tech-coding-math

[rose lantern]

im fucking stupid

i fixed it

[civic cloud]

hehehe

[jovial tide]

I hope so

but I dont think so - other than occasional store sales (1-2 per household)

[civic cloud]

Getting lower before going up for Christmas again, then falling

[jovial tide]

Gaus why would it fall?

Crypto's still growing

[civic cloud]

Because miners aren't the main reason for not being able to buy a gpu

1. Disruption of delivery chains due to Covid
2. People being at home and wanting stuff to do = way more demand
3. 3000 Series being an actual upgrade = more demand
4. Scalpers buying shit, because they are huge cunts

and 5. They are still producing GPUs, so prices have to fall consistently

[kindred temple]

^

Honestly crypto miners is the new black with the r/pcmasterrace having 0 knowledge about sensationalization.

[jovial tide]

people also be like

camping on the nearest bestbuy lol

[arctic yarrow]

Honest question, givent the choice between buying a used gpu from a miner for msrp, or buying a used gpu from a gamer at current prices, what would you guys go for?

Personally, I would go with the gpu that was used for mining.

[civic cloud]

Doesn't really make a difference

Miner has a higher chance of being dust free

[jovial tide]

if miner price is lower and looks decent (undamaged and not tempered with) I would buy 100%

Linus influenced my thoughts a bit, before that linus video I would have said gamer

[kindred temple]

I would buy from real miners

Like a 10 year old with 13 3090s

😎

But yeah, imo

If a seller goes "Im A gAmEr i KnOw My ShiT" ill steer clear regardless.

Because i know he'll be a super pretentious dick with super firm pricing.

[jovial tide]

That GPU is probably overvolted to 2000 volts

"Im A gAmEr i KnOw My ShiT

While GPU miners usually undervolt

But I would say i general, buy from a source you can test - compare with original specs then buy

[cold elbow]

When if a gamer overvolt to 2000 which he cant because Nvidia hard locked voltage manipulation it still will rarely work on 100%
During a game u face spikes of 100% and even if it's fully utilized it's not like a mining load...
Mining on the other hand highly depends on the overclocker when it comes to room temperature and dust because that what fucks things up

[jovial tide]

[kindred temple]

100% load is expected load

And besides, undervolting and underclocking is very much the norm in mining community.

If youre not doing that, your ROI going to suffer especially if youre in countries with ass electricity cost

Like murica

[jovial tide]

👌 and that is why it's worth it to buy a miner gpu

[arctic yarrow]

I would buy a miner gpu over a gamer gpu because I know how thermodynamics work, and it's better for the lifespan of a component to be under a constant temperature than to undergo fluctuating temperatures over the course of it's usage.

[civic cloud]

That won't really come into play if you buy a 3000 series card

Only older cards

[sour marsh]

I am glad that gigabyte is making 32 inch 4k 144hz cheaper than what it really needs to be

sadly the FI32U has too many issues for me to fork over $1000

[full hull]

No

[kindred temple]

Well then argue why not, that isnt the same repeated industry-wide lie.

[full hull]

https://youtu.be/Lhlt3QoTStI

[kindred temple]

https://youtu.be/hKqVvXTanzI

Ill trust LTT more than a fucking testtubers.

[full hull]

Same thing here

Ok long story short it depends if b the condition of the gpu

And how long has the miner been using it

If you find a good deal well yeah sure

But you might experience some headache

[kindred temple]

But you basically never lose

because Taxi cards are always less than MSRP, miners are fast liquidators.

[full hull]

Well they sell their cards for the msrp now

At least 3000 series cards

Also fuck Apple auto correction

[kindred temple]

Well have you seen 3000 series street price?

[full hull]

Outside USA yes

I think prices are kinda reasonable in the US now

Micro center sells gpus for the msrp

[jovial tide]

Really

Which gpu should I get

[kindred temple]

Well whats your budget

[jovial tide]

That’s goes well with msi b550 edge WiFi and ryzen 5600x

Maybe under 400

Something that can run 1440p @ 90+ fps

I won’t be heavily gaming

Mainly I will be playing gta

[kindred temple]

Well sub 399 you really only have RTX 3060Ti

And that thing is barely 1440p ready

[arctic yarrow]

It looks like there was some overheating there. Reapply thermal compound and you should be good to go.

[jovial tide]

Looks like it's low on power

@civic cloud you told me this case had shit airflow

I don’t think it does

Get better brands

Like what

This is the case right?

[jovial tide]

Get top tier Thermaltake and Coolermaster

https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/cases/#!/

[jovial tide]

Yep

That case looks good though ngl

Exactly

See if thermaltake and cooler have something similar

You can see all models in their website (2021 ones are usually a bit better and more polished)

I have the Corsair aio ordered so

That case will paid well

Oh you have it already ordered?

Not the case but Corsair aio

If you're talking about CPU/Gpu coolers they fit into any case

I meant Thermaletake & Coolermaster

Nope

[kindred temple]

But it is

[vapid grove]

Is it just me or is that case unnecessarily thicc

[kindred temple]

You never want to have only side gaps for airflow, because fans effective power is on the blade area

not the frame side.

[jovial tide]

yeah it'll leak through the sides

[kindred temple]

https://youtu.be/Ik48WmrJrkI

Get the 5000D, its far better.

Hell, get the predecessor to this piece of shit

The Air 740

[jovial tide]

I'm not a huge fan of corsair cases :/

So which one

[kindred temple]

Well whats your candidate

[jovial tide]

Best one

[kindred temple]

Breh

[jovial tide]

And something under 150$

[kindred temple]

Well then 5000D Airflow

pretty much my default at that price range

[grim sable]

ur pretty bad at math, jk ily savage

[cold elbow]

I thought you were going with lian li

Now u are back to the piece of shit case

[jovial tide]

Can’t decide

[cold elbow]

Lancool 2 is like the one of the top cases on the cooling charts

[jovial tide]

This one ?

[cold elbow]

https://youtu.be/x9vXEyQYUjI

Yeah

[jovial tide]

Does it come with rgb fans as shown in the pic

[kindred temple]

[cold elbow]

@jovial tide yes 3 ARGB fans if you get the rgb version

[pliant lynx]

man my huawei earbud hurts

[civic cloud]

Thats

Unfortunate

[sour marsh]

so I just found a new case that has 180mm fans

is this normal?

I thought 120,140 and 200 were standard

[kindred temple]

Not so much

[pliant lynx]

corsair making 500mm fan

[silent mason]

5000000mm fan when?

[sour marsh]

@kindred temple yeah you should look at the Fractual Torrent case, (it's like $190)

it's got like a slick design and lots of airflow under and front

[kindred temple]

Already recommending it to people

[sour marsh]

PSU shroud on top

not sure how I feel about that

[cold elbow]

180 is rare

[full hull]

500mm

My 120mm is crying rn

[jovial tide]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpU35rl9lKo

[cold elbow]

Best Microsoft game

[jovial tide]

lol

[prisma citrus]

[sour marsh]

@cold elbow inb4 gigabyte psu memes comes here

do they even offer warranty?

[prisma citrus]

Gigabyte PSU meme?

[cold elbow]

They offer a replacement

[sour marsh]

their PSUs for the last 2 weeks have exploded on people

causing fire in systems

[cold elbow]

Basically take your bomb and hand you another

[prisma citrus]

just googled it

so we have the Note 7 but for PSUs

[jovial tide]

lol

[cold elbow]

Gigabyte is also famous for making the worst software ever

[sour marsh]

yes

[jovial tide]

god damn gigabyte

[prisma citrus]

nais

[jovial tide]

don't buy it Asus/MSI for the win

Aztec third option

[sour marsh]

that's why my Boot drive is named C: Fuck Gigabyte Bios

[prisma citrus]

Republic of Gaemers*!*

[sour marsh]

[prisma citrus]

😩

[sour marsh]

although I am happy about one thing Gigabyte does

saturating the 4k 144hz market

their M28U and FI32U being very decent choices for monitors

[cold elbow]

Gigabyte also had the best x570 boards for a while

[jovial tide]

I thought gigabyte can be trusted

it was good before

[sour marsh]

they can, just not with PSUs

[cold elbow]

Gigabyte is a hit or miss

[sour marsh]

I didn't even know they made PSUs until steve made that explode vidro

ngl

[cold elbow]

They have garbage and very good products

[jovial tide]

Guys nice question

What PCs have you had over the years and what specs?

[prisma citrus]

never had a proper pc

[cold elbow]

That would be a long answer

[sour marsh]

well the one I have in my room now

[prisma citrus]

that's probably why I stayed out of the PC market for so long

[sour marsh]

[jovial tide]

same here very sadge

[prisma citrus]

I only very recently came to know how much goes into building PCs

it still overwhelms me sometimes

[cold elbow]

I had a lot of computers over the years or just parts upgrading

[jovial tide]

you had that many PCs?

[cold elbow]

And built a lot

[jovial tide]

Well as far as I can remember I had 1 starter PC (I dont even know the specs it was pentium 4) - upgraded it to another one, then I bought an i5 2310 for college had it for years

got a laptop, sold the 2310 one and got 7700k +8 gb ram + 1050ti sold it moved here to Canada - bought Acer Aspire5 8250u + mx150

And now I'm sad waiting for my next one to come from Dell

That i5 2310 + GTS 450 OC lasted me like 7 years

[sour marsh]

the PC I have includes

PC Case: Fractual Meshify S
CPU: AMD Ryzen 3700X
CPU Cooling :NZXT Kraken Z73
Motherboard: Gigabyte Aorus Elite X570
PSU: Fractual Ion 960W
GPU: Asus TUF 3080 OC
RAM: 32GB 3200 C-16

@jovial tide

I won't include storage for now

[jovial tide]

That's really nice

[prisma citrus]

getting new?

[jovial tide]

960W is a bit overkill I believe 570x is very nice (though gigabyte) ram's also good but 32 too much

[cold elbow]

Currently i have 4 computers

[jovial tide]

Melon's one of those Bestbuy campers xD

[sour marsh]

no I I have 5TB of SSDs, I do not like to flex on it @prisma citrus

[cold elbow]

So it's a long messed up list to mention

[prisma citrus]

ah oke

[cold elbow]

@jovial tide used to work for gamestop

[prisma citrus]

I've never had the issue of running out of storage on my 1TB NVMe

[jovial tide]

hehe that's why then

Let me guess Ontario?

[prisma citrus]

Uninstalling games goes a long way when you have somewhat decent connection

[cold elbow]

But no thats not the reason

I have my old pc in NY

[jovial tide]

why do eastern canada people move to NY?

[cold elbow]

and in home gaming desktop, laptop and a shitbox as a server

[jovial tide]

oh you have a house server 😮

that's kind of rare

[cold elbow]

It's very useful

[jovial tide]

probably a house domain and ADDS too lol

[cold elbow]

And u can build one from the junkyard

[jovial tide]

and maybe even WSUS

true

[sour marsh]

anyway imma go to an esports area with like 20-30 pcs lined up

cya for now

[cold elbow]

Have fun

[lost fossil]

c2d e6750+2gb+8600gt/hd4870
i5 2500k+8gb+hd7770
i7 5820k+16gb+fury x/1080ti
tr 1920x+32gb+1080ti
r7 5800x+32gb+1080ti

[jovial tide]

which one lasted the most for you? and for that period of time which one was a favorite?

[lost fossil]

about 3 years each

[cold elbow]

I like how u moved that gpu over 3 builds

[jovial tide]

1080ti's a very good card still

also RTX is like meh

[cold elbow]

[jovial tide]

raytracing man, what's the point

[lost fossil]

1080ti

[jovial tide]

I remember my first PC, 256mb ram, 32mb GPU ,1.7GHz intel celeron

When I had that pentium 4 I didn't know anything about computers. I once removed my windows/system32 folder lol

I thought it's extra garbage, "why is it there?"

[lost fossil]

the truth is that the biggest extra cabbage is the winsxs folder

[jovial tide]

I’ll bring you it

[cold elbow]

Oh thank you

[sour marsh]

@cold elbow

all Omen PCs

[jovial tide]

that csgo contest you talked about?

[cold elbow]

Looks like a very nice place

[sour marsh]

Well yes, but It seems the team wasn't even setup for this place, so i guess there won't be tournaments this early

it opened on the 20th of this month

so it is quite fresh

[sour marsh]

I also got a pic of their PCs

pretty minimalist build, But I guess if you wanna have 40 of these, gotta go cheap sometimes

[full hull]

Hi

Is there is any difference between Corsair vengeance rgb black and white?

Because I heard that white one isn’t Samsung B

[cold elbow]

https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/arm_s_arm_china_problem_has_just_gotten_much_worse/1

It's our ARM now lol

[quartz kayak]

So it all works but i need an fan hub bcs my Mobos rgb thingy has 4 prongs but the fans rgb thingy has 3 holes

I ll take a photo as soon as im done cleaning my room

It says on the case manual that it should have an 3 prong conection for the leds but it doesnt

[cold elbow]

4pin is 12 volts RGB
3pin is 5 volts ARGB (addressable RGB)

[analog wharf]

rtx is only good because its on minecraft

[cold elbow]

Wise

[analog wharf]

system32 aint crap you would have fun finding out the bootmgr back then

[lost fossil]

this whole pc looks awkward

[sour marsh]

it does, not the biggest fan, but it is built cheap for a reason

[jovial tide]

looks good 😠

very neat, the original fan 2x rams some purple light decent mid range case

and no fan gaps I'd take it every day

[kindred temple]

Its an Omen right

The HP gaming bs

[sour marsh]

correct

also you waking me up 1.50am to tell me this

good job

[kindred temple]

[brave field]

Would you say OpenJDK's implementation of the JVM is heavier than the official one? I'm seeing ridiculous 100mb+ ram used by OpenJDK's JVM when running extremely basic programs.

[quartz kayak]

no one saw anything

[civic cloud]

Oki fishy

[jovial tide]

After research I think I’m planning on buying this case @kindred temple

[kindred temple]

Thats very pog too

[jovial tide]

Why

What u want me to get

I want that Corsair thingy to fit

[kindred temple]

Wat

[lost fossil]

i think you can invert the mobo tray in that be quiet case

[jovial tide]

I’m buying this one than

[kindred temple]

Dude what

Im just saying its a pretty good case too

[jovial tide]

Too late I bought lancool

How do I buy graphic card now lol

[pliant lynx]

newegg

[kindred temple]

You dont

Try looking for Best Buy and Micro Center drops

Newegg raffle is a good one too

[jovial tide]

Tell your Canadian friend to buy one for you and send it over there

They need to camp bestbuy for you 🥷

[jovial tide]

Question question

does anybody know AMD if multi GPU feature still works?

and does it do anything?

[kindred temple]

It still works but why?

Its even shittier than SLI

[jovial tide]

#gta-tech-support

take a look

[pale robin]

Is anyone good at troubleshooting PCs?? I'm trying to hook it up to my tv to set it up until I find my dad's old monitor but it won't connect

Ping please

[jovial tide]

Whats the problem here?

[pale robin]

It won't connect to the tv

The oc

[jovial tide]

HDMI?

[pale robin]

PC*

Yes

[jovial tide]

right click on desktop -> display settings

see if windows recognizes it

[pale robin]

I can't

The tv won't show visuals

That's the problem

[jovial tide]

Does it show a second monitor there?

Or not?

When the TV's turned on and HDMI's connected

[pale robin]

Wdym second monitor?

[jovial tide]

right click on desktop -> display settings

under multiple displays

[pale robin]

I don't have any other monitor

This will be my primary and only minister until I find a new one

[jovial tide]

did you go there?

[pale robin]

Go where?

[jovial tide]

feels like I'm talking to a wall tbh

nvm

[pale robin]

I'm not good with computers

[jovial tide]

right click on the desktop

click display settings

[pale robin]

I do not have a screen

[jovial tide]

oh

[pale robin]

The only screen I have is what I'm trying to connect to

But it won't work

[jovial tide]

so you have to set the TV to run through HDMI

there's usually a source button on it

[pale robin]

Yea

I've tried all the sources

None of them show anything

[jovial tide]

maybe it's your cable

[pale robin]

Nah I tried two different cables, one I used earlier

On my Xbox and it worked

[pliant hinge]

try only the tv

and check if your cable isn't in your mobo output but in your graphics card

[pale robin]

I don't have a graphics card, I'm running integrated graphics rn

Don't know what Mobo is but the tv works fine

Other discords say that I need to find a VGA monitor to mess with bios

[kindred temple]

If your board is even remotely modern, you can use any video ports and itll work.

[jovial tide]

Yes

[jovial tide]

VGA is a pain in the butt, you need extra wiring for the sound

[kindred temple]

For diagnose, displaying anything wins the race

[jovial tide]

hehehehehehehe

hheheehee

[pale robin]

12 years old, bought in '09

[kindred temple]

Yeah, you can run any port and it should switch on its own.

[sour marsh]

well it looks like the Fractal Torrent is getting recalled

they stopped all sales and anyone who got it is asked to send it back, Over a Fan Hub issue that could have been hazardous

If only NZXT and Gigabyte would learn

[kindred temple]

Ah yes, classic fractal

Remember Define R1?

They recall the ENTIRE SHIPPED BATCH of Define's over a crappily designed USB front panel.

[cold elbow]

What is up with manufacturers and fire these days

[sour marsh]

such service makes me wanna get fractal products because I know they'll recall and fix it asap

instead of lying to media, blame the media, or get memed on

[sour marsh]

meh I accept that mistakes happen under manufacturing, the question is what you do after the discovery

you have multiple chains of people and process to accept anyway, it slips by sometimes

https://youtu.be/ytxtbLou978

[kindred temple]

Now granted the USB problem wasnt even major, it was that its not gonna last.

[coral knot]

someone with a macbook pls help, is winrar available for a macbook??

[pliant hinge]

I think you have to use unrar instead

[coral knot]

what is that? @pliant hinge

i just want to crack vegas pro and i need winrar for it

i have all adobe apps legit from school but i find vegas pro more usefull

[cold elbow]

Yeah and even if they didn't fix it its not dangerous and easily fixable

Not sending plastic screws

[pliant hinge]

he got it fixed, told him in dm

[kindred temple]

Inexperienced with an app doesnt mean that the app is useless.

[strong saffron]

What is the adobe equivalent of Vegas Pro?

[brave field]

After Effects + Premiere

[strong saffron]

oh right

[pale robin]

I'm rebuilding an old PC and the BIOS was reset to factory settings so now it's trying to connect to a VGA monitor instead of a HDMI monitor. The problem is that the HDMI monitor is the only monitor I have and I don't even have a VGA cable. Because of the new parts I needed (and still need) for the PC I don't have money to buy or rent a cable or a monitor. Is there anyway I can switch them without having an optical connection?

[cold elbow]

Usually, bios boots on any display plugged into it...
Try to reset CMOS, that might help and test if your monitor works
Maybe your computer is not booting

[pale robin]

How do k reset CMOS?

[quartz kayak]

I found an fix for the mobos that only have rgb that want to use aRGB

The "Razer Chroma Addressable RGB Controller" seems to be abble to help since its conection to the mobo is not rgb (usb and power) and it has the 4pin normal rgb, 3pin aRGB and led strips compatibility

So yeah thats probably the only way to connect a aRGB to an not aRGB mobo

[kindred temple]

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000025368/processors.html

[jovial tide]

Is this good gpu for running 1440p

Games like gta and fortnite

[pale robin]

Didn't work

[jovial tide]

Yeah something's not compatible there

Also that 3070's amazing

[jovial tide]

Nice so it will work well with ryzen 5 5600x and msi 550b

ofcourse

And you'e gonna have to install all the essential software

Like what

MSI motherboard program + Radeon software adrenaline last version

Oh ok

Shouldn’t be hard?

No it's not. you just search for exact motherboard model

Download the msi crap in utility page then it'll download all the motherboard drivers for you

I’m still waiting for parts

Then you download GeForce Experience

Just wanted to see that gpu is good to order

it'll download graphics driver and game optimisations

[brave field]

Geforce Experience

Grab the game-ready driver, but avoid GFE like the plague!

[arctic yarrow]

I mean, it does come bundled with software I use to record, so...

[brave field]

What software are you using? Nvidia Replay is heavier than OBS, if its that.

[arctic yarrow]

Shadowplay

And by heavy, do you mean on the CPU or RAM? Because I haven't noticed any frame drops from using it.

[brave field]

Shadowplay/Replay is heavier than OBS in all regards because of its ties to GFE

h.264 GPU encoding would be slightly faster in Shadowplay if not for GFE's other always-running components

[arctic yarrow]

Aww well, I'm too lazy to set up OBS again, and I don't record professionally.

[brave field]

Shadowplay/Replay's convenience factor is amazing though

If a non-GFE version existed, it would be perfection!

No second window open in the background, no installing another program, loads less quality/performance tuning involved...

[arctic yarrow]

True that, but the convenience of it outweighs the system impact for me.

[brave field]

fairfair, yesyes

[jovial tide]

@jovial tide what about this one

The other msi I showed it’s not in stock

3070 much better

but this one's also good; depends on your monitor and expectations of games

That’s the monitor I got

1440p

you can play very high (average) on most games on 1080p with lower resolution

and probably mid/high 1440p

search "zotac gtx 1660 super 1440p benchmark" to see the ideal results on the internet

if you wanna go cheaper with the GPU I suggest cut a little on the monitor

Monitor already ordered

I have ordered all parts except gpu

do you have the money for 3070?

[jovial tide]

Ye

But it’s not in stock on target

US?

If you have a close friend (not internet friend) in Canada you can ask him to buy it for you

Bestbuy sells right now

let me find u something in Geforce website

That 1660 super is not really good for 1440p imo

Yes I’m USA

[jovial tide]

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/30-series/#shop-all

browse through 3080s and 3070TIs

mine opens Canadian stores yours will open american ones, see if there's anything in stock. Wortman bought it this way a few days ago

Nothing in USA

No stock

Well sorry to hear that. right now best buy sells for 800 CAD Nvidia 3070ti

800+tax ofc

Can I buy it

If I’m in USA

Only in store 1-2 per household

So they have stock in store

Yes they do

How am I going to get it

Everything’s sold out in US

I have no idea, maybe call bestbuy see if they can help you out for 1

I remember back in the day one of my friends ordered 2060 super from US

maybe you can do the same and buy it from Canada? have you checked Amazon.ca?

Only if these gpus were in stock I buy it right away

The bestbuy one's in stock sec

And people on eBay freakin selling them double the msrp price

https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-ti-8gb-gddr6x-video-card/15530046

it's like 640 USD

heck might even be worth it to fly here just to buy

Where I’m gonna live lol

The flights gonna cost money plus hotel

Hmm not really

Not sure if there's still Airbnb

But you can fly go to the store buy maybe sleep a night in airbnb get back

So why it’s available in store in Canada but not US

1 per household

means I can actually buy one now, but if I decide to sell it I wont be able to buy another for a whileee

A gpu is costing more than ps5

Really sad

A 3060 ti is being sold for 800$ on eBay

Absurd

This is why you need Canadian friends xD

Idk man but flying over to Canada seems like a good option to me

I can’t just leave work

You'll get an Nvidia 3070ti

Over a gpu

Maybe ask people in workplace if they have anyone there?

Find someone trusted to buy it for you (not here ⚠️ it's against the rules)

and then pay them through paypal or something

[quartz kayak]

I saw one selling on my local for 1099 eur

Almost cried

[jovial tide]

650$ before tax here lol

800 canadian $

it's not third party brands though it's like founders edition nvidia one

[quartz kayak]

The one i saw was evga if im not mistaken

With 3 fan aio

[jovial tide]

Yeah those are expensive

1350 pounds

lol sorry that's 2080ti

When will Best Buy do another restock

Ik they had it 3 days ago but its all out

Bestbuy sells it right now

[quartz kayak]

New case

[jovial tide]

@jovial tide in quebec these 3 have it

https://stores.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/qc/montreal/8871-boul-de-l'acadie

https://stores.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/qc/montreal/470-rue-ste-catherine-o

https://stores.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/qc/quebec/5401-boul-des-galeries

you can call and ask, they might even give you a deal so you can buy one providing documents + post fees

I'd really be happy if you can somehow buy one directly from bestbuy

[jovial tide]

beautiful how are the temps?

[quartz kayak]

gonna see that now

only turned it on now

[jovial tide]

looks beautiful ❤️

[quartz kayak]

😄

[jovial tide]

Remember to have your motherboard and graphics card softwares and drivers all installed

[cold elbow]

I got another computer for my consumption

Or

Another potato computer

[jovial tide]

Hi Ms Melon

I can come to Quebec

7 hour drive tho

[cold elbow]

Hey arash

[jovial tide]

Come to Quebec savage

Don’t I need to be living in Quebec it says household

Eeat some poutine here

Hear some Tabarnakkkk

xD

I'm pretty sure you can call them and figure something out 🤞

As I said they might even sell you something either way (with faxed/emailed documents or providing those in person)

[marble raven]

hey my game keeps freezing is there anyway to fix it

[jovial tide]

@marble raven #gta-tech-support

@jovial tide do u have anything that’s evga product

I can become elite member and once something drops it’s 24 hour early access

https://www.amazon.ca/EVGA-GeForce-08G-P5-3797-KL-Technology-Backplate/dp/B096WM6JFS/ref=sr_1_11?dchild=1&keywords=evga&qid=1630177370&rnid=5264023011&s=electronics&sr=1-11

1690 Canadian D

https://www.amazon.ca/EVGA-GeForce-Gaming-Graphics-06G-P4-2061-KR/dp/B07MJDBTD6/ref=sr_1_35?dchild=1&keywords=evga&qid=1630177413&rnid=5264023011&s=electronics&sr=1-35

and that's all

[quartz kayak]

where do i test temps?

gta?

[jovial tide]

what was the specs again?

[quartz kayak]

sec

[quartz kayak]

Ryzen 7 2700x
Wraith prism
Gtx 2060 tuf 4gb (OC)
ATX Asus TUF Gaming B450-PLUS II
XPG SPECTRIX D41 DDR4 8GB( x2)

[jovial tide]

ok question #1 drivers

you have latest geforce experience? and driver downloaded?

[quartz kayak]

yes

[jovial tide]

xmp?

[quartz kayak]

whats xmp 😮

[jovial tide]

hmm go to task manager -> performance -> memory

whats your speed in MHz?

[quartz kayak]

right now its 2666

[jovial tide]

you should enable XMP

you have to restart -> go to motherboard settings (I don't remember for Asus it's either DEL key or F2)

then enable XMP 1

Save changes and restart then come back to windows till you see 3200 or more in there

[quartz kayak]

ok sec

[quartz kayak]

I only have D.O.C.P and auto option

[jovial tide]

no XMP?

[quartz kayak]

No xmp

[jovial tide]

It should be like a circle on top

usually top left

[quartz kayak]

I know i saw an tutorial but its not here

[jovial tide]

if you have discord on cellphone send me pictures of your bios I'll help you out

[brave field]

DOCP is XMP

[brave field]

ASUS started calling XMP that around 2013

[jovial tide]

Oh ok

I didnt know sorry

It's also safe to say do a bios update

[brave field]

Nasty naming, "AXMP" and "DOCP" as names serve only to be different for the sake of being different. Almost Apple-inspired

[jovial tide]

Interesting. some models still call it XMP though, I helped a guy with MSI board it said XMP

[brave field]

its not consistent

[jovial tide]

true

Anyways what I recommend here is get AISuite then update bios through it

You can also see the temps with it on a second monitor easily + it'll do active fan control

[quartz kayak]

It now says 3200 Mhz on the performance tab

[jovial tide]

good good

now we go here https://www.asus.com/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/TUF-Gaming/TUF-GAMING-B450-PLUS-II/HelpDesk_Download/

select win10 x64

then download and install this

after installing and running this you should see your PC showing you more performance overall

Also Surf there's a bios update option in there, try updating the bios through AI Suite

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7q6c2PaZ6Y&t=106s

[quartz kayak]

Ok

Sec

[hearty stirrup]

why bios update its risky and not needed at all unless new hardware

[quartz kayak]

I do not have the "ez update" option on ai suite 3

[jovial tide]

it should be on the left

did you install it when you installed AI Suite?

@quartz kayak

[quartz kayak]

The bios update?

I did

[jovial tide]

yes yes

you updated the bios through AI suite?

[quartz kayak]

I didnt yet

It doesnt have the option thingy

And im having dinner

[jovial tide]

ok ok, send me screenshots of ur software when you can

we'll figure it out

[quartz kayak]

Oki

[jovial tide]

yeah seems like the ver you got doesn't have it

https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/14Utilities/AI_Suite_III_Setup_3.00.65_PPSU-2.00.51.zip

This one has it though

[quartz kayak]

i ll install it

[jovial tide]

How about system information does it have EZ update there?

[quartz kayak]

no

only system things

like

mobo fans etc

[jovial tide]

ok cool .65 it is then

[quartz kayak]

h yes this one has ez update

[jovial tide]

yeah

so you can check for the last bios

and it'll install it for you

[quartz kayak]

Alr its updating

[quartz kayak]

its finished

[jovial tide]

now back in windows?

check ez update again and see your bios version, what's it?

[quartz kayak]

3211

release date: 8/10/2021

[jovial tide]

hell yeah last version

we did it

[quartz kayak]

😄

[jovial tide]

you have 2 monitors?

[quartz kayak]

no am poor

only 1

[jovial tide]

hwinfo64

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFF7ZPHlvUw

easiest one is MSI afterburner

probably some wire in contact with the fan

well you can open the fan put some oil on it

or replace it

some info: https://www.techrepublic.com/article/quiet-noisy-computer-fans-with-a-drop-of-oil/

any mechanical oil would do pretty much

[quartz kayak]

170 fps on minecraft 🙂

[civic cloud]

Don't use WD40

It's not good

[jovial tide]

better?

[quartz kayak]

yes

[civic cloud]

You can just use it for a lot of things

[jovial tide]

Yes Mr Gaus it says in the website no WD40

[quartz kayak]

before it was like 160

now it goes up to 200

[jovial tide]

other than that lightweight mechanical oils would do

[civic cloud]

Make sure the oil can be used up to gpu temps

Maybe the bearing is fucked

How old is the gou

Gpu

[arctic yarrow]

Does anyone here have any tips on how to make parsec perform better when playing from a remote location?

[civic cloud]

That's not that okd

Isn't parsec a unit for distance

[arctic yarrow]

Parsec is also the name of a piece of software used to stream games from your main pc to another pc

[brave field]

Force HEVC encoding if either of your systems is using AVC encoding, especially on the CPU instead of the GPU

I think they'll have AV1 soon, which will help

[jovial tide]

Skipper in my place there are small oil packs like this you can put in the fans

And other mechanical stuff we call it wheel oil

[brave field]

The profiler shows how much latency (in ms) each step of the process is using. Lowering everything that isn't the network will be easier than the network itself

[civic cloud]

The article says seeing machine oil

Sewing

[jovial tide]

yeah the picture above is sewing machine oil

Also decent oils never damage PC components

[arctic yarrow]

That's h265 right?

[jovial tide]

in fact you can put the whole PC in oil and have it running

[brave field]

yes, h265

[civic cloud]

Not in every oil

And not forever

[arctic yarrow]

I forgot to mention, I'm using a 4th gen mobile I7

So I'm not sure if h265 is compatible

[brave field]

i7 mobile has h265 decode and some amount of h265 encode

Maybe not the full h265 encode spec though, give me a minute to look into that

[arctic yarrow]

ok, my main rig has an I7-7700k, so it should encode just fine. Would my 4th gen I7 work for full decode?

[brave field]

agh, fully supported hardware decode starts with Intel UHD, Skylake and its laptop equivalents

Not likely, unfortunately

[jovial tide]

Idk what this is but bitrate maybe?

[arctic yarrow]

I mean, rn I can run it with about 60ms input latency, and runs reasonably well with a few hitches here and there as long as I limit the stream FPS to 30

I'd like to see if there's a way to minimize or remove the hitches.

[jovial tide]

Now question what are you streaming to the second pc with it?

[arctic yarrow]

GTA

[jovial tide]

Can't you stream it through steam?

[arctic yarrow]

Steam remote play doesn't function well, if at all.

The reason why I switched to parsec

[brave field]

Steam remote is bonkers

[jovial tide]

I've never tried any sort of streaming other than GeForfce Now

too bad it doesn't support GTA

[brave field]

Expecting you to be using a home connection with ethernet on each device, and loves using the full 10 gigabit your router/modem can provide to stream between two devices

You can use Nvidia gamestream if you like Nvidia's stuff, it fits somewhere between Steam In-Home and Parsec in its network requirements

[jovial tide]

Can't it stream 100Mbps ethernet?

[brave field]

It can

[jovial tide]

Well it comes than to the network medium then

You can't even play good Geforce now with less than 50mbps wifi 2.4Ghz

[brave field]

Parsec "works" on 5mbps connections, Nvidia gamestream is pretty balanced, Steam in-home will use as much bandwidth as it can get its hands on

[civic cloud]

No idea what that is but good luck 🥺

[arctic yarrow]

Well, right now I think I'm in a good position with parsec, I would, however, like to figure out if I can improve it.

[jovial tide]

lol that's funny

[brave field]

View the profiler on your hosting PC too

[brave field]

Its possible there's a little you can do to lessen latency on both ends, outside of the network stuff

[arctic yarrow]

I guess h.265 isn't being applied despite me specifically requesting it.

[jovial tide]

Network 40ms

is horrible !

is it in the same local netowkr?

[arctic yarrow]

yeah, I'm not on the same home network

I'm about 15 miles away.

Using wifi

[jovial tide]

well idk xD

that +40ms hurts

[arctic yarrow]

I understand there's no way to fix the latency on that front, but I want to know what causes the stream to hitch up on occasion, and if I can reduce or eliminate it.

[jovial tide]

go give GeForce Now free version a try for your steam games (it should support some of them)

you'll see how much different a good cloud gaming service provider is

[brave field]

GFN is quite a different service tho

[jovial tide]

it's still streaming multimedia no?

[brave field]

Cloud gaming vs your own/a friend hosting + Parsec's server in the middle

[jovial tide]

yeah but I have the same problems with my 35mbps connection

[arctic yarrow]

Yeah, I'm more interested in streaming direct from my main rig.

[civic cloud]

have you tried googling "how to relube my pc fan"

@fallow forge

Also nice thumb reveal

Also very dusty fan, pls clean

[jovial tide]

open the middle of it

it might also be on the other side

sounds good?

ez xD

[hot goblet]

ay bro i joined randpms on parsec

[lost fossil]

why does mostly noone make white hardware?

[brave field]

Companies do

You can only find it by sorting highest price to lowest, though

[jovial tide]

@jovial tide got this

Micro center had them

Bought?

Yes

653$ total

Congratz bro worth it

It’s selling for 800$+ on eBay this version

See? local stores have them

[lost fossil]

i only know galax hall of fame and gigabyte vision (and also that one asus card) and that's it

[jovial tide]

Did they have 3070ti?

[lost fossil]

[jovial tide]

Micro center did but I joined a discord group and there’s a category for my location.

Someone bought it from there today and I went and got it

Good to hear

[jovial tide]

Yup

how much for 3070ti?

Around 1k

Jesus, bestbuy sells cheap

Or 800 something not sure

[lost fossil]

and when it comes to mobos there are like 1.5 mobos with actually white pcbs and they're all severely outdated

[jovial tide]

I'm actually tempted to buy one and sell for much more on Ebay the right time

[lost fossil]

the nzxt n7 is boring because it's just some plastic over a black pcb

[brave field]

It is entirely physically impossible to make a GPU with a white casing/backplate and price it under $4000

[hot goblet]

cookie

[jovial tide]

The thing is u can only buy 1 per house hold in that place

[hot goblet]

is it safde to joiun random people on parsec

[brave field]

If only people would just buy our sole limited edition $6000 white GPU model, maybe we'd make more SKUs of it

[jovial tide]

@brave field cookie Bestbuy Montreal sells Nvidia (not third party) 3070ti for 800CAD before tax

Like something similar to founders edition

This costed 600$ before tax

it'll cost me 920 CAD total = 730USD total

For that same version

No yours is 3060

730USD bestbuy buys me 3070TI

[brave field]

@lost fossil Are the white PCB mobos from MSI gone entirely now?

[jovial tide]

And it’s a oc edition

[lost fossil]

yes

[brave field]

Unfortunate, I thought they said white Mortar would continue to exist

[lost fossil]

isn't this the latest actual white msi mobo?

b360

[brave field]

Tomahawk Arctic is dead too, ow

12 best white boards
8 of 12 are brown boards with bits of white plastic on top

[coral knot]

is a macbook the best for adobe programs?

[jagged belfry]

Id say it depends

for graphic design mac’s are more popular

[coral knot]

I bought a mac for my study, a macbook pro with m1 chip

Is it really that good tho? havent tried it yet

[jagged belfry]

I mean the new chip is faster. But i do know there could be some capability issues

[coral knot]

But in alot of videos they say that the mac is way better in performance

oh alr

[jagged belfry]

But for adobe products it should good

[coral knot]

Alr ty

[jagged belfry]

Ya welcome

We tested one at my work

And it was some issued with a few of our apps

[coral knot]

And btw, the logging in takes sometime like 4 secs is it because its brand new?

[jagged belfry]

4 seconds is pretty fast

[coral knot]

with logging in i mean when i press enter with password

[jagged belfry]

For a M1 chip it would deff be fast

[coral knot]

ohh cause with my old laptop it was like instant

[jagged belfry]

Thats a pretty fast response time still if you think about it

Is it when you first turn it on

Or anytime you log off/lock it

[coral knot]

ye but its prob because the touchbar has to start

[coral knot]

everytime i just turn on my mac

i type in my password

press enter

and then it gives a loading bar

[jagged belfry]

Yeah first time logins after boot could take few more seconfd

[coral knot]

ahh okay

[jagged belfry]

If it took longer then 10 seconds id say it would be odd

[coral knot]

it will be faster when i use it more?

internet tells me that

[jagged belfry]

Faster in logging in?

4 seconds on boot is i think perfectly normal. Its not like windows where its an instant login

[coral knot]

ohhh alr

i am used to that

so i thought it was lagging or something

[jagged belfry]

I mean im not an expert but that sounds normal to me for mac’s to take a few seconds

[coral knot]

oki ty

but i should be able to use premiere pro easily? and render

[jagged belfry]

I would think so

[coral knot]

👍

i am getting adobe creative cloud tomorrow so i can test it then

[jagged belfry]

Sweeet

[fervent granite]

The thing with boot times is unless you completely turn off your Mac it’s basically instant

Even when booting from a complete shutdown it take at most 10 seconds for me

[kindred temple]

Well same for my windows system

And at stock you can have even faster boot

Because superfetch

[pliant lynx]

feel like buying another m.2 ssd

[jovial tide]

do it

Samsung Evo for the win

[pliant lynx]

or just a normal ssd

[latent drum]

Intel 12 and 13th gen looking so good

[jovial tide]

12 and 13 ? ":O coming out?

[latent drum]

12 this year and 13 next year

This year we get 10 cores i5s ,12 cores i7 and 16 cores i9
Next year we should get 10 cores i5
16 cores i7 and 24 cores i9

[jovial tide]

I'm gonna be so sad if my laptop on the way with 11800H gets shat on

[brave field]

I hope Alder Lake is a good budget option

[jovial tide]

Cookie can you believe it? ordered 20 July, dell sends me the laptop september 3 arrives sept 14

[brave field]

The 10100 and 10400F are entirely uncontested right now, its so weird having Intel be such a steal right now, but I like it in a way. Competition is great for the consumer!

[jovial tide]

sadge

[brave field]

July to September, ow

[latent drum]

It should be
I mean
People say
AMD IS BETTER THAN INTEL and stuff
In reality they are like 2% apart

[jovial tide]

Well AMD is more tinker friendly

Intel's like more oob

[latent drum]

Eh
I would say get whatever is cheaper
If both are at the same price i would choose intel tbh
Just because of AMD habit to cut corners

[jovial tide]

Good price though 3070 + 11800H + 240 Gsync monitor + 16 GB ram 3200 Ithink

[brave field]

sounds like a tasty laptop

but also a toasty one

[latent drum]

The monitor is TN or VA?

[jovial tide]

Wait let me show ya

Alienware M15 R6

[latent drum]

Dell , ew

[jovial tide]

10% first time buy off + 200$ off laptop on sale

2500 -> 2160

idk if it's tn or va 🤷‍♂️

[latent drum]

Seems to be IPS

[jovial tide]

how to find out?

[latent drum]

Its VA

Looked it up

[jovial tide]

It's good price then

[latent drum]

I dont like dell stuff but meh
Their materials arent that good

[jovial tide]

idk I've never had dell laptops ever

[latent drum]

Also customer supporr is trash for them
At least they are better than acer lmao

[jovial tide]

but I've heard from my friends their old laptops used to be very durable

acer's horrible

I have Aspire 5 A515-51G (8250u + mx150) it both thermal and power throttles

[latent drum]

You planning to portable it or just use it as a pc

[jovial tide]

use it as a pc for the most part

[latent drum]

Yea..

[jovial tide]

it should be equal to a 10th-9th gen pc with decent graphics card of that time

[latent drum]

Using a laptop as a pc is just awful

[jovial tide]

It works for me though

[latent drum]

Eh
You wont feel it until you switch

[jovial tide]

I have one of those 4-5 fan laptop stands + keyboard + mouse + xbox one controller

well I've had computers before

the only downside to this is small monitor

[latent drum]

Laptops gets dirty fast
Their paste dries faster and loud
Plus storage

Storage is just bad

[jovial tide]

I can just buy a medium range monitor and connect it to the USB-c as displayport

and enjoy life ;))

[latent drum]

Also pricing
Everything seems like rn but pcs are usually cheaper

[jovial tide]

Yep

But when there's temporary residence, the options will be limited

[latent drum]

Dont forget to take the bettery out while using in socket

But also dont forget to charge it atleast once every month

[jovial tide]

Idk I've heard from a hardware pro that you dont need to do that for modern laptops like more recent ones

they cut it out automatically

[latent drum]

Power still runs through it to charge

[jovial tide]

but this acer's battery got screwed probably because of connecting it to AC 24/7

[latent drum]

Not many laptops fully disable the charging
They just slow down the charging

But also at least discharge and chrage it once a month

[jovial tide]

people also say fully discharging it is not a good idea either

recharging stresses more when it's at 0

[latent drum]

Thats not how batteries work

When you disconnect it
Make sure its not above 80%

[jovial tide]

how much is a new battery?

I think if it's like 50-70 dollars after 2-3 years wouldn't worry me

@acoustic vigil

800CAD 3070ti

stores: https://blog.bestbuy.ca/best-buy/nvidia

proof: https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-ti-8gb-gddr6x-video-card/15530046

[kindred temple]

3080 is 80$ extra and is so much more

But yeah

3070Ti shall suffice

[jovial tide]

Ms. Claire I believe Bestbuy also has 3080s with price tag of 1030$ CAD https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-10gb-gddr6x-video-card/15463567

[acoustic vigil]

No store from me seem sell gpu

[jovial tide]

You can always go to those 3 stores and buy

this ->

[acoustic vigil]

I don't have a cars lmao. I just bought a rtx 3080 ti from ebay at 2069$ CAD (no taxes) My wallet is crying right now

[jovial tide]

oh sad

sorry to hear that

do you live in Quebec city?

[acoustic vigil]

Trois-Rivières

I will try sell my rtx 2070 super around 800$ to get some money back

[jovial tide]

Too far away, but still maybe worth to buy graphics directly

I live in dollard-des-ormeaux

[acoustic vigil]

Oh ok

But you sure best buy at montreal garantee graphic card at store ? I guess you need to wait outside for a long time too

[jovial tide]

Your place is equally far from both La Capitale and Montreal

You can call and ask if they have in stock (which they usually do) and then you need to bring proof you live in Quebec - they give you 1 graphics card rtx 3000 per household

3070TI for 800$ I think is worth the trip

https://www.google.ca/search?q=bestbuy+nvidia+rtx&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X

[jovial tide]

@vapid basin So wifi is a medium

Like cables, or wimax or your phones LTE

It does not necessarily define how much quality a connection has

Also internet infrastructure for the most part uses fibers, a shit ton of fibers

You only use wifi to connect to your local modem/router device then after that it's all some sort of cable/fiber connection

[vapid basin]

actually I use a fiber optic connection

idk if that correlates to what you’re talking about

like there’s a whole fiber cable going out the crib just for wifi

[jovial tide]

Idk how exactly it works for you

There are many possibilities when it comes to having an internet connection from an ISP

But all n all your ISP connects to the internet most certainly through fiber networks

Now connecting to that (end user to isp) isp might be through ADSL/VDSL/Wireless (wimax/lte/point to point radio of some sort/etc)/Fiber/Cable

[vapid basin]

thing is, I’m pretty sure using a vpn will indefinitely affect your wifi speed negatively. Which is why certain big service providers will offer you the best possible/fast server

[jovial tide]

And there's also uncommon ones like laser communications and satellite

[vapid basin]

and I’m not really a big fan of hampering speed

[jovial tide]

well it depends*

let me show you something

[vapid basin]

bet

[lilac fable]

what r good leds to put behind monitors and desk

[jovial tide]

I'm gonna try to find a good infographic for this

[vapid basin]

want the ones I got like

two weeks ago

are you from the U.S?

[lilac fable]

i live in ca so is it like different

oh

[vapid basin]

Cali?

[lilac fable]

canada

[vapid basin]

I think the seller is actually from Cali

Ohh

[lilac fable]

oh well thats fine

100%

[vapid basin]

go to eBay and search up led strip lights @lilac fable

[lilac fable]

what r they and how do they look

[vapid basin]

get em for cheaper

[lilac fable]

oh lmao

[vapid basin]

I can show you mine but my seller is based off Cali

[lilac fable]

yeah ill go look on ebay

do you have seperate leds for both the back desk and mointor

[vapid basin]

I don’t have my led connected to the monitor

cuz it’s like sticky stuff

A glue that holds it

and those shits get weak hella fast

[lilac fable]

wdym

[vapid basin]

Like the strip lights

the back of it has glue

[lilac fable]

yeah

[vapid basin]

to stick it to places

[lilac fable]

but are they like hooked up to the back of your monitor and the desk

like r they on them

[vapid basin]

no just my desk

I can show

You

[lilac fable]

shoot ok

[vapid basin]

what it looks like

[lilac fable]

i have leds behind my currnet desk just gonna get a new one soon so

[vapid basin]

oh ok