tech-coding-math

[stone apex]

would've.

[lost fossil]

i would've gone for a cheaper phone if there was one with no hole punch in the lower price range

[craggy thicket]

Banned ghost_yourkiller (Case #393812) (user notified with a direct message)

[quaint helm]

Sometimes i rmb rog phone exist

[quaint helm]

@thin turtle quick question do uk some aerodynamic stuff for case fan let say 2 different fan from different company but their spec is almost the same, will the airflow mess up or what

[nova steppe]

no

[civic cloud]

no

[void turret]

no

[quaint helm]

mmm time to do some DIY asus fan push air , p12 max pull air time to fix my most fked up airflow pc fr....

[lost fossil]

🇬🇧

[thin turtle]

The aesthetic will be ruined

[quaint helm]

full black pc idc about aesthetic

i disable every possible light in my pc

[thin turtle]

But I care

[quaint helm]

i will cut the argb and rgb cable infront of u

[void turret]

Hell yeah

[lost fossil]

i disable and enable all lights in my PC with a press of a button

[thin turtle]

I press all the light in my pc

[quaint helm]

only light that i cant disable =cpu/ram check light on mobo (only happen during i OCing)

mmm 3 p12 max (bought it for 25$ ish) coming soon

[civic cloud]

Just buy a case without window

[void turret]

Thats what I did

[civic cloud]

smort

[quaint helm]

nah i need to see my fan spinning at least

have to make sure the fan is alive

[civic cloud]

Your pc will give you a temp warning if it doesn't work anymore

[civic cloud]

@lost fossil

They be doing the thing

Thank you oreo

[quaint helm]

welcome

[nova steppe]

do the opposite fans

[quaint helm]

this is what i kinda want to do (my art skill sucks) (dark red = stock fans + a 240mm aio , pink = p12 m , yellow = asus fan and lime green = silverstone's fan (yes i have alot fans)

[civic cloud]

Never go into UI Design

[civic cloud]

Why are they just floating there

[quaint helm]

zip tie

[civic cloud]

So you just have two fans behind each other??

[quaint helm]

the 'floating' one?

or the top dark red one (if top dark red = theres a 240mm AIO in between i just lazy to draw)

[civic cloud]

The floating one

[civic cloud]

Yes I can read

[civic cloud]

Literally circled them

[quaint helm]

top floating = i just want to direct the airflow straight from front to back instead of having bad airflow around the ram , bottom floating = direct air to gpu

[civic cloud]

Why the fuck would you do that?

You have two fans in the front doing the exact same?

Now you just have two fans behind them (ugly) doing the same

If you REALLY want to direct airflow to the components you need a plastic shroud, not extra fans

[civic cloud]

"why"
"Ziptie"

[quaint helm]

Shhhh u gonna ruin it

[civic cloud]

??????? Why do you ask then

[thin turtle]

Hi

Today I tested a transformer

[civic cloud]

and

Did it transform

[thin turtle]

You wish it did

[civic cloud]

:(

[cosmic moss]

can the human brain perceive any noticable difference between 165hz and 240hz

[stark chasm]

yes

[cold elbow]

Yes

But barely

In exchange for a lot more demand from your hardware

[lost fossil]

and wallet

[quaint helm]

life cycle of a laptop

[rapid lake]

[vagrant crown]

If you have older siblings it feels a bit like this

Being given their taped up hand me downs

[civic arch]

go for 360hz

[quartz kayak]

today i went to the store to watch the phones

and i saw the new xiaomi

ithink it was the 15 pro

are xiaomis bad

my cousin had one and it had ads and didnt have google

[quaint helm]

Just samsung but chinese

[quartz kayak]

samsung is korean

basically the same no?

[thin turtle]

[upbeat spade]

afaik xiaomi's cheaper model lines have ads in them built in
it's supposedly super easy to turn them off, but i suspect this how xiaomi is able to sell phones to lower-income countries (and be very successful, xiaomi and redmi are quite popular in lower income countries)
their higher model lines shouldn't have ads in them aside from perhaps their inbuilt bloatware like their cleaner app

xiaomi isn't huawei and has a significant presence outside of china in countries that still largely rely on google services, so for the most part they can't viably sell a phone globally without google services

your cousin may have imported a chinese domestic market phone instead

[quaint helm]

[thin turtle]

[quaint helm]

yescat

[civic cloud]

Guys

Can you mod an old mobo to have a tpm 2 module so win11 works

No I don't want to do some software fuckery, it's just for my parents

My mom is too lazy to take the laptop upstairs to do banking stuff (don't ask)

[fickle finch]

Do you have a pc downstairs

[civic cloud]

No it's upstairs

And my mom wants to do banking on the "big screen"

And not on the laptop

[fickle finch]

Laptop has no hdmi port?

[civic cloud]

Upstairs is my old desktop (6700K, 1060, H170)

[snow rover]

software fuckery will be much easier

[civic cloud]

she doesn't want to use a dock and doesn't want to "always carry the laptop upstairs"

So it must be something new, in her mind

[fickle finch]

So why doesn't she use the pc that's upstairs which has the big screen?

[lost fossil]

you're a big boi just get her another computer,preferrably a mini smol one that can be doublesidedtaped to the back of the tv

[fickle finch]

Smoll Mini PC

[civic cloud]

It's old and won't run win11

[lost fossil]

GOOGLING "tpm usb" on aliexpress gives a couple of results

but these modules have a special connector which your mobo might not have

[civic cloud]

I'm back from my mute

[civic cloud]

Do these work

My idea would be to buy her a proper dock and force her to use the laptop instead of buying something new

[lost fossil]

i remember looking something up (don't remember what exactly tho) and there was something about an external tpmodule that used that exact connector

[wispy mesa]

Is windows 11 a must? like what was used previously? why not continue to use that

[lost fossil]

https://aliexpress.com/item/1005009066394580.html

something like that

[civic cloud]

my noob understanding was that win10 will stop getting security updates, which doesn't seem like a good idea when the only use case for that pc is to pay bills with online banking

[lost fossil]

long-term approach

this gigabyte mobo has a way different connector for tpm

[civic cloud]

Heck

[quaint helm]

who want asrock mobo frfr

[lost fossil]

nice heat shields they got across all over the everything

[quaint helm]

plastics

[rapid lake]

New router aquired

[quaint helm]

never heard of cudy b4

[rapid lake]

I think the issue is my router not handling the amount of packets being sent and received

[rapid lake]

I bet you’ve never heard of netis either

[lost fossil]

but i have

[rapid lake]

Brands aside this is dual band

[quaint helm]

nope never

[rapid lake]

And uses 5ghz

[lost fossil]

and i have also heard of cudy

[rapid lake]

Well yeah you’re russian

[lost fossil]

we are both from 4th world countries

[quaint helm]

or maybe bcus tp-link monopoly in my country 💀 so i can say everytime routers i see = tplink thats all

[rapid lake]

Yeah we used to have tplink

Again this router comes with the 100mbps ethernet cable bruh

[quaint helm]

here its either normal tplink or overpriced asus routers.....zen , tuf , rog

[thin turtle]

Show me the buffer bloat test

[rapid lake]

Lasted a good 5 years or so

Time to decommission this soldier

[thin turtle]

[rapid lake]

I did some testing

[thin turtle]

You can use TMeter to limit you Internet speed to something that will reduce buffer bloat

But I don't recommend if your Internet is already slow

[rapid lake]

And when sending longer packets the router starts to lose a lot of them

Or deiver then late

[quaint helm]

this shit looks scary to run on my 3060

[rapid lake]

Also when increasing the rate of packets same thing happens but even worse

[thin turtle]

[rapid lake]

And I tried everything from contacting my isp to different devices, LAN cables, ports on the router etc

[rapid lake]

I tried limiting, also tried increasing the bandwidth so it doesn’t top out

[thin turtle]

[rapid lake]

So

I am using this test

I tried many different combinations of packet sizes and frequency of pings

50% packet loss when I put both to the max

which is like

2440 bytes and 300 pings a second

but that isn't normal conditions right/

The router would never have to do that much work

In other tests it was 0% but sometimes got late packets

What's like the normal range for say playing an fps game

[thin turtle]

What's this tryhard test

Bufferbloat and Internet Speed Test - Waveform https://share.google/tMjMxKoB41LPLtlDX

Use

[quaint helm]

[rapid lake]

oh this

under load latency will go to about 80 according to ookla speed test

[civic cloud]

@lost fossil accept fr

[lost fossil]

https://youtu.be/OibVY-q2SAw?t=185 it now makes sense why 50/50 are flying off the shelves

if they have 24th gen raytracing cores, it's clear

[rapid lake]

Although the new router has twice as many antennas and is much beefier it covers less range

The repeater is getting 68% signal strength which is bad

[thin turtle]

Damn son

F+

[rapid lake]

I might just run an ethernet cable from the router to the repeater but I need to google something first

[thin turtle]

You should limit the Internet speed to 44 ish while gaming

Should reduce your bufferbloat

[thin turtle]

Run a cable from the router to the pc

[thin turtle]

I laughed at this media

[quartz kayak]

Same

Realtable

[rapid lake]

The repeater sits on top of the PC

Why not plug into the repeater, get morw wifi

[thin turtle]

Copper loss

[cold elbow]

[thin turtle]

Now he will do his research and refute me

[civic cloud]

Hello lebago james

[thin turtle]

Hello gus

It's always to have you around

Nice

[civic cloud]

Thank you :) it's always interesting to see ur new name

[rapid lake]

Perhaps

I still don’t understand how that works though

[rapid lake]

Barely makes any difference

[thin turtle]

[thin turtle]

This was legit wrong ping

But lemme explain

[rapid lake]

[thin turtle]

So if your isp gives you a bandwidth of 50Mbps, and you have a router that's bad when handling full bandwidth utilisation

It cause a phenomenon called bufferbloat

So to fix that, you shall get a router that has a feature that I don't remember

[rapid lake]

QoS?

[thin turtle]

Yeah

[rapid lake]

Or smart queue

I’ll get a new router in 5 years when this one breaks

[thin turtle]

Or you limit your Internet speed to just below the bandwidth

[rapid lake]

Ok but what does that do

[thin turtle]

It remove the bufferbloat and hence you get less latency

This fix affects your PC alone

I will show you an example once I get home

[rapid lake]

Yeah but how

How does it remove the bufferbloat

[thin turtle]

Aha you a want a chatgpt ass answer

@rapid lake

Enjoy the terrible quality noob

There I put it in a pdf

[cold elbow]

Or you just set the download limit to something lower than your internet speed

It's all what that router does

[thin turtle]

Yes I said that under there

Both download and upload can benefit from this

[jovial tide]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlY2QjP_-9s

[lost fossil]

jay-z comes in clutch again

[cold elbow]

the man

the legend

[rapid lake]

It doesn’t make sense to me but alright

[quaint helm]

jay zee cents

[rapid lake]

Jizzle cents

[thin turtle]

What doesn't make sense

[quaint helm]

jessie scents

[thin turtle]

[quaint helm]

bcus its chat geebeetee so it doesnt make sense

[thin turtle]

• Your bandwidth is limited.
• You router is bad at prioritising traffic.
• If you only send 90% of your bandwidth, then you don't have to worry about your router incompetence.

Imagine

You are playing a shooter game

A lot of data exchange on the network

Then your dad is sending a video through WhatsApp

Now your router will give your dad more bandwidth than he needs

And your game will choke

This is one of the reasons

If you send less than the maximum bandwidth, then you don't have to worry about other users in the network

It happens more through wifi

You see

If you were to use all the available bandwidth

The router will panic if another user tries to use some of the nonexistent bandwidth

And then something funky happens to your ping

[nova steppe]

All of this is why I just made sure they put the gateway in my room when we got new internet

[thin turtle]

[civic cloud]

Guys, my projector arrived :)

It worky

[rapid lake]

But if you have less bandwidth how does that help in any way

[rapid lake]

Why

If you let the router have only 90% of the total bandwidth you get from your ISP, it’s just gonna do the same thing but it’ll be slower

Either you’re bad at explaining or I’m bad at understanding

[civic cloud]

The screen is too large, even with max zoom 💀

Why the fuck is my floor blue

wtf phone

[thin turtle]

Games don't use a lot of data to send input, but you'll be clogging the data path anyway. Therefore, due to your greed it will backfire.

Like, the router will not prioritise your game

Simple as that, it will try to cut supply because you're not using all of the bandwidth you're occupying

But then, because the router is dumb, it will do a bad job

[thin turtle]

No

This isn't an Internet speed issue

It's a router issue

[thin turtle]

Idk how to explain any further

Look it up on YouTube idk

@rapid lake it's worth mentioning that this fixes the local bufferbloat.

Like from your PC only

Anything I said before that don't align with this is false

[civic cloud]

The reverse zoom isn't enough so the screen is a lil wide, but the soundbar connects just fine 😎

[proper sundial]

Good to hear, if you want the full screen then it must be far

[civic cloud]

No I want it smaller lmao

but it's ok, it will go onto the couch table instead of behind the couch

[thin turtle]

@rapid lake but but

If you limit the whole network then it will be a global fix

I will explain better in vc

Cba to write another paragraph

[vagrant crown]

Your place looks like one of them showrooms at new developments

So tidy

I used to have a tidy place, then I had a child.

[thin turtle]

You replace the tidiness with happiness 😊

[rapid lake]

That’s what I’m gonna try anyways

Pretty sure every router has a bandwidth control setting

[civic cloud]

Thanks :) the floor must be empty for the vacuum robot

[thin turtle]

No

[rapid lake]

Well the old one did

[thin turtle]

That's the fun part

[thin turtle]

Nice

[rapid lake]

This one should

[vagrant crown]

I had a vacuum robot once…..

[thin turtle]

I pray it does

[rapid lake]

But tbh it’s not that big of a deal now

[civic cloud]

I love it, she's called Roberta

[thin turtle]

AQL

The word is AQL

[rapid lake]

Last two weeks been hell so playing with packet loss every once in a while is heaven

[thin turtle]

Not QoS

[rapid lake]

I’m glad I can just play

[vagrant crown]

Yeah mine was great, then I had a child

[thin turtle]

[rapid lake]

What I needed to google was

Interference with the power cables

[thin turtle]

I'm offended on behalf of the robot

[rapid lake]

It’s a thing but the cables we use are "shielded" so it don’t need much clearance

Still the tubes are not very wide and there aren’t tubes dedicated for ethernet cables

[thin turtle]

No telephone lines?

Like Lebanon is one of these countries yk

Telephone lines and shi

[rapid lake]

Every meter of cat6e is like 30 cents so it’s worth a shot

[rapid lake]

We do, well we did until they got ripped during the war and almost a year later still aren’t fixed

But I don’t think they have dedicated tubes

[thin turtle]

Ah

[rapid lake]

If they do they’re really thin

I’ll check ‘em out

[thin turtle]

What about cat5e

[rapid lake]

Idk

[thin turtle]

Should be cheaper

[rapid lake]

But this is already cheap asf

[thin turtle]

Y3

I have cat6

It happily supports the 400Mbps download

[rapid lake]

I don’t think we’ll need more than like 20 meters

Depends on the tubing

[rapid lake]

Ofc

Do you know about microwave internet?

[thin turtle]

Not yet

Isn't that 5G

Or 6G

I remember the whole scandal about 5G is that the frequency is very high

Closer to microwave than radio

[civic cloud]

Idiots idioting about it

[thin turtle]

But microwave ain't that bad too

[civic cloud]

Microwave has 2.45GHz

[thin turtle]

[civic cloud]

Like, the one in the kitchen

[thin turtle]

So 5G is more

I would start a conspiracy too ngl

[civic cloud]

5G is 700MHz, 2.1GHz or ~3.6GHz

[thin turtle]

Oh but the WiFi has a 5GHz option

What's that about

[quartz kayak]

@upbeat spade teflon tape!

[civic cloud]

around 5.2 and 5.6GHz

[quartz kayak]

The tips were too big

So i just borrowed teflon tape from the tollbox

Trolbogs

[thin turtle]

Should I be worried about getting cooked alive

[civic arch]

yes

[thin turtle]

[civic cloud]

No, eigenfrequency for water is 2.45Ghz

If you want to learn more about frequencies, this page is great https://www.radartutorial.eu/07.waves/Waves and Frequency Ranges.en.html

tbf it's a lil more about radars, but still

[thin turtle]

Yay

So it need to be just right

I love this eigen word

My eigenheight is 185 cm

[civic cloud]

Good table from Belgium which frequencies are blocked for what

https://www.ibpt.be/operateurs/plan-des-frequences

[civic cloud]

No it isnt

[thin turtle]

[civic cloud]

Germany has that as well, but I couldn't find a nice graph for it

[thin turtle]

This in French

What's wrong with you

[civic cloud]

Look

It's a good table

[thin turtle]

[civic cloud]

:3

[rapid lake]

Is it weird that I get a little electrocuted near the ass of my PC

Especially around the HDMI cables

[snow rover]

ungrounded outlet

[rapid lake]

Ah

[thin turtle]

The power supply push some serious amps yk

[rapid lake]

Actually I wonder how much my PC uses

Theoretically it’s about 2 amps

If my calculations are correct

Which, for having 10A circuit is a bit much

But that’s only if CPU and GPU are at 100% which never happens

[thin turtle]

Isn't electronics limit is 5

[rapid lake]

Because GPU bottleneck

[thin turtle]

5V

So

700W psu
700/5 = 140

[rapid lake]

What’s 700

[thin turtle]

700 watts

[rapid lake]

But

[thin turtle]

P = IV

[rapid lake]

The components don’t use that much

[thin turtle]

Yeah

[rapid lake]

And my psu isn’t 700

It’s 600

[thin turtle]

120 A

[rapid lake]

What

[thin turtle]

What

[rapid lake]

It’s 220v

[thin turtle]

And

The motherboard will not take the whole 220V

[rapid lake]

Bro

You’re saying the PC draws 120 AMPS

[thin turtle]

The ICs operate on 5V

[rapid lake]

That’s insane

[thin turtle]

Or 12V

[thin turtle]

Why not

You never heard of a transformer

[rapid lake]

We’re talking about the PC as a whole

It’s getting power straight from the wall, into the PSU

[thin turtle]

The power supply is drawing the 220V not your PC

[rapid lake]

CPU and GPU combined use like 450 watts so let’s round up to 500

500/220 is 2.5 amps

[rapid lake]

Yeah I’m talking about the big picture

How many amps the PC uses at 220v, I don’t care how many it’s pulling inside the mobo with way lower voltage

Theoretically if I got a more powerful PC we’d need to get 15A circuit

[thin turtle]

Idk man

But these big Amps ain't going in one place yk

[lost fossil]

15a is like 3.3kw

the hell kind of pc are you planning

[thin turtle]

Why

What if the voltage very low

There's no way a PCB will run on 220V

Idk how to explain it

But the PSU might have a step down transformer in it, which logically it should

So from 220V to 5 or 12 depending on the IC

[civic cloud]

You're confused @thin turtle 15A would be 3.3kW on 220V

[thin turtle]

Do you not see in the afterburner that your GPU is only using 1V and drawing 300W

That's a very big current

And hence the very big heat

[thin turtle]

[lost fossil]

you seem confused

[thin turtle]

Right

[lost fossil]

that 300a current is handled by the motherboard

[rapid lake]

Well

[thin turtle]

The wall voltage is AC

The pc use dc

[lost fossil]

yes

[rapid lake]

There are other electronics in the house

[thin turtle]

[thin turtle]

Well yes tell that to had

[lost fossil]

for the longest time our entire flat was on a single 16a breaker

[rapid lake]

Yeah that’s enough for any normal person

Fridges, freezers, ACs, microwave, lights etc

10A is a bit low

[rapid lake]

But I already know that smh

[thin turtle]

Liar

[rapid lake]

I’m talking about the current the PC pulls from the wall outlet

[thin turtle]

How come there's a current without a load

[rapid lake]

Wdym

[thin turtle]

It will not be a given

[rapid lake]

With the way things are rn (10a circuit) if we have the PC, fridge, lights and two ACs running it will probably trigger the circuit breaker

[thin turtle]

Hm

[rapid lake]

That is if I’m running something really intensive on the PC so that it pulls around 2-2.5a

[thin turtle]

Get bigger breaker

[rapid lake]

But we don’t turn the 2 AC on anyways

[rapid lake]

It don’t work like that

[thin turtle]

[rapid lake]

We’d need to get higher amp current

[thin turtle]

Ah

[rapid lake]

We used to have 15a but it got too expensive

And, we used to pay a fixed price a month

Now we pay as much as we spend

[thin turtle]

So you need funny little switch to regulate your energy consumption

[thin turtle]

That's ass

[rapid lake]

Nah that’s good

[thin turtle]

I'm happy you're in a better place

[rapid lake]

We used to pay like $200 a month and we didn’t have to worry about the bill

[thin turtle]

Not good enough if you don't make muneh out of it

[rapid lake]

Because it’s always gonna be $200

[thin turtle]

That's a lot

[rapid lake]

Now if we have ACs on all the time we’ll probably end up paying double that

[thin turtle]

Damn

Your electricity be expensive

[rapid lake]

Well

Yes

[lost fossil]

the wiring might not be up to the task

[rapid lake]

Because we use diesel

[thin turtle]

[rapid lake]

And we have to import it

[thin turtle]

Rewire the house

[lost fossil]

well yeah that would be preferred but it doesn't work quite like that, not with it not being 1987

[thin turtle]

But y'all got natural gas in the C

[thin turtle]

I wish we were back to 1987

My prime days

[thin turtle]

Political innit

I think I know the answer

[rapid lake]

We got natural gas without the funds to extract it and [insert very friendly neighbouring country’s name] would want to take for themselves

[thin turtle]

You can take my gas 😊

[rapid lake]

Fill me up

[thin turtle]

Lester 😭

[rapid lake]

[rapid lake]

@thin turtle yo

This router has a lot of options

Even qos

[snow rover]

amazing

[rapid lake]

So how exactly does this work

There doesn’t seem to be any priority settings

Just bandwidth control

[lost fossil]

doesn't sound like a lot of options now

[rapid lake]

right

well, no priority queue but I set the bandwidth limit for the repeater to 35 mbps

and all other devices to 20 mbps for now

my family don't need more than that I'm sure

lemme try the bufferbloat test again

[nova steppe]

Is the cellular service in your area that bad that you're fine with these broadband speeds?

[rapid lake]

From F(fucked) to C(an work with this)

[rapid lake]

Like 4g?

If you mean with cellular service 4g, then it's not much faster and much less stable

And no we don't have 5g, hell most people don't have 4g enabled on their phone

[nova steppe]

Damn

[rapid lake]

weird how the latency doesn't increase nearly as much when uploading

even though it was using much more bandwidth

[lost fossil]

to c(ringe)

[rapid lake]

some people have fiber but coverage is so limited

Most commonly people will have DSL, ADSL, VDSL or just a cable from the local isp

And the big ISPs are greedy asf

ther is not a single isp that has unlimited fiber

And for 50 up to 300, the prices are diabolical

$60 for 2500gb

[rapid lake]

what about this D

[lost fossil]

88mbps upload smh

bad service

[rapid lake]

show the letter

[nova steppe]

It's $90 (with autopay promos) for 2 gig fiber here

[lost fossil]

autopay promos

[rapid lake]

I'd pay my whole salary for good internet man

it just doesn'e exist here

[nova steppe]

Yeah $5 off for paperless, another $5 off for autopay

[lost fossil]

i was skipping on my isp's yearly pay promo for like 7 years bc i kept thinking what if i decide to switch isp

it's smth like 1/6 off

[nova steppe]

Just go somewhere it exists and get a reallllllllly long cable.

Problem solved!

[rapid lake]

My question is how do these local isp dudes get their internet

[lost fossil]

16.667%?

[rapid lake]

I am gonna ask mine tomorrow

I wanna know

[rapid lake]

Ah yes

omg

what did I just read

I hope these are outdated

[lost fossil]

this plan is slavery

[rapid lake]

Apparently they plan to cover my area with fiber 2025-2026

[thin turtle]

what's your plan

[rapid lake]

iirc it's 40mbps

[thin turtle]

up and down?

why you gettin 8

[rapid lake]

Yeah

it doesn't use the whole bandwidth

[thin turtle]

why

[rapid lake]

Yeah up and down is same speed

[rapid lake]

I mean oleg is getting 80 lol

[lost fossil]

bad speedtest

[rapid lake]

and realistically are you really gonna be downloading a game while playing online

[thin turtle]

how much is he expecting

[rapid lake]

using the whole bandwidth

[lost fossil]

i mean i was supposed to get maybe not 800 up and down but at least 500

but it was 80

[thin turtle]

I don't have Russian Internet

[lost fossil]

which is a good thing probably

[rapid lake]

It doesn't wanna go above 8mbps down

maybe because the latency is increasing too much

anyways it's time to try some gaming again and see if anything has changed

I remember we used to get 20ms ping on fortnite in internet cafes here back in like 2021

Idk how tf they do it

[thin turtle]

I'm not sure what's going on here
but the A is after caping both upload and download to 45 ish

[rapid lake]

Closest server is in like rotterdam or smth

[thin turtle]

lemme see ookla

[rapid lake]

How is it using 390 if capped to 45

dafuq

[thin turtle]

Watch the buffer

[rapid lake]

nonexistent

[lost fossil]

maybe when you don't cap the speed, your isp's traffic shaper decides what goes through and what doesn't

[thin turtle]

Idk

[lost fossil]

and when you yourself cap it, it all gets managed properly

idk

[thin turtle]

In steam for example, the speed will appear to be limited

Well this is acting sussy today

[lost fossil]

it's just so peak 😭

[thin turtle]

after removing the limiter

[nova steppe]

I have to limit my steam downloads just so all the TVs in the house don't start buffering

[rapid lake]

in steam I get 90mbps

[quaint helm]

Let u choose download for sub 60mins or download for more than 60mins rather choose the first one tbh

[rapid lake]

The ISP can limit speeds for certain things right?

Because downloading things from the web (in browser) or other places anywhere it's always <8 mega bits/s

like

this is peak (ironically)

[nova steppe]

My motherboard has a 2.5Gb port, so if I don't limit it, I use all of the bandwidth

[nova steppe]

That depends on the server you're downloading from

[thin turtle]

Isp can control everything

[quaint helm]

Obera geex

[thin turtle]

But they won't do such thing, bad business

[nova steppe]

e.g. my ~750MB downloads for Nvidia drivers will take over a minute, but that download should happen in seconds

[rapid lake]

it's the same for all of them

I mean

[nova steppe]

But yes, the ISP can also be a factor

[rapid lake]

any decent one will let you download over 1mb/s lmao

so the issue is definitsly on my end

[jovial tide]

VPN segway time

[stone apex]

how tho.

[wispy mesa]

They definitely can, generally not specific websites but web traffic yea they could

[thin turtle]

Afaik they can see through the VPN

If they wish

Oh nvm

[wispy mesa]

a true vpn, no

[thin turtle]

[fickle finch]

I want to install a NIC to my MSI B550 Bazooka motherboard what NIC would you guys recommend?

[wispy mesa]

any pcie x1 nic will work

[fickle finch]

any brand you would recommend?

[wispy mesa]

any from a trusted seller

i dont know what brands you have

[fickle finch]

i got 2 pcie x1 slots just below my gpu

so ill install it at the very bottom

[wispy mesa]

the top x1 slot would give to less latency

by like 10 nano seconds

[fickle finch]

oh

wont matter as much but

[wispy mesa]

you wouldnt be able to tell a difference lol

[fickle finch]

TP-Link Archer TX3000E

this is what's being recommended

[wispy mesa]

ah you want wifi

[fickle finch]

yep

[wispy mesa]

that adapter would be fine

[quaint helm]

TBE400E if u using win11 else TX3000E is enough

[fickle finch]

cant find tbe400e in amazon

[quaint helm]

what about TBE552E

[fickle finch]

same

[quaint helm]

dang

is there any microcenter around u or u not from US

[fickle finch]

not from us

none in any centres

[quaint helm]

ig AX3000 is good enough

[wispy mesa]

Probably best to check if the router can do wifi 7 before buying a wifi7 card

[fickle finch]

xiaomi router ax3200

wifi 6 is what it can do

[quaint helm]

all 3 doesnt exist in ur amazon?

[fickle finch]

yes

[rapid lake]

Ow does one bypass that

[wispy mesa]

if theyre slowing web traffic, a vpn could help

[rapid lake]

And how do I test if the VPN worked

Just try to download anything from the web?

[wispy mesa]

yep

[rapid lake]

I don't have to set up the vpn on my router right I can just use one on the pc

[wispy mesa]

yea thatd be fine

[rapid lake]

I actually got slightly slower speed with VPN

[lost fossil]

which makes sense

[rapid lake]

Not if the isp is throttling speeds for web traffic

which I am 100% sure they do

Ookla can magically do 40mbps down and up but when downloading anything useful it's capped to 8

Sometimes even watching a video in 1080p 60 doesn't work

[wispy mesa]

Downloading anything?

[rapid lake]

Yeah I tried downloading the mc launcher

900 kbytes/s on both roughly

[wispy mesa]

can you try https://speed.cloudflare.com

[rapid lake]

with vpn

[vagrant crown]

Are you near Holland? I thought it’s always better to try and use a location close by.

[rapid lake]

no

I'm using a VPN

Yes

[wispy mesa]

what vpn?

[rapid lake]

the VPN is in the netherlands

[vagrant crown]

Yeah I know that but have you tried a location closer to you

[rapid lake]

I don't think there exists one

[lost fossil]

try 🇷🇺 vpn

[rapid lake]

Besides I haven't subbed to it, just using the free one

[lost fossil]

try ☁️flare too

[rapid lake]

So only netherlands and US

[vagrant crown]

Ok that makes sense then

[rapid lake]

But ther are no close servers to me anyways

ME is a dead region

[wispy mesa]

Whats the VPN?

[rapid lake]

behold

proton vpn

[lost fossil]

ok but try cloudflare warp anyway just in case

[quaint helm]

this vid is sponsored by surfshark vpn 🏄‍♂️ 🦈

[wispy mesa]

udp or tcp mode?

[rapid lake]

Explain

[vagrant crown]

You can try my vpn if you like

It has UAE and stuff

[rapid lake]

I think tcp lemme try

[wispy mesa]

try udp

[rapid lake]

perhaps

[lost fossil]

what to explain

cf has their 1.1.1.1 app and you can use amneziawg to connect to their servers too

[rapid lake]

there don't seem to be an option to change it

[wispy mesa]

hmm yea try the cf warp https://1.1.1.1

[rapid lake]

it doesn't even say anywhere what it's using but I assume tcp

[vagrant crown]

Also are you using your ISP’s dns or have you switched to cloudflare/google?

[rapid lake]

cf is a vpn?

[rapid lake]

default dns

[wispy mesa]

vpn is an option they provide

[vagrant crown]

You probably wanna swap that regardless of vpn

[wispy mesa]

If DNS is causing you slow internet, youve got bigger fish to fry

[lost fossil]

they don't position it like one, in fact they deny that, but for all intents and purposes it's basically a vpn

well idk maybe p stands for public instead of private

[rapid lake]

behold

[rapid lake]

oh?

I used to do that but eh

google's is 8.8.8.1 or smth?

[wispy mesa]

8.8.8.8

make sure to enable this with warp

[rapid lake]

Where do I change it in W11

[wispy mesa]

its in the warp app

on the "hidden icons" button

[rapid lake]

Yeah but if I am not using the vbpn

I mean changing the dns

[wispy mesa]

ohh i saw the wrong reply

[wispy mesa]

yea ipv4 on

[rapid lake]

dns over https?

[wispy mesa]

https://dnsspeedtest.online/

use this to find the best near you (disable vpn)

[rapid lake]

this is with vpn off

[wispy mesa]

yea quad9 is good

does the windows options for dns over https have quad9?

[vagrant crown]

I’ve dm you the login for CyberGhost if you wanna try

[rapid lake]

thanks man

[wispy mesa]

I can already tell what the issue is

[rapid lake]

.

[wispy mesa]

on manual template

[rapid lake]

I probably need to manually put it in

[wispy mesa]

yea

https://dns.quad9.net/dns-query

[rapid lake]

it's 9.9.9.9?

[wispy mesa]

nope its that url i sent

[rapid lake]

waut

the vpn was on

proton

[wispy mesa]

ah redo the test

[rapid lake]

it's cf

cloudflare

[wispy mesa]

ah ok

[wispy mesa]

https://cloudflare-dns.com/dns-query

[rapid lake]

DoH Server URL: https://cloudflare-dns.com/dns-query
IP Addresses: 1.1.1.1, 1.0.0.1

[wispy mesa]

put that on your windows with manual dns over https

[rapid lake]

ah

kk

hmm

when I click save it just goes back to automatic dhcp

[wispy mesa]

that does make sense 1 second

https://dnsleaktest.com/

[rapid lake]

something to do with my router?

[wispy mesa]

do an extended test here

[rapid lake]

what does that mean

[wispy mesa]

when it finishes

[rapid lake]

it says test complete though

[wispy mesa]

whats below the 1's

[rapid lake]

my ip

[wispy mesa]

no thats the dns ip

[rapid lake]

it's my ip and isp name

[wispy mesa]

does the ISP say cloudflare?

[rapid lake]

no

[wispy mesa]

ah right so that config didnt work

[rapid lake]

it's my actual isp and actual ip

[wispy mesa]

and that ip is your ISP DNS server most likely

[rapid lake]

iff I put it to 8.8.8.8 it works

it stays on that

[wispy mesa]

hmm thats odd, what does dns over https auto do?

[rapid lake]

nothing

unlesss I put a dns ther in the manual bitg

then it shows the http for it

in this case google

[wispy mesa]

ah ok and doing dns over https with the cloudflare doenst work?

[rapid lake]

does cf not have a dns

a fixed one

[wispy mesa]

it does

yea 1.1.1.1

[patent marsh]

Uhhh

[wispy mesa]

but that isnt encrypted

[rapid lake]

there

[wispy mesa]

oh lol

[wispy mesa]

save that and show this again

does it say secure?

[rapid lake]

it does say

encrypted

retrying the test

[wispy mesa]

ok cool it used the secure one

[rapid lake]

test still shows my isp

and ip

(I am not using the vpn)

[wispy mesa]

close browser and try again

windows has a dns cache

[rapid lake]

same thi ng

[wispy mesa]

ok next try ipconfig /flushdns in a command prompt

[rapid lake]

done

[vagrant crown]

Might need a router reboot no?

[wispy mesa]

nope

we didnt change anything on the router

[rapid lake]

still using the same ip

[wispy mesa]

try a standard test

[rapid lake]

same

[wispy mesa]

i get tthis

i dont see why you shouldnt be getting the same

[rapid lake]

what is your current setup

in windows

[wispy mesa]

using 1.1.1.1 on windows 10

[rapid lake]

and are you using the vpn

[wispy mesa]

no vpn

nope

[vagrant crown]

So you’re only changing the dns within windows? Why would you do that?

[rapid lake]

alright

so you manually put in 1.1.1.1

[wispy mesa]

because the router cant do dns over https

[rapid lake]

and did manual http

[wispy mesa]

yep

[wispy mesa]

uh na i dont use dns over https because windows 10 doesnt have a gui to set it

[rapid lake]

hmm

well

[wispy mesa]

anyway this isnt why you get slow speed

[rapid lake]

what's the dns got to do with the IP

[wispy mesa]

if i give you an IP to try download from wanna test?

[rapid lake]

does this have anything to do with it

or is that like

the local ip

within my router

and devices

[wispy mesa]

that is your local IP between you and the router

it could be stopping the DNS, but i would think Windows knows better

[rapid lake]

Elaborate

[wispy mesa]

http://103.193.81.87:8000/random_1gb_file.bin

[rapid lake]

Hold on let's back up a bit - Why are we changing the dns

[wispy mesa]

is this just as slow?

[rapid lake]

sussy

[wispy mesa]

For security, someone suggested it. it wont affect speed, but yea

[fickle finch]

how does this work?

[wispy mesa]

you dont gotta finish the dl lol

[rapid lake]

ah then we can do this later

[rapid lake]

first lets

figure out the speed issue

[wispy mesa]

here is logs of me making a file with random data

[rapid lake]

same speed yeah

about 800kbytes

[wispy mesa]

really

wut the heck

[vagrant crown]

My understanding of dns was it helps resolve things quicker, that’s what I was taught anyway

[fickle finch]

how are you able to give an ip address if he isnt connected to your local network?

[wispy mesa]

thats a public ip of a vps i own

[rapid lake]

btw I am getting 50mbps on steam rn

if I try to run a download

[fickle finch]

we can setup and share public IP's?

what is VPS

[wispy mesa]

yes that is how the internet works

[rapid lake]

virtual private server

instead of buying a server

you pay for sub for using resources from one

[fickle finch]

you can host it virtually

what is the purpose of this VPS?

[rapid lake]

hosting things

probably

bots, websites etc

mc server

[wispy mesa]

this vps hosts a server for a game called Puck atm

has 9 people on it

[fickle finch]

I see

[rapid lake]

So what's the next step here

try using the vpn duck gave me?

[wispy mesa]

Yea try using cloudflare warp

downloading it with that slow internet isnt fun

[fickle finch]

I didnt know you could grab a public ip address and change your ip config to that IP address and use it to browse the net

[rapid lake]

I thin he gave a different one but since I downloaded cf so let's try that

[fickle finch]

Maybe im not getting how it works

wait

inside you got a private ip address but outside it changes to public

[wispy mesa]

you cant

[fickle finch]

so you're just changing the public ip address?

[wispy mesa]

no

i rented the VPS, the provider owns a subnet of IPs that are public

[fickle finch]

oh

[wispy mesa]

i am given 1 of the IPs in the subnet

[fickle finch]

how many IP's do they give you?

[rapid lake]

waiting

[wispy mesa]

i use that IP for the duration of the time i rent the VPS

[wispy mesa]

read up 1 from this message

[fickle finch]

a range i see

[wispy mesa]

is there an admin prompt? thats minimised

[rapid lake]

Yes

[jovial tide]

I remember using cloudflares "VPN" for gta, but I think that was about it lmao

[wispy mesa]

yea in that cog

[rapid lake]

not many options there

[wispy mesa]

enable the warp option

and then press the big button

[rapid lake]

Yeah it's toggled

[wispy mesa]

and this like this?

[rapid lake]

done

[wispy mesa]

try download something

[rapid lake]

like this

[wispy mesa]

yep

[rapid lake]

aight

gonna try your download again

[wispy mesa]

ah yea mines gateway because i use cf to access things i host securely

[rapid lake]

the download is not starting

lemme try again

infinitely loading the webpage

took too long to resond

is it an issue on your end?

[wispy mesa]

my end?

oh with it enabled

[rapid lake]

well yeah it's

your download

[wispy mesa]

ohh that right 1 sec lol

[rapid lake]

hosted on your vps I assume

[fickle finch]

have you used proxmox OS before @wispy mesa ?

[wispy mesa]

yes i run a dual cluster

[fickle finch]

what is clustering?

[wispy mesa]

try now

[wispy mesa]

just leaking internal ips lol

[fickle finch]

2 VMs if one fails there's a failover and it goes to the 2nd?

[fickle finch]

bro delete or change

or cover

[wispy mesa]

What do you mean 2 VMs?

[fickle finch]

so you have 1 physical device hosting 2 virtual machines inside

[wispy mesa]

no its 2 phyiscal machines networked together

each run VMs

[fickle finch]

2 physical machines connected to each other is dual clustering?

[wispy mesa]

in this case yes

[fickle finch]

what are you hosting in these machines?

[rapid lake]

same speed

[wispy mesa]

game servers for OCE, my websites, file sharing, DNS, linux iso gathering

[wispy mesa]

are you running any like firewall apps or antivirus apps on your machine

[rapid lake]

nah

just windows

[fickle finch]

I was told if you setup a file sharing server you can set it up in a way where you can connect to it at anytime

[wispy mesa]

that is very vague

[fickle finch]

I didnt get it either

[wispy mesa]

well

give me 5 minutes to think

[rapid lake]

out of ideas?

lmao

[fickle finch]

i think im making this process take a little longer ill come back later

😰

[rapid lake]

it's alright

[fickle finch]

what happened?

[rapid lake]

rai's cpu can handle

[wispy mesa]

sure can

[rapid lake]

two convos at once

[wispy mesa]

yea im out of ideas lmao

[rapid lake]

wait lemme try the dns test again with cf

the ip has changed still in the same countryu thhough

hmm

(that isn't my ip btw)

[wispy mesa]

yea thats dns ip

yea this is odd

what about on a mobile device

is it slow?

[rapid lake]

same speed pretty much yeah

when downloading from web

[wispy mesa]

what router do you have

[rapid lake]

and now my speed on ookla is also 8mbps

werid

[wispy mesa]

with the vpn?

[rapid lake]

with cf yeah

lemme try again

[vagrant crown]

Why is it showing you in France?