I like how people think Nvidia are heroes for making anti-mining 3060
#tech-coding-math
polar girder
ayy gg
next step is to install Linux From Scratch :kekw:
fervent granite
No pls 
dapper saffron
everytime I try to clean it the mouse family tries to bite me, I think they life in the storage bay
stone harbor
everytime I try to clean it the mouse family tries to bite me, I think they life...
the what
celest obsidian
tame current
Hi, which graphics card is better than the NVIDIA GTX 970 | AMD Radeon RX 590 graphics cards with only small to medium price gap?
empty escarp
everytime I try to clean it the mouse family tries to bite me, I think they life...
LMFAO
Just fill up the tub with soap and water and let that thing soak
jovial tide
Hi, which graphics card is better than the NVIDIA GTX 970 | AMD Radeon RX 590 gr...
Normally i would’ve said the 1660 but with the new china tariffs the gpu prices are insane
tame current
Normally i would’ve said the 1660 but with the new china tariffs the gpu prices ...
What 1660? Is that NVIDIA or Radeo?
brave field
590>970 generally and 1660 isn't really a big enough step up
night timber
small question, how do I give default arguments for optional keyword arguments in python?
for example
def func(item_pos, **keywords)
What if I want to add an argument to keywords 'type' = 'item' as a default argument for type if the user decides to use keywords
brave field
would it be something like
def func(item_pos, thewordyouwant=None)
And then you use an if statement to test for if the variable is none, and if so, ignore whatever the argument would be used for, and otherwise, use what was entered?
night timber
no, because I want that default argument to only be assigned if the user uses keywords, otherwise it won't
oh wait, I think I can refactor the function to use something else
sorry about the question lol, it's my stupid coding
night timber
would it be something like
```PYTHON
def func(item_pos, thewordyouwant=None)
``...
I mean ye I can do that but then the function would get unnecessarily complex, I'll refactor it to work in a different, simpler, more efficient way
fervent granite
I feel like I'm shopping for a new desktop environment 
brave field
Can you use KDE on arch?
fervent granite
kde plasma is officially supported, kde 1 is unofficially supported
jovial tide
How good is an average of 986.9 kB/s
brave field
Can someone with any sort of legal background or understanding translate this? https://www.pcgamer.com/apple-subpoenas-valve-as-part-of-its-legal-battle-with-epic-valve-fights-back/
https://www.engadget.com/apple-denied-valve-data-in-epic-games-lawsuit-155147913.html
Ultimately, what results from Valve not giving Apple this data? Is their argument against Epic weaker?
arctic yarrow
Kinda bullshit how long it takes to download and install MATLab. Going on my second hour waiting on it to finish and it's 22% done.
brave field
@jovial tide that internet speed, a drive speed, something else?
jovial tide
<@456226577798135808> that internet speed, a drive speed, something else?
Downloading a game
arctic yarrow
How good is an average of 986.9 kB/s
Pretty slow. Where are you downloading it from and what's your advertised internet speed?
brave field
Downloading a game relies on internet, ram, and drive speed, that's very slow
jovial tide
Pretty slow. Where are you downloading it from and what's your advertised intern...
My home internet
Thought so
My WiFi is shit
brave field
Could be on the distributor's end too though
arctic yarrow
My home internet
I mean are you downloading it from origin, steam, uplay, epic, an MMO launcher?
jovial tide
Uplay
Also it has that exact speed also for epic, steam and a large world file or something from opera gx
arctic yarrow
Hmm, what's your advertised net speed?
jovial tide
Don't know
arctic yarrow
What's your ISP?
jovial tide
Don't know what that is
arctic yarrow
Internet Service Provider. The company you get your internet from.
jovial tide
Mom bought the WiFi things so don't know
arctic yarrow
I think speedtest.net can tell you your ISP
right before you click go it tells you your ISP on the bottom left.
jovial tide
Yea I'm not gonna test my speed now
Cause it's strongest at night when my mom isn't working
arctic yarrow
Alright, one thing you can try to do if the bottleneck is happening on your wifi specifically is check for firmware updates for your router.
jovial tide
I just asked if my WiFi was bad, not tech support
arctic yarrow
Sorry, I work in (basic) IT so my mind immediately goes to "fix the problem" whenever I see a possible problem.
jovial tide
Ohh
arctic yarrow
Yes, your wifi is slow, but it also depends on your advertised speed.
jovial tide
And time of day
arctic yarrow
True. If you're on fixed wireless or DSL your speeds can vary based on time of day if your ISP oversubscribed in your area.
nova steppe
it shouldn't depend that heavily on time of day
arctic yarrow
Can also happen on cable, but not as much
jovial tide
it shouldn't depend *that* heavily on time of day
For me it does
Cause my mom's work takes up a whole lot
nova steppe
that's just bandwidth
arctic yarrow
True that, your speeds can also vary based on bandwidth usage on your LAN.
fervent granite
Can someone with any sort of legal background or understanding translate this? https://www.pcgamer.com/apple-subpoenas-valve-as-part-of-its-legal-battle-with-epic-valve-fights-back/
https://www.engadget.com/apple-denied-valve-data-in-epic-games-lawsuit-155147913.html
Ultimately, what results from Valve not giving Apple this data? Is their argument against Epic weaker?
Imo it doesn’t seem like it would make much of a difference
arctic yarrow
I'll do a quick calculation of how long it will take to finish downloading it on your current speed.
jovial tide
Uplay says 12 to 13 hours
nova steppe
jovial tide
I'll do a quick calculation of how long it will take to finish downloading it on...
The devision Is at 4.73 GB of of 50.01 GB right now
Nvm it's now 4.79 GB
Actually 4.80
arctic yarrow
assuming you're at 1 megabit/s, and you have 45.5 gigabytes of data remaining, it will take 101.111 hours to complete your download assuming your speed remains constant.
jovial tide
And keeps going
brave field
@fervent granite ah, thanks. Seems so weird a case overall. I guess it makes sense that Valve wouldn't help though.
arctic yarrow
Is uplay measuring in bits or bytes?
jovial tide
Idk it only says MB/s and kB/s
fervent granite
Yeah because here’s the thing, apple basically already has it in the bag with its policy that’s been there forever
arctic yarrow
Ok, so it's measuring in bytes
so I was off in my calculations
It will take 12.6 hours to complete your download
jovial tide
Smh
arctic yarrow
That's assuming a constant speed.
jovial tide
Maybe even longer because I have to take like long hour breaks in between
fervent granite
From what I’ve read, apple wanted to counter epic’s argument about not being competition, but because valve didn’t hand it over it doesn’t make sense that this would “make or break” the case
brave field
The whole move just seems dumb to me
arctic yarrow
Good god MATLab's installer is such garbage. I've been waiting on it to download and install for 2 hours now.
brave field
Epic wants online storefronts to take lower cuts and also wants to be able to circumvent them on mobile stores. Apple doesn't, so they ask a company not even in the mobile storefront field for help despite them antagonizing them previously.
all of it seems weird
fervent granite
Maybe Apple is trying to set an example?
brave field
And they expected Valve to fork over loads of data about PC game sales to prove... something?
Isn't where that cut goes relevant as well?
fervent granite
I guess apple figured that steam’s transaction system was similar to apple’s (in that all payments had to go through steam), so it was a good enough comparison
brave field
you get coding assignments?
night timber
yes, the instructor/teacher gives me assignments
my mother signed me up for a programming course
brave field
All of my professors so far have been "This course is about the science of math that can be computed, not computers. Its just another calculus course, but with no calculator allowed."
oh niice
night timber
and it's freaking useless, he just gives us assignments and makes us figure out on our own, no tutoring, no nothing, he just introduces us to concepts and lets us figure out the assignments by googling stuff and teaching ourselves
it's really pointless
honestly sounds like a way you'd force someone to learn how to code without actual tutoring lol
and it's completely online btw, we don't go to an actual coding bootcamp, it's on zoom
arctic yarrow
Hey I've got a weird bug plaguing me for a while. I run a valheim server off my sdd on my server machine, but every couple days the files are unexpectedly deleted and force me to reinstall. Any ideas on how to fix?
I'm gonna try running it on my ramdrive for now and see if the same issue occurs. If it doesn't occur, should I reformat the SSD?
brave field
Wasn't defender being a pain before?
arctic yarrow
Ya it was, but I completely disabled it.
brave field
It seems to ignore exceptions sometimes when its definitions update
o
Changing storage sounds like a plan but it sadly doesn't really clear up if its a hardware or a software problem
arctic yarrow
Actually, fuck it. I'll keep it up on the ramdrive and keep a backup on my primary drive.
brave field
inb4 ValheimServerDeleter.bat in startup folder somehow
arctic yarrow
Luckly the world files are stored on the primary drive, so no progress was deleted.
Plus it'll probably work better on the ramdrive
arctic yarrow
Oh my fucking god. Windows firewall blocked the valheim server's traffic. STOP FUCKING BABYSITTING MY SHIT M$, I KNOW WHAT THE FUCK I'M DOING.
Good god, I should install linux or some shit, because M$ is being an overbearing nazi.
near seal
arctic yarrow
WTF, the firewall OVERRODE my fucking exclusion.
Fucking finally
I had to turn the entire fucking firewall off
vapid grove
Is there a log or anything of connecting/disconnecting USB devices? I've been hearing the new device connect/disconnect sound play pretty regularly but have not noticed any devices quit functioning.
arctic yarrow
Is there a log or anything of connecting/disconnecting USB devices? I've been he...
Probably in "Event Viewer".
brave field
I had no luck with event viewer previously for detecting non-storage USB devices connecting or disconnecting. There's a really small and easy tool called USBLogView that may help if you don't have luck with Event Viewer either
vapid grove
Only event when I heard the device connected sound. Happened when launching Black Desert Online 
Could have been this I suppose.
arctic yarrow
Not related to usb tho, looks like that's for the windows store
probably under system in windows logs?
vapid grove
Only thing in system is the same "Background Intelligent Transfer Service" and a DNS resolution time out
arctic yarrow
gotcha
queen crescent
is there a way for discord to not detect other gaems, i wanna play gta but not lose my streak
queen crescent
that will work ??
light totem
probably
queen crescent
i have overlay hidden for most my games
yet it still detects them
🤔 we need some other way
light totem
hmm
trim pumice
Anyone recommend a pair of headphones, just for listening to music and watching videos
Preferably wired and wireless, so far got these but not sure 
https://www.amazon.co.uk/OneOdio-Bluetooth-Over-Ear-Headphones/dp/B0828S1TPM/ref=psdc_4085761_t1_B07MQSFW9R
light totem
2 bar data
i mean
what else do you expect from it
storm wraith
2 bars ain’t even bad
one of my friends got Verizon, with 2 bars, he gets around 50
arctic yarrow
Bro wtf, you using a really shitty WISP or something?
storm wraith
What’s WISP?
arctic yarrow
Wireless Internet Service Provider
storm wraith
I mean, I got t mobile
light totem
arctic yarrow
light totem
well the only assumption i have is either because you are download something on ur phone rn
or your in a shitty location
storm wraith
military base, but like I said, I have friends here with the same amount bars
but way better connection
light totem
hmm
arctic yarrow
Time to restart your device
storm wraith
Done that multiple times
jovial tide
arctic yarrow
https://i.imgur.com/k6kQjik.png
Hey! That's the speed some of my workplace's customers has.
nova steppe
arctic yarrow
Nb4 they scream at me because they don't get the full gig speeds.
nova steppe
the pic was just a bait
arctic yarrow
Ahh, gotcha
I think I managed to solve my valheim server issue, but if M$ deletes my files again I'm switching my server to linux.
neat marlin
this is a bit gta related, but i was diving through the rpf's and it looks like there was a cut police computer in there
although it's empty, so it was most likely either scrapped in development and all the files inside the ytd were just deleted, or it was just a placeholder
and probably discovered before but there were cut icons from the ifruit cell
fervent granite
Looks like the kind of icons you’d find on those toy cell phones
old shell
Pls sadadadsawdsawdsawdaswdsawdsadswasdwasaadasawdawdsa
brave field
perfect
crimson sentinel
I love that game too
fervent granite
should've been best game of 2020 imo
brave field
This is how I'll kill Mee6
It can send copypastas and its status always shows up wrong
I now have two weeks of experience in Python. Google better be hiring me by tomorrow
fervent granite
You joining Project Zero?
brave field
Not just joining, I will own it!
Just as soon as I can get my github.io page to work
jovial tide
and probably discovered before but there were cut icons from the ifruit cell
interesting.
cold elbow
hidden pebble
stone harbor
is there a huge difference between intel i5 and i7
stone harbor
im thinking about buying a pc with 3070 and intel i5
but i can alspo buy it with i7 for $500 more
charred sigil
@stone harbor It depends on the games you want to play i can kinda play gta on my 10yr old i5 but if you want games like rust you need an i7 look at the games you want to play look at the min requiremejts and if the games need an i7 get the i7 if they dont get the i5
stone harbor
but a brand new i5 should work for everything right?
charred sigil
maybe but it might not ork for n=brand new Games
stone harbor
because i dont think the price is worth it
stone harbor
yeah
stone harbor
but the computer with an i5 costs $1509
stone harbor
acer
charred sigil
i could probaly find an i7 for 1.5k
stone harbor
with the i7 it costs 2122
stone harbor
it also has 16 gb ram, 1024 ssd and rtx 2070
stone harbor
thats 2070 tho
charred sigil
yes but its alot better of a deal
stone harbor
also shipping and import fees are 577 alone
stone harbor
the pc im buying is from a norwegian store
charred sigil
ahhhh
stone harbor
and they can deliver it to me for free
charred sigil
leme try somthing
goto newegg.com they have lots of good deals
if the shipping is BS get the i7 as itl be able to play games better\
stone harbor
the problem is that the import tolls are really high here
so with import tolls it costs 2395
charred sigil
yeah your bet bet is to get the i7 your looking at
as you ont find a better del from me with that shipping fees
stone harbor
yeah
cold elbow
U should specify which i5 and i7 u talking about.
cold elbow
The 10700 has higher boost speed and has hyperthreading
For a 3070 i would go for the i7 because it's more future proof and perform better not to mention if u plan on doing anything else while gaming or just rendering
But if u ask me which cpu to buy as in bang for the buck then it's definitely ryzen 3600 or 5600
Even if intel is cheaper keep in mind you need a Z board to use your memory full speed like a 3600 module then u need a k cpu to overclock the cpu and u need a good cooler to get all the performance of the i7
on amd with any board even a b350 that goes for 60 bucks u can use the highest ram speed and overclock.
stone harbor
The 10700 has higher boost speed and has hyperthreading
For a 3070 i would go f...
ok
i understand about half of that
brave field
mmh, 10400F is still a better deal than a 3600 right now
$50 could be 512gb extra of SSD
light sinew
I don’t think ill be touching intel for a while
And cheaping out on a processor isn’t worth it, it’s cheaper to wait even weeks or months to get that extra storage than it is regretting getting the i5
jovial tide
Can i buy a cracked xbox one under 100$
graceful flax
My 1080
Ordered a replacement fan
Is there any way to not have this squeeky sound while waiting for spare parts?
Its making my skin crawl
graceful flax
And just have two?
stone harbor
just make sure to not overheat it
stone harbor
yeah 2
graceful flax
Its the c fan that sucks
stone harbor
take out the squeaky one while you wait for the new one
stone harbor
yeah thats fine
stone harbor
why is there a plant inside it
cold elbow
Wtf is that???
vapid island
Wtf is that???
my pc the lighting screws with my camera
cold elbow
At least try to hide the strips somewhere
stone harbor
vapid island
At least try to hide the strips somewhere
they are mostly hidden its just the way i took the photo
See
the glare is pretty bad too
strange jewel
Anyone know how to switch from C drive to D drive?
fervent granite
@strange jewel For…?
strange jewel
Games, i don't have enough storage on the C drive
fervent granite
Steam?
strange jewel
Epic games
fervent granite
You could try using steam mover: https://www.traynier.com/software/steammover
strange jewel
I'll give it a try
fervent granite
If that doesn’t work, epic has an article on this: https://www.epicgames.com/help/en-US/epic-games-store-c73/launcher-support-c82/how-to-move-an-installed-game-from-the-epic-games-launcher-to-another-directory-on-your-computer-a7189
strange jewel
Also, all my games be freezing and unfreezing, someone told me to run a temperature check on my gpu and cpu, which software would i use for that?
fervent granite
I wouldn’t know, I use a Mac
graceful flax
Mac 💩
strange jewel
?
arctic yarrow
Also, all my games be freezing and unfreezing, someone told me to run a temperat...
HWmonitor
strange jewel
Oh okay
strange jewel
Thanks
arctic yarrow
Keep in mind, to get the most accurate reading you need it showing up on a secondary monitor
Otherwise temps will drop when you move your game to the background
strange jewel
I do have a second monitor but i dont have a second slot for an HDMI cable which is unfortunate
arctic yarrow
There's passive HDMI to DVI or HDMI to DisplayPort adapters.
strange jewel
Oh really?
brave field
HWiNFO>>>>>
Has HWMonitor even been updated since 2003?
It can display the names of newer processors but it doesn't seem to ever be accurate for anything newer than a Pentium 4
strange jewel
Can you explain that to me as if i were 10 years old because i don't understand anything
fervent granite
He’s just saying that the processor names probably won’t be named correctly for newer one’s like Ryzens
brave field
HWiNFO64->Sensors Only-> read the "CPU [#0] (tcl/tdie)" temperatures and then do the same for the one labelled with "GPU [0]"
For HWMonitor, I think you just scroll around until you see CPU and GPU sections
The maximum and current values matter, they should be in degrees C
What maximum is considered safe depends on the exact CPU and GPU you have but the programs lists it if you don't know
fervent granite
What are your max temps for your setup?
brave field
Haven't checked in a while but around 58C on the CPU and 78C on the GPU under synthetic loads, much cooler than any throttling or shutdown temps
And this is in the H500, a case not known for good intake
But I normally run my GPU at 90% to avoid the fans spinning up
fervent granite
I don't like letting my cpu get over 85° C
But what I don't get is, I can run a vm, discord, watch a youtube video and even have a few office programs open with reasonable temps
But when I fire up minecraft without any programs open my temps rise to like 70 C 
brave field
My macbook minecraft experiences have been poor as well
Youtube and Discord are GPU-accelerated by default
But Minecraft does pretty much everything on the one thread it likes
solar horizon
laughs in trying to run Post Scriptum in an i5 3470
brave field
Would be super cool if there was a very performant and officially-supported rewrite of Minecraft
fervent granite
People won't accept bedorck though :/
brave field
One that plays like the actual game and is under the rules of the original game
namely no DRM, no IAPs
Bugrock doesn't play the same and breaks those last two
Notch legally promised Java buyers no Mojang-supported paid content other than the game itself
fervent granite
Isn't the store content made up of content the community submits though?
brave field
Microsoft advertises for creators who make their items paid
The only servers you can access on the console editions or through the featured servers list are ones Microsoft has partnered with to ensure there's paywalling all over
Free content gets drowned out and rots away at the furthest, darkest corners of the store
fervent granite
The only servers you can access on the console editions or through the featured ...
I fucking hate that this is a thing, if it's in the mobile version (which is literally the same as the console version) there's no reason it should be removed for consoles
brave field
shafting console users is what Bugrock is all about
The game is cheaper, has more control options, more server options, and even runs better on Android, plus there's a tiny bit of actual modding
Console Bugrock is a disgrace coming from the 4J console versions and its really sad
fervent granite
It's like they don't even care at this point, the game itself runs fine on consoles when it loads, but outside of that it's a buggy mess
brave field
Oh yeah, didn't mention free skins or maps
No paying Microsoft for the xbox file browser app
fervent granite
I still have the original even though it doesn't work anymore 
brave field
doesn't work now?
I thought it just had no updates and they'd beg you to use the new one?
fervent granite
There's a new one? It doesn't even show up in my updates, when I try to launch it all it tells me is it's no longer supported
brave field
Owning the 4J versions should give you a license for Bugrock for free
The last update for 4J supposedly just adds a main menu button to install Bugrock from what I hear
Can't say from experience since I've only purchased 360 version for 4j
fervent granite
Ah you mean minecraft, my bad I thought you were talking about the file browser
fervent granite
This guy apparently
I only bought this because microsoft sent me a $5 gift code, so I made them pay for it 
fervent granite
sad part is you need that to install third-party texture packs for minecraft now
brave field
Its just so weird
I'd expect the phone version to have more modding support than the console version of a sandbox game
I wouldn't expect a phone version to be more stable and run better
fervent granite
Exactly this ^
Launching the game and loading into a world on my iPhone 8 takes like 10 seconds MAX
whereas on xbox it takes it's more like 10 minutes assuming the syncing process cooperates with you
brave field
Switch loads but all the chunks near beds sometimes go invisible and it takes >2 minutes for them to reappear
No issues on any cheap snapdragon 820 phone
no sense at all
fervent granite
I usually get that when flying fast with the elytra, oddly enough it doesn't seem to drop any frames
arctic yarrow
Apparently I suck at troubleshooting internet with old ladies. Spent 40 minutes on the phone with this sweet old lady and I was only able to get her to reboot her router.
Luckily it's a Saturday, and the phones are dead quiet.
rose granite
Looking for someone to help me with bots on a server pay is involved
formal verge
meh thought id see if anyone mined Pi?
jovial tide
how can i fix this? i get this error when trying to log in on my psn account
this has been happening since i used my kali and ubuntu machine for psn
kindred temple
how can i fix this? i get this error when trying to log in on my psn account
PSN hates some chromium based browser for no reason at all, like opera.
Try other browser?
preferably with different engine altogether like firefox.
jovial tide
i was using bromite on my smartphone. but then i installed chrome because i thought it would work.
i bought a psn key from a different site(cdkeys) and then put that on ps store.
psn doesnt want my money...
kindred temple
Try other browser?
.
fervent granite
chromoium
trim pumice
Anyone know any good over-ear headphones, wired/wireless, preferably from Amazon or something
Or can provide me some insight on how these are: https://www.amazon.co.uk/OneOdio-Bluetooth-Over-Ear-Headphones/dp/B0828S1TPM/ref=psdc_4085761_t1_B07MQSFW9R
kindred temple
Anyone know any good over-ear headphones, wired/wireless, preferably from Amazon...
Anything that isnt a bose is usually cool
Have you check that top of the line sony
I forgot the damn name
trim pumice
!ban 267803395983802368 Paid Services
stone harbor
ban
jovial tide
pure ridgeBOT
Banned Dovahkaal#1000 (Case #91748) (user notified with a direct message)
undone tusk
!levels
brave field
@formal verge You talking about the MLM/pyramid scheme mobile cryptocurrency?
formal verge
yep
brave field
Would stay far away
some people here have mentioned it but its hard to tell if they're legit users who somehow can't see how its a scam or if they're the bots Pi uses
vapid grove
Anyone know any good over-ear headphones, wired/wireless, preferably from Amazon...
Best sub-$50 over ear headphones I've had were from monoprice
https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=16150
Would stay away from any of those "bass boosted" options if you care about sound quality.
A pair of AKG K92's would be a good choice around the same price point
empty coral
Anybody here know if the Tonor Q9 or the Tonor TC20 is better (add a extra 20 usd on the tc20 for the xlr hub) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B089SJGQBH/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=amazanechannel03-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B089SJGQBH&linkId=55084bee340402ee0be54a06948ff900 https://www.amazon.com/TONOR-Microphone-Condenser-Recording-Podcasting/dp/B07JMYG6LF/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=tonor+q9&qid=1613949559&sr=8-3
fervent granite
brave field
only 26 minutes?
fervent granite
that's fast?
brave field
dunno
I can tell you 20gb transfer on a 5400rpm laptop drive (especially WD greens, yuck) is pain and suffering
fervent granite
Felt that, my dead vista-era laptop had those kinds of speeds
but the iphone backup is going from my internal nvme to my external 7200 rpm data drive
empty coral
PC, do you know anything about mic’s?
brave field
ah
Nope, my peripheral and accessories knowledge is "Buy the cheapest thing on Ebay that looks decent enough from youtube reviews"
name brand things are usually out of my budget
empty coral
Oh
fervent granite
instructions unclear: bought a fake power supply and burnt down the house
brave field
hrk PSUs
ironically, you can actually find some foreign PSUs that are theoretically safer than budget EVGA or Thermaltake Smart models
fervent granite
Really? I thought brands evga were the "gold standard" or something
brave field
A lot of PSUs, like with ram, aren't made by the company handling warranty and returns
Many budget ones are missing some protections like OCP entirely
Trusting a PSU based on its brand name alone isn't really safe
vapid grove
What are your thoughts on the LTT PSU tier list
brave field
I'm mixed on it. I don't look at it often and don't know enough of the specifics about specific parts, but I do see many of the best bang-for-buck models are in there in decent tiers
One annoying thing is them not listing sources for most of those ratings
I don't know too much about rail stability, or specific cap models, or DC-DC, topology
but buying a PSU that's missing basic protections? Don't do that
But cross-referencing multiple professional reviews and looking at specs, you see EVGA B3 is a fire hazard, EVGA BQ lacks OTP, etc
Brands aren't safe
If its rated for 500W and has issues when a system draws 430W from it, even if your system only uses 300W, don't waste money on it
fervent granite
And people are just fine with it?
brave field
Its a little nitpicky
Not many "bad" PSUs consistently shoot out sparks for >100 users
or ones with a high failure rate like CX green label might get replaced before they die
So yeah, a lot of people are fine with a bad PSU
the problem is when you're someone with terrible luck
and a lucky spark or random power surge kills your components and sets your curtains on fire
fervent granite
do prebuids have the same problem?
brave field
Depends on what PSU is in the prebuilt
Dell ones are generally safe since the OEM making those is the same one that makes their server PSUs, if things haven't changed
But CyberDigitalStormPowerRazerLatinSuperGamingXTreme can give you any sort of Logisys or Diablotek bomb
vapid island
Sent this pic in a discord group and someone asked if I was my pc was trying to summon a demon
kindred temple
<@!757386095028731945> You talking about the MLM/pyramid scheme mobile cryptocur...
what crypto?
the one thats spammed on twitter?
brave field
@kindred temple Pi/Bee
kindred temple
oh
Idk, i saw this another one thats also massively sus
@brave field mind if i dm ya where i find it?
brave field
DM me, sure
the super obvious crypto scams are annoying, I don't see how people fall for them
pale thistle
Turning my original Xbox 1.1 on
jovial tide
hey does a 3500x and rx 570 4gb hold up good in 2021?
kindred temple
hey does a 3500x and rx 570 4gb hold up good in 2021?
you mean 3600X?
that holds up very well in 2021, those things are barely even pass for kindergarten.
More worried on the price.
jovial tide
you mean 3600X?
no 3500x
kindred temple
ehhh?
kindred temple
Ah, china only unit
jovial tide
i am building one
kindred temple
I see
jovial tide
Ah, china only unit
no
kindred temple
kindred temple
Anyway
kindred temple
its already in zen 2 product stack, so should not be an issue
jovial tide
oh thanks mate
kindred temple
but again
jovial tide
umm
kindred temple
more worried of the price
kindred temple
where ya live?
jovial tide
Bangladesh
kindred temple
huh, i see
kindred temple
the usual bleedout of chinese only to indian-pakistani market.
Those should be good enough value
kindred temple
i would go for a 5600XT or 1650 Super if those are available at around that price.
indian-pakistani
jovial tide
and a part of pakistan 49 yrs ago
kindred temple
yeah i know
jovial tide
i would go for a 5600XT or 1650 Super if those are available at around that pric...
isnt possible bro
kindred temple
im just thinking those 2 are the same, for computer market atleast.
jovial tide
1650 s costs 20 percent more
jovial tide
than its original price
kindred temple
jovial tide
they usually have same product availability
yeah
sad
1650 s costs 200 bucks here
but amd parts are really cheap here for some reasons
gpu prices?
kindred temple
where scalping basically more of a "how much" instead of "when"
jovial tide
yeah
kindred temple
thats the weirdest scam card ive ever seen
jovial tide
lmfao
junior flax
Beep boop beep boop
jovial tide
What is the max space a ram can have?
light totem
well the largest ram size on a single stick that i've heard of is 128 gig
stone harbor
there are ones that have 3 tb
light totem
on a single stick?
fervent granite
well the largest ram size on a single stick that i've heard of is 128 gig
that's only for certain editions of windows iirc
Yep, Home can only have 128 gb max
If you want any more you'll need at least Pro
The upgrade is easy to perform too if you know what you're doing 
light totem
yeah i know that
but like
i was referring to how many gigs a single ram stick can obtain
fervent granite
with that much memory you might get away with not using a gpu
light totem
1.5grand
imagine having ur ram slots filled with these
brave field
a single, dual rank 288GB DDR4 DIMM should theoretically be possible but that's a super weird number and probably would cost a fortune and a half if you convinced someone to make it
fervent granite
if you could somehow hook up a battery to one of them sticks you could have the fastest computer ever 
fervent granite
1 terahertz cpu wen
just imagine having these kinds of speeds though
this even puts the top-of-the-line ssd's to shame
brave field
Samsung 980 pro can juuuust almost reach that read speed in an ideal environment
random read and write speeds matching the sequential speeds in that image would be wild
fervent granite
you could actually make ram partitions using ramdisk
brave field
Yeah but losing everything on it when you lose power sucks
I really wish those hardware ramdisk PCIe cards still existed, but for consumer use
Would stop DDR1 (though the actual disk size would be tiny, 8GB max coming from 8 1GB DIMMs)/2 from being e-waste and since they have a small battery, you can keep the data on there if power goes out
fervent granite
I thought ramdisks were supposed to be the future?
brave field
You can probably do a lot with ramdisk software and a UPS but most of the consumer-oriented hardware expansions have died off
expensive to make, and then expensive to buy, and THEN you have to buy the DIMMs too
For more professional work though, its the present. EPYC CPUs support 4TB of DDR4
fervent granite
Makes sense
arctic yarrow
I don't think there's RAM DIMMs larger than 256GB, but you can insert a 512GB Intel Optane DIMM directly into a RAM slot. You have to have a compatible server motherboard tho.
Oh, it also costs 30k, so better get saving 
iron pecanBOT
@worthy totem Use the appropriate Looking for Group (LFG) channel to find people to play with:
Apartment: #archive-ps｜apartment-heist-lfg
Casino: #ps4｜casino-lfg
Cayo Perico: #ps4｜cayo-perico-lfg
Doomsday: #archive-ps｜doomsday-lfg
Everything else: #ps4｜other-lfg
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arctic yarrow
No, use LFG
ionic thistle
brave field
Buying a new drive is an option
will need more info before suggesting anything else though
Maybe delete some other games or large video files you don't use?
hot rose
Where is the best website to get the necessary PC Parts and what is necessary to make a PC?
brave field
Check out https://pcpartpicker.com/ for an easy way to organize specs. You generally will need a CPU, GPU, memory, storage, power, and a motherboard as the bare minimum
It will also organize and sort stores for your first question, though there are some exceptions (Newegg is listed but is kinda terrible, Ebay isn't listed but is kinda amazing)@hot rose
arctic yarrow
If you're a movie buff like me and have a bunch of legacy DvDs/BDs lying around you'll also want to look into a disk drive.
brave field
If you like aesthetics and not having as much dust, a case as well. heh
Did not mention at all!
arctic yarrow
Check out <https://pcpartpicker.com/> for an easy way to organize specs. You gen...
Adding on to what you're talking about, eBay is decent as long as you filter out components from China. There's a ton of counterfeit components listed from there.
brave field
hm yeah, avoid the GPU listings especially
Your discs
you use them as they are?
They have copy protection and you just use them in a disc drive each time?
arctic yarrow
you use them as they are?
Well, slowly moving them over to a plex server.
But yes, I pop in a BD or DvD once in a while and watch them as they are.
arctic yarrow
BTW, the copy protection on DvDs and BDs are garbage. I can use MakeMKV and rip them easily.
arctic yarrow
I mean, it's kinda breaking the law having it on a plex server, but it's not like I'm distributing it.
brave field
A disc may be safe from rm -rf but you only have that one
US laws?
or some other country?
arctic yarrow
Ya, It's illegal to rip video files from DvDs and BDs in the US.
brave field
ah
arctic yarrow
But it's never enforced unless you're distributing it.
brave field
I know some things you can rip and have backups and others you just can't distribute
ah yeah
DMCA/copyright/protection laws are kinda strange
arctic yarrow
IKR
brave field
Don't like 'em at all
They need to be remade completely
They're just too unclear, and sometimes far too restrictive
arctic yarrow
Technically we're both breaking the law right now too. Did you know it's illegal to have an alias under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act?
Apparently the penalty is 5-20 years in federal prison for violating it.
brave field
Man, Facebook in the US and the Tencent Game Launcher in China weren't anti-consumer after all, they just wanted to keep us out of prison
time to start signing up for websites using my SSN
brave field
hm, gets a little bit of a pass
I don't see what it would've helped even in 1996 though
What are your thoughts on physical vs digital media, actually?
Well, how do you think it should be handled legally in place of what there is today?
arctic yarrow
Physical as a backup, digital for general use.
arctic yarrow
Well, how do you think it should be handled legally in place of what there is to...
In what way do you mean?
brave field
the rules about copying, making backups, storing, lending to family, DRM, all
arctic yarrow
I believe copying without distribution if you own the content should be legal. Lending to family, not necessarily giving, should also be legal.
As much as I hate DRM, the existing laws surrounding DRM should be left in place, maybe with some penalties reduced.
brave field
interesting
I think if I had power in this, I'd have some sort of clause allowing one to use a DRM-free version of something without repercussions if they've purchased a license from the original creator
same for making your own backups
and preferably, nothing invasive or a pain to work with if you're going to be copying for backups
Don't make me buy this one Korean only model of a disc drive
oh, and I want a return of download codes too
physical version should entitle someone to a copy of a digital one if the contents are the same
arctic yarrow
The difficulty I have is, due to my generally libertarian stance on many topics, I have a hard time with laws restricting or compelling companies to do something that is not explicitly beneficial or detrimental for their customers. Because of this, even though I hate DRM with a passion of a thousand suns, I believe enforcement of game dev's DRM should be handled wholly company-side.
I believe cracking DRM should still be illegal, but the penalties on the books should be reduced to a slap on the wrist and a fine.
brave field
The way I see it
in most developed countries, DRM seems to be more an issue with the distribution service or the method of accessing what you purchased being terrible than just cheapskates being rampant and killing company profit (note regional pricing matters too here. pocket change in one place can be month's salary in another)
If you don't make it a pain to purchase from you, people will probably purchase from you
Though I agree maybe it shouldn't be the government's job to say that
maybe some other entity, or the storefronts things get distributed by
Really you shouldn't make there be benefits to piracy that aren't monetary
arctic yarrow
Really you shouldn't make there be benefits to piracy that aren't monetary
Pretty much, ironically DRM that messes with performance encourages piracy.
Lately however, there have been game devs who include DRM in their games for the first few weeks, then remove it later.
I see where they're coming from by using that strategy, it hampers down on people pirating the game until they can make most of their sales, then remove it a few weeks later to make sure performance is improved.
brave field
I do like that
with games, its hard to tell why its put in though
Sometimes it really is to protect launch sales
But other times, it seems more like its used to appease investors
And some times, say if its Denuvo or Arxan where the cheapest tier is exactly 12 months and they continue to pay even after its been cracked 4 years ago, it doesn't make sense
arctic yarrow
Ya, it really doesn't. In my mind the only reason to have DRM is to protect launch sales.
After that, it's only a matter of time before it's cracked.
Also, always online DRM is bullshit.
brave field
Oh yeah, always-online anything gets $0 from me
That's no longer protecting anything
That's annoying people for the fun of it
arctic yarrow
I've done customer facing IT long enough to know a lot of people don't have consistent internet.
brave field
and even then, there are a multitude of other issues that can happen when you do have internet yourself
DRM provider loses internet 
arctic yarrow
Google's DNS goes down, everyone who plays that game gets their gameplay interrupted and loses progress.
Yes, I've done IT enough to see google's DNS go down a few times.
brave field
Particularly why I hate the Hitman series
Got two of the games for free and the only online aspect is an opt-in leaderboard system
The game can lose connection even if both your and IOI's internet is fine
Any tiny problem, anywhere will trigger it
DNS went down? There goes 80% of the game's content. Modem restarted? There goes 80% of the game's content.
VPN software updated? haha, no, you're just a pirate
arctic yarrow
The cloud is just a bunch of people's computers all haphazardly hooked together all around the world.
Ok, maybe it's not that chaotic, but you get my point.
brave field
A server is a server, regardless of what term people want to use
there will be issues
Its never an if but always a when
arctic yarrow
Some intern fucked something up? Whoops! Half the country's Domain name resolution is fucked.
Hope you remember the IP address of the website you use.
brave field
bonus points if the instructions to fix it are hosted on some super old always-online protected webapp still using flash player for access
arctic yarrow
Off topic, what is the best method to insert a PNG inside a PDF?
arctic yarrow
Damn, I have a MATLab script and output that I need to merge, and need to insert an image of an outputted plot inside the PDF.
I'll eventually figure it out
meager oyster
Hey guys is a .5 ms response time good for a monitor
arctic yarrow
It's excellent
brave field
Good gray to gray, real latency matters but I don't think low gray to gray + terrible everything else is common
meager oyster
Is it better than 1 ms?
vapid grove
no
5ms is perfectly fine, the difference between 5ms and 1ms is likely unnoticeable for most people/in most games
fervent granite
Off topic, what is the best method to insert a PNG inside a PDF?
PDF’s really weren’t made to be edited once they’re created
Best bet is to convert the picture itself as a pdf, and combine the pages
kindred temple
Good gray to gray, real latency matters but I don't think low gray to gray + ter...
not like gtg and standard latency is like far away.
brave field
I'm waiting for that one day where some no-name company is an exception to the norm
kindred temple
I think i have an orwellian level of idea to absolutely block stream sniper (i know there's a lot on the market thats way less invasive than this, but whatever)
Total game queue will be split to 16 queue pool, which every user doesnt know where they fall into. IP & every connected device MAC of every player in the queue is stored server side (with any IP mismatching the MAC address, or vice versa - to avoid vpn/mac generator circumvention - causing the account to be softbanned for 1-3x24h). Every system process is to be monitored via anticheat ala valorant, but with a step further to let the anticheat monitor the user's browsing activity, outside and inside of the computer. If any of the user's device browser is detected to be watching a streamer who is enabling streamer mode, the user will be redirected to a separate queue from the streamer.
This applies to every player in a squad, so if 1 player in a 5 player stacks triggers this circumvention, the entire stack also move to the queue.
spring condor
How would you handle dynamic IP addresses
And I think the game can only see the public IP address, which is the one influenced by the VPN
So you wouldn't know if the IP address is through a VPN or not
kindred temple
So you wouldn't know if the IP address is through a VPN or not
as it says, the anticheat reads any VPN applications as well.
And hardware VPN wont work, because as soon as you drop it (or start it, depends) youll get softbanned
But not gonna lie, i forgot dynamic ip when i made this
spring condor
Okay, what about the dynamic IPs
kindred temple
spring condor
And it's not that easy to track MAC addresses
kindred temple
correct
jovial tide
should i go 3500x or 2600
brave field
A true Matisse CPU but 6c6t...
jovial tide
A true Matisse CPU but 6c6t...
so do you think i should buy it or buy the r5 2600
brave field
depends on what you use it for imo
jovial tide
i will use it for gaming and some light productivity like
video editing sometimes and some other stuff
brave field
faster 6c6t vs slower 6c12t doesn't exactly have the clearest winner in games, sadly. Zen2 performs much better than Zen+ but at the same time, some DX12 games like RDR2 or COD: Warzone will benefit from the higher thread count
Video editing depends on software, in something like Premiere or the C4D renderer for AE where rendering is done on the CPU, the 2600 would be better
not really sure tbh
prices?
jovial tide
yeah the 3500x costs 162 dollars here retail
the r5 2600 costs 140 retail
the r5 3600 costs 205 dollars retail
all parts are new here
kindred temple
used parts exists, you just need to have the balls to take the risk of no warranty
jovial tide
yeah ik but
i cant find anyone selling a 3600
or a 2600
i found a guy selling a 1600
but its not worth it at at 120 bucks
jovial tide
used parts exists, you just need to have the balls to take the risk of no warran...
do you think i should buy a b450m ds3h?
its reliable
kindred temple
unless you literally dont have any other good board, no.
DS3H and S2H is kinda a s s compared to other matx B450 like asrock b450m steel legend and b450m prime
jovial tide
DS3H and S2H is kinda a s s compared to other matx B450 like asrock b450m steel ...
okay
robust hound
Maybe higher I have to wait to see how much I get from my pay lol
zealous pasture
then u could think of it later i guess
i mean the apu itself is 200 dollars
400 dollars cant fetch u a good gpu and a cpu
robust hound
How much u think I need?
zealous pasture
600-800 would be a sweet spot
robust hound
Ok thank u
neon kraken
just for a cpu and gpu?
neon kraken
i thought he was saying he only wanted to spend 400 on gpu and cpu and i was gonna say it wont get ya anything great but good enough
zealous pasture
the cheapest good enough cpu(the 3200 G) is 203 dollars
neon kraken
tru that
zealous pasture
3200G is a very capable cpu
neon kraken
i picked up a 5600x and a 2060 for under 600 tho
zealous pasture
pog
neon kraken
lmao that is a steal
neon kraken
market place?
neon kraken
bruh how did you talk them down so much lmaoooo
zealous pasture
the cpu then was about 120-130
and the 1660ti was about 170-180
the cpu was already discounted
zealous pasture
where do u live
neon kraken
MI
zealous pasture
MI ?
neon kraken
usa
zealous pasture
we neighbours
neon kraken
CA?
zealous pasture
canada
neon kraken
lmao i right across the bridge to canada crazy tho that you are getting those prices '
CAD especially
zealous pasture
i translated it to usd
neon kraken
do you guys have those tariffs increases with china?
neon kraken
like trump signed those tariffs here and thats what caused a lot of our stuff to go up in the usa unless im just dumb and misinformed lol
neon kraken
tru that my b
jovial tide
i mean the apu itself is 200 dollars
the apu is 124 dollars
jovial tide
take a look
zealous pasture
i opened pc part picker
jovial tide
zealous pasture
tk ?
jovial tide
zealous pasture
its cheap
zealous pasture
126 CAD
jovial tide
people dont know much about these here
zealous pasture
but
jovial tide
thats why they are chaep
zealous pasture
here its expensive
jovial tide
cheap
jovial tide
here its expensive
rip
zealous pasture
inflation
jovial tide
yeah
zealous pasture
the same 3200G is for 203 dollars
zealous pasture
we need to wait
zealous pasture
q3 is going to be fire
jovial tide
he is selling it for 4500
which is about 53 dollars
no i would rather go 14nm+++++++++++++
zealous pasture
ah ok
zealous pasture
6900X with the 6900XT
jovial tide
hmm
zealous pasture
jovial tide
<:blobJustRight:651762215686242306>
we both Misters?
zealous pasture
hm yes
zealous pasture
yes ?
zealous pasture
could u find a 3600
jovial tide
r5 3500x
jovial tide
selling it for 17k
outta my budget
zealous pasture
wdym
zealous pasture
buy it from him and sell it to that dude
jovial tide
buy it from him and sell it to that dude
which dude
jovial tide
lol
i wont
i am building a pc
and i need cheap parts
but with reasonable performance
zealous pasture
smart
light sinew
This is probably the worst time to get parts because of artificial scarcity of new items along with shortages of semi conductors
jovial tide
is 4gb enough
jovial tide
This is probably the worst time to get parts because of artificial scarcity of n...
well not in my country though
zealous pasture
This is probably the worst time to get parts because of artificial scarcity of n...
the reason a 3200g is 203 usd
jovial tide
i mean that dude found one for like how much ?
which dude
zealous pasture
which dude
u
light sinew
is 4gb enough
I assume you are talking about vram in which case by todays standards thats decent, not great but gets the job done.
Amd cards are more unreliable though
jovial tide
I assume you are talking about vram in which case by todays standards thats dece...
okay do you think i should get the 8gb version with extra 29 dollars?
zealous pasture
no
light sinew
Yea
zealous pasture
go for higher clock speed
light sinew
Wait which card
jovial tide
go for higher clock speed
lol what?
zealous pasture
even tho it has 8gb vram
light sinew
Hm I think my friend was looking to get that but got a 5700 instead
zealous pasture
why not get a 1650 super
jovial tide
someones selling an rx 570 8gb for the same price of a 580 4gb
zealous pasture
and amd cards are unstable
light sinew
If you could stick with nvidia you are better off long term
jovial tide
why not get a 1650 super
nvidia prices are touching skies rn in here too
jovial tide
If you could stick with nvidia you are better off long term
so amd cards wont last long?.
light sinew
Yea everything is overpriced atm
jovial tide
Yea everything is overpriced atm
nah bro
zealous pasture
wait for q3 imo
jovial tide
amd parts are cheap rn
light sinew
Well, they are prone to kicking the bucket
light sinew
Amd is cheaper, better bang for the buck in most/all cases
jovial tide
yeah
light sinew
The cpus are great but I like nvidia for cards
light sinew
I have the 3700x at the moment
jovial tide
okay so 1650 s if i can?
zealous pasture
I have the 3700x at the moment
pog
light sinew
If you can get it at the right price yea
light sinew
There will be ridiculous prices but dig and you’ll find rational ones
Remember everything is overpriced rn
light sinew
Bad buyers market
vapid grove
$230 
jovial tide
vapid grove
I remember I bought a 1660s for that
jovial tide
zealous pasture
I remember I bought a 16*60*s for that
super huh
light sinew
If I sell my 2070s idk what I’d have to replace it unless I get a 3070 for the $500 retail price
Then I’m set
zealous pasture
uhh
jovial tide
rx 570 82 bucks??
zealous pasture
all 1660 ti are out of stock
jovial tide
its worth it imo
light sinew
If you are going for a temporary budget build then that looks like a good deal. Is it used?
light sinew
That is a budget card so at least you won’t have to worry about a crypto mining history with it
1660ti for $700 bruh that is what 3070’s are reselling for
jovial tide
If you are going for a temporary budget build then that looks like a good deal. ...
no its new
zealous pasture
are they really selling for 700
zealous pasture
but still its a steal
jovial tide
yeah
zealous pasture
at this time
jovial tide
light sinew
I saw a 1050ti going for $400 like anybody is dumb enough to buy it
zealous pasture
I saw a 1050ti going for $400 like anybody is dumb enough to buy it
was it a "poster" ?
light sinew
Well you technically don’t but it would suck without a dedicated graphics card