tech-coding-math

[jovial tide]

me confused

oh

its discrete i think

NOO

I GOT IT WRONG AGAIN

this one is even moar confusing

if i get it wrong i fail the hw

ok i got it

but i got 80% on hw 😭

[light totem]

7th grade math

[jovial tide]

no

its algebra 1

[light totem]

Aint no way

[jovial tide]

yeah bruh @light totem

alg 1

there are some 7th graders in my class tho

[light totem]

Oh
Then it might be an intro to quadratic equations then

[jovial tide]

i honestly have no idea

maybe algebra 1 is just easier now

my teacher was talking about functions and whatnot

ohh

i think i know whats going on

maybe shes catching the 7th graders up to 8th grade

cause i already learned this stuff

yeah that makes sense

[zinc remnant]

What should I add or change?

Bruh

[formal aspen]

So can I ask about my math hw here

[kindred temple]

Dm me the pcpp link if its about PC builds.

Ill post it here for you. Freaking level restrictions.

[kindred temple]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Gdhdhsjdhdmxj/saved/#view=ZQ6GP6 target res 1440p im gonna guess? @zinc remnant

[zinc remnant]

Ya

[kindred temple]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TxhPRT

[jovial tide]

God this build's so good

Holy mother of god this build is so good 😮

[arctic yarrow]

R8 my current PC:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bJFfNP

[jovial tide]

But good luck finding that 3080 at MSRP, that 1700$ build will cost you at least 700$ more

[jovial tide]

you have exactly that?

[arctic yarrow]

Yes

The sandisk is connected to an m.2 to sata adapter.

[kindred temple]

Not enough storage

[jovial tide]

CPU was great at the time, but now it's not the best. cooler + ram + board are great (even overkill for ram), storage no comment, graphics card 2070 super good but not great (I would have never bought first gen RTX cards), power supply great, case outdated design nobody uses disc drives anymore.

[arctic yarrow]

I still use a disk drive 😛

[jovial tide]

[kindred temple]

No joke

[jovial tide]

he has like 8TB storage

[kindred temple]

I wouldnt go and get an upgrade for the CPU, i would consolidate the storage.

[jovial tide]

At that point just get a NAS

[arctic yarrow]

I mainly use it for watching movies and playing older games I still have on a CD or DVD.

[kindred temple]

Thats straight up just janktacular.

[arctic yarrow]

At least I never need to uninstall any of my games 😛

Yeah, the storage is a bit much TBF. I'd probably pull all but one drive if I sell this PC to build another one.

[jovial tide]

Idk man having 8TB of games feels like hoarding junk

[kindred temple]

You never modded Arma 3 or Asetto corsa then, arash

[jovial tide]

You can build a computer selling those drives

[arctic yarrow]

9tb

[kindred temple]

[arctic yarrow]

I have 3 1tb ssds and a 6tb hdd

[jovial tide]

holy crap

[brave field]

where are you getting this storage

[arctic yarrow]

the ssds have the games on them, the hdd has plex backups, nvidia shadowplay dumps, and a shitton of isos.

[kindred temple]

@jovial tide

[jovial tide]

idk how people have this much crap Claire

[kindred temple]

300GB of mods for a game i only play like 3h a week

[jovial tide]

and how these stupid game makers don't optimize their games

that's insaneeee

[brave field]

Brand new drives? Used datacenter drives?

how

[jovial tide]

there used to be a time when people would get fired from game making if they used more than expected resources.

[brave field]

I'm getting to the point where I'm considering buying a server just to have a SAS controller so I can scoop up those stupid cheap $20 6TB drives on ebay

[jovial tide]

and now, oh yeah, let's use 400GB... it's just stupid man

[arctic yarrow]

I bought two of the SSDs when initially building the PC. Got a third one by ripping open an ESSD from costo purchased from a gift card I obtained from work for xmas, and the 6tb drive I got from one of my friends who salvaged old datacenter servers. got that one for $50

[brave field]

Whole server hardware is cheaper than a SATA drive, where are you getting the deals

o, good friends!

[jovial tide]

Good idea, make an internal SAN

[kindred temple]

Used drives 🤮

[brave field]

Usually I would agree

But they're replacing 80-320gb drives that still have IDE connectors on them

And hard drive prices stopped falling, and I can't work anymore

[kindred temple]

20$ drives are cool but not having to risk my GPA from scratched platter is cooler.

[quartz kayak]

The thing is... U cant forget im dum so i forgot that graphics cards wasnt an option rn

Im sorry

[jovial tide]

It's fine

[kindred temple]

sora faceplant was and is the best hololive clips to ever exists

[pure ridge]

Banned Máté#5025 (Case #120404) (user notified with a direct message)

[dense lodge]

em

i hope u guys are good with math

cus i am stupid

so

dm me if u wanna help me

for a pic 😏

[cold elbow]

cringe

[sour marsh]

yes or no
sale for $300 for 2TB

@cold elbow

[civic cloud]

300 for 2TB?!

Is that Gen 4

[cold elbow]

how is that a sale

it's a gen 4

if you need an SSD that's a very good one

even for a PS5

[brave field]

$450 MSRP
There are very few workloads that would benefit from this though

[cold elbow]

u see the ps5 requires like 5500MB/s NVMe ssds

this one is 7000

with a good price imo

so it should set you up for the future

[brave field]

Makes sense for ps5 if its solely for that, yeah
I think I'd check local 980 Pro prices before pulling the trigger, SN850 at $300 is very close to 2TB 980 Pro MSRP

[cold elbow]

massive speed drop

wait

[brave field]

They both target 7000MB/s

[cold elbow]

that's the regular

[brave field]

write speeds, maybe?

[cold elbow]

my bad

and yeah the WD has slightly better write

[brave field]

potentially 300MB/s more for write on the SN850

hm

[cold elbow]

i guess it depends on what he can find cheaper

[sour marsh]

lemme look up 980 then

one sec

[cold elbow]

@sour marsh https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B27_j9NDPU3cNlj2HKcrfpJKHkOf-Oi1DbuuQva2gT4/edit#gid=0

[sour marsh]

@brave field $500 for the Samsung Evo Pro

[brave field]

Not worth if that's the 980 Pro

SN850 for $300 is better value, unless its being used in a PC

[sour marsh]

I guess based on the chart, Crucial P5 Plus offers 6600MB/s

and also $367

[brave field]

more expensive and potentially slower, nah

[sour marsh]

also I need to wait days for shipping

with shipping cost

the thing is that Norwegian shops for me are free shipping

[jovial tide]

Help

[fervent granite]

I don't see apple ssd's

[iron lantern]

eh... WD... dont like them

[fervent granite]

I thought wd drives were common

[iron lantern]

they arent trustyworthy

especially their SSDs

[fervent granite]

Untrustworthy like unreliable?

[iron lantern]

They swap their components without ever making public announcements

so they market their SSDs at such and such rating but in reality are way below

[fervent granite]

Good thing I have a seagate drive

[iron lantern]

seagate ssd? or hdd?

[fervent granite]

hdd

It's an external desktop drive for my laptop I use for time machine/data

[brave field]

swapping components without announcing is the standard though

Crucial, Samsung, ADATA, who doesn't?

Just Sabrent and SiliconPower, no?

[iron lantern]

should i get a 870 evo or a 870 qvo

[brave field]

evo, depending on the price compared to its largest comptitors

QVO combines Samsung prices with QLC suckiness

[iron lantern]

yikes, evo is beyond my budget unfortunately

guess i getting two 870 evo 1tb

what about crucial mx500

[brave field]

L5 Lite 3D, MX500 (beware the firmware bug), SPA55

The MX500 firmware bug causes higher writes than expected and tools like CrystalDiskInfo or GSmartControl often report crazy drops in drive health, like 95% health after 6 months of use

[iron lantern]

yikes

so about m.2 ssds

which samsung m.2 should i get

the 980 pro, 980, 970 evo plus?

wait

980 isnt gen 4

[brave field]

970 plus is gen3 also

[iron lantern]

im generally looking for a m.2 ssd

just a good write speed for a good price

is the corsair mp600 a good choice?

[brave field]

Silicon Power A60, A80, Sabrent Rocket, etc

which mp600?

[iron lantern]

just the mp600

[brave field]

Pro, core, force, they have a few

[iron lantern]

force

isnt samsung expensive

for a gen 4

[brave field]

Samsung everything is overpriced, but the 980 Pro's price isn't as bad as their other SSDs, compared to the main alternatives

[cold elbow]

500$

[brave field]

$100 less than double the price, so its a small, but existent improvement over the 860 when it was new

[iron lantern]

idk, corsair mp600 force is tempting

gen 4 for godspeed r/w

and decently priced

[brave field]

5k read and write, it looks nice

[iron lantern]

kinda good for what this build came out to be: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BnTB2V

[iron lantern]

its just the cherry on the shit hole

[brave field]

how much faster do you think random read speeds will get in the next few years?

[iron lantern]

affordable? barely unless Ubisoft or activision breaks the record with a 200 gb game

[fervent granite]

If only we could get ram speeds

[brave field]

still salty about hardware ramdrives being dead

[fervent granite]

Wait they aren’t a thing anymore?

[brave field]

nop

So much DDR/2 is sitting in landfills right now

[fervent granite]

Usb ram wen

[brave field]

it would be so nice

we can get something like 2GB/s out of one single PCIe lane now

just hooking up some DDR2 and a battery to a thunderbolt/USB-C connector could make for some bulky, but fast storage on the cheap

[fervent granite]

Would need to be mindful of that battery though

[brave field]

As long as you had something that could compress files super well and super quickly, and the battery was rechargeable and had an indicator for charge (maybe an 18650?), you could stuff a bucketload of things on it and have very fast transfers

or live USB environments where you don't load to load the whole OS into ram

NVMe drive speeds, sub-NVMe drive latency, low capacity, but super, super low price

[fervent granite]

I’d probably only keep the os on such a drive, wouldn’t want important files being thanos snapped should the battery die

If they could make one with a betavoltaic battery THEN I’d be sold

[brave field]

could throw some cheap, slow 16gb of SD card NAND on the board for a persistence partition

nuclear battery

[fervent granite]

Would last you pretty long

[brave field]

I suppose the market of people who want to move 32-64gb of files in under 5 seconds is pretty small
tiny capacity and fast speed, seems more people want it the other way around

[fervent granite]

That should be the future though imo

We already have really fast, relatively mainstream ssd’s so that should be the next step

[arctic yarrow]

Is.. that a DDR2 pci-e card with a battery?

[iron lantern]

are u a mod?

[brave field]

This one uses plain DDR, but yeah

[arctic yarrow]

No, I put that up to stop people DMing me for moderator shit.

[jovial tide]

Is this better than the pc we found @jovial tide ?

no

Ah okay, thanks

[tame current]

What's the difference between 3200mhz and 3600mhz in RAM cards?

[jovial tide]

For intel CPUs not much, for AMD up to 10% performance difference
Ram timings also matter, usually people buy dual channel 3200 or 3600MHz C16

[tame current]

Oh

For intel cpu, I'll be fine with just 3200 mhz?

Or should I still go with 3600mhz?

[jovial tide]

which one you wanna buy?

[tame current]

I'm still looking for 3600mhz and I have intel cpu

[jovial tide]

what are your specs? and how much ram?

[tame current]

32gb ram and I'm still at the assembly page

But the CPU will be i9-10850k and GPU will be RTX 3070Ti

[jovial tide]

this one is perfect if you can find one -> https://www.gskill.com/product/165/184/1536116295/F4-3200C16D-16GVS

[tame current]

I'm buying 2x16 though

Oh, nice

[jovial tide]

second

[tame current]

I found those in an online shop, cheaper than many retailers sell their ram cards too

[jovial tide]

Go with the rightmost one

all of these are fine. lower the C the better

C14 is best -- last one is also close to C14

[tame current]

This is what I found though

GSKILL RIPJAWS V F4-3600C18D-32GVK 32GB (2x16GB) 3600MHz DDR4 RAM(Sorry for the caps, I just copy pasted what's in the shop)

[jovial tide]

Ripjaws ver 5 f4

CL18, I would say top one is better

Send me a PC Partpicker link I'll edit for you

[tame current]

PC Partpicker link?

[jovial tide]

Your shop's link or pcpartpicker.com link for the whole build

Are you in US/UK/Canada?

[tame current]

No I'm not

And this is the one available in the online shop I found

https://www.gskill.com/product/165/184/1562833535/F4-3600C18D-32GVK

[jovial tide]

what else do you have available there? this I dont like

[tame current]

Why?

[jovial tide]

timings too high

you can also give me the link of the shop so I can find something for you there

[tame current]

What do you mean?

https://shopee.ph/shop/89762129/search?page=0&shopCollection=101525575

[jovial tide]

this is ok -> https://shopee.ph/G.SKILL-Trident-Z-Neo-(For-AMD-Ryzen)-Series-32GB-(2-x-16GB)-288-Pin-RGB-DDR4-SDRAM-DDR4-3200-(PC4-2-i.89762129.6840213163?position=2

but it's made for AMD (better buy AMD 5600x or 5800x wiith it)

[tame current]

Oh

Those are lower than AMD RX6800, right?

[jovial tide]

this is ok https://shopee.ph/GSKILL-RIPJAWS-V-F4-3200C16D-32GVK-32GB(2x16GB)-3200MHz-DDR4-RAM-i.89762129.7978081105?position=4

amd 5600x and 5800x = cpu

6800 = graphics card

this is also ok https://shopee.ph/Kingston-Fury-Beast-RGB-32GB-(2x16GB)-3200MHz-DDR4-CL16-Desktop-Memory-Kit-(KF432C16BB1AK2-32)-i.89762129.3752684341?position=9

[tame current]

The problem is PC shops recommend RTX 3070 over RX 6800 in flight sim

Because RX 6800 heats up more

[jovial tide]

so you're in PH right?

[tame current]

Sadly, yes

And this is the one you don't like
https://shopee.ph/GSKILL-RIPJAWS-V-F4-3600C18D-32GVK-32GB-(2x16GB)-3600MHz-DDR4-RAM-i.89762129.5078105322

[jovial tide]

Why sadly? some of the best esports teams in the world are in there

[jovial tide]

that's ok, acceptable

[tame current]

It's in discount though

[jovial tide]

but it it's good

it's usually more than 9500

[tame current]

Yeah, this must be luck

[jovial tide]

go here -> https://ph.pcpartpicker.com/list/HDQY3Z

click on edit this list, build then share the link again so other people comment on it

I personally prefer AMD build with that Trident Z ram made for AMD

[tame current]

Nice, thanks

And is it just me or RGB parts are just for cosmetics?

[jovial tide]

They are just for cosmetics. but rams are different.

That's why I put MSI B550-A Pro in that build 👆

[cold elbow]

Duhh

[jovial tide]

Hello Ms. Melon

[pliant lynx]

not stolen

[cold elbow]

Good morning

[jovial tide]

I don't like cellphones. I personally don't use more than 5% of my cellphone functions.

[tame current]

It's just that when I let PC shops pick parts for me besides CPU and GPU, they put some RGB parts like RGB motherboards

[jovial tide]

waste of money paying extra for it, but meh people do that in the west.

[jovial tide]

whats the best pc parts shop online?

[tame current]

Those who I consulted with are not online shops

[cold elbow]

I think at this point all motherboards comes with rgb headers

[jovial tide]

Buy parts 1 by 1 - - @cold elbow B550-a pro

Those damn desktop salesmen are corrupt

All of that said buy that last ram 100% asap

says latency •Tested Latency: 16-18-18-38 in the description but is a C18 ram :/

[tame current]

I will

[jovial tide]

dont buy it it's crap

[tame current]

Oh good

Good thing I didn't buy it yet

The last shop I consulted with put a tforce delta rgb 3200mhz 2x16gb in the price quotation

Which is more expensive than the once I've seen

[jovial tide]

https://shopee.ph/G.SKILL-Trident-Z-Neo-(For-AMD-Ryzen)-Series-32GB-(2-x-16GB)-288-Pin-RGB-DDR4-SDRAM-DDR4-3200-(PC4-2-i.89762129.6840213163?position=4

this + a 5600x CPU

buy these first, then look for MSI B550-A Pro

[cold elbow]

32gb

[jovial tide]

Horrible shop website. writes c16 description, but has c18 in the title

[tame current]

Oh, you're right

And looks like many PC shops are corrupted

[jovial tide]

That's why you wanna buy slowly, and one by one, so they don't push their shit to you.

[tame current]

What do you think about the tforce delta rgb 3200mhz 2x16gb?

[jovial tide]

That being said I'll stand by my cpu: amd 5600x motherboard: msi b550-a pro ram: trident z neo (for amd) 3600MHz C16 suggestion

3200MHz C16 is still fine but you have to be careful so they give you the C16 and not C18

[tame current]

Alright

[jovial tide]

this? https://shopee.ph/TEAMGROUP-T-Force-DELTA-TUF-Gaming-Alliance-RGB-DDR4-32GB-(16GBx2)-3200MHz-Desktop-Memory-RAMR-i.89762129.3440503417?position=3

[tame current]

I think so, I'm unfamiliar with that

[jovial tide]

acceptable (it's tforce delta 3200mhz)

[tame current]

Oh

This one's cheaper than that shop which gave me the recommendation

We were taught that when buying PC parts, we should always negotiate for lower price as much as we can

Like for example, if we're gonna buy an RX 6800, we must negotiate if we can get it at lower price

[jovial tide]

that's not a bad idea, but the thing is you negotiate and they sell you a crappy brand instead of real deal.

it's still 6800xt but not the same 🙂

so it's better to go and buy parts slowly, one by one so they can't scam you.

[tame current]

I mean, if it's same brand

[jovial tide]

there are still different types of cards under same brand

[tame current]

Oooh

[jovial tide]

Like for AMD graphics cards best brand is Sapphire

[tame current]

And for Nvidia?

[jovial tide]

EVGA in my opinion

[tame current]

Oh

The problem with PC shops here is if we don't negotiate, they'll jack the prices up

[jovial tide]

I know, you should find the lowest prices online then negotiate to get less.

[tame current]

And of course, GPU remains the biggest obstacle

[jovial tide]

I'm sure you can find one

Sapphire nitro+ 6800xt or 6800 are good

Or MSI/Asus/EVGA 3070 or 3070ti

[tame current]

I found some but the price is excessive

The lowest one I found for 3070Ti is said to be preorder

I'm cautious because they might close down after I pay for preorder

The brand for that 3070ti is Gigabyte

[jovial tide]

have you checked nvidia website?

https://shop.nvidia.com/

[tame current]

Oh, these are really low prices

[jovial tide]

this one is also good https://pcx.com.ph/shop/powercolor-red-devil-amd-radeon-rx-6700xt-12gb-gddr6-axrx-6700xt-12gbd6-3dhe-oc/

yeah you can check those and see if any shops in your country have them

[tame current]

https://shop.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/store/?page=1&limit=9&locale=en-us

[jovial tide]

that's en-us

[tame current]

Sad...

[jovial tide]

you have to pay for shipping from US to PH

[tame current]

Ph still have jacked up prices

[jovial tide]

this last 6700xt is ok I think, powercolor is like sapphire

[tame current]

Oh, I forgot

What are the advantages of these limited editions of GPUs such as RTX 3070 Gundam Edition?

Someone said that these "limited editions" or "special editions" are scams just to make people pay high prices and if we really want to spend money on GPUs, we're better off buying the next higher level GPU than special edition GPUs

[cold elbow]

Just marketing gimmicks

[tame current]

Same performance at a lot higher prices

[civic cloud]

Yeah it's marketing

[jovial tide]

Ofc it is

[tame current]

If I'm left with RTX 3070 special edition and RTX 3080, I'll just go with the 3080 because it'll only be a little more expensive than the 3070 special edition while having more to offer

[tame current]

Oh wait, ddr5 ram is already out

[cold elbow]

Companies flipped all kinds of special/limited editions during this shortage to make more profit

[tame current]

The problem is no current CPU are made to support it

[cold elbow]

They would rather make them than regular gpus with msrp

[tame current]

Clever...

[hollow rover]

Could someone tell me what FivePD actually is?

And do I need it to host a FiveM

[silent mason]

yep, make a limited edition RTX 3090... 50 made worldwide... $750'000'000 per GPU. And all 50 would sell.

[lost fossil]

https://habr.com/ru/post/569780/

[civic cloud]

@lost fossil many pish

[silent mason]

ROFL

Zeppelin you slowpoke

[civic cloud]

Very

[kindred temple]

@silent mason ya talked a lot about thrustmaster, can i ask you about it?

[civic cloud]

He sure knows a lot about

thrusting

;)

[silent mason]

What's the issue? I'll answer when I can.

[kindred temple]

Im thinking of upgrading later to T-LCM on a set of G29, but is there a way to tell those RJ-12 to USB adapter to fuck off? Because im not spending 40$ on a fucking dongle.

And the pricing wouldnt make sense because i can get T300RS and T-LCM for the same price of this upgrade later price.

[silent mason]

With thrustmaster I only know about the flight stuff.

[kindred temple]

I heard that thrustmaster uses the same RJ-12 to USB on flight controls too.

[silent mason]

I use Fanatec for driving stuff.

Ah yeah, I'm not sure though about your query though. Sorry:(

[kindred temple]

:(

I just want a cheap way to adapt it

Even if it means soldering stuff up.

[tame current]

Ddr5 is already out and over 1 year old. Are you guys gonna buy it if you're gonna build new PC or still ddr4?

The problem is current Ryzen and Intel CPUs still stick with ddr4

[jovial tide]

who cares? unless you are part of pc master race trying to get highest performance on earth; who really cares?

"oh look I have a 240Hz monitor with 260 average fps, that's not enough let's make it 300-350"

unless you're heavily using it to compute. who really cares?

[arctic yarrow]

When do y'all think ATX12VO will become standardized?

[iron lantern]

I doubt we will see ddr5 being widely available until roughly 2025+ even 2027

AMD and Intel are too busy fighting each other for the best performance for the market to worry about moving to ddr5

[arctic yarrow]

Yeah, considering DDR4 was manufactured about 4 years before it was adopted.

[tame current]

Good point...

Well, I haven't seen issues with ddr5 but it could happen anytime

Since approximately 1 year and 2 months are still new

[iron lantern]

plus the average household and games havent reached a point where ddr5 poses significant benefits over ddr4

[kindred temple]

6000 series and 12th gen rumored to have DDR5 on release

Even 12th gen Intel was considered for 12VO conversion before basically every AIB flips a bird to intel for that idea.

[iron lantern]

i doubt it

If they have ddr5 support, their prices might easily go beyond 600 bucks

[kindred temple]

Welllllll

DDR4 was 120$ for 2*4 set

Economics of scale will prevail.

[iron lantern]

and reality is, the current gen saw so much improvements since the last in both terms of CPUs and GPUs that creating an entire new line of products especially during a world wide shortage of resources is extremely inconsiderate

even if this new gen gets ddr5 support, most people wouldn't spend the extra money

[tame current]

They want to earn money so they would be inconsiderate as they want to be

[iron lantern]

the market drives the economy

if people dont want to spend extra for ddr5, nobody will buy the new gen

even if the performance is so much better

[arctic yarrow]

Not really. As far as resources are concerned, it takes about the same amount of material as previous generation products, and don't forget they were working on new fab methods throughout the past few years.

[iron lantern]

until games start actually utilizing these high end gpus and cpus to its limits at 1080p or 2k, nobody has a need for ddr5 products

[arctic yarrow]

True, but hardware is usually manufactured before there is any need for its utilization, and developers take note of what resources are available at present time to create their software.

[iron lantern]

AMD has just revived its reputation as a reliable company for pc components, if they follow intel, they just lost the game

[kindred temple]

Meanwhile most CPU experts agree that DDR4 standard is bottlenecking the bigass cache that CPU nowadays ship with

[tame current]

What attracted me for ddr5 is they say that ddr5 will be faster while having less electric consumption

[arctic yarrow]

The reason Intel obtained their reputation is due to them rehashing the same fab method over and over again because AMD did not offer any meaningful competition until Ryzen released.

[kindred temple]

Also, reliable?

This mf didnt see 1000&2000 series release?

[arctic yarrow]

Ryzen 1000 and 2000 series had some pretty serious flaws. It wasn't until ryzen 3000 series released that most of those flaws were worked out.

[kindred temple]

GloFo 14nm is hot unreliable garbage, the only shit that saved it from FX level failure was because of Intel taking a deep nap in innovation

[iron lantern]

thats the point, the 5000 series greatly saw a change in monopoly of Intel cpus

[arctic yarrow]

Intel is grasping at straws right now trying to make 14nm+++++++∞ relevant until they figure out how to innovate again.

[tame current]

I guess current gen CPUs like Intel 10th and 11th gen and Ryzen 3000 and 5000 series will still be relevant for a long time.

[kindred temple]

12th already slated for 10nm i believe, 14nm meme is ded

[tame current]

Unless I'm wrong, maybe it's too early to say that these CPUs will be obsolete soon.

[arctic yarrow]

Good, it's about time both chipmakers compete against each other in a meaningful way.

Hopefully AMD hasn't become too comfortable being top dog.

[jovial tide]

@tame current that's not true at all

[tame current]

I like AMD Ryzen CPU but for GPU, I'm still doubtful.

[jovial tide]

These days a CPU will last you 3-5 years, back in the day (first gens of core i series and before) every 1-2 years computers changed drastically

[kindred temple]

Google "5600x MSRP"

They already are.

[iron lantern]

nvidia will hold onto the gpu crown for a while

[arctic yarrow]

Yes, they're comfortable with raising prices, but I'm hoping they're not too comfortable to continue to innovate.

[jovial tide]

I'm pretty sure you can use a 5600x+ a good motherboard for about 5 years (with good care)

[iron lantern]

if we are to spend extra money for extra innovation, im fine

[kindred temple]

I think that isnt over, because Zen 3 and Zen 4 gonna receive 5 and 3nm respectively

It was in one of AMD press release.

[jovial tide]

how stable? that's the question.

[iron lantern]

if intel wish to do the same, i respect that and if they give better performance, i might switch to intel

[jovial tide]

chips become less and less stable when transistors come closer

[kindred temple]

Seeing AMD and TSMC trajectory? Very.

[arctic yarrow]

I'm curious what will happen once both AMD and Intel hits the quantum limit.

[iron lantern]

but as current benchmarks stand, AMD prices grow along side its performance

[kindred temple]

Betting war on D-Wave?

[jovial tide]

they will start to push features

same thing nvidia did; oh we're at the top of the curve? raytracing

[arctic yarrow]

TBF, raytracing is a massively good feature.

[kindred temple]

Nvidia isnt even on TSMC cutting edge line though, isnt it still 12nm?

Oh, 7.

Nvm

[iron lantern]

raytracing is like...

[kindred temple]

Fuck raytracing, gimme DLSS

[iron lantern]

making games look like mirrors

[kindred temple]

Actual innovation there

[arctic yarrow]

Geforce 30 series uses Samsung 8nm process.

[jovial tide]

Intel's gonna have some weird features soon mark my words

This CPU will tickle your motherboard, they will say

[kindred temple]

I mean, is timed boost when your competitor is already thermal based a weird feature?

Asking for a friend.

[arctic yarrow]

It's not just that, but realistic reflections. For instance, a buffed marble floor looks like it would in real life, bouncing light off but not exactly reflecting features.

Basically an opaque reflection.

I'm interested in knowing if ARM processors will start being supported by game devs.

[civic cloud]

@kindred temple https://www.logitechg.com/de-de/products/gaming-keyboards/pro-x-keyboard-accessory-kit.html do you know if there's a chance to buy a single switch? I only need to replace one uwu

[kindred temple]

No dice, you gonna need a whole kit.

Logi GX are like several mm wider than MX.

And AFAIK theres no small count switch sellers for them.

[arctic yarrow]

Generally, for small components like this, you generally can only buy in bulk. For instance, I only needed 3 75ohm resistors to convert a VGA to DVI adapter into a dummy plug, but I had to buy 200 of them for $3.

[civic cloud]

Okay 🥺

Thanks :(

Other question

Any chance I can fix my space bar

Which keeps hitting twice

Even tho I only press it once

It uses those switches ^

[vocal pebble]

!patreon

[silent mason]

Noctua fitted... PBO enabled... now to run this PC like a beast

[silent mason]

ok, so I have 4 monitors, and a VR headset. Is there any way to go between 4 monitors and VR (even if I have to disable certain things temporarily) without having to unplug and replug the devices, with an RTX 3070. New GPU is not happening.

[iron lantern]

sounds like an overkill pc

[silent mason]

Advanced streaming stuff

[jovial tide]

Be like XQC, be

2 monitors, shitty mic, shitty camera, dirty clothes, MacDonalds, coca cola

[silent mason]

Since I use an ATEM Mini Pro ISO. I've tried plugging the HDMI into the ATEM for one of the monitors, and it'll then daisychain from the 6x2 splitter to the monitor itself fine, but not the ATEM (it is running within ATEM spec)

So yeah, I'm wanting to know how to make this work without changing my hardware. I don't want to be like XQC, etc.

[lost fossil]

back in the day there was this samsung 3x1 or 3x2 monitor wall

you could daisychain them using one dp cable

[silent mason]

Yeah, I'm not sure if I can daisychain though unfortunately 😦

[civic cloud]

Hello fellow Tech people, anyone got decent Laptop recommendations?
700-1000 Euro Budget, for Uni with occasional Photoshop/Premiere/AE Work

I've seen some Acer Laptops here a while ago

[kindred temple]

wat part of europe?

[civic cloud]

Latvia

the kinda bad part of europe

[kindred temple]

hows entry level of ROG Zephyrus Series?

[civic cloud]

Too expensive 🤝

[strong saffron]

Acer Swift series?

[kindred temple]

Mid end Vivobooks/Zenbooks then 🤝

[civic cloud]

https://store.acer.com/de-de/acer-swift-3-ultraschlankes-notebook-sf314-43-silber-nx-ab1ev-002

[lost fossil]

[kindred temple]

Its true though

Also, 530 is plenty decent for any games, honestly

it depends on the CPU pairing in it

[lost fossil]

it's an i3 6100

i borrowed some parts from work and put a working pc together

i also borrowed a gtx 550 ti from work and was looking into whether it's better than uhd530

[cold elbow]

It's

[lost fossil]

i played gta at work for at least 2 years on an i3 4170+1063 so i know that the i3 is capable

[brave field]

use both

assign any video encode/decode to the 530 and any 3D to the 550ti

[kindred temple]

Intel Radeon, 2nd best content creator system combo 🤝

[cold elbow]

Can i run the game on i3 2100 and gt7200?

With 4gb ram

[kindred temple]

Wat game

[cold elbow]

Gta five

[pliant lynx]

4gb ram

u might on 800*600

[fervent granite]

Minecraft struggles on my machine on even that resolution

That’s just Java being a bitch though

[narrow imp]

Yopoo

[kindred temple]

@brave field

[civic cloud]

🤝

[lost fossil]

[brave field]

[arctic yarrow]

Got an (admittedly stupid) question. Can enabling UEFI in the bios fix boot issues with windows 10 on a c2q desktop?

[jovial tide]

What is C2Q?

That question aside, on a modern computer you want to use UEFI + GPT + secure boot; just enabling UEFI won't do much if you have your hard disk set to MBR.

[arctic yarrow]

Core2Quad

[jovial tide]

If the motherboard supports UEFI, you should do a uefi+gpt+ntfs installation if possible.

If the drive is using MBR you will need to format the whole thing and convert it to GPT for this to work + you need a UEFI windows usb drive.

[arctic yarrow]

Yeah, been having an issue with my father's PC lately where it sometimes doesn't recognize the boot drive. It was forcibly upgraded to windows 10 from 7 when M$ was pulling that shit

I went into the bios and found UEFI was not enabled.

[cold elbow]

Why is that an issue

[jovial tide]

yeah do a uefi + gpt reinstall -- also send us a disk management page screenshot

[arctic yarrow]

Unfortunately, only he knows the password and he's at work right now

I'm going to work as well in a bit and won't be back until 10PM MST.

I was wondering if enabling UEFI may fix the issue with it not recognizing the boot drive sometimes.

[hearty stirrup]

Are kingston m.2 bad i just got a basic 240gig one when i bought the pc before it took like 20s from power button to lock screen now its like 30+ even tho i think ive only added 1 program extra to the startup list

[arctic yarrow]

Before I take more... invasive measures.

[iron lantern]

do u know the write/read speeds?

[arctic yarrow]

No, they're usually reliable. How is the drive formatted? I've noticed FAT32 tends to slow down SSDs, so I recommend it's set up as NTFS.

[hearty stirrup]

Dont know if its the right model but according to amazon only 500 and 450 huh thats really low isnt it

[arctic yarrow]

That's about typical for a SATA SSD, which I assume it is.

[hearty stirrup]

Its an m.2

I mean nvme is the right term i think

[arctic yarrow]

There's m.2 SATA and m.2 NVME

[lost fossil]

strelec

[hearty stirrup]

Ah yeah then its sata

[iron lantern]

nvme is usually quad digit read and write

[arctic yarrow]

I could try that if he's not available tomorrow. Right now, I'd like to know if enabling UEFI may solve the boot device recognition error.

[wild lava]

When I formatted my 980 it went stock NTFS, when I tried Fat 32 like you said it was slower. I had a problem a couple months back where my pc would blue screen. I thought it was my m.2, but it turned out it was my ram stick that was corrupted so I trashed it, and it fixed all my problems.

Plus Nvme drives are faster than Sata anyway, I just went with a Nvme vs Sata.

[iron lantern]

https://www.antonline.com/evga/graphicscards/bundles

3080 ARE OUT

they do have an offer for a gtx 1660 for 200~

[jovial tide]

That's good news

[kindred temple]

WHY THE FUCK DO YOU FORMAT SSDS AS FAT32?

[arctic yarrow]

I don't. I've seen SSDs formatted with FAT32 before that ran way slow.

Think OEM units.

I always format with NTFS personally.

Also, the external SSD I purchased from costco before I tore out the m.2 drive and stuck it in my PC was formatted with FAT32.

I changed that shit to NTFS as fast as I could.

[brave field]

Anyone know a way to install macOS but have it install very quickly with as little bloat as possible? I plan to only use it for publishing iOS apps and running Java/Python, the 22gb of other Apple stuff in the install file won't be used at all

[jovial tide]

VM or on a mac machine?

[brave field]

apple hardware, VM or host will do

Running macOS natively or in vm on non-apple hardware is uh, something something "Permitted License Uses"

need something like a "macOS lite," I guess. I plan to reinstall maybe once or twice a week

[jovial tide]

https://hackintosh.com/

that is what it's called :/ @kindred temple

[brave field]

that's uhh

[jovial tide]

modifying the OS in any way puts it into hackintosh category

[brave field]

I considered but it focuses on violating the apple licensing part and the install image size is the same 28gb

o?

[jovial tide]

that's just how it is. have you ever realized they never put any images directly on their website?

pulling it out of recovery (to make an image) by itself is a hack.

[brave field]

agh, they make it really difficult to get around without violating something

Thanks

[jovial tide]

that is completely true. however whether or not using modified OSX on another machine is illegal is up for debate.

I personally don't think it is, since the OS is not a separate product sold by Apple.

[brave field]

EULAs/Terms aren't legally binding by default, yeah

I don't like the thought of being involved in the slightest. Being banned off the app store permanently would suck

[jovial tide]

I don't think that's possible on a modified virtual machine version of OSX. They can't really prove it's even OSX.

Just like Windows 10, MacOS like skins. Unless you sell it for money to masses, then it becomes a problem.

Some interesting videos -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATnpEOo3GJA

Publicly showing hackintosh pc

[brave field]

Yeah but that's Linus

Outside of racism and a felony, he could do anything and have a hundred thousand redditors protesting outside Tim Cook's house in seconds

I just want to not get on a list to be banned from the app store

[jovial tide]

I don't really think Apple cares about that.

Hmmm now that's an interesting point. using apple store on something like that I'm not sure about.

[brave field]

ah

Thanks for the help!

[fervent granite]

I used to have a macos qemu virtual machine a few years ago

It let me passthrough my usb controller so I could use checkrain to jailbreak

[fervent granite]

clickbaity titles smh

[fervent granite]

Also this is because the dmg's are downloaded using the app store, there's also a script you could use that can download them on a windows machine

[arctic yarrow]

What? someone tryina scam again?

[jovial tide]

One of the bots, level 2

They made it harder for bots to become level 5 by changing experience per level requirements

[pliant lynx]

does anyone know if we can change EKU(Extended key usage)

[fervent granite]

Mine

[jovial tide]

Some more retro tech

While streaming I use it for music and background noise but you gotta filter the 16khz tone 😅

[paper condor]

i have a monitor like this in the basement

[jovial tide]

That’s awesome. They’re getting pricey

[silent mason]

Well, I'm studying camera lenses

[vale surge]

guys i know code print(input('hello world))

i know more code

who posted a phishing link

it got deleted

[near umbra]

@trim pumice

[graceful ether]

Which mobo do you recommend that have pcie 4.0 for the gpu and Ryzen 5000 series socket

[iron lantern]

b550a msi

probably the cheapest u can get

an atx with gen 4 slot and not too many budget cuts to keep it cheap

very affordable for a b550 motherboard

just be careful for what u want with it

watch a product review for the small details that msi did to make it cheap

[civic cloud]

@kindred temple finally found the friggn list again https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Lh6rHph31fiuijaZA0cff-9-LpVs9I-0SMm4uYuioCw/edit#gid=666643422

[iron pecan]

Feeling generous? Support us on https://www.patreon.com/discordgamingnetwork and receive awesome rewards!

Requested by: @scenic hamlet

[jovial tide]

B550A Pro is a great choice

[arctic yarrow]

Wanna see an insane motherboard?

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813162015?Item=N82E16813162015

[jovial tide]

Miners board

[arctic yarrow]

Yup

[jovial tide]

They put 5x 3080 or 90 on it

[iron lantern]

board is gonna snap

[civic cloud]

H510 Pro BTC+ lol

Nice name

[jovial tide]

ew

[simple sentinel]

Miners suck

Can I have one of your 100 3090s?

[iron lantern]

u want a used 3090 from a miner?

[brave field]

I do!

[iron lantern]

used 3090
sees price
💀

[vapid grove]

Is anybody here in to 3D printing. I kind of want to get an entry level printer

[kindred temple]

Never 3D printed myself but i understand the scene enough i think

Prusa system is the baseline "good" in a lot of people eyes.

[vapid grove]

I've heard of Prusa before. Gotta check it out. These were the two I was looking at.
https://www.amazon.com/Creality-Printer-Printing-Function-220x220x250mm/dp/B07FFTHMMN
https://www.amazon.com/ANYCUBIC-Mega-S-Extruder-Suspended-Filament/dp/B07J9QGP7S

Really know nothing about them other than non-heated print bed = bad

[jovial tide]

https://pastebin.com/raw/xKZS2eMy bot didn't like my long message so im forced to convert it into pastebin

[vapid grove]

ofc there is a "Prusa Clone" on banggood

[jovial tide]

help naming these items?

they are part of a package I need for my science fair project

but the package is expensive

if I can find them separately it might be cheaper

[brave field]

multimeter on the left, resistors on the top left, breadboard to the right of the multimeter's cables, 9v battery connector/leads under that

LEDs on the far right-bottom

U-shaped jumper cable is to the upper right of the breadboard

N channel mosfet is in the middle of the 3-4 black things
(please correct me if I'm wrong, I'm trash at this)

[jovial tide]

thanks

ill try finding those

[vapid grove]

I miss frys electronics and radio shack

[dusty garnet]

Can someone "Find the sum of each geometric series"

Is it like 765 or something

[jovial tide]

Try wolframalpha

https://www.wolframalpha.com/

[dusty garnet]

ty but the answer was apparently correct

[jovial tide]

3 + 3*2 + 3*4 + 3*8 + 3*16 + 3*32 + 3*64 + 3*128

[dusty garnet]

i hate math

doing ti for a friend

they chekced answer key and said it was 765

[jovial tide]

you can pull 3 out of it and say 3 times (1+2+4+8+16+32+64+128) right?

which is 765

[dusty garnet]

yuh

alr ty

[kindred temple]

Ender V3 needs a few more mods

Heated bed and tip is pretty much a must have if you wanna make structural product

[jagged lark]

On a pre built i’m i unable to add new components?

Seeing a good cheap pc on amazon but got no ssd

[jovial tide]

depends, which one? what's the motherboard?

[jagged lark]

This pc https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B093TC734S/ref=syn_sd_onsite_mobileweb_27?ie=UTF8&adId=20078113389501&qualifier=1632321039&id=5445090294283878&widget=sd_onsite_mobileweb&spPl=1&psc=1

[jovial tide]

let's see

first off I wouldn't buy this, ADMI offers something better and you can build your own with monitor for around 700 pounds

second, the board is A320 which usually support SSD

This one I recommend instead -> https://www.awd-it.co.uk/awd-ryzen-5-5600g-volt-with-amd-vega-graphics-pc-for-gaming.html

and here is the custom build you can do yourself which is far better -> https://www.amazon.co.uk/hz/wishlist/ls/3P5I8E40QK1FC?ref_=wl_share

[jagged lark]

Ooo much better

[lost fossil]

Fierce RGB Gaming PC - AMD Ryzen 5 3400G 4.2GHz, AMD Vega 11 Graphics, 8GB 3000MHz
that's not what fierce means

[jovial tide]

That Amazon list is a gem. I made it after weeks if not months of looking for a good pc for @jovial tide

ADMI is ok too but you have to customize it a bit.

[jagged lark]

@jovial tide that first link I can’t choose an ssd for secondary storage

All just hdd’s

[jovial tide]

let me show you

first link you choose -> **special offer * ram vengeance 2x8 3200MHz
special offer western digital sn550 1tb as primary
secondary seagate barracuda 1-2tb your choice
operating system none
internet security none
wifi Tenda (if you need wifi)

the motherboard doesn't have two places for SSD so the secondary drive is usually hdd

[jagged lark]

Ooh so does primary storage mean an m.2 or ssd and secondary means the one outside your motherboard?

[jovial tide]

So usually yes, you wanna put a m.2 nvme ssd on the motherboard, and a hard disk in the case.

You can get 2.5 inch or 3.5 inch SSDs which are not M.2 and do the same, the price will be much higher

But yeah, I'll highly recommend the one on the amazon list. that has better parts all around compared to these pre/custom builts. and if you feel like you're running out of space, you can always order a hdd/sata ssd later on.

[jagged lark]

But then if i wanna add a graphics card later on will i be able to?

And the monitor is definitely not worth it. £135 for 75hz

[jovial tide]

That's the point of the build. yes you can and it will perform very well.

Well what are the better options for 130-140 pounds? also if you have one you don't have to buy one.

[jagged lark]

This 144hz for £130 if i buy right now

https://www.ebuyer.com/807382-zowie-xl2411p-24-led-full-hd-monitor-9h-lgplb-qbe

[jovial tide]

display port 1.2 - no freesync/gsync compatibility.
which means you're susceptible to tearing.

[jovial tide]

https://my.aoc.com/product/G2490VX

https://www.amazon.co.uk/AOC-Gaming-G2490VXA-FreeSync-1920x1080/dp/B08KP4XPRS/

[iron lantern]

I generally dislike anything below 27 inch if ur likely going to go single monitor gaming

If ur gonna go dual monitors, u can get away with it

[silent mason]

As they're in the UK, I can recommend PC Specialist.

[jovial tide]

Please send a 500-700 pound build here

[silent mason]

I'll look later on, I'm a bit busy right now.

I just recommend PCS as I got my PC from them and they were great

[jovial tide]

Perfect man, thanks for the comment

[silent mason]

But at the £500-700 range it might be a bit slim pickings. Since you custom spec them, but might be worth looking at their "next day PCs"

gah, looks like they don't do next day PCs

https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/computers-next-day/pc/ nevermind then. And they don't have anything in the £500-700 range. It jumps from £370 to £950?

Yep, just had a look on the config, at £500-700 a custom spec isn't gonna really happen either... ADMI might be the only option, since I assume we need a dGPU?

[jovial tide]

For that price I built this https://www.amazon.co.uk/hz/wishlist/ls/3P5I8E40QK1FC/ref=nav_wishlist_lists_1?_encoding=UTF8&type=wishlist

[silent mason]

ah, if we go for the no dGPU option, then we might be able to whip something up

https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/computers/amd-am4-gen3-pc/ I'd say see what you can whip up there within the budget then

[jovial tide]

yeah 5600G + good specs

[jovial tide]

@jovial tide look at this https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08KP4XPRS

It's like £30 more but it better

Alr

Yes it's twice as good. 144Hz instead of 75Hz

[pure ridge]

Banned plushy#1697 (Case #121032) (user notified with a direct message)

[strong saffron]

How do I check which websites/servers/domains/IPs a webpage connects to while it loads information or does whatever it does?

[iron lantern]

the minimum of 1080p gaming is a 144hz monitor

thats it

[iron lantern]

garf

good try

phishy link

[plucky raft]

no

[civic cloud]

where do you see a graph in that pic omar

[iron lantern]

more or less a chart of information

[civic cloud]

But he said graph 🤨

[jovial tide]

top of the screen dyna

[tame current]

For gaming, W10 Home or Pro won't matter, right?

[vapid grove]

no

[tame current]

Hmmm?

I'm still stuck if I should pick home or pro

[civic cloud]

Dyna >:(

[cold elbow]

Pro @tame current

[jovial tide]

dyna

[civic cloud]

@jovial tide >:((((

[jovial tide]

[vapid grove]

Didn't they used to have a GPU flair

[brave field]

No gaming benefit but sometimes group policy can be helpful

the nonsense with Windows sandbox and update deferring and such could suck too, if you're not abusing some third party tools for it

[jovial tide]

omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg!

my pixel google assistant actually is useful, I just found a song through it

in 3 seconds it was able to identify this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6dycwCEyP8

[cold elbow]

Shazam been doing this for a decade

[jovial tide]

It's better than Shazam found it in 3 seconds

[brave field]

The whole environment surrounding JS frontends is toxic and must be purged

Just getting the VueJS cli fills the terminal with DEPRECATED and SEVERE SECURITY WARNING

and of course it needs to download over 4000 files

Its an official, standard tool, why is it like this

[nova sorrel]

Can anyone explain to me why (3+2i)^2 is equal to 5+12i ?

[jovial tide]

i is a normal variable?

I thought about complex ones for a second nvm.

[nova sorrel]

i is an imaginary number

[jovial tide]

ok so complex plane

(3 + 2i) to the power of 2 is 9 + 6i + 6i + 4i*2 correct?

i to the power of 2 is -1 so we have 9 + 12i -4 = 5 + 12i

why that is, is because we define square root of -1 as i therefore i^2 by definition is -1 @nova sorrel

[nova sorrel]

Ty, my smooth brain was forgetting to foil

[jovial tide]

no problem, wolframalpha.com and google help a little.

[nova sorrel]

Now I understand how to do the second half of my hw👍

[jovial tide]

I really think most math problems shouldn't be given to people at schools at this point. I mean even crappiest embeded computers can solve these problems.

like triple/double integrations and most geometric calculus problems.

[jovial tide]

https://www.thepcwholesale.com/product/dell-inspiron-7790-all-in-one-core-i7-10510u-1-8ghz-1tb512gb-ssd-16gb-27-1920x1080-touchscreen-bt-win10-pop-up-webcam-nvidia-mx110-2048mb-wireless-keyboard-mouse-white/

is this a desktop

or pc

or laptop

[brave field]

Dell Inspiron AIOs

ITs a laptop in the form factor of a TV

[jovial tide]

how

[brave field]

Dell's older AIOs did use desktop parts

but their current ones are all using laptop parts

[jovial tide]

this ones a 2020

[brave field]

laptop cooling, laptop everything

[jovial tide]

it works much better than my laptop that I had tho

like 400% faster

[brave field]

Its using Intel 10th gen with 16gb of ram and a GPU, its not weak or anything

[jovial tide]

Processor    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz   2.30 GHz
Installed RAM    12.0 GB (11.8 GB usable)
Device ID    7991AF16-BD74-4491-B304-97819BE4F163
Product ID    00325-96743-25984-AAOEM
System type    64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Pen and touch    Touch support with 10 touch points

these are my system stats

Dell's cheap cheap cheap

[brave field]

but its still a laptop

just a much better laptop than you're used to

The SSD is probably doing LOADS for it feeling responsive though

[sly crane]

do u know where i can get a Geforce gtx 1050 ti max-q

[brave field]

lots of laptops, even today, are using hard drives for the OS

[jovial tide]

why 1050ti? you can get 1660 nowadays

[brave field]

The max-Q can't be purchased separately

[sly crane]

idk i just saw it run good things

[sly crane]

is it better?

[jovial tide]

it's good yeah a 1660 laptop's good enough

[sly crane]

im looking for a pc one

[jovial tide]

good enoug for what

well PC doesn't have max-q or max-p

[sly crane]

well whats a good graphics card for fh4

[brave field]

1660 is much better but suffers from the same pricing/stock issues as the 1650 we discussed earlier

Anything good is overpriced, anything bad is overpriced, and anything existent is out of stock
you have a better chance getting a 3060 or 3060 ti at a sane price than the 16 series though, since they're still being produced and restocked

[jovial tide]

find anything like 6700/6700xt/6800/6800xt/3060/1660/1650/3060/3070/3070ti

it's like fishing you have to look for it at the right time to catch the fish

[sly crane]

what

explain in english

[kindred temple]

Explain in english @jovial tide

[jovial tide]

https://thehackernews.com/2021/09/a-new-bug-in-microsoft-windows-could.html

since 2012

[fathom socket]

Hmm maths channel ..... 🙂Wat is 554345566 x5534560044

[jovial tide]

yes

[sly crane]

3,068,058,820,152,164,904

Quite simple

[silent mason]

Alright let's up the ante. What is 3,068,058,820,152,164,904^3,068,058,820,152,164,904 (and yes that's a sign for "to the power of")

[sly crane]

🥲

alright.

[silent mason]

You aren't gonna be able to use a calculator for that one, it'll error out. :D

[sly crane]

I hate you very much

[silent mason]

Everyone hates me very much so...

[cold elbow]

Delete math off this channel

[sly crane]

well i hate you more than them

[silent mason]

Yeah calling it tech coding math probably wasn't the best idea.

[sly crane]

fyi it equals undefined

[silent mason]

I mean there will be a number for it. It's just what is that number going to be because it's going to be a massive number.

[sly crane]

Yes

But i cant do that in my head or on paper

[silent mason]

♾

[sly crane]

im not even in 3rd year of high school man

[silent mason]

Now that would be a fun one to break even the most insane mathematician... ♾^♾

[sly crane]

it would just equal that

I don't think there's a definitive answer for that, other than writing it as it is, because infinity isn't a defined number, it's just ♾️

[silent mason]

Well no because you're multiplying infinity by itself, infinitely. So it's larger than ♾

[sly crane]

Yes, but technically there is no larger number than infinity

It's similar to dividing something by 0

or multiplying by zero

Either way, it equals the same

[silent mason]

Multiplying by 0 is just 0...

[sly crane]

Exactly\

[silent mason]

However dividing by zero... that's not 0...

[sly crane]

There's nothing above infinity, as it's the largest number

[sly crane]

I didn't mean that

[silent mason]

Also... ♾/0️⃣

[sly crane]

I've used my brain enough today

[silent mason]

That's going to make every mathematician in the world plot my demise.

[sly crane]

yep

[sly crane]

did 2 essays in 2 days

My brain is ded

[silent mason]

And they're doing to do it... using differential equations.

[sly crane]

oh no

dont implement new things into maths

[silent mason]

Welcome to AS Level mathematics

[polar plank]

-30

[fathom socket]

As token of appreciation I will buy u gta 50 when it comes out

[full hull]

Should I make a new installation of windows 10 or wait for 11 release

My windows files are corrupted and the system feels kinda slow

[severe pebble]

Ayo anybody can help out?

Is 16gb ram enough

Or should I upgrade it

[jovial tide]

It's fine @severe pebble but depends on your laptop model

[cold elbow]

i mistakenly disabled the network interface on my server

stupidest thing i have ever done

[void needle]

Is it compatible with 11? Reinstall win 10 then upgrade to 11.

[void needle]

Hahhahaha

[cold elbow]

yes

to be safe u need to install windows 10 with what the 11 needs like having a TPM and secure boot enabled

[void needle]

Install win10 first then update

[cold elbow]

for me nothing interests me in win 11

[full hull]

I have Ryzen 3600,gtx 1660 ti,16gb 3200 and 1tb Samsung 860 evo

Is it compatible?

[civic cloud]

if your motherboard has a TPM 2.0 module, yes

[severe pebble]

I have ryzen 7 5800x, rtx 3050, 16gb ram, along with 512gb ssd

Should be enough to run basically any game fairly smooth

Right?

[full hull]

MSI b450 gaming pro carbon max WiFi

[jovial tide]

hmm how did you find 3050 for desktop?

[severe pebble]

Nah it's laptop alright

[jovial tide]

so it's not 5800x, so what's the laptop model @severe pebble

[cold elbow]

I don't think you need the mobo to support it because the module is in the cpu itself

[civic cloud]

really? 🤨

[brave field]

It can be on the CPU die, on the chipset die, or your board's UEFI can do some software magic and tell the PSP/IME to do it

[severe pebble]

Ah wait it's 5800H

[void needle]

Windows 11 compatability is crazy tight

[brave field]

That WBPT exploit looks interesting

[abstract sleet]

Is iris xe graphics card run gta 5 smoothly?

[cold elbow]

it can run fine but dont expect 60FPS

[jovial tide]

pepega linustechtips https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruhZrv9ppJo

x17 doesn't have mux switch

[cold elbow]

i never liked alex

[abstract sleet]

Yeah i know that too but my question is that will be there be laggy gameplay like potato pc if i play on iris xe graphics card?

[cold elbow]

stuttering usually annoying if it comes from the CPU

make sure that u use that with dual channel memeory and your experience will be fine

at the end even high end computers cant hit 60FPS in filled online session lol

[civic cloud]

Why :(

He seems a lil lost sometimes but overall nice

[cold elbow]

he makes a big deal of a lot of tiny things

like caring about keyboard tactile on a budget laptop for gaming

or for the audio for a cheap laptop made for gaming

[brave field]

!ban 813358083875143712 phishing

[pure ridge]

Banned C9 VIPER 💙_🤍#7399 (Case #121164) (user notified with a direct message)

[civic cloud]

Cheap Laptop?

It's over 3 Grand

Or do you mean other videos

[cold elbow]

other videos

ofc

[civic cloud]

but is he supposed to not mention them?

They do get a lil nitpicky about stuff

But i think that's because they mostly review the high end stuff

So if they actually have a budget thing, it looks way worse than it actually might be

[cold elbow]

he does not focus on the thing that budget fames care about

that's the thing

and spend half of the video talks about shit like the keyboard or the speakers

or .... touchpad lmao

[civic cloud]

I've heard crabrave so many times by now

Good song tho

[kindred temple]

Needs bios update to be on

[jovial tide]

Yeah but it was there the whole time.

[kindred temple]

Also, why do you have to care about performance when build quality is so much easier to talk about?

[jovial tide]

Motherboard is mux (aka nvidia optimus) capable. they just updated it for 4k (called advanced optimus)

[kindred temple]

Laptops are ass to be reviewed because you dont have every laptop on earth

[cold elbow]

that's another reason

like do u know why people buy cheap gaming laptops?

he wants it to have very solid build quality with no flex

[kindred temple]

Because they think that performance is everything and dont understand that you buy a full experience with a laptop not just what inside

[civic cloud]

Who's they in your message

[kindred temple]

Because lets be 100, most desktop replacement use case scenarios are BYOD office worker and disowned children.

[cold elbow]

most people asking for that kind just want a good computer that run their game and does not overheat

[kindred temple]

[cold elbow]

they will use mouse and headset anyways

comparing a cheap gaming laptop to a dell XPS

[kindred temple]

PC

Again, in my opinion

[kindred temple]

.

[sinful tapir]

can someone help me. i played gta and then my monitor turned much whiter and darker pls help me. he dont got so much colours now

[brave field]

Playing the game shouldn't cause anything like that. Restart the system its connected to and power cycle the monitor. If it persists after a restart, narrow down if its the monitor that decided to act weird or if the game changes some Windows color setting by checking the colors in your UEFI or connecting something different to the monitor

If its the latter, Windows' display settings menu displays options to revert any changes made to color

[sinful tapir]

Whats a power cycle ?

[brave field]

turn it off, unplug from the wall and anything else that's getting electricity, wait 10 seconds, hold the power button for a bit, wait 10 more, and plug everything back in

[jovial tide]

1×1+9= burrito

[vernal bloom]

Need help with yt

[lost fossil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJKDsgaZzFM

[brave field]

being closed source really sucks for this

but unlike with OpenRGB, the SignalRGB people have money

[lost fossil]

don't tell me they're mining bitcoin on the LED controllers inside the light strips

i tried openrgb on 2 of my computers that have rgb capabilities and unfortunately it didn't work very well

[brave field]

such a small team taking on a large task 😦

SignalRGB having its whole account system and a paid requirement to use half its features is so wack

and then they don't provide an SDK and bindings to contribute a lightscript for certain software

[cold elbow]

Im in their server and tried their software

They're very slow when it comes to adding devices but quick on adding games add-ons

Submitted to add my board like 2 months ago

[jovial tide]

Well if it works for everything it's worth it

[cold elbow]

If it works

Because then you will only need one software

[jovial tide]

Yeah, and it won't try to control everything else

[cold elbow]

Currently it only supports my ram and mouse

[jovial tide]

You install a NZXT cam software and it'll try to consume your soul

[cold elbow]

Jokes on it i have no soul

[jovial tide]

I've seen people GPU throttling just because of software like that; once a guy was clock limited because of those programs.

Well in your case, it'll try to blow the soul into you

[cold elbow]

I remember my old 1060 strix had oc that can only be enabled by their OC software

And fans headers as well

And guess what

That oc profile that they heavily advertise only gives you like 10+ on the core

[jovial tide]

hahahaha Nvidia Geforce Experience overlay auto tuning gives you more than that

EXTREMEEE OVERCLOOCKINNNNGGGG +10MHz

[lost fossil]

my 1080 ti often gets stuck at 200mhz core after boot so i have to fiddle with afterburner for a minute to get it up to spec again

[cold elbow]

U probably fkd up somewhere

DDU might fix it

[lost fossil]

i've ddu'd this particular windows at least 10 times

doesn't bother me too much anyway bc that 1080ti is a silicon lottery winner apparently

[jovial tide]

try uninstalling all programs that have cpu/gpu tuning active capabilities.
then use GeForce Experience autoscan feature (alt + z -> performance -> enable automatic tuning) it will make you a safe and stable oc profile.

the problem too many programs try to "automatically control" hardware resources, then it becomes a dilemma.

[cold elbow]

It's not easy to find that one software that left some garbage that mess with the gpu

Even if u remove them

[jovial tide]

Well Ms. Melon, I've helped people (lots of people) in gta-tech-support

it always worked.

[brave field]

random Steam indie game leaves set_gpu_idle.exe in your startup folder on uninstall

[lost fossil]

kinda cba tbh maybe when i eventually do a clean install on this ssd that i bought almost 2 months ago...

this installation is almost 3yo

[jovial tide]

oh wow. that's a problem.

[brave field]

software is toxic

Things are messed up when a 3 year old install is considered problematic

[jovial tide]

Oleg, I think you should be able to install OS on that, remove the boot and recovery partitions on this one then convert current primary drive to a nomral one instead of bootable

[cold elbow]

Freshhhhhhh

Freshhhh

[jovial tide]

You won't lose any files like this

[cold elbow]

Freshhhh

Freshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Ok im drunk

[jovial tide]

well he did say he wants to install on a new ssd he bought. and this is another disk so.

[brave field]

Bootloader is still going to throw itself onto the old one if its plugged in

[lost fossil]

my current drive has almost 300 tbw tho