tech-coding-math

[rapid lake]

@lost fossil Can I not install any firmware I want on my existing router though and then configure that?

[lost fossil]

you can look up your router model and see if there's openwrt available for it

[rapid lake]

OpenWrt has firmware for my router

[lost fossil]

[rapid lake]

[lost fossil]

try flashing it

[rapid lake]

ayo

I'll try and hopefully I don't brick it

[lost fossil]

read the keikaku carefully and do it according to keikaku

[rapid lake]

agh this is wr1300, mine is wr1200

goddamn

My router doesn't even have USB

lmao

[lost fossil]

sadge

[cold elbow]

Mikrotik my beloved

[rapid lake]

Melon

Why do you do so much networking stuff when you’re a mechanical engineer

[cold elbow]

Civil engineer doing mechanical engineering work and knows about IT

I ask myself that everyday

[rapid lake]

Oh you’re civil

https://tenor.com/view/ricky-montgomery-its2016somewhere-settle-down-gif-25395928

[cold elbow]

Donno what im doing with my life tbh

[rapid lake]

Having many skills is good

But I wouldn’t want to be labelled an IT guy and work in a different field of engineering

Jack of all trades master of none type thing

[cold elbow]

My true title is a Helldiver

[kindred vapor]

hold on that's me

[sterile cliff]

its sad we didnt win cyberstan

but we did rescue the 77th so yay

[quaint helm]

anyone's whatsapp have issue recently idk why i keep getting 2FA code although i didnt log in from new device

[civic cloud]

someone is trying to log into your account

[quaint helm]

got a saudi kind of word lol

must be u two @rapid lake @thin turtle 100% u two

[civic cloud]

that's racist

[snow gazelle]

remove 2FA. problem solved

[thin turtle]

I am shawn now

[lost fossil]

the wording

[quaint helm]

why is the first male header to 2nd male header so short

[lost fossil]

bc presumably the fans that you connect through this splitter all come from roughly the same place in the case so the cable length in the end is roughly the same

[civic cloud]

Good evening tech chat

[exotic patrol]

hey gaussianer

[quaint helm]

100$ for a wd blue nvme consider good during this ai bullshit time?

[nova steppe]

2TB?

[brave field]

insufficient interface, pffft

3 fans is plenty, reject the RGB fan 5-pack-for-$150 propaganda

[nova steppe]

Accept 5-pack for $20-25 from arctic

[civic cloud]

hello comfy

[quaint helm]

1

[lost fossil]

such an embarrassment tho

[brave field]

very embarrassing

[nova steppe]

If it's gen 4 or 5 it's okay™, but if it's gen 3 that's wild

[civic cloud]

1TB is low-key not worth it unless you need storage NOW

Might as well save up a lil and get 2TB so the drive isn't full after you install CoD

[snow rover]

good thing i don't install cod

[lost fossil]

cod

[quartz kayak]

hi

[ivory crypt]

I need a bit of help. When I turn my Xbox on, it starts like squeaking and like chirping for some reason, then when I unplug it, it stops. I don’t know how to fix it, I left it unplugged all night last night and it kept doing it again. Please help

[quaint helm]

too bad its gen3 lmao these are the option (divide by 4 and u get USD price)

[rapid lake]

Probably the fan?

[rapid lake]

Why are the WD cheaper than the kingston lol

$100 for any 1tb is good rn unless it’s adata

[quaint helm]

ionno

[compact mica]

can i do something with this or no
m2 nvme

[nova steppe]

Yeah man, just pop it right back in the system it came from. The fans will help spread the smokey aroma

[quaint helm]

bbq flavor

[compact mica]

more like ssd flavor

when i'll be wanting to get my own pc for birthday should i just get an office pc with 16gb ram and buy a dedicated gpu like rtx 3050 8gb

my budget will be probably around 300$ but ill have more money probably after i'll sell some parts like 2x16 gb ddr4 from my pc at my dad's

so like 400-450$

[nova steppe]

If time isn't an issue, just save for an actual platform you can upgrade and take into the future. A few office PCs have proprietary power connectors, so keep that in mind if you go that route, anyway

[compact mica]

alright

[tall wraith]

Where's the job finding channel?

[rapid lake]

Why would you sell that RAM?

[compact mica]

money 🤑💰

my ass is greedy

me want monyyyy

[compact mica]

would this be a good deal for around 360$

[civic cloud]

That's not just last gen, that's pre last gen

Basically useless for anything other than a streaming pc

[quaint helm]

pre-pre last gen

[civic cloud]

fr

[rapid lake]

But you want to build a PC?

Just use them lol

[compact mica]

yes

[rapid lake]

Hell no

[compact mica]

im gonna upgrade the ram dw

also i got one 500gb sata ssd and one 1 tb hdd

[rapid lake]

I wish onlynthe RAM was the issue

You’re not playing games on that on 1080p medium

[civic cloud]

only a handful of games

[rapid lake]

If he closes discord maybe

Otherwise his RAM will max out

[cold elbow]

Would run better on Linux

[rapid lake]

"only"

[thin turtle]

crazy offer

[civic cloud]

omg it's that gold gpu

[quaint helm]

color only

wait a min at no way a 5090 cost 4.7 at this current bullshit time with 6gram of gold

[rapid lake]

The normal rog astral is 4k

[quaint helm]

not sure is this website trustable but aint no way that gpu sub 5k lmao

[rapid lake]

Yes a gram of gold is about 165

The price makes sense?

GPU alone about 3.8k + the gold price

[compact mica]

yeah the only thing this can handle at 4k is the blue screen (35$)

[civic cloud]

Firma

[compact mica]

company

[civic cloud]

Yes

But why is the polish word the same as the German word

fucking copycats

[quaint helm]

big hater is back

[civic cloud]

How would things improve if you don't complain about them

[quaint helm]

tru

anyways

[lost fossil]

even nv2?

[lost fossil]

he's true

[cold elbow]

Stop complaining and suggest a solution

[lost fossil]

there's probably a historical reason for it iygwis

[civic cloud]

iygwis

[quaint helm]

theres a way 🤓 throwback time jkjkjk

[civic cloud]

Why do I feel like y'all are mad racist rn

[lost fossil]

because i'm racing rn

[quaint helm]

a pro racist racer

[rapid lake]

iygwis

[civic cloud]

Thank you Hadi for repeating me

[rapid lake]

Are you calling me a repeater

[civic cloud]

yes

[rapid lake]

Damn

Am I TP Link at least

[civic cloud]

no, chinesium off brand

[rapid lake]

[quaint helm]

welcome

[civic cloud]

Finish your engineering bachelor and you can be a brand name repeater 🔥

[rapid lake]

@civic cloud want some

[lost fossil]

what is this poopoo stuff in my TECH CODING METH channel

[civic cloud]

What's that

Looks unhealthy

My body is a temple

[quaint helm]

bunch of disgrace lol

its food but i also dk what it is

[quaint helm]

TECH CAT AND METH

fork coding

FORK

[thin turtle]

what about me

[void turret]

Edible poopoo

[kindred vapor]

send him a warning

[civic cloud]

BAN HIS ASS

[proven oak]

p00p

[rapid lake]

oooh you'd love some of this

and I'd give it to you unlike gauss, dissing my desserts

[vagrant crown]

Looks kinda like a sweaty churros

But they’ve made it look like the fake poo’s.

What’s the jelly looking thing in the corner?

[thin turtle]

[void turret]

If the other one is "poop"
I guess the jelly comes from the opposite side

[rapid lake]

They are basically churros

They look like that because they’re dipped in sugar syrup

And they’re still fresh

The other’s a similar dough but it holds syrup inside

So when you bite into it it explodes in your mouth

I agree they’re not shaped properly, first time trying this place

[rapid lake]

https://youtube.com/shorts/7TKBcC8oynw?si=tttYibtjjbXZ1Q5Y

@civic cloud u need this

[civic cloud]

instant diabetes

[civic cloud]

i feel like these would build up dirt in the gaps so fast in the kitchen

every time you wipe it gets a lil dirtier

the ideal kitchen and bathroom should be pressure washable

[civic cloud]

160 per sqm is criminal

this is the most expensive tile at the local hardware store, for comparison

30-60€/sqm is normal

[thin turtle]

that woman is short

[civic cloud]

@cold elbow Beat his ass

[thin turtle]

me when

[cold elbow]

The fact that he's calling a 165 cm short 😭

[thin turtle]

it is

as a 6'7 man

[civic cloud]

youre 175 at best

[thin turtle]

that would still be way taller than 165

[cold elbow]

Nah

[thin turtle]

10cm is a lot

[cold elbow]

Maybe for you

[civic cloud]

[rapid lake]

Even that is expensive wtf

[civic cloud]

i didnt look for the cheapest possible deal ok

[rapid lake]

It’s above average

[thin turtle]

what are you talking about

10 cm is below eye level

you would not see that person

short

[tidal plume]

I don't know who’s worse, AI bros or anti-AI warriors

[thin turtle]

warner bros

[civic cloud]

AI bros

[thin turtle]

so from the bottom to about eye socket is 123mm

from the chin

if the face is 240mm tall

then that's at eye level

but that's a long ass face

but still

being able to see someone scalp makes them feel very short

[civic cloud]

cursed

[rapid lake]

Ain’t reading allat icl

@civic cloud show me your walls

[thin turtle]

this is why I am blocking you

wasting my time

[rapid lake]

I did some research and it looks like our walls throughout the whole house are painted with stucco or venetian plaster that’s why they’re like this

[cold elbow]

Yes but females are generally shorter than males so your argument is invalid

[tidal plume]

You can't just "make AI not lie". Even if training data is 100% accurate and it has live access to the internet, AI can and will still tend to hallucinate.

[rapid lake]

But apparently I can just do some light sanding then prime and apply whatever paint I want

[rapid lake]

Better than spending money on a mobo and arctic P12s

[thin turtle]

so

[rapid lake]

I wanna see up close

Is it smooth or matte

Or just normal paint

[thin turtle]

that doesn't make 10 cm any less significant

is this rage bait

[rapid lake]

Idk if that’s because it’s dark but it looks off-white

I don’t like just white looks bland

[thin turtle]

omg bedrock

[cold elbow]

Next gus will wall mount his pc desk

[civic cloud]

It's just concrete with plaster and paint on top

It's normal white

[thin turtle]

that's cream

[civic cloud]

Pic of an old drill hole

[civic cloud]

The light is orange

[thin turtle]

oh

[civic cloud]

That wouldn't be height adjustable

[rapid lake]

Eww

[cold elbow]

Why wouldn't it be?

[civic cloud]

wdym Ew, it's just a white wall

[rapid lake]

Disgusting

Very rough

[civic cloud]

because there's no B2C solution for a wall mounted height adjustable desk

[cold elbow]

Then

Make one

[civic cloud]

no

[thin turtle]

I will sell you mine

[cold elbow]

You are the engineer

[rapid lake]

Build the desk into the wall

Have the actual rails in the wall

[civic cloud]

dude smoother concrete walls cost so much more, aint nobody spending that just to paint over them

[thin turtle]

like the elevator chair thing

[rapid lake]

L walls bro

Cope

[civic cloud]

im moving in like 1 year

not worth it

[rapid lake]

But hey at least they’re not blue like mine

[civic cloud]

sorry but i cant hear your complaints through these 20cm concrete walls

[cold elbow]

You probably excited

[rapid lake]

You think your walls are thick?

I don’t live in america

Our walls are thick too

[civic cloud]

i think my walls are properly insulated

[cold elbow]

German walls are something else

[thin turtle]

you walls are held at gunpoint though

[rapid lake]

Talk about insulation

[civic cloud]

i can heat my apartment by beeing in the room and turning on my pc

not gaming

[rapid lake]

The window we opened recently in my room has been leaking water despite filling every possible hole with silicone from the outside

[civic cloud]

its in the walls

youre cooked

[thin turtle]

your room must be chilly guss

[civic cloud]

its 24C

[rapid lake]

Mfw I never have to adjust the temperature because it’s always good in lebanon

[thin turtle]

isn't the gpu water cooled

[civic cloud]

yeah ive already been looking at apartments but its too early

[thin turtle]

how does it get that hot

[cold elbow]

Thermal expansion 😭

[civic cloud]

werent you telling us about your insane electrical bill because of your AC recently?

talk about "good temperature"

[rapid lake]

I don’t have AC in my room

[tawny totem]

Hi people of tech

[civic cloud]

hi

[thin turtle]

hi luka

[rapid lake]

But we do turn on the AC at work which also uses the home electrical line

[tawny totem]

I think it may be impossible to fit a monitor arm into my room

[rapid lake]

Which adds like $100 to the bill

[civic cloud]

wait you live right above the pharmacy you work at?

[rapid lake]

Across the street

[cold elbow]

My pc idling is keeping the room warm, it's like -14 outside

[tawny totem]

I dont know tbh

[civic cloud]

not anymore

[rapid lake]

We also use the same water line, but the other way around

[civic cloud]

why? if you can fit a monitor on your desk you can also fit a monitor arm

[rapid lake]

Inefficient as hell but the water in our building is really unreliable

[nova steppe]

you scratchin your back on the wall like a bear, or what? the texture doesn't matter that much unless you're really close up, or have a bright/shiny paint that lets you see all the little contours in light

[rapid lake]

[thin turtle]

just use the monitor legs

[cold elbow]

What

[civic cloud]

shiny paint should be banned

only weird people dream of living in a room with latex looking walls

[rapid lake]

Yeah I have a ritual where I scratch my back against the wall every night

[nova steppe]

nice

[rapid lake]

Your PC must be hoot

[cold elbow]

Nah

It uses like 100 watts idling

[nova steppe]

🦉

[civic cloud]

100? yikes

[rapid lake]

That’s a lot though

[cold elbow]

Yeah cus two monitors and stuff

[nova steppe]

the monitor(s) also contribute to heat

[thin turtle]

is your room comically small

[civic cloud]

ok you count the monitors

[rapid lake]

Ah with the monitors

[nova steppe]

[cold elbow]

No

[rapid lake]

Mine is probably around the same then

[civic cloud]

can you reach two opposite walls when you stretch your arms out

[thin turtle]

I wish I could measure the whole setup consumption

[rapid lake]

GPU uses 15 watts, cpu about the same and two monitors

[cold elbow]

Ryzen cpus are so efficient especially x3D

[rapid lake]

You can

[thin turtle]

I think it would be in the 400s

[nova steppe]

my monitor that died would sit at 30c all the time

[thin turtle]

maybe more

[cold elbow]

Buy a meter

[rapid lake]

There’s a device you put over the cable and it gives you the amerpage

[tawny totem]

Like a dual one, but i need a desk clamp

[thin turtle]

I don't trust these

[cold elbow]

Why the hell not

[tawny totem]

As a wall mount or drilling hole inzo desk not an option

[rapid lake]

Dunno what it’s called

[thin turtle]

very funny looking

[nova steppe]

yes... they can come with those

[civic cloud]

literally what i have and what costs like 50€ on amazon

[tawny totem]

Yes but my window plank obstructs the side from the wall

[cold elbow]

That one not accurate

[thin turtle]

multimeter

[cold elbow]

A meter that you plug things in is more reliable

[civic cloud]

send a setup pic because nobody understands your problem rn

[thin turtle]

I will buy a UPS

[cold elbow]

Ok and

[nova steppe]

there are also side-mounted stands. like gauss said, not really seeing the issue rn

[thin turtle]

then

[tawny totem]

Like my whole desk is like this

[thin turtle]

it will tell me

the wattage

[cold elbow]

Probably not

[civic cloud]

what am i looking at

[nova steppe]

mine does

[thin turtle]

I'm waiting for this battery breakthrough

donut labs

[tawny totem]

A desk, and a window plank thingy

Above the desk

[cold elbow]

They usually give shit like a percentage or amper

[thin turtle]

they might be scamming us but we'll see

[thin turtle]

well

[nova steppe]

mine gives Input/Output voltage, Frequency, Battery runtime, and Wattage

[thin turtle]

S = I*V

then

[cold elbow]

[thin turtle]

find the power factor

[cold elbow]

Coool

[thin turtle]

and calculate P

[civic cloud]

must suck to live in a country where you need an UPS

[rapid lake]

@thin turtle

Wtf why are they so expensive

[cold elbow]

U need a ups everywhere, if you care about you computer.

[tawny totem]

@civic cloud so... thoughts?

[thin turtle]

true

[tawny totem]

What is a ups

I can only think of the delivery service

[nova steppe]

the power here is such shit quality that the lights in our hall would dim when our neighbor two houses down used their table saw

[civic cloud]

yeah i cant really recognize much on that image so

[thin turtle]

big battery for computer

[civic cloud]

goddamn

[nova steppe]

it's so dirty, power factor is shit

[tawny totem]

Need one with a um

[cold elbow]

Uninterruptable power supply or something

[tawny totem]

Light on?

[thin turtle]

put a capacitor in parallel

[civic cloud]

theres no blackouts so why bother with a UPS

[thin turtle]

ez

[cold elbow]

Grid problems

[civic cloud]

ok my pizza is ready, imma go eat bye

[nova steppe]

bai

[civic cloud]

not existant

[cold elbow]

Or some dumbass in your building does something

Or you fk up something

[civic cloud]

i fucked up by turning off the power strip before turning my PC off :D

[thin turtle]

your computer is insignificant

[civic cloud]

happened 2-3 times already

[thin turtle]

dw about it

[civic cloud]

no u

[cold elbow]

I mean... if you only game then it's ok

[thin turtle]

no data corruption ?

I must be very unlucky then

I got my shit corrupted on the first try

[cold elbow]

Skrill issue

[thin turtle]

everything was gone

smh

[cold elbow]

????

Everything how?

[thin turtle]

like

all the apps

only windows stayed

[nova steppe]

tf

test it again, turn it off rn

[cold elbow]

The worst thing that could happen is a corrupted file that can lead a corrupted boot loader or something

[thin turtle]

😟

bro I have some important stuff

[nova steppe]

and

[rapid lake]

Lol

Meanwhile my PC gets powercut every day basically

[thin turtle]

it will get removed

[rapid lake]

Weak PCs in Oman

[nova steppe]

naaaah

[thin turtle]

maybe

[cold elbow]

Important stuff that he is keeping one copy from

[thin turtle]

it's not that important

but like kinda annoying to reproduce

[rapid lake]

If you use a RAID config does the other drive get corrupt aswell

[cold elbow]

@civic cloud

[rapid lake]

Uni?

[thin turtle]

yes

[rapid lake]

Keep on google drive

[cold elbow]

This question is a rabbit hole

[rapid lake]

You also have the mc server on there

[thin turtle]

lemme flip the switch rn

[rapid lake]

That’s important

Calm down

[thin turtle]

it wasn't even a power cuttoff

[rapid lake]

You’re just dumb?

[thin turtle]

I pressed the power button because it was frozen

[cold elbow]

Raid has many types so it depends on which one you are using

[thin turtle]

for like hours

[rapid lake]

I haven’t researched ngl

[tawny totem]

Hi

[rapid lake]

I first need more actual storage

Then I’ll think about backup

[thin turtle]

the computer overreacted

[cold elbow]

Raid 0 is dangerous

[nova steppe]

"I like to live on the edge"

[cold elbow]

Yes

[thin turtle]

what's raid do

[tawny totem]

Uhh

I am thinking about learning PHP

[nova steppe]

[tawny totem]

But ngl i forgot what it does

[cold elbow]

Splits your data to two drives

[tawny totem]

😭

[cold elbow]

So it can grab them faster

[thin turtle]

omg the guy from brawlhala

[cold elbow]

But if one drive dies then data on both drives are useless

[rapid lake]

Huh

[cold elbow]

Raid 1 is mirroring

U basically have the same data on two drives

One drive dies you have all the data on the second

[thin turtle]

this on the level of one physical disk?

[nova steppe]

in terms of speed?

[thin turtle]

you said the program split the data into different drives

on the same disk?

or

[cold elbow]

Raid 5 gives you speed and redundancy, it's cool
U can lose one drive and be safe

[nova steppe]

raid 0 is the split

[cold elbow]

Raid 6 is the same but you can lose two drives and you are safe

[thin turtle]

[nova steppe]

raid involves multiple drives

[thin turtle]

how do you lose a drive

[nova steppe]

it dies

[thin turtle]

what's a drive here

the partition

[nova steppe]

hard drive

[thin turtle]

oh

[cold elbow]

You hit it with an axe

[thin turtle]

isn't that the normal behaviour though

[nova steppe]

you cart it through a bumpy parking lot

[thin turtle]

two physically separated drives

[cold elbow]

You can combine them with raid

Make them behave as one storage

[thin turtle]

sussy

[rapid lake]

That’s the one I’ve heard of

Second drive is untouched aside from just writing data to it

[cold elbow]

Raid 1 is super safe but... reduces your total storage to 50%

[thin turtle]

so you want local disk c to be the total storage

[nova steppe]

[cold elbow]

That's a partition not a drive

[nova steppe]

forget drive letters

[thin turtle]

😭

I will stop interacting with this topic

too sweaty

[civic cloud]

i have a good psu :3

[cold elbow]

...

[thin turtle]

that doesn't do shit

[rapid lake]

Wait

[thin turtle]

PSU is a transformer basically

[rapid lake]

Can you use a hard drive or is that gonna bottlneck everything and cause problems

[thin turtle]

and rectifier

[nova steppe]

raid started with hard drives

[civic cloud]

i cant hear you over all my files still existing

[thin turtle]

and filter

and

[rapid lake]

SSD as main + hdd for backup?

[thin turtle]

gauss what is your psu

[nova steppe]

don't mix drive types with raid, is i think a common sentiment

[rapid lake]

Aww

[nova steppe]

there are other files systems that do that better

[cold elbow]

Servers normally use lot of hard drives and some ssd for cache to make the thing super fast.

[civic cloud]

corsair 850 RMx

[thin turtle]

so I'm the only one

with 750W

[rapid lake]

I’ve seen that on LTT but like, in the end if you’re writing stuff at the maximum speed of the SSD won’t the HDDs still make everything slow

[thin turtle]

[civic cloud]

wasnt 750 the minimum recommendation for 3080s

[rapid lake]

Because the cache is full

[nova steppe]

you could have 650 and it wouldn't matter

[rapid lake]

[thin turtle]

it's like 600

[cold elbow]

Yeah, probably

[thin turtle]

but I have a intel

[civic cloud]

i remember the power spike controversy

[cold elbow]

For your case i think using a backup or sync is better

[rapid lake]

His CPU uses like 250 watts or something

[nova steppe]

obviously depending on components

[nova steppe]

i meant comparing power supply wattages doesn't matter

[rapid lake]

Ion got the financials to think about this rn but I’m just curious. When I find it suitable I’ll buy some 2tb HDDs or something and put 4 in the case

[nova steppe]

skip to 4 if you want actual capacity

[rapid lake]

Although

[nova steppe]

4 tb, not 4 drives

[thin turtle]

zamn

[rapid lake]

I wonder how "loud" they really are

[civic cloud]

audible

[nova steppe]

^

[rapid lake]

Because I don’t ever hear the HDDs at work until I shut off the PC

And the disk stops spinning

[cold elbow]

throw the server somewhere and forget about it

[nova steppe]

when it's cold in my room and my fans are quiet, my nas on my desk is more audible than my PC

[rapid lake]

Hmm

How fast are your drives

7200rpm?

[cold elbow]

yeah the only thing i hear from my pc is the ONE hard drive when it spins

[nova steppe]

the new 4tb i just got is 5400, but it has a lot of cache and is a nas drive

[rapid lake]

You’re a special case bro

[civic cloud]

id have replaced it by now, how can you endure such noise

[rapid lake]

No one’s PC as quiet as yours

[cold elbow]

its usually not spinning

[thin turtle]

so 181 + 320 = 501

and 249 for system

[rapid lake]

Honestly I can’t hear anything with headphones on without playing anything on them

[civic cloud]

wait for the passive cooling case people to show up

[rapid lake]

I’m only bothered when I need to keep my PC idle at night

And I wanna sleep

[cold elbow]

my pc gets a bit loud while gaming but idc cus headphones on

[thin turtle]

why do CPUs get irrelevant faster than GPUs

[cold elbow]

its built for maximum performance and lowest idle noise 😎

[civic cloud]

they dont, youre tweaking

[thin turtle]

they do

[nova steppe]

has there been any testing you've seen of the LFIII default and in push-pull? @cold elbow

[civic cloud]

prove it

[thin turtle]

anything from 2020 is irrelevant

yet you still use 3080

[civic cloud]

thats such a privileged statement

do you have no shame

[thin turtle]

no

[civic cloud]

mods, ban this man

[cold elbow]

fans near the case grill means turbulance noise so i would never do that

[thin turtle]

I only know facts

[nova steppe]

mmmmmmm

[jagged geode]

Anyone know if nvidia GPU is good for gaming?

[cold elbow]

also LFII keeping my cpu freezing

[thin turtle]

it is

[nova steppe]

it can be

[thin turtle]

very good

[civic cloud]

literally proved your "more people use brave than firefox" fact wrong like an hour ago

[thin turtle]

sometimes

[nova steppe]

I think I need my IHS lapped, because it was hot even with my old cooler

[thin turtle]

stat from april 2025

must have been a lie

[nova steppe]

i only idle below 40c if it's cold in my room

[cold elbow]

which cpu?

[nova steppe]

5800X3D

[cold elbow]

hmmmmmmm

[civic cloud]

q.e.d you dont know shite, probably not even what q.e.d means

[cold elbow]

dont bother much about idle temp, its the max is what you should care about

[nova steppe]

i know

[jagged geode]

Thank yall

[rapid lake]

[nova steppe]

it was over 80 under load, even with lower DVID

[rapid lake]

I wish sata ssds weren’t so god damn expensive still

[thin turtle]

I don't care about economic terminologies mr contractor

[cold elbow]

and are you measuring hot spot or average?

[civic cloud]

thats Latin you uncultured swine

[thin turtle]

dead

[nova steppe]

all sensors, per core, Tctl, Tdie, all can hit over 80

[thin turtle]

lingo

[civic cloud]

not as dead as you will be once im done with you

[cold elbow]

i have a 5700x3d and its usually max on 65C

[thin turtle]

😭

[thin turtle]

what do you mean

mods help

[cold elbow]

yeah i set my fans on the average sensor

[thin turtle]

I'm getting bay harbour butchered

[nova steppe]

my fans are set in bios because fancontrol didn't like my fans

[thin turtle]

as if the mods gonna stop the serial killer

[cold elbow]

oh

dang

[nova steppe]

I still need to take the fan hub out of my pc and wire the fans together

[civic cloud]

do it

[nova steppe]

I'm just going to see if I can get the radiator on the side intake instead of top exhaust

[cold elbow]

top better :D

[nova steppe]

what if there's a gap in front of the fans?

[nova steppe]

I need cooler intake, I think

[civic cloud]

depends on how large the gap is

noise is created by density fluctuations in air

[cold elbow]

it also depends on the shape of your case grill

[nova steppe]

it's very efficient at removing the heat, but then it soaks pretty easy once it's hot in my room

[civic cloud]

you could try some exhaust mods inspired by modern plane engines

[nova steppe]

i have an O11-D XL, so there's at least 1.5cm of a gap

[cold elbow]

my front fans have like 6 cm gab from the fan

1.5 sounds ok

[nova steppe]

I wanted to get a manifold that goes 360x120 to 120x120 to route the exhaust heat away

[civic cloud]

wave it up

[cold elbow]

thing is... you want more air for your rad.. but does your rad really needs more air?

[civic cloud]

also install some bypass so you can reduce the density difference faster

decrease noise

honestly you should just get a phd in fluid dynamics

[nova steppe]

I need cooler air

[thin turtle]

how much are these cabinet sized cases are

[cold elbow]

front top fan is doing that

[nova steppe]

the rad is on the left, and so there's closer to 3cm including the (removed) side panel

[thin turtle]

need me this for optimal airflow

or

[cold elbow]

but still if your aio is unable to pull the heat from the cpu then eh

[thin turtle]

it is an optical illusion

I got baited

[nova steppe]

i'm seeing nothing "special" but a perforated panel 😭

[cold elbow]

why not top mount

[thin turtle]

it looked big on the browser

[nova steppe]

it's top mounted rn, i was just showing the space

[civic cloud]

using camera tricks to make something look bigger? no way

[cold elbow]

i mean.. this could work if you make it intake

[nova steppe]

i'll just swap the side fans with static pressure fans instead of flow, and maybe it would work better

[cold elbow]

but push pull... dont think its needed

[thin turtle]

this one is actually big

[civic cloud]

quiz question for chat: why would you want a variable jet nozzle for your jet engine
https://imgur.com/variable-jet-nozzle-on-afterburning-turbojet-ZAsQMJD

[thin turtle]

right?

it looks cool

[civic cloud]

looks like a server, ugly

[thin turtle]

long ass gif

[nova steppe]

if this room was bigger, i'd honestly just consider an external rad

[civic cloud]

only the first few seconds are important, now answer the question

[cold elbow]

venturi effect

[thin turtle]

I didn't study fluid dynamics yet

[civic cloud]

no

[civic cloud]

i keep forgetting that you and hadi are baby engineers

[thin turtle]

turbulence ?

just like why they make cars longer from behind

so the doesn't affect the

[civic cloud]

if you go above mach 1 you need to change the shape of your nozzle

[civic cloud]

the diffusor on cars is usually useless and only for looks

[thin turtle]

why

[cold elbow]

No

It's not

[civic cloud]

yes it is

[nova steppe]

because fluid dynamics

[thin turtle]

[civic cloud]

fuck do i know

[thin turtle]

@cold elbow I'm blocking you and this troll

[cold elbow]

Ok and

[thin turtle]

just saying

[cold elbow]

Good to know

[thin turtle]

yes

but

why @civic cloud

I need to know

[nova steppe]

you could have found out by now by looking it up

[thin turtle]

he presented the question

he must give the answer

looking it up is boring

[civic cloud]

the question to the give? because fluid behaves differently above mach 1, thats why

so if you want your plane to go above mach 1 you need stuff like this

[thin turtle]

but not all jets have it

and they kinda do get over mach 1

or is it about efficiency

[cold elbow]

Amadeus pc will definitely reach mach 1

[nova steppe]

10 fans, btw

12, including the one on the vrm and chipset

[cold elbow]

Too much fans

[nova steppe]

I know.

[civic cloud]

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffusor_(Motorsport)
max angle is 15° so most commercial cars only have it for show

[civic cloud]

too many*

[nova steppe]

It stemmed from me buying 10 fans for $50 (those fans ran for $30/2 back then), and just filling all the slots I had in the pc just because I could

[cold elbow]

My car make some use from the diffusor and

Makes it more efficient

Faster

[nova steppe]

even skid plates can help

[cold elbow]

And stable

[civic cloud]

modern ones have it and older ones just lived with the much higher fuel usage

[cold elbow]

Some dude figure out that even the plastic strips on the cars doors that meant to protect the door from being slammed can improve car efficiency

[thin turtle]

mhm

[civic cloud]

see how ramjet and scramjet have a different nozzle

and when the SR71 was developed

[thin turtle]

but that contradicts your teachings

[civic cloud]

every lil gap and edge causes flow seperation

tldr: tape up your whole car with speed tape to improve efficiency

[cold elbow]

You said most cars have it for show

[civic cloud]

no it doesnt? you want a variable engine for flying at sub and super sonic speeds, unless you want to burn WAY more fuel

[thin turtle]

@civic cloud let's design a hybrid engine

[nova steppe]

hybrid rocket engine

[thin turtle]

yes

[civic cloud]

these are useless because they are too steep

[civic cloud]

do you have a 2 billion USD budget

[thin turtle]

turbojet below mach 1
then it magically morph into scramjet

[thin turtle]

I thought you did

[nova steppe]

is that second one an OEM option? it looks sloppy from porsche

[civic cloud]

no its a mod

just wanted to prove my point

[thin turtle]

I was talking not about defusers though

[nova steppe]

people just like to see the strakes

[thin turtle]

difuser

something

[nova steppe]

real motorsport ones are pretty flat

[thin turtle]

I meant the ass of the car

[nova steppe]

real™

[thin turtle]

longer ass

[civic cloud]

yeah because real motorsport engineers know that you need to stay under 15! angle (as wikipedia says)

[thin turtle]

better aerodynamics

or like

smoother ass

[thin turtle]

cybertruck vs the

[cold elbow]

This reminds me of the double diffusor chaos in f1

[nova steppe]

mclaren speedtail

[civic cloud]

outdated as fuck

[thin turtle]

@civic cloud

[thin turtle]

hi

[vagrant crown]

So submarine is better than tugboat, thanks for the info

[thin turtle]

notice how the car does not look like the ideal model

[thin turtle]

they are

[vagrant crown]

That’s why I thanked you

You’re very sassy today

[thin turtle]

no problem

[civic cloud]

the bottom row shows optimal models, see how the normal car has a lower cw value than what you drew

yes its sideways, deal with it

[thin turtle]

I'm sussy

[vagrant crown]

That as well

[civic cloud]

also good table

lower cw= better

great book if you want to learn about cars

[thin turtle]

I don't even speak spanish bro

[cold elbow]

Once again gus trying to prove a point with a language no one else here can read

[thin turtle]

he doesn't even send it in text format

[civic cloud]

idk how "lower cw=better" is hard to comprehend

[thin turtle]

we can't translate

[civic cloud]

omg just learn german

imagine trying to learn about cars but not speaking german

[thin turtle]

I have Hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia

[civic cloud]

nobody forces you to add all those words together in german

[thin turtle]

you looked it up

[civic cloud]

theres very little situations where you would say Stückzahlerhöhungsflieger or stuff like that

[thin turtle]

I feel appreciated

[civic cloud]

no i just remembered that the word for "fear of long words" is a ridiculous long word

so it was an educated guess :D

[thin turtle]

what about

ambulance

[civic cloud]

what

[thin turtle]

krankenwagen

[civic cloud]

yes

car for the sick

very descriptive

[thin turtle]

very lomg

[civic cloud]

no

[cold elbow]

I miss when germans used to make good reliable cars

Now they use Chinese engines

[civic cloud]

i miss the time when i still enjoyed gaming, but we cant have it all, eh?

[cold elbow]

Or french

[thin turtle]

mercedes is still fairly reliable

until the radiator breaks

[civic cloud]

just get an EV

[thin turtle]

nah

[cold elbow]

Lmao

No

[civic cloud]

you cant resist progress

[thin turtle]

I'm waiting for the battery breakthrough

[civic cloud]

youre looking like boomers who dont want to use the internet

[civic cloud]

idiot

[thin turtle]

something crazy might happen

[cold elbow]

Even EVs germans don't have good ones

[civic cloud]

no normal person drives 500km in one go

and theres EVs with 500km range

get real

[thin turtle]

commercialised solid state batteries

[civic cloud]

youre just bringing up decade old arguments because youre a lil shit

[thin turtle]

they would kill lithium ion batteries if this was half true

[civic cloud]

you can buy a tesla with 750km range rn

real life range will be a bit lower, but still adequate

[thin turtle]

I live in subzero temperature

[vagrant crown]

Tesla

[cold elbow]

You can buy a BYD with 2100 range km now for half the price

[civic cloud]

no you fucking dont and norway has mostly EVs

youre so stupid it hurts

[thin turtle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYiVfOpA8HU&pp=ygUdZG9udXQgbGFiIHNvbGlkIHN0YXRlIGJhdHRlcnk%3D

there's a battery industry drama going on rn

[civic cloud]

source? google only spits out 1350 as a shitty plug in hybrid

[thin turtle]

the guys at donut lab doubling down on their claims 😭

[civic cloud]

dont care, im not directly invested into battery companies

[cold elbow]

Google Seal 05

[thin turtle]

this news is like setting foot onto mars

[civic cloud]

thats a plug in hybrid and therefore punishable by death if you buy it

[thin turtle]

something very unrealistic for these days

[lost fossil]

it was at this moment that gauss knew - he should've boughted an inverted case

[thin turtle]

but they claim they did it

[cold elbow]

In Germany maybe.

[civic cloud]

youre right and i always hated the fact that cases are designed to be on the right side where you need space for your mouse

[civic cloud]

everywhere where people think about it for more than 1 second

[lost fossil]

so true

[thin turtle]

so what

the range drops considerably in cold temps

[civic cloud]

have you heard about HEATERS

[thin turtle]

no

[civic cloud]

youre too dumb to talk to, im done with you for today

[lost fossil]

that explains why my phone be discharging quickly in the past couple months

[cold elbow]

[thin turtle]

[civic cloud]

just do less gooning on it

my phones battery is so cooked that i barely make it to lunch if im at the office and theres nothing to do

[thin turtle]

that's because of the cold

where is your heater

[cold elbow]

Your phone still indoors not in the freezing cold outside

[thin turtle]

you dumb

[civic cloud]

you might not believe it but my office is not cold

@cold elbow ban this man for trolling, now way hes actually this stupid

[thin turtle]

oh yes

finally

[cold elbow]

Idk u mentioned battery dropping range in the cold
His argument is heaters
Heaters doesn't run without consuming power

[civic cloud]

yes but heating the battery costs you less range than letting it go cold

[cold elbow]

And qhat about a car parked for few days outside

[civic cloud]

that is a problem for poor people and nobody cares about them

[cold elbow]

Oh wow

Now we slandering poor people

[thin turtle]

you are not an engineer guss

you are a contractor

[civic cloud]

but it is unlikely for a car to be parked outside for several days without moving, since most people who own a car use it to drive to work...5 days a week

[civic cloud]

i have a bachelor of engineering, unlike you

be quiet

[thin turtle]

decorative

[civic cloud]

no thats ur brain

cuz you aint using it

[thin turtle]

[quaint helm]

move everything to ur left and place ur pc on ur right problem solved

[rapid lake]

Hey @thin turtle

Did you have to ask your ISP for a static public IP to port forward or did you have one already

Apparently my ISP doesn't give a public IP by default, so I can't port forward

[sterile cliff]

Arent mos ISP'S like that?

[rapid lake]

I don't know

[thin turtle]

I just had it

[thin turtle]

a public IP is a bad one

a private is gooder

public I think means it's common and you connect through an alias

or something weird

that's why it appears different

[brave field]

Check your ipv6 addresses

[thin turtle]

yeah ipv6 is private

[brave field]

if your ISP isn't harming you on purpose, you should have a public block you can port forward from just fine

[rapid lake]

Public just means you connect directly to the internet as opposed to your ISP assigning your router a private IP, then having you and other people use the same public one

That's my understanding

[thin turtle]

well idk

I mean by private is that it is unique to you

a public one wouldn't be

[rapid lake]

What do I need to set up ipv6

[rapid lake]

I agree

[thin turtle]

[brave field]

you likely already have ipv6

[thin turtle]

yeah

[rapid lake]

It isn't enabled

And I wasn't provided a static IP by my ISP

[thin turtle]

you either do or don't

[brave field]

if not, something is very wrong.

[thin turtle]

[thin turtle]

is your internet old

[brave field]

It was OFF?!

[thin turtle]

sussy

[rapid lake]

Looks like 99% of ISPs here default to ipv4

[brave field]

That's customer service call-worthy, they're practically scamming you

[rapid lake]

And I'm guessing we don't have many of those

[brave field]

99% of devices default to ipv6 for outgoing traffic

[thin turtle]

yes

ipv6 should be unique to the device or something

I forgot

[civic cloud]

I thought IPv4 is obsolete because it doesn't have enough addresses?

[brave field]

Now, not 99% of home networks have them, but all modern OSes prefer ithttps://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html

Not obsolete, and there's still excess ipv4 addresses

[rapid lake]

Does it make a difference

[lost fossil]

it's actually the opposite

[brave field]

but it certainly solves the CGNAT at home problems

[civic cloud]

yeah idk what that means chief

[thin turtle]

[lost fossil]

we have cgnat at home
cgnat at home

[rapid lake]

Yeah that's what ISPs usually do here

[thin turtle]

you don't know what CGYAT mean?

[civic cloud]

perish

[rapid lake]

I bet everyone is using one IP

[brave field]

so essentially, CGNAT means you don't get a public IP, you share it with two dozen others. since ipv6 has whatever bilion quadrillion addresses, ISPs are supposed to hand you a whole block to use

[thin turtle]

yes

this what I'm trying to communicate

[rapid lake]

Do these IPs cost money for the ISP

[brave field]

which restores the ability to host or port forward whatever you want publicly

[thin turtle]

thank you cookie sama

[civic cloud]

okay yeah I can follow so far

[rapid lake]

Yes I know IPV6 are much longer and there's many more of them

But how does it differ practically in terms of anything other than hosting stuff

[thin turtle]

I want your help

[rapid lake]

Why do apps prefer it

[brave field]

OSes assign privacy addresses or temporary addresses

[nova steppe]

is this on a router from your ISP, or your own that you just use with their modem?

[brave field]

So your outgoing traffic doesn't link directly back to your incoming address

[rapid lake]

My own router, don't know what a modem is despite googling it like 10 times

[brave field]

For example, those silly ip grabbing links are useless if you communicate only over ipv6, because our phone or PC has 3 different addresses its using

you can see what I mean in ipconfig in Windows. You'll have a temporary field under your main and above the local one

[nova steppe]

okay, so it was both a manufacturer issue by not having IPv6 on by default, and a user issue because you haven't checked until now

[rapid lake]

The router is only connected to the fiber ONT or ONU whichever you prefer

[rapid lake]

Please elaborate

[brave field]

My ISP provides a /64 ipv6 subnet even for their cheapest plan, which is uhh

[civic cloud]

Router gives you WiFi, modem lets you connect to your ISP, both functions can be in the same device

[brave field]

18,446,744,073,709,551,616 public addresses

[rapid lake]

I neverbothred to check if I had a public IP

[rapid lake]

I guess it's the latter then

[nova steppe]

ipv6 defaulting to off on a router made in the last 5+ years is el cringe

[rapid lake]

That's how it was in my previous ISP too

(I changed a couple days ago)

[brave field]

It's also a fun security risk if you see it in a corporate network

[nova steppe]

ah

[rapid lake]

I don't think this router is super old or super new either

2021

[nova steppe]

like my little pocket router with outdated firmware, that I can connect to any open RJ45 to make very™ secure wifi?

[brave field]

Mine is older, call them up and see if they'll help you

[rapid lake]

screen flash incoming

[civic cloud]

Why is IPv4 a security risk?

[civic cloud]

God fuck why, I'm blind now

[rapid lake]

It has many more features than my old router tbh

[rapid lake]

I doubt they know what IPV6 even is but I'll see

[brave field]

@civic cloud disabling ipv6 is a security risk at corporate level, less so at home

[rapid lake]

They're just a reseller of another ISP

[nova steppe]

how unfortunate that I had to scroll up to see the warning

[civic cloud]

in what sense? Because more people share the same IP?

[vagrant crown]

But port forwarding has nothing to do with public ip, its setup on internal isn’t it?

[brave field]

Pretending ipv6 doesn't exist and only building your monitoring and firewalls around ipv4 doesn't mean attackers suddenly won't use it in your LAN

[rapid lake]

Btw I didn't see the guy configure the ONU in any way before plugging in everything, he just asked for its mac address to keep in case any issues happen

Can I access it myself and see what's up

[vagrant crown]

I thought you just have to set your device internally as a static ip

[rapid lake]

Maybe find something interesting

[rapid lake]

If your router uses a DHCP server all devices have a static IP usually

But that's irrelevant

[brave field]

@civic cloud oldheads block all outgoing and incoming ipv6 traffic to WAN and assume that covers it. It does not, and they tend to leave the local ipv6 network unsecured

[civic cloud]

I don't know enough about networking to understand the issue with not having ipv6 ngl

[rapid lake]

Port forwarding is for being able to connect to your network without it being locally

Like, from the internet

[civic cloud]

That sounds reasonable, why does it not work

[rapid lake]

what this do

[vagrant crown]

Yeah I understand the concept I have port forwarding rules setup but it’s just internally I thought

Well you’re opening those ports in your firewall

[brave field]

disable ipv6 wan -> assume ipv6 in its totality is gone and not a problem anymore -> secure only your ipv4 traffic over the lan because ipv6 is gone, right? -> some guy connects his infected laptop on the guest network one day -> lan is unsecured on ipv6, so you get infected even though you secured all your ipv4 traffic @civic cloud

[rapid lake]

[snow rover]

damn i got scammed, my router has no wifi

[nova steppe]

thanks for the mac address, loseerrrr

[quaint helm]

both function can be in same device?!?!?!?!

[nova steppe]

yes

[rapid lake]

[brave field]

anyways, you want to port forward, call up your ISP and ask for ipv6, they'll hand it over, then you can host as much as you like without having to pay extra for an ipv4 address

[rapid lake]

noted

I don't actually need it atm I just wanted know why I didn't have it

[brave field]

also, google keeps nice data for how many of their searches go through ipv6 https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html

[quaint helm]

only appear in high end modem(?) or what

[civic cloud]

ah okay, thanks for the explanation 🤝

[civic cloud]

Yeah that's usually what you get from your ISP?

[quaint helm]

i dont think so i always see 2 device connect to each other

[civic cloud]

Yo Germany is surprisingly dark green in this

[civic cloud]

what

[brave field]

W Germany