tech-coding-math

[civic cloud]

I wanted to replace mine but a set for my GPU would have been 40€ cuz it's like 5 different thicknesses

[quartz kayak]

alr

[civic cloud]

at that point i didn't bother and just added new thermal paste and called it a day

[quartz kayak]

idk where yall are buying thermal pads

but pls stop

[civic cloud]

I didn't buy

Ain't no way I'm spending 40 quid on some rubber pads

[cold elbow]

I will probably search ali express and order some

For future use

Or when gus needs them

And i sell for him for 80$

[quartz kayak]

thermal glizzy ( i know thats not the name) pads are like 6 euro locally to me

[civic cloud]

You already can't sell me your feet pics, why do you think I'd buy thermal pads from you

[cold elbow]

They will have babboo blessing

[quartz kayak]

literally just look at the pfp

free

[civic cloud]

Tempting, but no thank you

[civic cloud]

I like em shaved

[quartz kayak]

[spare relic]

There is no “fake frames” the gpu generates frame nothing is fake amd with frame gen you get higher fps so lower latency unless you cap fps

[cold elbow]

Actually, enabling frame gen will drop your base frames ... which means you are getting more latency

[lost fossil]

"looks inside cat" posted
looks inside
nothing to look inside for

[civic cloud]

Another disappointment yet again

[cold elbow]

The only reason u feel like latency is improving is because enabling frame gen enables low latency mode automatically
Which in some game nvidia doesn't allow you to enable without frame gen lmao

You get much better experience by playing on native and enable low latency mode

[thin turtle]

@cold elbow
PCL in the NVIDIA overlay stands for PC Latency, which is the time from when the PC/game receives input until the finished frame is sent to the display, excluding mouse and monitor delay.It is the main “system latency” metric NVIDIA exposes and is shown in milliseconds, where lower values mean more responsive input.
RLAT in NVIDIA’s documentation maps to Render Latency (often labeled “Render Present Latency”), which is the time from when a frame’s present call enters the GPU queue until that present call is executed on the GPU. This tells you how long the GPU is taking to render and present frames, helping identify if the GPU side of the pipeline is adding noticeable lag.

This is it I believe

[cold elbow]

Tl;dr

[thin turtle]

PCL is system latency ie CPU to GPU
RLAT is frame render latency

[spare relic]

In all games it forces you to turn on low reflex

[spare relic]

Will test

[cold elbow]

It's already proven in one of hardwareunboxed videos

[thin turtle]

Now give

[rancid magnet]

I actually like y'all like damn this is a interesting chat

[cold elbow]

Didn't understand anything

[rancid magnet]

Its making want to learn more about this tech stuff

[thin turtle]

Skill issue

[cold elbow]

I have a strong feeling that we will never see you here again

[spare relic]

I would argue Performance dlss 4 looks the same as native and frame gen x4 lets me game at 4k120fps with path tracing for some people they are ok with this setup the 1% others will say no not ok

[cold elbow]

99% of people dont even care about path tracing

Let alone enabling it

[spare relic]

Come back tomorrow for our next debate. Are intel cpus better than AMD?

[rancid magnet]

Nah man I actually might jus come in here every few hours and jus read all this and jus also like write stuff down cuz ngl im interested in this type of stuff and no one else is interested in this and so I like this and you guys

[thin turtle]

NVIDIA reflex does not improve the RLAT or PCL

[rancid magnet]

Omg yes I would love too

[spare relic]

I didnt care about it until i had to option to turn it on and dude my game looked better

[spare relic]

Are you sure it does not improve PCL?

[thin turtle]

Nop

It was 50ms before and it is 50ms after

Oh there's a boost mode

[cold elbow]

Enabling low latency mode in bf6 frops my latency

[thin turtle]

Still the same

[cold elbow]

And i can feel it

But then my room turns into a sauna

[thin turtle]

Damn vsync is pushing it to 80

[spare relic]

I have frame gen off but dlss set to performance on battlefield 6 i can do 4k 120fps at ultra with tanks dragging my ass across the map

[thin turtle]

But there's a significant drop in gpu power use

[cold elbow]

Bf6 is a well optimized game

It runs on pretty much anything

[spare relic]

Yup

[cold elbow]

Vsync isn't supposed to increase fps

[thin turtle]

Common ea w

[cold elbow]

It capps it

[thin turtle]

Hence the latency increase?

[cold elbow]

Nope

Vsync increases latency so u should disable that and run an fps cap

[spare relic]

But how to fix screen tearing?

Without vsync

[cold elbow]

Free sync and gsync should deal with that

Provided that you keep it in the range of the monitor

[quaint helm]

Artic owners!!!! assemble

[cold elbow]

This is freaking awesome

[spare relic]

If only my a80L had gsync

[cold elbow]

I wanted to do that but i only have spare 140 noctua fans

[cold elbow]

All modern monitors support free sync and gsync

It's called adaptive sync

Which is basically a spec in Display port specifications

[spare relic]

Mine was released in 2023 no gsync or amd sync

[cold elbow]

Gsync and free sync all sooooo old technologies

As i said... adaptive sync if you are using display port

[quaint helm]

sell it and get artic

[thin turtle]

Where's my 3080 love

[spare relic]

I dont have it

[spare relic]

I am using hdmi 3.1

[cold elbow]

U sure that u didn't enable a thing in monitor settings

Oh hdmi

🪦

[quaint helm]

ummm too old tho an UNC card

[spare relic]

There’s no display port on my monitor

[thin turtle]

You take that back

[spare relic]

There’s 4 hdmi on my monitor

[thin turtle]

TV

[quaint helm]

i give it to you

[thin turtle]

Hop on rdo

[quaint helm]

rdo?

[thin turtle]

Rdo

[spare relic]

Red dead online

[quaint helm]

i dont have red dead lol

[thin turtle]

Common shawn L

[spare relic]

sheikh zayed road is blocked full of cars

[thin turtle]

[cold elbow]

Then cap your fps to the monitor refresh rate

[quaint helm]

wot

[thin turtle]

What if I add 5 more frames

[cold elbow]

Your house will explode

[thin turtle]

😟

[quartz kayak]

true

[thin turtle]

No?

[quartz kayak]

Yes!

[cold elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/house-destroyed-house-destroy-house-explode-explosion-exploded-gif-7930022391876968701

[spare relic]

I get small screen tearing on the top of monitor

[thin turtle]

Stop posting in community

[quaint helm]

what if i overclock my psu

[cold elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/house-destroyed-house-destroy-house-explode-explosion-exploded-gif-7930022391876968701

[quartz kayak]

overclocking psu

😭

[quaint helm]

more power

[spare relic]

@cold elbow

[thin turtle]

Why so smol

[cold elbow]

Yeah i cNt see anything

[civic cloud]

That's what she said 😭

[thin turtle]

Ew it's gauss

Let's leave

[thin turtle]

Your frames are not limited

[civic cloud]

This is what I get for loving and cherishing you

[thin turtle]

Shut up

You snake

[cold elbow]

It's like you have Vaseline all over the screen

[spare relic]

I have shit screen recorder

[thin turtle]

Use obs

[cold elbow]

Disable frame gen and dlss
Use fsr native
And enable low latency mode

You will get much better experience, also raise that FOV

[spare relic]

With @worn copper i get 10+ fps

[thin turtle]

Why not dlaa

[cold elbow]

And yeah cap your fps

[quartz kayak]

got the aliexpress special mouse

and the much needed razor

handy

in case a hair tries to get cocky

grab n go

[cold elbow]

How do people sit infront of a 60 inch tv

[spare relic]

It’s my monitor…….

[quaint helm]

nah u should ask how wide is the fov of their eyes

[cold elbow]

Questionable choices

[spare relic]

4 hdmi no display port

[cold elbow]

Yes... TVs dont come with dp

[spare relic]

No gsync

[quaint helm]

man got personal cinema experience

imax feeling

[cold elbow]

And some tvs dont have low latency hdmi port or.... the "gaming port"

[civic cloud]

wtf

[civic cloud]

no that's for different applications

[spare relic]

Now I’ll restart game to turn on vsync in nvidia panel

[civic cloud]

With a chair, most likely

I love being a helpful member of this chat

[thin turtle]

Melon please

[cold elbow]

I know

U want me to mute gus

[thin turtle]

[civic cloud]

you can't mute me and not mute lumbago wtf

[cold elbow]

Wanna bet?

[civic cloud]

I don't bet anymore since the events at my birthday '21

[quaint helm]

~~why not both

[thin turtle]

What that case called

[spare relic]

Kfc coolermaster masterbox 520

Glass edition

[thin turtle]

Kfc

[cold elbow]

No airflow edition

[thin turtle]

It makes sense

[spare relic]

3 fans on top 1 rear 3 front

[thin turtle]

Does the front have a glass too?

[spare relic]

Yes front is glass panel

[tidal plume]

L ragebait tbh

[thin turtle]

Guess I'll have to break it

[quaint helm]

is there tempered glass am i looking it right

[thin turtle]

I love the case

[cold elbow]

Yes, front is glass...hench no airflow edition

[spare relic]

Look

Holes

For aie

Air

Holes for air

[cold elbow]

That's pathetic

[spare relic]

It breathes using this filter thing to suck in clean air

[civic cloud]

Damn no mercy for the poor guy today

[spare relic]

It’s 50$

[cold elbow]

U barely get any air from that

I would take that mesh off

[thin turtle]

You see, the goal is to simulate an open case environment inside the case. By adding more restrictions to the air, it tends to worsen the thermal performance

When you open the case, I think even stock cpu coolers become relevant lol

[spare relic]

I dont think i can remove the mesh thingy

[spare relic]

With vsync off but fps capped i get 40ms frame gen x4 with vsync i get 101ms

[cold elbow]

U can remove the front mesh

And also remove the top mesh

[quaint helm]

remove the side panel too

[cold elbow]

Because why would you filter exhaust

[spare relic]

Back is exhaust front is breathing

[thin turtle]

It isn't

[spare relic]

This is exhaust

[thin turtle]

[cold elbow]

"TOP"

Not back

[thin turtle]

Top

[spare relic]

Top i have a cpu cooler

Blowing

You mean this?

[cold elbow]

Yes.

[spare relic]

It’s a magnetic mesh thing to stop dust from entering the radiator

[cold elbow]

You're exhausting air

No air can enter

[spare relic]

When pc is off dust can sit on the radiator no?

[cold elbow]

Then just clean it once every year

[thin turtle]

The top has a lot of space

Dust

[spare relic]

It’s a very dusty room

[spare relic]

We have same case?

[thin turtle]

No

I have a mid

[cold elbow]

Sec

[cold elbow]

Buy this bad boy

Use it for 2 seconds every month

[spare relic]

A leaf blower?

[thin turtle]

I swear my pc gets dusty every week

[cold elbow]

Use it every week then

[quaint helm]

every day

[civic cloud]

Clean your room

[thin turtle]

It is clean

[cold elbow]

No it's not

[civic cloud]

Obviously not

[agile siren]

i used it yesterday to clean my PC.

works great!!

didnt cleaned it for an year lol.

[civic cloud]

wow almost like you have been ignoring my simple request for 5 years

[thin turtle]

Are you two in my room @cold elbow

Please leave

[cold elbow]

Nah but dust is coming out of your profile

[thin turtle]

All the dust is entering from the top

I can't really clean the ceiling

[agile siren]

[quaint helm]

grow taller

[civic cloud]

You know what I mean, bitch

[snow rover]

hi nerds

solidworks for makers is 50% off right now

goodbye

[thin turtle]

[thin turtle]

@civic cloud do you have a legal version of 20sim

[civic cloud]

of what

[thin turtle]

WITH save feature

[thin turtle]

What do you use for bond graphs

[civic cloud]

what the fuck do you want from me, speak clearly

[thin turtle]

Do you know what a bond graph is? Do you use any software to simulate them?

[civic cloud]

no and no

mate ive finished basically all my classes and will start my master thesis next year, i dont know shite anymore

asking me about random things in english doesnt help since my studies were in german

[thin turtle]

What do you know man 😭

I can't trust you anymore

[thin turtle]

Does this help?

[civic cloud]

i know how to rizz up your mom

[civic cloud]

no idea what this is, never seen before

is this some electrical shit?

[thin turtle]

This is all you know. These lame ass jokes

Go and wear a wig you clown

[thin turtle]

Nono

It's a power analysis thing

[civic cloud]

im laughing, thats good enough

[thin turtle]

Just like lagrange

[civic cloud]

that is some electrical shit, delulu

[thin turtle]

No

[livid belfry]

I did it. I finally bought a pc, took me a month and a half to convince myself to pull the trigger lmao

[civic cloud]

hell yeah

[civic cloud]

id love if you wouldnt mention that guy anymore

[thin turtle]

It is used for hybrid systems

[livid belfry]

I hate spending any amount of money, nevermind pc money

[thin turtle]

Just like lagrange

[civic cloud]

bitch

[rapid lake]

So much yapping in this channel today

[thin turtle]

You love it

[civic cloud]

ive asked my uni NINE WEEKS ago to send me the change matrix thing for my classes, which tells me what exams i have to do after switching

the lady on the phone said it would take a few days

its been NINE WEEKS

and its all the fault of the shitass lecture about lagrange

only reason im switching

[thin turtle]

Bffft

[civic cloud]

thats why the word lagrange is on the black list now

[thin turtle]

Should've studied

[civic cloud]

dude you didnt see the lecture

[thin turtle]

I know how you feel

[civic cloud]

prof slapped down some formulas, a super basic example and then said "ok go for it sis"

then had the audacity to mark HIS OWN SOLUTION as "not detailed enough, cant follow" in the exam review

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[thin turtle]

[civic cloud]

i hope this explains my feelings about the L word

[sterile cliff]

Oh yeah i finally bought my first gaming laptop

Its an asus tuf f16

I7 14650hx rtx 5060 and 32gb ram

With the last one being a luxury nowadays

Allat for the criminally low price of 1049 bucks

[quaint helm]

man is rich man can afford 32gb ram

[cold elbow]

the ram on that will cost more than the laptop

[sterile cliff]

Im just glad to have purchased it this early

I just know ram prices are gonna be more fucked

[lost fossil]

I'm glad i purchased mine for 24000 currency units (coulda been 19000 but i was slow and uncertain) bc rn it's 52000

[quaint helm]

like 1/3 of the laptop cost lol

[thin turtle]

24000 shellings

[spare relic]

@cold elbow

[wary pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-surprise-surprised-supernatural-wow-gif-5153009

[muted mantle]

hi computer people

im thinking about getting a new monitor, any 34' ultrawide recommendations?

maybe a G5 or a G8?

[quaint helm]

POV : uk ure cooked when asus start making ram giveaway lol

[spare relic]

Toby spaghetti

[spare relic]

Ram are the new gold

[quaint helm]

invest in ram samsung/micron or sk hynix lol

[snow rover]

msi 341cqpx

[muted mantle]

looks good

ty! :D

[civic cloud]

mindfactory spotted

[junior flax]

can any1 explain wtf happened to ram prices 😭 😭

[snow rover]

demand > supply

[junior flax]

like 3x increase??

[junior flax]

ah

shouldve invested in ram

[cold elbow]

AI money is a lot

[quartz kayak]

Here prices the same still

[junior flax]

wheres that

[quartz kayak]

Lmk i can buy u some

Portugal

[junior flax]

I have ram lol i upgraded to ddr5 in september

[quartz kayak]

Im actually joking im not buying you anything go away

[junior flax]

The price increase is just crazy i only just realised after seeing a meme

[junior flax]

uhh ok. i wasnt going to ask u to anyway 💀

[cold elbow]

microsoft is sad to announce that the xbox price will increase because of the ram shortages...
guess who invested in buying all the ram for AI?

[junior flax]

was it sony

[cold elbow]

no

its microsoft

[junior flax]

ik lol im takling the piss

😭

[cold elbow]

[spare relic]

Is gamemax a good psu?

[quartz kayak]

Who

[snow rover]

probably not

[quartz kayak]

Gamesigma67

[spare relic]

Gamemax

[cold elbow]

nope

[spare relic]

Why not?

[cold elbow]

its a company known for making cheap e waste

[quartz kayak]

It depends on the rating i think. I also bought a unknown brand psu and it was gold rated and my house hasnt burned down yet

[cold elbow]

what do you expect

[quartz kayak]

I have used it for 6 years now

But if it is a somewhat expensive pc just get sonething from a good brand tbh not worth cutting corners sometimes

[spare relic]

I have a friend he bought a gamemax psu and it blew up

He plans on buying a 5080

[cold elbow]

ok im being trolled

[quartz kayak]

Tell him to buy a linglong psu

For the 5080

Good brand

[spare relic]

We have a shortage of pc parts in my country if i want something i import if other people want something they are fucked

[cold elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/shoot-computer-smash-gif-22104112

[snow rover]

linglong is a tire brand

is it not

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linglong_Tire

[void turret]

One of the cheapest tire

[sharp coyote]

Psu

Gamemax had like 1-2 decent psus If i remember right but as a company they manipulated with reviews and products

• random hardware swaps which were noticable worse

[quartz kayak]

Yea

Lingolong 👨🏻‍🚒

[quartz kayak]

But have you heard about the mucho macho tires?

They just be giving tire brand names

[upbeat spade]

a fish died for this

[quartz kayak]

[thin turtle]

Where to buy

Send link

[quartz kayak]

Cora sent it earlier go up in chat

[thin turtle]

Cora will never disclose such information

[tidal plume]

80+ ratings don’t mean anything

[quartz kayak]

Nothing means anything

Everyone will die in 90+ years

Just hope everyone ends happy

I dont think a psu called gameralphaskibidi67 will change that

[thin turtle]

They mean a smaller power bill

[tidal plume]

@jovial tide

[jovial tide]

80+ ratings dont mean shit

[jovial tide]

Just pay the bills

@tidal plume is this all you needed me to reply to for now?

[tidal plume]

You can see a lot of L ragebait if you scroll up tbh

[jovial tide]

L ragebait tbh

What the fuck is this chat

goofy ass chat

[quartz kayak]

@jovial tide

[jovial tide]

I agree we all suck

[thin turtle]

What do you want bebecat

[quartz kayak]

No?

[thin turtle]

Can you stop flirting

[thin turtle]

This doesn't work like that

[jovial tide]

I'm bebecat's right man

[thin turtle]

Because I don't pay my own bills

[quartz kayak]

Hes his right earbud

[jovial tide]

Me neither, so use all the psu you want'

[quartz kayak]

The most important one

[thin turtle]

I will the psu I need

all I care about is efficiency

[jovial tide]

1000w good

[thin turtle]

The mancave should stay power efficient

[jovial tide]

500 w bad

gold good

anything lower bad

Um

80+ is usually the best

[thin turtle]

Isn't gold the 80+

[jovial tide]

I dont know

[thin turtle]

[jovial tide]

Im just here cause bebecat called me

[thin turtle]

You deserve to play payday2

For your loyalty

[jovial tide]

I got 10 hours in that game

I got about 2 hours in gta online

[thin turtle]

No problem

Get more

[jovial tide]

Nah I aint installing that

[quartz kayak]

Stop playing games

[thin turtle]

I implore you

[spare relic]

we been talking about psu since morning

[quartz kayak]

Just gamble

[thin turtle]

PSU talk

Is best talk

[jovial tide]

Piss talk

[thin turtle]

Because it's all subjective

[quartz kayak]

It all started with the miku psu

[thin turtle]

I did that

[quartz kayak]

I rememner repying to that while on classes in the monring

[thin turtle]

Thanks for acknowledging my vital role in keeping this server alive

[jovial tide]

Well @thin turtle ill see you next time bebecat randomly pings me for no reason

[thin turtle]

Speak Portugal @quartz kayak

[quartz kayak]

No?

Rule1

[thin turtle]

No?

[quartz kayak]

No?

[thin turtle]

Bye

We all know you are a bebecat alt

We won't tell the mods

[jovial tide]

Trust me I aint bebecat's alt

https://steamcommunity.com/id/EarbudUser/

Is that proof

[hexed crystal]

holy fuck

[jovial tide]

bebecat is poor

I am not

Think about it

[hexed crystal]

thank god i bought my ram 2 years ago 😭

[civic arch]

is the steamdeck outdated these days

its on sale for 330€ instead of like 420€

[thin turtle]

Chat is this riyal

[quartz kayak]

Why do you have 700 big rmr 2020 stickers

[jovial tide]

Investment

[civic arch]

it could run snowrunner which i need and any heavy games i can probably stream to it

from my pc

[hexed crystal]

yeah its real

[quartz kayak]

On papers? 😭

[jovial tide]

For sure

I also got like 700 job sim mugs

[thin turtle]

Need to make a run to the store to check the local market

[quartz kayak]

Ur insane

[jovial tide]

I bought the market at one point

[thin turtle]

[quartz kayak]

I hope the investment works

Like

They need to go to 50 each

NOW

[jovial tide]

I also got 120 Green Plaid Shirts

Type shit

[quartz kayak]

Bro imagine if you invested in coverts

You d be millionaire

[jovial tide]

ah hell nah bebe just sent me a friend request on steam

[quartz kayak]

W bebe

[jovial tide]

I do not find you hot bebe

[quartz kayak]

Hes a cool girl

He also stole my name

But its ok

[tidal plume]

?!?!

[quartz kayak]

He deservew it more than me

[jovial tide]

no offence

[tidal plume]

I’m taken???

[jovial tide]

Alright then

full offence

[tidal plume]

huh

[quartz kayak]

Imagine beeing denied a friend request

Crazy work

[jovial tide]

I remember paying 160 for a cobalt deagle skin on csgo 2
then selling it back for 160

Then valve released that knife and glove update and it dropped to 60

[quartz kayak]

Recently my 6 euro m4 went up to 500

😭

[jovial tide]

Insane

Sadly I wasnt that much into csgo 2 trading like you 😭

id be rich rn

[quartz kayak]

Its not worthwhile

Just work

Unless you can predict the future

Then help a guy out aswell

[jovial tide]

Sticker | BIG | 2020 RMR is going to 10 cents in 20 years

Good luck

[quartz kayak]

Bro ngl thats a bad investment imo 😭

Something like fnatic or navi would go crazy

[jovial tide]

Wasn't there some blockbuster sticker people were crying about recently

Cause you could put a h or something in the front

[quartz kayak]

Idk not into stickers rlly atm

[quartz kayak]

Thats like what 70 euro profit?

Are you predicting the prices in 20 years

If i were to invest into something atm in mass. It would either be some fnatic glitter/holo or just capsules.

From also 2020 or older if its in good numbers

Capsules normally do really good since its hard to predict hypes. Or maybe diverse stickers alot

No papers since they dont go up alot most of the time

go gamble

[jovial tide]

@quartz kayak nobody wants that crap,

Sealed Genesis Terminal is so bad

[quartz kayak]

💀

w opinion

sell it for more stickers

[jovial tide]

Nah

I aint accepting it

[quartz kayak]

LMFAO

bro i remember when that shit was like 30 bucks

wish i got them then

but NO

fuck valve

[rapid lake]

cs in the tech channel

[quartz kayak]

it is technically investing and that could be considered math

[rapid lake]

consider putting dn inside your mouth

[quartz kayak]

?

[rapid lake]

don't ? me

smh

[quartz kayak]

?

who dis new phone

[rapid lake]

hop on

[quartz kayak]

im on

[rapid lake]

hop on dn

[civic cloud]

Mute for toxicity

[spare relic]

Do you guys use Display port or hdmi

[snow rover]

dp

[upbeat spade]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-emoji-rage-gif-2922587064166244739

i love dp

hdmi no port lock lookin ass

[civic cloud]

DP

[quartz kayak]

i use both

dp pc hdmi ps

[spare relic]

I wish my tv had deadpool

[lost fossil]

corsair tax + ai tax =

mostly corsair tax

this shit made me appreciate primary x16 slots that are shifted one slot down

i can't plug one of my monitors into one of the dp connectors bc the cable housing is too fat and the surrounding case bits get in the way

[cold elbow]

Use your imagination

Or a hammer

Or both

[fickle finch]

thoughts on steam pc @cold elbow ?

[civic cloud]

ugh, it's called GabeCube

[brave field]

$550. Keep this price in mind when the Steam Machine price gets revealed https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/pdp/omen-16l-gaming-desktop-tg03-0055m-pc-b73mkaa-aba

Will be fun to compare. Especially if something with the ram situation happens

[civic cloud]

Pretty sure it's said to be priced like a PC, cuz they can't bet on making money through game sales like playstation or xbox

[brave field]

Not subsidized by game sales, yeah. My original guess was $749.99 but it might end up higher

HP here gets both their OEM/SI discounts PLUS whatever potential money they make locking people in with non-standard parts and ram/storage upsells

[civic cloud]

Don't forget the insurance upsell

[brave field]

And even with all that, $550 isn't particularly great for the specs. Maybe Valve'll delay it or something if getting ram is still suffering and pain by then

[lost fossil]

$550 might not be particularly great but i'm p sure you can buy it for that much and sell parts separately for more than $550

Power supply
400 W 80 Plus Platinum certified power supply

[brave field]

8400F is another half-cache abomination. My 5700X3D beats it. Neat

400W platinum, definitely one a discarded or overstock model from some other machine. Maybe a compute slice or something rackmount that takes multiple PSUs for hotplugging?

[quartz kayak]

Wasnt it said it was gonna be pc priced

Im expecting like 1000€

[brave field]

The listed specs shouldn't be nearly that expensive, depends on the country though.

I made a PCPP list at $880, all new parts, including horrendously priced 32gb of ram at $215. A desktop 7600 has more CUs, the CPU likely has more cache, and there's no OEM discount

[tidal plume]

@jovial tide

[quartz kayak]

Then it ll be probably around that if i had to guess.

Like on the dot

Maybe like 20 bucks margain

[snow rover]

piss5 on black friday sale

should i buy one

[tidal plume]

What

[quartz kayak]

How much is the pro piss

[snow rover]

it's just gonna gather dust until g*a 6 comes out

[quartz kayak]

Just keep it in the box

[snow rover]

pro is 699

[quartz kayak]

Thats discounted? Hella nah lmaoo

[quartz kayak]

What about the nirmal piss 5

[snow rover]

370

[quartz kayak]

Why is it still expensive

[snow rover]

regular price for pro is like 800 something

[quartz kayak]

Its 340 here

The ps5

The pro is also 699

[snow rover]

370 with 2 controllers

[quartz kayak]

Maybe wait an year more i thinkk

[snow rover]

idk why i would want 2 controllers though

[quartz kayak]

It ll be cheaper next year for sure

[quartz kayak]

You got feet

[snow rover]

featherless biped

[quartz kayak]

The pro is such a robbery

Imagine dropping 700 euro on a console just to have to buy games and pay a monthly subscription

Holy

On fnac here the ps5 pro is at 1050€ 😭💀

[prisma trellis]

What type of ps5

Here I got the 1 TB disc drive one for 450

Black Friday sale is MASSIVE

[jovial tide]

well well well. look what we got here

you want the gabecube huh

I don't think you should get it

with the current prices of shit your looking 1000+ for it

anyway ima go take a shit

[lost fossil]

bro u don't gotta add fisheye filters to photos of a computer screen

[civic cloud]

Gotta make it look bigger

[lost fossil]

[civic cloud]

exactly sis

[strange ridge]

it didnt wanna focus and if i went and moved the camera back my legal name would be on screen, altho i did just realise it would have been easier just to blur it out

[civic cloud]

@strange ridge nice Christmas bus

very festive, also very good photoshop

[strange ridge]

thank you

yeah i found a "png" of a christmas hat

thanks edge for labeling it as a png and showing me no other png images

[civic cloud]

just saw your name, I'm holding a presentation with a Trabi 601 in it on Monday :D

[kindred vapor]

Maybe they are on crt

[civic cloud]

can't see the scan lines

[cold elbow]

[quaint helm]

[quartz kayak]

Naur

My pc superior

The steamdeck sounds more tempting but i dont really play any single player games and i heard it loses its fun after awhile

[toxic sentinel]

Definitely not 1000$ as it would be doa

[toxic sentinel]

Yeah I already sold mine. Didn't use it as much as I thought I would.

Also SteamOS while being great has a problem that a lot of games aren't working, because of their anticheat

GTA V could have been perfect on it if just the online part did work

[strange ridge]

oh good luck with your presentation

[tidal plume]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/304725899650007041/1443441885271162910/image-385.png?ex=69291583&is=6927c403&hm=e29ed7d064b53b1b753ab0561f3fa487f90a3dd3a7285e035e3203affcd69889&

[civic cloud]

One of these is not like the others

[rapid lake]

[quaint helm]

dream to look at 4k only able to look at 720p

[quaint helm]

what....the fk?

o wait nvm its the shelf but that image look so cursed lmao the quality

[thin turtle]

Ai generated

[civic cloud]

You can open a planet :) only once tho

and everyone in the galaxy will hate you with -100, the empire that owns the planet gets -1000 (+1/yr)

[quaint helm]

🪴 plant

[civic cloud]

[muted mantle]

hiya

should i pay 300€ more for a model that has hdr?

600 no hdr 900 hdr

[thin turtle]

What's this

[muted mantle]

both are MSI 341CQP but the second one is the X-model with HDR

[snow rover]

both have hdr

[thin turtle]

HDR is nice

[snow rover]

the x is a newer gen panel

[thin turtle]

Until it isn't

[snow rover]

240 hz vs 175

[thin turtle]

Oleg?

[quaint helm]

qt-oled

[thin turtle]

What does that do

[quaint helm]

idk im not a nerd in monitor

[civic cloud]

simp

[muted mantle]

oooh i didnt see the hdr mode on the non-x one

[jovial tide]

dude. I work for a 94.80 billion dollar company

It's gonna be 1k

[civic cloud]

weird flex

[vagrant crown]

You’re an Amazon delivery driver?

[rapid lake]

@thin turtle

Ts cost $30

[thin turtle]

have fun

how many uno

[rapid lake]

And some more stuff

[rapid lake]

R3

[thin turtle]

u can use proteus to run this one

[rapid lake]

Stop trying to get me to use proteus bro

[quaint helm]

'super learning kit' , sounds more like 'fast balding kit' bcus u gonna be so stress lol

[rapid lake]

💀

My genes already make me prone to either early balding or early greying of hair or both

[quaint helm]

this kit will make it faster

[thin turtle]

get to work

[rapid lake]

Motor go weee

[thin turtle]

be careful with that thing

ceo of frying transistors

or at least the silly small bjts

[rapid lake]

I only get two transistors apparently

[thin turtle]

that's like the cheapest shit

[lost fossil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/904101912201277452/1397491109051236364/man.gif

[thin turtle]

[thin turtle]

this is actually cool

is there an op amp

[thin turtle]

ai slop

[civic cloud]

rich boi

[void turret]

@muted mantle check Hakusanat https://www.tori.fi/recommerce/forsale/item/33649959

[muted mantle]

lmfao this fucker is desperate

[nova steppe]

it's so w i d e

[thin turtle]

I need a big ass case

[nova steppe]

I need a big ass ||redacted||

[thin turtle]

pizza

[brave field]

I tried for the $99 5060 Ti, I really did

what a shame!

at least I can say I was here

[thin turtle]

Omg that's so good

[quartz kayak]

Prolly a fake gpu

Ali known for pulling those

[thin turtle]

Who's ali

[brave field]

This is Newegg

It's real, just that it sold out before the sale even started. If the graphic is to be believed, they only set aside 30 of them

[quartz kayak]

Is it still going?

[brave field]

but hey, I'm sure most people never even saw the banner pop up

no its super gone

[quartz kayak]

Fuck

[brave field]

I was there on the dot and no banner showed up. Refreshed, it took almost 4 seconds to fully load, hit buy now, it was gone, and got the screenshot while it was loading the checkout

[quartz kayak]

I actually had the money

[quartz kayak]

Do they just refund then?

[brave field]

I hate Newegg but I think they're nice enough to actually just cancel the order via email rather than process any transactions or put the order through at normal price

[snow rover]

wow, actual black friday sales?

i don't believe it

[brave field]

If you're looking at PC parts, its the only one

[quartz kayak]

If you see any other stray gpus going for mega cheap lmk

I have a 2060 i need it

[void turret]

Is this enough?

[snow rover]

liqorice ice cream 😋

[civic cloud]

No

[void turret]

Perfect

[void turret]

How much more?

[civic cloud]

Yes

[spare relic]

@cold elbow @thin turtle i have a friend he is using a 750w gamemax bronze psu for his 5080

The psu blew up

[quartz kayak]

You should @ them again and say the same tomorrow

[sharp coyote]

Well amazing

[nova steppe]

[cold elbow]

si

[rapid lake]

Deserved

[jovial tide]

Almost

[rapid lake]

Did his gpu survive

[spare relic]

Gpu yes motherboard no

[rapid lake]

Well something had to break

[spare relic]

He’s now looking for PS5

Instead of PC

[void turret]

Why

[thin turtle]

omg

is mine going to blow up too

@rapid lake

help

[spare relic]

Because he says pc is too complicated

[thin turtle]

It do be like that

[rose sigil]

after buying a 5080??

that motherfucker definitely used some dogshit $40 power supply

[spare relic]

It’s rated E

[spare relic]

He got it for 4 $ apparently

[rose sigil]

lmao

why tf would he use that with a 5080

what mental illness is that

[toxic sentinel]

At least it did work (for a while)

[spare relic]

He’s broke

He got no dinero for good cpu cooler or good psu

[rose sigil]

because of the 5080?

he should have gotten a 5070 ti

it’s basically the same gpu

[spare relic]

He broke in general

[rose sigil]

where did the 5080 come from then 😭

[spare relic]

Loan

He took a monthly installment

He gonna pay more in the long run

Shit cpu cooler + shit psu

[snow rover]

xg27aqwmg arrival estimate changed from december to march

[rose sigil]

which cpu does he have

[rose sigil]

man i wish i waited for that monitor to release

i got the older model a couple months ago

[rapid lake]

I'm too lazy to look it up

[spare relic]

Cpu is a 7 7800X3D

[rose sigil]

glossy tandem oled that’s all you gotta know

[spare relic]

As cooler he is using a aerocool 360L

[rapid lake]

At least it's an AIO

a 360mm one

[rose sigil]

that’s bad?

it’s not cheap

[toxic sentinel]

He did put money in all wrong places and then 4$ for PSU

[spare relic]

43$

[rose sigil]

dude could have gotten a 5070ti or 9070xt and spent that money elsewhere and barely lost any performance

[toxic sentinel]

RTX 5080 is biggest scam

[spare relic]

Asus A21 micro Atx case

[spare relic]

He says he wants nvidia for creative apps and gaming 5080 specifically

Case looks a bit small no?

[rose sigil]

5070 ti is the same gpu though

just missing a few cores

i guarantee he wouldn’t even notice a difference in any app or game

only the 25% lower price is noticeable

[spare relic]

He waiting for new psu to turn on the pc

[rapid lake]

Are you sure

[rose sigil]

yes

[rapid lake]

They even have the same vram

so then what's the difference

[rose sigil]

5070ti is just a slightly cut down 5080

it’s missing some cores

[toxic sentinel]

That PC looks beautiful though

[rose sigil]

and the 5080 has slightly higher clock speeds

[spare relic]

That’s not his I downloaded this from the internet

I’ll ask him for a picture

[toxic sentinel]

Oh

[rapid lake]

Yeah looks to be about 15-17% faster

It would make sense if the 5080 had more vram and gpus were at msrp

but even at msrp the $200 difference makes no sense without extra vram

[rose sigil]

it makes no sense for the 5070 ti to even use the same die as 5080

TIs are meant to be slightly faster versions of the base gpus not a cut down version of the gpu one tier up

[rapid lake]

And for having about 50 extra cores and 14 or smth rt cores, it pulls 60 more watts

lmao

[rapid lake]

if you ask me, I think the 070s are too big of a jump from the 060s for the 50 series

Like, the 5070 is 30% faster than the 60ti

[rose sigil]

and the 5070ti is 30% faster than the normal 5070 😭

nvidia completely screwed up their naming schemes

[rapid lake]

There needed to be a GPU that's a 15-20% faster than the 60ti with more vram but at a lower price

5060ti is like 500, 5070 is 700

local prices here

[toxic sentinel]

And they sell 5060ti at 440€ while I saw RTX 5070 being 500€ at Black Friday

[rapid lake]

lmao

[toxic sentinel]

Unless you want 8GB version which makes no sense for RTX 5060ti imo

[rapid lake]

cheapest is 700 here it's an msi shadow 2x I think

There's also a zotac for slightly less

oh what it's now $620

[toxic sentinel]

And RTX 5070 have only 8GB VRAM on mobile

[rapid lake]

and the 3x is just 10 dollas more

11% tax

[rose sigil]

@rapid lake this is insane

rtx 5060 is 18% of a 5090

while the 2060 was 44% of the flagship in that generation 😭

[civic cloud]

That table just makes the 4090 and 5090 look insanely powerful

even the jump from 5080 to 5090 is crazy

[rose sigil]

they are insanely powerful but the point here is nvidia just doesn't give a shit about average gamers anymore

with the 40 series they gave an enormous upgrade to the 90 class

meanwhile the 4060 and 4060 ti literally changed nothing from the 3060 and 3060 ti

in fact the 4060 was a downgrade in terms of vram

[toxic sentinel]

They probably expect average people playing 1080p with DLSS so it would render at 720p

[rose sigil]

honestly with the transformer model, even upscaling at 1080p is decent

[toxic sentinel]

I was pretty surprised actually on DLSS quality few years ago at 1080p

Was way better than FSR in 1440p

Probably still is vs FSR 3 at least

[rose sigil]

yep fsr was a joke until the release of fsr 4

[cold elbow]

[rose sigil]

amd never believed in AI until now

[civic cloud]

Look at their income and be glad they make gaming GPUs at all

[rose sigil]

maybe with fsr 5 and the next radeon generation, amd will catch up with nvidia completely

[toxic sentinel]

That's why XeSS wins (for now)

[toxic sentinel]

I hope FSR5 have cross compability so I could use it with my Arc GPU

[cold elbow]

Idk about you guys but i never use upscalling

[toxic sentinel]

Problem with XeSS is that not every game supports it unlike DLSS and FSR

[rose sigil]

the low end 50 series can hardly be called gaming gpus 😭 they can barely run new games

[rose sigil]

if you're on 1440p or above there really is no point in not using upscaling

it's free fps

[cold elbow]

It's not

You get reduced quality

[toxic sentinel]

Unless it's FSR3

[cold elbow]

Most people ok with that but not me

[toxic sentinel]

It should be better than native res with TAA

DLAA always wins, but yeah

[rose sigil]

and 50% more fps

[cold elbow]

I owned an nvidia card before and in a game like call of duty i was seeing ghosting and blue even with dlss quality

[rose sigil]

the visual differences are so small it's impossible for the naked eye to see in most cases

[cold elbow]

I just throw more horsepower at the problem

And

Hot take

[rose sigil]

1440p with dlss quality runs better than native 1080p and looks infinitely better

[agile siren]

now hand over your money to Nvidia.

[cold elbow]

4k gaming is stupid.

[rose sigil]

why

[civic cloud]

Now post that message

[cold elbow]

Because you barely notice the difference in quality but need like triple the power to get there

[toxic sentinel]

Or just use DLSS and you would be able to enjoy it with even RTX 5070ti

[rose sigil]

compared to what

1440p?

[cold elbow]

Yes use dlss and get the quality of a 1440

Now we are going full circle

[toxic sentinel]

I guess 4K is worth it if you do productive work aside with gaming or are looking movies/TV series with the display

[cold elbow]

Yep

[rose sigil]

bro ask anyone who has played at 4k they'll say upscaled 4k looks way better than 1440p

[cold elbow]

I prefer using my own eyes

And i tried all these things

The coping is insane when u drop 5k on a pc

[rose sigil]

it's not cope it's just people who have money and want the best experience they can get

[cold elbow]

Like these clowns believing framegen can reduce latency or "not affect it"

[rose sigil]

frame gen usually doesn't have a noticeable impact on latency unless your base framerate is low

[cold elbow]

[rose sigil]

it costs like 10% of your fps

[cold elbow]

Once again i say it

Frame gen DROPS your base framerate

So you get MORE latency

[rose sigil]

i know

[cold elbow]

And it's at least 20%

And more on low end cards

[rose sigil]

maybe with 4x frame gen

with normal frame gen it's 10% or less

[cold elbow]

2x

[civic cloud]

1x

[cold elbow]

So we want more fps to get less latency

This is the whole point

What framegen is offering here?

[rose sigil]

more smoothness

[civic cloud]

Smoother gameplay

[cold elbow]

Coping

[rose sigil]

almost double framerate has a huge affect on smoothness, meanwhile the impact on latency is just a few miliseconds

[rose sigil]

whatever you say, i'll keep using upscaling and frame gen cause it makes my experience better

[toxic sentinel]

Wouldn't be able to enjoy Cyberpunk 2077 with my GPU without those

[cold elbow]

What card is that?

[toxic sentinel]

Arc B580

[civic cloud]

Melon is just a hater

[cold elbow]

B580 is capable of running the game fine

[toxic sentinel]

I run RT Ultra 1440p with upscaling and XeSS frame gen and it hits 120fps sometimes

[jovial tide]

as a 4k 240hz gamer I agree

[cold elbow]

[quartz kayak]

I ve never gamed above 1080p

Is that ok

[rose sigil]

@cold elbow

[cold elbow]

Yup

[rose sigil]

in cpu limited areas the performance impact with frame gen is almost non existent

when gpu limited i measured 10-15%

frame gen is super effective for getting rid of cpu bottlenecks

from 90 base fps to 87

[cold elbow]

More coping

[rose sigil]

you'll be blown away when you try 1440p or 4k

1440p with dlss looks so much better than native 1080p while running better

i was using a 1080p monitor for 6 years until a couple months ago

[jovial tide]

@cold elbow To be honest, I run 1080p on my 4k with a 5080 cause shit runs so bad these days

[rose sigil]

seriously?

i hope you mean 4k upscaled from 1080p

[cold elbow]

Play good optimized non nvidia titles

Play helldivers 2 or battlefield 6

[civic cloud]

Factorio is perfectly optimized

[quartz kayak]

I am gonna try 1440p on the new monitor but something tells me i ll stick with 1080p idk why

[jovial tide]

Fuck that

1080 p is already the same pixel scale as 4k just 1/4

@tidal plume Help me explain this

[quartz kayak]

I also play stretched res so idek how thats gonna work out on 1440p

[jovial tide]

Tho the monitor supports 1080p at 480hz

😭

[rose sigil]

i can never go back to 1080p after switching to 1440p

it hurts my eyes now

[jovial tide]

1080p to 1440 aint a huge jump at all

I think your just coping

[rose sigil]

ok postmelon alt

[jovial tide]

who the fuck is postmelon

[rose sigil]

1440p is 78% more pixels than 1080p

[quartz kayak]

The thing is my pc isnt the best. I play cs at like ~240fps 1080p. The monitor is gonna be able to do 280hz. At 1440p i ll probably peak at like 100 something

I can lower settings a bit but like at that point why 1440p

[rose sigil]

as i said 1440p with dlss runs better than 1080p native

[jovial tide]

Fuck dlss

[quartz kayak]

What is dlss

[rose sigil]

what gpu do you have

[jovial tide]

Some ai upscale bullshit

[quartz kayak]

2060

Oh the framegen

[jovial tide]

If I cant do 4k at 240hz

I do 1080p no upscale at 480hz

[rose sigil]

…

[quartz kayak]

Isnt that horrid for fps

[jovial tide]

Yep

[rose sigil]

this entire chat feels like ragebait

[jovial tide]

If you had 130 you get 100 + frame gen

[rose sigil]

dlss is upscaling @quartz kayak

[jovial tide]

Dlss is frame gen also

[quartz kayak]

Idk we ll see

[rose sigil]

frame gen is just included in the dlss name to make stuff simpler i guess

frame gen has nothing to do with upscaling

[quartz kayak]

Upscaling is like making 1080p into 1440p with the same quality

[jovial tide]

@quartz kayak dlss looks like shit

[rose sigil]

pretty much

[quartz kayak]

Doesnt that bring out ghosting tho

[rose sigil]

depends on the game but not usually

[jovial tide]

@quartz kayak ill dm you about it, bigman here is high

[quartz kayak]

😭

[rose sigil]

do not read this guy’s dms 😭