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fallow forge
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looks like a fucking vacuum cleaner

brave field
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ah, 2010 cases

fallow forge
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4.8k
19-10900k
128gb ram(?!)
2x 1tb m.2 ssd
2x 3tb hdd
3080

jovial tide
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no

light sinew
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are you um, serious?

jovial tide
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lol

light sinew
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or do you mean one country specifically

nova steppe
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the older version of that case

jovial tide
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in us any rtx 3000 card sells for 1k

brave field
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Serious, just check "sold listings" on ebay

light sinew
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because if so i'm bustin this 2070s on ebay then getting a 3080

fallow forge
brave field
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2070S gets $1000 easily

jovial tide
fallow forge
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mostly because no rainbow vomit

jovial tide
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have been enjoying this 3080 so far

light sinew
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wait fr

jovial tide
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yeah

light sinew
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they resell for this much

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even the amd stuff dam

brave field
jovial tide
brave field
light sinew
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why are they going for that much if 3080's cost the same/less?

jovial tide
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3080s go for 2k+

fallow forge
brave field
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people are too lazy to wake up at 7AM and buy a 3080 at MSRP in the 10 second window they have

jovial tide
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we are literally living in a gpu crisis

fallow forge
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dude has a 3070 ekwb

jovial tide
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LOL

brave field
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and then they move to discord/reddit to blame scalpers and miners who are using free bots off github LUL

fallow forge
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thinks someone will trade it for a 3080ekwb

jovial tide
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i was dedicated

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and got mine

fallow forge
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also thinks he has a 3080 ekwb and wants to trade it for a 3080ekwb

jovial tide
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people are just lazy and cant put in the effort to get one

fallow forge
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ha

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this guy is trying

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" Looking for 3080 without scalpers tax"

nova steppe
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some people buy the high end stuff because it's "the best" then realize it's "too powerful" and sell/trade it

fallow forge
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nice one

light sinew
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WHAT THE FUCK these were $700 last week these hikes happened overnight?

nova steppe
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i see it often on r/hardwareswap

jovial tide
fallow forge
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eww

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rgb

jovial tide
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i mostly leave it on red

fallow forge
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hmmm

light sinew
jovial tide
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been leaving it at stock lights for a few days now

light sinew
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don't mind

fallow forge
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theres actually no 2070s for sale here AT ALL

light sinew
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I wanna sell the one in my computer but idk if i'll ever get one back an then no gamer

jovial tide
fallow forge
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yeah i mean second hand

brave field
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Checking the used market?

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o

fallow forge
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using "marktplaats"

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Basically dutch ebay

brave field
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Not in production + high demand, perfect

fallow forge
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ehh

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theres a couple 2070s's on dutch ebay(didnt know that was a thing) for 480-500

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not worth selling

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welp. im not upgrading my gpu for a while then

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just gonna wait for the 11th gen cpu's and upgrade that then

jovial tide
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Sold a mined to death gpu for almost 200

brave field
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Mined to death? Mining usually doesn't put much wear on any part of the GPU but its fans, was it overclocked instead of the normal core undervolt and power limit decrease?

jovial tide
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probably not i dont think the previous owner knew what he was doing

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it hit 80c constantly on even the lowest core clock

jovial tide
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Thought on me setup? I built it last year. My first pc

brave field
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I hate your power supply, no OTP is a fire hazard

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everything else looks nice

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specs?

arctic yarrow
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What do y'all think about EVGA power supplies? I've been rocking them for 7 years now without an issue.

brave field
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their "budget" power supplies are terrible imo

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But G2/Q/3 are better, and their higher end ones like P2 are great

arctic yarrow
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I mean, I only really go for 80+ gold or better.

brave field
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I don't really look at the 80+ certs often, its possible to cheese them (EVGA has done this in the past) and an efficiency rating doesn't say anything about quality of the power supply

arctic yarrow
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True

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I also tend to way overestimate my PSU needs. for instance I'm rocking a 7700k with an rtx 2070s and have a 1kw psu

brave field
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jeez

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Those should work fine on a 550W

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but you're covered in the super common situation in which you're gifted a GTX 480 to use along with your 2070S

arctic yarrow
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I guess i'm still having flashbacks for when my apevia 750w psu burst into flames when I added another gtx 780 in my previous build.

brave field
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apevia oh gosh

arctic yarrow
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No joke, I plugged in my second 780, fired up a game, and I heard a massive pop and my carpet caught fire.

brave field
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I don't think a single one of their PSUs don't have a fire or spark complaint in a review on amazon lol

jovial tide
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rgb psu lo

brave field
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Apevia models really are the worst.

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I think its when your PC draws around 60% of their wattage rating that they have issues

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terrible

vapid grove
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seasonic and corsair blobJustRight

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Never steered me wrong.

brave field
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S/M12ii and CX green are Sadge though

jovial tide
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also heard that superflower was good since they make a lot of psus for those companies

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i have an rm1000x and it has served me well

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i used to have random crashing but after flashing my bios i have had no issues whatsoever

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thought it was the psu

kindred temple
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people do be really hating greenbox CX

frigid echo
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Flashing your BIOS?! We don't need to know what you do with your computer.... Flashing ugh.

fervent granite
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There used to be a virus that would overwrite your computer's bios if its motherboard were vulnerable, so you were forced to KEKW

merry jacinth
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i have an ryzen 7 16 gigs ram and am thinking of a decently priced gpu to go with it

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i was originally orderring a 1070 but it never came

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any recomendations?

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my pc rn is pretty bad it has a ryzen 3 and a gt 1030 and whenever im playing a game it always lags at the worst times

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i mainly use it for work and youtube though

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y u pinging people?

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bruh stop ghost pinging

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it was (xbox) gumble1 who ghost pinged

light totem
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what about a 1660
either ti or ocpeepoThink

merry jacinth
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is that better than a 1070?

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bc when i researched it said it wasnt

light totem
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what about a 2060 then

vapid grove
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decently priced gpu
KEKW

light totem
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right...

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jesus crist there's like no gpu available rn

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wait nvm

brave field
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1660S/ti perform slightly better than a 1070 but availability is going to be terrible

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If a 3060 at MSRP is in your budget, that's pretty much it

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it sucks compared to the 3060 ti but unlike anything 16/20 series, its at least in production, so you have a chance of getting on at MSRP

light totem
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you can find some 1660 on newegg
but hella overpriced atm

frigid echo
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RIP GPU's

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funny enough Intel is planning to put out their GPU's this year. Maybe those might be in stock because miner's won't know how those work for mining at all

light totem
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i heard

brave field
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They won't be in stock because there's a silicon shortage and production issues

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mining isn't as profitable on anything like a 1650 or 1050ti but those have had worse stock issues than cards that mine much better for the price

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Intel's new dGPUs are supposedly just a tad better than their Iris Pro graphics Sadge

frigid echo
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in a world when all we got is... Intel vid cards to look forward too....

kindred temple
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But basic 1660 is shit compared to 1650 Super, value wise.

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Also, what do you mean by you never got it?

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If youre getting it used on Ebay, you should get a return on it for fraudulent seller.

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Dont just let it be.

jovial tide
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Shouldnt my laptop's CPU up time restart after I shut off?

terse eagle
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Probably just a shitty issue with windows

jovial tide
frigid echo
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it should. Being you are on a laptop you got to make sure it turns completely off after disabling fast boot. and making sure it powers down before closing the lid.

kindred temple
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Well for wish i would file fraudulent transaction instead KappaFace

frigid echo
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1

jovial tide
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Will it be fine if I switch it off then turn it back on then switch it off again

light totem
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well the way fast boot/start works is that
ur system technically never gets shut off complete
at least that my understanding to it

frigid echo
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ya just make sure it actually turns off. But you shouldn't have to shut it off again.

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ya I told him how to disable fast boot

light totem
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also if you have ssd i was told it doesn't help muchpeepoThink
i have mine turned off and still boost up in the half minute mark

jovial tide
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How do you disable it again

light totem
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power plan i think?

frigid echo
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that's not fast boot. Fast boot is built into windows.

jovial tide
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Why is it built in, like why

frigid echo
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you have to ask Microsoft and all their "Infinite Wisdom" They just now are working on fixing a problem with windows update they have had since windows 98

jovial tide
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Im fucking speechless

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Since windows 98?

brave field
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Its fast startup, not fast boot

jovial tide
frigid echo
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I showed you how last night

jovial tide
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Yea I forgot

frigid echo
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you can't delete it only disable

brave field
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Power options -> choose what power buttons do

frigid echo
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it's in your PM messages

jovial tide
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You mean DMs

light totem
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isn't fast boot the one you turn on/off in the BIO

brave field
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yes

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fast boot in UEFI/BIOS, fast startup in windows

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Fast startup is the feature that's basically "Hibernate, but your apps get closed"

jovial tide
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Isn't a 14 day up time unhealthy for a laptop?

brave field
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fast boot just skips giving you the UEFI button prompts and such

light totem
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ah yeah i thought so

brave field
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Well its not actually 14 days straight of being powered on unless she actively keeps it on, its just 14 days worth of hours from fast startup being used

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Not unhealthy but hibernate and fast startup share this issue where ram usage is a bit higher after each suspend/resume

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wouldn't hurt to restart it though, which does an actual shutdown process instead of the fast startup one

jovial tide
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Geez my laptop's fans are fucking loud

brave field
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You got HWiNFO from earlier and checked the temperatures?

jovial tide
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No

light totem
jovial tide
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-__-

light totem
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u can use something like throttlestop to undervolt it if ur running an intel cpu
not sure about how effective it is thopeepoThink

jovial tide
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Undervolt?
What dat

light totem
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running the cpu at below the stock speed/voltage
use less power
so less electricity will be converted into heat

jovial tide
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Ohh

jovial tide
kindred temple
jovial tide
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I've never used HWinfo before

kindred temple
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click run when you launch it

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close the first window, click sensors

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Temperature is a tad below

jovial tide
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I'll do it later

kindred temple
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@brave field Oh btw, where do i get PC tweezers?

jovial tide
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Pc tweezers?

kindred temple
cinder iron
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Those are zip ties.

vapid grove
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Those are tweezers

cold elbow
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Lttstoredotcom

hasty sandal
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ive downloaded mods and robberies and many things and i load up my game and now its all gone i still have the mods in my folder but not showing up ingame

hasty sandal
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i downloaded to gta

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and now there is nothing on the map only the basick stuff

kindred temple
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Also, check if the mod needs to be loaded thru openIV. Also next time, #gta-tech-support

jovial tide
jovial tide
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do it fart

jovial tide
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you can always disable turbo boost on a laptop to reduce thermalks

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undervolting also works

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Ok I can't really talk right now because massive time thing

fervent granite
merry jacinth
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also whats the msrp of a 3060

brave field
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$330

merry jacinth
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yeah thats in my budget but idk where that is

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and also is that a good card?

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compared to 1660 TI or 1070

brave field
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much better than both, its close to a 2060 Super in games

merry jacinth
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damn so why is it so much cheaper?

brave field
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Its still being produced and comes into stock at MSRP

merry jacinth
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wait could you dm me a link to where the card is because i cant find it

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oh so 1070s arent being produced no more?

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and 1660s

brave field
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16 series might still be but they're definitely suffering worse than all the RTX 30 series GPUs, they rarely are in stock at a decent price

merry jacinth
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damn thats crazy

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what causes the market to be like that?

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where a worse card is like twice the price?

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is it just the people who buy all the cards and resell them for higher

brave field
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The 3060 just came out and demand is high, people have been rushing to buy the 1070 and 1660S for months

merry jacinth
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yeah so by that sense shouldn't the 3060 become higher in price

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because so many people want it

brave field
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It is, on the secondhand market

merry jacinth
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i see

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could you send me a link to a new rtx 3060?

merry jacinth
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awesome im in the US

brave field
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You'll also need a subreddit, stock checking site, discord server, etc to be alerted when they come back in stock if you want a better chance at one

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That, or you can try the EVGA queue or Newegg's lottery system

jovial tide
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Now how do I change my start buttons pic

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I got a good server

jovial tide
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keep that in mind

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Took 4 months for this

jovial tide
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Have a best buy account your address credit card and 2fa set up prior

hasty void
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damn

jovial tide
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I would go with the founders card as well

brave field
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No Founders 3060, which is wack

jovial tide
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got this but cancelled it lol

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3060ti is a far better value than the 3060

hasty void
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yeah

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400

brave field
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That also, yeah

hasty void
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is rreal good

jovial tide
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and is the card i reccomend to most people

hasty void
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oh btw

brave field
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$70 more isn't in everyone's budget but its a big step up

hasty void
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can someone look at my build

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and say if its good

jovial tide
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ok

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Post the pcpartpicker

hasty void
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uh i dontt hink i can send

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not level 5 lol

jovial tide
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Dm it to me

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And ill look at it

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First thing i saw is that the mobo is a bit misspecced

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I would reccomend a budget z490 and a 10600kf

hasty void
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o

jovial tide
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And maybe a better cpu cooler

hasty void
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is the z490 wifi mobo

brave field
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212 RGB is a no at that price

hasty void
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yh i plan to get a better cooelr

jovial tide
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10600kf is under 200 on staples

hasty void
brave field
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$200 for B4xx is a scam

jovial tide
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Or office depot

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i forgot which

brave field
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750W is hugely overkill for this PC

hasty void
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@jovial tide is the one you said have wifi built in

jovial tide
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I would get the corsair rm750

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save a little bit but have the overhead for future upgrades

hasty void
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yea

jovial tide
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Ill change the list

brave field
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If you absolutely NEED wifi, you'll be better off with a mobo that makes sense in this build and then some Intel AX200-based adapter

hasty void
brave field
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Should be cheaper as well overall, since that mobo is $200

jovial tide
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if you can use a lan cable you can get a cheaper board

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With all the same features

brave field
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U12S with a -k SKU?

jovial tide
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Why not

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Its a good cooler

brave field
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Why not something like the Macho Rev. C? Larger heatsink, cheaper price

jovial tide
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Actually at that point just buy an nhd15 lol or dark rock pro4

brave field
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practically a bootleg DRP4 ya

jovial tide
brave field
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list is private

jovial tide
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Fuck

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Post the actual link lol

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wtf im sending a damn link

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Fucking phone

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I'll send a screenshot when im back on pc

brave field
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10600KF at $200 is a wild price

jovial tide
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That ram looks awful

brave field
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$1150 with three parts missing prices

jovial tide
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I put the dark rock pro4 and added some p14s for front intake

brave field
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I need to look at the P300A Mesh again

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thought that was one with decent enough stock fans

jovial tide
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Not sure how many it has

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@hasty void go overkill cpu cooling like the one i put so you can overclock your cpu and still get really good temps

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And the pro4 and d15 look better than most aios imo

brave field
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D15 with Chromax and covers ๐Ÿ‘€

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looks so nice without the signature noctua brown

jovial tide
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I just found out that you can fit a 3080 strix in my case

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I have to unmount the front fans but its possible

hasty void
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@jovial tide dammmmmnn thanks for the build

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prolly gonna go with thta lol

jovial tide
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You can save a bit

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Also only buy 2 of the extra fans

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You dont need a third one

hasty void
hasty void
jovial tide
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That cooler is really overkill but the pc will run extremely quiet and

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This isnt required but if you want cablemod cables will make the pc look a lot nicer

jovial tide
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Yeah

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You can carry it over to future builds and it will still be more than enough lol

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A good cooler is always a good investment

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Air coolers last forever

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And also if you plan to game while having stuff in background i would buy 32 gigs of ram

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here's the screenshot of the list since link is actin up

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as i said a 5700xt/2070s/3060 Ti would be very welcome

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Jesus that gpu is so scalped

hasty void
jovial tide
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it was 399 in october

hasty void
jovial tide
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Did you already build it

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i'll take whatever is in stock

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im only missing the gpu and psu

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and the nvme drive but i'll get that during black friday, maybe 980 evo will go on sale instead

jovial tide
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alrighty

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this poor 3600x is running off a 4 pin power instead of 8 KEKW

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More longevity due to using 3 bit nand

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lol

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Wait why do you want a cpu upgrade

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Keep the 3600x

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i dont, i upgraded from a fx6300

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Oh i misread i think

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i'll maybe get a 5800x/5900x next year when prices sink a bit

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Thought it said 5600x lol

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For the ram get 3600 cl16

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too late

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oh lol

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its already built besides gpu and psu

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So get the rm750 for psu and 3060ti/3070 fe

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3070 is way out of my reach especially rn with these prices lol

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i'll go for seasonic cause i read that they make their stuff for other big game companies

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In usa the rm750 is 10 dollars cheaper than a comparable seasonic

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might be different in eu

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seasonic is cheaper here

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around 50 bucks cheaper

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Oh wow

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Ok go seaonic then

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im really impressed with the 3600x tho

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its not going over 60 degrees celsius on stock cooler

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maybe sometimes when i play fc5 but thats rarely

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id upgrade it tho

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i just got it

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i wouldn't upgrade it yet

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like the cooler

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not cpu

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was thinking about aio but idk if it would fit

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Is it the wraith stealth or prism rgb

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wraith stealth

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prism comes with 3700

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yeah you need something better

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dark rock pro4 is good

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noctuas stuff is also great

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i was offered a 3700x in the first place but i wanted to play humble and ordered a 3600 for 211 usd but a 3600x arrived instead

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ye i heard great stuff about noctua

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nhu12s would be good for it

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You could also go completely overkill

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and have super low temps

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i'd go aio but idk which brand is reliable

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i have to research more

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Air coolers are better

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Unless you go into custom loop

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Nhd15 chromax or dark rock pro4

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89 usd for dark rock pro

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ngl

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sounds like a deal tbh

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i doubt it'd fit tho

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Check case dimensions

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it will fit the case but the ram

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ah

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its probably in the way

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Get the u12s then

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And strap a second fan to it

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lmfao a second fan is 27 usd

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yeah noctuas are stupid expensive

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1 fan is fine anyway

fervent granite
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at what point does upgrading your pc hardware become pointless?

vapid island
kindred temple
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It heavily depends on your existing PC right now @fervent granite

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For used optiplex, its when you need to replace the board.

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Actually really for me

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Its when i have to replace the board entirely

kindred temple
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Auto buy for me.

vapid island
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i just hate the fact that the G413 stays red or what ever color you buy it in

kindred temple
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Weight your value in that then, would you buy the exact same thing just with better keycap compatibility and RGB?

vapid island
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i mean i changed the theme of my set up and it dosent match with a black and red keyboard so like yeah

kindred temple
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Actually, at 149 or so

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its kinda eh deal.

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As i say, its pretty much G413 RGB

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K70, A lot of Ducky/Magicforce kb, And drop ctrl is at that price point too.

fervent granite
kindred temple
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1080Ti is still massively good value

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especially used

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i would wait till 3000 series stabilize

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and get a MASSIVELY depreciated 2080Ti

fervent granite
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seems like nvidia is following in nintendo's footsteps in terms of production kek

jovial tide
urban iris
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So, I have a question about ray-tracing and RTX, and before I ask I just want to clarify that I'm neither trolling nor being contrarian, I just genuinely don't understand this because my background is entirely outside of tech;

Is ray-tracing/RTX supposed to make games more realistic, or is it just to enable devs to make more highly customized reflections/shadows in games? Alternatively, is ray-tracing largely just a gimmick to sell more expensive hardware for minor graphical "improvements"?

arctic yarrow
urban iris
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Also, what (aside from advanced lighting/textures/shadows) is the benefit to getting a 3060/3090 right now? The 2060 I have in my laptop seems to run any game under the sun just fine on high graphics, and ray-tracing alone is nowhere near enough to convince me, as I personally find it less realistic and less attractive in games.

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(sorry, was trying to finish up typing)

arctic yarrow
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Right now... I wouldn't buy a 3000 series due to inflated pricing alone.

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Also, If you haven't already, I recommend taking a look at the ray tracing options you have now for when you do eventually jump to a more powerful gpu. It really is up to preference, but I personally think the games look really fucking gorgeous with ray tracing turned on.

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I don't recommend actually playing games with ray tracing enabled with your current gpu, but turn it on just to see how it looks for you, then turn it back off.

fervent granite
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but why is ray tracing a hardware thing?

urban iris
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I've watched a lot of footage of ray-traced games, and just imo, it seems to take away from the graphical appearance. As for turning it on rn, I honestly have no idea how to.

arctic yarrow
fervent granite
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so you could use raytracing on any card or does it have to be them new cards?

arctic yarrow
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Also, Youtube's compression is god awful for actually viewing graphical options.

frigid echo
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ya youtube hates dark content in video games especially

arctic yarrow
urban iris
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Apparently Minecraft and Doom Eternal both have it, but I just haven't had the patience to figure out how to set it up

fervent granite
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damn it's really that heavy? I figured game developers could just write it in software

urban iris
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(those are the only games I own that have it afaik)

arctic yarrow
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Minecraft requires you to sign up for the beta.

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Doom eternal... I think it's in the graphics options.

frigid echo
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Minecraft is the biggest example of what it can do for a game

arctic yarrow
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Ok, doom eternal doesn't actually have (official) ray tracing support.

urban iris
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I mean - again, just imo - part of the appeal of minecraft is that it looks so simple and cartoonish, and giving it realistic lighting is missing the forest for the trees

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ah

arctic yarrow
fervent granite
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would be like giving animal crossing ray tracing kek

arctic yarrow
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I used a path tracing mod for minecraft prior to rtx coming out.

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It looked... realistic in a blocky way?

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I was using a 1070, and my fps tanked hard, down to 40 avg.

urban iris
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One other thing, which I'm having a hard time getting a direct answer to on forums. Does the PS4 Pro support ray-tracing? Won one in a drawing last year and almost never touched it (because controllers do not mesh with my brain), but if it does I might give it a shot with something free/cheap like Warzone

frigid echo
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it does not.

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allegedly the PS5 does though

urban iris
#

yeah, but I'm not getting within a mile of that, even if I could afford/find one

#

the last console I used was the Gamecube, and for very good reason.

frigid echo
#

also lucky to have won a ps4 pro. Wish i could pay ya for your lack of use of it

urban iris
#

I really am trying to get my brain to work with it, but it's so much goddam effort. I haven't used a controller for games since I was in elementary school, so it's a huge learning curve for muscle memory

#

and I think I'll like it once I do, but holy shit it's a struggle

frigid echo
#

ya hear ya on that. The gamecube controller is such a good feel in the hands and design

#

it's hilarious that controller and design has lasted till even the switch for Smash especially xD

urban iris
#

honestly, they found the winning formula, just a shame they put it on the back burner for the Wii for so long

#

anyway tho, back to work, but thanks for answering my questions

fervent granite
#

and yet the n64 controller gets no love Sadge

frigid echo
#

I still yet to mutate that third arm and hand for that part of the controller

kindred temple
brave field
#

RT acceleration on consumer hardware is a huge deal

#

I wasted so much time rendering in 2017 and 2018

#

36+ hours of GPU load for <2min of video sucks

#

Only took 25 years for it to come to us commonfolk

jovial tide
#

Does anyone know what video format mobile devices produce?

kindred temple
#

Still your usual H264 unless you use HEVC, that means its H265. Both MP4.

#

But for apple, iirc they use their own codecs

#

Wait nvm

#

Also H265.

jovial tide
#

Hey @brave field, what would happen if I move the recycle bin into a recycle bin shortcut

#

I feel like my PC is gonna explode

kindred temple
#

Nothing, because it would reject. If you want the recycle bin to be gone, use the desktop icon settings

jovial tide
#

Yea ik, I was just joking

kindred temple
#

I mean, i prefer my desktop to be filled with quick access to documents

#

or just nothing.

#

i use start menu for my actual quick access, or toolbar.

azure schooner
#

should I get windows for free or buy it ๐Ÿ˜Ÿ

kindred temple
#

All on your risk management factor. Are you willing to have to find new cracks everytime one you have doesnt work, or do you prefer something that will work out of the box?

#

I generally prefer the latter, grey market keys wont get you support but for 20-40$ its basically a lunch missed.

half pumice
#

I code too

rapid lake
#

I downloaded VoiceMeeter banana (Audio Software), and I need to keep it running without it being in my taskbar 24/7, what should I do?

kindred temple
#

I personally dont use voicemeeter.

#

I just accept the fact that i cant listen to music

rapid lake
#

I'm pretty sure there is a way to keep it running

#

Without seeing it in taskbar

#

I don't really mind it

brave field
#

there might be some argument you can pass when you run it

#

something like a --silent

blissful crow
#

Discord must place the (edited) near the time that the message is sent. Neat!

#

I don't like it, to be honest, I prefer to delete and resend, all because of that...

#

For example: Today at 7:00 AM (edited)

kindred temple
#

@brave field can i ask ya opinion for a bit?

#

How possible it is for apple to switch to an in house DRAM chips for both storage and RAM?

#

And how possible it is for them to start making their own monitor panel?

brave field
#

@kindred temple I don't think the first is likely at all

#

but the monitor panels... maybe?

#

It really depends on if they can get third party support. Their products sell well on their own but they don't have their own fabs, and producing DRAM themselves is probably going to be pretty expensive

#

I don't really understand much about standards either, but wouldn't they need to follow some sort of JEDEC something or other as well?

kindred temple
#

JEDEC Standard yeah

#

Imagine ADDR KappaFace

#

Apple DDR

brave field
#

Sounds very Apple to me

#

reinvent the wheel to look different

kindred temple
#

But yeah i think theyll just keep those to the outside people who actually know what theyre doing

#

Or buy out them, typical apple

#

:KappaFace:

brave field
#

Pretty sure the EU will blast them if they try any funny business on Micron or Hynix

kindred temple
#

Indeed.

brave field
#

Also, I don't think they could afford to buy them really

#

Apple has a LOT of money but all of it comes from the US, UK, and Canada. Their products sell poorly everywhere else, where Micron, Hynix, and Samsung's ram is in EVERYTHING

kindred temple
#

But panel though

#

Not gonna lie, theyve nailed the controller part MANY times by now.

#

Retina, imac 5k, prodisplay XDR

#

All they need is that extra 50%.

brave field
#

hm

#

I think they'd be successful making their own panels

#

but they probably have some deal with Samsung that saves them a lot of money already

kindred temple
#

Mhm

#

But with that they would have top down control on EVERYTHING that matters.

jovial tide
#

Do all windows computers have WinSxS?

light totem
#

i think it's pretty important folder iirc
its importance is equivalent to like
system32 folder?
not sure tho

#

and i think every windows os computer should have that folder

jovial tide
#

Ok ok, hmm

fervent granite
#

Would be awesome to see Apple making its own displays again, havenโ€™t seen those since the old cinema/thunderbolt displays

rapid lake
#

You will need to explain this in a very basic way because I'm the noobest person on earth Sadge

#

@brave field

brave field
#

@rapid lake read up on voicemeeter's documentation, or try adding "command line arguments" to your searches

#

there's often an extra few things you can throw into command prompt/powershell/.bat file when you open the app

rapid lake
#

I will look into it

#

Thanks

rose holly
rapid lake
jovial tide
#

anyone here have a performance lift on gtao when overclocking above 5.0 all core

stone ferry
#

Letโ€™s see... I should really up my ram to 16GB

jovial tide
#

want to try it this weekend

jovial tide
stone ferry
#

But I donโ€™t have any need for it, because Iโ€™m never using more than 3-4GB of ram at a time

jovial tide
#

32 is the sweet spot/a bit overkill

#

couple weeks ago i saw a 3200 cl16 32 gb kit of ram for 90 bucks on walmart

stone ferry
#

Iโ€™m running a Ryzen 5 3600X with a Radeon RX 5500 XT card. Everything runs smoothly with my SSD and 8GB ram ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

jovial tide
#

how many sticks does it have

#

if it has 1 you are losing a ton of performance and i would buy another 8 gb stick

stone ferry
#

I donโ€™t remember tbh, I put this together over a year ago lol

jovial tide
#

you should check

#

ryzen needs 2 sticks or else you lose a ton of performance

stone ferry
#

Iโ€™m fairly certain I got 2 4GB sticks

jovial tide
#

and preferably at 3200-3600 cl16

#

ok good

#

you can get a 16 gig kit and slot the other 2 sticks in the other slots

#

if you ever need more

#

ive gotten up to 20 gb usage in a google meet with chrome while playing gtao

stone ferry
#

Oh, I just checked cmd

#

Yeah itโ€™s 1 8GB stick

#

Actually hmm

#

Nope just checked inside, two sticks that are 4GB each

jovial tide
#

you know what speed its clocked at

stone ferry
#

2666 is the current speed I have it at

#

Cas latency/timing is 15-15-15-35 iirc

#

For the ddr4 ram, 2666 is standard without OC, and I havenโ€™t had any issues since I built this rig the end of 2019

#

If I wanted to upgrade to 2 8GB sticks, that would be $80 apparently. Keeping it the same brand and all.

#

It seems like theyโ€™ve been the best 16Gb kit for a while, according to Neweggโ€™s reviews

#

Same cas latency and timing, so I see no issues with having this be my upgrade

brave field
#

24GB total?

stone ferry
#

I mean, I โ€œcouldโ€ just add them to the other 2 slots, I guess. Wouldnโ€™t I have to move the slots around? Slot 1 and 3 being 8GB, slot 2 and 4 being 4GB?

brave field
#

2/4 being the 8gb sticks might be preferred but I don't think its a huge deal

stone ferry
#

Ah

brave field
#

same latency and timing though, definitely don't just abandon your old ram

stone ferry
#

Gotcha

brave field
#

even if there was a bad mismatch and you had to run 2133, capacity>speed a good 95% of the time
For every instance of "too slow ram," there's 50 of "not enough ram." Not to say 16gb isn't enough, but 24 doesn't really have a downside if you run the same mhz, cl, and timings

stone ferry
#

Yea itโ€™s identical copies, just a larger size

#

Okay

fervent granite
#

I don't think I've ever run into a situation where I didn't have enough ram tbh

#

but then again our lord and saviour bill gates did say that 640 kb of ram ought to be enough for everyone

brave field
#

Can someone do something about terrible web ads?

#

I tried visiting basic sites without ublock origin ONCE and its impossible to do anything

#

autoplaying videos, ads rendering at high resolutions that just spike GPU usage, ads with AV1 encoding at 8k that spike CPU usage, ads that move across the screen, ads that mess with clicking, or the cursor, ads with earrape volumes, fullscreen ads, ads that scroll with the breaks in the middle of articles, ads that follow the mouse cursor when hovering over links

fervent granite
#

seriously fuck those scroll ads

brave field
#

Even if you were someone interested in the ads, you wouldn't be able to click them because they either crash each other first or they crash the web browser tab

#

the scrolling ads reserve a box three times the height of the article but then you're just scrolling through a white or black background for 2-3 seconds yeah

fervent granite
#

clicking any sort of ads on mobile is a death sentence

#

after you get redirected about 100 times you could either land on a fake giveaway, a fake virus popup or the app store

brave field
#

Congratulations [android version unknown; iphone 4 or older] user !!!

fervent granite
#

What gives me a good laugh is you can edit the url to say whatever you want in most cases PepeLulLaugh

brave field
#

I have negative 10 seconds to download mobile antivirus full free 2021 before my files are deleted

fervent granite
#

bUT yOUr phONe iS InfECteD wItH (9) VirUSes

brave field
#

The other things I'd really love to never see again in web design

#

virtual assistant popups

#

"This site uses tracking cookies, but we leave out the tracking part when we describe them"

#

"If you're in the EU or California, we hate you. Give us data"

#

and any fullscreen coupon popups

#

virtual assistant ones in particular annoy me the most

fervent granite
#

don't forget the newsletter popups

#

becasue we all love to sign up to get our emails sold

brave field
#

tasty

pulsar widget
#

Coding

jovial tide
#

Chrome eats up my ram

#

32 gigs is the sweet spot and will last me and most people a long time

fervent granite
brave field
#

still waiting for a browser with Chromium's speed and Firefox's privacy, ram use, and NOT having SoftwareReporterTool

fervent granite
#

As long as google holds the keys to chromium I donโ€™t think itโ€™ll ever happen

jovial tide
#

Chrome steals your data but is the most convenient for me so i use it

fervent granite
#

Quite honestly Iโ€™ve never had a reason to use chrome

jovial tide
#

All my stuff uses the google suite

#

like classroom docs drive etc

light sinew
#

very few people will need 32gb at this point in time

fervent granite
#

I considered that, but then again any browser can do that

light sinew
#

I kinda wanna get more ram just to have it but I know I don't need it

jovial tide
#

Everyone needs 32 ๐Ÿ˜Ž

light sinew
#

maybe in 5 years

jovial tide
#

I do a lot of gaming while running classroom in background

fervent granite
#

Of course Iโ€™ve also used g suite (apps for education) but i donโ€™t see how chrome makes it any better imo

jovial tide
#

Hit 20gb of ram usage a lot

light sinew
#

fr?

#

Are you playing crisis remastered while running five zoom tabs lmao

jovial tide
#

yeah

fervent granite
#

^while rendering an 8k 144fps video and bitcoin mining /s

jovial tide
#

I have like 20 tabs open a lot of the time

#

20-30

fervent granite
#

Really? At most I have like 10

#

And that was when I wrote papers/did research

light sinew
#

I would have a headache with too many tabs idk how some people do that

#

At most I would have like 7-12 and have them split in two between monitors to ease that clusterfuck

fervent granite
#

An old friend of mine always had 4-5 chrome windows open each with like 20+ tabs

light sinew
#

when I write stuff

#

Oh I lied I had a shit ton of tabs open once when I was getting on of my sneakers

#

20 different chrome windows not tabs

jovial tide
#

Like 5-10 of them are the best buy site whenever theres a drop

light sinew
#

for the new consoles?

jovial tide
#

Nah pc

#

i had a series x and ps5 past checkout before

#

Decided not to

#

Buying 2 3070/3060tis for family

#

And selling their 2060 supers

light sinew
#

The prices for them spiked super recently idk who would pay $1100 for a $500 card

jovial tide
#

I can make like 50 bucks and they get a far better gpu

#

win win

light sinew
#

more than double retail

jovial tide
#

i only pay retail

#

best buy is the best place to buy new gpus

#

And consoles

light sinew
#

Do you have a setup for it or do you do all of it manually

jovial tide
#

Manually

light sinew
#

respectful

jovial tide
#

You cant use bots on best buy

light sinew
#

nice

jovial tide
#

At least ones that completely auto checkout

#

I think they only cart it for you and select the store

light sinew
#

If I got a 3070 I would install that in my computer and sell my 2070s while they are ridiculously overpriced

#

used ones are going for $600-$800

jovial tide
#

Took forever

jovial tide
#

Exactly what im doing with the 2060 supers

#

Sell high

light sinew
#

I built my pc in August, literally a month before all this overpriced reckoning so i'm thankful to have parts in the flesh xD

#

back when 2070s's were $500

jovial tide
#

I built mine in October and got the gpu a month ago

light sinew
#

because they were still on shelves

jovial tide
#

yeah

light sinew
#

It's crazy I wonder when things will go back to retail prices again, i'm used to this with like Yeezys but mass market semiconductors? Kinda crazy how much they are going over retail value

jovial tide
#

Probably in 2022

light sinew
#

dam

jovial tide
#

Take advantage of it now

#

Sell your old hardware at a profit

light sinew
#

3070's will be available when they make the 4000 series

jovial tide
#

And buy the new stuff

#

Also 3070 isn't that hard to get

#

From my experience 3060ti and 3080 are the hardest to buy

light sinew
#

oh wait the new cards need a special thing or do they work with my motherboard, I think I just have the b450

jovial tide
#

no youre fine

light sinew
#

cool

jovial tide
#

Im on intel so i only have pcie gen 3

#

Same with b450

#

So it works out of the box

light sinew
#

so the new ones don't need 4.0?

jovial tide
#

no

light sinew
#

idk much about the specifics, so that's good to hear

jovial tide
#

barely makes a difference in most games

#

Only game ive seen it make a difference is at csgo

#

But you are already running at 500-600 fps so it doesnt really count

light sinew
#

csgo can get 300 frames on a Toaster lol

#

It's an interesting game

jovial tide
#

yeah

#

csgo needs a fast cpu more than anything

#

waiting for ml120s to go on sale to put as bottom intake lol

#

and the beautiful cable management too

fervent granite
#

The last pc I worked on was an old e-machines tower

light sinew
#

@jovial tide I looked into it a bit more and I think i'm going to do this, is the 3070 performance a big difference from a 2070s?

jovial tide
#

What cpu do you have and psu

light sinew
#

I have a 750w 80+ gold and for cpu it is a 3700x

#

I don't have enough for the 3080 at the moment

jovial tide
#

save up a little bit more

#

I would either get a 3060ti or 3080

light sinew
#

the 3060ti is better?

jovial tide
#

And the 3700x can handle both easily

#

Better value than 3070

light sinew
#

hm

jovial tide
light sinew
#

@jovial tide When you got yours was it shipped or did you pick it up at a store

jovial tide
#

picked it up

#

most cases you will need to pick it up

light sinew
#

Since pickup is an option I'm doing that because the incompetent delivery people would probably drop it off at the house behind ours

jovial tide
#

Pickup is best

light sinew
#

indeed

jovial tide
#

And delivery is unlikely to get anyway

#

Most areas are pickup only

light sinew
#

cool

fervent granite
kindred temple
iron lantern
#

dogesimiplification

fervent granite
brave field
#

I'm starting to understand why I hate my Java class and enjoy Python so much

#

I hate learning how to program on pencil and paper

#

I hate acting as if I wouldn't have an IDE installed

#

and I don't like learning fundamentals of things but not being challenged to actually put those fundamentals to use

upbeat spade
#

i'm dreading next semester where i take program design again and re-learn java for the second time, except that this time around i completely forgot all programming that i learned in the past ๐Ÿ‘

brave field
#

well that is also part of it

#

it is very annoying to write

#

and I don't like reading it

upbeat spade
#

wym, don't you like three closing brackets making your function big as fuck

upbeat spade
#

no PainChamp

spring condor
#

Going back to java is like going back to your abusive ex

fervent granite
#

fixing to do that ngl

#

just until I know enough to actually make a program on my own

brave field
#

need hotkeys for print statement

#

why is it so long

#

and why must I rely on an IDE to make a main function

#

what is this called, boilerplate?

#

stuff you just have to have but nobody explains to beginners

#

public static void main(String[] args) throws Exception {}

fervent granite
#

I think the print statement shortcut is ctrl+space?

brave field
#

I use VSCode for Java, they're snippets there and I need to look up how to make one

#

You use IntelliJ? Android Studio?

#

The masochist one, Eclipse?

#

Sublime Text? Atom?

fervent granite
brave field
#

Tried it day one

#

I realized I'd be better off using Microsoft Paint as an IDE

#

man that thing is clunky

fervent granite
#

certainly feels that way after not having used it for 2 years

#

I barely remembered how to actually make a new project/class

brave field
#

It combines the worst parts of everything

#

Its slow to load like Jetbrains IDEs, and low on features like a barebones text editor

#

and its boring and makes you do more work than you actually need, just like the language itself

fervent granite
#

apparently that's what makes it a good learning language, at least that's what someone told me

brave field
#

probably true

#

I hate doing extra, makes me lose motivation

#

that is why I am fan of Python and batch :catyes_no_nitro:

fervent granite
#

Minecraft Java Python Edition

brave field
#

I almost considered spending time on Java to mess around with Baritone bots

#

but then I saw it: Jython

fervent granite
#

that's a thing?

brave field
#

Its locked to Python 2.x so not really anymore

#

but it does look interesting, and I did consider

fervent granite
#

seems like a "jack of all trade master of none" type thing

strong saffron
fervent granite
#

public class uh extends oh implements actionkeylistener

kindred temple
#

is RTX 3090 gonna be the top of Ampere or are we going to see a titan RTX 2 or something like that?

jovial tide
#

i recently flashed lineageos on my redmi note 7, but i didnt download gapps or microg at the start, is there any way i can do that now?

bright wagon
#

1650ti is trash

#

lol

#

i

#

want

#

to

#

level

#

up

#

sussy

#

like

#

amog

#

us

cold elbow
bright wagon
#

sussy

#

airpod shotty

shell aspen
#

E

brave field
#

"Same hashrate limiting as the 3060"
So you can't mine ethash coins, a 20 cent reduction in profitability

#

Another PR stunt

empty coral
#

@brave field sorry for the ping, do you think the 3060 is worth the 70 dollars less than the 3060ti?

brave field
#

I don't, no

#

That $70 gets you from a 2060S equivalent to a 2080s equivalent

#

@empty coral I think the base 3060 is the third worst value RTX 30 series GPU after the 3090 and 3070

empty coral
#

oh alr thanks

rustic cape
#

Do you guys have any PC recommendations?

brave field
#

budget, usecase, country?

rustic cape
arctic yarrow
#

In all seriousness, what's your budget and what you'll use it for?

rustic cape
#

I'll use it for CSGO and GTA and rust

#

My budget is $2,000

arctic yarrow
#

Ok, I'll take a quick look at pcpp. w1

rustic cape
#

k

#

DM me about it I'm gonna get some lunch

jovial tide
#

Doesnt rust basically require using an ssd

brave field
#

Only for loading to the main menu

#

and loading into the first server you join per game start

#

No issues or stutter ingame on a 7200RPM though

jovial tide
#

I have the game but haven't played it yet

brave field
#

give it a try, its fun but difficult solo

jovial tide
#

Might play with a friend today

#

I mostly play gta csgo and minecraft so itll be a nice change

#

tryna build a giant city in minecraft for rtx

quasi yoke
#

I hope no one is stupid enough to buy a GPU rn

cold elbow
#

You'd be surprised

jovial tide
#

like msrp or scalped

quasi yoke
#

Scalped

jovial tide
#

ah

#

i bought mine for msro

#

msrp

#

people that buy scalped things encourage scalpers

quasi yoke
#

Here they are either out of stock, or being sold by 3rd parties for

#

thats a 2060, same for every other GPU

jovial tide
#

lol

#

whoever buys a last gen card for those prices is stupid

cold elbow
#

Or rich

quasi yoke
#

One doesn't cancel the other

#

Or well, maybe they just don't know their normal prices

arctic yarrow
#

How dangerous do you guys think this is? The two wires and plug prongs are isolated by a shitton of electrical tape.

brave field
#

as long as it doesn't get hot

arctic yarrow
#

I should probably test that huh?

#

plug in a usb device I don't care about and let it run for 10 min?

brave field
#

be 100% sure everything is isolated from both the outside and each other, a multimeter could be helpful

#

and I guess so, yeah

#

10 minute

arctic yarrow
#

Ya, I made 100% sure, hence the shitton of electrical tape

jovial tide
#

@serene topaz

serene topaz
#

ooo

#

nice

#

are all sides glass?

jovial tide
#

yes

#

besides the back and right side

serene topaz
#

nice

molten vessel
#

can an i3 8100 and rx 570 run gta at an enjoyable framerate on good settings?

light totem
#

Well
If u take 30fps in online as โ€œenjoyableโ€ then maybe
Story mode should get around 60 on all low

jovial tide
#

i3 8100 is a 4 core right

#

should be fine

#

40-50 in online

brave field
#

@molten vessel easily

#

As long as you're not actively trying to run max settings, you should get >60fps in story pretty much everywhere and 40-60 sounds right for online mode, might be worse in heavily-populated sessions in the middle of LS

#

(unless cayo update has messed with things? This game really shouldn't be THAT difficult to run with the decent singlethread you can expect from an 8100)

fervent granite
#

holup

#

I thought we were friends WeirdChamp

kindred temple
#

Act 2 solo have no RNG KekLaugh

dusky bloom
#

anyone know why that when ever I am in Cayo Perico my FPS drops dramatically, I dont think its my specs because in LS its 80+ but in cayo perico its around 30FPS?

kindred temple
#

Massive vegetation count in cayo perico pretty much tank the performance regardless.

#

Turn down every details (except texture details on high) would be pretty much what should ya do. Also next time, #gta-tech-support

fervent granite
#

What vegetation? All I see is concrete that looks like trees/bushes

rapid hull
#

pc offers a lot of customization because u can always get better parts

#

thats a good pro

#

consoles u can get any better

slender trellis
#

PC has more backwards compatible and Steam offers games from current gen all the way back to the DOS era like MW3 and Leisure Suit Larry

rapid hull
#

cant

slender trellis
#

PS4 is stuck with remasters of a game

fervent granite
#

I'm still happy with my xbox one though

rapid hull
#

yea ik that

slender trellis
#

I'm glad that I have my Laptop to play Gta v on the go

fervent granite
#

I can think of a few

slender trellis
#

https://youtu.be/jl4wWgKcxMM
This bad boy is out guys.

In This video we test out 10 PC games on the AYA NEO, A Ryzen 4500U Handheld gaming PC with built in controls! With 6 cores clocked up to 4.0Ghz and backed by 16GB of ram plus built in Radeon 6 Graphics clocked at 1500Mhz this handheld has some power!
We test out Halo 3, Overwatch, Dauntless, Genshin Impact, Rocket League, WarFrame, World Of War...

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Portable PC

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Like a gameboy advanced

rapid hull
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modders being a big one of them

fervent granite
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windows

slender trellis
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Bad PC ports can be easily fixed

rapid hull
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ur telling me modding in gta o isn't a issue?

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fervent granite
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I never said the xbox was perfec either though ThinkOK

rapid hull
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im talking about modding in general

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and gta online

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online games

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not nearly as much on console

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almost impossible tbh

slender trellis
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We have emulators to play PS2 and Original Xbox games

rapid hull
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console does have some booting problems tho

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there are plenty of game that aren't

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thats also preference

slender trellis
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GTA V on keyboard is way too hard for me, so I connect my gamepad to play.

fervent granite
rapid hull
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i mean ig siege

fervent granite
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I prefer playing on actual hardware whenever possible, especially with emulators like rpcs3 or yuzu

rapid hull
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ur at a disadvantage using controller

slender trellis
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We have Xenia also to play 360 games

rapid hull
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ok but no day 1 console player is going switch to pc money wise

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so many stuff lost in the progress

fervent granite
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yeah try using yuzu on a regular pc and tell me how it goes OkayChamp

rapid hull
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including ur progress

slender trellis
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GPD Win and Aya Neo have the power to play PC on the go like the Switch

rapid hull
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have to buy all ur games again

fervent granite
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The switch emulator?

slender trellis
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Nintendo Switch emulator

fervent granite
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way too expensive imo

slender trellis
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Aya Neo and Gpd win also a portable gaming

rapid hull
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u can play on console from ur phone

fervent granite
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the console itself it nice but if only games wren't $60 a pop and having to pay for that horrid switch online

slender trellis
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Look up GPD Win 3

rapid hull
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just connect a controller to ur phone via bluetooth

slender trellis
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The GPD Win 1 is crap at the start

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Maybe there's a way to play Steam games on Switch

fervent granite
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with a modded system probably, I've seen people run ubuntu on it and I think andorid too

slender trellis
fervent granite
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I'm happy with my consoles and my Macbook yay

slender trellis
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I wish Switch mod devs will implement windows 10 for Switch

fervent granite
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eww don't even try putting windows on the switch

brave field
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why would you ever want windows on the switch

fervent granite
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it wouldn't even run as it's an arm-based system

slender trellis
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Good thing I ran Mac OS on a non-Mac PC

fervent granite
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there's arm-based windows but that thing's pretty much useless

slender trellis
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I have Mac, Ubuntu, and Windows all in one on my PC

fervent granite
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I've got all these guys :D

slender trellis
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My next goal is to put DOS on my PC also.

fervent granite
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Vista is the newest edition but I don't actually need it for anything kek

brave field
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these are the worst takes all year

kindred temple
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no on-the-fly OS upgrade
Massive amount of telemetry
0 HAL for ARM, needs full port

slender trellis
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I have a bootable FreeDOS usb to play DOS games natively

kindred temple
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And this is coming from a windows main

kindred temple
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MASSIVE AMOUNT OF TELEMETRY

fervent granite
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AND all the useless bloatware/ads it puts on you

brave field
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Man praises Windows and bashes Linux
Microsoft continues to put more and more of Linux into Windows

kindred temple
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Google "Steam Proton"

fervent granite
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Man also hates mac os because... no real reason?

slender trellis
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Mac on the otherhand, looks cool for a hipster who is using it for video editing and DJ software

kindred temple
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M1 macbook air will be my next daily driver.

slender trellis
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You can put windows on a Mac

fervent granite
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And I have

slender trellis
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Using Bootcamp

kindred temple
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Was going to get myself HP spectre, but now im going to run for that ARM shit

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Not even ironically

slender trellis
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Have you tried using Hackintosh?

brave field
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Laptops don't exist anymore

fervent granite
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it's not like I need it but it's there because I put my colleges malware lockdown growser on it

kindred temple
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I will get it, i will get thru the hell that is the gesture

brave field
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The last laptop was the Thinkpad T440p and nobody can convince me otherwise

kindred temple
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Ok r/pcmasterrace

slender trellis
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Hackintosh is the money saving method to run Mac on your gaming PC.

kindred temple
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And remember this is coming from a windows user

fervent granite
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and a great pain in the arse to get to work assuming it does at all

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Because...?

kindred temple
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Yeah because game is literally the only shit people do.

fervent granite
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citation needed

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also jokes on you because the rockstar launcher isn't even available for mac pepeLaughYou

kindred temple
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Mac pro can run mafia 3 on medium wdym lmao

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And that game is MASSIVELY unoptimized on windows.

fervent granite
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like what kind?

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It's on the app store mate OkayChamp

brave field
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The Steam version requires the rockstar launcher now

kindred temple
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RGL bad, mac bad, linux bad...

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Imma complete the quadrivecta.

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Intel 12th gen is new dawn of intel.

fervent granite
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then he must not have a phone as they're all unix based

slender trellis
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New PCs can handle next gen games

brave field
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not r/pcmasterrace until they blame world hunger and tiktok on cryptocurrency mining

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What defines a "gen?" What is next-gen, or last-gen?

kindred temple
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^

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And?

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Microsoft store exists.

fervent granite
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Uh yeah aka the equivalent of the microsoft store for windows

light totem
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not every "program" of yours require a huge load of gpu usage you know

kindred temple
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And not like you cant sideload on mac either

kindred temple
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God bless CUDA and OpenCL.

light totem
brave field
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Everyone is a degenerate to someone