tech-coding-math

[frigid echo]

Because that's just how it was.

That's how it performed

[light sinew]

So a $400 consumer cpu beat a $24,000 double wishy washy ultra convertible spaceship honka bonka super computer cpu?

Seems like a weird business practice

[frigid echo]

The Xeon line wasn't that impressive at the time.

and a super computer is built with thousands of CPU's not a single one

[light sinew]

Sometimes I wish I knew more about computers, tech, coding and all that but I’m in the minority where most of it genuinely bores and confuses the everliving shit out of me.

It is extremely important for everyday life which is kinda the only reason I barely grasp onto the topic

[frigid echo]

the i7-7700k has an average Passmark performance score of around 9700. Now back in 2017 it was number 3. The current number 3 spot is occupied by a Threadripper PRO 3995WX, with a score of 85,520 as an average. Give you an idea how far tech has moved.

[light sinew]

Oh yea amd really screwed intel over with how good their most expensive stuff is

[fervent granite]

I know a fair bit of each area but I've never been into pc parts in-depth like others

[light sinew]

Intel needs to actually innovate and do something for the first time in a while to catch up

[frigid echo]

that's why the tech side moved so slow for the longest, no competition to do better.

[fervent granite]

Apple has joined the chat

[light sinew]

I did basic research to build my pc but I guess what I’m trying to get at is I see so many people genuinely interested with this stuff as their main hobby or passion and I just cannot relate because I’m having trouble changing the why my files look like in explorer xD

Hardware is okay but I’ll never in my life be good at software

[fervent granite]

you kinda just pick up these things I guess

[frigid echo]

speaking of apple

[light sinew]

Any software confuses the absolute shit out of me

[frigid echo]

this is a little funny. The Apple M1 8 core CPU performs as well as an i7-9700k in paasmark

[fervent granite]

it is a highly effecient chip after all, but then again this is arm vs x86_64

[light sinew]

And the absolute worst part is the learning curve because in the tech or coding world a lot of people are pompous and expect you to know god dam everything and if you don’t you are looked at like a dumbass

[fervent granite]

Welcome to r/pcmasterrace

[frigid echo]

Very true.

[light sinew]

It’s weird to see apple actually making something and innovating instead of sucking on Samsung’s dingalong for quick bucks

They woke up I guess

[frigid echo]

I just don't get why people hate on the current i3 series and i5 series of chips now. They are pretty good for gaming and doing a lot of things that don't relate to more hardcore use cases.

[fervent granite]

Wdym? They've always used their own chips

[light sinew]

Lmao

I assume you are referring to the phones

A lot of stuff apple puts in their products is just other stuff that is wrapped in nice materials

[zealous pasture]

purpose built machines

[light sinew]

Is this supposed to mean something

[fervent granite]

I mean... they can't make everything themselves

[zealous pasture]

yes

[light sinew]

I don’t expect apple to make everything themselves and their phones aren’t all that bad because it is 65% of the entire company at this point

Which in turn led them to not give any shits about their laptops

Or desktops

Overpriced bad intel slow $600 ssd fan problem garbage

But it’s wrapped in fancy aluminum

So it makes it all better

[fervent granite]

They still work pretty well imo

I'm not sure how picky people are with ssd speeds though, but their computers perform really well for what they were meant to do

[light sinew]

A range rover works too, but the point is that apple sells you $600 worth of shit for $3000

And people eat it up

[fervent granite]

they have to make a profit after all so that makes sense

[light sinew]

And the ssd speed isn’t even the issue it is moreso the fact that they charge you $600 for a soldered on 1tb and it probably isn’t even nvme

The fastest nvme is probably half of that

They just have the audacity to do that because shiny aluminum

The college girl doesn’t know the difference

It’s a status symbol

[fervent granite]

imo, the problem with that argument is apple is never going to win against people looking for a bang for their buck

in this instance, you're basically saying a mcdonald's burger is better than that fancy restaraunt because its got more calories for a cheaper price

[light sinew]

But I’m not asking them to be the best, I’m just asking them to not be garbage for top dollar

They should be okay for top dollar

Or even shoot for good

It wouldn’t hurt

Computers aren’t like McDonald’s because we are talking about quality then

Any $2700 laptop

Will have better quality than a $5000 macbook pro

[fervent granite]

example?

[light sinew]

Literally search up any expensive laptop, look at the specs and the build quality if you can go in person

Apple is literally a niche and it works for them

But it isn’t good

[zealous pasture]

people go apple mostly for the bragging rights

[light sinew]

Their phones are literally the only thing saving them

[light sinew]

This

[zealous pasture]

(some go for safety)

[light sinew]

Subpar, top dollar

[fervent granite]

Or because they "just work"

[light sinew]

So just irresponsible spending habits?

Because an item is functional when it is new?

[fervent granite]

Because they're really good at what they do

[light sinew]

I guess it is like designer handbags as well

[light sinew]

Microsoft word, and youtube

Lnao

What else, maybe a simple editing software

[frigid echo]

To be fair to Apple. I kind of have not really heard of them having a build quality problem. Except for once with the 6S series being so large it would bend in peoples pockets - or was that the 7S

[fervent granite]

ms word still finds a way to fucks up my styling ffs

[light sinew]

It was the 6

[fervent granite]

yeah it was fixed in later phones

[light sinew]

90 pounds of pressure

[frigid echo]

I have an Ipod Classic 120 gb given to me and that thing still runs like brand new.

[light sinew]

They got the phones down but the markups on their laptops are complete cringe

They look nice and that is their only selling point, for people who don’t know what is inside nor do they care

As he said they work, so they sell

Like Maserati’s almost

[fervent granite]

They work well

[light sinew]

Haha

[frigid echo]

and working Well does show they care about the build quality.

[fervent granite]

What I'm saying is that you don't run anywhere near the amount of issues that plague windows/android

[light sinew]

What issues

[fervent granite]

no need to debloat, no need to disable telemetry (good luck), rare app crashes (imo)

and what's more is that these things are built to last

[light sinew]

The only software benefit is if you work for cyber security and want a copy of linux or just want something more user friendly

[fervent granite]

people still use the 2012 mbp because they're so much more upgradable than later revisions, and my 2015 model still works fine

[light sinew]

And the latter is personal preference in the end

The older ones are more modular because the newer ones are money suckers

[fervent granite]

duh, they gotta move on from legacy stuff at some point

[light sinew]

If a part goes wrong you are screwed but that goes for a lot of laptops

[frigid echo]

What you seem to not understand is the average user of technology. They are extremely more likely to screw something up on windows or android than they are on an Iphone or an imac.

[light sinew]

That is literally only because mac and ios are on child mode, they don’t get that stuff because they just restrict everything remotely near it

[fervent granite]

like what?

[light sinew]

95% of steam games, any site that isn’t a blue chip organization etc

They block anything 1% sketch in the name of safety

[fervent granite]

that's not really apple's fault though, it's the dev's that don't want to develop for macos

[light sinew]

It’s norton on steroids

[fervent granite]

I think you're forgetting that it's still a pc at the end of the day, you always have root access so you can let anything through

you could even disable sip if you wanted to

[light sinew]

“I think you’re forgetting” that my only point is apple does not even try anymore, they used to be more than the Louis Vuitton canvas bag of computers. They used to have innovation and cool things behind them

[frigid echo]

I worked in a tech business for around 8 years. I had a lady come in with a problem with her printer. She had shoved two black cartridges into it. The printer is only designed to accept a Black cartridge and a Tri color cartridge. But in her mind to print only black means I need two black cartridges. The printer and the cartridges are physically designed to not go into the wrong spots. She forced a Square peg into a Circle hole in essence.

[light sinew]

I mean back in the ibm days lmao

[fervent granite]

to be fair there isn't really much to "innovate"

all I've seen from companies is a faster processor and another camera basically

i'm happy with my iphone 8, even if it's like 3 years old at this point

[light sinew]

Apple just charges too much for the product they offer, and people who are unaware of the difference between a battery and a graphics card just think apple is the best because it is the most popular

It is solely a status symbol

I used to think that way because I’ve had macs my whole life

I got my first windows laptop in 2018

[frigid echo]

you missed out in the rough days of windows then haha

[fervent granite]

for real, I grew up using windows me

[frigid echo]

I had started on Windows 95

[fervent granite]

not sure if I got lucky with me then

[frigid echo]

after it was upgraded from Windows 3.1

[light sinew]

If I was making $2,000,000 a year and needed to find things the write off on my taxes then sure I’ll by the whole crew some macs but they would probably hate me because they can play any games on it lol

[fervent granite]

well they were never designed for gaming

[light sinew]

There is no design for gaming

[frigid echo]

you are just trying to make a fair argument comparing apples (Yep Apple xD ) to Oranges

[fervent granite]

that's what I was going to say

imo part of being tech literate is knowing the limitations of each os/pc

[frigid echo]

and what they were designed to do

[light sinew]

They were designed to make me spend $600 on a $75 hard drive

Their options are my biggest pet peeve

They aren’t cars

[fervent granite]

like I said, they're never going to win in a part-by-part comparison

[light sinew]

Whats with the 400% mark ups on every additional thing

Even if the 1tb hard drive was $200 I would be a little perturbed but not insane about it.

But $600 for that pos

I’m baffled

[frigid echo]

You are better off Arguing a Toyota Camry to a Rols Royce and complain about the mark up

[fervent granite]

and this is why I can comfortably use macos as my daily machine: because I can get my work done. I'm not a pc gamer so that bit doesn't affect me

[light sinew]

But cars aren’t like other products you can actually list why they are worth every penny

Things like designer clothing and apple are subjective

So loyalty is what sells

[fervent granite]

Hey I'm happy with the system I've build, but at the end of the day it really is up to preference

[frigid echo]

Oh so you can list why a car can be worth 20k versus a car worth half a million dollars so you can get from point A to point B under the same speed limit?

[fervent granite]

I can do something on my iphone and pick it up later using handoff on my mac, which can be unlocked with my apple watch. I can also answer calls/messages on my mac because it's connected with my iphone (something that just works).

[light sinew]

The a to b thing is irrelevant, but yea I can list why one is 500k and another is 20k
This argument completely leaves out the difference between price and value

[vapid grove]

something that just works

I feel like this is a big draw of apple products

[fervent granite]

it really is, and people are willing to pay a premium for stuff that does what it does well

[vapid grove]

Everything is simple and easily integrated in to everything else.

[fervent granite]

This entire time I've been saying that they'll never win in terms of value for your money

[frigid echo]

Fun times

[light sinew]

Does what it does well until a fan breaks and makes the whole thing overheat and melt into other parts, and since they are premium luxury pishy poshy they gotta use some fancy ass design that says fuck you to anyone trying to fix it, “you should bring it to us and pay more than your rent so we can do it for you”

[fervent granite]

Right, the fan in my 6 year-old computer

it heats up for sure but it handle it like a champ

[light sinew]

I hope they get sued for what they did with the iphone 12. Those fuckers literally made it so you cannot swap out parts by yourself even if they are genuine apple parts from another genuine device

Someone made a video about it

[vapid grove]

Wdym you cant swap out parts?

[light sinew]

He bought two iphone 12s and swapped the cameras

They phones became all wonky

[fervent granite]

the touch id/face id sensors I fully understand as that's an obvious security flaw

[light sinew]

The camera didn’t work

[fervent granite]

but yeah I don't stand behind that either

[frigid echo]

Oh snap some one complaining about Apple being Apple since Apple first launched their products?! I am SHOCKED

[vapid grove]

Hardware DRM?

[light sinew]

Bull to the shit

[light sinew]

Yeppppp

[fervent granite]

the fuck?

[light sinew]

Every part is specific and it will be like a car stereo where you gotta take it to the dealer to flash it

So more money when something breaks

[fervent granite]

the touch id sensor is literally tied to the motherboard because that's a good security practise

[light sinew]

Because apple

Security does not justify having part swapping restrictions even with new genuine parts

Same shit with their batteries

[fervent granite]

for crucial components that control sensitive information yeah

for displays and batteries though that's different, those should be user replacable

[light sinew]

$5 battery, it costs $49-$69 to replace it at the apple store. So I’d rather swap the battery myself and have a steak at maestro’s

Fuck that

[fervent granite]

to be fair that $5 battery may or may not be a genuine part

[light sinew]

It’s a battery

They are cheap as shit

[fervent granite]

by that logic you should cheap out on your pc power supply, same voltage right?

[vapid grove]

Lithium cells can vary greatly in quality

[light sinew]

No like an genuine iPhone battery

[vapid grove]

Yes

[light sinew]

They are cheap as shit

I wouldn’t put a knockoff in my phone

It’s not a pipe bomb lol

The arm chips give me hope that apple is becoming what they once were back when steve ran the show

Because I like the company, some things just seriously piss me off about it

[fervent granite]

for me it wasn't just about apple with those chips, they give me hope that we might take the next step

[jovial tide]

xbox drag racing

[lilac heath]

Samsung and AMD's partnership will be useful finally.
They might be able to beat Apple

[elfin lily]

coding = anger issues

[tame current]

Did the pandemic slow down the production of GPUs?

[cold elbow]

nope

[tame current]

I wonder what made PC part supply go down...

[fallow forge]

bro ever since i reinstalled windows my pc has gone to shit

BSOD every 2-3 days

chrome keeps breaking

[jovial tide]

working from home, stimulus checks, crypto hitting an all time high, etc

[tame current]

Oh

I guess all bitcoin miners are rich now

[brave field]

Nah, Bitcoin mining doesn't use PC hardware

3070 seems surprisingly easy to get.

Its not normal for a GPU this new to have >1% on Steam's hardware survey, which also doesn't even trigger most of the time for many Steam users. Of the users polled, if I'm not messing up the math, this comes out to 81.6% of users having a GPU under $300, higher than the 79% in 2019.

Info on how many of these were bought at MSRP vs above MSRP would be interesting

@fallow forge What's the error message on the BSOD? Do you still have issues if you disable hardware acceleration in Chrome?

[fallow forge]

critical service failes

and idk what hardware acceleration is

[brave field]

You'll find it in Chrome's settings, near the bottom. It doesn't directly do anything about the Critical Service Failed BSOD, but it might help Chrome be a bit more stable. Its helping some after Nvidia's 46x.xx driver updates/any of AMD's drivers since release.

[jovial tide]

3070 is definitely the easiest ampere gpu to get besides 3090

[fallow forge]

its mostly shit with dark modes and stuff

whenever i launch a page where dark mode is active, it flashes the light mode first

not a huge issue, but its really annoying

and audio random stops, and some sites just bug out to where it opens the mobile version on top of the desktop version

[jovial tide]

windows is garbage anyway

sucks i have to use it to play games

[lilac heath]

Try to game on a Mac

Angry birds

[cold elbow]

after BSOD do u check events viewer and how's the status of your BIOS and memory

[jovial tide]

mac gaming is awesome

playing roblox 24/7

[brave field]

FFS Microsoft

I go to reinstall Office because its auto-sign out "feature" makes the app think you're already signed in when you try to sign in again

The install finishes, and its reinstalled Onedrive, a load of updates for Legacy Egde, Silverlight plugins, and the Windows Update Assistant

why

[plucky raft]

Dont forget teams

[fallow forge]

@brave field i might have found a cause of my performance issues

my ram is at 90% usage when playing warzone

Im using 4x 4gb hyperx 2666-15 Fury Black K2 KHX

[fervent granite]

Man fuck teams, I know people legitimately use it but I wish it wouldn’t install itself without telling me

[jovial tide]

what do you have running in background

[fallow forge]

just discord

[jovial tide]

weird

i have high ram usage because i have so much of this rgb software garbage running in the background

12 gb of ram usage rn

[brave field]

Task Manager doesn't show all ram usage, which sucks

I've used RamMap in the past to see why memory usage is so high

seems to be superfetch or some sort of caching usually

[jovial tide]

BEST BUY

[brave field]

ooh

Looks like 3080 and 3090s 3070-3090 FE and third party 3060 tis are back

[fervent granite]

Didn’t know rgb software were resource hogs

[fallow forge]

but could getting new ram help improve things?

[brave field]

New, no. More will help if you're sure your performance problem is due to ram use though

But hardly anyone else struggles with Warzone with 16gb of ram, I'd find out if other processes are the problem

[fallow forge]

really nothing is using any significant amount of ram aside from discord at 500mb

warzone is using 5gb

tf is the other 10gb doing

is there a way to show everything thats using ram?

[brave field]

RamMap will show all the things using ram that task manager doesn't https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/rammap
If you have any software based on Virtualbox, like Android emulators, they might be running in the background, so try to force stop those. VMs don't show up in task manager/resource monitor anymore

[fallow forge]

seems like nothing big is running

theres a bunch of stuff running but thats all at like 50mb

these are the only ones that are >50mb in usage

[brave field]

What about the colored graph

Is any one category ridiculously large for no reason?

[fallow forge]

process private and mapped file are both huge

that might be it, those are at 8.5gb and 6.7gb

[brave field]

What's on the top for Total under the File Summary tab?

[fallow forge]

modern warfare

but theres like 30 different modern warfares there

[brave field]

Anything other than MW in the top 10 or so?

[fallow forge]

chrome

one

the rest is modern warfare

[brave field]

Whatever is in mapped file is likely the culprit, but if its not showing up when sorting by total, that's weird

MW, Chrome, anything you can run is in process private

[fallow forge]

still seems a lot since mw is only at 5gb

maybe in all the small ones in total

is there a way to see what is in mapped file?

[brave field]

The file summary tab is supposed to show that

[fallow forge]

oh

its basically all this

[brave field]

Is your ram usage still high when the game is closed?

and why is your PC cursed

[fallow forge]

if only i knew dude

when mw is closed it drops to 29%

4.7gb in use

with everything aside from task manager and RAMmap closed mapped file is still at 5.5gb

[brave field]

and the file summary tab when you click on Total is still not showing anything?

[fallow forge]

still only modern warfare stuff

[brave field]

unfortunate

Its a bit more normal with it closed though

90% usage shouldn't cause performance issues ingame but it is higher than expected

[fallow forge]

damnit

i thought i figured out why my game runs like shit

i7 7700k with a 2070s running warzone at sub 100fps on low dude

how

why

[arctic yarrow]

I have an identical rig, but don't play warzone. Do you have problems with any other games?

[jovial tide]

drop was so awful

[jovial tide]

might be cpu

it probably is since quad cores are starting to show their age

[fallow forge]

not that i know of

[fallow forge]

the wierd thing is that the performance is lower than when compared to identical rigs

[arctic yarrow]

Everything I see about warzone shows you should be getting 70-80 fps on medium settings with those specs.

[jovial tide]

all the drivers are up to date right?

[arctic yarrow]

Is your cpu overheating and thermal throttling?

[fallow forge]

yep

[fallow forge]

nope

[jovial tide]

whats the cpu ultilization

[fallow forge]

usually around 60-70%

iirc

[arctic yarrow]

what about the gpu?

[fallow forge]

gpu usage is <20%

[arctic yarrow]

Ok, so the game isn't utilizing the gpu much

[fallow forge]

and then ram usage is 90% or higher

[arctic yarrow]

Try going into your nvidia settings and set your gpu to high performance for that game.

You should be hitting 70-90% utilization on your gpu

Possibly 100% if warzone has fixed a few things.

[fallow forge]

setting it to high performance only lowers the render resolution since everything is already on low

[arctic yarrow]

sorry, I meant "prefer maximum performance".

One sec

Choose that in your nvidia control panel under "manage 3d settings"

[fallow forge]

my control panel aint opening

smh

cursed pc

[arctic yarrow]

Ok, maybe your nvidia drivers are corrupt. Turn off automatic driver updates on your computer, run DDU, then reinstall your nvidia drivers

[jovial tide]

dude im using 12 gb of ram and i havent even opened a game

thank god i have 32

[arctic yarrow]

Can I see a screenshot of your task manager?

[jovial tide]

gimme a minute

[fervent granite]

I hate that options so much

[jovial tide]

im tryna see how much ram gta takes up lol

[fallow forge]

clean and restart?

[arctic yarrow]

are you reinstalling your nvidia drivers? once you reinstall it after cleaning up with DDU, go ahead and reboot.

[jovial tide]

i am in a google meet rn though

i think all the ram usage is from the stupid rgb software

[arctic yarrow]

Ah gotcha, some RGB software is horribly optimized.

[jovial tide]

i have icue logitech shit and razer synapse downloaded

using 18 gb total

[arctic yarrow]

That'll do it, synapse especially

[fallow forge]

synapse is aids dude

[arctic yarrow]

IMHO, anything Razer sucks.

This is coming from someone who had the [NWORD], Blackwidow, and Kraken

Some reason the discord bot here doesn't like the name of the razer mouse.

ha bypassed it.

[jovial tide]

i just got rid of my razer mouse

my razer keyboard is next

from deathadder elite to gpro wireless

[arctic yarrow]

Heard corsair keyboards are pretty good, and I'm happy with my cooler master mouse

[jovial tide]

i like logitch now

[arctic yarrow]

Using a logitech keyboard rn, haven't had any problems with it over the past 3 years.

[fallow forge]

ran ddu, reinstalled drivers

[arctic yarrow]

G610

[fallow forge]

now there is a giant black square on my desktop for no apparent reason

[jovial tide]

jesus your pc is fucked

[fallow forge]

oh its a window

[arctic yarrow]

did you reboot recently?

[jovial tide]

have you tried updating bios

[fallow forge]

just now

[arctic yarrow]

ah, ya, probably a program you have set to launch

[jovial tide]

i had stability issues and a bios update fixed it might work for you

also it let me enable resizable bar

[arctic yarrow]

I personally don't like every single goddamn program launching on bootup.

[fallow forge]

my pc only boots up discord, ghub, gforce and AVG

[fallow forge]

nope

no clue how

[jovial tide]

what brand is your board

[fallow forge]

MSI

[jovial tide]

asus msi gigabyte asrock etc

does it have a bios flashback

button

[fallow forge]

MSI z170a gaming m5

no clue what that is

[jovial tide]

look it up on msis site grab latest bios and download it

tbh ive never flashed a bios the normal way lol

ive always used flashback

not sure if your board has it

[fallow forge]

my board isnt in the list of models

[arctic yarrow]

@fallow forge this it?
https://us.msi.com/Motherboard/Z170A-GAMING-M5

[fallow forge]

yea

im just gonna see if the driver reinstall did something

[arctic yarrow]

https://download.msi.com/bos_exe/mb/7977v1I.zip

There's the latest bios

[jovial tide]

https://rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-z490-g-gaming-model/ my board lol

actually imma download the intel lan drivers rn

[fallow forge]

welp, cant test warzone

spoofer down again

ffs

[arctic yarrow]

well shit. Hopefully you can get it fixed, but I gotta dip for work rn.

[fallow forge]

@brave field idk if its of any use, but of the 8.7gb mapped file is using 7.7 is stand by

i googled it and they said outlook offline storage used that or something

[brave field]

hm

one of the Rammap tabs

I don't know why its not showing what exactly, by its file name and all

could be outlook offline storage, or Windows Search Service, or windows update being weird

Outlook should be saving all of its stuff to disk though, not using up memory

[fallow forge]

at this point i just wanna yeet my pc away an build a completely new one

[brave field]

restart Windows

make sure the option to let browser processes run in the background is off, should be near HW acceleration on chrome

mapped file clears on a restart

[fallow forge]

its sitting at 2.8gb now

cant test warzone cuz the spoofer now tho

[jovial tide]

i rebooted and i use 6 gb on startup lol

@arctic yarrow you wanted to see usage

also sorry that i play on wifi 😦

[arctic yarrow]

@jovial tide Managed to get a break on my calls, can you screenshot the processes tab and sort by RAM usage?

[jovial tide]

ok

windows defender eats up ram

[cold elbow]

razer is full of bloatware lol

[arctic yarrow]

Ya, I hate windows defender too, mostly because it deletes the .exe files I make from python projects without asking me.

[jovial tide]

im switching to a custom board eventually

i already got rid of my razer deathadder

[arctic yarrow]

However, since you have 32gb of ram, you should be ok.

I'd probably disable xbox game bar too, since it uses up some GPU resources for no goddamn reason.

[cold elbow]

your used ram is 6 because u have 32gb ... windows like to scale with it to make your system more snappy

[arctic yarrow]

That too

[cold elbow]

i would recommend u to use the debloatter script

it will remove a lot of Microsoft junk

[jovial tide]

im going to reinstall windows soon anyway

[brave field]

What game, CSGO (guessing from the background)?

If so, you're either missing GPU drivers or your GPU doesn't support Direct3D 9

[polar iris]

yes

[polar iris]

so, basically, yesterday i had to download AMD software just so i could update my drivers, today i was gonna play ets2 and noticed i was having bad fps drops, wich was something i wasnt having , so , i unistalled the amd software since it was the last thing i downloaded

im installing it again, but idk if it will work

[brave field]

When you uninstall AMD's software, it assumes you want the driver gone too, yeah

You might still have the poor fps in ets2 though

[polar iris]

I don't really know why it dropped, since I didn't install any mods and stuff

[brave field]

GPU driver updates have a tendency to... suck, I guess. You'll want to roll back to the version you had before if it worked perfectly

[polar iris]

Aight I'm gonna do it rn

[kindred temple]

GPU driver updates have a tendency to... suck
Adrenalin in a nutshell

AMD FineWine is dead people, Radeon cant program driver for shit.

[brave field]

-Fixed a bug that caused higher-than-expected performance in 50+ titles
-Fixed a bug that caused Windows to not crash when watching videos

FineWine belongs to ATi and ATi alone

[kindred temple]

-fixed a bug where you have a stable overclock
-fixed a bug where you can actually use relive

[fervent granite]

-removed herobrine

[safe pilot]

anyone here good with php/html? I have an assignment that idk how to do

[restive sparrow]

i messed up i tried to foam mod my full keyboard someone help me

is there someway i can foam mod it bc its not working

[jovial tide]

my computer sounds like a missle about to launch when i play gta

i have a gtx 1060 and a core i7-7700k

but my mostly used "GPU" is Intel(R) UHD Graphics 630

[kindred temple]

Either youre using laptop, you forgot to install the nvidia driver, or you hook the monitor to the motherboard's port which is the wrong one. @jovial tide

[strong saffron]

Can OneDrive sync a file between two PCs on separate accounts?

[jovial tide]

If it's a laptop shouldn't it already be using the gtx 1060?

[kindred temple]

In power saving mode, no.

[jovial tide]

Ah

[fervent granite]

This file would sync to each account separately I believe

[strong saffron]

so changes by one person won't be synced to the other?

[fervent granite]

Not unless it’s actually shared through onedrive

You would have to have this file uploaded to account 1 and then share it with account 2

[strong saffron]

Then both accounts will have the file in their OneDrive folder and changes will be synced?

[fervent granite]

theoretically yeah

this works for office files like word or powerpoint files, but I'm not sure if it works well with other filetypes

[strong saffron]

alright cool. Thanks man

[fervent granite]

👍

[night timber]

do I need to learn HTML and CSS first before learning JS or I can just get started with JS rn?

[rapid lake]

You'll need to learn them all at the end of the day, but most people I know started with JS

You'll learn HTML along with JS

[tight pewter]

i nee help

need

my headset wont pick up anything

iits plugged in i know it

it may be because i connect a usb c into my computer ot play games on my oculus

[jovial tide]

replug it in

[tight pewter]

i tried

i tried resetting my computer

nothing worked

[jovial tide]

ive never used vr so idk what to say

[rapid lake]

Did you update Windows by any chance? @tight pewter

There's a big chance it's your drivers

[tight pewter]

i got it now, but thNK YOU

sorry caps

[jovial tide]

https://www.newegg.com/product-shuffle shufffle is surprisingly good today

[vapid grove]

This has happened a few times today when gaming on the TV. Screen turns green and the resolution goes all fucky. Any ideas?

[brave field]

This happen on any other displays?

[cold elbow]

As u knows HDMI does something like a handshake between gpu and the tv to tell it what resolution and color is supported
That sometimes because of cables or just compatibility not goes as planned and u see stuff like that

[vapid grove]

Have not tested any others

[vapid grove]

So could just be the cable crapping out on me? That would be nice.

[cold elbow]

Maybe

U gotta try things

[jovial tide]

Try a different cable

If that still happens, your drivers or outputs/inputs are fucked

[jovial tide]

I bought a wiredd pc controller and installed the driver for it but it is not working

[brave field]

Open the controller settings menu

It might be working fine, and you're just running software that only accepts Xinput/Windows.Gaming.Input instead of DirectInput or whatever else the controller may use

[night timber]

@brave field oy, just wondering if you can help me out, should I buy arctic MX4 or coolermaster master gel pro? the master gel is cheaper so I may go for it, but I just wanna know if it performs worse than the mx4

it's for GPU

[brave field]

I don't really look into paste often, sorry. Haven't heard of the latter but MX4 has worked very well the one time I needed it

[night timber]

ah, ok, thanks for your time

[jovial tide]

Well yeah I've always been on kbm, now trying to use controllers newly as i heard they are easier, where can i find that menu?

[brave field]

Press the start key and type "controller"

The option should be something like "Set up Game Controllers"

[jovial tide]

Okay thank you

[brave field]

If the controller is there, its working, but the software you use simply doesn't detect it

[vapid grove]

Out of curiosity why didn't you just get an xbox compatible controller? They work out of the box with no third party driver necessary.

Less than $20 too

[jovial tide]

In my country, they are 50$

[vapid grove]

Ah, fair.

[jovial tide]

Also i see it there with the status "OK", so why is it not working in the game?

[brave field]

Its probably a DirectInput controller then

Steam's Big Picture mode is probably your best bet

Depending on how it sends it inputs, you may be able to use BetterJoy for Cemu/Dolphin or DS4Windows or something similar

[jovial tide]

So it's something i download?

Or a setting

[brave field]

Try Steam's first, it might automatically detect it and have a preset

[jovial tide]

I don't buy my games on steam, so i should download it and try a free game there as a start? Or shall i try something else

[brave field]

Steam is useful to have downloaded without purchasing anything, its worth downloading

You can use its controller mappings for games you buy outside of Steam too

[jovial tide]

I usually go for the most easiest to use so no idea how I'm going to set up the things for the controller by it

who doesnt use steam anyway

I don't

how

I spent hundreds on the actual games launchers or any other shop

Didn't get used to steam

i like having all my games on steam

so i dont have to install more bloatware

and its all on one account

id rather pay 25 percent more on steam than use egs

only launchers that have other games are battle net and ubisoft but all the games on there \ were all free with my gpu lol

[brave field]

I like the competition between storefronts/launchers

but only when their launcher has something to offer

GOG is DRM-free. Xbox app offers being able to use Xbox parties. Ubisoft Connect has a pretty good rewards/overlay/challenges setup. Origin kinda sucks but you can play some games as parts download, and they attempt to be decent. Battle.net... meh. EGS though... outside of their free games they're complete garbage, buying exclusives, having the slowest and clunkiest launcher, and having 0 customer support

Steam is great but I really think there should be more than one that does all they do. Maybe if GOG picked up SteamInput, Steamworks, and the community market...

[jovial tide]

microsoft store/xbox app is complete garbage

i refunded mcc because the game wouldnt install there

They did take my money though lol

bought it on steam and it installed instantly

[brave field]

Glitchy and slow, yes, but it offers something unique

[jovial tide]

glad microsoft is bringing their games to steam

even if fh4 port is bad

[brave field]

I think part of it is their reluctance to let the Xbox app install Win32 apps instead of UWP

I don't think UWP has any inherent issues that make games just perform worse but

There just happens to always be an issue with the UWP versions of games

[jovial tide]

tbh only reason to use xbox store is if you have gamepass

[brave field]

My $1 for 3 months deal has refreshed 3 times now

[jovial tide]

i dont have gamepass so steam is more convient for me

how do you do that ive heard people doing it infinitely

[brave field]

I believe the infinite thing was people buying 1 month of Gamepass Xbox through Microsoft rewards and then applying a 1 year console gamepass code from a reseller which converts it into 1 year of Gamepass Ultimate

I don't do anything, it just comes back

[jovial tide]

oh lol

its funny how microsoft doesnt even care

like with people buying cheap windows keys

[brave field]

Its in ToS just to be covered, but Windows keys are pretty worthless

[jovial tide]

guess microsoft is too big to fail unless everyone becomes a mac user or grows a neckbeard and uses linux lol

[brave field]

They aren't really losing money directly over a code, most of the work is done on the software itself, which is free without the licence key

[jovial tide]

yeah windows is techically free unactivated

[brave field]

plus the Candy Crush bundling agreement has already paid for all the people who pirate or use OEM keys

[arctic yarrow]

I get annoyed by the activation message popping up, so I just buy a cheap key online and use the windows assistant to activate it.

[brave field]

Windows 7 and 8 keys work fine in 10 so that's my go-to

[arctic yarrow]

Most of the time, those keys are pulled from non-functioning units.

[brave field]

Even if the Home/Pro licenses were completely free to everyone, I don't think it would be a problem to M$ at all

They have enough people both backing and relying on them

[jovial tide]

@brave field well that's working, now how do i play the none steam games XD

[arctic yarrow]

Anyone else completely lost in "EZ mode" GUI bioses, but know exactly where to go in text based keyboard navigation bioses?

[arctic trench]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali474/p/N82E16883360059

this a good budget pc?

[kindred temple]

No info on what PSU theyre using at all

a tad overpriced imo

i expect 1650 super at 650$ or so.

[arctic trench]

ell it is a pre built

i really like it cause it comes with a keyboard

[kindred temple]

Hey, least theyre not charging 800 BUCKS FOR 1650 SUPER.

THANKS BLD.

[kindred temple]

so does dell

[light totem]

That’s not a really good reason when buying a pc

[arctic trench]

ik but even tho its a old cpu it seems decent

[nimble basin]

[fervent granite]

how do 1080p monitors display 4k youtube videos?

or for that matter, how do monitors display resolutions higher than what they're rated for?

[brave field]

Supersampling/downsampling

What YouTube and video players do is different from how it works with software that renders in realtime. The higher resolution image is scaled down to fit by youtube's own player and it does some secret Google magic to make it look nice.

For things rendered realtime, the GPU scales the higher res image and the average is taken from the colors in the extra pixels. Stairstep aliasing is cut down here, while with a video it isn't.

[fervent granite]

so if I tried to play 4k video it wouldn't actually be shown in 4k?

[jovial tide]

@fervent granite definitely not if you're using a 1080p monitor

The guy above explained it much better, but basically YouTube groups up 4 pixels (because 4k is 4 times the resolution of 1080p), finds the average colours of them and condenses them into 1 pixel.

Sometimes it'll look like the image (or video in this case) is sharpened because of the excess aliasing

Yo

[jovial tide]

Hey

Join discord

What discord

[fervent granite]

The one owned by Microsoft

[pure ridge]

notifications Please keep the chatter relevant to GTA and refrain from spamming or LFGing.
For non-GTA chatting, please visit #community
Requested by: @light dagger

[rapid lake]

[cold elbow]

look who's using a tool and ISO file now

[jovial tide]

my cell service broke

fuck

Ayyy

[fervent granite]

And that’s why I always have a windows iso ready to go on my external hd

[arctic yarrow]

I've got a 128gb flash drive with windows 10, 8.1, and 7 ISOs on them.

[fervent granite]

I’ve got xp, vista 7, 8.1 and 10

[arctic yarrow]

Then I have a bootable flash drive to copy them on depending on the use.

xp is no longer used in my household, so it's not that big of a deal.

[fervent granite]

I needed an xp vm to use pharmacy software

[arctic yarrow]

Gotcha

[fervent granite]

Yeah, shit is so old it actually uses some assets from win2000

I also use it to relive some nostalgia, I’ve got loads of xp era disc games I used to play

[arctic yarrow]

What games are those?

[fervent granite]

Nothing too major, just a diner dash and polar bowler atm

[arctic yarrow]

Gotcha. I still have a copy of Freelancer lying around that I boot up occasionally, but it works on 10 with some tweaks.

[rapid lake]

Diner Dash was one of my favorites

[fervent granite]

just takes a really long time because my laptop hasn't got a disc drive nymore

[arctic yarrow]

I'm so old-fashioned I still build every PC with a disk drive

[fervent granite]

when I build a pc in the future I'm definitely putting in a disc drive

I've got like 2 books full of dvd's that I hope to rip at some point

[arctic yarrow]

Maybe look at getting a bd-r/bd-rw?

actually, a bd-rw wouldn't be used that much

[fervent granite]

I haven't got a pc for that yet

best I could do is use a supedrive or something

[fallow forge]

@brave field Welp, turned out i ordered too fast and i ordered a single stick of 16gb

guess im going 32gb

[brave field]

ah

you'll know for sure if it was capacity then

[fallow forge]

i just spent like another 20 minutes doing optimisation shit

maybe this helps already but i doubt it

And DLSS drops in 3 days for warzone so maybe that will help too

[jovial tide]

maybe ill reinstall cod now

[cold elbow]

It's a trap

[jovial tide]

I figured out that my pc is filled with bullshit and now I'm resetting and deleting everything on it

[arctic trench]

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1612675-REG/hp_9ef33aa_aba_pavilion_i5_10400f_8gb_256gb.html/specs?ap=y&ap=y&smp=y&smp=y&lsft=BI%3A514&gclid=CjwKCAjwjuqDBhAGEiwAdX2cjxvX4x45waDIUmqWMjNxUWkSISkQ1ICWFnciYjQSr4Rv0bBK9FAMjBoCJpAQAvD_BwE

this any good

[jovial tide]

why doesnt intel just make stock coolers this good?

this just looks sooo good

[arctic yarrow]

Cuz intel is cheap? Also literally the only reason why they use shitty TIM under their heat spreaders.

AMD still solders the heat spreader to the die.

[restive edge]

the wraith prism isn't that great of a cooler, also noisy for others. I'd still hold on to that til I can get a better cooling tower

[jovial tide]

prism rgb is an awesome stock cooler but all the other ones from amd and intel suck

[jovial tide]

!leave

[iron pecan]

!leave <role>

Help

No description for this command.

[light sinew]

amd good

sums it up nicely

[brave field]

Who knows, they might try something new soon

Ryzen being so good has lead to 2019-2020 Intel being pretty great

yes 11th gen sucks but

Good new iGPUs this year, dGPUs are coming pretty soon, 10100/10400 being great value, B-series chipsets will have ram OC

I really hope the rest of the year and 2022 shows a healthier and more in-touch Intel

[jovial tide]

Can someone help me out, I really want to play devil may cry 5 but everytime I try to play in a mission it's always a fucking pitch black screen and I can barely see anything, I don't know what to do, my brightness is fine and whatnot but I always end up with a black screen

I've even tried changing the compatibility from directX12 to directX11 but it always reverts to 12 mid game

[jovial tide]

I even tried directx10 and it still didn't work

[median prairie]

I'm the standard-issue grinder last night it was the usual play as many missions as I can in my own time frame. Payouts vary from 7500 to 18k. While playing make ends meat last night I noticed the team I was with got paid much more for doing much less. My payment was 15k while the others received 20k that included a player at level 9 I'm at 90.

[stone harbor]

not gta channel

[jovial tide]

@brave field please help me out
Sorry for the ping

[brave field]

reinstall the game, try disabling any NVCP/Radeon Software-side tweaks, or try the black cutscene fix on pcgw

[jovial tide]

That's gonna take so long

24 hours is way too long and I don't have any time for reinstalling

Is there any other way of fixing this shit without reinstalling the whole thing

[brave field]

Does pressing Alt+Enter do anything for the darkness ingame?

If that/toggling fullscreen for windowed or borderless in the config fails, and the pcgw fix fails, and your GPU drivers are up to date, no clue. That's all that appears online when I search.

[jovial tide]

It turns it to windowed

I've tried doing the DirectX 12 to 11 thing and it doesn't work

sigh I'll just play the game with brightness up and contrast down or something, idk

[silent mason]

Let's continue here from #community
But yeah, I don't see a need to rush for a DDR5 compatible system. But I suppose with an ATX system I can wait. Possibly find a mini ITX board for my 3770K to use temporarily until a DDR5 compatible board arrives. Though it'll be interesting to see if AMD or Intel does it better. The ITX build is mostly just for displaying overlays on my streams.

[brave field]

ah

Makes sense if its just encoding

[silent mason]

It's not even encoding as such. Just displaying overlays, which it passes over HDMI to the encoder.

[brave field]

oh

So that mITX system is basically sleeping?

[silent mason]

It's a very light workload. At most, it'll run a stream triggered minigame.

Otherwise, it's just processing chat commands and displaying overlays

[brave field]

Your encoder, does it support AV1?

[silent mason]

h264. But I'm not on Twitch so

[brave field]

ah

AV1 encoding is looking to be ridiculous when its more accessible

[silent mason]

supports direct live streaming over ethernet using Real Time Messaging Protocol (RTMP).
That's all it says about encoding

[brave field]

No royalties, even smaller filesize to bitrate than HEVC/h265, and Youtube is already testing it for popular channels

hm

[silent mason]

But they still release new functionality for it, they can probably add in AV1 support

https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/uk/products/atemmini/techspecs/W-APS-15 this is the product I use

[brave field]

If someone can convince Apple to not block AV1 on their devices, it'll be a HUGE win

[silent mason]

I've got my eyes on the Extreme ISO model of that family

Then just grab some Blackmagic Micro Studio Camera 4Ks and some Pocket Cinema Camera 4Ks, get some glass for it (MFT), and away we go. The possibilities are endless.

yeah, I run a pretty bonkers setup 😂

[brave field]

extremely, wow

Oh, I was going to ask

That car stuff you were planning on getting, were you able to?

[silent mason]

And the best part is... while Trovo isn't included by default, you can bang in support for any RTMP feed via an XML file. They don't lock you to what they give you.

You mean the Fanatec CSL Elite stuff? Yeah I got it 😄

[brave field]

Just looking at some of the words and pictures here

[silent mason]

Fanatec is definitely enthusiast level stuff though

[brave field]

I know nothing about cars but everything about this site screams overkill

Like, these are THE car perif guys

The perfect term for looking at a site, and only being able to think "What is this shape in front of me and why is it $900"

[silent mason]

But yeah, this site, I can stream to it with my ATEM

That being Trovo. They use RTMP so it works great. Also, after the debauchery that was Mixer and constant breakdowns and issues, it's nice to have a place that actually works.

[brave field]

You mostly using it because of its RTMP support/Mixer's failure or do they have other incentives?

[silent mason]

After Mixer's failure I did go looking around. I like the community, a lot of the people I used to watch on Mixer went there, developers are competent and make sure things work before releasing them (unlike a certain Mixer that threw stuff at the wall and left it there even if it broke things)

I skipped Facebook Gaming though due to privacy concerns, I did try YouTube as well and didn't mind it. But I feel happier at Trovo

[brave field]

glad you're happy with it

[silent mason]

Honestly, it's a breath of fresh air being able to stream and not worry about everything breaking on the site

[brave field]

[silent mason]

yep, that's an actual button box and a shifter mod to turn my 6 gear shifter to 18 gear

[brave field]

Looks awesome

[silent mason]

is that from my past stream you grabbed that from?

[brave field]

yessir

[silent mason]

O_O

[brave field]

Should I delete?

[silent mason]

you might as well follow while you're there 😂

Nah, you can keep it up. But thanks for letting me see I really need to reapproach how I angle that shot

[brave field]

Euro Truck Sim 2

This is interesting, nice stream

[silent mason]

Yep. Iberia recently launched

I'm gonna do more of it to finish the event. Also gotta fix my audio issues... 😑

[fervent granite]

they should make eli5 versions of documentation

[brave field]

Documentation without examples should be illegal

[lilac fable]

what’s a good/better alternative for the matte white glorious model d

[zealous pasture]

@craggy geyser

so

you will get around 350 usd selling your ps4

and

sell your mac too

[craggy geyser]

Lmao

[zealous pasture]

and get a good pc

[craggy geyser]

I can't sell the mac

It's my dad-mi pc

[zealous pasture]

it will get you around 700

[craggy geyser]

[zealous pasture]

uhh

just sell the ps4 and use the bank moni

[craggy geyser]

Nah mac sells for like... 700$ I think

We bought it for 1200$

[kindred temple]

Do you ever have that stackoverflow moment

where someone mark it solved

and then the answer is

"nvm fixed it"

with literally no how

[vapid grove]

Literally every tech problem forum post ever

[kindred temple]

yes

basically

[rapid lake]

They made it work in a really non-professional way they would be embarrassed to share it

[tame current]

Hmmm, I saw a Gigabyte Radeon RX 6900 XT GAMING OC 16GB from an online shop being sold for only $309.88 but the seller has no ratings and no products sold. Legit or scam?

[kindred temple]

sauce?

[tame current]

I don't get it

[kindred temple]

i mean the link

source to it

[tame current]

I'll dm you the link

[jovial tide]

clearly a scam

the price automatically gives it away

unless its the cooler only

[jovial tide]

Help me.If i put a lower resolution in any game the fps does not increase,what to do???

[shell bough]

i can easil find your IP

and boot u ofline?

u are aware right?

[jovial tide]

Wdym

I have the same fps in 1280x960 as in 1920x1080

what game And what cpu/gpu

[eager tapir]

What software do u use?

[shell bough]

P

C

[eager tapir]

You boot with ur pc

Y lol

Just go to the mans house

Killing the mans router doesn’t show true superiority

[slow ice]

Does anyone know if it’s possible to use discord on my phone and hear Xbox game sound using an audio splitter? If so we’re would it plug into my controller or headset or phone ?

[brave field]

Should be possible

you'll need a line-in or a mixer or something that accepts multiple inputs. Most splitters split a 4pole into two 3poles, you just need two 3poles into one device to output it into headphones

[slow ice]

Ok

[unreal iron]

@brave field I have a request for something that I'm not quite sure what I'm asking because I have no bot experience.

I want a program like dank memer where I can que memes into and just post them on command from mobile without being near my pc

Or, posts an image from the queue on a timer

To a specific discord channel

If possible I'd like to be able to run a second instance, with a separate queue of images for a different server and channel

But idk what I'm looking for and if that's a bot, how to set that up

[brave field]

A bot can do that

You just looking to store and post images or to have the bot generate them like dankmemer?

[brave field]

@unreal iron ?

[unreal iron]

I have a storage of meme

And uh another storage of images but those are sorted into a great many folders

Would that let me omit specific folders kind of like when I queue them to be viewed in Picasa

[brave field]

Don't know anything about how Picasa works but you can omit folders

[unreal iron]

Ok

Is the bot itself named Cell?

Can I have it be me? When it's posting an image as me?

[brave field]

this is just some spaghetti code I threw together on my own, not a public bot

You can make a bot account with your pfp and name, but it won't actually send it as you. It would be selfbotting if it did.

[unreal iron]

I was about to ask if that's what selfbotting was lmao

Since I've never delved into bots

So open and set child folders to post from, set an interval, and then a destination in discord and away it goes?

[brave field]

You can really do anything with it

but the more you change, the more complex things get. Xero, if he's still on, is great at this stuff

that example above only works for urls/links, I think you need to use os or glob or something to search through folders. (Mr. Amazing Xero please tell me if I've done something horribly wrong. It works but is it conventional/good?)

img_urls = {'https://github.githubassets.com/images/modules/site/home/enterprise-city-w-logos.jpg'}
    @commands.command(name='something')
    async def pic(self, ctx, chan: int, *, time: int):
        await ctx.trigger_typing()
        await ctx.send(f"Sending an image to {chan} in {time} seconds")
        channel = self.cell.get_channel(chan)
        await asyncio.sleep(time)
        embed = discord.Embed(color=discord.Color(0x00ffff))
        embed.set_image(url=random.choice(list(img_urls)))
        embed.set_author(name=str(ctx.author.display_name))
        await channel.send(embed=embed)

[unreal iron]

Ok when I get some time later I'll ping him

[strong saffron]

If you're only sending to a pre-defined channel, you could also use discord webhooks

[unreal iron]

Do what

[strong saffron]

Set a webhook for a channel, and send a URL to the image to it so it gets posted there

Channel settings > Integrations > Webhooks

you need the manage channels permission for that I think

or some kind of permission anyway

[unreal iron]

noone ever gives me perms

Will I need perms to use any bot that just posts images?

[strong saffron]

If you're making your own bot, you'll need someone (an admin) in the server to invite it in

[unreal iron]

Oh well shit ok

So once it's in, you set those setting from a computer or

The only word with that I know is token

[strong saffron]

You'd have the code PC Building Addict posted in your bot script and run it wherever you host the bot

[unreal iron]

So copy his text and put it in a .txt?

[strong saffron]

in a .py. You'll need python 3 with discord.py installed to run that

also what he posted was just the command function. This is an example complete bot script: https://github.com/Rapptz/discord.py/blob/master/examples/basic_bot.py

To be honest you might find it easier to convince a server admin to give you a webhook URL to a channel than to let you invite your own bot in there

unless you're part of the server administration already

[unreal iron]

It's a friend he might let me bring a bot that posts images to one of the channels

So what do I do if I get permissions

Will that command script put it on a timer or on a command like pls meme or whatever it gets set to

Can I set it one one click further and make the command pull from specific folders, like "post Frank" posts from Frank, and "post bill" pulls from a sibling folder

[strong saffron]

You can do pretty much anything, you'll just have to code that in with Python

[unreal iron]

Ingot as far as hello world

[strong saffron]

you'll also need to make the bot 'account' and get a token. You can do that here: https://discord.com/developers/applications

here's an actual guide : https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/discord.html

[unreal iron]

I'll take a look at these when I get home then

Thank you!

I should ask if bots are viewed as a security risk. Like say I put it together and have myself and the other administrative staff is the only people capable of using it Is it viewed as a security risk?

Since I have so many memes that I don't have access to on my phone I was hoping to be able to set it up and then ask Omar if I could have it here as one of the places it's present, So that I don't have to worry about not having memes when I offload

It wouldn't be exclusive here and I know that we don't particularly do bots but the public can use

But whether or not it's permitted here would be an Omar question

But I want to understand his perspective

[strong saffron]

umm whoever has the bot token has full access to the bot. But what the bot can do depends on the permissions it's granted. For example if someone had the token for Zeppelin it could do some serious damage here because it can ban users, delete channels, messages etc

[unreal iron]

Are those tokens unique or hard to get

Seeing as a bott that can post images that has direct access to my folders of images could potentially be used to just spam if somebody else got a hold of it

[strong saffron]

BUUT the bot can also get a list of every user in the server and DM spam them or w/e without any perms sooo

[strong saffron]

pretty much impossible to guess. it'll have to be leaked somehow

[unreal iron]

Ok so a bot stored on my pc to post memes on my command isn't a huge risk outside of being weaponised to spam dm

Since the only perms it would ever have to be given would be s*** posting and a console

[strong saffron]

pretty much, yeah. But I doubt the staff will let you invite a bot to this server

[unreal iron]

I mean I figured I'd be declined here but I would need perspective for other servers that I wanted to ask in not just here

I Don't want to start making tweaks with other people's stuff and have it be my fault that something breaks

Without understanding risk

Don't go playing with toys you don't understand, kind of thing

[strong saffron]

if your only goal is to shitpost in a channel, you could look into the web hooks thing

You add one like this

and then with the webhook url, you can post messages. If I posted using the URL there, it'll show up like Captain Hook posted it

[unreal iron]

That's almost owner permissions isn't it?

[strong saffron]

I think it's manage channel or manage webhooks. It's less perms than what you need to invite a bot. They can create it and give you the URL. That way you won't need perms

and then you can send a POST request however you like.
eg: curl -X POST -H "Content-Type: application/json" -d "{ \"content\": \"[link to image here]\" }" [webhook url here]

[unreal iron]

what if the computer with the hard drive is turned off, will it work? Or is part of setting up a bot making a mirror of all of those images

[strong saffron]

if you're running the bot on a computer, it'll have to be turned on and online for the bot to be online

[unreal iron]

I'm not like amazon with datastorage facilities

[jovial tide]

how can i get better fps without going to a lower resolution from 1280x720

[unreal iron]

So I should put it on a computer that doesn't have a Sleep mode enabled

[strong saffron]

If you need it to run 24/7, yeah

[jovial tide]

but i restarted my cmos and updated and cleaned my pc

cmos was for because my pc would start up

[rustic cape]

https://www.amazon.com/Mytrix-Desktop-i5-10400F-Ethernet-Keyboard/dp/B092PPN66K/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?dc

Is this a good prebuilt?

and chat has been dead for about 4 hours

[brave field]

@rustic cape If you can get an $850 off coupon with it, its okay. Not as good as building something like this [https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6nx7Bc] + waiting for the next 3060 ti drop at best buy (totals around $1000 if the 3060 ti is MSRP)

$1,830 is terrible for it though

This "Mytrix" company is reselling Cyberpower's computers at a markup

[fervent granite]

That’s a little much for only a i5 yeah?

[brave field]

The i5 is fine really. Assuming relatively average usecases, there's not much benefit to an i7 and an i5-k SKU requires a more expensive board and a cooler

at $1800 you should be getting a 3080 though

and that's if the 3080 is $1200, not MSRP

[cold elbow]

They say recent windows update slows down games or makes performance worse

Anyone knows this?

[fervent granite]

It seems to be update KB5000842 which they recommend uninstaling

But this article suggests that there could be multiple updates affecting performance depending on the build you're running https://www.pcgamer.com/a-recent-windows-10-update-is-trashing-framerates-and-causing-games-to-stutter/

KB5001330 for 20H1
KB5001337 for 1930/1909

[cold elbow]

Ahhh gonna check later if i have that

Thanks

[fervent granite]

👍

[jovial tide]

windows 10 moment

[jovial tide]

what

[kindred temple]

You need a sound card kappa

[fervent granite]

Just like the good ol ad-lib/sound blaster days

[frigid echo]

oh man the soundblaster 16 days

[terse violet]

Damn, my man finna run GTA 4
Respect

[jovial tide]

best gta game

[terse violet]

Definitely, by far

[kindred temple]

but also the worst to run in PC.

The best way to experience GTA 4 is to hook PS3 to your goddamn monitor.

[jovial tide]

i never had a ps3 😦

[rapid lake]

I sold mine

[night timber]

programming with python tkinter

it's

painful

not painful in terms of complexity, but painful in terms of convenience

[eager tapir]

Not as painful as fucking Java on an application like BlueJ

[night timber]

dealing with java sucks ngl

[eager tapir]

Ye

I am good at JavaScript but that’s mostly due to the fact I am fluent in luau

[rustic cape]

Alright thanks

[eager tapir]

That looks like a fuckin bomb lmao

[rustic cape]

No it looks like something a cat would sleep in

[eager tapir]

Lol

Ye a cage

[fallow forge]

@brave field it would seem that the ram upgrade did.........

Absolutely nothing

[brave field]

sorry to hear that

[fallow forge]

ehh, i found a way to stabilise my performance at 80fps

i run rivatuner

and ISLC

and it barely drops below 80 now

[brave field]

great

[fallow forge]

and my ram was due for an upgrade

[brave field]

Do you have a good CPU cooler? Since your GPU usage is super low, a CPU overclock might help some, if you're limited by singlethread performance

[fallow forge]

Fractal design Celcius s24

i tried overclocking with afterburner a while back but i didnt see any real improvement

[brave field]

Afterburner is only GPU overclocking

[jovial tide]

use intel xtu

[brave field]

I'd guess since ram isn't the limiting factor and your GPU is sleeping, the CPU is being a problem

the thought of a 7700k being an issue is weird

[jovial tide]

games are becoming more multithreaded

7700k is probably the issue tbh

maybe do that thing linus did and install those laptop cpus on your motherboard for more cores for cheap lol

need a hacked bios though

[brave field]

I'd try a 4.8-5ghz OC if your cooler can handle it

if there's not much benefit, maybe around mid-2022, Intel 12th gen will be out and won't suck

please don't suck

[jovial tide]

somehow i can run 5.1 all core on my 10700k without my pc setting on fire

[night timber]

do you make roblox games

[fallow forge]

okay so how to i work with intel xtu

[brave field]

Intel has a guide to XTU and overclocking fundamentals here: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/gaming/resources/overclocking-xtu-guide.html

In the event you get a bluescreen, or a crash, or things act up, restart and you'll be fine, as long as XTU doesn't automatically open on startup

[silent mason]

And even if it does automatically open on startup, you can simply use Safe Mode to bypass that.

[fallow forge]

Lol

Got a bsod while running a benchmark in xtu

Just gonna not do any overclocking

[brave field]

BSODs are part of the fun. Would be weird to OC without getting one

What's your plan then? Wait for 12th gen?

[fallow forge]

not much

im not gonna mess with my system in a way i have no knowledge about for a single game

[jovial tide]

id wait for 12th gen

4 cores are becoming obsolete for gaming now

at least newer games

[brave field]

Ryzen was 2017, Intel was looking to still be ahead in games, and DX12 was being avoided in favor of DX11

Only 4 years later and the 7700k is on par with an i3 and games heavily favor 6c12t CPUs

4 years is ridiculously fast for that many changes

[jovial tide]

yeah

And consoles now leveraging more cores means games will start being optimized for that

[brave field]

Not too sure if consoles will have that much an affect

[jovial tide]

we will see

[brave field]

while its true the PS3's 10 "cores" wasn't really standard and the PS4/Xbox One's 8 were Jaguar, FX without the master/slave and FPU nonsense, I would've expected more multithreaded games from those times

[jovial tide]

now that consoles arent on a crappy architecture it might make a difference

[brave field]

We will see indeed

The next few years are probably going to show HUGE jumps in both CPU and GPU performance

or maybe AMD FX just sucked, Intel 2nd-7th gen had little improvements, and the last gen consoles were the weakest compared to PCs in a long time

I'm excited

[jovial tide]

tbh i just want open world games to run at 60 fps on console

especially 10 fps gta online

[brave field]

I don't think that's particularly likely until the next set of consoles

We'll see more demanding games, more detailed worlds

[jovial tide]

at least a locked 30 for the remastered editon

not 10

[brave field]

hopefully though

I think R* should backport DX12/VK to GTAV

Game is heavily singlethreaded which is why it runs so terribly on last gen and pretty poor on modern PCs too

I think for newer titles 30fps or lower will be the goto though

[jovial tide]

they probably will since game is switching to the more modern version of RAGE that rdr2 uses

thats what ive heard

[brave field]

I'm excited to see what happens to budget/low-end systems in the near future

[jovial tide]

https://wccftech.com/gta-v-enhanced-ps5-xsx-rdr2-engine/

[brave field]

when all the current issues clear up, it'll be interesting to see what happens to CPUs in the $100 price range and GPUs in the $200 price range

[jovial tide]

budget systems will be really good once the gpu crisis is over

cheap used rtx 2000 series cards

[brave field]

Even without the crisis, 16 series MSRP is overpriced, RTX GPUs are overpriced

I want some healthy competition and something like a 1070ti with RT and tensor cores under $300 someday soon

That could've been the 2060, or could be the 3050 ti or whatever they decide to name it, if they actually price it as such

[silent mason]

Unfortunately I don't see prices coming down. Even once the crisis is over, NVIDIA and AMD know gamers are willing to pay that kind of price. Why would they want the price to come down?

[jovial tide]

yeah

after tarrifs are gone aibs will probably keep their prices

[silent mason]

Those of us who think £1'000 for a 3070 is outrageous are the minority after all.

[brave field]

Eventually it'll be cheaper to just make cards out of failing dies on the next arch

Not in 2023 but maybe 2025

Not doing it to lower prices at all, just that it would be difficult to make something weaker than 16 series and sell it higher

[jovial tide]

i still got to get 2 more cards for family but at least i got a 3080 for a good price and not these bullshit tarrif prices

[brave field]

And Nvidia and AMD see that 78% of users on the Steam Hardware Survey owning GPUs under $300

Can't make money if the majority of customers can't afford it. Yes, there are people out there happy to pay $4000 for cards but they're a vocal minority

[jovial tide]

I’ll forever hate myself for doing this

[silent mason]

And for those, there'll be the 4010, which will have the performance of a 1030

But want a decent gaming experience? Pay up. For those vocal minority people... expect to see cards pushing the £50'000 price bracket

[brave field]

I think Intel is going to change things

They undercut Ryzen 3000 with 10th gen and I can see them doing the same with Nvidia's GPUs and whatever "RX 580 refresh that costs more" AMD plans to make within the next 4 years

[rancid snow]

im getting an RTX 3070

but im too lazy to build my pc so anyoneo have any pre built PC's 2000 and under?

[eager tapir]

No fiveM uses luau

Plus lua is not only for Roblox

[jovial tide]

yeah

is it just for gaming?

[rustic cape]

Well

Wait nvm

[rancid snow]

yessir

[jovial tide]

id reccomend maingar not the best value but have really good build quality and customer service

which is important to first time pc owners that dont know a lot

[rancid snow]

oh no ive owned like 3 pcs

[jovial tide]

built them?

[rancid snow]

nope

all pre builts

@jovial tide can u send me a link to maingar pls

in dms

[jovial tide]

https://maingear.com/ no clue where their custom builder went though

they got rid of the custom one so scrap maingear

[rancid snow]

dude

@jovial tide is CLX fine?

or is it kinda OP