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epic
Idk how to ping y'all gang
5070ti msrp is hard to find lol

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Damn intel
Nvidia buff frfr
I just built budget gaming PC a while ago with Ryzen 5 5600 + Arc B580 so good news for me 
not fixes but significantly reduces from what it looks like 
Yep always model> brand
Why tf is it always me now ;-;
Choosen one
Yeah we only ping @lost fossil in this chat
Maybe @cold elbow but she never does anything anyway
Shut up pepegauss
she join the chat
hate every moment
leaves
She's my biggest hater fr
You can buy my silence with cat pics
@lost fossil ore

I'll take my suggestion as considered, then 
Wow, Duviet has 40 messages here 
tech
gigabyte mo27q28g global release was supposed to be today but it's like
not available
amazinf
proshop has it listed but delivery eta mid november
Regardless, i wouldn't go for that card in this day and age, unless you need all that VRAM.
Alr
e
e

3080ti >
there’s like a 2-3% difference in performance
And here they’re about $200 cheaper
why go for a 3000 series card when 6000 is lowkey about to release?
Budget and availability.
About to release
That's like 2028
Way after gta 6
For reference
6000 series before gta6
The fuck? That "about to" is like 2+ years?
i dont need to get a 5090
You don't decide that
i do actually, youre not my mom
Are you sure


We are not talking English?
No
no we are typing
this is pure brainrot
Nah
yah

to get back on topic, yeah i thought 6000 series is gonna release next year or something, but apparently not
eh, 3080 runs BF6 fine
The supers are coming next year, allegedly
5090 super
boring ass midlife upgrade
5100
just gonna grab a 6080 in two years or so
@coarse aurorai love ur status
why are you being delusional rn
no
It's not 2020 anymore
First the 4080, now the 5080
They released the 4080 twice and it sucked twice
4080 then got cancelled to 4070ti
Then released again to that terrible price tag
Now the 5080 that barely clears 5070ti
Same vram same everything

thx lol
eh, ill just go for what fits my needs best, doesnt have to be a 6080
@thin turtle when are you gonna ask me about uni homework
did i tell you that i failed the exam with lagrange a 2nd time
review is in 3 weeks

?
Did I promise
I'm lost
its ok, im pulling the secret move of switching class schedule, which removes that class
might have to take some other exams instead tho
they havent gotten back to me which and how many
Send it again
no the lady said "it takes a few days" and i asked for it thursday afternoon
so i expect it tomorrow
wdym, i literally failed twice
3rd time the charm
absolutely not going for a third and last try if i can avoid it by switching plans
id rather have 3 exams than 1 in third try
So you're not becoming a car engineer
i am
Hmm
idk how it is at your uni, but if you fail a class 3 times youre out
so im avoiding that problem by engaging risk mitigation measures

gotta finish it until november 26 anyway, because i dont want to pay more monies
You got it this time
3rd time is the charm
Ngl if I land a job before I fully graduate I’ll probably take my time to finish whatever courses I got left
Does it have rgb
unfortunately
double yes then
triple yes then
Big gaming skills
No.
yes
Melon's answer only cancel 1 no

Can bribe her with a silent fan setting
so she will say yes
i already judge everyone
Corsair? Man her opinion is useless now 
Personal prefference is illegal now?
+keyboard doesnt mean anything
imagine i got a warn or mute or worst a kick bcus of that comment 
Ohhhhh look at me i paid 500$ for a 15% keyboard that is made from metal and custom keycaps
15%? 💀 from which key to which key lmao q to y?
Keyboard enthusiasts love that shit
I wasn’t talking to you
sorry i don't have a camera
Yes
TKL goated
Do you not own a phone?
Long thumb
Actually cheap, or your definition of cheap? 🕵️
my definition of cheap

Is it?
Expensive
Not worth
Give 900 counter offer
Final is 980
Spent most of the budget on cosmetics
They really try to inflate the price with this nonsense

Case and fan configuration is ass
That's not gonna sell at that price... unless the seller finds a gullible mom buying a PC for his fortnite kid
65 is stupid bc in the dimension where it counts, it's the same as 75% which has a lot more keys
Wtf is a f row
The worst place for media control keys to be
a row of dedicated keys for easy access to the most popular slurs
F1 to f12?
and the forgotten and disrespected F13 to F24
Then f24 = 200% keyboard? Ahahahah
sub-100% keyboards are so painful to me
yes, they look good
but you're probably using a three button mouse with it
and I know you're not setting your frequently used hotkeys to Win + Ctrl + Alt + Shift + L
context sensitive hotkeys
boom
though i have considered a macropad just for cool buttons
context sensitive hotkeys are a bandaid
hotkeys are for controlling programs not in focus!
now macropads, yes!
you're just using an extra USB port to hook up the numpad you chopped off
but i don't want a numpad on the right
but they look cool so its okay
It sorta is
I mean who needs that much cpu and ram but only a 5060ti
A 5060ti is mainly just a budget gaming card
I mean, with ReBar, you can use that ram. I use up to 25 gigs total system memory usage playing cyberpunk
Might aswell pair it with like an i5 12400f
out of 32
windows will use what it needs, so 64 isn't as overkill as it was like, 10 years ago
What I’m saying is, the target audience is clearly gamers, but the specs are misaligned
32 works just fine ngl
And these ddr5 sticks are expensive
I’m guessing they just wanted to fill in all the slots
Being able to show up in the search results for "i7" makes a huge difference
Window tax like 20% frfr
the only letter in the right spot is c
yeah what's up with that 
Hi community
wrong chat
I have a confession
did you can'ts reads musics?
were you travelled to brazil?

yes 

They have nylons.
Yes
What does that mean

U first
I don't enjoy programming and thus don't require programming socks
Really
Yes
Send proof
Send proof that I don't like to do programming?
No the other part
Give him socks anyway
winter is coming, too...
i don't
Bro is a poet
hahaha
What is going on here
tech-coding-socks
So my C: drive keeps getting full, how do i keep it clean?
have self control
Install things in different places and stop downloading lots of adult videos
Shadowplay also saves onto c drive, change the file path
There's also that program which shows you your biggest files on a drive as boxes, but I forgot the name
@lost fossil what's the name
can i move my appdata folder somewhere else?
I don't think
We know
How many drives u have
3
Is C the largest?
Well then keep the system files only there
Everything else should be moved
You can move steam games from steam
And media shall be moved manually
why would there be steam games on my boot drive
Well
wiztree
even if i move my appdata folder to a different drive, whever something need to put stuff in there it will create a appdata folder on my C drive anyway
you can't move the app data folder
Yeah it's a system file ig
it's like moving the windows folder - you just cant
Expand your c drive

@fallow forge use that to check which files are the biggest and act accordingly
@lost fossil bought a couch for the goon cave
Appdata is almost 70gb and i cant do anything about it
some shitty apps store all their stuff there
for example, discord
also for steam games on the boot drive
That's all the terabytes in the world
emptied recycle bin and for whatever reason it had 21gb of stuff in it, weird since i cleaned it last week but that gave me enough space
Fucking LIAR
What's that abbreviation for
Lying
Idiot
A
R
Rich
lying
idiot
asshole
uhh... 
Real-estate
Yeah A and R were too mean so I left them out :)
ar gang 
AR truly paved the way to VR for me
augmented reality?
nah, Arma-Lite
yes
not ultimate enough 

im not the one to say this but dont let oreo use emojis
as a starter to make my pc look at least halfway appealing to look at
i could save money by taking one of the 3-packs out and putting in a normal 3-pack instead, ill save 30€
im saving 15 actually
next step would be to upgrade the gpu to a 7800xt like this one
or buy a 9070xt for two times the price of the 7800xt
i think the 7800xt is fine for a few years at least 
nzxt 
what else would i put in a case but parts that are designed for the case (fans are a choice)
Lian Li s 
i did not
A sofa?
Yeah but I did
Is it possible to launch two GTA Online same time on 1 pc?
yes
What else I need than 2 accounts?
2 PCs
hmm
Does integrated gpu work
I need both if other account is on background / I play with one account at time ?
yes
Ok ty
Mikko
Lumbago
I want to try
Actually I have a chance to use another monitor

kd farming
no
Lumbago kd 500
Gauss kd -500
I don't have a 2nd character
Then we switch
Make it
No
Yes
What you do with kd
I farm it
To flex?
To farm
tryhard 
Tryeasy
Pc offer:
•CPU: i7 14700kf 14th gen
•M/B:Msi z790 gaming plus wifi ddr5
•RAM: G-skill z5 32GB 6400mhz
•Darkflash dlx4000 +5 inf24 fans
•PSu 850w gold 80+
•Darkflash Dx360 v2.6 liquid cooler
•RTX 4070 12GB msi
•kingston nv3 1tb nvme
Now they drop this
Performs better and is $350 chesper 
not bad except the ssd
which is like the cheapest thing to change
it is 
I’m not looking to buy
😩
It’s just funny seeing the builds they’re putting together
Yeah compared to the 5060ti buikd I sent earlier with 64gb of ddr5 for $350 more
this local PC place near me is selling PCs with an RTX 4070 for $3500 lmao
It’s pretty good 
Skull
I’ll build my own pc not gonna buy one of these prebuilt garbage
300$ for worker
100$ tax and 100$ for food 
And 100 for me
hope its a normal 4070 fr
it is
pny , zotac?
wait wait hope its a good 4070 else the buyer getting scammed so hard
i dont think these fit my case
sure they do fit my case but they arent what im looking for in the build
this looks really cool
there is also this version of the f120
but imo they look HELLA ugly
the rings around the fans implement lighting into the build but dont overdo it
does that make any sense or am i waffling
rgb bad
hot take - slapping a ring of leds around an otherwise regular fan does not make it an rgb one
looking at u bequiet
bequite!
True... but what is it then? a ring around a fan? sure, not an rgb fan but it looks better in my eyes
depends on how well the blades reflect the light
Do rgb fans use brushes to power the led
Well they must
Since the blades are spinning

imo its good but my only complaint is the fan texture
Or maybe they take power from the motor
This will not power the rgb from the motor
they have a wire coming into the fan and i guess it does use brushes, just inside the fan
Unreliable
Maybe they are a bldc
actually yeah that might be it
the housing is already round so yeah possibly

You're so smart
I'm inspired
As per my research, there's an RGB ring on the motor stator
So the fan blades just hover over this ring and carry the light
RealGarBage 
But there are fans that have the leds integrated into the blades which use brushes, and are considered "high end"
@lost fossil do you listen to molchat doma
no but i've heard of them
Thanks

np 

ummmm wtf?
User friendly

man he might as well just use like 1 or 2 AIO to cool it when he can afford roman's open frame test bench lol
i was thinking a threadripper cooler
incredible
where's the post talking about how much faster it is than the future RTX 7090 at antutu or geekbench ios edition or whatever
sata power to 3pin fan header
daisychained fans such as arctic p12
or daisy chain
i could buy 3 3-packs with fan hubs and one individual one to use all 4 but is there a more efficient way
how would daisy chaining work?
oh alr
how about daisy chaining the argb cables?
would that be the same procedure
pins 
ok i think i understand
not like im going to need that anyways but would daisy chaining the argb cables make the fans not customizable individually?
no, argb can be individual still
Depending on how you control it, software might ask for LED count in each fan or something
wait i thought argb can
but rgb cant 
are the p12 rgb?
argb
yea thats fine
the fans im looking at are rgb though 
that is 1 colour only
hmm argb is a really big upgrade
do you mean i can address only one color to the fans at once?
True...
depending on the controller
if its just relaying a rgb header, there wont be individual control. If its USB it might support each fan individually, but no cool effects. Just pure colour and rainbow effect

im not sure how many fans the controller can take at once
3 fan channels but i can add more by daisy chaining rgb cables
afaik minimum = 4-5 fans
daisy chain
🌻⛓️
wrong flower
buy one 3-pack and then buy the rest individually
bundle always cheaper than individual 
nuh the 3-packs come with an rgb controller
the price of one fan is 33€ for a reverse fan, and the pack is 110€
sure thats a 10€ difference but thats 30€ if i buy 3 bundles
the numbers for the "normal" fans are 27€ and 95€ btw, thats like uuuuh
14€ difference
3 pst fan with controller + X amount of individual pst fans? 
yep
wait let me check how much itll cost
334€
wtf how many fans are there
thats with the reverse fans individually
10
10 cost 334 euro?
10x 5pack bundle? 
wait which fan btw? shit cost alot per fan dam
1+3 f120 and 6 f120 duo
omygod 
the ppx is 33€ for the duos and 27€ for normals
i would buy all f120's but i cant find ones with reverse blades
man let me show u some good ones since u aint gonna look at ur pc 24/7 anyways 
i like the former more than the latter
even lian li's SL is cheaper god dang nzxst cost alot
wait let me check
oh those ones
more better is SL infinite still cheaper than ur f120 lmao
"infinity mirror argb fan"
huh
why
ooooooh the infinity mirror is on the side or the center
yeah.........
and lets see the price difference
way cheaper 💀
one sl-inf is 30€
one sl is also 30€
o wait nvm usd to euro convert rate 
thats actually the reverse blade one, there is no normal sl120 in white
we have a 25,5€ vat here, so take that into account 
the white 120mm infinity fan is 27€
a 3 pack is 105€
nzxt tax
the reverse is 34€
wait ill check what the site says
its $40
the same fan in proshop is 27€
funnily enough the duo is cheaper on nzxts own website
here you need to pay attention
a lot of daisychain rgb fans just split the signal which is bad
how tf does duouououou cheaper than normal
or just classic nzxt tax
i know that arctic p12 and prob other arctics do not though
i mean, arctic just keeps stacking Ws
~~if u want to daisy chain fan just get fan that have pogo pins
~~
That's a lot of money to waste
well im kinda in the planning phase
sure, i could go with arctic p12's but i want to incorporate some lighting into this build
sadly these are the only ones that do it right for me
There are p12 with rgb
sure
but i think (for the vision i have) they dont do the job
YES
i dont like how this looks
sure, i can address it to be only one color
but even then its too much light
this is an example from google images
real
and also when the fans themselves have light, they are clear white
like, ew
yes i checked their fans, they are... ok, but the price difference is a couple euro
plus they dont have the normal blade white 120mm's in store
they only have reverse blades
there are 3 kinds of fans now that im looking at it:
- light around fan housing
- light around fan
- light in fan
- Led strip
the fan housing ones are ok, i can see how they would work out, but the ones ive seen are not round, but instead octagonal
Or
5. Bigass screen
HUH
these are the cheapest fans one can find 🥀
but what the hell are fans with screens on them 😭
fans don't need screens you have a monitor for that
look up phanteks halos
whats this supposed to be? like an addon that makes the otherwise round fans square?
no you can put it on a regular fan and turn it into an rgb one
the two middle fans on the pic that you posted are non-rgb with these frames
oooh thats cool
imagine if there was a white one
there is a gray one and thats it 
also, what did you mean by this?
@lost fossil hey :)
ok rude
ghosted 

I see someone capping
Stop hating
true... but these two were not created equal
who wants to do setup rescue ulp with me ps4 edition
the other one has implemented the rgb lights elegantly and subtly and the other one is corsair
lmfao
lol even
in tech coding math of all channels
!lfg
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Hi lebron
get outta here, at least go to community ffs 😂
Why are you kicking him out

Can neurolink simulate smell
This place smell so nice
Need 100×
ok @runic timber what kind of pc fans do you like more:
- the kinds with a ring of light around them and opaque fans
- the kinds with translucent fans with light on them
I'm selling my soul to Elon musk
I like the ones that work
Stimulate *
but like, look how elegant the lighting is, the matte black finish on the blades and a ring of light around them
idk if you tickle your brain enough you might see johnny silverhand so maybe
🤮
Or do they
Rude
hell yeah
opaque blades >>>>> translucent blades
I love you
do they come in white?
no
F12
oh alr
racism ❤️

they have polar white products
oh wait yeah i do have an all white cpu cooler from them
they have p12's
P for perfect
this kind?
they do NOT have a 5-pack for the white fans
true
why are u snitching says a lot abt u lil bro
damn 😔
anyways, now that you are here can you give your opinion on this then 
as you chose tech coding math as your lfg channel
i dont play pc

i asked for your preference, like which looks better in your opinion
the other one
so you like the full light ones better
this looks like p12 pro right 
ask ur nose 
We already concluded that the F are F fans in terms of looks
I didn't see that collective conclusion
How do i make a usb windows boot
You'll need youtube for that
Anyone here had experience with a "segmentation fault (core dumped)" error in c
nope
It's something to do with trying to access memory or change it in a way that isn't allowed but I can't for the life of me figure out where
found it holy shit
it actually worked somehow
and they are actual images which the program "recovered" from the "sd card" lmao
peak coding
there are two white 9070 xts on the market, powercolor red devil and hellhound spectral white
which one would be better? i dont see any differences except the thickness and the price
sapphire pure also 
red devil is a 3x8 pin card while hellhound is 2x8
oh yeah that too
787€, between both of the cards
the cheapest out of them is the hellhound
Technically downgraded but im so glad to be back on the S24 Ultra. The S25 Ultra was not doing it for me
why not
and i think the hellhound looks the best too 
imo sapphire pure looks clean
argb yea 
just for the addressable light i might just cop it
make the color black = +fps
this looks cool 
stress testing or what?
gamering
that one dont need to worry
just worry gpu's temp 
oki :D
i gotta adjust the fan curves a bit, the cpu is getting a lil toasty with 80C
AIO cool it 
It's already a custom loop :D

a loop just for ur gpu 
Might just go back to air cooling once I get a new gpu
no! aio cool it too

Does anyone else's:
often reset for no reason at all
It says all taskbars but it actually isn't functioning that way until I change it to something else and then back
Otherwise my second taskbar only has the windows which are open on that monitor
And it's annoying asf to change it every time
Maybe it's time to do windows update 
No it works as intended for me
I honestly kinda like the "only show where it's active thing"
Keeps things cleaner when you have lots of stuff open on multiple monitors
That's fair but sometimes I have a game open on my main, I'm using my second, and I want to pull something up over my game
I can do it from the second monitor
It also just looks kinda weird to me I'm just used to it
I don't see how the other setting stops you from that?
Just move the window
I mean, the window is already on my main, just minimised
I know I can alt tab but I like to select it from the taskbar
so I can click it from my second monitor
Oh yeah makes sense
It depends on the game, sometimes you have to tab out anyway to get the mouse out
But I'm just used to this
if a game don't have windowed fs then
idk
usually you can move the mouse over
Maybe I just have some games in full screen instead of windowed 
idk I don't play that anymore
neither do I shit game
Yeah fuck that
play minecraft instead 😎
actually what do you play, gauss
HD2?
:Yeah I need to alt tab for R* games
Congrats
shitass R* as usual
I don't like HD2 that much...it's ok for one mission and then I get bored
Melon keeps hating me for that
Be careful they will fire you
She likes shooting bots
Yeah
If that means they'll set me on fire then I'll be glad
Please take this to modmail
I've got my couch now and will maybe buy the TV next week, so I might finally get to do actual couch gaming again (but with a pc and not a console)
Build
TV 
so no more projector shenanigans
Yeah it didn't work as planned and I've given up on it lmao
Why did you go for a projector in the first place
is it space
I mean TVs are not that expensive anymore
I couldn't find a suitable TV mount and I liked the idea of a hidden setup with the projector in the couch table and a roll up screen
But I found a TV mount now
169,00 € ✓ Vertikal- & Vollbewegliche TV Wandhalterung Die vollbewegliche TV Wandhalterung ist seitlich verschiebbar. Erleben Sie mit ...
It pulls out and down, which means I can have it over my pc desk and then pull in front of the monitors
It's made for fireplaces but it works for my setup as well
That's lit
Also says "up to 65"" but I wanna get a 75"...should still work, eh? It's within the weight limit
You can use it as a third monitor if you ever need to but you'll break your neck a litle
I can't believe some people set up their monitors on top of each other on purpose
Yeah that's so weird and neck hurtin
i might do that
Noooo
i mean i have 2 side by side but it's not great
Do one vertical
maybe
I'd love one of those wireless ipad like monitors
I can put it in under my main since it's pretty high
hard to fit anything when you want to have 25cm wide speakers in an equilateral triangle with the seating position
Yeah but like...what do you put on that? It's tiny
They're like 18 inches
Get an ultra wide and call it a day
no
Then suffer
What's ultrawide good for other than like, sim racing or whatever
ultrawide might be good if literally all media on the internet wasn't made for 16:9
or 9:16 now with the mobile age
god i fucking hate mobile first web design
Imagine the insane simultaneous brainrot you could do with a bunch of 9:16 feeds next to each other on an ultra wide monitor
🤩 🤩 🤩 🤩
is this why there was that discord quest promo not too long ago? 
good thing i didn't play it
🤝
The only skating game I played was uh
Skate 2 just released a beta, no?
tony hawk's pro skater
tony hawk pro skatuah
Truah
Tony Hawktua
so tuah besties 
Id let you tua my tony every day
GTA
burnout revenge
san andreas?
Idk, whatever is available
there was this assasin creed like game
Prince of persia
Bro Tekken is not like AC
tekken is a street fighter thing

i have a ps1 but can't find the games
or memory cards
You can grab the old ACs for a couple of bucks
the only game i found was f1 98
i thought it was the ps3 that had no games?
it was maybe something something warriors
Dynasty warriors?
Mane idk these graphics look so bad I don't remember it looking like this
I had lot of animu games
naruto and onepiece and stuff
Hogwarts legacy is on a pretty huge discount
should I buy or is it still running like dogshit
not enough game for the 12€ or whatever it costs
I mean, I just wanna try something new
But is it still suffering from performance issues
Iirc it has an issue with frametimes being very inconsistent
and choppy gameplay overall
wow it's just like every modern game ever!

Oh yeah it also got added to gamepass
Maybe its decent idk
And also hogwarts legacy does always go on a huge discount from what i can remember
Guys i dont understand this😭
I dropped my ps5 Controller (Not to hard nothing broke) and now whenever i'm outside of a Game X works, but when i'm any Kind of Game x doesnt Work anymore. I restarted my Controller, my Playstation nothing works
Cooked
Have you played factorio?
satisfactory 
Cheap, worse copy
satisfactory more expensive than factorio (my currency) 
more good reviews than factorio 
Lies, heresy
Factorio used to be the 2nd highest rated game on steam (before the price adjustment)
i aint a lying 
now became sheep 🐑
Let's play satisfactory
my map right now = 15-30fps max (all low) for me 
I hate you
Factorio doesn't dip below 60 unless you're very far into megabases
I love you too
Like you're mum loving it
Factorio is expensive
small base 
Never goes onnsale
Omg I'll buy rn
this just for last year's christmas event lmao
'cleaner' version of it
Can't your watercooled gpu handle a indie game
this game iirc is cpu heavy
rmb this is like 5-9% of my map 
What urs
5500 
even if i oc it still gonna struggle i highly believe is bcus of less L3 
not soo soon
maybe am6 who knows 
Hmm
Youre rich
Tiny

So I'm not sure what's happening but every time I open chrome it loads adult videos and shows my history full of that stuff and my downloads but the thing is I never view that content, is my computer infected or is this a bug
factorio but 3d
You downloaded the wrong Minecraft.exe
You can fix that yourself
or bring the PC to your local pc shop
Don't ask me how cuz the last time I had to do that was like 12yrs ago
I just want to stress how surprised I was at the whole thing
it is not it is
Hmm no
Sounds like a game where you run a factory or something
One of my case fans is shaking a little, and if you get real close it sounds like a truck with a very unstable idle
800€ for a gpu but i wont have to upgrade it in a decade…….
So when I play ETS2 I can feel everything
Doubt that exists
who needs a subwoofer or a buttkicker when you can loosely install your case fans and place the pc under your chair
well the 3060 still holds up
Yes and it's basically a virtual crack for any engineer

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Interesting
but also i dont think ill be alive long enough to see the 9070xt become weak…
Lumbo recommended me steam engine simulator or something
You will in 4 years 
I feel like, it’s more about what’s coming next that determines how "powerful" a GPU will still be
If nvidia drops a gaming GPU 500% faster than the 5090 next, game devs will start making games that can make use of that power
Nah, factorio better
But will not perform on slightly older hardware
I've got over 1k hours in it and barely scratched the surface of what's possible
Yesssss
apple earpods, now with a concealable subwoofer













