bloated capacitors are not uncommon

lost fossil
#

i thought that only applied to those old capacitors that run on printer toner

jovial tide
iron lantern
#

Im confused over the corsair commander core and commander pro, since the H150i Elite Capellix comes with a commander core, im not required to get a commander pro, but whats the difference if i have 9 fans in total that i need to link up?

jovial tide
#

And how many uses?

#

I don't know really. they taught us that in university

#

I assume over 500

#

At least

#

Takes a while tho Right?

#

Yeah a few years after production

vapid grove
#

few years?

#

Most capacitors have a lifespan of around 20 years

jovial tide
#

This is not just for capacitors

vapid grove
#

at least they do in speakers

#

cant imagine other electronics are much different

jovial tide
#

1080ti has been out like 4 years

vapid grove
#

I'd bet if something is going to go on a GPU it'll be a mosfet before a cap

jovial tide
#

The more a hardware device is used, more likely some of its parts start to fail and after its intended lifetime it fails exponentially

#

Now the more interesting part is let me give you an example

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5000 hours under load at 105 degrees a bit more under lower temps but still it's not much

#

Dam

kindred temple
#

Fuck no.

#

Get ceramic capacitor. This is 2021 not 2001.

jovial tide
#

Not really that different

brave field
#

err

#

Weird seeing this discussion about GPUs that have barely been out 5 years when there are entire PCs that still work under 15-20 years of 24/7 uptime

#

of course failure becomes more common, and 15-20 of 24/7 uptime isn't guaranteed, but a 1080ti? That's still fresh

jovial tide
#

My schools computers are like 4000 years old

iron lantern
#

in my school

jovial tide
#

The 5000 hours is for full load on a component

#

Also I really doubt there is a consumer computer running for 15-20 years without any redundant chips sooner or later parts degrade.

#

If that was the case, electronic repair shops (such as yours) would have been all bankrupt

brave field
#

Anecdote so it doesn't mean too much, but the PC got its first extended period of downtime last month, when its drive finally died.

#

Hardware failures still seem SUPER rare for anything from the past decade though

kindred temple
#

All RNG.

brave field
#

A lot of what electronic repair shops deal with is TVs with terrible and cheap parts, Dell prebuilt hard drives, which seem to come dying out of the box, physical damage like drops or water damage, software issues, ram reseats, etc.

jovial tide
#

So the thing is some of your faulty vrms on a gpu board degrade

#

They won't bring it to you right? and the card will still somehow work

#

It's failing but not entirely the performance is not at its highest point

brave field
#

That said, GPU caps blowing has been the most common I've seen

#

Its highest point being above stock, yes?

jovial tide
#

No meaning the original output

#

Like when the board is brand new out of factory with no time being in the shelf

#

Because on top of lifespan, there is a shelf life for components
I remember my last PC back in my country (4 years old) worked with bloated capacitors and an incompatible nvidia dual channel ram which was intended for 1.5V but nowhere near its original state; people don't feel the need to repair these kinds of boards maybe

brave field
#

That damage, fair

#

yet to see many resources stating below stock, but have read quite a lot about not being able to OC as much and keep stability after enough use

jovial tide
#

Well you can test some of the cards and parts if you have the right tools

#

It's gonna be a headache finding info on each part though

#

Gtx 1080ti i7 7700k or i7 8700k rtx 2060

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Hmm do you have to?

brave field
#

What happened to your 3600 2060 order?

jovial tide
#

I've just bought a pc for 1550 usd

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10400f 3060 ti and a monitor 165hz

#

It's on the way but I can cancel it at any time so I'm looking at other PCs @brave field

#

Is it brand new?

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The one I ordered?

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Yes

#

It's brand new

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Never used

#

Buy it dude all I said was for used computers

#

How much?

#

It's 800 euros

#

Ryzen 3600 rtx 2060

#

What about 1080ti

#

It was used twice or three times

#

Hmm not sure how true that is

#

Go with ryzen

lilac heath
jovial tide
lilac heath
#

Ind

jovial tide
#

you get better food and kamasutra instead

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India's cool man

lilac heath
junior flax
#

£ btw

covert carbonBOT
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jovial tide
#

Just for other people to know, that's against server rules. The dude wants you to transfer him money to get a game pass so he can use it on xbox and you can use it on PC; but never send money to anyone online 😉

#

!rule 10

iron pecanBOT
#
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jovial tide
#

thx for keeping this a safe dc server

brave field
#

!ban 424666769576165377 phishing

covert carbonBOT
#

zepcheck Banned rick_hs123#8323 (Case #122995) (user notified with a direct message)

jovial tide
#

3050 vs 3060?
Is there vast difference or just slightly??

lost fossil
#

ngl i never regarded 50 class gpus as worthwhile but a 3050 would be definitely better than a 1060 which is a solid card ngl

#

so looking from that point of view i'd say 3050 can be enough depending on the games you play

#

3060 is too 📈

tribal hedge
#

GUYS HOW DO I ADD A NEGATIVE TO A POSITIVE!!!!

fervent granite
#

-3 + 4 = 1

lost fossil
#

or subtract the modulus of the smaller number from the larger number

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4 - |-3| = 1

fervent granite
#

what's the point of using the absolute value of -3?

lost fossil
#

idk

fervent granite
jovial tide
#

Like laptop 3060 1080p is perfect, 3070 1440p is perfect too

slim bluff
#

All I have is a laptop with a Pentium dual core at 1Ghz

plucky raft
#

I upgraded my graphics card today

slim bluff
plucky raft
#

Gt1030

#

The game is a lot better now

slim bluff
#

what were you on to begin with

plucky raft
#

Some shit card with no fan

slim bluff
#

damn

plucky raft
#

My friend strapped a fan to it by zipties

slim bluff
#

GTA runs really nice for the quality of graphics it provides

plucky raft
#

I run everything on low

slim bluff
#

I can max out GTA V settings on a GTX 1650 SUPER, which isn't even super high end

slim bluff
plucky raft
#

Wow

#

Wish i can do that

#

My computer is very old and keeps breaking

slim bluff
#

its great, compare that to Warzone and i'll struggle to get 60 fps on low settings

plucky raft
#

Can i run warzone on 1030

#

Oh wait my ram will probably prevent me from running it

slim bluff
#

I'm pretty certain it's more rooted to the CPU than the GPU

#

but there are so many great games out there that you can run a GT 1030 on

plucky raft
#

I don't really know

slim bluff
#

the quality of a game isn't defined by its graphics

plucky raft
#

Tried cs go and that was too much

slim bluff
plucky raft
#

No i mean

#

Too much for me

slim bluff
#

ah

plucky raft
#

Gta is unique by the open world and the social aspect

slim bluff
#

Hades is a mixture between 2D and 3D, technically its 3D but it can feel sort of 2D at times because it's played from and isometric perspective

plucky raft
#

Aha

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Interesting

slim bluff
#

It looks beautiful but I can't imagine its that graphically intensive

plucky raft
#

How much it cost

slim bluff
#

or take for example another one of my favourite games, Hollow Knight. An open world 2D game

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plucky raft
#

Kinda pricy for me

slim bluff
plucky raft
#

Maybe get it one day on sale

slim bluff
#

and again another one of my favourite games, terraria. You could probably run the game on a potato and is a beautiful and fun 2D survival/story game

#

its also relativity cheap

#

Dig, Fight, Explore, Build: The very world is at your fingertips as you fight for survival, fortune, and glory. Will you delve deep into cavernous expanses in search of treasure and raw materials with which to craft ever-evolving gear, machinery, and aesthetics? Perhaps you will choose instead to seek out ever-greater foes to test your mett...

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these 3 games I have mention can all be ran on a GT 1030

plucky raft
#

Yhat one i was actually considering it

vapid grove
#

Terraria blobJustRight

jovial tide
#

Just got informed by PC order got cancelled 😐

#

Still don't know why

#

Trying to find a better PC rn

jovial tide
#

Croatia

#

Is amazon germany ok for you?

#

or Amazon italy is better?

#

Italy

#

Its better cause Italy is way closer n stuff

#

Nothing really catches my mind

#

I already found one on my home website

#

👍

#

But 7700k + 1080ti is very old

#

1080ti is still better than a 2060 right?

#

Yep but the CPU is too old, you can't really upgrade anything in it

#

The 2060 one is brand new never used

#

It's good, but it's good as is and will be good as it is

#

Then you have to change it in a year or two

#

What about the Ryzen 3600 and rtx 2060

#

that's not too bad but why not get a better one from Amazon?

#

Can't really find anything

#

Budget is 800-900 euros

#

1k dollars

#

The 1080TI is great actually if it's not broken in any way

#

If you have some money for repairs later saved somewhere you should get that one

brave field
#

Ask for part out, if possible

#

"Hello sir, how much for GPU alone?" + generic 10400F rest of the PC

jovial tide
#

On which one

#

Can't ask for it alone

#

Only full pc

#

So which one should I get out of those 2

#

I'm thinking the Ryzen 3600 rtx 2060

cold elbow
#

5600G

jovial tide
#

5600G + a good ram + that 1080 is perfect
It would be perfect if you could just buy monitor + graphics card
That computer will run without these with no problems whatsoever and he can sell that to a business or something
7700k has integrated graphics inside

#

It has 16gb of ram

#

Is that bad orr

#

1080 or the other one? I think 1080TI is good, just pay for repairs a little when it comes the time.

#

1080

#

Wdym repairs

brave field
#

man, it really isn't all that myguy

jovial tide
#

Repairs, changing resistors and capacitors and etc when it comes the time

#

When's the time like 2-3 years

vapid grove
#

Are we back on unrealistic expectations of GPU service life again

jovial tide
#

Pepega bots @brave field

#

My intel dot russ link is deleted

brave field
#

censored TLD

jovial tide
brave field
#

anyways 1080ti is likely fine, and will not need repair for a while

jovial tide
#

Say something dot R and U

fervent granite
#

If a drive returns these errors it’s totally dead right?

jovial tide
#

lol

arctic yarrow
#

I'd take it to an outdoor range tbh.

kindred temple
#

Its dead, definitely.

arctic yarrow
#

Perfect target practice at an outdoor shooting range.

#

What I do with my dead parts.

fervent granite
#

I thought so, it's one of my buddy's drives and he keeps trying to figure out a way to save it

arctic yarrow
#

I'd tell him this:

latent drum
#

AMD prices have been fucked up lately

#

Intel 1X400F lineup is really crushing

jovial tide
#

11600KF + Z590 or I walk

latent drum
#

iam talking budget sir

#

and fuck 11th gen

kindred temple
#

The reason Intel is even winning is because of GPU shortage honestly

leaden egret
#

@steep raptor when u coming ?

latent drum
kindred temple
#

You got igpu you can use as video output till you get a new GPU ThonkHappy

kindred temple
latent drum
#

10400f is really cheap

#

I dont think you wanma go under 100$ with any brand

#

Mobo

#

Other than if you running like athlon or something

#

Oh yes
It comes with it own cooler too
how tables have turned

#

Ryzen 5 costing 200$+ is like a win for intel
All their I5 XX400F are under 180$

tawny zenith
#

104005 is like 150 ish

latent drum
#

They have 12gen coming and i dont think the MSRP wont change

#

AMD 1st gen of gaining performance advantage was like greed mode full

#

Reminder than the 5.2Ghz 10 core I9 10850K costs 350$

#

Thats 50$ above the 5600X

cold elbow
#

Cus u need an expensive board and cooler to achieve the 5.2ghz
And once again ghz is not a scale for performance.
Also prices are different from a place to another.

iron lantern
#

extra 250 bucks for extra performance DarkKermit

kindred temple
#

200$ for a peltier cooler

iron lantern
#

who uses stock cooler if ur running an amd build

kindred temple
#

Because even a D15 gonna melt when you OC that far

iron lantern
#

pathetic EZ

zealous pasture
iron lantern
#

weak

kindred temple
iron lantern
#

ik

#

im just rubbing in better performance

cold elbow
#

I used stock cooler for a long time

#

Besides any cheap 30$ can handle it good

#

Meanwhile intel catshake

kindred temple
#

Why cheap 30$ cooler when you can undervolt it and keep that 30$

#

You can spend it on 3 copies of Gris on sale OkayChamp

#

Or Pcars 2

cold elbow
#

With the 30$ u can max you PBO settings basically an overclock

#

I had a ryzen 1600 and overclocked it to 4ghz with a stock cooler satania_eh

kindred temple
#

PBO overclock is possible stock with undervolts

#

And if youre on 3000 and 5000 series

#

Youll hit it low quite easily

jovial tide
#

I saw a guy on reddit, he ate thermal paste

#

Preety sure he won't be suffering from high temperature in future

urban tree
#

I have a big problem! I was watching anime dao at an anime and I know that there you have to somehow select from which source you are looking

#

by episode 6 it didn't work very well so I changed the source

#

and gave me a site that at first told me that I had the device infected by a virus and finally told me to leave that site at my own risk

#

then I stopped the applications I had open and when I went back on chorme me but on the same site only it was a white page with google with a countdown

#

a red countdown

#

although up there at the web address the site wrote the name of that site so I don't think it was google

#

then I deleted all the history and cookies

#

and when I went to BitDefender or gave a scan at the end it told me it couldn't be done because I didn't have internet (but I did)

#

after restarting the tablet and when I started scanning again he scanned and said that everything is fine

#

and I didn't download anything from that site and I didn't give it any permission

#

daor I pressed and put me there and he showed me that

#

can anyone help me explain this better?

kindred temple
#

Yeah, one of those stupid scareware.

#

Clear up your cookies and remember to stop fucking pirating anime.

zealous pasture
urban tree
#

Pirating*

urban tree
kindred temple
#

yes it is a scare ads

#

just, ignore it.

#

Jesus

#

youre overreacting.

#

And i mean, stop illegally fucking streaming anime.

urban tree
#

Ok mate

#

Thanks

cold elbow
zealous pasture
#

poggers

urban tree
cold elbow
#

Im asking you

urban tree
#

but then where I can see the anime legally

cold elbow
#

???

urban tree
zealous pasture
#

uh

jovial tide
#

Stop pirating hentai

zealous pasture
#

i died

#

can you reframe your sentences

urban tree
#

Okok

kindred temple
#

From how you speak the only animated show you should watch is fucking Caillou.

urban tree
#

Man, understand I'm a little scared and it's normal not to hit all the words

cold elbow
#

Do u have an adblocker?

urban tree
#

Nope

zealous pasture
#

i mean you probably should have one

cold elbow
#

Get one then

urban tree
#

Playstore?

cold elbow
#

It probably protects better than your antivirus

zealous pasture
cold elbow
#

Playstore PeepoWeird

pliant lynx
#

is available everywhere

#

pc/playstore

#

:]]

zealous pasture
#

wait on playstore

#

since when

urban tree
#

Ok I deleted cookeys and my normal hystory

#

Man the shop from androids

zealous pasture
#

as if thats going to matter LUL

zealous pasture
#

what

#

why do you want a pin

urban tree
#

I can understand more easily

#

which of the above sentences you referred to

zealous pasture
#

but what does a pin have to do with your history

urban tree
#

ahhh man ....

#

leave nothing

#

srr

zealous pasture
#

i dont mind

urban tree
#

thanks for the help guys

kindred temple
#

Will cutting my brain in half reduce my cringe reaction to anything

#

oh shit

#

this isnt google search bar

zealous pasture
#

PeepoWeird claire go see a doc

urban tree
#

what do you mean

urban tree
kindred temple
#

nothing, nothing.

urban tree
#

Okok

#

I love you guys, maybe I'll take you to a kfc today

zealous pasture
#

claire youre lucky enough for free chicken wings

urban tree
tame current
#

Uh, is there a windows 12 already?

jovial tide
#

The new Win11 is so nice dude

urban tree
#

One more thing

#

How did he know what name I put to the device?

#

Related to the discussion earlier

kindred temple
#

Those things are sent to the internet too

#

as a mean to track your browsing behavior, are you more mobile or on desktop?

lost fossil
kindred temple
#

Fuck sake crunchyroll sub is like 8$ a month peepoMad

supple walrus
#

Or just. Don't watch anime

kindred temple
#

Us F1 fans pay fuckin 15$ a month just to watch a fuckin race.

supple walrus
#

K I sleep now. Gn Claire

kindred temple
#

gn alpha

kindred temple
#

I mean it as an example

#

Not asking you

#

Ffs

urban tree
#

:))

urban tree
kindred temple
civic cloud
#

@kindred temple @supple walrus why are you boats

lost fossil
#

because that's their thing hmmmcoffee

zealous pasture
plucky raft
#

Hello my computer current have 2+4GB ram
It comes with 4 slots so can I add an extra 4GB to make it 10GB ram?

lost fossil
#

2+4 is not that good

#

would be better to buy a 4 to replace the 2

#

would be 2gb less but they'd be able to run in dual channel which is faster

jovial tide
#

If you ever wonder what programming language should you use for competitive programming, prefer any language but not Python

#

Python is worst imo

arctic yarrow
#

Depends on what you're doing. Python is great for learning the fundamentals, but lackluster with performance.

jovial tide
#

Exactly

flint lichen
#

Could someone help me with something that’s happening with my Xbox?

jovial tide
#

Nowadays performance is major concern