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dim shell
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no

ionic thistle
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was gonna get one

dim shell
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my friend helped me build it kekw

ionic thistle
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but found a cheap pc from a internet cafe that closed down

kindred temple
dim shell
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i mean

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i can run any game

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at max settings

ionic thistle
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got mine for like 500rm
which is 123 usd

dim shell
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and with max fps

ionic thistle
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y'all think it's worth it ?

dim shell
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this card can beat any other card

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so good performance

ionic thistle
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weird flex but okay

dim shell
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doesn't let me down 😤

kindred temple
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theyre the enforcer of the "Core i7 with GT series card" stereotype.

ionic thistle
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do i wish i had that pc

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that pc could run doom on max settingss

kindred temple
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Most internet cafes especially geforce sponsored ones usually have mid end GPU at best.

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But doom is mad optimized

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i can run maxxed out at 145fps on my rig

ionic thistle
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i ran mine on low

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with 40 fps when fighting and 90 fps when exploring

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pretty fun

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and surprising

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i thought i would only get 20 fps :v

kindred temple
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its just that impressive.

ionic thistle
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looked up the price for the 2060 and fuck is it expensive

kindred temple
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Anyway, with country at hand

ionic thistle
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like 2k bucks here

kindred temple
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i do think you can at best get 1660 or 1650 super.

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Which would still be good buy imo.

ionic thistle
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alr

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i'll get that

kindred temple
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But again, consider used. I dont know about malaysia's used scene that well.

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Im Indonesian.

ionic thistle
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hmmmm
almost the same price online

ionic thistle
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damn i looked up the prices

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i'm really thinking of selling my gunplas at this point

brave field
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All the people on reddit and bapo who swore stock issues are solely the cause of mining and that the driver change would mean the 3060 is always in stock are mad right now

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Surely its not actually possible being in a pandemic could have an effect on production and demand? /s

brave field
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3060 looks really... bad for the price

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Its performance lines up with Nvidia slides from a month ago. $70 difference between a 3060 and a 3060ti, but the 3060 ti trades with a 2080S while the 3060 trades with a 2060S

fervent granite
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I got an email about the 3060 too

slender trellis
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Yesterday, I stopped playing Online to fix my Hackintosh issues that had missing sounds and poor optimization. Right now, my Hackintosh is now upgraded to Big Sur. The new bootloader is very optimized and very easy for newbies.

fervent granite
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Big Sur BBdisgust

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Also kinda sad that they don’t call them ā€œHacsā€

jovial tide
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i am confused

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should i get the r5 1600af/2600x or 3500x or the i5 10400f all of them are in the 150s neighborhood

jovial tide
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anyone?

cold elbow
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@jovial tide if you're doing gaming the 3500x/ 10400f are perfect for it
skip the 1600af
2600 if u do rendering or whatever needs a lot of threads

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i would still recommend the 3500x instead of 10400f is u would like to upgrade in the future

arctic yarrow
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Getting real pissed with windws defender fucking with my server. What linux distro do y'all suggest I move my server to?

brave field
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Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Bodhi, and Manjaro have been great for me but I have no experience running a server for that game on any

fervent granite
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maybe try windows server?

jovial tide
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someone here knows how to use zmodeling?

cold elbow
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@arctic yarrow ubuntu maybe
And a gaming friendly destro is popOS

hot tulip
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How do i code gta so i spawn issis for free online?

arctic yarrow
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crimson sentinel
brave sentinel
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I'd use Ubuntu. Has it's problems, but so does every distro. If ur not experienced it has one of the biggest communities. Probably an ehow already for what ur tryna do.

crimson sentinel
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Any other suggestions?

brave field
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This list is specifically for freedom of speech, not just decentralized or FOSS alternatives?

crimson sentinel
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Yeah there's fully decentralized. But run like thrash.
I think centralised to a point is needed on a decentralized architecture

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Like clusters.
There's hound.fm using the lbry network and live streaming soon

kindred temple
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except Gab.

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Same with Parler. Both are condoning Freedom of Speech by basically turning their entire platform to anarchy.

jovial tide
crimson sentinel
teal flower
hasty sandal
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Hey guys can someone help me i fucked up my coding and i keep crashing

rapid lake
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What app you using?

fervent granite
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or would that be chromium -> gecko? monkaHmm

hushed umbra
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anyone here rotoscope's as an hobby? could ask for some help with a clip

jovial tide
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dude get 5600x and 3060ti

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ill help with the other stuff

native sentinel
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Aight

jovial tide
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the 5600x you can overclock and get better performance as well

brave field
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Are 5600X prices not still ridiculous?

jovial tide
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when they drop they are not that hard to buy

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the hard ones to get are the ryzen 9s

brave field
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I meant the prices

jovial tide
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can get it for msrp

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i got a 3080 for msrp

brave field
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oh, still ridiculous

jovial tide
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also got a 3060ti for msrp

brave field
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RTX 30 series is easy to get for MSRP compared to RX 6xxx or Ryzen 5xxx, but 5600X MSRP is too high already

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A 10400/f is half the price and isn't even 15% slower

jovial tide
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i do agree with the 10400f thing

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i would get a 10600kf

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ive seen it for 180 bucks

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ive heard that 11400 beats the 10900k for gaming so imma wait

brave field
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11 series is supposed to beat Zen3 in IPC and singlecore, so likely

jovial tide
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im waiting for alder lake

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on comet lake rn

brave field
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I'm interested in the 11100/11300/11350k if those happen. The 3300X is still MIA if you're not in Asia and Intel having the lead there 3 generations in a row might push AMD to do something about that

jovial tide
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i mean amd now beats intel

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im excited for alder lake tho

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@native sentinel need a pcpartpicker list

native sentinel
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Hm?

brave field
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There's no competition from AMD in the $150 or below area though, I think Intel might push to become the budget go-to with 11th gen

jovial tide
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i can make a list

native sentinel
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Sure, but I’ve gotta go do my studying now.

jovial tide
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ok

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yeah the 10400 is really good rn

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Just saying if anyone here wants to throw away 450 dollars the 5800x is in stock at best buy still

burnt shoal
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guys got a quick question my internet (Wi-Fi) but also etherneti kinda noticed is spiking often usually around 60-80 ping but then it spikes from 200-1000 from couple seconds anyone knows why or any settings i could change or is it just my internet provider being garbage?

kindred temple
jovial tide
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yeah

kindred temple
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But yeah, welcome to Intel, where your board lasting more than 2 years is a blessing, not a standard

jovial tide
arctic yarrow
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Meanwhile AMD is absolutely curb-stomping, and now Intel is considered a "budget" option. My how the tables turn.

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Who woulda thought Intel would take the "space heater" trophy from AMD?

fervent granite
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screenshots are a thing ya know GudaEhehe

jovial tide
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lol

steep siren
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bruh

jovial tide
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is that a 1030?

steep siren
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yes im getting rid of that shit

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what about everything else tho?

fervent granite
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You reckon windows 8 would run on an older machine?

jovial tide
fervent granite
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I've got windows 10 on it right now, but it's really slow

steep siren
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bruh

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gr

strong saffron
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I don't think it'll be much of an improvement over Win 10, if at all

kindred temple
jovial tide
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Wich gpu should I buy

kindred temple
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But by that stage i would ask a better question: why not R3 3300X?

jovial tide
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3100 and 3300x are impossible to buy in the states

jovial tide
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I am waiting for alder lake which i hope is a huge leap for intel

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I want to have pcie4 eventually

kindred temple
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So just like every single zen+ and zen 2 on the market?

jovial tide
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They were hard to get before zen 3

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The 10400 is a far better value rn

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also i can easily buy a 3600 or 3700x

jovial tide
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good enough for now

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1650 is a ripoff

brave field
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Silicon shortage, semiconductor shortage, COVID in factories PepeHands

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SATA SSD prices were dropping so fast in 2019

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Cap price increase in Japan, NAND price hikes, DDR4 slowly inching upwards in price, 25% import tax on pretty much everything if in the US

kindred temple
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1V1 me, buying new parts that isnt scalped @brave field

brave field
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And then the general community around all these things is quickly becoming more and more toxic too

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Everyone seems to have one specific group of people they fully scapegoat for global issues

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"It's miners!" "It's Nvidia themselves!" "It's scalpers!" "Its this or that political party!" "It's Samsung, or PlayStation, or Honda civic drivers!"

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Really makes the worst come out of some people too

jovial tide
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Its outsourcing

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lol

brave field
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@kindred temple Easy, if I can count case fans as new parts OkayChamp ?

jovial tide
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Luckily i build my rig before stuff became hard to find

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3080 was the only hard part

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At least its finally over

brave field
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Same

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I'd love to upgrade my graphics card, but there's nothing in my budget even if prices for new SKUs were always MSRP

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but my plans to upgrade my main PC and replace my server PC with dual xeons are dead for now PepeHands

jovial tide
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lol

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Im lucky i got this thing for msrp

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Took 4 months

fervent granite
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Dual Xeons? I’ve only got a haswell i7 Sadge

brave field
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Missed an alibaba bundle for $60

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No plans to spend >$80 on that system

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Really I wish the nearby scrapyard was open

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Been months since I got a working PC for free to $5

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And there was a dual Xeon system there already that I passed up because I didn't have a screwdriver on me PepeHands

fervent granite
cursive hemlock
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@strong saffron got banned from discord

strong saffron
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what

brave field
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@fervent granite Loads of people throw out working systems all the time

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I get them off people for free or offer $5-$10

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Usually i5/i7 2nd or 3rd gen, nothing outstanding but they're pretty capable for a Hamilton and a few minute drive

fervent granite
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My cheapest pc just dies a few months ago Sadge

brave field
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If I find a 750ti or a 660 or something I sell it as a whole for $300

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R.I.P. Sadge

fervent granite
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yeah, the poor thing lasted a good 12 years

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it's motherboard is dead so there's really nothing I can do peepoShrug

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I just never look for those cheap pc's as I don't really have the room for them, and I don't have any peripherals to use them with

brave field
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Maybe you'll have luck

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when uh, everything fixes itself

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If you're able to check safely without COVID and all

fervent granite
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usually I fix stuff until it breaks KEKW

brave field
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What's broken on the mobo?

fervent granite
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hp doesn't give much info other than "motherboard issues"

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either that or it's a dead cpu, neither of which I can really fix

brave field
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Did a ram reseat recently?

fervent granite
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Yep, took out it's hard drives too

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the system just doesn't post, you push the button and it never shows any output

brave field
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Ah, unfortunate

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Got a scrapyard nearby? You might be able to find a board

fervent granite
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I doubt it honestly

brave field
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oh, laptop

fervent granite
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a fossil at this point

brave field
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Could probably find one, old stuff at scrapyards is common but the boards for laptops are always in terrible shape when I see them

fervent granite
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the only use this laptop had was for making hard disk images as it had 2 hard drive slots

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I bought an enclosure a few months back, so there wasn't much use left in it shrug

jovial tide
fervent granite
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Finally intel getting some love yay

jovial tide
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Got it on sale lol

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Was before ryzen 5000

fervent granite
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always makes me kind of sad that intel is going downhill lately

jovial tide
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alder lake will be the return watch

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Rocket lake looks garbage

fervent granite
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I hope so but I wouldn't be surprised if amd chips were still "the best bang for your buck" like everyone says

jovial tide
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Intel is bang for buck rn

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And they actually have stock

fervent granite
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Is it? I thought ryzen chips were all the rage

jovial tide
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Somehow got a 3080

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compare intel 10th gen prices to equivalent ryzen 5000 stuff

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You can get a 10850k at microcenter for 350 bucks

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A 5800x is 450

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Ive seen 10600ks go for under 200

fervent granite
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hope I live to see the day where they sell mobile processors Sadge

brave field
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Something like an Intel Atom but usable?

cold elbow
fervent granite
jovial tide
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going to overclock tonight so epic

tidal flower
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Hey?

jovial tide
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Dude got banned

kindred temple
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@brave field have you consider waterbottle from lttstore.com?

brave field
keen shell
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Soo, no ones talking about coding?

arctic yarrow
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Sometimes we do. It's mostly hardware tho.

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Oh, quick question. What's the best way to select a file in the OS for manipulation in a python program? I've created a basic pdf merger and a basic video cutter, but having to drag the program in the same folder as the files and type in the name of the file is a bit cumbersome.

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I didn't specifically code the merger and cutter, I merely utilized some libraries.

jovial tide
arctic yarrow
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That's... tech related, but also a shitpost. Not sure how I feel about it.

brave field
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type the whole path in your python program?

kindred temple
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The followup tweet is even better lulw @jovial tide

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legit trying to potray linus as black hating person

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while his techtube friends is like half black LULW

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And his stance is mad neutral

arctic yarrow
brave field
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hm

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like a "Browse file" window?

arctic yarrow
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Yes

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My program works, but it's cumbersome to type each file name or file path.

brave field
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If you have tkinter anywhere in your project, you can call it through this:


L = filedialog.askopenfilename(initialdir="/", title="Select a video file")
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oops

arctic yarrow
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So I was thinking of finding some way to use file selector to select the file path, then export the output file into a specified folder

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No wait, that might work for my video cutting program.

brave field
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o

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tkinter.filedialog yes

arctic yarrow
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My pdf merger might be a different story

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or it could be similar

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That's simple, why didn't I think of that? I guess I don't have the brainpower to look at obvious things when my physics professor constantly assigns 5-7 hours of homework per day.

west timber
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Can anybody give me GTA 5 code

cold elbow
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no

jovial tide
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Can anyone tell me what's coding?

pliant walrus
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Coding = programming @jovial tide

jovial tide
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What's that

nocturne kayak
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Stop milking Cayo Percio

kindred temple
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@jovial tide basically typing a bunch of characters in a way to create an application

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Like games

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Or... Discord.

lusty apex
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@jovial tide it makes u understand what number means

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0101010110011010101010010100001

jovial tide
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Program among us

jovial tide
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it said steam error an error occurred while updating gta5

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ohhh thx for helping now it works

wheat lark
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Thought that said mommy milkys

fervent granite
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Uncover pulled out a victory unc0ver PogChamp

jovial tide
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lol i have to short some pins to clear cmos

fervent granite
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She lives once more!

clear agate
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Mad man has gone right into the disassembly to figure out what's happening with GTA Online load times, and he's found something good https://nee.lv/2021/02/28/How-I-cut-GTA-Online-loading-times-by-70/ The game parses 10MB(?!) of JSON really badly every startup, or something

jovial tide
fervent granite
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When pc gamers buy high resolution monitors like 2560 x 1440 how do they make them work nicely with windows?

jovial tide
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i think it worked

fervent granite
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Mine's 2880 x 1800 :/

brave field
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Works nicely with Windows instantly

fervent granite
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Stuff either looks really small or somewhat blurry, but I think I've found somewhat of a balance

brave field
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If you're not using your panel's native resolution, you should use GPU scaling

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Letting your display do the scaling causes those sorts of issues sometimes

fervent granite
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I let windows do the scaling if that changes anything peepoShrug

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I think it's set to 200% last time I checked

brave field
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Windows 7-10 scales the apps and text with that option, but your GPU's control panel app/driver is in charge of determining if the GPU or the display is the one making things fit well

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optionally, integer scaling may or may not help with text some, even though the settings are designed specifically for running resolutions that your monitor doesn't target

fervent granite
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for example, this is what xp looks like KEKW

brave field
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ahhh, XP

fervent granite
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The fact that my pharmacy software runs on this old of an os is both concerning but kinda neat, I haven't used xp in over 10 years

brave field
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really was a great OS

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while its not old enough to feel dated in normal use, you can definitely feel those QoL things missing that were added in 7 though

fervent granite
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Really? I draw the "dated" line right on vista as it's not much different from 7 in terms of aesthetics/functionality, and we know how awesome 7 was

brave field
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windows 98 feels dated

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I could probably use XP daily if it was actually suitable for most things now

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95 and 98 would frustrate me though

fervent granite
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Your hardware might freak out a bit but nothing a vm can handle

brave field
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Everything else has passed it up, yeah

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I can use it in a VM but web browsers hate running on it sometimes (please, cut it out with the security and certificate warnings), the OS is vulnerable now, some things like audio settings DO feel more annoying to use, and most importantly, the servers for Internet Checkers and Internet Backgammon are down for good

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and I should probably move to vmware soon, virtualbox's GPU emulation is terrible

fervent granite
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3d pinball still good tho AquaThumbsUp

brave field
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3d pinball yes

fervent granite
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FR

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the irony is I switched to virtualbox from hyper-v specifically because of that feature

brave field
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vbox's GPU emulation is just sad

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can't display the minimize/maximize animations in XP correctly

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don't even bother with Longhorn/Vista/7 Aero

fervent granite
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parallels works beautifully with aero

brave field
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Only thing that works okay is video decode

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probably never going to use parallels

fervent granite
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it is a mac-only software after all nvm it's not

brave field
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I've thought about Qubes or maybe actual KVM instead of just the KVM option in vbox

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also have thought about buying a gt 710, but they're way too expensive

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SR-IOV could've solved all of this but... market segmentation

fervent granite
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kvm might be the way to go honestly especially with actual hardware passthroughs

brave field
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probably sounds dumb, but I'm hoping there's some sort of hacky, but lightweight workaround to do it through WSL2 in the future

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else I'll definitely move to Kubuntu or POP after I get more storage and try it out

fervent granite
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nested virtualisation?

brave field
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whatever it takes to get usable GPU performance lol

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I guess it would be since WSL2 uses virtualization where WSL1 didn't

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Oh, I didn't try Windows Sandbox! That might not suck GPU-wise.

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Just sucks in not letting you edit the config easily, or save files, or install other OSes... 😦

fervent granite
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was going to test it out now that you mentioned it, but then I remember it isn't included with my version Sadge

brave field
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You're using LTSB/C?

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You're able to get both WSL and Sandbox on all other versions

fervent granite
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ltsc yeah, apparently it's part of the removed features

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wsl is included in windows features though which is strange

brave field
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hm

fervent granite
brave field
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Well, nice to have it there I guess

fervent granite
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still haven't gotten around to learning what I can do with wsl, there just isn't much I can do without guides :P

brave field
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Might be a little more familiar if you grab zsh

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I haven't used it too much but it seems to just straight up be a Linux install with everything but the ability to display stuff on its own

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Loads of apps work in it just fine

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Docker uses WSL2, if that's useful

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Can still use Python and the like

fervent granite
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no issues?

brave field
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I haven't had any at all the few times I've used it

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though, I also haven't done very much involving things that run any deeper than just running basic apps or using the terminal

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no idea how user permissions or getting Windows and the distro in WSL to communicate work, or any of that

fervent granite
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same actually, I just don't have a reason to use wsl especially when I've got actual distros at my disposal

brave field
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really seems more a solution for someone who could use either Windows or their favorite distro any day, but come across that one app that only works well on one or the other

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or you know

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github repo for an app that only runs on Windows but only builds on Linux, and has no actual compiled releases on the page

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my personal favorite

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Its less storage-heavy and time-consuming than setting up and configuring a whole VM, though, which is probably what its used mroe the most

fervent granite
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sounds like hell KEKW

brave field
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"heRe'S tHE lINk tO MY TooL, yOU nEeD dUAL BooT"

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I must ask you this, I've been annoyed about this for a month now

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How do people get domain names for so cheap?

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Can't even find any that keep their 99 cent price for more than 6 months, am I looking at the wrong websites?

fervent granite
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I've got no idea how those sites work KekLaugh

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but sometimes I when I go to dead links when looking for something I sometimes see domain names up for cheap

brave field
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can't even get poop-fart-horriblewebsite.dontgohere without the price increasing from 50 cents to $30 per year after 12 months

fervent granite
brave field
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Don't even get the 12 months of 99 cents, ouch

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but you see what I mean, prices are Pepega

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it sucks, agh

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$10/year is just too high

fervent granite
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isn't that $0.83/mo?

brave field
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it is

fervent granite
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I really didn't think you could buy a domain for a dollar tbh

jovial tide
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so rx 570 is cheaper and performs better than the 1650 but it consumes more power so i have to spend on a better PSU?

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is it worth it theN?

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peepoSuspThink wich GPU should i buy to play most of the new games in high quality????

jovial tide
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it depends on ur budget dude

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if you have enough money i woulkd suggest rtx 3060/3060ti or 3070 or even 3080

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3060 is a budget card

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if you are looking for a cheap one then go for the used last gen

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rtx 2060 or 2070 or 2080 used doesnt matter imo they perform the same if they are new or used

jovial tide
jovial tide
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or the whole pc

jovial tide
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then go for an rx 570 or gtx 1650 super rx 570 performs better than gtx 1650 at a lower price

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Gtx 1660 super Bad?

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nah not bad but it costs more

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for ur budget

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I think i will increase the budget coz its not my moneypepeLaughYou

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gpu prices are sky touching

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ohh lol

jovial tide
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or any 20 series gpu

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K

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ThanksšŸ‘

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if u can increase ur budget to something more than u can go with the 30 series

rapid lake
distant jasper
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does anyone know why my ps5 remote is not working for gta 5 but it worked a few weeks ago?

rapid lake
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No idea

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Look it up on youtube

unreal iron
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@distant jasper I wasn't aware ps5s came with a remote.

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This is the right channel, please do not spam the request elsewhere.

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Idk about a remote, but the controllers are having lots of issues. Put a ticket in with Sony maybe they can tell you why your remote has stopped working

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Might be related to their controller issues

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@distant jasper you mentioned elsewhere that sony did not help, this is a hardware issue, not a gta issue. You may have to find a different remote. Universal ones work pretty good

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In place of that maybe the controller will work over the remote. But those have been having a lot of issues too. Might find a tutorial on youtube for your specific issue. I'm not tech savvy

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Maybe find a way to resync them

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That's my best guess

kindred temple
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Cant wait for AMD compatible version (or 12th gen to not fucking suck in productivity)

kindred temple
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Its an asetek with a peltier strapped to it out of the box

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how can i NOT pick that shit up?

cold elbow
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Because it's shit

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And a waste of electricity

worthy schooner
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Has this been posted, or talked about yet?

kindred temple
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There’s a single thread CPU bottleneck while starting up GTA Online
Isnt it pretty well known that GTA loves IPC & Frequency over everything?

kindred temple
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Hmm

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Now i actually wonder, if we could do the pad mod and clear the IEC Guidelines using Anodized Copper Chassis

trim pumice
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Anyone have any experience with OneOdio A70 headphones monkaHmm

cold elbow
worthy schooner
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If T2 would increase their budgets, they could have competent programmers and servers.

jovial tide
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or do an amd apu build

jovial tide
rapid lake
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Still cheaper than 1080 Ti KEKW

jovial tide
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lol

jovial tide
jovial tide
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send me friend request in gta v online

LAKSHAYPLAYZYT

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Guys

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My gta v story is not save

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Can help please

full spindle
#

yoo

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WhO WANNA PLAY GTA WITH ME JST A PUBLIC SESSION HAVE SO MUCH FUN THERE

rapid lake
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sMh

iron pecanBOT
lone cypress
#

So if I turn off my Xbox while my game is downloading does it still download

brave field
#

So I'm using something that can return multiple values when you call status.raw. Status.raw looks like "description': {'text': 'wallet'}, 'players': {'max': 6, 'online': 0}, 'version': {'name': '1.16.3', 'protocol': 753}" I want to extract one or two specific values from status.raw, say the version. A guy on the github issues page says to do this if I wanted "players."

usersConnected = [ user['name'] for user in status.raw['players']['sample'] ]

What is this and how does it work?@polar girder

jovial tide
lone cypress
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Ok thanks papi

jovial tide
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np

brave field
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I haven't seen brackets used before, and the whole user["name"] part and such make 0 sense to me

strong saffron
#

That is called List Comprehension

polar girder
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first set of bracket just denotes a list []
user['name'] basically gets the name object from the user dictionary

user = {'name': 'zeromomentum'}
brave field
#

And what about the players and sample parts at the end?

polar girder
#

that would be something like this i guess

status.raw = {'players': [{'sample: 'xd'}, {'sample: 'xd'}]}
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im just going of my simple knowledge tbh because idk that well how list comprehension works

brave field
#

So if I wanted to get "1.16.3" from status.raw, ver = [version['name'] for version in status.raw['version']] would not work? I get a typeerror so I don't really know if the issue is with it being typed wrong or if I need to convert something

polar girder
strong saffron
#

The list part is the same as:

usersConnected = []
for user in status.raw['players']['sample']:
  usersConnected.append(user['name'])```
smoky shoal
#

oh wow this is cool

polar girder
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if you are using the link i sent above, you would just need to do json_object['version'] no for loop required

brave field
polar girder
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where json_object is the actual name of your variable

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one sec lemme install that lol

brave field
#

maybe I should move to the one you link, and learn basics of json stuff šŸ‘€

polar girder
#

did some testing on that, and to get version, you can just do server.status().version.name

brave field
#

Man I'm dumb kek

brave field
#

Thanks so much for the help

brave field
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s.description doesn't work with .text at the end šŸ¤”

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is .name something the creator defined or is that from the s.raw?

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Using either for description leads to an error saying there isn't an attribute for that, and using just s.description outputs {'text': 'Welcome'} rather than just the 'welcome' part

smoky shoal
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that's a dict you can get the text key by subscripting s.description['text']

brave field
#

wow

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perfect

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Thank you all @smoky shoal @polar girder @strong saffron ā¤ļø

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very, very much

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and list comprehension, going to research that

jovial tide
#

everyone that wants a gpu say goodbye to miners

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ps5s have been hacked for mining

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400 dollars for an unbeatable mining machine lol

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gpu market will be less crazy now most likely

brave field
#

Can't adjust power limit though, and you get banned permanently for softmods on PS5, no?

jovial tide
#

consoles sip power

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is much more appealing to a miner

brave field
#

Seems like it wouldn't be worth it if you have to run it so hot and then reselling is harder, even with the lower default tdp

jovial tide
#

xbox will probably be better

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since they have a much better cooler

brave field
#

right, and you can use dev mode to load up nbminer or teamredminer or whichever client you want to use without getting banned

jovial tide
#

with the ps5 they will probably remove the side panel

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yeah

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crazy how desperate miners are

brave field
#

Both would likely kinda suck compared to Ampere though, on desktop RDNA 2 mines poorly

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Its not just miners who are desperate for working product

jovial tide
#

the power consumption is a lot lower

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so that might make up for it

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and the base 3060ti retails for 400 usd but you cant get one at that price without a bot

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consoles are much easier to get

brave field
#

Just gotta wait for production to not be in a terrible spot

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Mining has been profitable every say since March 2014, and that's not likely to change

#

but 2019 has just started some nonsense

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COVID, then mass suicide threats at some fabs, GoFlo not doing 12nm or 7nm, US vs China production war, NAND price increase, MOSFET price increase, silicon shortage, fiberglass shortage

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The only ANYTHING that uses semiconductors that can actually stay in decent stock is iphones and Intel's network adapters and CPUs

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The first because they bought up all the space in tsmc and the second because they have their own fabs and less demand

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Car and medical industries are hurting Sadge

fervent granite
brave field
#

politicians, gamers, miners, scalpers, and auto repair shops are all at each other's throats right now when the issue is with production

jovial tide
#

iphones are pretty based

brave field
#

Apple's high profit margins let them do a lot, I like

fervent granite
#

Just their sheer size let's them get away with a lot of stuff

jovial tide
#

im selling the 2060 supers asap

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for 500

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i dont want them losing value if miners go to consoles

brave field
#

As much as I hate most of their practices, things like the M1 or having actual stock in a pandemic are legitimate perks those who invest in their ecosystem can benefit from and see

jovial tide
#

gotta get 2 3060tis to replace them lol

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family needs them for their pcs

brave field
#

Other companies wouldn't experiment with high-performance ARM unless they could sell it to datacenters and have guaranteed profit, and who has enough disposable income to buy out 75% of a fab pretty much everyone uses?

fervent granite
#

they could still do it imo, the software just has to match the hardware

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iirc arm-based windows's translation software runs like ass compared to rosetta 2

brave field
#

Large mining farms are likely going to move to CMP just like they did with Pascal P10X while smaller hobbyist ones will continue to use bots more than likely, since GPUs hold their value a bit better and are easier to integrate into mining setups they already have. The ebay average for a 2060S seems to be high 600s/low 700s after this past week though. People have really lost it, but more money for you kek @jovial tide

jovial tide
#

ps5 has the same hashrate as a 3080

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for 300 less

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and is much much cheaper to build a mining rig with since you wont need a mobo cpu and pcie risers

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and consumes less power

brave field
#

What coin is being mined here, Firo?

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Even the 6900XT makes a whole dollar less than a 3080 on Ethash each 24 hours

jovial tide
#

eth

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there are many reasons why it would be appealing

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lower power consumption lower price

tall dome
#

Mining boom is going down now

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why even try to mine more

fallow forge
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lower price

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except ps5's are 900bucks if you want one

jovial tide
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and 3060tis are 1200 your point

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these people bot them anyway

tall dome
#

meanwhile I have no issues getting consoles or gpus at MSRP

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it's just time

jovial tide
#

i mean i got a 3080 at msrp

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took me a while without a bot

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i mean its still half price and way more efficent

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ive carted multiple

tall dome
#

on top of heating issues

jovial tide
#

on best but

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didnt buy any

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got like 3 or 4 into checkout

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if you know the times they drop it isnt that hard tbh

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yeah but miners use bots a lot of the time so it doesnt even matter

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know a dude who has some of the rarest cards for a mining rig lol

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cards are harder to get than console anyway

tall dome
#

and using it to mine might overheat the console

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because it's not made to push that mucjh

jovial tide
#

amd is focusing on supplying consoles over ryzen and radeon

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the ps5 was just recently hacked to mine

tall dome
#

not suprising

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ps5 recently hack to mine doesn't mean it's good

brave field
#

Still very unlikely for people to legitimately try to move to PS5s for mining

jovial tide
#

eh people might not buy it for mining but imma wait and see what happens

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ive been wanting to get 2 3060tis for a while for family

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maybe this might make it easier since its miners favorite card

brave field
#

Still can't control power limit or lessen core voltages, still can't integrate it into your existing mining setup, still can't get an actual support hotline (what mining farms care about) or resell (what hobbyists care about)
Its conceptually interesting but nothing big will come out of it

jovial tide
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i wanna see where this goes

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people are mining with laptops too lol

brave field
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3060ti being the miner's favorite card means nothing imo, its also the gamer's favorite card, and the 3d artist's favorite card, just because its an actual decent price/performance product

tall dome
#

yes have fun burning your laptop

jovial tide
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LOL

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ive seen photos of mining farms with laptops

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wonder if one of the batteries cought on fire lol

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seems so unsafe and stupid

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ps5 actually sounds pretty cool but the laptop just sounds like an even bigger fire hazard

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Took me forever to get lol

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also got a 3060ti when it launched but it was the ventus 2x so i cancelled

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kinda regret it now

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planning on a custom loop when alder lake releases

brave field
#

I can't believe Nvidia's PR stunt with the base 3060 was so successful online

jovial tide
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yeah

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just creates more ewaste

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cancelled 3060ti

brave field
#

Entire discord servers and subreddits rejoiced but if any of the users had done more than just read article titles they'd know a driver limit does 0 in the end

jovial tide
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if a ps5 can be hacked a 3060 definitely can

brave field
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No reason to do any hack or workaround for the 3060

jovial tide
#

3060 is a pretty shit card imo

brave field
#

Ethash sucks on it, sure. Just use a different algorithm

jovial tide
#

suppost to be 1060 killer

brave field
#

Octopus? KawPow? Both work just fine

jovial tide
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but most models cost over 400 before scalpers

brave field
#

ETH isn't the only GPU-mineable coin and its strange that so many assume that it is

jovial tide
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probably since its so popular

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been hearing about ravencoin

brave field
#

Ravencoin is one of the more profitable on the 3060, yeah

jovial tide
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hope bitcoin falls below 10k but it will never happen

brave field
#

I guess I was just floored seeing how many people can list 25 or more reasons why cryptocurrency is "useless" and "helps nobody" but then still think bitcoin is mined on GPUs in current day and ETH moving to PoS is all it takes to magically restore stock in a global shortage

jovial tide
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crypto isnt really useless its just not implemented in much yet

brave field
#

Nvidia's announcement was just insanely well-received and its crazy how easily they targeted the exact right people

jovial tide
#

yeah basically trying to kill the second hand market and cause more ewasye

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better to let miners use gaming cards and sell them for cheap when crypto takes a dump

brave field
#

CMP won't become ewaste any time soon

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CMP is designed for large mining farms which DO purchase mining SKUs over gaming ones when available

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P10X never flooded the used market, I don't see why CMP would if its made for the same people but even more profitable. Many of the farms that bought P10X initially are still using them today

jovial tide
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idk i just wanna see how this all plays out with these drivers

jovial tide
#

Hey guys, my laptop is really loud

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What can I do to make it not loud

frigid echo
#

Well what kind of loud is it? Is it fan loud or spinning hard drive loud?

jovial tide
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Uhmmm like fan loud

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Thing sounds like it's a run away train

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Also it's creating lot of heat

frigid echo
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Couple of things you can do. Ensure the vents for the fan are clean, dust can make the fan work harder and hotter. Other is making sure there is enough space to allow fresh air into the vent.

jovial tide
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Ok I'll check the vents thing out later, but I think the CPU or something Is working in maximum over drive

frigid echo
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Ya you can check task manager for that

jovial tide
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Yea I have task manager open in performance

frigid echo
#

how's that graph looking?

jovial tide
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Utilization says it's around 71% to 85%

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And the graph goes up really high

frigid echo
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oof ya something is working hard.

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go to details and then click the CPU column at the top and it should sort by what is high CPU using for a task

jovial tide
#

Here's a pic

frigid echo
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whoaaaaaaa that uptime X_X

jovial tide
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Yea no my mom is gonna be the cause of my second laptop failing

frigid echo
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Something to know about windows. Something that can occur is being on for so long even if you use sleep mode or just close it. Can make the CPU go nutty unsure of what it should be doing and start dumping itself into using more CPU than it needs. Signs of this is performance is chugging too.

jovial tide
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Yea I've noticed that a lot

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My mom keeps playing music on it for like 7:30 am to around about 8 pm

frigid echo
#

there was a bug in start up that can even show up. Called the fast boot bug. That even if you tell the Computer to turn off it actually enters a hibernation / sleep mode instead. I had it happen to me was so weird. And your mom needs to just invest in a bluetooth speaker or a stereo system...

jovial tide
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Well she used her stereo

frigid echo
#

but ya, if that thing don't start getting rest. You can run into having bad sectors on your hard drive too if it's a mechanical drive

jovial tide
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Yea

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What else can I do to lesson the CPU usage

frigid echo
#

do to the details tab in task manager and see what is actually using CPU

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if you hit the CPU column it will order the list by CPU usage

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click the very top that actually says CPU

jovial tide
#

Jaysus my mom doesn't even care that she fucked up her own laptop

frigid echo
#

oh forgot you can go to processes tab too. I am so use to the Details because of how long I have worked with PC's

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I feel for ya.

jovial tide
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It says that the system idle process is like 54

frigid echo
#

What is right under that?

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System idle should always be highest so that's normal

jovial tide
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Something called MsMpEng.exe

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Also yea my mom fucked up my new laptop and she just says that as long as I can access the internet and do my school work it's fine

frigid echo
#

if you right click on it get that list of things you can select "Go to file location" to find out what it is

jovial tide
#

Also this laptop uses McAfee

frigid echo
#

ewww

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that is garbage

jovial tide
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Yea it is

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Im at the file location

frigid echo
#

doesn't even remove viruses it just puts them in "Quarantine" for another virus to eventually break them back out.

jovial tide
#

I wonder why she used it, how to delete McAfee, also she uses Bing

frigid echo
#

I use Comodo Internet Security Premium - it's free but a little more tech knowing heavy. Avast is a bit simpler

jovial tide
#

Ok so I'm at the file location

frigid echo
#

What is the folder name by chance?

jovial tide
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4.18.2101.9-0, that's the folder name

frigid echo
#

any familiar names in that line? Like Windows or such?

jovial tide
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This PC > ProgramData > Microsoft > Windows Defender > Platform > the numbers

frigid echo
#

ok just a sec so it's windows

jovial tide
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Yea

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On a lenovo laptop

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That up time tho

frigid echo
#

ok so looking at my sources here. Windows Defender thinks something is fishy going on and actively working. What you want to do is reboot the laptop and see if it happens again. If it does happen again you have a virus running around. OR worse if you do go with like Avast or such to rid yourself of a virus. And it still occurs than the windows install on that laptop is going to need to be reinstalled

jovial tide
#

Will the reboot erase everything on the laptop?

frigid echo
#

oh no. it just gives the laptop time to catch it's breath

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msmpeng.exe stands for Microsoft Malware Protection Engine.

jovial tide
#

But if it does erase everything, I'll be a real ghost

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Idiot mom doesn't even wanna transfer all her shit onto her new laptop and now I have to suffer

frigid echo
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nah that's not how laptops work. Turning them off is like how a game console works. it just comes back up when you turn it on again.

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the only thing you can lose is what tabs you have open or any programs that didn't save like in a game or in photoshop or such

jovial tide
#

Ohhh thank goodness

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So how do I reboot

frigid echo
#

Find that ol windows logo in the bottom left

jovial tide
#

Just restart the thing?

frigid echo
#

Ya, or shut down and give it a few minutes to cool down.

jovial tide
#

I'll give it sometime to breath and shut the laptop down

frigid echo
#

the wise thing that poor thing has been running for 2 weeks straight

jovial tide
#

Well not straight, after my mom is finished with her work she shuts it down

frigid echo
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no she hasn't

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or the uptime wouldn't be that long

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the uptime does not lie /nod

jovial tide
#

She works from like 7:30 am to around about 8 pm

frigid echo
#

the uptime does not reset till it actually is restarted or shut down

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closing the laptop lid does not shut it down or restart it

jovial tide
#

Wait, but Im sure I switched it off yesterday afternoon

frigid echo
#

Then you may have the fast boot bug.

jovial tide
#

Well shit

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Hmm how do I remove it then

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Since it's my laptop now I don't want it to break

frigid echo
#

ok it's not so bad to disable it

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ckicj the windows button and type in the search area control panel

jovial tide
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Ohhh it's off

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Giving it some space

frigid echo
#

oh lol PM me and I'll send you a visual guide on how to disable it

jovial tide
#

Ok thx

jovial tide
#

Can i play gta online with 4gb or i need 8gb ram

jovial tide
#

Google said that

jovial tide
#

Hahahahaha I just uninstalled McAfee, fuck that antivirus software

jovial tide
#

I use up to 16 gb in online

jovial tide
#

yall think i should get ml120s or ll120s

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i need to match my build so no noctuas/arctic p14s

kindred temple
#

I would get the ML120

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Its a tad newer, and support icue

jovial tide
#

ml120s are facing down anyway so the rgb doesnt matter as much

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also they run faster quieter and cheaper

dim shell
brave field
#

I hope the 3050 ti is decent value if it comes out

#

2060 equivalent at $250 or lower would be great

jovial tide
#

Ohh boy that new laptop my mom has isn't gonna be working well in the near future

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hm

#

Also, @brave field , those ear buds you use for cleaning your ears or clean toothbrush or cotton wool, which is better for clearing out the dust in a PC/laptop

brave field
#

This a question? I lack context otherwise

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I wouldn't use wool/cotton ever

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they get stuck on the edges of heatsinks

jovial tide
#

True

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You see some dust in there right?

brave field
#

The image isn't super clear but I think so, yeah

jovial tide
#

Mm

brave field
#

compressed air >>>>

#

Should be able to get a 3can pack for $7 or so

pliant gazelle
#

Now their selling air? Damn.

jovial tide
brave field
#

Well out of those three options, I'd take the toothbrush, even though its a bit expensive and wasteful compared to something like a super cheap paintbrush or something designed for dust

jovial tide
#

So the toothbrush, got it

brave field
#

also that taskmanager graph you sent looks normal

jovial tide
#

And the up time?

brave field
#

uptime seems normal too

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Windows 10 uptime is weird because fast startup is enabled by default, which makes shutdown work like hibernate instead of actually fully stopping windows

jovial tide
#

How is it normal, my fans are basically louder than a god damn train

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I can't do my school work without hearing loud fans

brave field
#

Your fan noise depends on component temperature or your fan curve, nothing task manager will show

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HWiNFO64 is useful if you want to check which of those two it is

jovial tide
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Well it does get hot around the space bar section

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I could maybe even burn paper

brave field
#

grab hwinfo and see if the CPU/GPU temps are in a good spot

jovial tide
#

Ok I'll do that later when my parents are asleep so that I can clean the damn thing, I'll ping you the details

jovial tide
#

Damn, where's that homework folder, if you know what I mean

jovial tide
#

ML120S GO IN STOCK

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THAT ARE NOT IN A BUNDLE

arctic yarrow
#

Call me boring, but I prefer my PC to not have RGBs all over it. Don't get me wrong, I prefer my pc to look nice, but I focus more on what hardware I stick in it.

#

Case in point

fervent granite
#

*pun intended

ashen ridge
arctic yarrow
ashen ridge
arctic yarrow
#

I guess cable management outside (the usb cables, ethernet, power, etc) could do with some management.

ashen ridge
#

perhaps

jovial tide
#

if you know drop times you can get one easily

arctic yarrow
jovial tide
#

2070s sell for over regular price

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oh

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ok

arctic yarrow
#

I'd legit get the same performance as my 2070s.

jovial tide
#

i mean

#

you can always upgrade cpu šŸ™‚

arctic yarrow
#

And I plan on using this PC for 3 or so more years before upgrading

arctic yarrow
jovial tide
#

you can sell a 2070 super for like 600

jovial tide
arctic yarrow
#

Even if I change the bios to accept an 8700k, it's not worth the trouble.

#

Besides, I can play pretty much any title at high FPS for a while right now, so I'll wait for a couple years then build another PC.

jovial tide
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7700k isnt as big of a bottleneck as you think

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i mean why not get a free upgrade lol

#

3070 fe and sell 2070s

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and if you play above 1080p the difference is small

#

good idea to take advantage of gpu market rn and sell your old card for a good price

#

sold a basically mined to death rx 580 for 200 bucks

arctic yarrow
#

I still don't want to expend the effort right now while I'm focusing on school. Besides, this PC will still keep me going for several years down the line.

fervent granite
jovial tide
#

Thats fair

#

The shortage will probably last until 2022 so youll have some time to find one lol

jovial tide
#

Does anyone have an ideia why gta online started having low gpu usage?

#

I have a ryzen 5 3600 and an rx 5600xt

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i used to get 80+ fps

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now i struggle to mantain 60

jovial tide
#

Just finished this beauty

frigid echo
#

what is it?

jovial tide
#

A mini home server

jovial tide
#

I cant get over 90 with a 3080 in a full lobby

jovial tide
jovial tide
#

but i used to have better performance

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it suddenly went to shit

fervent granite
#

you think it's a software thing?

jovial tide
#

ye

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gpu usage barely goes above 50%

#

quite annoying

#

having no msaa or 8x yields the same performance

#

xd

nova steppe
#

yeah, I get prob a 5-10 frame difference between Maxed settings and "Default". I hardly get over 55 fps now

brave field
#

singlecore dependency is really strong

nova steppe
#

i mean, with tuned GFX settings and in a race, i would hover around 85-90. Over 100 if it was in the sky

jovial tide
#

oh thats just how gta runs man

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any other game ill max out my gpu to 100 percent

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like rdr2

brave field
#

haven't played the latest version but things have been okay-ish for me

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80-90 average but drops to mid-40s in full sessions sucks

#

Wonder how much is DX11 overhead and how much is game itself, online is already cut down vs story mode and still performs worse

jovial tide
#

online puts a heavier load on the cpu

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so most of the time you will be cpu bottlenecked

brave field
#

right

#

but is it draw calls or actual ingame function that's the biggest issue?

jovial tide
#

i think its that in an online session you have to have every single player rendered in i think

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and because of that the more players will decrease the fps

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especially on the weak ass jaguar cores of the last gen consoles

fallow forge
#

@brave field quick question, for example when im playing Cod cold war, my gpu usage is <5%, and cpu usage >80%

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Does that mean my gpu is being bottlenecked?

brave field
#

yes

fallow forge
#

damnit

#

what would be a good cpu "match" for a 2070s

#

i got a i7 7700k now

#

might have to get a new mobo too, mine if pretty basic iirc

brave field
#

7700k and 2070 work together fine usually

#

I think cold war specifically is just really good at spreading across multiple threads

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If you're having issues from your GPU idling when you play, try raising settings some

#

For your upgrade question, maybe wait for Rocket Lake-S

fallow forge
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settings are all the way up

brave field
#

If you're not playing at 1080p or 720p, your GPU usage should be higher than 5% at max settings

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7700k should hold things back THAT much, its still a very good CPU for games

fallow forge
#

1080p

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with everything on ultra including raytracing im getting around 60-70 fps and 6% gpu usage

jovial tide
#

skylake and newer are all good for games still in 2021

brave field
#

Don't know anything about how cold war runs but that usage still seems VERY low, even for a 2070S at 1080p

#

Do other games perform strangely?

jovial tide
#

newer games are now becoming more multithreaded

#

you definitely need a cpu upgrade

fallow forge
#

should it not run at higher fps with higher gpu usage? or does it not work like that

jovial tide
#

r5 5600x would be a good pick

fallow forge
#

i might change to amd

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i need a new mobo anyway

jovial tide
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a budget b550 and a 5600x would be good

brave field
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I doubt cold war is looking for >8 CPU threads, but a CPU upgrade never hurts

jovial tide
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dont have to spend a lot now to get good performance

fallow forge
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i got a z170a gaming m5

brave field
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I'd still wait for Intel 11th gen at the end of this month to be sure

fallow forge
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pretty outdated board i think

brave field
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Sky/kabylake board, its fine. 2017 isn't outdated.

jovial tide
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isnt the 11400 faster than 10900k ive heard

brave field
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rumor says 11th gen's IPC uplift is enough to make it a wee bit faster than Zen3

jovial tide
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i mean 5600x is still pretty good

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and probably runs a lot cooler than an intel chip

brave field
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Wait and see if 11400/f if better for the price, and then choose that + b560 or 5600x + b550

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If 11400 is priced how the 10400 is now, 5600x is just DOA

jovial tide
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6 cores will be good for the next couple of years

fallow forge
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its sad, i got this 7700k november 2018 for i think 600 bucks

jovial tide
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holy shit

brave field
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ouch

jovial tide
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dude the 9900k was out by then

brave field
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buying last gen parts in new condition hurts

fallow forge
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yes which was 1000+ here back then

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i had a budget

brave field
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8700k had come out a month before, what price was it?

fallow forge
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idk

brave field
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In the US and Canada, it launched cheaper than the 7700k

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ah

fallow forge
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i was gonna get a 7800k i think

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but someone told me it had 1151v2 and that wouldnt fit on my board

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hmmmm

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9900k v2.0 is 400 bucks here

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might just check that out

brave field
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would not

jovial tide
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at least get a 10th gen chip

brave field
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How much is a 10700k?

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Older generation stuff in new condition is never worth it

fallow forge
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oh

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10700k is 389

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but then id need a new mobo aswel

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cuz its 1200 socket

brave field
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You'll need a new mobo for any CPU upgrade from a 7700k

fallow forge
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9900k is 1151 too right?

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or is it a newer version

jovial tide
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doesnt work

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you need a 3 series board for 8th and 9th gen

brave field
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Its for 1151v2/3xx chipsets

fallow forge
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ah

brave field
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really, wait for 11th gen this month, I smell $150 11400 on the horizon

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b560 prices are fine as well if you don't care about losing CPU OC

fallow forge
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oh yeah im not an impulse buyer when it comes to pc parts

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aside from the initial purchase lol

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is the 11th gen 1200 or 1151v2

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or unknown

brave field
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It uses LGA 1200

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12th gen will be on a new socket

fallow forge
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ah

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kinda looking towards 200 bucks for the new mobo it seems

jovial tide
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i would get a b450m pro4 and a 5600x

fallow forge
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need those 3 m.2 slots

jovial tide
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tbh

brave field
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need 3 m.2, hmm

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Would a PCIe add-in not provide enough bandwidth for you?

fallow forge
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well yeah thats an option too

brave field
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If all three are NVMe drives, boards for that are going to cost a fortune, yeah

fallow forge
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but id rather do it without

fallow forge
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that aint it cheif

jovial tide
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why

fallow forge
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looks god aweful

jovial tide
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b450f strix?

brave field
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The issue is with the 5600x imo

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The thing is $300 the few times it is in stock

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That $150 over the 10400f and $100 over the 3060 isn't worth it

fallow forge
brave field
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Its a big performance improvement but not big enough for $100-150 imo

fallow forge
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the b450f looks good

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thats the b450m pro4

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aint letting that near my pc

jovial tide
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that doesnt look that bad tbh

fallow forge
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does to me, but eh

jovial tide
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at least the pcb isnt brown

fallow forge
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current one looks nice

jovial tide
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how mine looks like lol

fervent granite
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this one looks way better imo

jovial tide
fallow forge
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welp guess im gonna wait some time for the 11th gen

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im also sad i upgraded to a 2070s last year for 650

jovial tide
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sell it

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you can sell it for close to what you paid now

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take advantage of it

fallow forge
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and have no gpu

jovial tide
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itll be worth it

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try going for a 3080 founders edition

fallow forge
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i game 8-10 hrs a day

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no gpu aint it

jovial tide
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buy a gpu then sell your old one

nova steppe
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these takes, man... weirdleave

fallow forge
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nah im good

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not gonna struggle and to get a new card so i can sell my old one

jovial tide
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k

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i did that and got a 3080 lol

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selling some gpus from my familys pcs and buying them 3060tis

fallow forge
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even If i were to do that id go for a 3070

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dont feel like paying 1000+ for a new gpu when i upgraded last year

jovial tide
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thats fair

fallow forge
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god even a good brand 3070 is 900

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thought it was way cheaper

jovial tide
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in usa the 3060ti and 3080 are the best values from what ive seen

brave field
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gotta get them as soon as they restock, possible but you do have to dedicate and spend time on it

jovial tide
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3070 doesnt justify the price increase tbh

fallow forge
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yeah seems like it

jovial tide
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and 3090 is 1500 bucks lol

fallow forge
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i thought the 3070 was gonn abe like 500

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900 for a 3070 or 1000-1100 for a 3080

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in that case i would go for a 3080

brave field
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$500 is common, the difficult part is having the patience to get it at that price

jovial tide
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best buy drops once every couple weeks

brave field
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most people are impatient and go straight to ebay, where $500 is near impossible

jovial tide
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if you dont give in canada or us you are out of luck

fallow forge
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cheapest one it 629 here but not even available for pre order

jovial tide
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i got a 3080 for 700 usd

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i didnt give in to scalpers and got it for msrp

fallow forge
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Or

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i just buy a new pc with a 3070 in it

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kek

jovial tide
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not even a bad idea lol

fallow forge
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3k for a ryzen 9 5900x /3070/ 1tb ssd 4tb hdd 32gb

brave field
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if you can get a prebuilt, heh

jovial tide
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thats a weird combo

brave field
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anything with "RTX" in the name can sell for $1000 on ebay

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Yes, including the 2060

fallow forge
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these are actually available

jovial tide
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i got 2 cards already

fallow forge
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or this

jovial tide
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what continent do you live in

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north america europe etc

fallow forge
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1699 for a ryzen 7 3700x/16gb ram/3070/1tb hdd

brave field
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wack

fallow forge
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cheapest pre built they got with a 3070

jovial tide
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does it not have an ssd

fallow forge
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jesus wtf is this monstrocity