tech-coding-math

[quartz kayak]

Me looking for the pc

[vapid basin]

yea so I’m sure you know the glue gets weaker rly fast

[lilac fable]

you think i would nede to buy seperate leds for both my desk and monitor?

[vapid basin]

hehe no pc, powered by air

[vapid basin]

that’d be better and safe

[quartz kayak]

*remembers jimi is poor and has laptop

[lilac fable]

ok thanks

[vapid basin]

I wouldn’t mix em two

[vapid basin]

Fr

[lilac fable]

bluetooth pc

but thanks cya

[vapid basin]

but can your pc run valorant on 250+ fps 😈

[vapid basin]

np g

[jovial tide]

how does it measure game latency?

[vapid basin]

it’s a built in feature within the game @jovial tide

but they have so many of these features that the game glitches and everytime you restart you gotta activate it

[jovial tide]

developers get bored xD

yeah anyways conclusion a good vpn like Nord has openvpn and you can even get speed gain from it if your isp throttles you

and worst case scenario using pptp you won't notice any speed loss

[vapid basin]

I see

[jovial tide]

I got a question guys

[kindred temple]

Ask ahead

[cold elbow]

She probably forgot

[jovial tide]

So I have a monitor ready for if I get the PC, but it's like £115 so the monitor and PC would cost £630 (I will send the link to the monitor in a second), do you think there would be a cheaper alternative which was roughly the same

[cold elbow]

A monitor is a huge part of the experience

And it's probably the part that u won't upgrade for years

[jovial tide]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07FBVDRWL

[jovial tide]

Oh, alright

[cold elbow]

Looks fine and pretty

Especially when it comes with display port

[jovial tide]

Okayy, I was only thinking that if there was a cheaper my parents would be more likely to say yes but it would probably only be like £15 cheaper tbh

[cold elbow]

Was it the dell one?

[jovial tide]

AOC

[cold elbow]

Give me the link

[jovial tide]

I haven't looked for any cheaper or whatever

I've just found one so lemme show

[cold elbow]

It should be ips and comes with display port

[jovial tide]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08ZZ17DZQ

[cold elbow]

Yup No display port

🚮

[jovial tide]

Oh I thought it said display

Nvm

[kindred temple]

Huawei display that doesnt have an internet support to phone home to china

Odd thing you found there

[cold elbow]

Haha

[jovial tide]

Wdum

I'm computer dumb

[cold elbow]

It's not about computers

It's a joke about the company wanting to steal your data

[jovial tide]

Ohh

Oh I just reread it and get it now lmao

[jovial tide]

Hi all, I'd like to learn programming with the language Python, how do I start?

[pliant lynx]

stackoverflow

[strong saffron]

https://automatetheboringstuff.com/

Also look up Corey Schafer on YouTube

[oblique imp]

sm

[coral knot]

what does a SD card do?

i need a SD Card 64 GB Class 10 for school but idk what it does

[kindred temple]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SD_card

[coral knot]

is it capacity?

[kindred temple]

What do you mean?

[coral knot]

like is it SSD

or HDD

Cause i am not really good in pc’s or that stuff but my school says i need this for my laptop

And idk wich one to buy because some ar €8 and some €20

@kindred temple

[kindred temple]

Far from it

think of it like its a USB

but thin as a debit card and you dont wanna put them around kids because theyre a fucking choking hazard.

Ask your teacher why they specifically want SD cards, as a flash drive is far more practical, and have a better read and write speed consistency.

[coral knot]

ahhh i know it already i think

its for cameras isnt it?

@kindred temple

[kindred temple]

Yeah, mostly cameras

But its in a lot of things.

Also phones, but phone manufacturers understandably starts sacking them off.

[coral knot]

Ahh already i thought the wrong way because i thought it would make my rendering in premiere pro faster

[kindred temple]

Breh

[coral knot]

i thought it was RAM

[kindred temple]

XD

[coral knot]

😂

But now ik ty

and btw do you know if i can upgrade my ssd for a macbook? i can do a external hdd 1GB i already have that but in the product information it says i cant expand the capacity of the laptop intern

cant i do it with a card?

[kindred temple]

Depends on what year

2012 and below i think still uses SATA/SAS port and the HDD should be swappable, but you gonna need to make a bootable drive to boot

And MacOS bootables are hard to make

2013-2015 runs m.2 nvme

[sweet compass]

https://www.samsung.com/lv/monitors/gaming/odyssey-g5-32-inch-144hz-1ms-curved-lc32g55tqwrxen/

[lost fossil]

i heard this before "what is a vhs"

what the fuck

[coral knot]

is a m1 chip and 8gb ram like the same as 16gb on a windows laptop??

[civic cloud]

no?

8gb RAM are 8GB RAm

and 16 are 16

[coral knot]

ye but like performance

is there a big difference

[pliant lynx]

depends

on which processor u comparing on windows

[coral knot]

i7

@pliant lynx

[pliant lynx]

i7 what

[kindred temple]

[coral knot]

idfk

i couldve chose for school a i7 lenovo laptop with 16gb ram or macbook m1 8gb

[kindred temple]

Oh

Well then whats your preferred OS?

M1 wins big in overall efficiency, but if youre more of a windows guy youre not gonna use mac to the fullest.

[lost fossil]

i7 920

[jovial tide]

Everything's more expensive with a mac

[kindred temple]

Well atleast now theyre not just hot ass Zenbook

[strong saffron]

The YouTube account of one of the major TV networks in my country got hacked and they're live streaming a crypto scam lmao

[river lantern]

hello guys

you guys are into crypto and stuff?

[kindred temple]

No

[iron lantern]

i think u meant apple logo

[jovial tide]

Nope everything you wanna do in it

Forget the apple logo...

[iron lantern]

anything with an apple logo means a 50% increase in msrp

[fervent granite]

And quality

[jovial tide]

Well if you can call thermal throttling and liquid damages because of little bit of humidity in the air - quality, yeah 50% more quality

[fervent granite]

To be fair they have no choice but to throttle cpus, unless people want to burn the chip

Then again they’ve always had shit cooling systems so

[analog wharf]

m1 mac is actually pretty good in terms of performance imo its just limited by macos which overall is a bad os compared to the likes of windows or linux

[analog wharf]

lol true

[cold elbow]

At least mac os isn't filled with bloatware

[analog wharf]

ehh i guess i can agree that windows is filled with pre installed bloatware that you don't really need

[cold elbow]

And telemetry

[analog wharf]

it just sucks that its apple so of course they tend to keep things simple ruining alot of customisation etc

i would consider customisation a huge part and imo it's better than iphone customisation for sure since well its still a pc/laptop they generally have better customisation than phones but mac isn't nowhere near windows or hell linux that has alot of customisation

[latent drum]

You you have 240hz monitor?

[vapid basin]

nah lmao got me fucked up, them bitches expensive

[brave field]

@river lantern I am!

macOS is very full of bloatware

the .dmg installer/ISO when converted is 20gb compressed

[fervent granite]

macos isn't limiting imo, it can do your everyday tasks just fine

What makes it limiting is the fact that software devs don't like releasing for macos which might limit what you can do, that's not to say the os is bad

But yeah macos isn't exactly made to be customisable, they really do try to keep things uniform in terms of design which isn't a bad thing imo

[upbeat hill]

Is anyone here a hacker I want to interview you

[brave field]

macOS deserves better software support

its almost like Apple is intentionally handicapping it though

[rugged pelican]

Guys my pc is saying preparing automatic repair

What do i do

[brave field]

What events lead to automatic repair?

[rugged pelican]

Idk was just playing a game i alt f4 2 x then my pc was stuck so i hold the power button for 5 secs

And that was it

[jovial tide]

rip something got corrupted there

[rugged pelican]

So how long is it going to take

[brave field]

Depends on what the issue is

[rugged pelican]

Give me some issues

[brave field]

If you don't really know, its not easy to tell

For some, its won't finish at all

[rugged pelican]

Its been doijg this i left it there for a while now

[jovial tide]

send us a picture or screenshot

[rugged pelican]

Ok

I dont have permission ill dm

[jovial tide]

How old is the laptop? and is it HDD or SSD?

[rugged pelican]

Hmm

[jovial tide]

My first guess here is HDD went boom

[rugged pelican]

3 years now

Oof

[fervent granite]

linux too for that matter, we really gotta stop relying on windows so much

[jovial tide]

Giorno does it have CD/DVD player?

[rugged pelican]

Yup

No nvm

[jovial tide]

You might wanna boot it from Windows live cd/usb or Linux live versions

See if you can even access the hard drive

[rugged pelican]

I cant

No other way that to turn on or use f1-12

I can maybe reset it

[jovial tide]

try delete

[rugged pelican]

Factory set oof

[jovial tide]

hold delete after start I mean

[rugged pelican]

I have so much good dafa there

[jovial tide]

not factory reset

[rugged pelican]

Oh ok

[brave field]

@fervent graniteThe state of it all is just so sad

[rugged pelican]

What will it do

Im so scared to try that

Lol

[brave field]

Apple kills off any software support not from Adobe, Linux can't get it because Canonical vs purists vs the distros that are weird for the sake of being weird, Free/OpenBSD won't be getting it because the user experience is terrible both pre- and post-desktop without some large company's help, etc.

[jovial tide]

dont worry

[rugged pelican]

Ok o did iy

[fervent granite]

You reckon the 32-bit drop made it worse?

[brave field]

For macOS?

Its part of the main reason macOS has very little software

[rugged pelican]

I dont have a apple

Windows 10 lenovo

[fervent granite]

Just fell like that move was a disincentive for developing software on that platform

[rugged pelican]

Also recently my pc has been slowing down

[brave field]

Guys, lets use x86->Nope, let's use PowerPC-> nope, x86 again-> hey, let's discontinue OpenGL support-> hey, lets drop support for 32bit-> hey, let's block Vulkan apps and all DirectX translation layers->hey, lets start using ARM

Unless you're Adobe (who is being paid to port their software every two years), its a nightmare making any native apps for macOS

[rugged pelican]

I have a 64 bit

[fervent granite]

Eh I mean rosetta 2 is pretty good as is so arm wouldn't be an issue imo, we just got to get people onboard period

[rugged pelican]

Nothing happened

[brave field]

You pretty much HAVE to write Electron or Java apps if you want things to work on macOS for more than 8 months

[rugged pelican]

After holding delete after power on

[brave field]

macOS used to have quite a few developers on board

[rugged pelican]

[brave field]

A huge selection of games from 2005 to 2011 had macOS releases

You'd think it was as popular as Windows from how many there were

[jovial tide]

I'm gonna msg you for it if you want more help

[brave field]

None of them run today

[fervent granite]

Partly why I still run mojave

Just in case I run into a gem

[brave field]

Native Linux apps would be nice, with WSL2 having desktop GUI support now, and most BSD-based OSes like macOS getting ports of the big programs

but then you have to support Wayland vs x, SystemD vs openrc vs init vs whatever Torvald's biggest fan wrote last yea rand documented only in Russian

[fervent granite]

xquartz is good enough /s

[rugged pelican]

Lol

Oof

You guys still solving

[brave field]

I think we may be doomed, John

[rugged pelican]

Doomed?

[jovial tide]

Pfff, I hate helping people who have absolutely no idea about computers man :/

[rugged pelican]

I always use to imagine
Me:you need math to do a pc
Aliens:whats maths?

To make

No do

[jovial tide]

Help me help me help me help me, let's see if it is your hdd - go to boot menu send me sceenshot -not sure about that there is personal stuff here 😐 cool story bro

[rugged pelican]

Lol

Isnt your product key personal

[brave field]

His bootloader is named after his SSN, he can't share that!

no

[jovial tide]

Is it though?

[brave field]

and isn't in your boot menu

[jovial tide]

Old boot menus have nothing

[brave field]

just playing around, but I feel you

[jovial tide]

It's one of thse laptop blue old ones

[rugged pelican]

Lol

[brave field]

There's only so much you can do though

IF they prefer the hard way, typing out and formatting the entire screen into Discord, let them do that work

[jovial tide]

Well yeah

But as some point if they have no computer knowledge it's not fun to help anymore you know

Like it feels like working at a helpdesk job speaking to slow brained humans which isn't fun.

Anyways @rugged pelican your best option is to ask a professional to check/fix it for you

[brave field]

was that comment about a user in here? 😦

"slow-brained" is mean!

[jovial tide]

No cookie no no no

In no shape or form Giorno is that

But I've dealt with people like that before and had similar feelings

[rugged pelican]

Ok

[brave field]

@jovial tide Have you spent a lot of time in servers like BAPO or the sort?

[jovial tide]

No

[brave field]

your messages read a lot like one of the 2018 BAPO regulars, hmm

[jovial tide]

What's that?

[brave field]

r/buildapc discord server

which thankfully isn't like the actual subreddit

[jovial tide]

I see, no

I don't know much about building computers

But I know the essentials to fix people's PCs

[silent mason]

Err, I need to check that out I see, I have contact with the BAPC admins

Also I'm so glad I got sent this controller profile...

Makes using my t16k on Star Citizen so nice.

[brave field]

I spent way too much time there, and the experience was wild

Back when things were good there, really miss it in a way

but when it got frustrating, it sucked

[silent mason]

I have all the equipment I need for SC though. Just flight sim equipment to go.

And it turns out thrustmaster did not announce a new yoke today.

[brave field]

Some sorts of troubleshooting are just easier in person, and nobody is in the right or the wrong for those situations

[jovial tide]

it's enjoyable discussing and helping people who are passionate about computers

but when someone asks for help over and over and over online, you try to help; they don't give you info (not private info, just regular info) and blame you for not :"being able to help" them. it just sucks

[silent mason]

Welcome to tech support in general

[brave field]

Its normal to be frustrated, but its also a relatively-normal situation

[jovial tide]

this is what when they say something like personal. I usually say I understand your concerns and agree with them please call someone to help you in person.

It's actually really good in most cases; nobody imo should accept a random person's help on the internet. and nobody should ask for help from them.

if you don't know much it's 100% a valid concern

but if the problem is much simpler like how do I reset my windows and install all drivers? or msi dragon center sucks what do I do? well story's different

[silent mason]

Wonder when thrustmaster are gonna announce their yoke

[brave field]

oh oh, did you get your C# stuff going?

[silent mason]

Not yet.

[brave field]

ah

[silent mason]

Got a bit to get on top of first

[jovial tide]

C++ > C# xD change my mind

[silent mason]

I'm not trying to change your mind, but this is a carryover from when I wanted to develop for Windows Phone. Plus the chat bot I use for Twitch is coded in C#

[jovial tide]

Same things can be coded in c++

[silent mason]

Yes well the bot developers aren't going to up and everything and redo it in C#

Plus, I've dabbled in C# before so I have some familiarity with it. I don't want to start over with C++, at least not yet

[jovial tide]

You're saving yourself lots of headache

[fathom ruin]

@brave field could you possibly dm me when you have time

[kindred temple]

How about you just ask it here

[brave field]

C++ is nasty

Stuff like std::cout<< look gross

C is where its at

[kindred temple]

Scratch

[jovial tide]

What's wrong with cout cin xD

[brave field]

It just looks bad lol

[jovial tide]

We have c++20

[brave field]

Its syntax is so different from every other "C-style" language

[jovial tide]

lots of things have changed so far

[brave field]

give me printf() or give me death!

[jovial tide]

yeah they made it different and much easier - but as functional

also object oriented programming is a good plus

[silent mason]

What about coding in Malbolge?

[rugged pelican]

Preparing automatic repair

[jovial tide]

is 300 nits brightness good

[kindred temple]

Bare minimum, but brightness is literally only 1% of the battle.

[pliant lynx]

u do not want be too bright too

else myopia

[jovial tide]

will 165 hz be good for ps4

I believe consoles only use 30-60 fps

yea but the the tv i play on is 30 fps

most games are 30

yea

GTA for example will have an enhanced edition for PS5 60

But response time makes it more interesting 😉

i need a monitor to game in my room , cause i have been gaming on my tv

If you just want it for consoles buy a normal one 24 inch 60Hz

k

thx for tip

But if you wanna connect a pc to it later get 144Hz

Also my recommended brand: AOC

oh ok

[jagged lark]

Is c++ good to code in as a beginner?
I know basic code like what, if, else and nothing else used in game development

[cold elbow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/589548768517685278/881664029523853322/20210829_231725.jpg

[civic cloud]

cursed

but the smoll noctua fans are cute

[kindred temple]

@civic cloud ur cute

[civic cloud]

no u

[jovial tide]

I would recommend C for the first language to anyone who is enthusiastic about programming and is also a beginner.

mostly because C is a very small language with great uses and also many other programming languages have adopted from it.

[jovial tide]

C is for grandfathers

Get this: https://deitel.com/c-plus-plus-20-for-programmers/

[jovial tide]

its not a fashion to get outdated bro!

why people keep that mindset

Says you xD

You're not even a programmer or anything close bro

[jovial tide]

says the pro god-tier programmer

C++ is more user friendly, as functional on every level, and has object orientation when you need it

[kindred temple]

:WeirdChamp:

[jovial tide]

ok bro

whatever you say, im not in the mood for it tbh

[latent drum]

What?

Most TVs are 60hz

Since like 2008

[vernal bloom]

Almost half way getting the money so i can build my own pc then just found out u gotta install software/windows and all that crap and am like nah thats long

[kindred temple]

Software is the shortest length compared to research

[wild trench]

xbox game pass for pc is free

[jovial tide]

1$ CAD first month; but it's a subscription you forget to cancel then it's 12$ and 17$ per month

[latent drum]

What

[wild trench]

its currently free for 3 month pc only@latent drum

[latent drum]

How

[jovial tide]

I dont see that here

[latent drum]

I have EA play pro
I wanted to try xbox game pass but idkneed to try it first

[analog wharf]

he says fps anyways, knew i would find someone who doesn't know that fps is different from hz

[latent drum]

well yes
TVs did jump from 24hz to 60hz a big while ago

60 non interlaced

[kindred temple]

[lost fossil]

but you can't play at more than 60 fps on a screen that is incapable of updating more than 60 times a second

[arctic yarrow]

You can. It helps with input latency. However, you cannot visually see past 60 fps on a 60hz screen.

[latent drum]

i think its more a monitor response time

a 60hz can feel better than 100hz if it have a good response time and less ghosting

[jovial tide]

👏

[rugged pelican]

Oh man

Poor laptop

Heheheh

[jovial tide]

finally

[rugged pelican]

Yeah nothing works there

I dont have a system restore(my bad)

I look up commands on yt for this didnt work

Startup repair didnt work

System restore didnt work

Nvm

[rugged pelican]

Its like eveythung got deleted all those cmds and startup repair woulnd work

[jagged lark]

Anyone used geforce now?

And can it play games on shitty laptops

[jovial tide]

it doesn't run GTA but yeah

if you connect to internet using Wifi 5GHz or ethernet cable and speed is more than 50Mbps it;s a great experience

You can basically open your last version of chrome and play on it, it's that simple.

Paid versions have better performance and RTX enabled

[jagged lark]

Since there’s a free trial can i try and game or am I limited to certain games?

[jovial tide]

There's actually free subscription for it my friend

[jagged lark]

I’ll definitely buy the paid version if i enjoy it

[jovial tide]

Less quality + have to stay in que to start the game + 1 hour sessions max

everything else is the same

Give it a try it's really interesting

[jagged lark]

Gotta find my laptop and mouse first lol

[jovial tide]

side note: some companies don't let cloud streaming providers like geforce now to put their games on them. but many games are still on there.

[jagged lark]

Might be a better subscription than ps now but better

[jovial tide]

also you have to own the games on steam/epic to play them on Geforce Now

You don't get any games for free with it, it gives you hardware

[jagged lark]

Well there goes my hopes of trying it

[jovial tide]

do you have any steam/epic games?

[jagged lark]

Lol none

[jovial tide]

there are still free games you can try on there

[jagged lark]

That’s why i was hoping to try it out, thinking its like ps now where you can stream a game without buying it

[jovial tide]

you could technically also get a friend's steam/epic id and try it out with him

[jagged lark]

Guess i’ll stick to console till i have enough for a proper gaming pc

[jovial tide]

ummm

try destiny 2 on it 😉

[jagged lark]

I could ask one of the 50 in my discord but they all seem like console players none pc

Free right?

[jovial tide]

Destiny 2 is free on steam

And a very very good game to test

let me double check

[jagged lark]

Do i need to have it installed or simply in my library?

[jovial tide]

So this is how it works

You install the geforce now application on that laptop

(you can also use chrome itself)

step 2 you make a geforce account and subscribe to free version inside of that

now you can have basically a virtual PC nvidia gives you

step 3 either login to steam account you have or make one

then login to geforce now with it

[jagged lark]

Do demo versions work? Only wanna test out 2 games right now

[jovial tide]

yeah I think so

many games work

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce-now/games/

best FPS to try is Valve games & destiny 2

[jagged lark]

One sec loading up laptop

Lol gotta delete couple things first. Laptops slooow asf

[jovial tide]

Hmmm

Make another win profile then do it there 😉

[jagged lark]

Mainly got visual studio and windows dev kit installed

[rugged pelican]

Ayo i use that

I been using since chapter 1 season 1

Lol ny pc kinda bad so i use it

I also got gta v from epic games free thtas why i play it but not on my laptop

[jovial tide]

GTA V is not in there

[jagged lark]

@rugged pelican how good is your internet and what fps do you get?

Are loading times based on your hard drive speed? Cause i feel like mine will be like a 360

[jovial tide]

If you can watch a movie and watch youtube without problems

you can handle this lol

[jagged lark]

I wanna play 4k @ 120fps

[jovial tide]

Nah as far as I know

Geforce now is 60

and idk about 4k - besides does you laptop even handle 4k??

[jagged lark]

Probably not

[jovial tide]

anyways tell me when you installed GeForce now this might be interesting to you

[jagged lark]

Lol ask me in an hour. Struggling to get vs uninstalled

[civic cloud]

lol

[jagged lark]

49% through uninstall

[jovial tide]

hang in there buddy

[jagged lark]

Intel pentium n3700 @ 1.60GHz, 4GB ram and widows 10 home

Damn I deleted some android thing which was 2.64 gb big

[brave field]

Dalvik runtime/ART?

[jagged lark]

Idk what is was about. Folder just said android

@jovial tide i’ve got it set up

[jovial tide]

ok then let's do this

https://download.nvidia.com/gfnpc/GeForceNOW-release.exe

[jagged lark]

Waiting in queue to play

[jovial tide]

which game?

[jagged lark]

The division

[jovial tide]

it's not a free game :/

it'll log you into steam and ask to buy it

[jagged lark]

I have the trial for it

So will that not work?

[jovial tide]

that will work yeah

if you have the trial on your steam/epic it'll work

[pure ridge]

Banned submissive and breedable snail#1855 (Case #117412) (user notified with a direct message)

[brave field]

Speedcord: THE ONLY library for Discord bots in Python

[jagged lark]

Playing fortnite rn. Hopefully i can get decent frame rate

[jovial tide]

yeah you can easily do that 😉

[jagged lark]

Dayyum fast loading

Idk bout fps cause the drop down tabs covering it

[jovial tide]

hell you can even play these games on tablets :))

GeForce Now is OP

[jagged lark]

😂😂 205 fps

[jovial tide]

it's good isn't it?

also the delay is acceptable if you have good internet

[jagged lark]

Medium settings

[jovial tide]

you can put it higher

For the paid one even higher than that 😉 they use RTX card

[jagged lark]

Well my fps only dropped by 30 with dlss on performance

⬆️ 182 ⬇️170

[jovial tide]

Is that your connection speed?

[jagged lark]

Fps

Connection is way too good for $80 month wifi

[jovial tide]

100Mbps?

[jagged lark]

Fibre broadband

[jagged lark]

@jovial tide do i need steam installed or can i play without it installed

[jovial tide]

for this you dont need anything installed you just need the account

it's like playing on someone else's computer through the internet

register on steam (http://steampowered.com) and just use the account in there and try Destiny 2

It's awesome

[jagged lark]

So I learned i need the game and not the trial

Playing d2 rn. Thought i’d need to have it installed

[jovial tide]

No it's all in the cloud

[jagged lark]

Well ima wait till games go on sale before buying the paid version

Destiny looks shit on my 60hz laptop screen

Anyway to see frame rate? @jovial tide

[jovial tide]

On steam shift + tab -> settings ->

in game then you can enable counter

[jagged lark]

66 fps max on highest settings

Seems i’ve got it capped somewhere as its stuck on 60 constantly

[jovial tide]

idk whats the graphics card

maybe you have vsync on?

[jagged lark]

Yah v sync was on

Getting upto 160 now

[jovial tide]

see it's not bad

it's definitely playable but games are limited

[jagged lark]

And now i see why everyone wants it capped to 120. Jumping all around from 150+ ⬇️ 105

[brave field]

capped meh

VRR and its friends need to be supported on every display

[jagged lark]

So this what a good cpu and gpu do 😂😂

[jovial tide]

Still good Cookie I mean we're trying it on a potato laptop

[brave field]

Freesync/gsync compatible makes drops from 150 to 105 feel very okay

[jovial tide]

We're trying Geforce Now

[brave field]

Geforce Now is beautiful!

[jovial tide]

It's one of the best cloud game streaming services ever made

[brave field]

In the event you do go for your own hardware at some point though, do give Freesync/gsync a try, I mean

might feel better than capping if your refresh rate is high enough

[jagged lark]

Lol give me a couple weeks to wait for games to go on sale and i’ll be playing everyday 10+ hours

[jovial tide]

You like Geforce now Famous X?

[jagged lark]

I’ll be playing it on a tv not monitor

Yeah @jovial tide

[brave field]

Head to the r/freegamefindings subreddit or whenisthenextsteamsale

grab the free EGS promos each week on top of those and you should be able to get something like 12-14 games a month

[jagged lark]

My tv is more than likely capped at 60hz so i’ll be playing at that much fps UNLESS I don’t get screen tearing

[jovial tide]

I think Geforce Now might be limited to 60Hz

you can check the settings page on it for more info (bottom right)

[jagged lark]

Tv’s a 4k @jovial tidehz

Hdmi 1.4

[jovial tide]

GeForce now is capped at 60fps

to your PC

because of their bandwidth limitations

[jagged lark]

So i can still do 100+ fps but in reality only 60?

[jovial tide]

So the computer they are using will get that fps you see there, but you will be limited to 60

[jagged lark]

Ooh then no wonder it didn’t feel like 150 fps

[jagged lark]

What does this mean?

After 31 aug i’ll be charged £12?

[jovial tide]

is it a subscription?

if so it means during that period it'll give you that amount for the next period 13 pounds per month

[vapid grove]

Someone find me a 3070, 3070 TI, or 3080 for not more than a few hundred bucks over MSRP in the US

Hell, even a 3060TI

I just want to finally be able to upgrade to a 1440p monitor

[cold elbow]

Barely fits lol

[jovial tide]

come to Canada

buy one straight from bestbuy for 800-1000CAD

[jovial tide]

@vapid grove

or if you have Canadian friends tell them to buy one from one of the big bestbuy locations and send it over

[vapid grove]

https://www.reship.com/ apparently this is a thing

All available in store only

Wish I had Canadian friends

[jovial tide]

https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-ti-8gb-gddr6x-video-card/15530046

800CAD = 650 USD

[cold elbow]

Nice

[civic cloud]

ngl it took me a while to understand what im looking at

[jovial tide]

Bestbuy is selling last gen nvidia cards 1 per household in select shops for decent prices

in store only

[cold elbow]

Pc is pretty, cool and quiet now

[jovial tide]

Ms Melon bought a new case?

[cold elbow]

Yes

[jovial tide]

Corsair?

[vapid grove]

Oh Japan
https://wccftech.com/you-can-literally-buy-amd-ryzen-5000-desktop-cpus-through-a-vending-machine-in-japan/

[cold elbow]

Lian li lancool ii mesh

[jovial tide]

Well this is nothing new

UAE has gold vending machines

[civic cloud]

hot

send pc pics

[arctic yarrow]

Japan has vending machines for literally everything.

[jovial tide]

My router broke and Idk what type of router to cop

I want high quality and idc for price

[jovial tide]

hi

Whats your internet?

and do you want it to only act as a wifi router or modem + router?

My modem is fine I just need a router replacement

Whats the area of coverage? in m^2

and whats the most distance?

My internet is fine and was fast

no no

I mean for wifi

The router was from my provider

whats the most distant point you want it to cover

o

for example some people live in an apartment they need it to reach 10 meters

1,500 guess

some live in medium sized house 30 meters

Since I have alot of devices

so whats the most distant point?

how far is it (sorry for my horrible english)

20-30 meters is fine

Its in my living room but I can move it if I need to

and how many devices active?

6

total 6 wireless?

Yup

how many of those heavy users?

3

ok a medium priced MIMO would do the job

you in US?

Ye

(let me give you amazon links)

I have dms off but I will turn them on for now

Ok they are open now

https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-AC1900-Smart-WiFi-Router/dp/B07NF3K74H/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=tp+link+mimo&qid=1630371104&sr=8-2

This is pretty much best you can get

I see

Oof these reviews

Doesn't matter really

They are not professional opinions

Oh it blinks red when I connected it to the line omg omg 1/5

lol

This also supports OpenVPN I believe

which can be connected to most quality VPN providers

Was looking at the Netgear Nighthawk

similar

that one has wifi 6 which we don't even use 😐

AC1900 is pretty much the same as this

Yeah I'm gonna change my mind from the netgear

netgear one is also not mimo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-user_MIMO

[kindred temple]

2.4 MIMO

[jovial tide]

2.4 + 5 MIMO

[jovial tide]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2h8FohnwUs

[kindred temple]

I know what the fuck it is

[jovial tide]

Well I didn't know what the fuck it was

Until I watched this video

[normal knot]

I need a laptop that can run R, amphora, ImagePro, Labroratory Imagining, schrödinger's macro model software and similar programmes used for statistics, bio-imagining, etc

I have this laptop in mind

(it's a dutch site btw)

https://www.laptopvision.nl/refurbished-laptop-dell-precision-5510-6e-generatie-intel-core-i7-16gb-240gb-full-hd-1

[kindred temple]

Thats a laptop

Also, budget?

[normal knot]

oh whoops

[kindred temple]

[normal knot]

I got a 1000 euro grant for hardware

[kindred temple]

Well you gonna have best luck with PC

at that price

[normal knot]

this laptop's 830 btw

but anyway, I imagine that this laptop, hardware wise, can manage those programmes

[kindred temple]

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/YLTQmk

Never been this squeezed since Max Verstappen and Lewis Hamilton in 2021 British Grand Prix

995 euros, but you gonna have to get an ebay P4000.

[jovial tide]

Man I love Ms. Claire lol

[kindred temple]

Alt would be to get an RTX 3060Ti and run studio driver

[jovial tide]

Ms Claire what's the difference between game ready and studio?

[kindred temple]

Studio has slightly better pathing for CUDA accelerated workloads

But yeah, this is assuming if the app is all CUDA compatible

If not, then i can build something else.

[jovial tide]

Yep I also vote desktop

[normal knot]

ah thanks, I'll keep those parts in mind

[jovial tide]

Desktop to model laptop for representation

[normal knot]

but options are limited because laptop bs

[kindred temple]

So yeah, i need to know a bit more because my usual workstation build are for those who are doing tensorflow, premiere, and solidworks.

All 3 easily CUDA accelerated.

[brave field]

beautiful build!

[kindred temple]

To quote DankPods:

"Squeeze. Every. Penny- bursts in laughter"

[normal knot]

I'll probably add my own funds since 1k isn't really enough

[kindred temple]

Yeah, 10400 is kinda hardcore if you professionally uses them. For amateur itll be fine, but if you got paid for this shit i wouldnt even think of it

[normal knot]

yeah exactly

[kindred temple]

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/mcRZYg

This is my baseline non GPU acceleration workstation build.

If you got less money, get a 10850k and a really solid Z490/590 board, or 10900 locked with a solid B560 board

[normal knot]

hm I'll keep the GPU and CPU in mind but it's going to be a laptop for location sake

[kindred temple]

For laptops i dont know much really, but i heard good thing about Asus Proart.

[normal knot]

[kindred temple]

Yep, hardcore shit

[normal knot]

ah

[kindred temple]

with hardcore price tag

Legit one of my fave laptop right now, but far too overkill from what i want out of a laptop.

[normal knot]

hmm one of the cheaper ones with a quadro card is +4K eur

[kindred temple]

I kinda treat my laptop like how macbook fanboy treats their laptop: Its a fashion statement and something to type things on.

[normal knot]

so... maybe in the far, far future

[normal knot]

sigma grindset with a battery

[kindred temple]

yes

[silent mason]

I feel like I should have gone RTX 3090 for Star Citizen

[rugged pelican]

Is there a way i can factor reset my pc?

It would be helpful

[jovial tide]

reset factory your windows os you mean?

[cold elbow]

Not even that would help

6900 maybe

[kindred temple]

69? Nice

[civic cloud]

Nice

[cold elbow]

Where are the cables?

[lost fossil]

behind the panels of ofc course

[civic cloud]

Why do you have extra panels to hide cables if you're putting on a side panel anyway

[lost fossil]

it's probably a glass side panel

[civic cloud]

You can barely see through tinted glass anyway

If it's dark behind it

[cold elbow]

Yes it is glass door

U can flex your rgb ssd

[civic cloud]

can you show the other side? 🥺

[cold elbow]

Or controller

[civic cloud]

Nice :)

[cold elbow]

I love it

But still, need to change few things to make it better

[civic cloud]

What else would you change uwu

[cold elbow]

Might add another bottom fan

And gpu cables needs to look better

[civic cloud]

Yis

[cold elbow]

They are messy now

[lost fossil]

but if you have white cables then it's gonna look awkward

[civic cloud]

Valid point, but don't think you can see it much

[cold elbow]

U can clearly see the ssd if you install it there

Because it's not tinted

[lost fossil]

rgb ssds are a joke

[jovial tide]

pfff rgb ssd?!

[kindred temple]

Team is a joke

Except for their RGB RAM lineup

[cold elbow]

U don't really need rgb ssd
U can flex your fancy Samsung ssd

[kindred temple]

Oh wow

Samsung

You must be like

Rich

[cold elbow]

Unfortunately i cant flex because m.2 ssd 😩

[civic cloud]

Tint it

@kindred temple have you seen the news about WD SN550

[kindred temple]

Theyre 💩

Even without this nerf

[civic cloud]

Good that i bought the 750 then

[cold elbow]

NO
It looks naturally tinted since everything is black inside the case

[civic cloud]

Tint it anyway

[silent mason]

I'd planned for RGB SSDs

[vernal bloom]

@jovial tide sup

Is this good pc or

[jovial tide]

bought it?

@jovial tide 👆

We found Ms Mwah that exact model

[jovial tide]

It's decent

[arctic scarab]

!ranl

[jovial tide]

For hardcore gaming you wanna add a graphics card to it

[jovial tide]

Nope, thinking of getting it when I move probably, it's only gonna be like 2 months@jovial tide

Still great choice

[vernal bloom]

@jovial tide How long would it take to install all the systems after building the pc

[jovial tide]

Yess, the one I'm getting is a lil bit more because I'm getting extra stuff for it like 2tb HDD, 256gb SSD and 16GB RAM

It's only £15 more tho

[jovial tide]

1-2 hours

oh yeah Tee you can buy it straight from their website

Yeah, the one on the website is better imo

@jovial tide I'm wondering something

What are you wondering about?

Because I may not be able to use the ethernet cord, would I need to buy WiFi for the PC or not?

yes yes you can

there's usb wifi and pci-e wifi which is installed in the case

On the website, there's an option to buy WIFI for it

[kindred temple]

Yeah thats usually card

Unless specified

Ill go with none

[jovial tide]

Wdum card?

Okayyy, tyy

[kindred temple]

You can get USB adapter for like 4 eur

Or even less if you go used

[jovial tide]

Do you need a USB adapter?

[kindred temple]

Not really

Depends on the board

But again

LAN is better

[jovial tide]

I agree ethernet's better

but wifi is ok I guess if done well

I know, I just don't know if I would be able to get one

so all motherboards have ethernet cards on them, you can just buy a wifi usb card or an internal one just to be sure

So you recommend me getting a WiFi adapter?

[jagged lark]

I’ve bought Ubisoft+ and looks like i can play it on Geforce now

So in total spent like £11

[jovial tide]

Is that good or?

[jagged lark]

Yeah it’s good. Don’t need to add ons as dlc’s get included

[jovial tide]

On nice, happy days thenn

@jovial tide do you think I should get a WiFi adapter then? If yes, how many mbs do you suggest

[jagged lark]

• my wifi is extremely good so that’s another bonus

[pliant lynx]

u need to know what your speed first

[jovial tide]

Well it's useful if you can't connect a cable to it @jovial tide

[jovial tide]

How to find that out

And also that depends on your internet connection speed

[pliant lynx]

but nowaday most wifi adapter has the same bands

just make sure it supports AC

[jagged lark]

With the free version that’s a 1 hour session length does that mean after one hour is over only way to play again is by buying it?

[pliant lynx]

802.11ac

[pliant lynx]

u can use ookla to test

[jovial tide]

Does it matter how many mbs if it does

Oh okay

[pliant lynx]

nah just get 802.11ac

[jovial tide]

That's my phone btw idk if it would change

[pliant lynx]

there will be difference

may i know why not just connect your pc via LAN??

too far ?

[jovial tide]

Well I'm gonna get the PC when I move incase something happens whilst we are moving furniture or whatever and I don't know where the plugs and whatnot would be

[pliant lynx]

ahh i see

[jovial tide]

Yess

[pliant lynx]

is it multiple storeys?

[jovial tide]

So I may be able to, but I'm just planning

Well yeah it's 2, bottom floor and top floor

[pliant lynx]

u can take a look at powerline adapter for ethernet, they might cost abit but it allows u to do wired connection

[jovial tide]

new house new internet

What's a powerline adapter

[pliant lynx]

it basically allows u to transmit signal via your powerlines in your house

[jovial tide]

Oh, wouldn't that be really expensive then??

[jagged lark]

Guess I don’t need to buy the paid gforce version if i can keep playing on the free version. Nice nice

[pliant lynx]

A powerline adapter is an alternative to running in-wall Ethernet cables or relying on possible unstable WiFi. A powerline adapter has the ability to send your music, photo, video, and computer data over your household's existing electrical wiring just like it would over Ethernet cables.

it might cost more but is more beneficial as it is a better alternative using wifi adapters

[jovial tide]

that's how it is Miss Mwah

Every time you move you need to get new internet, new land lines, etc

Do you?

[jagged lark]

@jovial tide since your with BT, enter the post code in that area and it’ll show the best wifi that works

But imo i’d say get something like fibre broadband and use and ethernet cable for constant 100+ mbps

[jovial tide]

Enter the postcode where

Just on Google or what

[jagged lark]

https://www.bt.com/products/broadband/deals?s_cid=con_bt_dg-home_ess_ppc-brand_vidZ60&vendorid=Z60&esskwid=p3443288027&ds_rl=1000720&ds_rl=1276299&ds_rl=1276299&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI4MyPvJvb8gIVDtTtCh0TkAZDEAAYASAAEgJcz_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Then go down a little bit where it says postcode

[jovial tide]

It usually works like that

[jagged lark]

Unless you live far away from some big shops/ buildings it’ll show really bad broadband

[jovial tide]

Can you find postcodes on google maps?

[civic cloud]

yes

[jovial tide]

How

[pliant lynx]

just search

country and then postal codes

[jovial tide]

don't worry

wireless is acceptable

[vernal bloom]

@jovial tide does it matter which case i buy or

[jovial tide]

no it's all good. also look at their website https://www.awd-it.co.uk/about-awd-it.html you can custom build there

[vernal bloom]

Ok cool

[pliant lynx]

as long your board fits the case and have adequate space

[jovial tide]

lol

[vernal bloom]

So i only need 6 component to build one

Pc

[jovial tide]

I can't find the postcode to the house, but can find it to houses close to it

[kindred temple]

4, actually

CPU, PSU, motherboard, RAM

Headless clients exists, and you can always live boot linux off of a flash drives

Is it ideal? Fuck no, but its working.

[vernal bloom]

Which cpu,psu,mtb

@kindred temple

[kindred temple]

Budget?

[jovial tide]

Claire

[vernal bloom]

450

[jovial tide]

What lack of feature makes GTA Online run on 40-60 fps on old cpus and gta single 120+ ?

A guy had 4770k + 1080 he was having this problem :/

[jagged lark]

@jovial tide if your gonna get new wifi search up the full fibre 500

Good for that price

[kindred temple]

Well they just have really optimization @jovial tide

But you gonna have to ask oleg on the detail, RAGE optimization isnt my forte.

My specialization is Unity and Minecraft

[vernal bloom]

Damn

[jovial tide]

idk

get the 5600G kid @vernal bloom

[vernal bloom]

Whats the difference

[kindred temple]

Ebay, get a 6th gen i7 Dell Optiplex/HP Pavilions and a 1650 (or the super version if youre lucky)

[jovial tide]

@lost fossil Oleg what makes the new GTAO run crappy on older CPUs but singleplayer run just fine on them? (60+fps difference)

[kindred temple]

Dont bother going for new at that low of a price, youll be sorely disappointed

[jagged lark]

Is the ryzen 5 1600 good? Its cheap too

[jovial tide]

Ancient technology

Anything less than Ryzen 5000 no

[kindred temple]

1600 what?

[jovial tide]

Ryzen 1600 lol

[kindred temple]

I mean 1600AF is pretty much like bad bin 2600 and can be had for cheap on used

[jagged lark]

Well ima save up more money and try n get a good pc

[vernal bloom]

@kindred temple Used

[kindred temple]

Lookin good

[jagged lark]

Just hoping new rpg games come out and people are desperate for certain exclusives

[kindred temple]

For how much though?

[kindred temple]

Pretty much expected price on those, but kinda too good to be true

Lemme check ebay rq

[jovial tide]

Kinda my parents choice tbh

😮 300 pounds 😮

DDR 4 16gb + 6700 😮 😮

It'll run GTAO like a potato though, new patches are hungry for new CPUs

Idk, seems a lil bit fishy

[jagged lark]

Ooh like that

[vernal bloom]

Wat about 64gb ddr4

[jagged lark]

Suggest it to them

[vernal bloom]

😂

[jovial tide]

Make it 256GB

Let's put a tractor in there

@jovial tide dont worry about internet man. worst case scenario you'll put the modem just next to your computer or on your computer's desk

That's what I've always done anyways

Modem?

[jagged lark]

@vernal bloom if your wanting to have a gaming pc I’d suggest try pc specialist or cyberpower

[jovial tide]

Ohh

[vernal bloom]

Wdym

[jovial tide]

The extender

[jovial tide]

the thing ISP installs for you to give you internet is called modem

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modem

[vernal bloom]

Shit hella expensive on that web

[jovial tide]

You can ask them to insall it near your computer desk or something

if everyone uses wifi it's the best thing to do

[jagged lark]

Go for one with best cpu and gpu then customise it there

[jovial tide]

This? @jovial tide

idk what that is

wait

[jovial tide]

What's your midget

Budget*

[jagged lark]

@jovial tide thats a wifi router

[jovial tide]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ibaclRcAghU/maxresdefault.jpg

This is a vodafone modem

backside of a modem

[vernal bloom]

@jovial tide £400

[jovial tide]

as you can see you can connect cables to it and the otherside to your computer

[kindred temple]

Nvm

[jagged lark]

Lol you really reveal some priv info?

[kindred temple]

Its actually quite market price for 7040s, but still

i never heard of the place and i dont know its refund scheme

on ebay its quite good, but idk that place

[pliant lynx]

oh nice u got a mesh system

like me

[jovial tide]

if that's mesh that's like top quality wifi

[jovial tide]

Yeahh, it's got an ethernet hole in the back and it's got a bit plugged in

but best results is when you connect the first source (not the extenders) to your pc

So idk if it would be better to put an ethernet bit or just use wifi

like the first device ISP gives you internet on

Oh

[jovial tide]

Yeah I know

[pliant lynx]

ethernet>wifi

[jovial tide]

Connecting an extender like that to a PC is no different than just having a Wifi adapter

Oh okay

[pliant lynx]

u can try see if powwerline adapter works

they are much consistent and performs like how ethernet connection would

[vernal bloom]

@jovial tide found this case wat do u think

[kindred temple]

Get the airflow edition

But again, at 450 you either better off going used

[jovial tide]

I don't think I can do that

[kindred temple]

or go with buying things 1 by 1.

[pliant lynx]

[jovial tide]

Yeah it's just better to place your modem on the PC

[kindred temple]

No

Because heat

[jovial tide]

Like hey ISP here's my PC install that crap next to it and connect it to it

[vernal bloom]

This ?

[jovial tide]

Wait 1 second

[kindred temple]

Just use the one thats integrated to the cooler or included to the box

you buy extra thermal pastes

not for the build

[vernal bloom]

Ok

[jovial tide]

Is this a modem? Because we have this downstairs

yes

this is probably it if your connection is DSL

DSL?

[vernal bloom]

Lol i have this

[jovial tide]

Well it says DSL modem + wifi router

Yeahh, we have that downstairs

Nothing else like this?

Nope

Well this is it then

This is your modem

That's our like main thing

In the next house you can ask those guys to install this next to your PC

I don't think they will do that

They will though

[vernal bloom]

Whats the difference between ryzen 5 3600 and 5600

[jovial tide]

I live in a basement rn and if I want to I can get internet here installed in the basement

and they definitely can install it on my desk

depends where your desk is but it's not that hard to do

Yeah but my family and whatnot need it as well

Upstairs in my room probably

[civic cloud]

5600 is new Gen
Like Ps4 and Ps5

[pliant lynx]

it depends on what wall u are using

[jovial tide]

Wdum wall

[pliant lynx]

if u putting concrete,chances are wifi will be interfered

[jovial tide]

Oh

Brick

[pliant lynx]

concrete wall degrades wifi signal

[vernal bloom]

@civic cloud yh i cost more tho than 3600

[jovial tide]

Most likely gonna be bricks

[pliant lynx]

[jovial tide]

Well others use the wireless right?

[jovial tide]

I know something pretty good for 515, but not 400

[jovial tide]

Yeah, we all do

[jovial tide]

so problems solved install near your desk -> others can still use wireless -> you also can connect a 3 meter cable to it

[pliant lynx]

best u centralised your router/modem if u using only a single network device

else deadzones

[jovial tide]

We have 2 mesh things 1 in the room next to the garden and the other in my room

[pliant lynx]

hmm seems stable enough

[vernal bloom]

Which motherboard do i choose

[jovial tide]

Are you trying to build a PC with a budget of 400?

[jovial tide]

it will still cover all of them

[vernal bloom]

Wat is it

[jovial tide]

Not the best, but it's got a Ryzen 5 5600, 16gb ram, 240gb ssd, 2tb hdd

[jovial tide]

I still don't think my dad would say yes

[vernal bloom]

Yh I need one to cover these specs ( CPU Intel Core i5 3470 @ 3.2GHz / AMD X8 FX-8350 @ 4GHz
GPU NVIDIA GTX 660 2GB / AMD HD 7870 2GB
RAM 16GB
HDD 72GB + 8GB)

Need 16gb ram 8 is crap

[jovial tide]

Shouldn't be a problem really Ms Mwah

When there's a desktop computer there needs to be ethernet cables or a modem nearby

Wouldn't make any difference for your wireless connections in house

Yeahh, but my dad wouldn't understand that

He would say I'm trying to use it all or some shit

[civic forum]

1 with rgb

[jovial tide]

Does RGB do anything or is it just for looks

[pliant lynx]

looks

[jovial tide]

Doesn't even look good imo

[vernal bloom]

??

[kindred temple]

.

[vernal bloom]

Ok

[jagged lark]

~~ Are gaming laptops good? ~~

~~ Cause i can also get a 120/144hz monitor and connect them ~~