tech-coding-math

[tawny totem]

Ahhb

Where you live again?

[civic cloud]

Just add a brace in the back

Ask someone to make them??????? Wth

[rapid lake]

what

[rapid lake]

Lebanon

[tawny totem]

Ah

[rapid lake]

I'd tell you come here and buy a laptop then go back but you might not come back

[tawny totem]

Fuck you mean might not come back

[rapid lake]

It's not the safest of countries all things considered

[rapid lake]

That ruins the aesthetic

[tawny totem]

I cant get this thing to work

[rapid lake]

This guy has no taste

A whole pond for 100 euros

[tawny totem]

I dont understand why my button wont go all the way to the bottom

Its not a pond

[rapid lake]

Oh you're making this website?

[tawny totem]

Its a popular tourist destination

[tawny totem]

Why does everyone think its someone elses lol

[rapid lake]

Because you didn't mention it was yours

[tawny totem]

Lol

[rapid lake]

So is this part of a school project or something

[tawny totem]

Making it for a competition

Which meant i could not use php, so 8 had to invent my own way of automatically loading the cortect information only frok js

[quaint helm]

did u include spacing inside ur html code?

phew HOF is staying

[rapid lake]

GALAX my goat

[lost fossil]

galax

kfc2

[quaint helm]

kfc

[lost fossil]

isn't hof a galax thing?

galax hof, like asus rog

[quaint helm]

galax's OC series yes

idk why would palit take over galax when palit itself feels like dying already

[civic cloud]

You won't see it

[lost fossil]

palit vash dom spalit

@placid notch can verify

the gpu in my first pc was from palit

[rapid lake]

It would interfere with any clamps or cable trays I'd want to put towards the back

I can do one down the middle like yours

[lost fossil]

my desk is almost 4 too

[rapid lake]

It's average

[lost fossil]

why so wide tho

70 is a bit much especially when you have your monitors on an arm

[rapid lake]

I like eating at my desk

And it felt a bit crammed back when I had 60

[lost fossil]

i

[rapid lake]

Professional eater

[lost fossil]

[rapid lake]

I don't have such skill

[quaint helm]

u covid dancer?

[lost fossil]

i soup pose

i suppose

[rapid lake]

I thought you meant that, you eat with the bowl/plate in your hands

[placid notch]

yes spalit indeed

[lost fossil]

towards the "end" of the bowl/plate yes kinda

[quaint helm]

what about licking the plate

[civic cloud]

....don't put it directly at the back then?

Silly guy

[civic cloud]

I have 70 and it's perfectly useable

[rapid lake]

I don't need to put one at all

[civic cloud]

ok

[rapid lake]

Because the top is thicc

[civic cloud]

It will bend over time

[rapid lake]

Unlike your top

iirc it's like 2cm

[civic cloud]

Oh that's bent because I didn't oil the side after cutting

[rapid lake]

bruh

[civic cloud]

:D

[rapid lake]

mistakes were made

[civic cloud]

I paid more for the saw than the table top, it's whatever

[rapid lake]

Are you cutting wood in your apartment

[civic cloud]

Yes

Don't do that

Especially without vacuum

[nova steppe]

"Oh god... it's EVERYWHERE"

[civic cloud]

Yeah pretty much

[quaint helm]

gau

uss

[civic cloud]

Yes

[quaint helm]

ye

es

[rapid lake]

Didn't know you were crazy like that

[rapid lake]

@civic cloud I might end up coping with a not-so-thick panel because they seem to be expensive asf since they're not standard size

[civic cloud]

Good to hear :D

If you want cheap but thick: look for kitchen countertops

[lost fossil]

my desk is an ikea kitchen countertop

it was not that cheap tho

[civic cloud]

:(

[rapid lake]

I wish some genius here would make a hardware store with stuff like this

Why is everything so gatekept

You can only get stuff from specialised places and everything costs a kidney

[civic cloud]

Idk

Skill issue?

[civic arch]

is there any cheap audio interfaces

than can do like balanced out with a volume knob

24bit 48khz

finally got my monitors but my cable is less than optimal probably

sound amazing but cant be watching movies or youtube with that

currently using 3.5mm to 2 xlr but i think the 3.5mm is making bad contact

its trrs not trs plug

[rapid lake]

There was an audiophile here that could help you but I forgor who

[nova steppe]

Cora

[nova steppe]

Focusrite scarlet 2i2

[civic arch]

i have a 3.5mm trs plug but i need to unsolder it to try

or i could just cut the cables and solder them together idk

[civic arch]

why 2i2

i think solo is cheaper

3rd gen is 80-90€

[nova steppe]

I forgot the solo existed, but the 2i2 has stereo out, idr if the solo has dual outputs

There's also behringer thats cheaper

[civic arch]

i think it dont have 24bit

audio

solo it has 2 6.3mm out

balanced too i think

6.3mm to xlr is also fine

[civic arch]

kali lp6

way bigger than i thought they were

currently i have one on a chair and a smaller desk

getting a bigger desk next month

[rapid lake]

Explain

[quaint helm]

u can adjust settings via the display settings instead of monitor's button

[rapid lake]

That's nice

Though realistically you only really adjust your monitor's OSD settings once every 5 years, if at all

[quaint helm]

[civic arch]

i dont think i have opened the monitor osd in years

brightness is just 1 button so its easy to change

[nova steppe]

This was a thing on my monitor, but you needed to use their software, and had to have a USB cable plugged into it

But I had the USB plugged in anyway because it has two USB ports on it, so I used it for my wheel and webcam

[civic arch]

cant dp or hdmi transfer data back to the monitor??

on linux i could change alot of osd settings in the os

just dp plugged in

[nova steppe]

[civic cloud]

Mulit Monitor

[junior flax]

hi i know barely anything about monitors other then basic

i want a new 1 cos mines abit shit

preferably oled whats some good ones now

[quaint helm]

budget

[rapid lake]

Watch monitors unboxed on youtube

[junior flax]

£600

from uk

can stretch abit more

if feeling cheeky

my pc specs are 7800x3d, 4070 super, 48gb @6000mt/s

[civic cloud]

Sell 16GB RAM and you can easily buy a top spec OLED

[rapid lake]

what's ur preferred size

[junior flax]

27 probs

[rapid lake]

27 inch or ultrawide

[junior flax]

its 2 24gb sticks

[junior flax]

probs 27 but ill take ultrawide suggestions

[rapid lake]

mkay

and 1440p since that 4070 super is not running anything in 4k without struggling

[junior flax]

ya probs if it wont run 4k

[rapid lake]

Do you care for high refresh rate or

[junior flax]

kinda, i do play comp games

[rapid lake]

Like, 500hz I mean

[quaint helm]

dual mode ig

[junior flax]

is it rlly worth it

like if its worth it then yeah

i only have a 165hz monitor rn

[quaint helm]

4k + 720p those kind of monitor ig

[rapid lake]

How much is the Gigabyte MO27Q28G for you

[junior flax]

yeah 489

[rapid lake]

that cheap damn

ok we can do better then

[quaint helm]

i saw 1 4k 240 and 1080 480

but 780 pound lol

[rapid lake]

I'm looking at more expensive OLEDs but they have lower refresh rate than the gigabyte because 4K

But I guess you can't go wrong with the Asus ROG Strix OLED XG27AQWMG 27

[junior flax]

will my 4070 struggle bad with 4k?

[quaint helm]

a little yes

[rapid lake]

Probably especially since 12gb of vram

[quaint helm]

XG32UCWMG if u want 4k 240 and 1080 480 (the one that cost 780)

[rapid lake]

I think the ASUS is the brightest 1440p OLED so far

It's tandem WOLED

I'd probably go with that

280hz is plenty

[quaint helm]

flashbang 🔦

i accidentally pressed desktop and what the fk is these

[rapid lake]

MSI MAG 272QP X50 if you want 500hz, but I don't think it's within budget

[rapid lake]

MSI cringestation

[rapid lake]

Yeah over budget by 100

[junior flax]

that could be fine

[quaint helm]

its ok he can sell his ram 🤓

[rapid lake]

It depends on what you prefer

[junior flax]

I LOVE MY RAM

[rapid lake]

Do you value better colours and higher brightness, or way higher refresh rate than the ASUS

Can your GPU even get 500hz in any games, consider that too unless you're upgrading later

[quaint helm]

wait color and brightness = asus right and high refresh rate most of the time = msi?

[rapid lake]

Here yeah

[junior flax]

Probs colors n shit

[quaint helm]

asusssy we go

[rapid lake]

in general idk, but I don't think I've seen an ultra high refresh rate asus oled yet

[rapid lake]

Asus ROG Strix OLED XG27AQWMG 27 then

280hz is plenty tbf

[quaint helm]

PG34WCDN , 360hz lol (ok nvm way off the budget)

[rapid lake]

that's a 34 inch

is there a 27

[quaint helm]

wait theres a 500hz 27inch

[rapid lake]

Damn OLEDs are actually getting cheap wth

[rapid lake]

is it tandem oled

[quaint helm]

no tho

[rapid lake]

Yeah there isn't a tandem oled 500hz I think

[quaint helm]

qd oleg

[rapid lake]

only qd-oled

So I guess it's decided then

Although (personally) if I was upgrading from an IPS to an OLED I'd just go for the higher refresh rate, don't think I would notice the difference in colours from that to the tandem ngl

[junior flax]

lol wtf

[quaint helm]

that psu......trust

[quaint helm]

ok so msi asus and aorus 500hz = qt oleg only

[rapid lake]

hold up

is the ASUS ROG Swift OLED PG27AQWP-W out yet

[quaint helm]

[rapid lake]

Gah damn

So they exist just not anywhere within this price range

[quaint helm]

this tandem oled 540?

[rapid lake]

That's crazy tho

Yeah

https://rog.asus.com/monitors/27-to-31-5-inches/rog-swift-oled-pg27aqwp-w/

oh is this the one with the active cooling or whatever it was they had at the back

[quaint helm]

welp trust me the user for these kind of monitor = sponsored,partner content creator lol

[rapid lake]

Yeah no one's buying this not even for business

[quaint helm]

what..........tf

[junior flax]

lol wtf

[rapid lake]

wait till you see the 1080hz one

[quaint helm]

o wait this one....came out in CES26 earlier this year

[rapid lake]

Oh that one's IPS lol

540 at 1440p, 1080hz at 720p

[quaint helm]

imagine oled 3k for a monitor frfr

[rapid lake]

We're gonna need a whole new DP generation for this one lmao

Meanwhile I'm sticking to my 27 inch 144hz VA from 2018 or whatever

[boreal oxide]

post and image tech for a slight briefing how old you are in internet years , here's mines when I was hyped in msn messenger and had a chick stalking me there when I was in high school lol

who remember msn plus and able to send ullimated nudges and make you close friends scream and disco the internet or crash their pc?

ahahahaha

[lost fossil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/904101912201277452/1422672537808142497/what.gif

[civic cloud]

Me

[rapid lake]

You can get something better for the same price

Again that's qd-oled to the blacks might look kinda washed out in a room with bright lights

Also the monitor has wifi?

[junior flax]

yes

[quaint helm]

chikin nuggies

[wicked galleon]

who here is good in physics

how can i do forces

[quaint helm]

feel the force

[civic cloud]

F=m*a

[tawny totem]

Hi

[snow fiber]

Hi

[quaint helm]

wonder is it worth it to spend like 50$ for a powerbank that can charge laptop n phone

[snow fiber]

If you travel often

[quaint helm]

travel between class to class in university

[snow fiber]

Probably no then

[quaint helm]

i think i charge it once a week only

[quaint helm]

doggo included in case

[civic cloud]

Yay

[median nova]

Ohkk guys

[rapid lake]

don't think I've seen that before

[rapid lake]

Capacity?

I think i got a 25000mAh power bank for like $18 from Bavin

22.5w

Damn my laptop's battery alone is 35000 mwh

[quaint helm]

iirc its 20k and 65w i think

from 1 and only ugreen

[rapid lake]

about 3000 mah lol

that's kinda small but it lasts 10 hours

[rapid lake]

Most overpriced not worth brand ever

But if you want the fast charging I guess

[quaint helm]

if i plug in powerbank that give around 20w my laptop take it as a battery extender instead of charging lol

[rapid lake]

[quaint helm]

yes ik its weird

[rapid lake]

I haven't tried charging my laptop with powerbank now that I think about it

But it only charges at 45 watts so I think it would be fine

[quaint helm]

i think 45 is good enough tbh

[rapid lake]

The laptop I mean, not the powerbank

It's plenty fast though and I mostly keep it plugged in

[quaint helm]

yeah same good enough

[rapid lake]

What's your laptop?

was it a zenbook

[quaint helm]

ux3405(1st gen) , yes zenbook

[rapid lake]

OLED?

[quaint helm]

yeap

⭕🦵

i believe all zenbook are ⭕🦵just which kind of ⭕🦵 display only

[rapid lake]

dayum son

[civic arch]

damn even in an unoptimal setup

the speakers sound so good

why pay extra for genelecs

[wicked galleon]

the hell

[uneven heron]

Guys my phone has been very laggy and slow to do anything despite it having 120hz

I've been told to clear my cache how do I do that?

[rapid lake]

ask chatgpt

[cold elbow]

That wont fix shit

Put more apps into deep sleep

[uneven heron]

What's deep sleep

[rapid lake]

All of your questions can be answered with a quick google search

[uneven heron]

I just wanted to know if that would actually fix my problem I've explained the symptoms I'm having

[wet vigil]

There could be lots of causes

Like the notification system, all the ads that you keep getting from apps, the subsciptions, running apps on the background

The undeleted cache memory

Where does the high usage of the phone come from?

[nova steppe]

120Hz isn't going to do anything but make the screen look smother in motion. It speeds up nothing.

Check your storage space and see if it's near full, especially if you use Spotify Lossless. There's no cap on the cache size, so I have to clear it within the app every once in a while, or it takes up 20+ gigs.

[uneven heron]

How does this look?

[nova steppe]

Depends per phone, ig. My phone "only" has 128 gigs of storage total, and i try to keep it below 105. (Only spotify cache keeps it that high)

And like the others said, check your background apps to see if it's taking up memory

[uneven heron]

I'm not sure where I'm looking but this is battery usage

[quaint helm]

holy fk i saw 1 pre-order asussy laptop that have B390 at 2450$ 💀

[rapid lake]

dayum

[quaint helm]

32GB + 1TB forgot its oled or not

+90w charging and also under 1kg lol

[pearl notch]

Question for you guys what’s he best handheld on the market

[wet vigil]

Captain americas shield is the best hand held object

[pearl notch]

So helpful

[civic arch]

will a dedicated audio interface

remove line nosie

from the computer

clean signal from phone even near the pc

[rapid lake]

I always used to get line noise especially if my cable was touching the carpet a bit

[civic cloud]

Quite a loaded atmosphere

Hi hadi

[rapid lake]

hi

[civic cloud]

wow, cold

night

[rapid lake]

damn

goodnight

[civic cloud]

:3

[civic arch]

focusrite scarllet solo 4th gen is probably the best choice

probably future proof

i could down the line buy an amp for headphones and just run it from the focusrite

if i need the extra

[spare chasm]

Someone help

Privacy error shit

I did everything and still not working

[upbeat spade]

if you want help from somebody, you would do well to give more information about what the problem is and what you did beyond "some shit is wrong i tried to fix it"

and if this is gta-related, send that information into #gta-tech-support instead - this is a community channel for tech enthusiasts

[nova steppe]

no*

it depends on how high the output signal is, or if something else is introducing noise into the system

it can help, but nothing is guaranteed

example: I use guitar plugins on my PC, and if I'm using the scroll wheel on a web page or causing my screen to "update," you can hear the electrical noise in the output

but if you typically get a buzzing noise in your PC that's always there, it can help, yes

[civic arch]

what kind of plugins

do you plug them into like usb interface?+

in theory a dedicated dac should fix the issue i dont have a ground loop issue

either

all the pc outputs are noisy

which is weird if a phone like next to the pc has no interference

also then i get balanced so it cancels some of the noise

[nova steppe]

Neural DSP's Archetype Abasi and Archetype Gojira X

[nova steppe]

i plug the guitars into a USB interface. the plugins are software

[civic arch]

which usb interface

oh i was thinking like a pedal

lmao

[nova steppe]

I've been using usb interfaces for my pc audio for close to 10 years now. I only use direct from the PC if I'm outputting to my a/v reciever for my speakers, or if I'm testing something

[nova steppe]

Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 into a behringer u-phoria UMC404HD

i use the scarlett as a preamp, and it just goes straight out the back then into the front of the 404

[civic arch]

and that does get noise from the pc?

maybe ill just get the scarllet and hope it fixes the noise

and i can use a xlr mic in the future which is nice

my current one is usb

atleast i can make my current cables work easily

just cut off the 3.5mm and separate and solder on stereo plugs

[nova steppe]

from the pc itself, alone, no. Only from my guitars which pick up PC, monitor, etc noise

It can pick it up if you crank the gain, but I'd just be clipping all my inputs anyway

[civic arch]

i could get a scarlett solo 3rd gen for like 50€

used

good condition

probably worth it

i dont need the features of the 4th

probably fine for just monitors and headphone out when gaming

4th has a knob for both but ill never use both

[upbeat spade]

maybe my system is fucky

but my solo 3 has white noise while my pc output doesn't

[nova steppe]

any high-current switch (i.e. fans) always get caught by my interface(s)

[upbeat spade]

speaking of audio, it's bandcamp friday in six hours my dudes

time to drop a hundred bucks on a taiwanese group 😈

[wicked galleon]

who here is good at physics

@thin turtle

[upbeat spade]

https://dontasktoask.com/

[wicked galleon]

what is a force

[nova steppe]

[upbeat spade]

[wicked galleon]

ok sorry

state two properties which any force possesses

hello

[upbeat spade]

are you fr

it's in your textbook dawg

like there's "i need help understanding this case" questions and then there's "this is literally one of the first things that the teacher tells you in an intro course" questions

[wicked galleon]

bro

its not on my textbook

and my teacher never taught this

[upbeat spade]

wtf

you gotta hit up a youtube video then

[twilit hemlock]

Who knows how to destroy a discord server without having perms?

[upbeat spade]

nobody does

[upbeat spade]

fr dude, us telling you trivia isn't going to teach you physics
if you're not being taught, you need to self-teach

[wicked galleon]

ok wait

this one i actually tried youtubing

and it was

differentl

[upbeat spade]

what did it tell you

[wicked galleon]

it gave me google response

[upbeat spade]

ok

[wicked galleon]

what are the units of a force

i genuinely cant find this

@upbeat spade

[upbeat spade]

you're asking two different questions now

forces are vector quantities, meaning they have a magnitude and direction

units of a force depend on the units of whatever you're working on

[wicked galleon]

ok

ok

[upbeat spade]

this is really fundamental theory
if you're not trolling and you're actually not being taught by your teacher, you have to teach yourself
read the book, search youtube with the title of the chapter you're on, etc.

i don't want to discourage you from asking questions, but people tend not to appreciate it when you treat them like google and ask them trivia

[pearl notch]

It gives I call my mom to read cooking instructions

[civic cloud]

Hell yeah treat urself sis

[civic cloud]

what do you mean you "genuinely cant find this"

Literally first result

Force = mass * acceleration

Mass [kg], acceleration [m/s^2]

Means the unit of force is (kg*m)/s^2

and Newton is (kg*m)/s^2🤝

[quaint helm]

new ton

[civic cloud]

That's just ur mom after her lunch

[quaint helm]

ban gauss

ban him

[midnight hill]

I need you fr

[quaint helm]

[wary pawn]

[snow fiber]

[rapid lake]

I don't think they teach it like that in 8th grade or whatever, you're just going to confuse him lol

[civic cloud]

Hey i didnt talk about how distance speed and acceleration are connected

[upbeat spade]

they do teach it like that at that level, don't they

otherwise, what's the point of learning physics

these were the first things i learned in physics

walk in the room and realize "fuck me, it's a second precalculus class"

[rapid lake]

Afaik it's just N (Newton) they don't know where it came from

At least that's how we were taught at that level

[rapid lake]

Personally I connect mine with USB-C 3.2

[snow fiber]

[upbeat spade]

naw i got taught allat at that level 😔

[upbeat spade]

-v- yeh

been wanting to buy the older ones here for like six years

[quaint helm]

Mr dimm 🤶

[civic cloud]

We were taught to check units to see if you fucked up in your practice tasks

[civic cloud]

Noooooo not even vinyl for the vibes

[upbeat spade]

they don't have the option

i would have bought cd's but they cost like, 2x each per album due to shipping

i once found some of the cds in taiwan, but i didn't pick them up because i was like a couple bucks off

regret

[civic cloud]

Wait

Cant you just

Burn in new CDs

Real 2000s vibes

[upbeat spade]

i could

i even have blank cds

[civic cloud]

But?

[upbeat spade]

don't have a drive though

[civic cloud]

Thats like 20 quid bb

[upbeat spade]

yea

but since i'm a weirdo, i'd probably spend 140 on a metal one with a clamshell just so it looks nice on my desk the one time i use it

[civic cloud]

Bruh

[upbeat spade]

what can i say

isn't this just

so cool

[civic cloud]

Why does it open on the top

Freaky

[upbeat spade]

wym

that's cool

the slidey slidey ones or the slot ones suck

[civic cloud]

I only know the ones with eject in pcs

[upbeat spade]

i want a clamshell

[civic cloud]

Slidey slidey💀

[snow fiber]

real?

[upbeat spade]

i'll never know when the tray breaks because i'll open it and then push it in like i did when i was a child

[snow fiber]

when i used to play in childhood i only encounter these ones

[civic cloud]

What tray

[upbeat spade]

the slidey slidey ones 💀

[civic cloud]

Im lost

[snow fiber]

you press the button , sometimes it gets stuck

[upbeat spade]

ugh i hated when it got stuck

[rapid lake]

back when there weren't so many units

now half the time my mistakes in practice are because of wrong units

like why do different formulas be using 20 different pressure units

[civic cloud]

Oh now i just totally ignore them and add it at the end

[rapid lake]

That's better for your eyes

[civic cloud]

Its also faster because i have to write less

[rapid lake]

Can't imagine putting the units next to each number on every step of calculation

[civic cloud]

Its easy to imagine

[upbeat spade]

you could do it yourself right now

[civic cloud]

Exactly

[quaint helm]

🥚actlee

[uneven heron]

Should I invest in a tablet pen or nah? Not for drawing but for point and clicking navigation

I play OSRS mostly on tablet

[quaint helm]

use ur finger , save the money

[rapid lake]

That's kinda niche it's something for you to figure out

Might be more comfortable

[uneven heron]

Yeah I'll look into it. Closest I've used is a stylus for a Nintendo DS

[rapid lake]

I remember those

I kinda want a tablet for Uni but I love my papers

@civic cloud Do you take notes on tablet or paper

[civic cloud]

i dont take notes :D but i did my bachelor 100% on authentic paper and master 95% on tablet

[rapid lake]

Yeah neither do I but I do write my own summary of courses on paper

If it's not my handwriting it bothers me

Don't have to charge papers, they're always ready to go 😎

[civic cloud]

Exactly 😎

[civic cloud]

Yeah and i feel like you learn more when you handwrite it instead of typing it

[rapid lake]

That's what the teachers kept saying in HS but we just kept complaining they should just give us the full printed course instead

They're always right, and we're always wrong

[civic cloud]

They should provide solutions to every practice tasks with step by step explanation

Not just results

[lost fossil]

if i tried doing that, it would be a waste of ink bc i would not understand what i wrote 10 minutes later

[civic cloud]

Thats on you for having shit handwriting and also it being in cyrillic

[rapid lake]

lmao

[rapid lake]

Sometimes they don't provide any solution ngl, so if you miss the lecture it's gg

That's why chatgpt is worth it for me

[lost fossil]

truth

my handwriting is giga ass 😩

[rapid lake]

It's not the best but it's better than second guessing my answers for 2 hours straight trying to figure out if I solved the problems right

[rapid lake]

Ngl you might be the first person I've seen that doesn't understand their own handwriting

[lost fossil]

that was not without a bit of self-deprecation tho

it's not so bad, but could be a lot better

[modern tiger]

This just doesn’t make sense as the mentor could expect us to use loops when solving the same problem during interview

[quaint helm]

holy c

wait no thats C++

[rapid lake]

Idk wtf I'm looking at and I just finished cpp last semester

[quaint helm]

same lol

[rapid lake]

I wonder if it can be done with a single switch instead of whatever ts is

That would be a lot cleaner, and it's not like the loop can recreate the same structure with any number (i.e you give it a number n and it creates that triangle shape proportional to n)

Acutally I'm kinda bored let me try and make that

It sort of works I guess

thank god I have no more coding classes

[civic cloud]

just use AI

@rapid lake look how pretty my notes look today

[uneven heron]

Squares are just a suggestion to you aren't they

Goddamn your handwriting is small

[civic cloud]

Size doesnt matter

[nova steppe]

It's perfectly scaled for graph paper, if anything

[uneven heron]

Those bracket placements are atrocious.

Literally starting in the middle of a square

[nova steppe]

I used to write the same with it, because scaling it for two vertical boxes is larger than my normal writing

[uneven heron]

F

[civic cloud]

They start in the middle of a square if the numbers have 3/4 and start on a square if its a normal number

Usually

[uneven heron]

Nope, fail. You should drop out and take a calligraphy class

[nova steppe]

You first, and post your certificate when you're done

[civic cloud]

I passed my 9th grade art calligraphy class with an A despite being left handed, tyvm

[nova steppe]

Hyooj

[civic cloud]

wat

[nova steppe]

Huge

[quaint helm]

dahbiu

[civic arch]

how does this work

audio comes from phone no noise

its next to the pc

do phones have like shielded dacs or what

[modern tiger]

It was a basic test related to cpp but it reminded me of the star pattern program when I looked at the structure of the way those numbers were arranged

[modern tiger]

Yes, the first loop is what I was looking for but instead of that I used if else for the extra nbsp (spaces)

I am more into VB.Net and JavaScript(Vanilla), CSS, HTML (mostly product development) and had used CPP/C in 2018 but had to go through the DSA concepts again.

The issue is interviewers use Nodejs and C# instead of vanilla JS and VB.Net due to which I have to select CPP for the online tests.

[rapid lake]

Yeah but the way you did it is still far from optimal I would say

And reading your code is kind of extremely hard

[civic cloud]

The distance makes the difference

[civic arch]

it was next to the p

pc

like 5cm away

idk i ordered the focusrite scarlett

hopefully it fixes it

with balanced and being away from the noisy gpu + cpu

i ordered the focurite scarlett solo 4th gen

[upbeat spade]

i don't think this is going to do what you think it does, but i guess it's not a terrible thing to try if you plan on using xlr in the future anyway

[civic cloud]

@upbeat spade why profile rebrand

[civic cloud]

Imagine you have two magnets and then imagine what a difference 5cm would make on their strength

[upbeat spade]

why not

[civic cloud]

Uhhhhhhhhh

:(

[quaint helm]

wadafak

[snow fiber]

It's called scamming

No need to be surprised

[rapid lake]

Some chinese dude can probably fix it and make profit

[quaint helm]

that famous chinese dude that lowkey fixes everything?

[rapid lake]

Yeah

There's one that specifically fixed GPUs

He can probably make a GPU's whole PCB from scratch perfectly and just solder the chip and vram onto it

[quaint helm]

i hope he will make something like 2x 5090's die on a PCB + 48GB

[rapid lake]

If there's a BIOS for it he probably will lmao

[civic arch]

my plan was that the focusrite is external and away from the noise

i already have xlr cable

ill just cut the 3.5mm head off and split the cable

rn its like a y cable

and the focusrite has 6.3mm balanced out which cancels noise too

[rapid lake]

what's a good gaming headset that doesn't look cringe, under $100

Detachable mic is a must, bonus points for a detachable cable too

[snow rover]

idk doesn't exist

fractal scape doesn't look cringe but it's like 150

[rapid lake]

$170

[civic arch]

razer mini seiren mic for like 40-50

then get some iems

its actually very solid sounding mic for its price

and being made by razer

[rapid lake]

I don't like iems

I mean your suggestion is pretty solid, and I've watched reviews on the razer mini seiren and was thinking of buying it, but I just don't like how iems feel

Btw my mobo doesn't have bluetooth so I'd prefer wired

I don't really care for wireless

[civic arch]

wired is the way to go imo

everything i use is wired too

mouse maybe wireless could be good

but wired i never need to charge

[rapid lake]

Yeah I only use wireless mouse

[civic arch]

did u look at any like hyperx

those headsets used to be solid

[rapid lake]

I have a hyperx cloud

But the stuff on the cushion peeled off in the first two weeks then kept leaving black bits over my ears

[civic arch]

best part about the fake leather pads

[rapid lake]

And they're just not aesthetically pleasing whatsoever, especially with their branding being all over their products and the red colour

[civic arch]

hell yeah

[rapid lake]

I want something "minimalist"

[civic arch]

idk i would personally recommend headphones and a separate mic

idk u can get hd560s from sennheiser for like 100€

open back tho so not for everyone

[rapid lake]

I think the cheapest sennheiser is the hd200 and they're meant for monitoring

lemme see

[civic arch]

oh its 120€

still crazy value

hd200 is minimalist atleast

[rapid lake]

Rip I can't find it here

[civic arch]

70 euro

[rapid lake]

It looks great

[civic arch]

the hd200

[rapid lake]

90 here

[civic arch]

your basically stuck to gaming sets if u want under 100 dollars

most likely cant get separate

[rapid lake]

I can up the budget

I want to get a standalone mic but if something has a mic I want to be able to remove it

I can't stand it being in my face unless I'm gaming

[civic arch]

personally i think for a mic you cant beat the price of razer seiren mini

then the issue is picking the headphones

[rapid lake]

There's the hyperx solocast I believe

It's pretty similar in terms of sound and a bit cheaper here

• I don't like razer as a brand

[civic arch]

yeah that looks solid too

mf discord certified

aint all microphones that

also has that thread for a stand if you ever get one

[rapid lake]

the HD560s look perfect and they're not overly expensive but I can't find a single place that sells 'em here

[rapid lake]

Whatever that means lol

[rapid lake]

definitely will I value my desk space

Discord in general makes any mic sound like shit

[civic arch]

weird

usually sennheiser is sold everywhere

atleast in eu

headphones are kinda risky too

what might sound good to me wont be good to you

[rapid lake]

I don't really listen to music so

I don't have much preference

[civic arch]

these eq really well for gaming tho

i have like boost on 350hz 1khz 2khz

imaging is decent too

can hear the enemy cassidy stomping around

get the hd200??

they look kinda cheap tho with that leather

hd560s would be velour that wont leave residue

[rapid lake]

Most reviews I saw don't recommend it for gaming

[civic arch]

i dont keep up with headphones much these days

[rapid lake]

But people that have used really good headphones don't hear things the same anymore

[civic arch]

can confirm

let people use my hifiman anandas and people were like wtf

then the cheaper closed backs sound just dull

dt770 has to be the worst headphone ever

[snow rover]

it's not

[civic arch]

they sound too sharp

ohh maybe the audio technica

is worse

athm50x

[snow rover]

m50x is also not even comfortable

[civic arch]

most comfortable headphones i have are sony mdr1

or the hd560s

the sonys are super old too

the hottest of hot in 2015 when i got them

[gleaming scaffold]

SHP 9500 is very comfortable

[civic arch]

philips?

[gleaming scaffold]

Yep

[civic arch]

damn i was thinking about those earlier

i could not find them

[snow rover]

discontinued

[gleaming scaffold]

They're pretty old

[gleaming scaffold]

Is it actually?

[snow rover]

yes

has been for multiple years

[gleaming scaffold]

That's a shame

Was crazy good value

[rapid lake]

https://amzn.eu/d/0j5ONZFH

what is amazon doing lmao

what kinda bundle is this

https://amzn.eu/d/0hGHwzHl

I'd consider this

the blue yeti is the go-to mic afaik

[civic arch]

the hd560s apparently has no bass

but it feels like its better than the planars

way better soundstage on them but the bass is weaker

[civic arch]

what

[rapid lake]

Sennheiser sells socks btw

[civic arch]

i need those

does it have the sennheiser logo on like the ankle part

so you can wear shorts and flex those socks

[rapid lake]

maybe

[civic cloud]

Bro has never used cheap headphones

[rapid lake]

I've used some knockoff beats that i got for $5

It's like, someone is pressing their hands against your ears and then shouting the sounds through the cracks in between their fingers

If I had to describe it

[civic cloud]

[civic arch]

i would rather use the sony xz110 than the dt770

[rapid lake]

Anyways that's not exactly a "deal", the hd560s alone are 100 pounds

[civic cloud]

Now youre just making up names

[civic arch]

https://www.sony.fi/electronics/pantakuulokkeet/mdr-zx110-zx110a-zx110ap

[civic cloud]

Awful name sony, back to the drawing board

They are automatically disqualified for being on ear headphones

[civic arch]

[civic cloud]

The stupid callcenter headset we got at work is also on ear

Hurts so bad after 1-2hrs

@rapid lake do you have a new place or are you just looking at stuff because you're bored?

[civic arch]

i actually used the xz110 they aint bad

always look for stuff to buy

[civic cloud]

Its an addiction

[civic arch]

my setup only needs a better monitor

rn its good

pc has ryzen 5 7500f and 7800xt with 180hz monitor rn

[rapid lake]

I'm just bored

[civic cloud]

Hi just bored, im gauss

[civic arch]

for audio its the hd560s and speakers are kali lp6v 2

[civic cloud]

1440p?

[civic arch]

yeah

[rapid lake]

Though we found another aptmnt

170sqm

[civic arch]

my next is probably gonna be 1080p tn tho

[civic cloud]

roomtour when

[civic arch]

i play alot of kovaaks and i could actually run it at 500hz

this 180hz aint bad even tho

[rapid lake]

didn't take any pictures

[gleaming scaffold]

zowie?

[civic cloud]

Why do you hate me

[civic arch]

i think aoc had one too which is cheaper

zowie is stupid expensive

[gleaming scaffold]

true

[civic arch]

always an option to get 360hz oled too

[quaint helm]

zowie wroth like shit

[rapid lake]

I'll show you mine once you show me yours

[civic arch]

360hz with oled response times probably insanely good for reactive

and tracking in general

[quaint helm]

dont be shy going towards asussy

if u like color + high hz

[civic cloud]

I should be able to move in about 2 months, considering the former renter already moved out and its just his lease still going

[civic arch]

is tn like on par with oled in terms of response

and ghosting

rn on 180hz i can see some

[rapid lake]

Ask him kindly to move in early

I'm sure he'll say yes

[civic arch]

24" is better for gaming i feel like

[gleaming scaffold]

ye the motion clarity and latency is real good on TN monitors

[civic cloud]

out*
Its more about the facility management being slow
Ive terminated my lease last monday and im yet to receive a confirmation or new contract for the new apartment

[civic arch]

27" is super big

[gleaming scaffold]

but it just looks like shit

[rapid lake]

For you to move in I mean

[civic arch]

who cares if it means i can see clearly

[civic cloud]

well idk when hes doing the handover with facility management where they check for damages etc

[rapid lake]

If I was moving before my lease ended I'd hand the keys over whenever I move out ngl

[rapid lake]

Germany

[gleaming scaffold]

true if i was playing a comp game i would def prefer a 1080p TN over a 1440 OLED

[civic cloud]

You pay a security deposit and only get it back after the check

[rapid lake]

Facility management companies lowkey a scam

[civic cloud]

They are

[rapid lake]

You never fully get it back though do you

They always be nitpicking

[civic cloud]

Nah i got it back just fine last (and first) time

Ive put a lot of scratches and dents into the floor here tho, so i hope they dont see it

[rapid lake]

How many holes did you have to fill

[civic cloud]

I havent filled them yet, i still live here...but total should be over 50

[rapid lake]

💀

[quaint helm]

tf

[civic cloud]

Things really add up quickly

[rapid lake]

Woodworking inside a studio is not exactly ideal is it

[civic cloud]

None of these happened from that

[rapid lake]

Moving furniture around?

[civic cloud]

The scratches are from moving furniture around despite the furniture having these lil fabric gliders

[rapid lake]

Ngl

[civic cloud]

And the worst dent was me hitting the floor with a hammer and also dropping a TV cabinet door while mounting it

[rapid lake]

Floors need sanding every couple years regardless

[civic cloud]

Yeah im not worried about the scratches

[rapid lake]

So it don't really matter

[civic cloud]

But the dent is bad

[rapid lake]

At least you didn't break the tile

[civic cloud]

Finger for scale

[rapid lake]

I dropped a jar of something on the ground once and it fully ripped part of the tile

[civic cloud]

I still need to try the ironing trick on this

[civic cloud]

Heck

[rapid lake]

I believe it was some type of ceramic

not wood

[civic cloud]

Changing tiles is a major pain

[quaint helm]

what did u do lma

[rapid lake]

the jar didn't break

[civic cloud]

Hit the floor with a hammer

[rapid lake]

Finding identical design is kinda hard

We had a few spare ones

[quaint helm]

[civic cloud]

Thats why you buy more and keep some in storage

[rapid lake]

Yeah, ofc

[rapid lake]

I would advise you to not do that

[civic arch]

when playing cs2 on 27" it feels too big

i play with black bars so the image is smaller rn

i dont have to tilt my head to see the radar

[rapid lake]

you're a freak

[civic cloud]

I will try to avoid it in the future

[rapid lake]

play 1440x1080 stretched

goated res

[gleaming scaffold]

yeah u gotta move ur eyes a lot more, 24 inch helps with peripheral vision

[civic arch]

idk my res rn

[rapid lake]

I played on that res with 27 inch curved VA

[civic arch]

i just picked the one that made the picture good size

[rapid lake]

It was fine but I'm just bad at the game

[civic arch]

stretched has its advantages too

[rapid lake]

Do your eyes not see the black bard anymore

[civic arch]

not really

i dont need to look at them

[rapid lake]

I tried going back to 16:9 after a while

[gleaming scaffold]

also lower res can be nice on comp games cuz u get thicker outlines on the enemies

[rapid lake]

It was awful

[civic arch]

16:9 after stretched feels like im shooting mf twigs

[rapid lake]

Everything's so thin

[civic arch]

yeah

[rapid lake]

lmao real

[civic arch]

also they look so tall and thin

[rapid lake]

Also stretched makes everything feel fast

But controlled

[civic arch]

16:10 is good too

slight stretch

[rapid lake]

Vertical stretch

[civic arch]

i only play kovaaks these days mostly

no teammates to ruin my performance

[rapid lake]

You play an aim trainer?

[civic arch]

and i can listen to music and not miss any sound cues

[rapid lake]

[civic arch]

its fun

usually kovaaks then snowrunner

[rapid lake]

Play drg

[civic arch]

a bit of trucking never hurt anyone

[rapid lake]

I'll want to buy a new wheel once I move in

the g29 was kinda ass ngl

[civic arch]

snowrunner is super slow tho

its not like eurotruck

[rapid lake]

I haven't tried snowrunner

I've played mudrunner though it's nice

[civic arch]

its offroading and it can be delicate

[rapid lake]

It did keep me on edge though

[ionic lodge]

good game with friends

[primal carbon]

Road kings is gonna be fire

[rapid lake]

Yeah I would assume

Solo was kind of a nightmare

[civic arch]

wheel would be so nice to have but take so much space

my room is not infinite space

[rapid lake]

Getting stuck meant wasting like 45 minutes driving around the slowest vehicle in the game to go and get myself out

[rapid lake]

I just put it on whenever I needed it

[civic arch]

snowrunner needs you to read the enviroment alot

beamng would be so fire on wheel too

[rapid lake]

I think an ideal setup for a wheel would be, main monitor on average desk, then second small desk with the second monitor being a TV and the wheel mounted on the desk

[civic arch]

geared wheels are kinda ass tho

direct drive is nice but expensive

[rapid lake]

there's the monza r3 or whatever it was

moza*

[civic arch]

maybe its an future upgrade i should make

i have already spend too much on this

[rapid lake]

Damn it's $400

[civic arch]

all the shit have is probablly like alot

go find a cheap car seat from a junkyard

then get some wood and build a seat

budget sim racing could be fun

[nova steppe]

I used the G920 for 5 years before I upgraded 😓

[rapid lake]

You're a legend

My soul would die a little bit every time I changed direction and the gears clicked together

Funnily enough the shifter was the best part of the setup and it's not even good

[quaint helm]

i actually wonder is there anyone who buy blade in 2026

man who the hell need 64gb might as well exchange it for some insane oled panel like lumina pro or something

[snow fiber]

Man have you tried opening more than 1 chrome tab

[upbeat spade]

i can't agree

the shifter is by far the worst part of logitech's entry level wheels, and you have to buy it separately on top of the wheel too
the worst part about the shifter is how easily it breaks, its internals are made of garbage plastic and it feels like a significantly lower standard of quality compared to the wheel itself
i think you'd genuinely be better off buying a shifter off aliexpress than the logitech shifter

the wheel itself is decent despite being gear driven
it's proven this by being like a two decade old design and still being good enough for people to use for ten years

people who didn't buy the shifter would probably disparage the pedal set instead because of the stupid foam pad in the brake pedal

the r3 is great, but it's like double the price of the g920 and you have to buy not only a shifter on top of it, but also a clutch pedal
and if coming from the g920, i'd rather move into an r5 instead

[pearl notch]

I asked this the other day but I’ll ask again since I was basically ignored what’s some good handhelds on the market was looking into rog ally’s and steam decks but the battery life on a steam deck is absolutely ahhh

[upbeat spade]

ayn thor

i haven't kept up with the ally ever since it released, i'm also curious how it is

[pearl notch]

Ik there’s plenty more options other than those 2 but 🤷🏻‍♂️ I’m not a huge pc head so idk what I should truly be looking into for a decent handheld and don’t feel like dropping 1k on something I’m not gonna like

[upbeat spade]

between the steam deck oled and ally x, you'd choose the steam deck oled because you want to play less demanding games and just want it to work, and you'd get the ally x if you want to run more demanding games

i think that's the starting point for thinning down what you want from the device: what exactly do you plan on playing on it

steam deck suffering the consequence of running on nearly 5 year old hardware, huh

[pearl notch]

Well I’d enjoy playing anything I can’t on console for start that really one of the reasons I’m staying away from rig ally Xbox edition cause I can just play at home probably more like pokemon rom hacks or stuff along those lines I’m not looking to play big AAA titles on a handheld I’m trying to be more realistic I just know from everybody who either has or had a steam deck the battery life isn’t the best

[upbeat spade]

i think the oled actually has decent battery life compared to other handhelds, and overall it's probably the best choice for someone who isn't playing demanding games and needs to run around a lot more
the ally x is more than just xbox integration, so i wouldn't compare it to having an xbox - it's called ally xbox because it comes with windows and can do whatever an xbox does on top of its normal functions

[pearl notch]

Well and you can stream from your Xbox but I really don’t wanna change my settings to make my Xbox stay on 24/7

[rapid lake]

Good thing with the steam deck is you don't have to rebuy all your games

[upbeat spade]

but if you're just playing something like old pokemon games and rom hacks, legit you might rather get something like a miyoo handheld

[rapid lake]

Oh nvm... you're on xbox

[upbeat spade]

yeah but it's a standalone device, you don't need to use your xbox just because you own the ally x

[pearl notch]

I’m willing to rebuy whatever tbh idc

[pearl notch]

That is true

[upbeat spade]

you don't need to rebuy your games on any handheld unless it's a switch all of them can open steam, hell you could run bazzite or steamos instead of windows on the ally

[pearl notch]

So the steam deck oled would be okay if I’m just playing like rom hacks and lil bs like that?

I just don’t wanna spend this much money on something I could just go buy a pc for ya know

[upbeat spade]

yyyyeeeeah

honestly if you're literally just playing old pokemon games, i'd get a miyoo for like 80 bucks instead

i think those big handhelds only make sense because you want to play pc games on them

[pearl notch]

Ima look that up hold on

I high key always forget those things exist 💀

[upbeat spade]

yeah if you're not planning to play your pc games on the go and you're planning on emulating old handheld games, you're better off getting one of these retro emulators instead

cheaper and more convenient, unless you really value a larger screen (that imo, you shouldn't if you're playing retro games that came on older handhelds anyways)

[pearl notch]

I mean I would like to have the option later to download stuff like spider man or something but as of rn I just kinda want something I can get rom hacks on I own or will own most of the older gba pokemon games once I get my new gba sp

[upbeat spade]

damn bruh if you're getting a gba what you doing asking about modern handhelds

[pearl notch]

Can’t play rom hacks on a gba

[upbeat spade]

it's like me wanting to get an ayn thor to play ds games but i have a dsi, dsixl, and 3ds so there's no point in it

guess so

[pearl notch]

I’m not talking about like main stream rom hacks I wanna play some of the fan made games like pokemon team rocket

[upbeat spade]

yeah something like what miyoo puts out would be right for those games

[pearl notch]

Ye I’ll have to look into that more for sure! Thanks for the feedback 🙏🏻

Another reason I asked about big name handhelds is also because I’m used to my switch oled screen size but I guess that doesn’t really matter if I’m buying a gba

[upbeat spade]

save you a couple hundred bucks buying a steam deck just to play retro games think about modern handhelds later down the road when you plan on playing pc games on the go, if your plan is just emulating retro games like <6th gen pokemon or rom hacks then it makes far more sense to get a retro emulator

[pearl notch]

Fair enough those probably are a better bang for my buck vs dropping 1k on a steam deck to play emulators 💀

[upbeat spade]

switch 😭 i'm still struggling to understand why people are buying the re-released fr/lg when you could get the rom and emulate it instead

guess people don't have gba's and old ds hardware anymore

[pearl notch]

But in the future I do plan on making the move to pc at some point Xbox is moving towards that anyway and everyone else is the console game is kinda moving weird currently

[upbeat spade]

easier to buy into nostalgia when it works right out of the game store

[pearl notch]

Since I don’t own a pc I cant emulate and $20 vs the typical 250-350 for an old pokemon game is easy snag on switch

[upbeat spade]

that's true, it only seems obvious to me because i've emulated old pokemon games on pc and on my phone

guess it is way more accessible for most people to just buy the port

[pearl notch]

Ye I don’t think an iPhone is the best for emulating either

[upbeat spade]

you can do it, i can't quite remember but i think i've emulated on my ipod touch 4 before

would even say that it should be easier now than it was before

[pearl notch]

Hmmm gotta look into that too I just figured the phones were like the computers and not great for gaming what so ever

[upbeat spade]

reddit might be able to help you out with finding some emulation apps

if you want to emulate ps games, i believe ios has had ppsspp for a while for example

for gba/ds i think it's delta

[pearl notch]

Anyway I’d like to thank you again for the feed back but it’s going on 5:30 pm and I’ve been up since 2:30am I’m sick and worked a 12 hour shift today ima probably play a bit of fr on my switch and crash I will take everything you’ve said into consideration as I research and choose what ima buy

[upbeat spade]

ye good evening and rest well

and since i'm a nerd, i'm still going to look at the ayn thor...

[pearl notch]

I’ll probably look into a few different things ngl

I really wanna play 5th gen pokemon games but I’m not paying $500 for pokemon black

Is the Thor the one that looks like a Ds

[upbeat spade]

yeh

[upbeat spade]

i was gifted white i believe

haven't played it yet, still has the previous owner's save

i also got heartgold with it which i haven't finished playing through

partially because i have no time, partially because it's two regions in one game, and partially because johto progression suckass

[pearl notch]

The pokemon added are so tuff tho 😆

[upbeat spade]

but i don't wanna spend like ten hours grinding just to face the e4 😡 why did they make it so bad

[pearl notch]

Loool I’ve always enjoyed gen 2 but gen 3 will always have my heart fr lg ruby sapphire and emerald

Not a single bad game in the lot

[upbeat spade]

yeah

ten years ago i emulated and played through fr and emerald on my phone

gotta be the most convenient pokemon games to play

[pearl notch]

IMO emerald has to be the best game made

I’ve never played past gen 4

So I hear gen 5 is also super good just never experienced it when they came out I wasn’t really playing pokemon anymore

[upbeat spade]

same, i played d/p/p but when b/w came out i couldn't afford it, and by the time i could i had already lost interest in pokemon

i'm excited to try white now that i own it, but i gotta finish hg first lol

[civic cloud]

Heart Gold was SICK, two maps for the price of one AND a fun little pokewalker gadet????? Insane value

also an actual bossfight at the end of the game????

[pearl notch]

I mean Ik it’s basically the same but I always preferred soul silver I like lugia over hooh

[pearl notch]

Wasn’t the pokewalkers main feature for like eggs

[upbeat spade]

when it came out i remember thinking it was the coolest thing ever but i would never get it 😔 now i have hg but i don't have the pokewalker which is even sadder

[upbeat spade]

i don't think you could put an egg in it

[pearl notch]

Super hard to find if you aren’t willing to pay out the ahh for it

Pretty sure if you had the egg in your party your steps counted as player steps

[upbeat spade]

yeah it's really hard to find now, and what's curious about the pokewalker is that it's actually the one of the most accurate pedometers ever made

it's really weird how they made a toy that is better than actual pedometers but if you ever wanted to actually count your steps, there ya go

[pearl notch]

Well that’s interesting

[upbeat spade]

it's pretty huge

one of the most accurate pedometers ever made, and it incentivizes you to walk by gamifying the system and allowing you to take your pokemon out with you?

forget pokemon go, there's no better way to get people fit

[pearl notch]

All this pokemon talk makes me wanna go back and watch indigo league

[upbeat spade]

a shame they only made the pokewalker for two games in a single generation

[pearl notch]

Probably due to sale issues it definitely increased the price of the game if i remember you could just buy hg or ss without it