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ah, 2010 cases
4.8k
19-10900k
128gb ram(?!)
2x 1tb m.2 ssd
2x 3tb hdd
3080
no
are you um, serious?
lol
or do you mean one country specifically
the older version of that case
in us any rtx 3000 card sells for 1k
Serious, just check "sold listings" on ebay
because if so i'm bustin this 2070s on ebay then getting a 3080
i mean that still looks kinda dope imo
2070S gets $1000 easily
i did that with an rx 580
mostly because no rainbow vomit
have been enjoying this 3080 so far
wait fr
yeah
why are they going for that much if 3080's cost the same/less?
3080s go for 2k+
people are too lazy to wake up at 7AM and buy a 3080 at MSRP in the 10 second window they have
we are literally living in a gpu crisis
LOL
and then they move to discord/reddit to blame scalpers and miners who are using free bots off github 
also thinks he has a 3080 ekwb and wants to trade it for a 3080ekwb
people are just lazy and cant put in the effort to get one
some people buy the high end stuff because it's "the best" then realize it's "too powerful" and sell/trade it
nice one
WHAT THE FUCK these were $700 last week these hikes happened overnight?
i see it often on r/hardwareswap
:)
i mostly leave it on red
hmmm
He's old 
been leaving it at stock lights for a few days now
don't mind
theres actually no 2070s for sale here AT ALL
I wanna sell the one in my computer but idk if i'll ever get one back an then no gamer
all cards are oos
yeah i mean second hand
Not in production + high demand, perfect
ehh
theres a couple 2070s's on dutch ebay(didnt know that was a thing) for 480-500
not worth selling
welp. im not upgrading my gpu for a while then
just gonna wait for the 11th gen cpu's and upgrade that then
Mined to death? Mining usually doesn't put much wear on any part of the GPU but its fans, was it overclocked instead of the normal core undervolt and power limit decrease?
probably not i dont think the previous owner knew what he was doing
it hit 80c constantly on even the lowest core clock
Thought on me setup? I built it last year. My first pc
I hate your power supply, no OTP is a fire hazard
everything else looks nice
specs?
What do y'all think about EVGA power supplies? I've been rocking them for 7 years now without an issue.
their "budget" power supplies are terrible imo
But G2/Q/3 are better, and their higher end ones like P2 are great
I mean, I only really go for 80+ gold or better.
I don't really look at the 80+ certs often, its possible to cheese them (EVGA has done this in the past) and an efficiency rating doesn't say anything about quality of the power supply
True
I also tend to way overestimate my PSU needs. for instance I'm rocking a 7700k with an rtx 2070s and have a 1kw psu
jeez
Those should work fine on a 550W
but you're covered in the super common situation in which you're gifted a GTX 480 to use along with your 2070S
I guess i'm still having flashbacks for when my apevia 750w psu burst into flames when I added another gtx 780 in my previous build.
apevia oh gosh
No joke, I plugged in my second 780, fired up a game, and I heard a massive pop and my carpet caught fire.
I don't think a single one of their PSUs don't have a fire or spark complaint in a review on amazon lol
rgb psu lo
Apevia models really are the worst.
I think its when your PC draws around 60% of their wattage rating that they have issues
terrible
S/M12ii and CX green are
though
besides those shitty lines all their psus are very good
also heard that superflower was good since they make a lot of psus for those companies
i have an rm1000x and it has served me well
i used to have random crashing but after flashing my bios i have had no issues whatsoever
thought it was the psu
people do be really hating greenbox CX
Flashing your BIOS?! We don't need to know what you do with your computer.... Flashing ugh.
There used to be a virus that would overwrite your computer's bios if its motherboard were vulnerable, so you were forced to 
i have an ryzen 7 16 gigs ram and am thinking of a decently priced gpu to go with it
i was originally orderring a 1070 but it never came
any recomendations?
my pc rn is pretty bad it has a ryzen 3 and a gt 1030 and whenever im playing a game it always lags at the worst times
i mainly use it for work and youtube though
y u pinging people?
bruh stop ghost pinging
it was (xbox) gumble1 who ghost pinged
what about a 1660
either ti or oc
what about a 2060 then
decently priced gpu
1660S/ti perform slightly better than a 1070 but availability is going to be terrible
If a 3060 at MSRP is in your budget, that's pretty much it
it sucks compared to the 3060 ti but unlike anything 16/20 series, its at least in production, so you have a chance of getting on at MSRP
you can find some 1660 on newegg
but hella overpriced atm
RIP GPU's
funny enough Intel is planning to put out their GPU's this year. Maybe those might be in stock because miner's won't know how those work for mining at all
i heard
They won't be in stock because there's a silicon shortage and production issues
mining isn't as profitable on anything like a 1650 or 1050ti but those have had worse stock issues than cards that mine much better for the price
Intel's new dGPUs are supposedly just a tad better than their Iris Pro graphics 
in a world when all we got is... Intel vid cards to look forward too....
1660Ti and Super is pretty much on par.
But basic 1660 is shit compared to 1650 Super, value wise.
Also, what do you mean by you never got it?
If youre getting it used on Ebay, you should get a return on it for fraudulent seller.
Dont just let it be.
Shouldnt my laptop's CPU up time restart after I shut off?
Probably just a shitty issue with windows
@frigid echo explain
*wish
it should. Being you are on a laptop you got to make sure it turns completely off after disabling fast boot. and making sure it powers down before closing the lid.
Well for wish i would file fraudulent transaction instead 
So how many shutdowns
1
Will it be fine if I switch it off then turn it back on then switch it off again
well the way fast boot/start works is that
ur system technically never gets shut off complete
at least that my understanding to it
ya just make sure it actually turns off. But you shouldn't have to shut it off again.
ya I told him how to disable fast boot
also if you have ssd i was told it doesn't help much
i have mine turned off and still boost up in the half minute mark
How do you disable it again
power plan i think?
that's not fast boot. Fast boot is built into windows.
Why is it built in, like why
you have to ask Microsoft and all their "Infinite Wisdom" They just now are working on fixing a problem with windows update they have had since windows 98
Its fast startup, not fast boot
How to delete
I showed you how last night
Yea I forgot
you can't delete it only disable
Power options -> choose what power buttons do
it's in your PM messages
You mean DMs
isn't fast boot the one you turn on/off in the BIO
yes
fast boot in UEFI/BIOS, fast startup in windows
Fast startup is the feature that's basically "Hibernate, but your apps get closed"
Isn't a 14 day up time unhealthy for a laptop?
fast boot just skips giving you the UEFI button prompts and such
ah yeah i thought so
Well its not actually 14 days straight of being powered on unless she actively keeps it on, its just 14 days worth of hours from fast startup being used
Not unhealthy but hibernate and fast startup share this issue where ram usage is a bit higher after each suspend/resume
wouldn't hurt to restart it though, which does an actual shutdown process instead of the fast startup one
Geez my laptop's fans are fucking loud
You got HWiNFO from earlier and checked the temperatures?
No
well
they have like 1 or 2 fans that's like 3 inches in diameter packed into a small case where almost everything generates heat
-__-
u can use something like throttlestop to undervolt it if ur running an intel cpu
not sure about how effective it is tho
Undervolt?
What dat
running the cpu at below the stock speed/voltage
use less power
so less electricity will be converted into heat
Ohh
So what do I do in HWinfo
As he says, temperature check.
I've never used HWinfo before
click run when you launch it
close the first window, click sensors
Temperature is a tad below
I'll do it later
Pc tweezers?
Those are zip ties.
Those are tweezers
Lttstoredotcom
ive downloaded mods and robberies and many things and i load up my game and now its all gone i still have the mods in my folder but not showing up ingame
What game?
@hasty sandal sure you got every modloader in here? https://forums.gta5-mods.com/topic/1451/tutorial-grand-theft-auto-v-modding-a-few-things-you-should-know
Also, check if the mod needs to be loaded thru openIV. Also next time, #gta-tech-support
Yea #gta-tech-support is probably the best place for GTA related stuff
do it fart
i mean its a laptop lol
you can always disable turbo boost on a laptop to reduce thermalks
undervolting also works
Ok I can't really talk right now because massive time thing
I wish it weren't necessary though, when I boot into windows it always uses my max clock setting even if it doesn't need it which causes my temps to skyrocket
nah i got it off amazon and it was brand new, just never came started shipping so i cancelled the order
also whats the msrp of a 3060
$330
yeah thats in my budget but idk where that is
and also is that a good card?
compared to 1660 TI or 1070
much better than both, its close to a 2060 Super in games
damn so why is it so much cheaper?
Its still being produced and comes into stock at MSRP
wait could you dm me a link to where the card is because i cant find it
oh so 1070s arent being produced no more?
and 1660s
16 series might still be but they're definitely suffering worse than all the RTX 30 series GPUs, they rarely are in stock at a decent price
damn thats crazy
what causes the market to be like that?
where a worse card is like twice the price?
is it just the people who buy all the cards and resell them for higher
The 3060 just came out and demand is high, people have been rushing to buy the 1070 and 1660S for months
yeah so by that sense shouldn't the 3060 become higher in price
because so many people want it
It is, on the secondhand market
Have no info on what country you're in or such, here's Best Buy: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/computer-cards-components/video-graphics-cards/abcat0507002.c?id=abcat0507002&qp=gpusv_facet%3DGraphics Processing Unit (GPU)~NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060
And here's Newegg: https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007709 601361654
awesome im in the US
You'll also need a subreddit, stock checking site, discord server, etc to be alerted when they come back in stock if you want a better chance at one
That, or you can try the EVGA queue or Newegg's lottery system
Itll take a while for you to get anything
keep that in mind
Took 4 months for this
Have a best buy account your address credit card and 2fa set up prior
damn
I would go with the founders card as well
No Founders 3060, which is wack
That also, yeah
is rreal good
and is the card i reccomend to most people
oh btw
$70 more isn't in everyone's budget but its a big step up
Dm it to me
And ill look at it
First thing i saw is that the mobo is a bit misspecced
I would reccomend a budget z490 and a 10600kf
o
And maybe a better cpu cooler
is the z490 wifi mobo
212 RGB is a no at that price
yh i plan to get a better cooelr
10600kf is under 200 on staples
damn
$200 for B4xx is a scam
750W is hugely overkill for this PC
o
@jovial tide is the one you said have wifi built in
I would get the corsair rm750
save a little bit but have the overhead for future upgrades
yea
You will have to check
Ill change the list
If you absolutely NEED wifi, you'll be better off with a mobo that makes sense in this build and then some Intel AX200-based adapter
ok ty
Should be cheaper as well overall, since that mobo is $200
ah
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M2dqy4 cheapest z490 i can find with wifi but everything else should be good
if you can use a lan cable you can get a cheaper board
With all the same features
U12S with a -k SKU?
Why not something like the Macho Rev. C? Larger heatsink, cheaper price
Actually at that point just buy an nhd15 lol or dark rock pro4
practically a bootleg DRP4 ya
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Ivke221/saved/nXsNcf this is my build, the gpu is there since october and im too lazy to change it but a 5700xt/2070s/3060 Ti would be very welcome
list is private
Fuck
Post the actual link lol
wtf im sending a damn link
Fucking phone
I'll send a screenshot when im back on pc
My take on the one above would be closer to this, did not touch the board: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k2PffP
Mostly small cost optimizations and a better cooler
10600KF at $200 is a wild price
$1150 with three parts missing prices
I put the dark rock pro4 and added some p14s for front intake
I need to look at the P300A Mesh again
thought that was one with decent enough stock fans
Not sure how many it has
@hasty void go overkill cpu cooling like the one i put so you can overclock your cpu and still get really good temps
And the pro4 and d15 look better than most aios imo
I just found out that you can fit a 3080 strix in my case
I have to unmount the front fans but its possible
Today we will be unboxing the White ROG Strix RTX 3080 graphics card and even going further to install the card and then play some games!
CPU: Intel Core I9-9900K 5.0 GHz Turbo Unlocked
US Link: https://amzn.to/3pRotYU
CA Link: https://amzn.to/3j9DmDB
GPU: ASUS ROG Strix RTX 3080 White OC Edition
https://rog.asus.com/ca-en/graphics-cards/graph...
Can you use a wired connection
You can save a bit
Also only buy 2 of the extra fans
You dont need a third one
i dont think so
yh
That cooler is really overkill but the pc will run extremely quiet and
This isnt required but if you want cablemod cables will make the pc look a lot nicer
the dark rock one?
Yeah
You can carry it over to future builds and it will still be more than enough lol
A good cooler is always a good investment
Air coolers last forever
And also if you plan to game while having stuff in background i would buy 32 gigs of ram
here's the screenshot of the list since link is actin up
as i said a 5700xt/2070s/3060 Ti would be very welcome
Jesus that gpu is so scalped
lol
it was 399 in october
go for a 3060 ti
Did you already build it
i'll take whatever is in stock
im only missing the gpu and psu
and the nvme drive but i'll get that during black friday, maybe 980 evo will go on sale instead
Get the 970 evo plus or sn750
alrighty
this poor 3600x is running off a 4 pin power instead of 8 
More longevity due to using 3 bit nand
lol
Wait why do you want a cpu upgrade
Keep the 3600x
i dont, i upgraded from a fx6300
Oh i misread i think
i'll maybe get a 5800x/5900x next year when prices sink a bit
Thought it said 5600x lol
For the ram get 3600 cl16
too late
oh lol
its already built besides gpu and psu
So get the rm750 for psu and 3060ti/3070 fe
3070 is way out of my reach especially rn with these prices lol
i'll go for seasonic cause i read that they make their stuff for other big game companies
In usa the rm750 is 10 dollars cheaper than a comparable seasonic
might be different in eu
seasonic is cheaper here
around 50 bucks cheaper
Oh wow
Ok go seaonic then
im really impressed with the 3600x tho
its not going over 60 degrees celsius on stock cooler
maybe sometimes when i play fc5 but thats rarely
id upgrade it tho
i just got it
i wouldn't upgrade it yet
like the cooler
not cpu
was thinking about aio but idk if it would fit
Is it the wraith stealth or prism rgb
wraith stealth
prism comes with 3700
yeah you need something better
dark rock pro4 is good
noctuas stuff is also great
i was offered a 3700x in the first place but i wanted to play humble and ordered a 3600 for 211 usd but a 3600x arrived instead
ye i heard great stuff about noctua
nhu12s would be good for it
You could also go completely overkill
and have super low temps
i'd go aio but idk which brand is reliable
i have to research more
Air coolers are better
Unless you go into custom loop
Nhd15 chromax or dark rock pro4
89 usd for dark rock pro
ngl
sounds like a deal tbh
i doubt it'd fit tho
Check case dimensions
it will fit the case but the ram
ah
its probably in the way
Get the u12s then
And strap a second fan to it
lmfao a second fan is 27 usd

yeah noctuas are stupid expensive
1 fan is fine anyway
at what point does upgrading your pc hardware become pointless?
Should i get this keyboard https://www.logitechg.com/en-us/products/gaming-keyboards/g513-backlit-mechanical-gaming-keyboard.html?
It heavily depends on your existing PC right now @fervent granite
For used optiplex, its when you need to replace the board.
Actually really for me
Its when i have to replace the board entirely
Its the refresh of G413 with a more standardized stemmed GX Switch
Auto buy for me.
i already have the G413
i just hate the fact that the G413 stays red or what ever color you buy it in
Weight your value in that then, would you buy the exact same thing just with better keycap compatibility and RGB?
i mean i changed the theme of my set up and it dosent match with a black and red keyboard so like yeah
Actually, at 149 or so
its kinda eh deal.
As i say, its pretty much G413 RGB
K70, A lot of Ducky/Magicforce kb, And drop ctrl is at that price point too.
Not me specifically, but shouldn't a 1080 ti be enough for everyone ? There's so much hype around the new 3080 cards but to me that just seems overkill for games
1080Ti is still massively good value
especially used
i would wait till 3000 series stabilize
and get a MASSIVELY depreciated 2080Ti

seems like nvidia is following in nintendo's footsteps in terms of production kek
Makes them more money and increases demand why wouldnt they
So, I have a question about ray-tracing and RTX, and before I ask I just want to clarify that I'm neither trolling nor being contrarian, I just genuinely don't understand this because my background is entirely outside of tech;
Is ray-tracing/RTX supposed to make games more realistic, or is it just to enable devs to make more highly customized reflections/shadows in games? Alternatively, is ray-tracing largely just a gimmick to sell more expensive hardware for minor graphical "improvements"?
Ray tracing basically simulates how light works irl, which makes game environments look extremely good.
Also, what (aside from advanced lighting/textures/shadows) is the benefit to getting a 3060/3090 right now? The 2060 I have in my laptop seems to run any game under the sun just fine on high graphics, and ray-tracing alone is nowhere near enough to convince me, as I personally find it less realistic and less attractive in games.
(sorry, was trying to finish up typing)
Right now... I wouldn't buy a 3000 series due to inflated pricing alone.
Also, If you haven't already, I recommend taking a look at the ray tracing options you have now for when you do eventually jump to a more powerful gpu. It really is up to preference, but I personally think the games look really fucking gorgeous with ray tracing turned on.
I don't recommend actually playing games with ray tracing enabled with your current gpu, but turn it on just to see how it looks for you, then turn it back off.
but why is ray tracing a hardware thing?
I've watched a lot of footage of ray-traced games, and just imo, it seems to take away from the graphical appearance. As for turning it on rn, I honestly have no idea how to.
Ray tracing is an option for specific games (e.g. BF5, COD:MW, Cyberpunk, etc.)
so you could use raytracing on any card or does it have to be them new cards?
Also, Youtube's compression is god awful for actually viewing graphical options.
ya youtube hates dark content in video games especially
You can use ray tracing on the 1000 series, but be prepared to experience sub 2 digit framerates.
Apparently Minecraft and Doom Eternal both have it, but I just haven't had the patience to figure out how to set it up
damn it's really that heavy? I figured game developers could just write it in software
(those are the only games I own that have it afaik)
Minecraft requires you to sign up for the beta.
Doom eternal... I think it's in the graphics options.
Minecraft is the biggest example of what it can do for a game
Ok, doom eternal doesn't actually have (official) ray tracing support.
I mean - again, just imo - part of the appeal of minecraft is that it looks so simple and cartoonish, and giving it realistic lighting is missing the forest for the trees
ah
True. Then again, it is fun to mess with it, make it look really good.
would be like giving animal crossing ray tracing 
I used a path tracing mod for minecraft prior to rtx coming out.
It looked... realistic in a blocky way?
I was using a 1070, and my fps tanked hard, down to 40 avg.
One other thing, which I'm having a hard time getting a direct answer to on forums. Does the PS4 Pro support ray-tracing? Won one in a drawing last year and almost never touched it (because controllers do not mesh with my brain), but if it does I might give it a shot with something free/cheap like Warzone
yeah, but I'm not getting within a mile of that, even if I could afford/find one
the last console I used was the Gamecube, and for very good reason.
also lucky to have won a ps4 pro. Wish i could pay ya for your lack of use of it
I really am trying to get my brain to work with it, but it's so much goddam effort. I haven't used a controller for games since I was in elementary school, so it's a huge learning curve for muscle memory
and I think I'll like it once I do, but holy shit it's a struggle
ya hear ya on that. The gamecube controller is such a good feel in the hands and design
it's hilarious that controller and design has lasted till even the switch for Smash especially xD
honestly, they found the winning formula, just a shame they put it on the back burner for the Wii for so long
anyway tho, back to work, but thanks for answering my questions
and yet the n64 controller gets no love 
I still yet to mutate that third arm and hand for that part of the controller
Because only 4heads thinks its comfortable
RT acceleration on consumer hardware is a huge deal
I wasted so much time rendering in 2017 and 2018
36+ hours of GPU load for <2min of video sucks
Only took 25 years for it to come to us commonfolk
Does anyone know what video format mobile devices produce?
Still your usual H264 unless you use HEVC, that means its H265. Both MP4.
But for apple, iirc they use their own codecs
Wait nvm
Also H265.
Hey @brave field, what would happen if I move the recycle bin into a recycle bin shortcut
I feel like my PC is gonna explode
Nothing, because it would reject. If you want the recycle bin to be gone, use the desktop icon settings
Yea ik, I was just joking
I mean, i prefer my desktop to be filled with quick access to documents
or just nothing.
i use start menu for my actual quick access, or toolbar.
should I get windows for free or buy it ๐
All on your risk management factor. Are you willing to have to find new cracks everytime one you have doesnt work, or do you prefer something that will work out of the box?
I generally prefer the latter, grey market keys wont get you support but for 20-40$ its basically a lunch missed.
I code too
I downloaded VoiceMeeter banana (Audio Software), and I need to keep it running without it being in my taskbar 24/7, what should I do?
...Thats pretty much how you will live with it.
I personally dont use voicemeeter.
I just accept the fact that i cant listen to music

I'm pretty sure there is a way to keep it running
Without seeing it in taskbar
I don't really mind it
Discord must place the (edited) near the time that the message is sent. Neat!
I don't like it, to be honest, I prefer to delete and resend, all because of that...
For example: Today at 7:00 AM (edited)
@brave field can i ask ya opinion for a bit?
How possible it is for apple to switch to an in house DRAM chips for both storage and RAM?
And how possible it is for them to start making their own monitor panel?
@kindred temple I don't think the first is likely at all
but the monitor panels... maybe?
It really depends on if they can get third party support. Their products sell well on their own but they don't have their own fabs, and producing DRAM themselves is probably going to be pretty expensive
I don't really understand much about standards either, but wouldn't they need to follow some sort of JEDEC something or other as well?
But yeah i think theyll just keep those to the outside people who actually know what theyre doing
Or buy out them, typical apple
:KappaFace:
Pretty sure the EU will blast them if they try any funny business on Micron or Hynix
Indeed.
Also, I don't think they could afford to buy them really
Apple has a LOT of money but all of it comes from the US, UK, and Canada. Their products sell poorly everywhere else, where Micron, Hynix, and Samsung's ram is in EVERYTHING
But panel though
Not gonna lie, theyve nailed the controller part MANY times by now.
Retina, imac 5k, prodisplay XDR
All they need is that extra 50%.
hm
I think they'd be successful making their own panels
but they probably have some deal with Samsung that saves them a lot of money already
Do all windows computers have WinSxS?
i think it's pretty important folder iirc
its importance is equivalent to like
system32 folder?
not sure tho
and i think every windows os computer should have that folder
Ok ok, hmm
Would be awesome to see Apple making its own displays again, havenโt seen those since the old cinema/thunderbolt displays
You will need to explain this in a very basic way because I'm the noobest person on earth 
@brave field
@rapid lake read up on voicemeeter's documentation, or try adding "command line arguments" to your searches
there's often an extra few things you can throw into command prompt/powershell/.bat file when you open the app
tanks

anyone here have a performance lift on gtao when overclocking above 5.0 all core
Letโs see... I should really up my ram to 16GB
want to try it this weekend
16 gb is bare minimum in 2021
But I donโt have any need for it, because Iโm never using more than 3-4GB of ram at a time
32 is the sweet spot/a bit overkill
couple weeks ago i saw a 3200 cl16 32 gb kit of ram for 90 bucks on walmart
Iโm running a Ryzen 5 3600X with a Radeon RX 5500 XT card. Everything runs smoothly with my SSD and 8GB ram ๐คทโโ๏ธ
how many sticks does it have
if it has 1 you are losing a ton of performance and i would buy another 8 gb stick
I donโt remember tbh, I put this together over a year ago lol
Iโm fairly certain I got 2 4GB sticks
and preferably at 3200-3600 cl16
ok good
you can get a 16 gig kit and slot the other 2 sticks in the other slots
if you ever need more
ive gotten up to 20 gb usage in a google meet with chrome while playing gtao
Oh, I just checked cmd
Yeah itโs 1 8GB stick
Actually hmm
Nope just checked inside, two sticks that are 4GB each
you know what speed its clocked at
2666 is the current speed I have it at
Cas latency/timing is 15-15-15-35 iirc
For the ddr4 ram, 2666 is standard without OC, and I havenโt had any issues since I built this rig the end of 2019
If I wanted to upgrade to 2 8GB sticks, that would be $80 apparently. Keeping it the same brand and all.
It seems like theyโve been the best 16Gb kit for a while, according to Neweggโs reviews
Same cas latency and timing, so I see no issues with having this be my upgrade
24GB total?
I mean, I โcouldโ just add them to the other 2 slots, I guess. Wouldnโt I have to move the slots around? Slot 1 and 3 being 8GB, slot 2 and 4 being 4GB?
2/4 being the 8gb sticks might be preferred but I don't think its a huge deal
Ah
same latency and timing though, definitely don't just abandon your old ram
Gotcha
even if there was a bad mismatch and you had to run 2133, capacity>speed a good 95% of the time
For every instance of "too slow ram," there's 50 of "not enough ram." Not to say 16gb isn't enough, but 24 doesn't really have a downside if you run the same mhz, cl, and timings
I don't think I've ever run into a situation where I didn't have enough ram tbh
but then again our lord and saviour bill gates did say that 640 kb of ram ought to be enough for everyone
Can someone do something about terrible web ads?
I tried visiting basic sites without ublock origin ONCE and its impossible to do anything
autoplaying videos, ads rendering at high resolutions that just spike GPU usage, ads with AV1 encoding at 8k that spike CPU usage, ads that move across the screen, ads that mess with clicking, or the cursor, ads with earrape volumes, fullscreen ads, ads that scroll with the breaks in the middle of articles, ads that follow the mouse cursor when hovering over links
seriously fuck those scroll ads
Even if you were someone interested in the ads, you wouldn't be able to click them because they either crash each other first or they crash the web browser tab
the scrolling ads reserve a box three times the height of the article but then you're just scrolling through a white or black background for 2-3 seconds yeah
clicking any sort of ads on mobile is a death sentence
after you get redirected about 100 times you could either land on a fake giveaway, a fake virus popup or the app store

Congratulations [android version unknown; iphone 4 or older] user !!!
What gives me a good laugh is you can edit the url to say whatever you want in most cases 
I have negative 10 seconds to download mobile antivirus full free 2021 before my files are deleted
bUT yOUr phONe iS InfECteD wItH (9) VirUSes
The other things I'd really love to never see again in web design
virtual assistant popups
"This site uses tracking cookies, but we leave out the tracking part when we describe them"
"If you're in the EU or California, we hate you. Give us data"
and any fullscreen coupon popups
virtual assistant ones in particular annoy me the most
don't forget the newsletter popups
becasue we all love to sign up to get our emails sold
tasty
Coding
Chrome eats up my ram
32 gigs is the sweet spot and will last me and most people a long time
still waiting for a browser with Chromium's speed and Firefox's privacy, ram use, and NOT having SoftwareReporterTool
As long as google holds the keys to chromium I donโt think itโll ever happen
Chrome steals your data but is the most convenient for me so i use it
Quite honestly Iโve never had a reason to use chrome
very few people will need 32gb at this point in time
I considered that, but then again any browser can do that
I kinda wanna get more ram just to have it but I know I don't need it
Everyone needs 32 ๐
maybe in 5 years
I do a lot of gaming while running classroom in background
Of course Iโve also used g suite (apps for education) but i donโt see how chrome makes it any better imo
Hit 20gb of ram usage a lot
yeah
^while rendering an 8k 144fps video and bitcoin mining /s
I would have a headache with too many tabs idk how some people do that
At most I would have like 7-12 and have them split in two between monitors to ease that clusterfuck
An old friend of mine always had 4-5 chrome windows open each with like 20+ tabs
when I write stuff
Oh I lied I had a shit ton of tabs open once when I was getting on of my sneakers
20 different chrome windows not tabs
Like 5-10 of them are the best buy site whenever theres a drop
for the new consoles?
Nah pc
i had a series x and ps5 past checkout before
Decided not to
Buying 2 3070/3060tis for family
And selling their 2060 supers
The prices for them spiked super recently idk who would pay $1100 for a $500 card
more than double retail
Do you have a setup for it or do you do all of it manually
Manually
respectful
You cant use bots on best buy
nice
At least ones that completely auto checkout
I think they only cart it for you and select the store
If I got a 3070 I would install that in my computer and sell my 2070s while they are ridiculously overpriced
used ones are going for $600-$800
Thats a good idea
Exactly what im doing with the 2060 supers
Sell high
I built my pc in August, literally a month before all this overpriced reckoning so i'm thankful to have parts in the flesh xD
back when 2070s's were $500
I built mine in October and got the gpu a month ago
because they were still on shelves
yeah
It's crazy I wonder when things will go back to retail prices again, i'm used to this with like Yeezys but mass market semiconductors? Kinda crazy how much they are going over retail value
Probably in 2022
dam
3070's will be available when they make the 4000 series
And buy the new stuff
Also 3070 isn't that hard to get
From my experience 3060ti and 3080 are the hardest to buy
oh wait the new cards need a special thing or do they work with my motherboard, I think I just have the b450
no youre fine
cool
so the new ones don't need 4.0?
no
idk much about the specifics, so that's good to hear
barely makes a difference in most games
Only game ive seen it make a difference is at csgo
But you are already running at 500-600 fps so it doesnt really count
yeah
csgo needs a fast cpu more than anything
waiting for ml120s to go on sale to put as bottom intake lol
and the beautiful cable management too
The last pc I worked on was an old e-machines tower
@jovial tide I looked into it a bit more and I think i'm going to do this, is the 3070 performance a big difference from a 2070s?
I would go for the 3080 fe imo
What cpu do you have and psu
I have a 750w 80+ gold and for cpu it is a 3700x
I don't have enough for the 3080 at the moment
the 3060ti is better?
hm
@jovial tide When you got yours was it shipped or did you pick it up at a store
Since pickup is an option I'm doing that because the incompetent delivery people would probably drop it off at the house behind ours
Pickup is best
indeed
cool


dogesimiplification

I'm starting to understand why I hate my Java class and enjoy Python so much
I hate learning how to program on pencil and paper
I hate acting as if I wouldn't have an IDE installed
and I don't like learning fundamentals of things but not being challenged to actually put those fundamentals to use
is it because java is the fucking worst
i'm dreading next semester where i take program design again and re-learn java for the second time, except that this time around i completely forgot all programming that i learned in the past ๐
well that is also part of it
it is very annoying to write
and I don't like reading it
Enjooy
no 
Going back to java is like going back to your abusive ex
fixing to do that ngl
just until I know enough to actually make a program on my own
need hotkeys for print statement
why is it so long
and why must I rely on an IDE to make a main function
what is this called, boilerplate?
stuff you just have to have but nobody explains to beginners
public static void main(String[] args) throws Exception {}
I think the print statement shortcut is ctrl+space?
I use VSCode for Java, they're snippets there and I need to look up how to make one
You use IntelliJ? Android Studio?
The masochist one, Eclipse?
Sublime Text? Atom?
the one and only 
Tried it day one
I realized I'd be better off using Microsoft Paint as an IDE
man that thing is clunky
certainly feels that way after not having used it for 2 years
I barely remembered how to actually make a new project/class
It combines the worst parts of everything
Its slow to load like Jetbrains IDEs, and low on features like a barebones text editor
and its boring and makes you do more work than you actually need, just like the language itself
apparently that's what makes it a good learning language, at least that's what someone told me
probably true
I hate doing extra, makes me lose motivation
that is why I am fan of Python and batch :catyes_no_nitro:
Minecraft Java Python Edition
I almost considered spending time on Java to mess around with Baritone bots
but then I saw it: Jython
that's a thing?
Its locked to Python 2.x so not really anymore
but it does look interesting, and I did consider
seems like a "jack of all trade master of none" type thing
"Just put everything you want to run inside this. You'll learn what it is later"
public class uh extends oh implements actionkeylistener
is RTX 3090 gonna be the top of Ampere or are we going to see a titan RTX 2 or something like that?

i recently flashed lineageos on my redmi note 7, but i didnt download gapps or microg at the start, is there any way i can do that now?

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"Same hashrate limiting as the 3060"
So you can't mine ethash coins, a 20 cent reduction in profitability
Another PR stunt
@brave field sorry for the ping, do you think the 3060 is worth the 70 dollars less than the 3060ti?
I don't, no
That $70 gets you from a 2060S equivalent to a 2080s equivalent
@empty coral I think the base 3060 is the third worst value RTX 30 series GPU after the 3090 and 3070
oh alr thanks
Do you guys have any PC recommendations?
budget, usecase, country?

In all seriousness, what's your budget and what you'll use it for?
Ok, I'll take a quick look at pcpp. w1
Doesnt rust basically require using an ssd
Only for loading to the main menu
and loading into the first server you join per game start
No issues or stutter ingame on a 7200RPM though
I have the game but haven't played it yet
give it a try, its fun but difficult solo
Might play with a friend today
I mostly play gta csgo and minecraft so itll be a nice change
tryna build a giant city in minecraft for rtx
I hope no one is stupid enough to buy a GPU rn
You'd be surprised
Scalped
ah
i bought mine for msro
msrp
people that buy scalped things encourage scalpers
Here they are either out of stock, or being sold by 3rd parties for
thats a 2060, same for every other GPU
Or rich
How dangerous do you guys think this is? The two wires and plug prongs are isolated by a shitton of electrical tape.
as long as it doesn't get hot
I should probably test that huh?
plug in a usb device I don't care about and let it run for 10 min?
be 100% sure everything is isolated from both the outside and each other, a multimeter could be helpful
and I guess so, yeah
10 minute
Ya, I made 100% sure, hence the shitton of electrical tape
@serene topaz
nice
can an i3 8100 and rx 570 run gta at an enjoyable framerate on good settings?
Well
If u take 30fps in online as โenjoyableโ then maybe
Story mode should get around 60 on all low
@molten vessel easily
As long as you're not actively trying to run max settings, you should get >60fps in story pretty much everywhere and 40-60 sounds right for online mode, might be worse in heavily-populated sessions in the middle of LS
(unless cayo update has messed with things? This game really shouldn't be THAT difficult to run with the decent singlethread you can expect from an 8100)
Act 2 solo have no RNG 
anyone know why that when ever I am in Cayo Perico my FPS drops dramatically, I dont think its my specs because in LS its 80+ but in cayo perico its around 30FPS?
Massive vegetation count in cayo perico pretty much tank the performance regardless.
Turn down every details (except texture details on high) would be pretty much what should ya do. Also next time, #gta-tech-support
What vegetation? All I see is concrete that looks like trees/bushes
pc offers a lot of customization because u can always get better parts
thats a good pro
consoles u can get any better
PC has more backwards compatible and Steam offers games from current gen all the way back to the DOS era like MW3 and Leisure Suit Larry
cant
PS4 is stuck with remasters of a game
I'm still happy with my xbox one though
yea ik that
I'm glad that I have my Laptop to play Gta v on the go
I can think of a few
https://youtu.be/jl4wWgKcxMM
This bad boy is out guys.
In This video we test out 10 PC games on the AYA NEO, A Ryzen 4500U Handheld gaming PC with built in controls! With 6 cores clocked up to 4.0Ghz and backed by 16GB of ram plus built in Radeon 6 Graphics clocked at 1500Mhz this handheld has some power!
We test out Halo 3, Overwatch, Dauntless, Genshin Impact, Rocket League, WarFrame, World Of War...
Portable PC
Like a gameboy advanced
modders being a big one of them
windows
Bad PC ports can be easily fixed
im talking about modding in general
and gta online
online games
not nearly as much on console
almost impossible tbh
We have emulators to play PS2 and Original Xbox games
console does have some booting problems tho
there are plenty of game that aren't
thats also preference
GTA V on keyboard is way too hard for me, so I connect my gamepad to play.
*assuming your pc can run them
i mean ig siege
I prefer playing on actual hardware whenever possible, especially with emulators like rpcs3 or yuzu
ur at a disadvantage using controller
We have Xenia also to play 360 games
ok but no day 1 console player is going switch to pc money wise
so many stuff lost in the progress
yeah try using yuzu on a regular pc and tell me how it goes 
including ur progress
GPD Win and Aya Neo have the power to play PC on the go like the Switch
have to buy all ur games again
The switch emulator?
Nintendo Switch emulator
way too expensive imo
Aya Neo and Gpd win also a portable gaming
u can play on console from ur phone
the console itself it nice but if only games wren't $60 a pop and having to pay for that horrid switch online
Look up GPD Win 3
just connect a controller to ur phone via bluetooth
The GPD Win 1 is crap at the start
Maybe there's a way to play Steam games on Switch
with a modded system probably, I've seen people run ubuntu on it and I think andorid too
Go to https://expressvpn.com/WULFFDEN and find out how you can get 3 months free.
Putting Android on your Nintendo Switch unlocks a whole world of new games otherwise stuck outside of Nintendo's walled garden. Using tools like Retro Arch and Steam Link, it COULD be a great experience. There's just a lot of hick-ups that prevent it from being tha...
I'm happy with my consoles and my Macbook 
I wish Switch mod devs will implement windows 10 for Switch
eww don't even try putting windows on the switch
why would you ever want windows on the switch
it wouldn't even run as it's an arm-based system
Good thing I ran Mac OS on a non-Mac PC
there's arm-based windows but that thing's pretty much useless
I have Mac, Ubuntu, and Windows all in one on my PC
I've got all these guys :D
My next goal is to put DOS on my PC also.
Vista is the newest edition but I don't actually need it for anything 
these are the worst takes all year
no on-the-fly OS upgrade
Massive amount of telemetry
0 HAL for ARM, needs full port
I have a bootable FreeDOS usb to play DOS games natively
And this is coming from a windows main
don't forget telemetry
AND all the useless bloatware/ads it puts on you
Man praises Windows and bashes Linux
Microsoft continues to put more and more of Linux into Windows
Man also hates mac os because... no real reason?
Mac on the otherhand, looks cool for a hipster who is using it for video editing and DJ software
M1 macbook air will be my next daily driver.
You can put windows on a Mac
And I have
Using Bootcamp
Was going to get myself HP spectre, but now im going to run for that ARM shit

Not even ironically
Have you tried using Hackintosh?
Laptops don't exist anymore
it's not like I need it but it's there because I put my colleges malware lockdown growser on it
I will get it, i will get thru the hell that is the gesture
The last laptop was the Thinkpad T440p and nobody can convince me otherwise
Ok r/pcmasterrace
Hackintosh is the money saving method to run Mac on your gaming PC.
And remember this is coming from a windows user
Yeah because game is literally the only shit people do.
citation needed
also jokes on you because the rockstar launcher isn't even available for mac 
Mac pro can run mafia 3 on medium wdym lmao
And that game is MASSIVELY unoptimized on windows.

The Steam version requires the rockstar launcher now
RGL bad, mac bad, linux bad...
Imma complete the quadrivecta.
Intel 12th gen is new dawn of intel.
then he must not have a phone as they're all unix based
New PCs can handle next gen games
not r/pcmasterrace until they blame world hunger and tiktok on cryptocurrency mining
What defines a "gen?" What is next-gen, or last-gen?
Uh yeah aka the equivalent of the microsoft store for windows
not every "program" of yours require a huge load of gpu usage you know
And not like you cant sideload on mac either
Daily reminder you only need 1650 to edit 4k 
God bless CUDA and OpenCL.

Everyone is a degenerate to someone







