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significantly worse when compared to a 9400f
similar to the i7 2600, it released like a decade ago
i5 9400f is relatively new
2019/2020 iirc
Can anyone tell me what fps i should be getting in gta 5 online with these specs? Processor: i7 CPU 860 2.80 GHz Ram: 16: Card: GTX 1650 (MSI). yea my cpu very old -_-
Is that okay? @vapid grove
Are either of those good?
Intel integrated graphics are worse than AMD integrated graphics, so the New Turbo one is out of the question already. The GT1030 also isn't great for gaming.
Fucking hell why is this so hard lmao
i see videos for the i5 9400F same settings, same card and 40 fps, then i see a different video and it shows 150 fps???
@cold elbow melon they usually use coolermaster 500 bronze
ok so the 1650 4GB and 9400F will do alright for medium level gaming, AAA titles you'll probably have to minimum settings 720p it
What games are AAA titles??
and by AAA, I mean your FS2020 and Cyberpunk 2077, etc
whats a good cpu for the 1650 that will at least give 120 fps?
Oh those games are hard to run
But still if she puts a dedicated graphics card on it it'll run those just fine
What's fs2020
I struggle with Flight Sim at 1080p+ (2560x1080) with an RTX 3070, 5900X, 64GB RAM, and a PCIe Gen 4 NVME SSD
Flight Sim 2020 is just... BS hard to run xD
Don't think I'm ever gonna get flight sim lmao
So what games were you wanting to play, and what resolution?
I'm guessing 1080p for resolution correct? For frame rate we'll assume 60fps
I don't know abt the resolution ngl, but possibly gta but probably not, r6s, forza, minecraft, call of duty
the system we're discussing comes with a GTX 1650
Maybe others
9400 + 1650?
Yes, this is a different one
hmm, so for resolution let's say 1920x1080, it's a fairly standard resolution. I think your 9400F + GTX 1650 should be fine there.
how much was the last one?
600 I think
Lemme send link
ok, what's your budget for the PC (no monitors/peripherals etc)
Well, I do need a monitor, so definitely not too much. But tbh I'm not really sure because it's instead of a PS5
Idk how much vega 7 is different compared to 1650 4gb
but I know for a fact 5600G is a better CPU
You think one of the first ones I got was the best one yet?
The first one is a better computer - second one is a better gaming computer
I would've thought a gaming pc would be better than a normal pc, surely?
a 5600g is not a normal pc
the graphics card is still competent
I'm confusion now
So do you think the 5600g is better or the 1650 4gb one is better?
This is very similar to what I just threw together in a cart on ebay.co.uk, except I used a 500gb ssd instead of an HDD.
Came out to £660 without monitor/keyboad/mouse
What's it like?
It'd be very capable with a 1080p monitor.
Won't be able to play the latest AAA games at ultra+ settings, but high no problem
Lemme check the Monitor specs
The one u sent before is a lot better
Dw, I'm not worrying abt that one
I still think the ADMI one is best with an AOC monitor
I'm gonna send 2 links, gonna ask you and Arash and maybe the other people here which one is better
so this is the monitor I suggested earlier https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07FBVDRWL/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1
Yeah I've got that on my thing saved
Ur british?
Look on facebook market,gumtree,ebay for second hand pcs
I got mine for £350 and it runs amazing
My parents don't trust fb, gumtree and eBay for like electronics
Gtx 970
I5 4590k
16gb ram
2tb hdd
(Just mine but ye its an example)
Mine runs amazing
@jovial tide if you want one for now and not upgrade get the second link
If you want a future proof platform got for the first.
no
Make sure u see everything and test when picking up when get home fresh install of windows es
Ez
Btw the second is far better NOW for gaming
Also I think 5600G's vega graphics syncs with graphics cards for more performance somehow
Incorrect Vega 7 still has 1900MHz clock
I have a clock on my kitchen wall
Wdum
They said 16 gb ram...
It should be 2x8gb ram modules to enable dual channel feature
It makes your pc run faster especially with integrated graphics
So make sure you get dual-channel memory.
Well atm for that one, I'm not sure if it's 16 or 8gb of ram
In the comments they answered most of the comments saying it would be 8gb (2x4gb)
Ok I take my words back
1650 pc is much better for gaming
I would return it if it comes with one stick
but if you put a graphics card (even second hand) on that first one, it'll be much better than the 1650+9400
Obviously because it cost 200 euros more
no just 100
9400 + 1650 costs 100 more
And no hyperthreading
I know but we're making it more complicated than it needs to be
So here's my conclusion 5600G system (yeah specially with 2x8 dual channel rams 300MHz) is a far better computer and much more durable with acceptable gaming at low/medium settings without adding a dedicated graphics card. while second one (9400 + 1650) is a gaming pc out of the box with much more pleasant gaming experience.
Yes you are, it's okay dw
But if you somehow put a graphics card (even second hand) on that 5600G it will be a much much better computer overall
And last you lots of years without any problem
I don't think the 5600g one has 2x8gb ram sticks
I'm pretty sure it's 2x4gb

On their own website they sell it 2x8
@jovial tide specs says 16 gb
Do they? For how much
Description and answers to questions say 8gb
It says 16 on the title and 8 in description
Only way to make sure is contacting the seller
yeah I did it for her
we even checked their company id in the uk companies list
Yeahh, Arash did for me, very thankful 
seems legit with no prior legal problems
They said dual channel?
5600G and playing on low settings then after awhile when u have the money add a gpu
Yeah as i said if it comes with one ram module return it asap
Prolly 2x4
Hes saying all the bundles they offer are dual channel so prebuilt having single channel isnt a possibility
that's not the default one. it's just my mouse on it 
no it's the same prebuilt with different case
I mean its possible but not likely at all
So what kind of garbage ram they use that they don't even show its brand lol
Oh
U can just use free windows and not active/pirate
vengenance / adata?
3000 is not that bad and barely makes a difference over 3200
Does intel really benefit from higher speeds like AMD does?
The difference is in the memory rank and number of chips inside it
from that list these seem to be the options 
Not until 11th gen for b,h boards
9400 for example runs on 2660 max even if you use z board
Remove security
And if a normal ssd is cheaper than nvme in noticeable difference then pick that
U don't really need nvme
Wait lemme show you the options for that one
Show me for power supplies as well
Power supplies?
Also if u can buy a 2tb hdd 1 gets fillled real fast with shooters
If you cant then maybe reduce the ssd to 256
First one seems fine lol
Just cheapest 2 TB
Okay
Is that the psu?
Yes
There's only that selected one
Remove security
Oh
Well it probably comes bundled with the case so it makes sense
Yeah just use Malwarebytes and adblock
U don't need bloatware
Okayy
There are free and better software to use
Ah alright
How much its costing u now
Idk why i paid damn antivirus for 3 years
Let me go back to the website and do it again rq
Never paid for one lol
Once i got a key for caspersky for 2 year
Sent it to the trash
Costing £515
Was 13 didnt know shit about pc thats why i got shit parts for alot of money aswell
U selected 2tb hdd?
Yes
Then it sounds ok
Once u save up like 300$ u can get a decent gpu and upgrade that psu
That psu would be fine for 1650 super
But u are gonna need access to someones pc to install windows on ur own
Or even a 1660
Idk if they send the system with non activated or nothing at all i assume non activated then its fine
Would my dad's laptop work
Yes
Yeah
Okay
Ahh okayy, makes sense
We will guide you when that time comes.
you can buy windows licenses on the web for 10-20$ lol
my current pro license is exactly that xD
Windows install so much easier i tried linux the other day it confused me so much i decided not to even do it
Yes but u don't need a windows license
Okayy, tysm. This is if I can get it
Back to computer talk, Mwah I think what you built here is similar to what they offer
Yes okayy
They remove ssd give you windows 2x8 ram + 1tb hdd
Im gonna get drunk now
now for serious gaming you'll need to add a gpu to it
Can join?
Sure
Yes okayy, in the future maybe
Wait, what do you mean by serious gaming
No idea
Settings that are not low
We can also overclock that thing 
Also can apus do multiple displays?
Yes
Wdum by that
Making it a lil faster
How
Overclock=giving it more power to run it faster but it also makes it hotter so dont do it too much
Oh okay
This is a topic for another day
Also what mobo does it have lol for overclock it needs a mobo capable
Most people exaggerate when they hear overclock
What's mobo
Motherboard
450 I think
Asus B450M
Mobo goes a-z, a being the cheapest which isnt possible to overclock but anything besides that can do just depends how much u do it so get according to that
I think B450M is overclockable though
Yeah b is
You will feel like a no lifer nerd when you successfully overclock your RAM
I've learnt so much shit abt pc building and rubbish today and it barely touches the surface
Yeah i just bought the a series mobo cant be fucked with learning about overclock
A series is for moms
/cheap lazy asses like me
I thought you said A was the best?
A was cheapest and the only one that isnt possible of overclock
A also comes with garbage power delivery
it's not hard I've done it before
And very basic IO
B is capable and still cheap then z is top of the line
I dont think c-y actually exist but i might be wrong lol
I got a basic ass 1080p 60hz from hp? Was like 100$ bought it 7 years ago still works fine
Question is, is it too expensive for my parents? I mean, if it is I'm glad to take another Christmas and/or birthday off for it yanno
We don't know about your parents financial status
I know
We are fine anyway dw
I'm thinking of waiting until we move house tho
We have bought one and sold ours
You need a PC anyways kid
But a pc is something thats gonna last maybe a decade assuming nothing goes wrong
Solicitors just gotta do their thing and in like 2-3 months
I know
It says for gaming, but it's truly a good PC
For every use
Should I wait the possibly few months for the PC or get it as soon as I can hopefully lmao
also what are your passions in life?
Maybe you should ask them that question
U can wait awhile save up and get it with a gpu if prices drop
if they are anything computer related it should be enough reason to convince them
Have a small chat with your parents
Still 2x msrp mid range cards for me fml
Yeahh, engineering and the software for that for school. Plus homework in general and my 3d printer
So tell them exactly that, also tell them this would last you 4-5 years
I will dw
I have a keyboard from 2009
True, and it's not like I'm gonna be addicted to it because I love going out anyway yanno
Pc last for a long time because you keep upgrading
the beauty of AMD systems is it will last long
Things get slow clean it up reinstall that windows and it runs like new
If you get that 9400 one you can't just put next generation CPUs on it
Yess okayy
I'm very excited
AMD lets people update their motherboard software and put new hardware on them for a long time
Just gotta hope I can yanno
4 am gn
Maybe on Friday I will talk to my parents abt it or on Thursday when I'm at my dad's work I can talk to him abt it
I'm probably gonna go to sleep too because it's 2350, not that late but my phone is low on battery
Thanks for all the help guys, it means a lot, goodnighttt

hmm
GTX I use for outside
RTX On Inside
Sounds Perfect
The Laptop Im getting has a 3060 inside
10th gen i7
16 gigs of ram
144hz display
1,208 USD
the GTX has 60 hz
i5
8gb ram
1,898 USD
ok
its a 1650
I've got my eyes on about £1'000 worth of flight sim equipment
oooo
And seeing that Klarna works with any shop... oh god
I can't drive IRL due to disability, I don't think I'll be allowed to pilot a plane IRL either.
Meanwhile fanatec CSL Elite with a load cell pedal costs like 750 pound

I have that Fanatec setup, with a shifter and handbrake.
meanwhile I bought a rtx 3060 laptop for around 1000 pounds
But yeah, £300 rudder pedals, £330 yoke system, £140 HOTAS system, and and an £80 addon for the HOTAS, and £175 for the stand
For what games?
Uhh Just any driving game
Well depends on how many times youve spent on driving games that isnt forza or GTA 
Give some specific examples of driving games you want to play
Yeah no
Does it even support wheel and pedal set?
It does
Wat
Suprisingly
Wtf
My work laptop was $2300 and it doesn't even have a GPU. Am I cool yet?
I would like to throw that out
It sits in the corner of my room covered with a fine layer of dust
Just taking up space, might throw it out later
Looks like an arcade type driving game rather than simulation. You're likely better sticking with controller.
I use mine for cooking
Uhh What About This Game Called RFactor?
Possibly.

Hi Claire

We're getting somewhere here
We've helped 2 people find decent computers here
I'm proud of this channel 

Arash
So I am buying 2 laptops
One that's expensive but only has GTX 1650
One that's cheaper but has a 3060
Cool what's the use for them?
Gaym
So why 2

GTX is for outside
3060
ohhhhhhhh
I would get a ultra thin premium one and a gaming one
Yeah I'm getting a gf65
thought you were asking which to get, I've had a few drinks lol
why not 1 desktop + 1 laptop though?
Because yes
portability and cost?
Or just 1 actually good desktop replacements
Because
yeah - it's also possible to stream to the laptop via steam I think
yeah but who the eff watches steam streams?
answer: the same people that think the steam controller is good
Though, it does have that too
Steam link
the steam link is different than the steam controller
The laptop I'm getting
Looks Asus
This is msi :p
is that how it charges or is it dedicated?
Imagine connecting 2 display ports to those USBs 
Dedicated I believe
I hope
This is the uhh
1650 laptop
I think
Feels cheap man
Feels weird man 1850 usd?

1185

That's the 3060 price
hehehehe
;-;
I got my Alienware M15 R6

really
yeah ordered july 20 ships september 14
oh
G SYNC?
240Hz gsync yeah
WHAT THE HAILLLL
hmm
ya
@jovial tide
Imagine if
someone
took the gpu
from the laptops
and then
put on pc
Explosions
whattt the
possible in 2008
huh?
hmm
Ahuh nowadays they just shutdown
haha
ya
Also interestingly this laptop's kind of comparable to 9-10th gen desktop gaming pcs
which one?
mine or urs
a ok
I updated that laptop to make fun of fren
🙂
He has a prebuilt
8GB ONE STICK
2060
i5
I bought that laptop to make fun hehe
aren't you the chinese guy?>
import graphics cards bro
Alibaba is the way
uhmm i wanna clear one thing
just gotta make sure non of them was a 2070
I bought a 3090 last time there
it came ehre as a 2070
u can call me legend
Sorry that we dont know "Pronouns"
really? 😮
Henlo
i just said that no bro
Hi murdy
Scumbagz
and then you use that
for mining
and buy more 2070
to mine
AND THEN
YOU GIVE AWAY THE MINING GPUS FOR FREE
BECAUSE YOU EARNED YOUR MONEY BACK

dis aint USSR 
giving away GPUs for free, wack!
nobody does that
mining gpus (if taken care of) work well and can be sold at a good price stil
I know I remember you said you were Chinese and your family lived with u
no
I wish we had a sales section here
Or PC giveaway but it's the internet, people are weird
oh ya that remind me
I really gotta get a job
Investing dosent do well sometimes
really u think
they r just like u
Any kind of sales and trade is forbidden here
ohh
And by weird I mean people abuse other people in these scenarios
then idk about u
Dox them, send inappropriate things to their address, scam them etc
ok ok u know too much but it is good
yeah I got scammed 3000 bucks one time
I thought I was getting a 3090
but in reality
ohh
they sent me some very nasty stuff
kind of messed up
oh
Uhh I want to say what they sent
but I dont think its appropirate
Well you can say words it's fine
😮
Some satanic ritual maybe
it had maggots
OH YeAH
THERE WAS A VOODOO DOLL
and yeah
the rest of the day is
trying to scrub my walls off
because they were full of red paint
whoa they should have atleast not send that
lol
eww gross
Oh yeah
I forgot
My dads car back window
was broken
like shattered
so yeah I def got doxed really hard
ya totally i have so many stories to tell to
How old are you legend?
🔫
17
Ok good
Im 13
Teenagers 
;-;
How can you even afford GPUs?
Bitcoin.
yeah saw The value
Just a reminder that most legal crypto trading requires you to be a legal age.
ya and u like 29 bro

yeah
ok
Charlatanism 


whats the difference
You trolling or you fr
Isn't it nice?
if you look at his message history then you'll see that he posts this shit on a daily
please take a photo of that zotac card on top of the suprim box with a piece of paper saying adapang000#3342
inb4 ive returned it 
In which case youre bullshit, because ebay lets you keep scam items
New type of clout: discord replies
@lost fossil thanks for the minesweeper game
Good thing: just wait for 40 Series
(that`s what i'm doing rn, still using 1660Ti)

At least mine does work fine on most of the games I play without doing graphics/resolution(FHD) option adjusting
¯_(ツ)_/¯
You cant 

huh you can't insert Word-like tables inside a text box either 😐
looks like I'll have to attach an image of a table
I'd have to merge hundreds of rows for a 10 row table 
Lol he left the server
Charlatan

why why why
just use 4 column each then insert border
MWE 
It wont explode, but its bad.
I wouldnt run past SATA power, 12v ATX, and CPU power.
don't shoot the messenger
Im not shooting you
question why it doesn't run past sata 12atx and cpu
✍️
It's still got 425 available
yeah that option is starting look more attractive now 
So the one on amazon was 16gb?
That's the efficiency curve
yes dear
that means percentage x max watts
Yes
Uhhh idk what that means ngl
But u cant say that you have 425 watts available because power supplies have rails
graph min ~ 83x500 = 415
oh yeah I understand
But I think the one on the actual website is better because it's got more HDD and it's only £15 more
but no windows no addon wireless card
Wdum
so the one in Amazon has Windows Home edition license on it
plus a high speed wifi card (probably usb)
she won't but it's a plus. she can have
What would you use then
Well
Ethernet cable
Oh
Its gonna be static there
U can
You dont benefit from wifi especially when you just gonna have cable dangling about again anyway

Let me see if an ethernet cable plugs into my WiFi extender
IT DOWS
DOES*
So I can use the ethernet 
Is there an Ethernet cable plugged into that extender now?
Then fk that junk
Imo preferably, you should run ethernet all the way to the router itself
U need Ethernet directly from your modem/router
How would you do that without a cable on the ground
The extender is running by wifi so no point in using that
Oh
Oh
Either ways you will need an Ethernet cable
Can you split columns in Excel? (without inserting new columns)
Wifi 5GHz is fine though
NOOOOOOOOOO
Yes
Why can't you even use WiFi for it
You can Ms Mwah
What difference would it make
They are saying it's not ethernet quality
Because of wifi scheduling
It's awful for ping consistency.
I'd argue if you have good enough signal around the house and 5GHz you'll be fine
Also scheduling is not a problem with MIMO access points/routers
I said what i have
Who can put mods on my gta 5 on xbox
Don't worry let's take it step by step
So you first buy a PC then we'll think about it's connection
Yes okay
What they argue for is mostly correct ethernet is better than wifi, specially the usual one 2.4GHz
which is interrupted by microwave ovens at times :/
Wait, can you buy German keyboards?
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but if you can't connect a cable from your modem to it well you have to use wireless
Yes
Okay I'm getting one of them then
Okayy, I mean, I don't really know where the router would be when I move
Guys gigabyte psu isnt
Sorry my PC turned off
I was going to say
Oh shit my PC is on fire
Help


Yes
well it's fine you can always somehow connect a cable to it or get a mimo wifi router eh
Mimo?
multi input multi output
Other question is, why would you buy a German keyboard if you're not living in a German speaking country @jovial tide
Because I've gotten used to it on my phone now lmao
Wat
And I do speak German
something like this https://www.amazon.co.uk/Archer-C6-Wireless-Supports-Parental/dp/B07L5YRYF4/ref=sr_1_14?dchild=1&keywords=tp+link+mimo&qid=1629889398&sr=8-14
Well partly
Don't you have to pay monthly for them?
Ironic
I have the same exact router 
no
Yeahh, that
it should be fine for the most part
MIMO only plus is less congestion, on whats essentially a dying tech
No it's not
I can help you make it better if you want Melon
It's terrible

bruh you can even type in japanese with a normal type of keyboard
Idk how you do that
@cold elbow needs some tinkering
okay and?
Dual band wifi > MIMO
U just don't understand how wifi works
it is dual band mimo 

Gonna pretend like I know what's happening
Wifi is like using a single core cpu that clocks to 5ghz
And Ethernet is using 6 cores cou that clocks to 2ghz
The single core is fast yes but it still needs to wait to process tasks
I disagree again
If you have a 50Mbps internet connection with like 5-10 devices (not fully utilized) you should be fine
Especially when u add other wifi devices in the mix and noise floor goes higher
Yeah if you have more than that and heavy users it'll be problematic but most people are not like that 🤷♂️
It is not about the number of devices
That's a test for the router CPU not the wifi waves
It is though
Understand that the issue is with the waves
When you have 867Mbps total on a connection and you're only using 50Mbps
It is about bandwidth
Speed isnt the problem as well
We're talking about networking here mate
I think, until I move I will use WiFi and when I move I will see abt the ethernet
You can't just call a medium trash just because "oh wifi waves are bad"
U can use that wifi extender in the meanwhile
Yeahh I can
I hope I can get the PC
I can sell my shitty laptop when I get it back or just fucking smash it, doesn't deserve to live
what is the laptop 🤓
Some dell piece of shit, can't remember. It's been gone for like 6+ months so
Nah probably a year now
you can always reset it and make it faster a bit
It's got like 2gb of ram
You can also install some sort of Linux on it which is easier to run for low end systems
Nah I think it would be better to just sell it tbh
Then I could get like some more things ig
I gotta go have lunch, will be back in a bit
Can you ping me somebody so I can read down so I don't miss anything
@jovial tide
@civic cloud
@kindred temple
no problem :)
hmm, do I hold out for the Thrustmaster yoke or do I get myself the TurtleBeach?
For wheels and pilot controls
Always go for a good brand.
They worth every penny of QoL they bring to the table.
For flight sim, Thrustmaster is a good brand
Anyone else using Ghub?
I think it's collecting data of me
It's constantly using my network
ghub uh
Google? Github's app?
Logitech thing?
If the latter, yes
Their privacy policy is doodoo
check it with wireshark
see whats goin on
use those gelly beans 
Were you planning to sell the old thermal paste?
No, i had thermal paste... But not nearly enough for it lmao
Like an mini sausage thermalpaste
even better
Maybe buy some fans along the way
Since i only have like 3
Nvm i ll go tomorrow
Store closed like half hour ago 
The suffering starts now
No pc until tomorrow morning
@quartz kayak at least get good thermalpaste and fans
@rose lantern What issue are you experiencing that needs it?
?
That needs admin
tryna turn off realtime protection
to use mods in gta
but it wont let me since im not admin
ah

mods shouldn't need to you turn that off
but
press the start button, type "add user," and you'll be in the right menu
and when im trying to use an exe it no option to press yes
only no or close it
so no exe work
That looks unhealthy
Even as a non-admin, you should be given an option to log in as another user
sus

Tried turning it off then back on again?
tried
Do it again
you have to enable Administrator account
how
but you cant from an Standard account, theres a trick but its long to tell
was your account a standard account from the beginning?
or did it change automatically?
it changed after i tried to remove password
now admin is somehow gone
think it might be i somehow enter a local account
sethc time?
what do i do?
same thing actually happened to me months ago, first of all you need a live linux USB
what is a live linux usb?
or windows installation disk/usb (but this is harder)
u down to teach me what to do
yea ,I told you its a long way
no easy way to jsut give myself admin?
but its useful af, you can break into any password protected windows system xd
/gamemode c
Cant u just reinstall windows?
I know, im not gonna teach you to break password, but it uses the same method
then i have to reinstall everything on pc?
do you have access to Administrative tools in control panel?
yes
click on it and open Computer management
ye
go to 'Local Users and Group'
ye
double click users
ye
double click Administrator
untick 'Account is disabled' and click Ok, if it doesnt allow you, then you have no choice but the one i said, unless you install a fresh windows
denied
if i install a fresh window will i need to install everything on the pc?
or only windows
I tried looking for a brand new RTX 3080Ti for $650 but nobody wants to sell me that for that price. 😦
Im afraid that is true.









