#tech-coding-math | GTA Online | Page 199

rapid lake Mar 18, 2021, 5:24 PM

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True true

arctic yarrow Mar 18, 2021, 7:43 PM

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I have a gtx 950 just lying around and an empty pcie slot in my desktop, is it possible to have my 950 continually mine etherium while my rtx 2070s can toggle on and off depending on if I'm gaming or not?

brave field Mar 18, 2021, 7:49 PM

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yes, possible

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for whatever software you use to mine, you can just set the device ID for which you want to do mine with in its config file

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buuuuut don't mine ETH on a 950

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ETH's DAG is 4.1GB and the 950 only has 2GB of VRAM. Try some other coin, ~~maybe Raven~~ Raven's DAG is >2gb now, wow!

crimson sentinel Mar 18, 2021, 7:52 PM

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Mined ETH back in 2017
Left the PC on for a whole day
Nothing happened

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👍

arctic yarrow Mar 18, 2021, 8:33 PM

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so I can't mine etherium with a 950?

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Or is it too much energy for a low hashrate?

brave field Mar 18, 2021, 8:39 PM

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You cannot at all

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DAG is too large

arctic yarrow Mar 18, 2021, 9:14 PM

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I do, have a couple powercolor gtx 950s lying around from a failed budget build.

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The motherboard I used did not support video output on the PCI-E slot.

nova steppe Mar 18, 2021, 11:37 PM

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Cooling. If you can spread things out and put in more heat pipes and heat sink fins, you can get more efficient cooling

brazen mesa Mar 18, 2021, 11:39 PM

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Any1 know any good graphic cards under $1000usd

vapid grove Mar 18, 2021, 11:40 PM

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You can probably find a 1660 TI for around that price

brazen mesa Mar 18, 2021, 11:41 PM

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vapid grove You can probably find a 1660 TI for around that price

What company

brave field Mar 18, 2021, 11:45 PM

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RTX 3080 is under $1000 and it is very performant

kindred temple Mar 19, 2021, 12:04 AM

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I hope thats a typo for 100$

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in which case i would recommend you you hunt for HD7xxx or R7 260x off ebay or something, its not enough moolah for a GPU.

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150$ or so is the minimum overall.

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 12:43 AM

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Welp

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I guess it's that time already

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I switched the graphics card to the azus 1080ti and not it literally won't boot

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It started smh

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Qyall wanna see smth wild with this alienware

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The gpu is mounted sideways so it has an adapter to chane it

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But with the new gpu it freezes here

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And it makes a beep about once a minute

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 12:54 AM

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In BIOS, is SecureBoot enabled?

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 12:54 AM

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Is what

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It freezes there

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I have no time to press a button

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Ok it's not frozen it makes a sound that I'm pressing buttons but it doesn't do anything

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Airs something with the card

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It boots just fine with the old nvidea in it

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The nivdea has a plug for the power supply and this doesn't need that

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And I've had a different card in here that also didn't need it so it's not power draw

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 12:58 AM

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The first and second generation Alienware X51's BIOS has a hardware whitelist to stop people from upgrading

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 12:58 AM

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It...what

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Why?

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I mean because money but that's so much extra work

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Ok soooo what do I do

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 1:00 AM

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They make enough money to cover those extra manhours

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I can't guarantee anything but

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 1:00 AM

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Well I have a gpu now

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Lol

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 1:01 AM

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Dell support says to go into BIOS with the GPU you're able to use and disable secure boot, and then go to "Advanced" -> "Integrated devices" -> "PCIE Gen3" and allow it

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another one of their reps say enabling CSM, if given the option, may help

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 1:01 AM

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Uh

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Should I just...upgrade then

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 1:02 AM

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Well you'll want to try it out to make sure the new GPU works as intended still

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 1:03 AM

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I mean I just pulled it out of the box it should be fine...right?

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Oh and the list you gave me

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Is that ddr4 or ddr3 ram

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Cuz I can reuse the 16gb ddr3 pny I have now

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Oh it says ddr4

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Rip me

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 1:04 AM

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Never trust, anything can be dead on arrival

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won't be able to use DDR3 on a new motherboard, nop

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 1:04 AM

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Fug

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 1:04 AM

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though, you can reuse it if you get a secondary system that supports that

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 1:05 AM

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Ok so how do I start fiddling with bios settings

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 1:05 AM

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F2 before Windows boots with the old GPU

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as soon as it shows the Alienware logo

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 1:06 AM

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Ok

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I'm here

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I can go left and right

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 1:07 AM

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wiggle around with arrow keys until you can find secure boot and that "Advanced" menu mentioned

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 1:07 AM

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Ok

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Boot up numlock and optionrom display

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 1:08 AM

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Completely lost, send a pic

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BIOS/UEFI layouts aren't standardized

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 1:09 AM

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I have an i3-2120 shroom

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 1:11 AM

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advanced->integrated devices is there, should be able to move down to it with the down arrow and enable PCIe 3.0 support if that's and option and its disabled

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i3 2120 is still sorta relevant. If used i7 2600 prices weren't trash, that would still be capable

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 1:12 AM

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In pxe it gives me one choice Legacy PXE OpRom

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Is that it?

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 1:13 AM

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nope, nothing PXE

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Is secure boot under security or the boot tab?

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 1:13 AM

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Boot mode Legacy

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I can choose between UEFI or legacy

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 1:14 AM

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Leave it as is, don't save when you exit.
You're missing some options because your BIOS version is A03, while the posters on Dell's forum two years ago are on A14, many updates ahead

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 1:14 AM

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I don't see an option for Secure Boot

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It's not in any of the menues

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Security wants me to set a password

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 1:15 AM

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don't

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 1:15 AM

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Ok

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 1:16 AM

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just exit without saving, from what I'm reading here it seems you should update your BIOS first

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 1:16 AM

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Uh ok

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Is that like on dells website

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 1:17 AM

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yup, dell's site

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throw in your service tag or model number and they should have the option to download the BIOS update

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 1:17 AM

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My bios says "american megatrends 2011"

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ohohoho

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How do I get my service number

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 1:18 AM

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https://www.dell.com/community/Alienware-Desktops/X51-R1-GPU-upgrade-and-BIOS-update/td-p/6246749
https://www.dell.com/community/Alienware-General-Read-Only/Need-help-with-my-Alienware-X51-video-card-BIOS/td-p/5548701
These are what I'm reading, for reference

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your service tag should be on a sticker, printed on there if Alienware has the same stickers normal Dell systems have

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if not there though, they have an autodetect system you can use, or if you have the alienware/dell apps that come preinstalled, those can give you the number

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 1:19 AM

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This?

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 1:20 AM

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yup

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Warranty expired 2013 kek

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 1:20 AM

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Lol

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I've replaced the gpu, the hard drive, and the ram in this

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Well it's got the original gpu back in it but

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I did before I got my full and then sold it

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 1:22 AM

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ah

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if you keep the dell apps installed, they actually track that stuff, hate it

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 1:23 AM

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There were apps on this thing? Lol not with the new hard drive. I had em install windows and tanks

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 1:23 AM

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replaced, right. No apps!

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The drivers and downloads tab... set category to BIOS and OS to BIOS

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The dell rep in the support link above recommends updating through each version before jumping to A14, so you need to download and restart for A06, A07, and then A14 last

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 1:25 AM

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It just keeps taking me to the knowledge base

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 1:25 AM

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I believe Dell put their BIOS updates into their own BIOS updating app, so you won't need to manually do it

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support link should be here https://www.dell.com/support/home/en-yu/product-support/servicetag/0-aDVTY0h4YWpIRHJGMExkZkVMK1FmUT090/drivers

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 1:25 AM

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reeee

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That doesn't help me I don't have discord on the pc

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 1:26 AM

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use web browser discord WeirdChamp

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the app is just a chrome tab with its own exe anyways

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 1:26 AM

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Wow ok

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Yeah no

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I didn't even

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Wow

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 1:29 AM

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yesyes

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grab a06 exe, use, restart PC

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repeat for A07 and A14

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oh and uh, be sure to not have a power outage or have something mess with the BIOS update program while its doing its work

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 1:32 AM

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Ok found it

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What's this about a flash drive

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Can I just like download it to the pc and launch it

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Or do I need to dig up an old fat32

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 1:34 AM

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They want you to do it manually using a separate drive but they give you a whole .exe for it? Very strange, its usually just one or the other

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I don't know anything about the process for an Alienware so I don't think I can help much

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the X51 site says to just run the exe and it'll do it all for you, never mind

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unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 1:35 AM

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So slap it on the hd and let it fly?

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Wait can I just download them all

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And then run it when it's that .exe turn?

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So I don't have to keep logging in and downloading

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 1:36 AM

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yeah, just don't get them out of order, some boards really don't like that

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 1:36 AM

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Ok

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They're named and everything

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The fuxk

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A07 is a zip

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Wat

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Nvm

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Ok let break a computer

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Please start the application again

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Can I try 07?

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 1:41 AM

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The guy recommended doing them one at a time, but Dell's site sure doesn't make it seem like you have to do each update

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 1:42 AM

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brave field Mar 19, 2021, 1:42 AM

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I don't really know if any of them are mandatory, with most boards it would be stated

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 1:42 AM

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They all say optional

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Even 14 was "optional"

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 1:42 AM

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optional to have your PC work well \\\\\\\\\

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I mean for the upgrade process to A14

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 1:43 AM

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KEKW

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 1:43 AM

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site broken for me, I think

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 1:44 AM

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Nope that's what it says for me too

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I just pulled it up

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Soooo just fire 14 and see what happens?

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 1:45 AM

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I assume Dell has it covered then, since they don't even show you the older versions unless you go out of your way to find them. But do note that if this isn't the case and they don't have it covered, there could be side effects

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 1:45 AM

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I consign a billion souls to oblivion

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 1:46 AM

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just wack because other boards give you this in red letters

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 1:46 AM

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And wash my hands of it

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aPES_FranticWash

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haHAA

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You cheeky fucks

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 1:47 AM

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ah, covered

kindred temple Mar 19, 2021, 1:47 AM

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brave field just wack because other boards give you this in red letters

Idk why i can go to F1 to F60 no prob

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on my B450m

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 1:47 AM

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This is wack but... maybe try running A06 as admin?

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 1:47 AM

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Ok so....

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I did lmao

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 1:47 AM

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you right clicked and accepted UAC and all?

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 1:47 AM

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I what

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 1:48 AM

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oh, I'm guessing they just asked from the start since its needed to overwrite the BIOS

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right click the A06 exe, "Run as admin"

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 1:48 AM

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Yeah

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 1:48 AM

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o

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 1:48 AM

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And then it says please start application again

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Wait

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Imma try something

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So I tried to run 14 again and it says "bios update had been running"

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 1:49 AM

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Well that's unnerving

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 1:50 AM

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But when I ran 14 the first time when it failed, behind it was like a black bar for updating

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Like it has an app

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But now it won't bring that up

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 1:52 AM

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So its either updating despite saying it couldn't, and stopping it would be a disaster, or its not updating, and that stupid service is still running in the background, and you should stop it

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 1:53 AM

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something running

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Network service was JUST eating 97% disk

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Windows update has super high power usage

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How do I find this specific thing

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An alienware app?

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Nope none listed

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 1:56 AM

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no clue, sort by name
It might not be named something easy like "DELL Ultra BIOS updater extreme edition" either unfortunately

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 1:57 AM

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5 runtime brokers and 7 chromes

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WeirdChamper

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 1:57 AM

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7, kinda low

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 1:58 AM

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Now it's 9 for 3 tabs

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Brug

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 1:58 AM

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Include the top chrome with the number in parenthesis too

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 1:58 AM

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Nothing obviously named

quasi yoke Mar 19, 2021, 1:58 AM

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7 aint that bad

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 1:59 AM

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aPES_CryDrink

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 1:59 AM

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14 + who knows how many in the background list underneath

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 1:59 AM

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Why do I have a capture the flag loader

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No bios named things

quasi yoke Mar 19, 2021, 2:00 AM

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unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:00 AM

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Guess I'll just attempt to Restart then

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 2:00 AM

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A06 exe still not work?

quasi yoke Mar 19, 2021, 2:00 AM

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opera is worse than chrome imo

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:00 AM

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Nope

quasi yoke Mar 19, 2021, 2:00 AM

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What was the original issue tho

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 2:01 AM

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Opera is a Chrome skin with more things added, yeah

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:01 AM

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Alienware doesn't like new GPU so I have to disable the "don't upgrade pls" option in bios, but I have to update bios to have that option

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 2:01 AM

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Alienware X51 doesn't POST with a 1050ti in, Dell support reps recommend A14 BIOS

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:01 AM

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reeee

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Attempting a restart

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Wait

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D12 is boot options

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F12

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Or is it supposed to be f2

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 2:03 AM

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A thread in regards to the updater app not launching, this person has a 1050 ti as well https://www.dell.com/community/Alienware-Desktops/Alienware-X51-Bios-won-t-Update/td-p/6047449
The guy at the bottom recommends booting into DOS to do it, mayyybe wouldn't go that far

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Boot options is solely for swapping between different bootloaders or drives

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you need Setup to access any settings you can change

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:03 AM

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Ok

spring condor Mar 19, 2021, 2:03 AM

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unreal iron Or is it supposed to be f2

Iirc it changes for PC to PC

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Boot options on one of my Pc is the escape key

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:03 AM

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Boom

quasi yoke Mar 19, 2021, 2:04 AM

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spring condor Boot options on one of my Pc is the escape key

Depends on manufacturer/mobo

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:04 AM

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brave field Mar 19, 2021, 2:04 AM

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preem

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:04 AM

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Ok now let's see what I can do

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Nope

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Still nothing

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Moving them to a thumb drive

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 2:06 AM

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what was the error?

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:06 AM

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Mm

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Wdym

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 2:06 AM

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and you tried A06 befoer any others this restart, yeah?

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:07 AM

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A06 just says please "start application again"

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The only clickable is "ok"

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 2:07 AM

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ok

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:07 AM

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ok

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Guess I'll just fuck myself

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 2:07 AM

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Well, Dell service guy next up says to try it in Safe Mode

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:08 AM

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Ok how do I do that

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I know it's a thing I don't know how to trigger it

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 2:08 AM

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https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/start-your-pc-in-safe-mode-in-windows-10-92c27cff-db89-8644-1ce4-b3e5e56fe234

Start your PC in safe mode in Windows 10

Find out how to boot into safe mode in Windows 10 from Settings, the sign-in screen, and a black or blank screen.

kindred temple Mar 19, 2021, 2:08 AM

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Recovery, advanced startup

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:09 AM

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Uh

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 2:09 AM

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I really like the new Shift+restart shortcut, but its hard to remember, doesn't get used as much as recovery menu

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:09 AM

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Would windows being out of date be an issue

kindred temple Mar 19, 2021, 2:09 AM

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Nope

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:09 AM

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brave field Mar 19, 2021, 2:09 AM

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should not be an issue at all

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:09 AM

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Ok

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Safe with networking or just safe

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 2:12 AM

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with networking

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:12 AM

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Fuq

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 2:12 AM

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changes nothing in regards to the process though, so you're fine if you chose the other

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:13 AM

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Ok

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Launch 06 in safe mode?

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Nope please start application again

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 2:14 AM

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very cool Dell

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you could've had a useful error message, but instead of showing it to the user, you print "lol try again nerd"

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:14 AM

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ohohoho

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A14 changed

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Now it said "driver can't load"

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14 shouldn't work anyway but hey something new

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 2:16 AM

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Safe Mode stops a LOT of third party things from running at boot

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:16 AM

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I think this charade is about over lol. At this point I feel like I'm wasting your time

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You're here providing me with free help and Dell just be wilding

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 2:18 AM

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its fine, the part that sucks is that there seem to be no other options after this except overkill-looking solutions, like the one the poster upvoted at the bottom of this https://www.dell.com/community/Alienware-Desktops/Alienware-X51-Bios-won-t-Update/td-p/6047449
You can try it, just ignore the parts where they swap from Legacy to UEFI and back

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but if that's a lot, it might just be best to find another computer somewhere, anywhere and try your new GPU in it

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Don't trust something that comes in, even in new condition. DOA products suck and you'll want to be sure its not DOA before the window to return directly to the retailer is up, because AIB partners have terrible support. Even EVGA's is just decent

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:20 AM

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I see something about using rufus

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And dos

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The only thing I know about using dos is that like...for a car that's like literally opening the engine to change the pistons

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A "under no circumstances unless you have a replacement on hand" or literally every tool in the shop

spring condor Mar 19, 2021, 2:22 AM

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Rufus is just for creating a bootable USB drive I think

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 2:22 AM

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releases are here: https://github.com/pbatard/rufus/releases
You should back up everything on your USb drive before using it

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:23 AM

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Usb is blank

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Except for these files

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30 gig so it's past the 4g minimum

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 2:25 AM

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Follow everything except steps 9 and 11, since your Windows install is already on Legacy, for some reason

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weird that these exes are made to both work on DOS and x86-64 Windows installs

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:25 AM

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What do I download. All of these?

kindred temple Mar 19, 2021, 2:25 AM

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Cookie, why rufus when windows already have its own media loader thing

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😕

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 2:26 AM

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Rufus grabs FreeDOS for you, Windows does not

kindred temple Mar 19, 2021, 2:26 AM

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Okay, fair

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 2:26 AM

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@unreal iron just <versionnumberhere>p.exe

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p for portable, no need to have the thing fully install if its just being used once

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:27 AM

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Move the exe to the drive?

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 2:27 AM

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nope, just run it and rufus should appear

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:27 AM

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Do I want it to check for updates

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 2:28 AM

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no

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:28 AM

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Ok it's open, f

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Looking for the thumb

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Oh it's already loaded

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Status ready

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But I can't start

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 2:29 AM

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all the drop downs are filled in, checkboxes done, freedos is selected?

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:30 AM

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Freedom?

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FreeDOS?

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 2:30 AM

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FreeDOS, yes, that's what the dell support guy used to get the exes to run

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:31 AM

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brave field Mar 19, 2021, 2:32 AM

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yup, can't read a thing
If start is still grayed out, maybe try that check thing or the select button next to FreeDOS?

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:32 AM

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No it works after I hit freedos

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Ready is green

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There's some files on the thumb now

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Move the bios updates, or just 06

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 2:34 AM

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Dell guy says copy them all, but run one in DOS, then restart the PC, and then the next, and then restart, and repeat

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:35 AM

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Ok copied to thumb, restarting

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Wait how do I run one in dos before restart

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 2:36 AM

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https://www.dell.com/community/Alienware-Desktops/Alienware-X51-Bios-won-t-Update/td-p/6047449
https://www.dell.com/support/home/en-yu/drivers/driversdetails?driverid=1ddyk&oscode=biosa&productcode=alienware-x51

Alienware X51 Bios won't Update

X51 running on windows 10 pro, tried to update Bios on numerous occassions but it just wont let me, i am currently on version A06, when i try to install A14 it says i must update to A07 first, so i have downloaded A07 but when i try to install i give it permission and then it pops up and says " plea...

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just use dir to get a list of files, then type the filename and extension and press enter

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:37 AM

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Use for?

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Dir

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 2:38 AM

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lowercase

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:38 AM

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Win+r?

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Or in the cmd menu

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 2:38 AM

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Sounds like you booted into Windows and not DOS

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:38 AM

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I didn't restart yet

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I'm still looking at normal windows

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Rufus has files on the hard drive, with the bios updates

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 2:40 AM

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reboot, hold F12 when the logo comes up, choose your USB drive

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should be greeted with this afterwards ****

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something of the sort

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There, you type dir and press enter to get a list of files

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and then the BIOS updater app name

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:41 AM

#

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 2:41 AM

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yesyes

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:42 AM

#

Uh

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Alienw~1
Alienw~2
Alienw~3

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3 is the oldest

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 2:42 AM

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is that what the bios update exes were named?

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name will match with what they were in Windows

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:43 AM

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They don't lol

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 2:43 AM

#

yeouch

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:43 AM

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But they have sizes listed

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 2:43 AM

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I'd guess A06 is the oldest but I also don't know if Dell has you covered if you try to go straight to A14 on accident

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:44 AM

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Yolo

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 2:44 AM

#

or boot back into Windows and sort things out

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:44 AM

#

3 as the correct guess

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Updating

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Ayyyy

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HYPERS

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 2:45 AM

#

when its done, shutdown, F12 into DOS again, and do A07

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ah, Dell says it'll auto-restart for you and finish the update there, nice

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:47 AM

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It finished and brought me back to the dos page

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Die and go again?

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Dir

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 2:47 AM

#

nicenice

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yep, next one

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:49 AM

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Running checksums for fucks sake

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ohohoho

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Bios 07 at the bottom

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My keyboard isn't typing

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 2:52 AM

#

interesting

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:52 AM

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Since I'm at the main dos page just turn it off and then on again?

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 2:52 AM

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as long as its not still doing stuff, Dell's site says it finishes the update after it auto-restarts

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:53 AM

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Yeah nope

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Lit up like it should work

glad hawk Mar 19, 2021, 2:56 AM

#

Whenever I try to download rockstar games launcher it breaks on me.

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 2:56 AM

#

if you're sure its not doing stuff, go for it

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:56 AM

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Yeah nothing

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Can't even hit f12 before it loads dos

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 2:57 AM

#

PepeWorried wait what

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does the logo come up?

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:57 AM

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Yeah and the f2/12

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It's not accepting keyboard input

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 2:57 AM

#

if its still on the logo, no touch

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:57 AM

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But the board is lit up

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 2:57 AM

#

if its in dos, touch

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if its anything other than dos or windows, no touch

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:58 AM

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Well sure

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But I get the alien page then dos

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But I can't hit the F buttons or type anything like the keyboard isn't recognized

glad hawk Mar 19, 2021, 2:58 AM

#

You have a virus?

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:59 AM

#

WeirdChamper

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Tried moving ports

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 2:59 AM

#

very strange

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 2:59 AM

#

Still nothing

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 3:00 AM

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well if its not doing stuff (I said this before, didn't I? Whoops) turn it off, remove DOS usb, and boot into windows

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see if keyboard works there

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 3:00 AM

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Ok

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Yes it works to log in

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 3:01 AM

#

well, strange it was acting up then

#

A07 might work now in Windows, maybe?

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 3:01 AM

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I'm on 7

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Next is 14

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 3:02 AM

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ah, 14 then

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 3:02 AM

#

Yeah it's going in that weird app

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"reboot now?" Yes

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Fuck

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It took me to dos

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Turn it off?

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I don't see a choice with it

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 3:03 AM

#

shutdown if you're fully in dos and have control, remove dos usb

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 3:03 AM

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Dos won't type lol

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 3:03 AM

#

oh, right

#

still weird, should not be happening

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 3:05 AM

#

Ok trying it again because it didn't take

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Without dos

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Since I have a 14 on the hd

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 3:05 AM

#

yesyes

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 3:06 AM

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Hmm

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It isn't taking

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Still a07

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Even after restart proper

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 3:08 AM

#

unfortunate

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 3:08 AM

#

I cannot hit f2 or f12 in the loading page either

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It has to load to the welcome screen

glad hawk Mar 19, 2021, 3:09 AM

#

Can I get help, whenever I launch GTA V from my rockstar launcher it makes me switch accounts.

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 3:09 AM

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Head to Dell support forums I guess, with all three issues and all the things tried in detail

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Stumped

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@glad hawk Try #gta-tech-support, this is for non-GTA tech

glad hawk Mar 19, 2021, 3:09 AM

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Oh

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 3:09 AM

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Do I HAVE to have 14

glad hawk Mar 19, 2021, 3:09 AM

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Sorry lmao

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 3:10 AM

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Well actually it won't matter because my keyboard doesn't work before the Welcome page

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Something with my a07 broke that

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 3:10 AM

#

I mean, we don't even know if a BIOS update is THE main fix here, its just that every other person with an X51 and 1050ti that couldn't get it to boot and was stuck on the logo had it fixed by A14 + PCIe 3 option

#

Dell offers no easy solution themselves, there's no error message, no clues other than the experiences of all those others, which really sucks.

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Maybe try the 1050 ti now though 👀 ? And a CMOS reset might help the keyboard issue, but there's even risk there, because if you're using non-default settings and it DOESN'T fix that issue, now you can't get your BIOS settings back, euurgh

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 3:12 AM

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Hmm ok

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 3:17 AM

#

Sorry things weren't straightforward and quick 😭

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 3:17 AM

#

Ok so

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I still can't f2 or f12

#

But it loads now

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In the wrong resolution

#

Lmao

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 3:17 AM

#

oh, good, sounds like its working perfectly then

#

grab the drivers from nvidia's own site and things should be good

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 3:18 AM

#

It feels like I'm running in Safe Boot

#

With the wallpaper

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 3:19 AM

#

different wallpaper than normal? You might still be in safe mode

#

if you can access websites and such, safe mode with networking

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or Windows is being dumb

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 3:20 AM

#

No it's the right one but the way it's acting like it was in safe mode

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The resolution, the way it clicks

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 3:21 AM

#

ah

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 3:21 AM

#

It only took 3 hours

#

Driver is downloading

#

PepeLaugh

#

Oh

#

Ok

#

Pc sees 1080ti now and goes "oh hell no"

#

But that's an issue with the website innit

kindred temple Mar 19, 2021, 3:24 AM

#

Visa or Mastercard?

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 3:24 AM

#

Or you typed something wrong

quasi yoke Mar 19, 2021, 3:25 AM

#

GPUs in the UK are at 270% their original value, make sure theyre not as overpriced there before you buy

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pls

#

Just making sure

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 3:26 AM

#

<$80?

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 3:26 AM

#

Wait...this was supposed to be $80

#

PES_SweatWhat

quasi yoke Mar 19, 2021, 3:26 AM

#

Do you have the link?

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 3:26 AM

#

1050 ti isn't even worth that imo

#

it is pain, yes

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$260 for 1050 ti

#

$60, that's fair

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 3:26 AM

#

Yeahhhh

quasi yoke Mar 19, 2021, 3:26 AM

#

cz_pain

#

Link doesnt exist for me

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 3:27 AM

#

I paid $260 NergiSweat

quasi yoke Mar 19, 2021, 3:27 AM

#

500 for my 5700xt here

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 3:27 AM

#

NergiSweat

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 3:27 AM

#

260 is just way too close to getting an RTX 3060

quasi yoke Mar 19, 2021, 3:27 AM

#

is it?

#

Seriously?

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 3:27 AM

#

WaitWhat

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 3:28 AM

#

which blows it away and then blows away its remains and then blows away the prior gust of wind that blew away its remains

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 3:28 AM

#

Should I just take this back and ask for that then

quasi yoke Mar 19, 2021, 3:28 AM

#

^

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 3:28 AM

#

3060 is $330 but you have to fight the silicon shortage + AIBs wanting good margins

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 3:28 AM

#

Assuming they have a...3060?

#

Oh

#

So they're out of stock then

#

Because eit was already sold?

#

Lmaooooo

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 3:29 AM

#

Out of stock, yeah, but if you catch them at the right time...

quasi yoke Mar 19, 2021, 3:29 AM

#

I just came to ask if anyone has any experience with network analysis when a client is under attack

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 3:29 AM

#

Bots

#

Cart emptying thieves

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 3:29 AM

#

what kind of attack? 👀

quasi yoke Mar 19, 2021, 3:29 AM

#

Thats what im trying to figure out

#

for now all I can figure out is a TCP half handshake

#

full TCP and UDP scan

#

The rest escapes me

#

Guess its too niche S3hmmm

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 3:32 AM

#

networking and people who understand it are scary

#

javascript devs too

quasi yoke Mar 19, 2021, 3:32 AM

#

On my 4th monster and this is due in tomorrow

#

S3BocchiHyperClap

#

Back to GPUs

#

what are you all using?

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 3:34 AM

#

RX 580

#

@unreal iron Does is thing work with driver installed?

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 3:35 AM

#

Yeah running smooth

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 3:35 AM

#

games work, video decode work, encode work?

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 3:35 AM

#

Taking it for a spin in tanks

#

130 fps

#

KEKW

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 3:35 AM

#

preem

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 3:35 AM

#

88 in High

#

65 in Max for standard def

#

Should I attempt to install the high definition client

#

Or not since The rest of it is still alienware

quasi yoke Mar 19, 2021, 3:38 AM

#

no way

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 3:38 AM

#

Thats

quasi yoke Mar 19, 2021, 3:38 AM

#

Cant be real

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 3:38 AM

#

$200 less than what I paid

#

Brug

#

Oof

#

Yeah

#

That shit burnt on crypti

#

PepeLaugh

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 3:39 AM

#

Actually, I give them credit for their name not clearly being a bot, and its even more convincing that they have REAL pictures

#

very weird, its been a very long time since something so suspicious looked so legit

quasi yoke Mar 19, 2021, 3:40 AM

#

They even waited before making the listing

#

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 3:42 AM

#

this is one of those listings I'd try my luck on if I could afford to be $60 short for a few weeks in the likely event the account is deleted and ebay refunds everyone who bought lol

quasi yoke Mar 19, 2021, 3:42 AM

#

Yeah all sales are from the 18th of march

#

made between 6 and 8 pm

#

all 20

#

That was well done tho

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 3:43 AM

#

So it's a fake account?

quasi yoke Mar 19, 2021, 3:43 AM

#

Yep

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 3:44 AM

#

So what happens if he buys it

quasi yoke Mar 19, 2021, 3:44 AM

#

Seller doesnt accept refunds

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 3:44 AM

#

The seller backs out?

quasi yoke Mar 19, 2021, 3:44 AM

#

idk tho, im not an ebay person

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 3:44 AM

#

protected

#

ebay money back guarantee

quasi yoke Mar 19, 2021, 3:44 AM

#

1080s are currently going for $600 tho

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 3:45 AM

#

Item not shipped claim gets all the cash back

quasi yoke Mar 19, 2021, 3:45 AM

#

at least according to benchmarks.ul

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 3:45 AM

#

Right but what exactly is this account accomplishing

quasi yoke Mar 19, 2021, 3:45 AM

#

Maybe they think Ebay wont return the money?

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 3:46 AM

#

scam accounts are useless on ebay

#

You don't get your payout for at least 3 months (and you're 100% caught and banned by the first month), you don't get people's personal info, you don't make money from messing with the tax or charity or shipping payment options

#

literally pointless

quasi yoke Mar 19, 2021, 3:48 AM

#

If not you always learn something new

kindred temple Mar 19, 2021, 3:50 AM

#

brave field scam accounts are useless on ebay

Even with a "no return" listing?

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 3:51 AM

#

yes

#

can't return what isn't shipped at all

#

https://www.ebay.com/help/policies/ebay-money-back-guarantee-policy/ebay-money-back-guarantee-policy?id=4210

eBay

eBay Money Back Guarantee policy

eBay Money Back Guarantee covers most transactions on eBay. It means buyers can get their money back if an item didn't arrive, is faulty or damaged, or doesn't match the listing.

kindred temple Mar 19, 2021, 3:52 AM

#

What about wish?

#

monkaHmm

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 3:52 AM

#

wish has no customer support at all

quasi yoke Mar 19, 2021, 3:52 AM

#

Wish has always been more reliable than eBay

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 3:52 AM

#

they'll find a way to scam you even if the purchase goes well

quasi yoke Mar 19, 2021, 3:52 AM

#

with their 4 year shipping express time

kindred temple Mar 19, 2021, 3:52 AM

#

Yeah

#

Cant feel scammed if the product is stuck in the customs

#

Kappa

quasi yoke Mar 19, 2021, 3:54 AM

#

I always forget ive placed the order by the time it arrives

#

psu?

#

Connection between it and the card

#

So the GPU is working

#

If you are sure the GPU works

#

it has to be the cable or the monitor

#

Id rather try the GPU on another computer if you have any

#

off to the TV you go then

#

Try connecting the display cable to the motherboard directly

kindred temple Mar 19, 2021, 4:11 AM

#

@brave field hoo boy, dad got caught wind into cryptos.

#

I quickly explain at how at the end of it all itll go to BTC anyway (he's eyeing on VidyCoin, idk what the hell is that)

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 4:13 AM

#

vidycoin

#

interesting

kindred temple Mar 19, 2021, 4:14 AM

#

Twitter is shallow as fuck, reeks of ponzi twitter acc.

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 4:14 AM

#

another BAT/odysee/media platform coin

kindred temple Mar 19, 2021, 4:14 AM

#

Im downloading their 122-page whitepaper rn

kindred temple Mar 19, 2021, 4:14 AM

#

brave field another BAT/odysee/media platform coin

Which in indonesia is a hotbed of ponzi scheme.

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 4:16 AM

#

hmmm

kindred temple Mar 19, 2021, 4:18 AM

#

but idk, rn im telling my dad to hold.

#

Obviously taking conservative route here.

unreal iron Mar 19, 2021, 5:47 AM

#

Thank you pc for taking the time to help me

#

Again

finite zodiac Mar 19, 2021, 8:40 AM

#

I’ve been having a bunch of texture packet loss lately any fix?

vapid island Mar 19, 2021, 4:22 PM

#

#

I updated the colors of my set up a bit

brave field Mar 19, 2021, 5:23 PM

#

Nice

#

Two/three colors>rainbow RGB, yesyes

fallow forge Mar 19, 2021, 8:04 PM

#

fax

cold elbow Mar 19, 2021, 8:56 PM

#

machine

fervent granite Mar 19, 2021, 9:12 PM

#

facsimile

upbeat spade Mar 20, 2021, 12:29 AM

#

themed > rainbow

#

rainbows don't look good

kindred temple Mar 20, 2021, 12:45 AM

#

What if the theme IS rainbows?

kindred temple Mar 20, 2021, 1:21 AM

#

Crackpot theory: ongoing GPU shortage and scalping is caused by Intel so HPG would look good because it owns more stock than everyone.

#

Kappa

brave field Mar 20, 2021, 1:32 AM

#

If in some bizarre turn of events it was real, would not mind. As long as the GPUs they siphon away can somehow be used to better their own products, its for the greater good, or something of the sort.

kindred temple Mar 20, 2021, 1:41 AM

#

I mean, where that theory falls apart is the fact that its rumored that intel is planning to transition to TSMC 7/5nm anyway for alder and beyond

balmy kiln Mar 20, 2021, 5:00 AM

#

MFW I boot my PC off of an HDD

#

I bought two 512GB M2 drives as well as two more Corsair RAM sticks so my build will have even more fucking colours and shit to play with

#

I still haven't figured out how to change where windows boots off of so that I can stop waiting ten minutes to load my PC

#

Lol

kindred temple Mar 20, 2021, 5:29 AM

#

balmy kiln I still haven't figured out how to change where windows boots off of so that I c...

Generally, dont bother.

#

better off with a fresh install

balmy kiln Mar 20, 2021, 5:30 AM

#

what does that entail?

kindred temple Mar 20, 2021, 5:32 AM

#

Well, making media installer, getting new key if microsoft borked your old key (but they usually transfer very well), and waiting for a bit.

#

And also unplugging all storage so you dont accidentally wipe anything but the boot SSD, but hey

#

its not that much of a work compared to others.

balmy kiln Mar 20, 2021, 5:34 AM

#

alright solid, solid
will I have to delete anything off of my HDD before I install Windows 10 to an SSD? Having two drives with that stuff on there isn't gonna make anything fucky will it

kindred temple Mar 20, 2021, 5:36 AM

#

Its generally a good idea, but iirc it shouldnt cause that bad of a problem as long as your first boot priority after installing windows is the boot drive.

balmy kiln Mar 20, 2021, 5:46 AM

#

alright solid I'll have to look up how to remove it from the HDD then. Thanks for the tips! 🙂

fervent granite Mar 20, 2021, 7:23 AM

#

A legitimate Windows licence is tied to the motherboard iirc. Either that or your Microsoft account if you’ve got a licence linked to it.

#

That’s how it works for me anyway, I’ve got a Windows 10 Home licence tied to my account when it was still free, but I use a different edition of Windows.

kindred temple Mar 20, 2021, 7:57 AM

#

fervent granite A legitimate Windows licence is tied to the motherboard iirc. Either that or you...

Iirc the former is how the OEM key work, the latter is for the boxed key.

#

But some reported that linking ms account gives you the license link that allows board change regardless.

jovial tide Mar 20, 2021, 11:29 AM

#

can someone recommend me a software where i can make an order of keys to be pressed?
like quickly do H -> G -> Backspace -> Enter. all in order

kindred temple Mar 20, 2021, 11:37 AM

#

jovial tide can someone recommend me a software where i can make an order of keys to be pres...

Macros? I mean lets start with what your peripherals have.

jovial tide Mar 20, 2021, 11:39 AM

#

kindred temple Macros? I mean lets start with what your peripherals have.

are are they meant to have

#

if macros, no, i don't have any built in macros

#

only in mouse, but i need a keyboard macro

kindred temple Mar 20, 2021, 11:40 AM

#

Then to AutoHotKey it is, Jimbo.

#

Find how to script it... Somewhere.

#

I legit cant figure that app out myself.

jovial tide Mar 20, 2021, 11:41 AM

#

woah. i thought my goal sounds simple enough to do. does it require that rly

quasi yoke Mar 20, 2021, 2:36 PM

#

Macro Recorder is also a simple one to use

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 12:36 AM

#

@brave field I've come to bargain!

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 12:38 AM

#

hello friend

#

what is up?

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 12:39 AM

#

The lineup you gave me

#

Will that play forza or no

fervent granite Mar 21, 2021, 12:40 AM

#

quasi yoke Macro Recorder is also a simple one to use

I've only ever used macros in ms word, I don't like how the mac version doesn't include the vbs editor though

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 12:40 AM

#

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vFKR8J

System Builder

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 12:40 AM

#

I don't recall which this is. If I remember correctly, 10400/f and "whatever GPU you can buy?" If so, definitely, with your 1050 ti

#

Ah yeah

#

Prices have shifted a lot

#

and do you actually want that case? I just didn't touch because it was in there before

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 12:42 AM

#

So I have an amp and a dac coming

#

They're silver

#

I'd like a case that matches or complements that

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 12:43 AM

#

yipes NR600 prices, meshify prices, h510 prices

#

you care about space though, yeah?

#

I don't really know much about any small cases so you might need to find some

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 12:44 AM

#

Space on hard drive or in a case

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 12:44 AM

#

case

#

weight and size, I mean, for your moving and all

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 12:44 AM

#

I want as small as I can get it

#

Mini and micro are the right size, mid and full are too big

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 12:46 AM

#

yeah I don't know any in the same price range, sorry

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 12:47 AM

#

Oh hey I found my pny gpu

#

#

I have no idea what model itnis

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 12:48 AM

#

The only relevant change to that PCPP link is the ram, its gone up $6 since it was added, so here's a replacement that hasn't gone up $6 https://pcpartpicker.com/product/x2tKHx/silicon-power-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp016gxlzu320bdaad

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 12:48 AM

#

So that case is fine?

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 12:48 AM

#

I don't know anything about if its good

#

haven't even heard of it until you sent it

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 12:49 AM

#

Lol

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 12:49 AM

#

but it fits your motherboard

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 12:49 AM

#

Are there good/bad cases?

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 12:49 AM

#

so if your GPU fits too, its usable

#

yes

#

Bad cases are hard to put parts in or have 0 intake or 0 exhaust

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 12:49 AM

#

Ok so barring that

#

I have, and I hate it, a full case

#

I don't hate it but it's full atx so Id prefer to not use it

#

Sharkoon dg7000

#

I'd prefer to not use it because of its size but

#

Can these parts fit in something that big

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 12:53 AM

#

A fulltower fits everything

#

Many of them could fit two systems if they were designed differently

#

But if yours is more a larger-end mid tower, you just have to be sure the GPU fits

#

If so, then yes

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 12:55 AM

#

I mean it'll all fit but idk if that mobo be too small now and won't mount right

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 12:55 AM

#

It's a micro ATX board, your GPU is often longer

#

They'll mount correctly

#

It's a standard

#

ATX size standards include mounting and screw placement standards

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 12:56 AM

#

Ok

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 12:56 AM

#

Now if this is the alienware case...

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 12:56 AM

#

The alienware is proprietary

#

Unless you're saying I can yank all that out

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 12:56 AM

#

More than likely can't use the alienware one

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 12:57 AM

#

Why not, specifically

#

It has a cd drive that if removed gives me space

#

But if everything is standardized

#

Why wouldn't that case be ok

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 12:58 AM

#

Like with all the other proprietary components, they go out of their way to go against standards so you don't try to do what you're doing

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 12:58 AM

#

Like so the board is standard, but it's turned,

#

Kind of bs?

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 12:59 AM

#

Not just alienware for this, Dell in general likes to use BTX or custom sizes and mounting

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 12:59 AM

#

Oh

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 1:00 AM

#

still, we can check

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Find the screws that connect the board to the case in it

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IF its set up like this, you might be okay

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as long as the PCIe slots are also in standard orientation, and the front panel connectors aren't custom

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 1:01 AM

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How would I know

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 1:02 AM

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check its service manual and compare to any normal mobo

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but after checking the screws, if the screw holes don't match up its not worth spending time comparing the manuals

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 1:03 AM

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Like...book manuals that came with it?

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 1:03 AM

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No, they keep manuals online

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 1:03 AM

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Oh ok I'm like

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2011 no lol

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 1:04 AM

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oh lol

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Dell doesn't release service manuals for Alienware systems

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we can still manually compare front panel audio and usb on that to one on a normal board and see if it still fits

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~~or go without front panel ports~~

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 1:06 AM

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reeee

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 1:06 AM

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scammed

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its not in its normal spot, how strange

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 1:07 AM

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https://www.theverge.com/2012/2/3/2768432/alienware-x51-teardown-pictures#0

The Verge

Alienware X51 teardown pictures

We go inside the Alienware X51 to show you its cleverly compacted and easily upgradable internal components.

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The optical is the deck in the top right

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The bottom is the gpu

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And it has that adapter piece

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 1:09 AM

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Correct me if I'm blind and seeing things

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but is that two separate boards, with a 24pin coming from one going into the other?

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unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 1:10 AM

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That's ram

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 1:10 AM

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I mean the board under the ram

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 1:11 AM

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Uhh idk

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Mine is all one board

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Maybe it's a lifted deck

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No it might be two parts

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 1:13 AM

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That board looks standard enough, which was cool

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but that thing on the side...

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another 24pin, a molex connector, its own fan...

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 1:14 AM

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HTB1hMuMX6DuK1RjSszdq6xGLpXaf.jpg_640x640Q90.jpg

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That's the other part

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There are two parts

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 1:15 AM

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"Power distribution daughterboard"

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maybe its not worth reusing that case after all

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unless there's an easy way to get the 24pin and 6+2 and the 4/8pin for the CPU and plug it straight into the mobo and pretend that extra power distributing board doesn't exist, it seems... not worth

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 1:17 AM

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Lol

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I mean all that comes out

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For the new stuff

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Or are you saying that that daughter bored has to stay in and we'll get 24-pin connected to the new mobo

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 1:19 AM

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I dunno man

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If you know you can avoid using that board at all costs, try it, and plug things directly into the components they go to. Maybe test by putting the connectors you already have in their place without the board, and see if it boots up?

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if you HAVE to route things through that board, don't

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 1:22 AM

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Ok so

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What about the sharkoon then

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It's big but I have it PES2_Shrug

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 1:23 AM

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should work just fine

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your end goal is as small as possible though, yes? Youtube video with person for scale could be good for judging if you'd prefer a mITX board and mITX case, which will come out smaller than a case that fits the board in the PCPP link

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The large sharkoon will work until you're sure or ready to purchase though

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 1:27 AM

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So I guess I'm gonna do it tonight then

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 1:28 AM

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waitwait, do what?

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 1:28 AM

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Buy the parts

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Not getting any cheaper

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 1:28 AM

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watch video on mITX with human for scale

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you must, would suck to buy a mATX board and have all the case options be too big

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Its easy to buy a new case later but not as much with the board

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 1:29 AM

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Pcpp link?

kindred temple Mar 21, 2021, 1:30 AM

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Imagine mitx in a corsair obsidian 1000D

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Kappa

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 1:30 AM

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The one you sent https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vFKR8J
Plus the cheaper ram, instead of the ram in that link https://pcpartpicker.com/product/x2tKHx/silicon-power-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp016gxlzu320bdaad

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 1:31 AM

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Ohhhh

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 1:31 AM

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@kindred temple

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perfect

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second isn't even mITX and it still looks tiny

fervent granite Mar 21, 2021, 1:32 AM

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Was about to say... either that motherboard is just small or the case is just gigantic

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 1:32 AM

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1000D can fit two PCs... but with a bit better design, it could probably easily fit 3

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just has all this empty space for someone to put their $900 custom water loop to cool their Ryzen 5 that doesn't even get hot

kindred temple Mar 21, 2021, 1:33 AM

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brave field <@!328548777205956620>

Yes OkayChamp

kindred temple Mar 21, 2021, 1:34 AM

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brave field 1000D can fit two PCs... but with a bit better design, it could probably easily ...

But its 2 because its designed for whats essentially is a dead Twitch ethos

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"1 PC for games, 1 PC for stream"

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 1:34 AM

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If I showed you the inside of the sharkoon would you be able to tell

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 1:34 AM

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yeah, 1000D was behind its time. NVENC is too good, and AV1 is being adpoted fast

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 1:34 AM

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I swapped the ram in the lists

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 1:35 AM

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great, should be $6 cheaper or so

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Can't tell much about the Sharkoon from the inside, haven't heard of them until now.

kindred temple Mar 21, 2021, 1:35 AM

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Yeah now its just

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"get a turing gpu instead"

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The only thing i feel nvenc cant handle that i found out recently is warzone, but that game is so bloated now

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Its not even funny.

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 1:38 AM

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Do you know why NVENC would struggle with it?

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Does it leave little VRAM for it? The encoder itself is different hardware from raster, is it something shared?

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 1:38 AM

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Yes it'll fit

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 1:38 AM

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great!

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 1:39 AM

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brave field Mar 21, 2021, 1:40 AM

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MIDI tower

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somewhere between a mid tower and a mini tower, hm
You might want a mATX mini tower or just go for mITX then (if your wallet can take it)

arctic yarrow Mar 21, 2021, 1:41 AM

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brave field <@!328548777205956620>

What the actual fuck? That's an amazing case!

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I feel like that could be repourposed as a "2 gamers 1 pc" kinda thing, but with literally 2 pcs in it.

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 1:42 AM

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1000D is my dream case man

jovial tide Mar 21, 2021, 1:42 AM

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can anyone help me Im stuck in the loading screen in gta 5

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 1:42 AM

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#gta-tech-support

jovial tide Mar 21, 2021, 1:42 AM

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ok

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 1:42 AM

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If they remake the 1000D, give it an inbuilt KVM switch

arctic yarrow Mar 21, 2021, 1:42 AM

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Its more than half a grand tho

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Jesus fucking christ

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But now I fucking want it

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 1:43 AM

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ez, I'll just wait for 98% off like I usually do

kindred temple Mar 21, 2021, 1:43 AM

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brave field Does it leave little VRAM for it? The encoder itself is different hardware from ...

Possibly vram, i ran it on high settings

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And nvenc on max quality

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 1:45 AM

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An mitx case or the mobo

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 1:45 AM

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You'll need to move to an mITX mobo to use a mITX case

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 1:45 AM

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This case specifically won't like that mobo?

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 1:45 AM

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Currently, your link has an mATX mobo, which can be used with small mATX cases, but its not the "as small as possible" you may want

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nono your sharkoon fits everything relevant

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 1:46 AM

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The board is the medium right above tiny, it's made for a pc the size of my alienware

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Right?

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Like sizewise

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 1:48 AM

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maybe in length

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mATX cases can be taller or shorter in height and WILL be wider though

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Your GPU is at a 90 degree angle to your mobo with most boards, that Alienware uses a riser to change that angle, which you won't have unless you're able to nab it from the alienware (and then the case needs to have mounting for that, which almost none do)

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 1:59 AM

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I appreciate what the riser does but I really don't like the extra point of failure

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So you're suggesting I go looking for a case and start over so that I'm not rebuying a bunch of stuff later?

kindred temple Mar 21, 2021, 2:02 AM

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unreal iron I appreciate what the riser does but I really don't like the extra point of fail...

Riser rarely fails because it has no logic

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 2:03 AM

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What parts can become separated while trying to separate the card from it or the board

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But*

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 2:07 AM

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Look at some case videos on youtube, yes. I can't really gauge how big is too big or too small. If it turns out you prefer a mITX case, then the PCPP link can be updated to have the board swapped with one, so you get something small that fits how you like. Don't start over though, only the board will have to change (note your GPU's size will matter too)

jovial tide Mar 21, 2021, 2:19 AM

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can i make a key on my keyboard like 8 on numpad gradually increase its input sensitivity? not physically but something that would make it be detected as not a 100% straight away

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like throttle

kindred temple Mar 21, 2021, 2:21 AM

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Keyboard is a digital input, so no.

fervent granite Mar 21, 2021, 2:21 AM

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yeah it's either pressed or it isn't, there's no in-between

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 2:23 AM

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I think he's more wanting the on off to trigger a spin up and spin down

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Not sure what input sensetivitt he's wanting

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Just use the mouse sensetiflvity things built in

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Ez

jovial tide Mar 21, 2021, 2:24 AM

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err. ok so straight up, i have a controller and i want to use something to fe. make my arrow key do 80% throttle

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bind that somehow..?

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 2:25 AM

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So when you hold it you will accelerate to 80% of max speed?

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You're gonna need to out and say how you're wanting to cheat at what game

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Sorry mate lol

jovial tide Mar 21, 2021, 2:26 AM

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wdym cheat

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facepalm

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i basically partly want on my kb what i can do with a controller

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i just want to bind the right trigger to an arrow key ;-;

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impossible?

kindred temple Mar 21, 2021, 2:32 AM

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fervent granite yeah it's either pressed or it isn't, there's no in-between

@jovial tide

jovial tide Mar 21, 2021, 2:33 AM

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i. know.

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but can't i BIND a controlled input to that key?

kindred temple Mar 21, 2021, 2:37 AM

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Nope.

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Even that it MASSIVELY depends on the game.

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I know F1 series by codemasters have em but everyone knows its still horrible experience.

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 2:47 AM

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Ok so @brave field

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I think I like this

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I'm running into the issue with these tiny cases where they don't have front mounted usbs

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Front/top mounted

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QMp323/thermaltake-case-ca1d500s1wn00

Thermaltake Core V21 MicroATX Mini Tower Case

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 2:52 AM

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Its a mATX case, so you don't have to change the list at all, great

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 2:53 AM

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Oh shit I thought the mobo wouldn't fit. Fug

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What was the mobo you had before picked out

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B460m?

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Yes

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 2:54 AM

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B460M DS3H, might be out of stock now though. Its not showing in my parametric sel

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 2:55 AM

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Ok and do I need fans or that thing that needs thermal paste for the cpu

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Or can I do some of those things with tines that act as like heatsinks

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 2:57 AM

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10400F comes with a cooler with preinstalled paste

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That case comes with one front intake fan, you should see if it works well once its all assembled and then consider spending more on adding one

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 3:00 AM

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Now I can save a bit on an ssd because the one I have is 500 gigs. It's not BIG but if I'm offloading tanks to the hdd I can put music on the ssd freely

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Right?

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 3:01 AM

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Music on SSD is uhh

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Are these lossless or .flac music files?

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Large filesizes?

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 3:02 AM

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I aim for them to be. Right now they're just a lot of mp3s from youtube, but I'm planning on using this pc to mess with music making software

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~~im not a thief apple is~~

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I also need a powerplant for this

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 3:03 AM

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For a DAW, I'd only really put sample packs with large samples or VSTs on a faster drive, less so for the output. But that's just Cubase/FL/LMMS

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/q2K2FT/segotep-gp-600-w-80-gold-certified-atx-power-supply-600w-non-modular

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 3:04 AM

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Wow. I really am not into this at all

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I didn't understand a word of thag

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I really don't know shit PepeLaugh

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 3:04 AM

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DAW, Digital Audio Workstation

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Program you make music or sounds in

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FL Studio, Cubase, LMMS, Reaper, Adobe Audition

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 3:05 AM

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Ohhh ok

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I haven't gotten that far yet. I have audacity

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So you're suggesting I need the 1tb ssd

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 3:07 AM

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nah

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audio on an SSD just isn't that common, was curious

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plus, you can always get another SSD later on when you're getting better with the software, and install the software there too so its not sharing I/O with your OS

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 3:11 AM

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Why would storing music on a hdd be more common? It's noisy af

kindred temple Mar 21, 2021, 3:20 AM

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unreal iron Why would storing music on a hdd be more common? It's noisy af

"HDD cheap"

-Western Digital

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 3:22 AM

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hard drives really aren't that noisy, and the majority of non-audiophile and non-producers are listening to tiny, poor quality music files that barely make a drive spin up

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but uh, storing 10x the amount of music at a 4th of the price is the main one, yeah

kindred temple Mar 21, 2021, 3:22 AM

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I store 1141kbps FLAC on my HDD

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No difference

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 3:22 AM

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Ok

kindred temple Mar 21, 2021, 3:22 AM

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Your HDD trashing around? Crank the speaker more Kappa

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 3:23 AM

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Pffff

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hmDpnL

System Builder

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So this looks good then

kindred temple Mar 21, 2021, 3:23 AM

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But hey, atleast you cant make a way worse decision in music NAS

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Like buying premium ethernet cables.

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 3:24 AM

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Wait is that mobo have wifi

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My last gaming computer didn't have feking wifi

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 3:25 AM

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uh, where did the SSD go?

arctic yarrow Mar 21, 2021, 3:25 AM

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Just gotta keep reminding myself that there's literally nothing else I can do when scheduling a service call for monday for a customer who ripped out their fiber from their media converter for the 5th time and is screaming at me about not being able to work on monday morning.

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 3:25 AM

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.> You said I didn't need it

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 3:25 AM

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not for music, but you definitely still need it. Windows tries to behead itself otherwise

arctic yarrow Mar 21, 2021, 3:25 AM

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I'm tired of dealing with some idiots.

kindred temple Mar 21, 2021, 3:26 AM

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brave field not for music, but you definitely still need it. Windows tries to behead itself ...

Boot HDD best HDD

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I love making light snacks as i wait for windows to boot and games to load

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OkayChamp

arctic yarrow Mar 21, 2021, 3:27 AM

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Shitty life pro tip: if you have a disk drive, you can use it as a cupholder.

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 3:27 AM

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And then making and eating dinner while defender, compatibility telemetry, and SoftwareReporterTool murder the rest of your PC at boot

kindred temple Mar 21, 2021, 3:28 AM

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Yes

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OkayChamp

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 3:28 AM

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Sponge boy me bob u'r spendin all me money

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Ok so put the ssd back in it

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 3:28 AM

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yesyes, need SSD

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 3:29 AM

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I have a 500g one in the alienware tho

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What do I do with that

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 3:29 AM

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okay, steal SSD

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 3:29 AM

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Yes yes that was the plan

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Since dad's are esspense

arctic yarrow Mar 21, 2021, 3:29 AM

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That poor SSD, being abused in an alienware

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Find a new home for that poor drive.

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 3:29 AM

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Idk fam the hdd shat out

kindred temple Mar 21, 2021, 3:29 AM

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brave field okay, steal SSD

Average Indonesian PC enjoyer

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 3:29 AM

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That ssd has been my backbone for...

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5 years?

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At least?

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 3:30 AM

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No clue why but

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 3:30 AM

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3+

kindred temple Mar 21, 2021, 3:30 AM

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2016 SSD, okay

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 3:30 AM

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Why is it drives fail almost exclusively in Dell systems?

kindred temple Mar 21, 2021, 3:30 AM

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Thats the time where SSD is actually tolerable good

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 3:30 AM

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It was $200 or something

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WeirdChamper

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Killing me

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 3:31 AM

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Every "broken" PC I've bought off someone has been a Dell system with a dying drive

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 3:31 AM

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brave field Mar 21, 2021, 3:31 AM

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someone should conduct an investigation, because every time a server drive dies, its in a Dell server too

kindred temple Mar 21, 2021, 3:31 AM

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OCZ

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haHAA

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 3:31 AM

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Wat

kindred temple Mar 21, 2021, 3:32 AM

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I just miss that brand.

arctic yarrow Mar 21, 2021, 3:32 AM

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@brave field does that happen if you've changed the hard drive in said dells too?

kindred temple Mar 21, 2021, 3:32 AM

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Back in the time where RAM basically needs its own power rail.

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 3:33 AM

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Nope. Maybe they're selling used drives in their new systems?

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 3:33 AM

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kindred temple Mar 21, 2021, 3:33 AM

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Thats a massive liability

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 3:33 AM

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Mmmm

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Show off how much you scrimped

arctic yarrow Mar 21, 2021, 3:33 AM

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The only hard drives that have failed on me (other than the ones I've fucked around with) have always been toshiba.

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 3:33 AM

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I hate toshiba

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My laptop hdd failed THREE TIMES

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Fuck toshiba satellites

kindred temple Mar 21, 2021, 3:34 AM

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Well you got OCZ SSD which is basically toshiba SSD

arctic yarrow Mar 21, 2021, 3:34 AM

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unreal iron

Good god, how much did you spend on that hunk of junk?

kindred temple Mar 21, 2021, 3:34 AM

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OkayChamp

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 3:34 AM

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Toshiba drives are all HGST/Western Digital/Samsung/Hitachi still though, no?

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 3:34 AM

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hmmmmmmmmmmmm

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Fuck me

kindred temple Mar 21, 2021, 3:34 AM

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Isnt WD going for in house design since forever?

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 3:34 AM

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brave field Toshiba drives are all HGST/Western Digital/Samsung/Hitachi still though, no?

I didn't know this

kindred temple Mar 21, 2021, 3:34 AM

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I know HGST used to do toshiba rebrands.

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 3:35 AM

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I dunno what's the deal after 2016 but I believe someone bought someone

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and everyone is the same company now

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HGST bought by WD in 2012 and then the brand name killed in 2018, ah

kindred temple Mar 21, 2021, 3:36 AM

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WD bought HGST

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 3:36 AM

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arctic yarrow Good god, how much did you spend on that hunk of junk?

A number. In the form of screaming eagle paper and oil invading minted coins

kindred temple Mar 21, 2021, 3:36 AM

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Hitachi storage got merged or something

arctic yarrow Mar 21, 2021, 3:36 AM

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unreal iron A number. In the form of screaming eagle paper and oil invading minted coins

Understandable, have a nice day.

kindred temple Mar 21, 2021, 3:36 AM

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And now they focus on the actual electronics design

kindred temple Mar 21, 2021, 3:37 AM

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unreal iron A number. In the form of screaming eagle paper and oil invading minted coins

How does that convert to dead colonialism era heroes paper and shitty flower sketch coin?

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OkayChamp

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Heya

arctic yarrow Mar 21, 2021, 3:41 AM

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I see a very poor review from a customer for the company I work for telling everyone the internet sucks and to stay away, so I look up his account, log into his modem, and what do I find? Uptime at 684 days and counting.

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Hmm, I wonder why the internet sucks for him.

kindred temple Mar 21, 2021, 3:42 AM

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How is high uptime bad?

arctic yarrow Mar 21, 2021, 3:42 AM

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Would you use a computer that's been on for nearly 2 years without rebooting it?

kindred temple Mar 21, 2021, 3:42 AM

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Yes.

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 3:43 AM

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I'm honestly astounded it ran for 2 years but I've ever been turned off

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Like two years with no power outage

arctic yarrow Mar 21, 2021, 3:43 AM

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Just saying, you would have a pretty bad experience with it. Same principle with modems.

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 3:44 AM

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kindred temple How does that convert to dead colonialism era heroes paper and shitty flower ske...

Is that a northern currency or a southern one

kindred temple Mar 21, 2021, 3:44 AM

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South East Asian ones.

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 3:44 AM

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Oof

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Probably a lot more flower printers and dead colonial marksmen

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Exchange rate pretty bad unless you're in "were probably the reason you have an independance day"

arctic yarrow Mar 21, 2021, 3:45 AM

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unreal iron Like two years with no power outage

IKR, and not once in those two years has he called the tech support line, or even thought about rebooting his fucking modem.

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But sure, our internet sucks ass I guess....

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 3:46 AM

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Lol

kindred temple Mar 21, 2021, 3:46 AM

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unreal iron Exchange rate pretty bad unless you're in "were probably the reason you have an ...

Yeah, our independence day is caused by power vaccuum

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kek

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 3:47 AM

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ohohoho

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NergiSweat

arctic yarrow Mar 21, 2021, 3:47 AM

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What's even more astonishing is he's been getting fliers from the city saying a free fiber optic upgrade is available, and he hasn't taken advantage of it for some fucking reason.

unreal iron Mar 21, 2021, 3:47 AM

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"probably more fees! That's how they get you!"

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Sorry we're kind of off track

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Do I need that new SSD or no

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Since I have that ocz

arctic yarrow Mar 21, 2021, 3:48 AM

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Well, the thing is all the profit for the internet service literally goes to the general fund, and keeps property taxes and other utilities low.

kindred temple Mar 21, 2021, 3:49 AM

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arctic yarrow What's even more astonishing is he's been getting fliers from the city saying a ...

"FTTH is restrictive! I dont want to not be able to change routers!"

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Even though i would take a GPON modem and a separate router and WAP set than a stupid router+modem+switch combo

brave field Mar 21, 2021, 3:49 AM

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ocz is wack but you can always buy the other SSD later, I guess