tech-coding-math

[jovial tide]

Yes

You can still play with 5600G it has a decent graphics card inside of it. And the HDD you should ask them to give you 7200rpm HDDs.

[kindred temple]

Yes

[jovial tide]

Okay so my hand is 17.5cm bottom to top and 13cm side to side

[jovial tide]

Ah okayy

[quartz kayak]

Thats hot

[jovial tide]

3 TIMES I'VE HAD MY ARMS AND HANDS CALLED HOT

[quartz kayak]

Im sori

[lost fossil]

[jovial tide]

HELL NO

[lost fossil]

[twin niche]

[cold elbow]

sick people

[jovial tide]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/807289141875572766/873152551191711754/868465352206598194.gif

[quartz kayak]

Htid is scary

[jovial tide]

Russia is a unique place with unique people

[jagged lark]

What does this cable do? Came with my airpods. All i know is one side connects into an apple device and other fits into my ps5 controller

[kindred temple]

Well its a data cable, does both charging and data transfer.

The other "apple" device end is called lightning port.

And the other "PS5" end is called USB Type-C port.

[jovial tide]

USB C cable for iPhone probably

[quartz kayak]

U can play airpods with Ps5 controller

100%

[jagged lark]

Oh type c for ps5 port

[jovial tide]

No it's apple devices to usb-c

[jagged lark]

But then i gotta take it out the case tho

[jovial tide]

It's for charging it I think

Like charging the charger

[jagged lark]

Oh so like it can connect to samsung devices too?

[quartz kayak]

*Android

[jovial tide]

Samsungs use usb-c usb-c

[lost fossil]

usb-c is a power move to get people to move from usb-a which is known for making people angry for not being able to plug it in the right way on the first try

[lost fossil]

it's not a ps5 port it's a usb type-c port

[jovial tide]

Oleg fix this

people can't say could !@#!@ not #!%#@$$# join !@#!@#!@$ a %#$^$$% server

bot auto deletes

[lost fossil]

[jovial tide]

try saying it

[lost fossil]

yeah it's because when people say join a server they usually mean "join my epic gaming server here is invite"

i ed omar about this

[kindred temple]

join my epic gaming server here is invite

[jovial tide]

thanks

[lost fossil]

funnily enough that doesn't get picked up

[jovial tide]

did u try ? 😄

[kindred temple]

Join my server guys

[jovial tide]

see? disappeared lol

[kindred temple]

Wat

I still see em

[jovial tide]

try saying what I said without all that !@#!@$!@

say -> I could !@#!@ not #!%#@$$# join !@#!@#!@$ a %#$^$$% server

[kindred temple]

[analog wharf]

damn i sure do love this tech talk

anyways i have 16gb ram you 8gb ram losers

im about to update my bios for the 100th time this day

[lost fossil]

i know that some ppl out there have 63+ but

[jovial tide]

[lost fossil]

i have 32gb ram you 16gb ram loser

in both pcs

[quartz kayak]

Imagine flexing ram

[analog wharf]

1060 is better than 3090

[quartz kayak]

I have gummis feet pics

Thats the ultimate flex

[jovial tide]

1060 better than 3090

[analog wharf]

the ultimate flex is task manager not responding

[quartz kayak]

Actually that just happened to me in my course pc

Then windows crashed

[analog wharf]

nono wait, the ultimate flex is having a 100% keyboard in 2021

[quartz kayak]

Now i have htid hand pic

[quartz kayak]

I actually do have one

I gotta get an new one

[analog wharf]

but can your ram do this?

[lost fossil]

[quartz kayak]

The actual ultimate flex is having the most stock non rgb ram possible

So htid wins

The sleeper ram award

[analog wharf]

instead of turning off my pc i prefer doing it the simple way, disassembling my pc and when i need to turn it back on i reassemble it

[lost fossil]

i put the tea string on it so that the tea doesn't leak to the table through the string

best ram usecase

[analog wharf]

tbh i feel like getting a 2tb ram system so i can finally run chrome without getting that cursed bsod

[lost fossil]

ok adapang

[cold elbow]

psychopath

[analog wharf]

also need that good rtx 6900 to run minecraft rtx 🤑

my current pc cant run seus shaders without dropping to -60fps

[jovial tide]

Nooooo!

[silent mason]

Time for the next 3 month wait for stock... just missed a restock for TCA stuff due to me being hesitant to use Klarna

[jovial tide]

where is he?! I miss that dude's weird flexings

[lost fossil]

left after i asked for proof

[jovial tide]

lul

[lost fossil]

is there a good usb to 2230 nvme case?

not 2242, only 2230

[civic cloud]

only if you join mine 🥺

[fair bison]

2+5 HELP ME

IM ABOUT TO FAIL

[lost fossil]

12

[civic cloud]

19

[stuck lynx]

ip grabber

[lost fossil]

i wish it was just an ip grabber

[autumn shoal]

guys whats a cookie logger

[fervent sapphire]

Anyone here with an Xbox Wireless Controller?

You don't need to remove the batteries and charge them separately through a charger, right?

You can just plug in your USB-C cable and it charges the batteries while inside the controller?

[lost fossil]

some (most) batteries can't be charged like that

[kindred temple]

Iirc XSX wireless has internal batts

[fervent sapphire]

Series X controllers, the one I have, still comes with AA battery slots

[kindred temple]

Oh

Yeah, then itll work just like average xbox. Batt for wireless, USB power when wired.

You gonna still need to plug in the batt to a charger.

[fervent sapphire]

Yep just read a forum post where someone killed his controller that way lol

[lost fossil]

if you use ni-mh (whats that again?) batteties then you can charge them inside the controller

bought some ikea ones for a dect phone

but these batteries are shit

[kindred temple]

You were right, most rechargeables are still nimh's

You could charge li-ion AA batteries, but theyre not rechargable rated.

:Bruh:

[lost fossil]

there are these lithium aa batteries with usb ports

[fervent granite]

Those have terrible battery life though

You're better off buying some cheap aa batteries or buying a decent rechargeable battery pack

[full hull]

My battery health dropped by 1% after 8 months of use

[jovial tide]

ok

[jovial tide]

don't worry about it. just put it to trashcan and buy a new one after 2-3 years.

[full hull]

I used my iPhone 6 for 5 years straight

I plan to use my 12 pro for the next 5 years

[cold elbow]

Ok

In 5 years u wont get type C anyway

[analog wharf]

something that logs all the cookies you ate in a day

[polar iris]

anyone that has amd know how do you open amd software ? there is this little bug where it wont open by any means even if you restart your pc

[quartz kayak]

What amd software?

[polar iris]

The app for amd

[quartz kayak]

[polar iris]

But at this point ig my PC just died

Without task manager on wallpaper engine was using 100% og GPU for some fucking reason

[quartz kayak]

Radeon?

[polar iris]

Yes

AMD Radeon software

I'ma just factory reset this shit and install the app again

[quartz kayak]

Dont

[polar iris]

There is no fucking way of fixing this

[quartz kayak]

Thats an pretty normal bug

[polar iris]

Yes but nothing will make it work

Resting my PC deleting CN data

[quartz kayak]

Yeah, have u tried downloading an late version?

[polar iris]

It's the fucking latest version

I cannot open the app to check if there is a newer one

The only way of fixing this is either uninstalling all the drivers or factory reset

[quartz kayak]

Try uninstalling it and installing an already released older version mabe?

[polar iris]

Idk how do I uninstall and install specific drivers

There is a toll to uninstall every AMD driver but it also removes audio and other drives that work perfectly

Tool*

There is also something very random happening

While I'm with task manager on my CPU seems to be normal at 1% of usage but when I'm not it just goes up to 99% for some reason

Idk best thing might just be to reset this, I'm gonna lose some clips but since I save them all on this server it's not gonna be such a pain in the butt, but installing all the stuff is gonna be

[jovial tide]

--Cookie cookie cookie-- found the problem

Every though ram's xmp profiles were 16-18-18-18-38 @ 1.35V the motherboard xmp set the parameters to something entirely different!!!!! 1.375 12-14-14-32

[arctic yarrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKzmYsySGFQ

[civic cloud]

Why does the logo look like from parsec

[arctic yarrow]

If y'all remember the verge PC guide, Stephan was the guy who was in the vid.

[vapid grove]

That's awesome. Glad he's (finally) being a good sport about it.

Though IDK how much of the lack of response on the original vid was him or Verge

[arctic yarrow]

I think the Verge royally fucked him as a scapegoat tho.

[vapid grove]

Wouldn't surprise me

[arctic yarrow]

Like sure, he wasn't exactly experienced enough when he made the vid, but the Verge decided to use him as a scapegoat, then fired him.

[analog wharf]

Verge pc build guide who doesn’t remember that hell

Everything was wrong in that video except nothing

Nothing was good

That video is just chaos

[brave field]

Will people finally stop harassing him on Twitter?

That guy endured over a year of "tweezers" being the only replies to his tweets

[jovial tide]

@brave field

Even though*

[brave field]

hm, interesting

[jovial tide]

Also that time spy test compared to similar system shows there might be a psu problem

he's using "EVGA SuperNOVA 850W GA 80+ gold power supply"

and had eco on (psu)

[kindred temple]

Wont matter really, but EVGAs shit the bed nowadays

[jovial tide]

Also do you guys recommend using XMP then changing ddr profile and voltage on top of that?

[brave field]

Manual overclocking and using the profile should be mutually exclusive

[jovial tide]

look at this

yeah you're right that's not possible we tried it changes back to this one.

where is this coming from?

in oc section the ram clearly says 16-18-18-38

even in their website they say that

[kindred temple]

CMIIW but isnt the XMP profiles are all made integrated to the RAM? @brave field

[brave field]

The profiles are stored on the ram, yeah

you can check what is saved in there with Thaiphoon burner

[fervent granite]

1.6 ghz ram?

[jovial tide]

Do you have a trident royal around?

[brave field]

The google results are kinda sketch, maybe the original software is gone 😦

[jovial tide]

This is insanely weird :/

Even in OC section, bottom of A-XMP it states 16-18-18-38 something like that

And here's the ram https://www.gskill.com/product/165/299/1552463037/F4-3200C16D-32GTRSTrident-Z-RoyalDDR4-3200MHz-CL16-18-18-38-1.35V32GB-(2x16GB)

[fervent granite]

When will they stop using megahertz for ram?

[brave field]

maybe when xx33/xx66mhz SKUs stop being made

2666mhz is well known, but 2600mhz is still considered a valid and separate speed

2933 vs 3000 is also a weird one, Zen and Zen+ hate the latter despite the difference being tiny

2100 vs 2133

[fervent granite]

Actually now that I think about it, why do they even use metric prefixes if they aren’t actually metric?

[brave field]

wha.. metric, right
You're not interrupting!

Please come back!

[jovial tide]

After recently getting back into Linux, I've been looking for little tools to make it a little more fun to do basic tasks. This is my solution for youtube music. No ads!

Using mplayer/vlc, youtube-dl and mps-youtube

[silent mason]

What if they made a 4178mhz ram sku

[brave field]

mps to search, pipe the url to ytdl, throw the file into vlc automatically?

[jovial tide]

With mplayer it just gets played in the background. With VLC it has a pop-up window

Youtube doesn't like the predefined youtube API key, so you gotta create your own using google's tools. It was easier than expected to do.

[brave field]

ooh

[jovial tide]

if you cant tell im new as heck to linux

[wide gull]

anyone in here able to help me with blender? i'm new and struggling with a couple small things

[brave field]

@wide gull Need help still?

What part of the program do you need help with?

[jovial tide]

Cookie Cookie problem solved

Also moved pci-e cables on the psu from 2-3-4 to 1-2-3 and turning eco off

Poor guy bought a PS4 on top of that pc just to play GTA

Now he can return the PS4 and enjoy the PC

[brave field]

oooh

solved problems, yes!

[jovial tide]

I still don't know where that XMP profile came from.

Guess "MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI" is kind of weird

[kindred temple]

Im gonna just quote my LTT forum post about this video.

The Ragusea story i eluded to in the thread: https://youtu.be/fxUnwsttr_8

[wide gull]

i was trying to modify some models for a 3d print, but had vertices that i couldn't get rid of, and wasn't sure if i was gonna end up with a bunch of random perimeters inside of the model

basically stumbling

[brave field]

ah

I haven't used much since 2.7, but pressing X should bring up a menu where you can delete specific things

I believe after selecting the vertices, XV will do it

[wide gull]

hm

issue was, i needed some of them

this kinda floaters happened a couple times

was knocking out surfaces

better angle

would love to keep in touch for next time i'm stuck though

i managed to export each thing to separate files and they look like they'll slice okay 🤷‍♂️

was worried about the surfaces remaining solid n' stuff when joining them, still dunno if that's a thing or not

[brave field]

Meshes shouldn't lose any faces when joined with ctrl + j or the context menu option
yesyes, keep in touch!

[wide gull]

attempting to print my first modified model, wish me lucks

(half of it is supports 😫 )

[lost fossil]

aliexpress be like

[kindred temple]

aliexpress moment

[pliant lynx]

im using sunsung guluxy

[jovial tide]

Might just be a typo

[lost fossil]

it's not

[jovial tide]

Scam? :o

[lost fossil]

probably not, but there is another store called samsung global store

[brave field]

I see stuff like this in the Discord.JS guide and get so confused. Anyone have tips or a good reference for what this {({})} stuff means?

(async () => {function contents blah blah}})();

How should one know when to add the extra parentheses?

[jovial tide]

Well like any other function it should be the inputs. and I guess () means void.

Also there's either an extra } in there (typo) or this includes another function we don't see.

[strong saffron]

the () means that the function takes no arguments

https://javascript.info/arrow-functions-basics

[jovial tide]

yep void in c++ is = no arguments in other languages

[strong saffron]

I'm learning d.js too now that py is ded

[lost fossil]

what about vco's library

[strong saffron]

I didn't know he had one

~~this? https://github.com/nextcord/nextcord~~
nvm its probably this: https://github.com/vcokltfre/Corded

[brave field]

arrow functions, ah

[strong saffron]

i am not pro enough to use that with no documentation

[brave field]

I was looking at Microcord and Speedcord

Hata and Hikari as well

none of them have those docs though, yeah

Discord.py and Discord.JS go all the way with theirs

[strong saffron]

I considered the Rust wrapper for Discord because I kind of wanted to learn Rust too but I eventually went with d.js because Rust looks too advanced to just jump in like that

d.py docs is literally the best I've ever come across

[graceful ether]

Which mobo do you recommend that have a m.2 and a 4.0 pcie

Cheaper than 150usd

[jovial tide]

You have lots of options

[graceful ether]

And for AMD

[jovial tide]

B550A-Pro MSI

Supports every AMD AM4 there is + is very stable + great software

[graceful ether]

I am not doing oc apart from the boostclock, it will be a problem?

[jovial tide]

Nope

[graceful ether]

ty

[jovial tide]

With this you can just put the cpu in, put the rams in, turn on xmp and enjoy.

true

by any am4 I meant 3000 4000 5000

How's it going sid

I solved that hanging problem for the guy

Mpg X570 gaming edge wifi weirdly uses its own settings for xmp

Instead of ram's 16 18. 18 18 38 it was something entirely different

[lost fossil]

a certified msi classic

[jovial tide]

10 12 12 12 26

[brave field]

DDR3 timings on my DDR4, yuh

[jovial tide]

Pepega msi

[analog wharf]

real gud

[iron lantern]

https://www.antonline.com/evga/graphicscards/bundles

Fast fast fast

before the scalpers take their stock

gamers unite

only 3080 ti and 3060 bundles left

[vapid grove]

3060 TI and 3070 TI already gone

Sad

3060 is a shit value so

[iron lantern]

i havent seen anyone scalp it so far

[brave field]

need to make $250 in profit over all the components

[iron lantern]

yea ppl arent gonna buy teh 3080 ti and 3060 for a bit

[cold elbow]

site looks sketch

wait no

[vapid grove]

ant online is pretty reputable/well known

[iron lantern]

lol

[brave field]

yeah, they're legit

site is just ugly

[iron lantern]

lol

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bB3H99/razer-blackwidow-elite-wired-gaming-keyboard-rz03-02620200-r3u1?history_days=730 god this price is skyrocketing

it was like

whayt

160?

[cold elbow]

Dont buy razer

[gaunt granite]

honestly I'd go with logitech mice (the good logitech ones, not the cheap ones) over razer

https://www.logitechg.com/en-gb/products/gaming-mice/g502-hero-gaming-mouse.910-005471.html is good

lol

thats the one I do like

it works well for me

but as always YMMV

[vapid grove]

G502 is a great mouse, only if you like chonky mice though

[silent mason]

I'm loving the Razer N Trinity myself

[cold elbow]

G502 is the most popular logitech mouse

It's not cheap

Or bad

People loves it

And that's why it's popular

Ok

[quartz kayak]

Isnt that the mouse wich the scroll do the spinny thingy thing?

Where it spins a lot

[brave field]

infamous mouse from the video "mouse?"

[cold elbow]

I think logitech needs to focus more on their software

It's lacking lately

[light totem]

Yes

Unlock wheel and it go vrrr

[quartz kayak]

I own that

My bfs old mouse

[cold elbow]

Im thinking of switching to corsair

[light totem]

Corsair mouse is…
I dont like

[cold elbow]

Corsair keyboards are bad?

[light totem]

Keyboards are gud
Honestly not a big difference

[cold elbow]

Logitech did me bad with my keyboard after they stopped supporting it on their software

I care about software

Any keyboard or mouse that doesn't support a solid software is out

[light totem]

What about steel series

[cold elbow]

Trash

[light totem]

Mostly pretty expensive tho

[cold elbow]

Steelseries is a 10$ mouse for 50$

[quartz kayak]

Not all peripherals are bad, but the mouses and keyboards are meh

[quartz kayak]

Razer has a solid software imo

[cold elbow]

Corsair is way better

Icue is like perfection

[quartz kayak]

Idk, i dont have corsair

Razer has icue aswell

Synapse i mean

[cold elbow]

Bloatware u mean

Hmmm

What about

Aios

What about ram

What about cases

Fans

My 3600 cl18 running now on cl16

With no issues

And not even expensive

[brave field]

What model is pulling that off?

Corsair bins have been trash for me too

[cold elbow]

Vengeance pro

My friend has two of the same ram kits

And running the same settings

I like the corsair eco system lately

For example their aio has a water temperature sensor

And you can target your fans based on that

Or on the gpu temperature

You get a lot of options that are actually usable

I have friends running the h100i for 5 years

On a continuous load with OC

Just because it's asetek doesn't mean it's bad

Price because of icue

And ofc the rgb shit

You get an icue controller with it that u can plug all your fans to it

[iron lantern]

im just a sucker for razer greens

i feel they give more of a mechanical vibe than cherry greens

[quartz kayak]

i liked them at the start now i hate them

[cold elbow]

Btw im not even using a corsair aio but i know they are great for what they do

[quartz kayak]

they are too clicky

[iron lantern]

i might start hating them like 2 years after owning them

[quartz kayak]

i need to upgrade my keyboardf

[cold elbow]

Same

[quartz kayak]

been owning the razer chroma for like 5 years now

[cold elbow]

Im running a logitech keyboard from 2009

That's 11 years

[quartz kayak]

i didnt even had an good gameng pc at the time

:c

[cold elbow]

Back then this keyboard used to cost 250$

[quartz kayak]

yes

mine was 190 eur at the time

so fkn expensive lmao

[cold elbow]

Turn out that it worth every penny and i hope logitech goes back to their glory with keyboard that has screens

[quartz kayak]

im thinking of getting an custom keyboard

[cold elbow]

Meh

K95 or something

Should be fine

[quartz kayak]

or im buying the huntsman mini and modding it

like this

[cold elbow]

Or

Go big with the k100

[quartz kayak]

i ve had my share with big kboards

[cold elbow]

Idk how people use these tiny keyboards without media controlls and macro keys

And no numpad

How am i supposed to play

[quartz kayak]

its not that bad

u get used to it after a while

[cold elbow]

It's very bad

[quartz kayak]

:c

[cold elbow]

The satisfaction of my volume wheel alone

[quartz kayak]

my volume wheel is on my headset

so no need

[cold elbow]

Lame

Also life without macro keys is hard

[quartz kayak]

u can still macro

just not the macro keys since they dont exist

[cold elbow]

It's not proprietary

A simple pwm

[iron lantern]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RJhBMv
trashed the 3080 ti idea for a overkill 3080 build. Any suggestions?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JhWPPV
new case idea

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Z4yyGq
even newer case idea

1440p overkill

[kindred temple]

Get the P400A, lower the PSU to 850, and get your keyboard from HyperX or Logitech

[iron lantern]

wanted 100+ fps for a couple triple A games

[iron lantern]

the 1.5x the recommended wattage goes over 850, plus in the future i somehow decided on a 3080 ti, i can

[kindred temple]

Fair play

[iron lantern]

with the p400a, i dont need the extra 3 fans

but the top of the p400a can hold 360mm

so then theres an empty socket for a fan

[kindred temple]

And an opening for custom watercooling

[iron lantern]

sure

but i can go over the ram sticks

[kindred temple]

Actually i think you can get atleast a CPU loop at like 3 grand

Whats your budget?

overkill

[iron lantern]

lower than 3k

[kindred temple]

Well gee no shit discord financial advisor #9374824

[iron lantern]

dude, current standards arent to last for eternity, i want my rig to last at least a decade

[kindred temple]

Let the man have it

Its not genuine money burning if its a hobby

[iron lantern]

its not futureproofing lmao

its literally having a system usable without extreme modification for a decade

[kindred temple]

Fucking ouroboros.

All the fucking time in here.

[iron lantern]

if i did went for a 3080 ti, sure i would of done some extreme modification especially next gen of cpus comes out

[kindred temple]

All good, but i would spend less on RAM with the standard Ripjawz instead, and get a B550 board

but at this high of a play you really need a solid board like B550-F from Asus

or B550-A Pro from MSI

[iron lantern]

i just want to go to as much as i can to 3k

ill considered going back a step on motherboards

maybe the b550 tomahawk

just need to have the tenkeys

2x16 or 4x8 ram

typically, 3200 cl16 is cheaper than 3600 cl18

and that 2x16 is cheaper than 4x8

[kindred temple]

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=3485

Im sooner going for Ducky than leopold, but im a spectacularly stubborn Ducky stud.

Fair, but a high end one is always a DIY kit or overpriced

And personally i still trust Ducky at value price.

laymans wont tell the difference until it actually bloody die

And besides

I squeezed a watercooling on this, dont ruin me

[iron lantern]

Cherry brown very thoccy

[kindred temple]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jYcVj2 @iron lantern

But yeah

if this is gonna be your first build

dont

[iron lantern]

not a watercooling fan at all

the risk is too high for a couple degrees

especially since these new gen gpus have rather good thermals with just air cooled

[kindred temple]

5900X idle

[fervent granite]

Ftfy https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pzyZht

[kindred temple]

And i mean it was just excersise in excess

[kindred temple]

Adapang wants to know your location

[fervent granite]

[kindred temple]

Like legit, its just so ass that sometimes the same behavior applies even under load

But yeah, its not nessesary

because undervolting exists and AMD can take far less volts than stock.

But still, id rather a far better valued 360mm rad

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3D8yGq Out of ideas to make this better other than making myself look like a tosser

[jovial tide]

That MSI B550A PRO is extremely valuable

[kindred temple]

[iron lantern]

way too much storage and shorted out the budget for some good ram

[kindred temple]

Ripjawz binning is still far better than whatever value brand is on the market short of Crucial

[jovial tide]

Decent build sid

I would buy AOC freesync though for 300$

Yep lots of AOC freesync 27 inch monitors around that price

[kindred temple]

Adata sometimes runs Nanya.

I have an XPG gammix before

[jovial tide]

AOC CQ27G2 27" Super Curved Frameless Gaming Monitor QHD 2K

Like this one

[kindred temple]

Yes until you realize that AOC CQ has a massively disposable price tag

[jovial tide]

This one's very well made, they even guarantee 0 dead pixels

[kindred temple]

Like if you got really low of a budget

[jovial tide]

350 vs 500

[kindred temple]

like sub 300

just go for this

[jovial tide]

his build had a 500$ monitor

[kindred temple]

his?

[jovial tide]

I don't dare to rate yours xD

Besides I'm an idiot I would build something like a Corsair cooler + 5600x + B550A Pro + Trident Z 4x8 3600MHz (for AMD series) + some high end graphics card + Evo 970 Pro + A 300-350$ monitor like the one above + some popular case like 4000D or one of the Lian Li ones.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mZwHXb

This is what I would build

and no Claire you can't compare it to your price xD becuase you put 700 for the same GPU in there

[iron lantern]

uhh

3080 msrp is 700 bucks...

if ur getting a 3080 ti...

thatd 1500 msrp

[kindred temple]

No, thats the MSRP of 3090

Also no

dont pay average scalper price,

Pay the lower end of the bracket.

Around 8-900$.

[iron lantern]

western digital is a shit of a storage

tbh

[kindred temple]

And even then, i would tell the seller to go fuck themselves

[jovial tide]

😐

[kindred temple]

also, 1TB HDD

[iron lantern]

why

2tb hdd if ur just gonna game

[kindred temple]

10$ more and you get 2TB

[jovial tide]

2TB is more than enough space for a normal user

[iron lantern]

data dump ur memes and hentai

[kindred temple]

The guy picked 1TB hdd

[jovial tide]

Also WD doesn't have 2TB 7200

[kindred temple]

i have to point that out

[iron lantern]

dont go for WD then...

[kindred temple]

And why would that matter?

[iron lantern]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mwrYcf/seagate-barracuda-computer-2-tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st2000dm008

[kindred temple]

their 2TB 5400 is CMR

[iron lantern]

literally cant go wrong with this

[kindred temple]

yeah

or go seagate

And i mean

[iron lantern]

seagate makes the best price to storage too

[kindred temple]

if you wanna go even lower

[iron lantern]

without having a tainted reputation

[kindred temple]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fDRYkX this is what i would build

[iron lantern]

intel build in 2021?

[kindred temple]

1350$, and sometimes even lower.

Once i got it down to 1280$

[kindred temple]

CPU wont matter in 1440p as i say

its gonna be still GPU handed

[iron lantern]

still...

ur losing performance

if u want to not lose that much performance

go for a i7

[kindred temple]

https://youtu.be/PSxuiWih_Z8 Are you really though?

[jovial tide]

Well I would still go for WD

I'm a fan of both MSI and WD for long time

[iron lantern]

no...

[jovial tide]

And yeah this would cost much less if you can actually wait and buy the graphics card at the right time

[iron lantern]

WD make shit nvme plus hdd

[jovial tide]

nvme plus hdd?

[kindred temple]

Their CMR is decent, so does their SATA 2.5 inchers SSD

[iron lantern]

meaning they make shit ssds and hdd

[kindred temple]

WD kinda Andyson'd themselves

[jovial tide]

nvme plus hdd

[kindred temple]

they make good quality stuff and they fuck themselves over by releasing shit after shit

[iron lantern]

especially with telling customers what their parts actually are

[jovial tide]

Can't find it in there. They have caviar blue but not the normal one.

[iron lantern]

radeon

[jovial tide]

I mean we're talking hard drive hard drive hard drive

@iron lantern how much data do u have right now in all ur disks?

be honest

yep, exactly my point too

[kindred temple]

Still, keeping GPU static means that every result change is only caused by CPU implementation

[jovial tide]

1-2TB is like a warehouse for my few boxes

[iron lantern]

gaming laptop currently

[jovial tide]

ok still how much data do u have?

like if you add that to your external even

[iron lantern]

dont have one

im approach that 90% benchmark with 4 games

[jovial tide]

how much disk space do you currently use?

[iron lantern]

1 big, 2 medium sized, 1 small

[kindred temple]

Most exHDDs are not even SATA compatible...

[iron lantern]

500 gb

[jovial tide]

yep wd is all 5400rpm

[iron lantern]

ew

what

why even get that then...

[jovial tide]

see?

you dont even wanna say how much disk u use

then u start saying dumb shit like wd is trash, 1tb is not enough hdd

[iron lantern]

pardon?

literally all i have

[jovial tide]

500GB, I currently have 250GB

And what games do you wanna play on next one?

[iron lantern]

dude, u download just warzone,

[jovial tide]

Like the ones you would buy/install instantly

[iron lantern]

wdym

this contributes nothing to the 2tb hdd argument

[jovial tide]

So if you bought the PC now, what games would you instantly install on it?

It does though

[iron lantern]

Gta5, Rising Storm, Post Scriptum, Wargames, gotta go through my epic library

keep in mind this is 430 gb

already

likely all in my ssd

data dumping

money goz brr

u just use hdd for data dumping

[jovial tide]

gta5's a 100, warzone most 300-400, rising storm 23GB

This adds up to like 600GB

[iron lantern]

city skylines

oh yea

my gta5 has like 10gb of mods btw

i gotta finish hitman 1

[jovial tide]

city skylines 4GB

[iron lantern]

watch dogs 2

[jovial tide]

27

so all of these add up to like 600-700MB

[iron lantern]

mb

yes

[jovial tide]

gb

[iron lantern]

gta5 only 100mb

extreme compressed mobile gaem

[jovial tide]

xd

old games won't really need to be installed on SSD

[iron lantern]

u think so?

gta5 ran so much better on ssd than hdd

[jovial tide]

yep yep. some of them don't have much loadtime

[iron lantern]

and its approaching 8 yr old

[jovial tide]

well gta's different

[iron lantern]

so with some many other triple A

[jovial tide]

what gta was back then is what warzone is now

it's unique

[iron lantern]

if u get a 2tb u basically have unlimited storage for data dumping

ur ssd doesnt junk up with random garbo

[jovial tide]

well my argument is, you won't ever have that much data to dump

[iron lantern]

ud think

[hearty stirrup]

:p im regretting my 1tb hdd 2tb is the perfect size

[iron lantern]

seagate hdd is a 7200rpm, 2tb for 55 bucks

literally 20 extra dollars

[jovial tide]

good price

[iron lantern]

for another WD

thats double storage

[jovial tide]

fair point

[hearty stirrup]

250/500gb ssd for all the programs dump all the games on hdd

[jovial tide]

you can get 2TB SSD + 2TB HDD

[iron lantern]

nah

2tb ssd because extremely pricey

[jovial tide]

Well all your games add up to nearly 1TB

[iron lantern]

yea

ik

plus u only have roughly 930 gb

cuz windows take 70 gb

[jovial tide]

You can always move them to HDD though

[iron lantern]

no...

[jovial tide]

Like if you need extra space in the ssd for new games and u dont have

[iron lantern]

windows should not be inside a hdd

[jovial tide]

games not windows

[iron lantern]

thats just committing brain transplant to smooth brain

[jovial tide]

you can move your games in ssd to hdd if u dont regularly play them to open up space

[iron lantern]

for some indie games, you could

but thats just extra time spent

[jovial tide]

I dont get ur point

you say you know the ssd will be filled up. and then you say no, won't move games to hdd ever.

[iron lantern]

it is

1tb ssd and a 2tb hdd is just fine

2tb ssd and 2tb hdd is like if ur into just video editing

even then

u need like 10 tb of hdd

[hearty stirrup]

buying a 4tb drive instead of 2x2 saves like 15$ is it worth it

[iron lantern]

keep in mind hdd gets worse as you pack it up

its not as noticeable with sdds until u reach that 90% benchmark

[hearty stirrup]

my 1 and only nvme slot is filled sata ssds alright?

[iron lantern]

i mean, unless u pack it with viruses

idk how u use ur storage

[hearty stirrup]

then rma it

[iron lantern]

10 yr olds who want free vbucks if thats still their thing

[iron lantern]

ur losing performance per the buck

amd just has the better performance per buck

no

im only amd 5th gen guy

5600x or 5900x

5800x is just a cpu for general budgeted work

but not really performance for the buck

it is

game wise, its like

yea the i7 is the only thing intel has that beats its counter part

[kindred temple]

Are you really though?
Intel comes in at 285$ including motherboard
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hfJkrr
AMD comes in at 377$ with motherboard
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MDYwht

[jovial tide]

Sid how does 11800H compare?

For a laptop cpu

[iron lantern]

u sent the same link

[kindred temple]

I fucking hate Microsoft and their buggy ass clipboard

[jovial tide]

Well I've been waiting on my laptop for 2 months now wanna know how good is the cpu

[iron lantern]

cuz that i5 is 10th gen...

[kindred temple]

If we take Anandtech's chart of blender

[kindred temple]

I know, and what?

11th gen performs literally the same

[iron lantern]

exactly my point

[kindred temple]

for more

[jovial tide]

alienware m15 r6

[kindred temple]

thats why i go with 10 on that build

[iron lantern]

ur using 10th gen to compete with 5th gen ryzen

thats why intel fucked up this year

[jovial tide]

like 3070 + 11800H + 1tb ssd + 240hz gsync monitor 15 inch + 16gig 3200mhz

[iron lantern]

cuz it was literally no progression in their generation

[kindred temple]

And i take advantage from that

[iron lantern]

u could

[kindred temple]

because DDR5 is coming in 12th gen alder lake and 5th gen zen (6000)

[iron lantern]

the power consumption i just realized

[kindred temple]

Yeah and theyll also support 12VO and ill be finally get to aus, i honestly dont believe any rumors for now even from intel themselves

[iron lantern]

stock amd chips cant compete with 10th gen in performance per buck

[kindred temple]

Im not done

10 seconds delta. for 92$ saving

what can you do in 10 seconds

[slender trellis]

Is the new Intel will support GDDR memories

[kindred temple]

How about gaming?

4FPS loss, 92$ saving

[iron lantern]

gpu

?

[kindred temple]

If you can tell the difference between 4 fps i gotta say that you dont belong here, you should go to work to Blur Buster

[kindred temple]

2080Ti

And this is Ian fucking Cutress, ill sooner die than to distrust him honestly.

[iron lantern]

2nd game is red dead

keep in mind

using the i9 10th

[kindred temple]

Testtubers

[iron lantern]

oh yea right

wait for more

[kindred temple]

But still, youre comparing completely different GPUs between each other

in CPU testing, the only variable that matters is well...

the CPU.

[iron lantern]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ump6pGssXg

so when u compare a 2080 ti thats closer to the release of the i9 10th

[kindred temple]

Who cares about the GPU in the benchmark, as long as its completely overkill and are the same across every system, it still going to work.

eliminate GPU bottleneck, thats the only purpose of a GPU in a benchmark.

[iron lantern]

and have the highest possible fps

2080 ti rarely is able to go above 100 in red dead

random? sure

but the more collected data the better

[kindred temple]

^

[iron lantern]

im just saying

the 2080 ti is outdated for cpu comparisons

especially with newer alternatives for testing

[kindred temple]

And besides, i despise testtubers like those. No hardware shown on cam, no driver version, game patch version, and windows updates stated

and sometimes

completely arbitrary gameplay

[iron lantern]

its better than just a graph with no information to go off of

who knows if they are just standing in a house

or roaming around

[kindred temple]

because 3000 series is not out when 10th gen intel and 5000 series zen is released?

[slender trellis]

Linus is a clickbait

His freaking smile scared me

Its annoying

[iron lantern]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n0_UcBxnpk

right

[slender trellis]

I agree with nexus dude

[iron lantern]

LTT is too big for the information he puts out

[kindred temple]

[slender trellis]

He is a sellout

[kindred temple]

Ur mom is a sellout 😎

[iron lantern]

ur dad sold u out

[slender trellis]

Im talking about ltt

[kindred temple]

Okay im being a massive troll there

dont take me seriously

[iron lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-pilled-gif-19289988

[slender trellis]

no linus face here

[slender trellis]

Gah

[iron lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cry-sad-cry-linus-linus-tech-gif-22562819

[kindred temple]

He gonna post black screen

[pliant lynx]

k

k

[kindred temple]

Report to twitter for misinformation

[pliant lynx]

he uses chrome

talk about optimisation

[iron lantern]

opera gx

browser built by gamers for gamers

wait i heard that somewhere

ohhh

razer also uses that

[kindred temple]

Opera is still built on chromium

wrong browser for optimization

[iron lantern]

tbh theres really nothing good to use for optimization

twitter is shit in general

[pliant lynx]

Huawei

[kindred temple]

Manjaro for phone

[iron lantern]

Nokia for phone

old, reliable, cant break

windows as a phone os

[pliant lynx]

linux

[iron lantern]

sure that went well

[quartz kayak]

My mom calls my pc tower cpu

[kindred temple]

Misnomer

Still, 400$ for what anyone can do in 3h

Honestly piece of shit

Should i report this to Shopify? They really love to take down scam services like this.

I mean this chat exists

I wouldnt trust any virtual OC session either

You can never tell the silicon binning across a screen

:Bruh:

Even worse

[kindred temple]

I just put my trust in the boost

[brave field]

manual oc is dying

You get more out of overclocking a monitor than an extra 100mhz on your PBO-tuned 5600x

[kindred temple]

Until Intel fucking kills K sku and finally releases a revised turbo boosts thats not time based, it wont die fully.

[jovial tide]

manual oc is dying
Everything's fun and games until your motherboard decides to use a "better" ram timing for you out of nowhere xd

[fervent granite]

You know how each distro has its group of people maintaining it? If anyone can contribute to the project, who's the person that decides what does and doesn't get implemented?

[kindred temple]

Depends.

Directly to the kernel itself is still going to Linus i believe.

But for distros, go to the dev contact.

[fervent granite]

Guess that means there's a hierarchy in the dev groups then?

[kindred temple]

perhaps?

[jovial tide]

It differs from distro to distro

[civic cloud]

nintendo

[civic cloud]

https://gyazo.com/7ff2a040fb9daaf72259fb0710fd1dea getting mixed signals there ngl

[cold elbow]

Why

[lost fossil]

he says this is fine

but then also says stop doing this

[cold elbow]

He said its fine but not the best

Mounting it like that won't hurt your performance or pump
It will potentially make extra noise.

[kindred temple]

I love my AIO making snoring noise to hide my sleep apnea and blame my pc

[cold elbow]

I hate my hard drive noise

Even when i bought the quietest

[lost fossil]

bruh the hgst helium drives are so fucking loud

[cold elbow]

And it's sitting in a proper cage

So u can tell how quiet my pc is

[kindred temple]

Well get all SSD

[cold elbow]

Broke af

And saving for a gpu

[kindred temple]

Dont buy GPU, get SSD

But yeah, get a GPU when the price drop.

[lost fossil]

https://streamable.com/xsuh5h

[cold elbow]

Nas?

[kindred temple]

Software RAID

[cold elbow]

My nas seever is chilling outside of the room

[lost fossil]

no raid

[kindred temple]

BRUH

EVEN WORSE

[cold elbow]

[lost fossil]

i don't like the idea of losing everything if a drive fails

but i also don't like the idea of having half the storage

[cold elbow]

U can make them two drives

And not half the storage

Just the parity drives

[lost fossil]

effort 🚮

[cold elbow]

Do u have any sort of backup then

[lost fossil]

no

but these are all torrent drives anyway

[cold elbow]

Living life on the edge

[lost fossil]

out of all of these drives only one is in a questionable condition

[cold elbow]

I have files on my pc that are backed to the home server
Then they get backed up to an off site home server

Idk, drives suddenly fail

[lost fossil]

hasn't happened to me yet

it's been 11 years

[cold elbow]

"Yet"

[lost fossil]

yet

[cold elbow]

Lets tag omar and drag him crazy about this

[kindred temple]

@ Omar#0047 ivan is a pepega

or as he says: 🇵🇪🇵🇪🇬🇦

[lost fossil]

that's a lot

[jovial tide]

dayum what kinda files you store that have such importance

backup is good tho, no matter what

[cold elbow]

Mostly photos of trips and family, school-related stuff and whatever else is important

[analog wharf]

true

[analog wharf]

yea totally i'll trust you

[pliant lynx]

[kindred temple]

Yeah because custom build doesnt exists

especially for LG and Sony

You can easily load 7.0 on S2

[lost fossil]

my s2 doesn't turn on sadge

[quartz kayak]

Im pretty sure that the iphones are fine since all of them have ios 10 up if im not mistaken

[cold elbow]

@small bear switch to new session

Then make it empty

[silent mason]

Ah how far we've come.

[cold elbow]

My s3 has Android 10

[silent mason]

My S20 has Android 11

Well, S20 FE

[quartz kayak]

My razer with android 9

[analog wharf]

damn u have a razer phone too

[quartz kayak]

Yeah, im changing phone tho

This one has too many bugs and glitches

I did lineageOS on this one but it still is meh

So im prob upgrading

[cold elbow]

Razer phone

[jovial tide]

Pixel 5's pretty good

[cold elbow]

Yeah being a beta tester for google must be good

[jovial tide]

No problems whatsoever, other than occasional listening to music while people are speaking with TV on

It's a bit too expensive if you wanna buy it straight away, but 3 and 4 are still ok

[cold elbow]

Idk what's the point of a pixel

For the same price u get a better phone

Better build quality

More features in hardware and software

And the same software support

[jovial tide]

interesting which one?

[cold elbow]

I could make a long list of features that Samsung made then google implemented it later to android

[jovial tide]

[strong saffron]

Only reason to get a Pixel is their camera quality and the OS imo

[jovial tide]

What same software support

[cold elbow]

Both gives you up to 3 years of software updates

[jovial tide]

Samsung says goodbye to their phones after 1.5 years to 2 years

Well says you.

[strong saffron]

I'd never use a Samsung I hate their bloat but I also wouldn't spend that much on a Pixel either

[lost fossil]

i want the shaomi mix 4

[jovial tide]

Back in the days both my S3 and S6 expired after 2 years

[strong saffron]

$300 phone with Pixel ROM

[jovial tide]

And not all people buy the phone on release date

[lost fossil]

as a proud used-to-be-the-owner of mix 1

[cold elbow]

The whole point of a pixel phone should be the software support
And they offer it like the rest
So as @strong saffron said, it's about the camera and if you really into that get an iPhone

[jovial tide]

Samsung doesn't even come close to Pixel

Not even remotely close when it comes to software

[cold elbow]

Split screen added to Samsung s3 back in 2013

[jovial tide]

I'm not talking features

[cold elbow]

When Andriod implemented that?

That's

Software

[jovial tide]

Performance dude, and android version

[cold elbow]

Android version is just a number if it doesn't come with new features

[jovial tide]

Well it's pointless talking about it at this point

[cold elbow]

I bought a Huawei mate 9 with Android 7
Android took it 3 years to catch up with what it offered

[jovial tide]

Everyone who had older samsung phones knows how much they get slower over time

[cold elbow]

Screen recording

Editing screenshots

Scroll screenshots

Customizable UI

And a lot more

Im not saying Samsung phones are the best or good

They have yheir flaws

But they also have good things

A pixel only has the camera

[silent mason]

I haven't had a Samsung that long so can't speak on slowness over time

I came from Nokia

[jovial tide]

Well my pixel 5 disagrees

[cold elbow]

I have an S10

It works as fast as day one

Running Android 11

[jovial tide]

When did it come out again?

[cold elbow]

And i get software update every month

[silent mason]

S10 is about 2 years old I think

[pliant lynx]

me being huawei

for 3yrs

[jovial tide]

So come back Ms Melon when the phone is about 3 years old