tech-coding-math

[civic cloud]

It's going to be awful

[thin turtle]

No chair is good unless you make it comfortable

[stone apex]

Gaming chairs are the biggest scam.

[civic cloud]

Yeah and the more you pay the more likely it is that you will reach a comfortable status

[stone apex]

I would rather get a normal for an office.

[thin turtle]

Cba

[stone apex]

I've bought a chair recently, but I'm too tall for it.

[civic cloud]

b r o

[stone apex]

So I need to find a better one.

[civic cloud]

Look, all you did so far was to be a little bitch. You haven't stated a budget or features that you want

[stone apex]

You didn't ask my budget.

Let's start with this.

And let's continue on that I need an ergonomic chair.

[tranquil sail]

Def not ikea

[civic cloud]

I'm not going to ask you about every detail, either say it or dont

[tranquil sail]

they're shit

[stone apex]

You didn't even ask me anything lmao.

[civic cloud]

You're the one asking for help, put some effort into it

[stone apex]

100-150euros.

[civic cloud]

wow great progress

With that budget your best bet is to get an actual office chair from Kleinanzeigen

Everything new will basically be trash at that price point

[stone apex]

I've got one from Otto for 113 euros, but again - It's too shot for me, and headrest pushes my shoulders because of how wide it is.

[civic cloud]

Please refer to this statement

[stone apex]

Why? What I've bought has a pretty good quality.

[civic cloud]

sure

[rapid lake]

My whole life I thought intel CPUs ending with f meant they had an iGPU…. I’ve been lied to

[civic cloud]

Isn't it the other way around

[cold elbow]

Yep

[nova steppe]

#tech-coding-math message

So real...

[lost fossil]

can y'all recommend a small beamer
318i?

[lost fossil]

it means they're fucked

why do u think the igpu is disabled

[late gorge]

E36 lol

[void turret]

Budget 300.. you might get a diecast model

[civic cloud]

Bro

[lost fossil]

brotherski?

[civic cloud]

I don't ski, sorry

[rapid lake]

Yes

If my GPU were to ever die, I have no iGPU

But I have a gt640

[civic cloud]

Good enough tbh

[cold elbow]

If your gpu dies you get another one

It's like when any other component dies

U get another one

[late gorge]

who is good at cooking web stuff guys

like centering a div and chit

[rapid lake]

Yes I can just summon a gpu with a snap of my fingers

Maybe I don’t have the money to buy one, or it’s just not a good time to buy a GPU

[cold elbow]

What if your cpu dies?

Or motherboard

[rapid lake]

Cpu is cheaper

And mobo

[cold elbow]

The point is

[rapid lake]

You’re comparing $60-70 parts to one that costs $200+

[cold elbow]

We shouldn't worry about having a backup for the gpu

Igpu is useless anyway

[rapid lake]

[cold elbow]

Yeah i guess but it also depends on the type of cpu you have

[rapid lake]

So according to oleg I have the i5 13400 (fucked)

[void turret]

i5 13400f(ucked) ?

[civic cloud]

at least it's not a i5 13400c

[quaint helm]

nah its fun ot overclock

[rapid lake]

Yess

[stone apex]

What a beauty.

[lost fossil]

pair it with the amd radeon hd 7770

[thin turtle]

Rip your pins

[lost fossil]

i wouldn't do that if i was him tbh

[thin turtle]

😞

[civic cloud]

Man I forgot that amd puts pins on the cpu these days

[lost fossil]

you say these days as if they don't make am4 cpus anymore

[late gorge]

what about a 7950x3d

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[stone apex]

🙄

[civic cloud]

Do they still make em? I feel like my system is outdated as hell with 5800X3D and 3080 (10G)

[quaint helm]

pin-less tho 🤔

[quaint helm]

'XT' series

[civic cloud]

Huh

[late gorge]

nah*, you're good

the next thing i would upgrade if I were you is the CPU, move to am5

and get ddr5 and new mobo

but 3080 is a strong gpu

[cold elbow]

They made a 5500x3d

[quaint helm]

i think the last am4 cpu that have been released = 5800 xt and 5900 xt which is like 1 year ago

[quaint helm]

same shit just more vcache

[cold elbow]

Nah

It's great for gaming

[late gorge]

nah man, just why 💀, now a 5600x3d would've been dope

[quaint helm]

5600x3d exist tho

[cold elbow]

Only limited amount

Only in microcenter

[late gorge]

yeah, just back when I bought my 5600x there wasnt

[cold elbow]

[quaint helm]

online

[cold elbow]

No online

[late gorge]

if they did it on release it would've been amazing

[cold elbow]

U had to be there in person to get it

[late gorge]

remember when 300$ for a 5600X was a STEAL

[cold elbow]

And the time you are there they're out of stock

AND in term of cost they weren't far from the 5700x3d

[quaint helm]

back then 3d vcache doesnt exist 💀

[late gorge]

i know man, that's what im saying 😭

[thin turtle]

Do you cad

[civic cloud]

No

[thin turtle]

Noob

[civic cloud]

Bro I work in project management

I don't do any engineering

[thin turtle]

[civic cloud]

what

[thin turtle]

You disappointed me

[civic cloud]

There's no money in engineering

Only in project management

[thin turtle]

[cold elbow]

U don't do anything actually

[thin turtle]

Changing majors as we speak

[civic cloud]

Working as we speak

Multitasking

[cold elbow]

Yeah right

[civic cloud]

I'm clocked in which means I'm working

I have to go through a contract appendix and the company fucked around with it

Bro put "data" into the Serial number field???

[cold elbow]

Blah blah blah

[civic cloud]

Don't be such a hater melon

[cold elbow]

Always

[civic cloud]

Nah

You're not made for it

You're too weak

I appreciate the support against this oppression @quaint helm

[quaint helm]

as you should

[civic cloud]

[fickle finch]

can type c cables send hdmi signals

want to connect my phone to a monitor using type c to hdmi converter

[thin turtle]

Ask chatgpt

[lost fossil]

it depends on the cable

[civic cloud]

Possible yes

[cold elbow]

U have to check if your phone supports display over type C

[fickle finch]

True

Hold on let me see

It doesn't 😢

[civic cloud]

:(

[fickle finch]

I don't like Xiaomi anymore too much ads in apps like music

Like I'm listening to music and then I get a Dr pepper sponsorship

[lost fossil]

dr pepper tho

[fickle finch]

lol

I'm afraid to try iPhone and I have tried samsung

[snow rover]

i have tried iphone

do not recommend

[lost fossil]

these cameras poke out further than, uh, another one of this phone

the fuck

speaking of this phone, and not just this phone, who came up with the idea of frosted glass on the back? i try to hold my phone without a case and it just slides out of the hand because my palm does not grip the rear panel

[snow rover]

segway to our sponsor dbrand

[civic cloud]

Is pepsi ok

[lost fossil]

[lost fossil]

what i hate more is that other color options of my phone have a transparent and glossy rear panel but then they're not actually white

[civic cloud]

Actual white would just look shit after a while

[lost fossil]

cherry coke was launched in 1985 whereas dr pepper was launched in 1885

[civic cloud]

Why do you know that

[lost fossil]

because i am sm0rt like that

[civic cloud]

[lost fossil]

[lost fossil]

not if it's glossy tho

[civic cloud]

Hmmmm

[lost fossil]

probably not even if it's frosted but frosted just has this need to slip out of hand

no, it's not because it wants to get away from me

[civic cloud]

😔

But it feels so good to have a phone without case in the hand

But yeah it's slippery as heck

[thin turtle]

Twitter phone

[lost fossil]

asplain

[steel sentinel]

Question for the earphone inclined
I'm looking for the TWE equivalent of the classic Sony MH750

• Dirt cheap
• Decent performance per buck, usable for anything - including particularly gaming, so low latency a must
• Semi-open or earplug style, no ANC
• No multipoint req since it'll be paired per PC
• Decent runtime, hassle-free battery case

I've just got way too used to wireless convenience on the Apple side and I'm now having to explore it for Windows
obvsly in the PC side things are a bit different as are the uses, so what I'm looking for would be more of the above

[void turret]

@ionic lodge ⤴️

[ionic lodge]

!ban @quaint iron Phishing

[craggy thicket]

Banned toxobite (Case #389956) (user notified with a direct message)

[ionic lodge]

ty

[void turret]

[quaint helm]

amd cooking with new x3d chip

[void turret]

What you can cook on it

[quaint helm]

idk 192mb L3 chip

[latent drum]

The more i read about camm2 i wonder why the fuck do we need this

[quaint helm]

speed

[latent drum]

Bruh thats it

[quaint helm]

ummm more space on ur board for WC ig

[latent drum]

Air cooling

[quaint helm]

then u can choose those big air cooler without worrying about ram height 🤣

[latent drum]

But low profile dimms are possible

[ocean thunder]

Trying to figure out modding Skyrim rn

[sterile cliff]

Theres no official guide to modding skyrim

You'll figure that shit out on your own

[ocean thunder]

There's unofficial

[stone apex]

Big and beatiful ngl.
2 more days and I can build it.

[lost fossil]

genshin

[nova steppe]

Genshit Midpact

[civic cloud]

GN tech channel

[jovial tide]

I’m tryna add social media icons to my website do I use FontAwesome or Cloudflare icons?

My link for FontAwesome isn’t working the icons aren’t showing

[rapid lake]

Pc offer

•CPU: i5 14600kf
•WATERCOOLER 3 fan
•M/B: b760 ddr5
•RAM: 2x16gb ddr5
•SSD: nvme 500gb
•GPU: RTX 3090 24gb with holder
•CASE: RGB with 5 magnetic fans
•PSU: 850w gold

850$ only

Based off of this, how much do you think the 3090 is

[snow rover]

wtf that's actually a pretty good deal

3090 still desirable for 3d modeling stuff because of the vram

[rapid lake]

Yeah 3090 is $500 here second hand as far as I can see

So idk I’m thinking of trading in my 3060 just for the gpu if it’s cheaper

[steel sentinel]

for higher-end systems that would otherwise have soldered-on ram ofc

[jovial tide]

I want to build a Rockstar dev pc would be hella cool

Rockstar devs have beast pcs

[rapid lake]

I know the description of the parts is really vague but roughly how much does everything aside from the gpu cost

Granted the nvme is a kingston

All parts new btw aside from the gpu

They probably used the cheapest mobo ever too

[snow rover]

guessing it's all cheapo parts

[thin turtle]

Steal

[rapid lake]

I think:
Cpu $200
Mobo $80
Ssd $35
Case and fans $100
AIO $70
RAM $80
PSU $70
Which in total is $630

But there ain’t no way the 3090 is $220

When I went to get my PC they showed me they get CPUs in bulk without coolers so it’s maybe than that

I don’t think there are many AIOs under $70, and maybe the RAM is like $60-70

[snow rover]

i mean at 850 that's being sold at a loss

has to be

[rapid lake]

Gold PSU for $70 even is like

[snow rover]

unless it's a store getting big discounts on random parts in bulk

[rapid lake]

Impossible

[snow rover]

is it sold by a store or just by some guy

[rapid lake]

Idk what they’re doing tbh

[rapid lake]

A store yeah

[snow rover]

interesting

[rapid lake]

Lemme show some other builds they done

Pc offer

•CPU: i5 9600k
•M/B: z390
•RAM: 32gb
•SSD: 250gb
•GPU: GTX 1070ti 8gb
•CASE: rgb

320$

Pc offer

•CPU: i7 9700
•M/B: z390
•RAM: 2x8gb
•SSD: nvme 250gb
•GPU: RTX 2070 super msi gaming trio
•CASE: rgb

500$

[snow rover]

neither of those are particularly good deals though

[rapid lake]

Pc offer

•CPU: i5 13400f
•M/B: b760 msi ddr5
•RAM: 32gb 2x16 ddr5 5600mhz rgb
•SSD: 1tb nvme
•GPU: rtx 5060ti 8gb
•CASE: rgb

•FREE KEYBOARD AND MOUSE

900$ only

[snow rover]

wow free keyboard and mouse

totally not ewaste

[rapid lake]

LOL ikr

[rapid lake]

They’re fairly priced yeah but not deals

Especially the older one having no upgradability

I asked how much the 3090 would be alone is they still have some left

Although

Ain’t the 5070 better

In terms of gaming performance, and also cheaper I think

[snow rover]

in terms of rasterization there's probably no difference

5070 is way more power efficient and has newer tech but half the vram

probably doesn't matter for gaming but for workstation use i'd take the 3090

[latent drum]

I love how high end system will cut on sodimms to install something more expensive

Also like that LPCAMM2

[pearl notch]

Everytime I look in the channel I realize how fucking stupid I am

[quaint helm]

rgb psu

[proper sundial]

Try learning you might evolve into human

[steel sentinel]

they're more expensive now because the ram is hgher performance, the market is (much) smaller
are you one of those ppl who can only see in terms of storage capacity
lpcamm2 has double the potential throughput of sodimm for a given memory speed, as well as a speed boost n itself in terms of how the ram works

ii want camm to take off because i don't want a world of mac-like small form factor hardware

[quaint helm]

i believe those aib wont put rgb on camm2 tbh just pure performance rip z royale

[steel sentinel]

i turn all my clown lights off except for the keeb so yeah idc

[snow rover]

ion have rgb

well the gpu has rgb on the logo

[steel sentinel]

besides if clown lights even on your ram are your thing then traditonal DIMMs will contnue to exist

[snow rover]

but that's enough rgb for me

[steel sentinel]

it's ridiiculous
lke one of my 14-core 10g M4 Pro Mac Minis with the default 24/512 storage was $1700
but another cto i did when i put 64gb and 2tb of storage in it was $2900

camm in something similar that benefits from more directly cpu attached memory would give me much more flexibility

[quaint helm]

classic apple move

[steel sentinel]

the problem is that i think they've already conditioned normies into this kind of overcharge behaviour
PC laptop makers followed apple are also like why do we have to change, this just sells more hardware faster
Which is why you currentl;y only get camms in high-end pro hardware

and even then it's super limited to a couple of makers

[muted mantle]

aio is the intended cooling method, but cpu cooler and noctua fans would be way cheaper but more tricky to build around

https://hyte.com/store/revolt-3/cs-hyte-revolt3-w

how would you people cool the pc

[lost fossil]

i thought it was an nzxt h1 when u first posted it...

[muted mantle]

i could fit 2x120mm fans on the side

[muted mantle]

oh yeah its not that

[snow rover]

hmm yes more expensive pc that performs worse only so that it can be smaller

ion get it

atx any day of the week

[muted mantle]

oh come the fuck on im not buying an atx pc

this pc moves around the country over a thousand kilometers a year

[snow rover]

why

[muted mantle]

because i move around with the pc a lot

[lost fossil]

looks like it could potentially fit a 240 aio with some shenanigans

[muted mantle]

i go to two major tech events every year and even more smaller ones

240 is officially supported

well i mean

yeah

[snow rover]

you still have to lug a monitor around which is far more of a pain in the ass than a pc so ion get it

[muted mantle]

the pc is the pain in the ass

[lost fossil]

then it's a no brainer... but if you need aircooling then alpenfohn black ridge or noctua nh-l12

[muted mantle]

i pack my monitor in the original cardboard box

[muted mantle]

yeah i was just thinking about which is better

[snow rover]

which is like twice the size of an atx pc and about the same weight

[snow rover]

that's a stupid case though

[muted mantle]

this is my pc, hell no im putting this in the back of a car

[muted mantle]

I FUCKING KNOW IVE SAID IT MANY TIMES

[lost fossil]

i don't get the point of those xl cases where there's nothing to put there

[muted mantle]

hot wheels:

[lost fossil]

can't even put 2x120 at the rear

[snow rover]

atx =/= has to be stupid

[muted mantle]

3x120 on the top and bottom though

[lost fossil]

yeah but it's a waste of space though

[muted mantle]

but the exhaust fan has to be changed to a noctua one i think

the case is the main reason im getting a new pc

#community message here are the other reasons

[quaint helm]

of course thermalright's royale pretor

[quaint helm]

what case is this

[lost fossil]

height re-volt 3

[stone apex]

Does it count as a damaged part?

[lost fossil]

i would look for other issues before returning because of this
well, not look, but i would not consider the case damaged unless there are other issues

if anything, it grips the device better when it's bent in like that, which is good in my opinion

[quaint helm]

if that usb port able to read stuff then ill say its not really 'damaged'

[civic cloud]

Tight grip for extra intense information transfer

[lost fossil]

hell yeah

[muted mantle]

It's large

[quaint helm]

o wait nvm its taller than recommended space by 18mm

DIY and cut it

[muted mantle]

Thermalright has other cpu coolers that are smaller, for example Thermalright AXP90-X53

[snow rover]

oranj

[muted mantle]

Btw when i was thinking about cramming a PC into a sandwich casr the cpu cooler choice would've been this

[thin turtle]

Look like nuctua

Noctua

[quaint helm]

temu nuktua

[muted mantle]

Close enough I guess

Oh and alsi

[thin turtle]

Nochua

[muted mantle]

Im pretty sure the fan is hotswappable

Might be wrong though

[quaint helm]

140mm max height fan only SFF fan available i think

[stone apex]

I think I can try fixing it myself...

[muted mantle]

Yeah there are specifically coolers for sff cases but I think a flat one is better, it's only 50€ while a tower would be a bit more expensive I think

[quaint helm]

https://noctua.at/en/nh-u9s

[wispy mesa]

just plug a usb into it for like a week

[snow rover]

who even uses front panel usb

having cables running from there is so ugly

[quaint helm]

o wait that case have 2 bottom/top fan right? ig a flat cpu fan + 2 high flow case fan

[muted mantle]

I mean if you have a mouse or a headset with a dongle, the front IO is a more convenient place

[muted mantle]

Uuh ill check

[snow rover]

i have a powered usb hub on my desk with all of my mouse dongles

[muted mantle]

I don't have one so I use the front IO

[muted mantle]

Uuh one on top and 2 on side I think

Wait no you can fit it 2 more on the side too

Nvm there isn't space on the top

[quaint helm]

imo it can fit a royale pretor tbh just remove the bottom fan of side panel

[muted mantle]

alr

so 3 noctua(?) fans and one royale pretor

no aio

rgb lights while im at it?

[quaint helm]

if u want rgb u cant choose noctua

the airflow gonna be so fked up tbh......

[thin turtle]

Gimme this

[muted mantle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/sffpc/comments/t2edui/hyte_revolt_3_12900k_3080_ti/

[muted mantle]

yeah yeah i meant like

nvm

[lost fossil]

non-volatile memory?

[thin turtle]

Amazing

[muted mantle]

everything is volatile under specific conditions

[lost fossil]

got that "not using enough violence" energy

[quaint helm]

tbh theres 2 option a flat cpu fan with 2 high flow case fan or AIO

[muted mantle]

you can place fans on the front side too

[muted mantle]

that means 4 on the side, 2 for exhaust 2 for intake, and one cpu fan

[muted mantle]

[lost fossil]

[quaint helm]

but since u gonna move around a lot imo stick to air coolers better

[muted mantle]

yeah thats kinda the plan

[lost fossil]

but at the same time tho
liquid cooler will have a rad that is firmly attached to the case
air cooler will only be attached to the motherboard

[quaint helm]

any flat cpu fan with 2 p14 max

[muted mantle]

isnt this just swapping the fan on a cpu cooler

[quaint helm]

not like u going to shake the case with force while moving anyways

[muted mantle]

true, the pc would probably be in a bag at that size though

a bonus with this pc is that its big enough to not move that much around

[lost fossil]

yeah just lean towards your car's parking sensor and gently whisper, asking it to soften the suspension so that your ride is not too bumpy

[muted mantle]

cpu fan and the fans to the side that faces the motherboard?

again, you can mount 2 more on the case

[quaint helm]

yeh case fan on exhaust , i believe flat cpu fan most of the time = exhaust

[muted mantle]

wait ill do something in paint

kinda like this?

[muted mantle]

but shouldnt the air flow into the cpu?

oh wait no it flows to the heatsink

mb

yeah its exhaust

[quaint helm]

if intake = ur case gonna have negative flow which is bad and hot case

[muted mantle]

yeah i forgor how cpu coolers work for a second

[lost fossil]

if u got a low profile cooler with the fan underneath, it needs to be placed to pull air away from the mobo, because otherwise there will be a lot of turbulence noise

[muted mantle]

it doesnt blow into the cpu, it blows air through a heatsink that is directly in contact to the cpu

[muted mantle]

like the nh-c14s?

[lost fossil]

yes

[muted mantle]

what about ones with the fan on top, should i flip the fan so it acts as illustrated above?

[quaint helm]

it looks like intake config tbh

[quaint helm]

yeah

[muted mantle]

so either way im going to flip the fan to face the cpu (as in blowing away), got it

[muted mantle]

this with two fans?

[muted mantle]

this reads like they sandwiched the heatsink between two fans, did i understand it correctly?

alr

so two fans for intake, two (+1) fans for exhaust and a cpu cooler with the fan on the bottom, got it

lets see paul allens card the price of the pc

shouldnt there be more intake fans than exhaust fans?

[lost fossil]

ngl i ain't read allat 🤣 📜 🤦‍♂️

[young garden]

br thk hs shkspr 🥀

[quaint helm]

equal is better

[muted mantle]

incomprehensible, have a wonderful day

thats 2 intake and 3 exhaust

[lost fossil]

he misunderstood how ts works

[muted mantle]

who

[lost fossil]

he

[muted mantle]

he?

[lost fossil]

sora

[muted mantle]

oh alr

[muted mantle]

me opening soras profile

[young garden]

you know it

[muted mantle]

im pretty sure the top fan on the noctua cooler mentioned earlier wouldnt do anything except move the air to the main exhaust fans

one fan could do on its own

as the air is already routed to the heatsink by the bottom one

that makes 2 intake and 2 exhaust

wait

does the cpu fan actually act as an exhaust fan or is it just a fan that moves air inside the case?

[muted mantle]

oh ty

didnt know this was a thing

[quaint helm]

it pulls the air and 2 of ur case fan push the hot air away

[void turret]

ty

[muted mantle]

so the fan just moves air around, yes?

but you know what

fuck it, we ball

its not gonna matter that much

2 intake and 2 exhaust, cpu cooler just moves the air 90 degrees through the heatsink

[quaint helm]

as long as ur cpu is cool we ball

[muted mantle]

actually ive yet to check the temps on the planned system

[young garden]

NOO DOES IT RUIN MY EFFORTS TO HAVE A SOLID COLOR PROFILE

[muted mantle]

the case is going to be different but i hope it gives some guidelines

[toxic sentinel]

I just ordered new RAM for my PC as I used to run RAM which wasn't compatible with my motherboard

[muted mantle]

yes 😔

[muted mantle]

ddr4 on [sic] ddr5 mb?

[young garden]

it's not SO bad atleast

[toxic sentinel]

On Ryzen systems RAM seems to make a big difference

[young garden]

the border matches still

[toxic sentinel]

DDR4

[muted mantle]

yeah the pfp matches with the rest of the profile

it still works

[muted mantle]

ddr4 ram?

[toxic sentinel]

Yeah and DDR4 mobo

[muted mantle]

then whats the problem?

[lost fossil]

[toxic sentinel]

RAM couldn't run XMP profiles as it wasn't supported from my motherboard

[muted mantle]

ooh ok

[lost fossil]

if it worked then it was compatible

[muted mantle]

fair enough

[toxic sentinel]

As I took it from my older system which broke

[toxic sentinel]

Well I couldn't run it past 2800mhz

Ordered 3600mhz kit for 50€

[muted mantle]

interesting, the case has the io on the bottom

[lost fossil]

it was probably default 2133 ram

[muted mantle]

ill have to get 90 degree dp cables

[toxic sentinel]

It was 3200mhz RAM

[lost fossil]

[muted mantle]

what the hell is this supposed to mean

[snow rover]

separated airflow channels for cpu and gpu cooling

[muted mantle]

ok smartass

[snow rover]

i think it's kinda self explanatory no

[muted mantle]

i dont understand what it means, but i can guess

the right fans are facing the gpu, so they cool the gpu

[junior flax]

The gpu has its own airflow

same w the cpu

[muted mantle]

yeah its kinda forced by how the mb is mounted

wouldnt be the case if there were fans on the bottom or the top

what even is the advantage of having separate airflows for the two? more powerful fans for the other or something?

[junior flax]

Maybe one doesn’t heat up the other?

[muted mantle]

true

shame that the case and psu combo is sold out everywhere

would save me 75 bucks

there is space for one (1) 80mm fan on the top

but ehhhh i dont need one

and one on the bottom if i am not mistaken

nope a fan on the bottom would need tinkering around

[thin turtle]

@muted mantle

[muted mantle]

yea

[thin turtle]

I have read the txt file

Will reply soon ™

[pearl notch]

no

[muted mantle]

Valve Gambit: Count to 3 Variation

[quaint helm]

123

[muted mantle]

CPU 399, GPU 400, RAM 135, MB 169, 2tb storage 150, case ~112, CPU cooler 92, PSU 209, 4x fans 4x35=140

In total 1806

thats a bit much

if the case+cpu case was in stock, i would save like 100 bucks

[lost fossil]

92 for a cpu kuhler?

35 per fan?

[lost fossil]

wtf

[lost fossil]

ah, nawktuah

[thin turtle]

Please don't buy $400 CPU

Especially for gaming

You literally don't need it

[muted mantle]

only place i can find on sale

[muted mantle]

i mean true but what cpu then?

[thin turtle]

Look

[quaint helm]

tawknuah

[thin turtle]

Anything performes like the 14600k is enough. And price tag no more than 250 I'd say

Thought I can find 14600k for like 170

But I'm giving you the am5 tax

[muted mantle]

hows intel?

[thin turtle]

Don't buy intel for new builds

Unless cheaper

[muted mantle]

no im just asking

[thin turtle]

Way cheaper

[quaint helm]

forget about ultra lineup

[thin turtle]

Very good buy kinda getting old and hot

[muted mantle]

yeah ive heard that (at the time) the new-gen cpus were killing themselves

[thin turtle]

Resolved

[muted mantle]

might have been fixed though

guessed so

[thin turtle]

I still have a intel board

I will buy me a 14600k once it makes sense financially

[muted mantle]

i think i could ask the seller if they can sell only the chip, if not, then ill try to get the price down

[thin turtle]

But now it's all falling on my head

[muted mantle]

but again, what cpu then?

[thin turtle]

Car being a little junk

[thin turtle]

I'm not that educated about specific models of amd tbh

[muted mantle]

alr

[thin turtle]

But generally this is your reference

[muted mantle]

the am5 equivalent to the 5800x3d is the 7700x which i have in my machine right now, i suppose it isnt overkill

[thin turtle]

I'd say something like 10% less than 7800 x3D

[muted mantle]

350?

wait no

uuh

[thin turtle]

Not price

[muted mantle]

ooh alr

[thin turtle]

Performance

14600k is there when it comes to games that don't benefit from L3 cache

[muted mantle]

230 for 14600k, 231 for 14600kf

[thin turtle]

Scam

14600kf should be less

[muted mantle]

alr

[thin turtle]

Can you find "tray"

[muted mantle]

i could check if there are ones available second hand

[muted mantle]

"tray"?

[thin turtle]

Yeah like the cpu without the cosmetics

Box, fan wtvr

Way cheaper

[muted mantle]

where would they be sold?

[thin turtle]

Not sure tbh

Could be found in online stores though

Or if you know a local dealer

They are called tray because they come in bulk in a tray

[muted mantle]

the only major pc component retailer here is Jimm's and they only have the box version

[thin turtle]

[muted mantle]

but i could look at individual smaller sellers

[thin turtle]

Your 7700x might be the perfect cpu tbh

[thin turtle]

Or find 9600x3d if it exists

[thin turtle]

Whoa

[quaint helm]

exist but too new

[thin turtle]

Expensive

[muted mantle]

yeah

[thin turtle]

Look @muted mantle
If you really don't mind getting stuck buy intel 14th gen

[muted mantle]

i could try buying the 5800x3d alone, that could get the price down as the post has ram and mb with it

[thin turtle]

Even a 14700k will be relatively cheaper

[muted mantle]

alr

[muted mantle]

yep the components here are expensive as hell

[lost fossil]

i thought tray cpus only existed in russia

u know, gray import and all

[thin turtle]

We have that weakness

But not due to sanctions

Pure skill issue

[muted mantle]

ill just ask the seller how much the cpu would cost alone if its available at all

[lost fossil]

it's also called oem officially

box vs oem

i think

[thin turtle]

[muted mantle]

if not, then ill try to get the price down

[void turret]

Check datatronic.fi

[snow rover]

buy from germany

[muted mantle]

didnt check there

[thin turtle]

Lovely

[muted mantle]

way cheaper

but shipping tho

[void turret]

Jimms got shit on their neck after selling drones for russians or smth like that

[snow rover]

mailboxde is under 20 bucks for small packages

it's very reasonable

and mindfactory shipping is free inside germany at night

so in total the shipping is really not bad

[quaint helm]

uber the one that fetch and send people right

[muted mantle]

yeah thats ass because Jimm's is the only major component retailer here, other places like datatronic, multitronic, etc. are more focused on house appliances

the prices here are insane, wonder why

[void turret]

VAT 25,5%

[muted mantle]

no voi vittu saatana

i cant

[void turret]

😂😂😂

[muted mantle]

[snow rover]

actuallyu

just buy that

get the mobo and ram and whatever at the same time

[muted mantle]

yeah box has a cpu fan which im already buying

[muted mantle]

yeah, lets see if they sell mini itx mobo bundles

[snow rover]

didn't realize mindfactory had tray cpus too

[muted mantle]

oh thank you

pretty sure i have to use the firefox translator

goddamn

thats attractive

thats really nice

wait thats the non 3d one

fuck

the 7700x tray is 270 compared to the non x one being 199

you know what, might as well just buy the entire pc from other eu countries and ship it to Finland

customs does cost a bit iirc

[muted mantle]

wait nvm customs dont cost if you buy inside EU

[snow rover]

mindfactory doesn't even charge your vat

you just pay 19% and that's it

[civic cloud]

I thought Mindfactory went bankrupt a while ago

[muted mantle]

thats nice

[civic cloud]

Nice to see that they are still around

[muted mantle]

@void turret

Please note that if you order goods from outside the EU, the goods may not be safe. Read more about the safety of goods.

[snow rover]

the goods become safe when the european importer imports them instead of you

[muted mantle]

kinda like test tasters in the medieval times

[toxic sentinel]

Well there was this case while ago in Finland that a guy bought some electronics from China and it burned his apartment down. He didn't have insurance either

[muted mantle]

yeah its a good thing to remind about

270 for a cpu, lets see what the gpu costs

[toxic sentinel]

I have bought some stuff from China, but I wouldn't probably buy chargers

[rapid lake]

Tray cpus?

[muted mantle]

chips without fans shipped with them

[rapid lake]

Oh

Stock coolers are garbage anyways

[muted mantle]

i was thinking about buying some electric components from aliexpress because a board that costs 2 euro in China costs 20 euro in Finland

[quaint helm]

ugreen is good tho

[nova steppe]

Well, the old Intel ones were. The AMD ones were okay™️ from my memory, but I also have a shit memory

[muted mantle]

fucking cant, @snow rover which one of these is the gpu section 😭

[lost fossil]

i bought a pair of chargers for dirt cheap from AliExpress, when they arrived and i felt how light they were, i didn't risk plugging anything into them

[toxic sentinel]

Yeah that's kinda good deal

[lost fossil]

vga

[rapid lake]

They’re enough to keep your cpu from setting itself on fire probably

[muted mantle]

oh yeah its vga mb

[rapid lake]

But cpu coolers are hella cheap

[quaint helm]

'grafikkarten' dam it sounds cool

[lost fossil]

about the same as graphic cart

[muted mantle]

wonder what that is, a new volkswagen model?

[quaint helm]

ig

[sharp coyote]

The chargers are fake anyway especially 120w ones

[muted mantle]

i know some german but i dont think i can use it in this case qwq

[quaint helm]

3090 hdmi cable

[toxic sentinel]

Actually I think I bought one for my old laptop

[muted mantle]

they dont sell 6800xt's

[lost fossil]

there are couple legit brands tho

[muted mantle]

400€ used in Finland though

[toxic sentinel]

I think it was legit as I was able to game with that

[sharp coyote]

Dosent verkkokaupa do big sales anymore? I did get my x570 gaming plus for 120€ back in 2021 at sale

[sharp coyote]

Indeed 🙂

[muted mantle]

Verkkokauppa does put out sales but i dont know about individual components

wait no they sell components

i was at Assembly last weekend and they sold 4090's in their store

[sharp coyote]

Yes

They do

[muted mantle]

pretty sure they dont sell lastgen components though

[sharp coyote]

7600 is 199€ bruh

[muted mantle]

those are ones to buy second hand

[sharp coyote]

Well

[muted mantle]

7600x is 209

[sharp coyote]

Its better than in estonia

[muted mantle]

its worse there??

[sharp coyote]

for some components yes

7500f is 140€ for us

[muted mantle]

oh wait these are sold here too

[sharp coyote]

7600 is 160€

[muted mantle]

5800x3d isnt on sale but 5700x3d is with a price tag of 280

[thin turtle]

[muted mantle]

but at these prices ill just buy am5 chips

7700x?

[lost fossil]

that's a lot

[muted mantle]

or do i upgrade the chip too

[muted mantle]

well they do have 96 FUCKING CORES

192 THREADS

[thin turtle]

You might be able to sell your pc to a shop without the cpu + mobo

[muted mantle]

that is like, what, 12 time more than mine

[thin turtle]

They can figure that out

[muted mantle]

if there are physical Jimm's stores relatively nearby i think i could try it

[muted mantle]

oh and also, remember, the mobo is a part of the problem

[thin turtle]

You don't have these Instagram stores?

[muted mantle]

Instagram stores??

[thin turtle]

They pop up a lot to me and most of them have an actual shop

[sharp coyote]

Tiktok stores

[thin turtle]

Like, people who use Instagram to market their products

[muted mantle]

i have yet to start using IG or TikTok

[thin turtle]

What is the problem

[muted mantle]

did you already forget the .txt

the case is too big: i buy a smaller one, the mb is too big

[thin turtle]

I have skill issue sorry 😞

[thin turtle]

But don't mid tower cases support all mobo sizes

[muted mantle]

[muted mantle]

the case im looking at mounts the motherboard a way that the io is sticking out of the bottom

[thin turtle]

[muted mantle]

only way to mount a gpu vertically without a riser

[thin turtle]

Ok then sell the whole thing without the cpu

[muted mantle]

....

[thin turtle]

[muted mantle]

thats like taking the crankshaft out of a car and selling it

[thin turtle]

You underestimate stores

The will buy anything that they can sell

[lost fossil]

which is okay

[thin turtle]

A 3060ti build is very marketable

[lost fossil]

keep it that way 👑

[muted mantle]

true, they are powerful

[muted mantle]

i see no reason not to

[lost fossil]

[thin turtle]

You can like buy a 7600 and sell it rn

[muted mantle]

ill check if there are stores

[thin turtle]

Wait

Why don't you downgrade the cpu and sell

[muted mantle]

there was one in Helsinki when i was there for the weekend 😫

[muted mantle]

true,

ill chech how much a cpu costs on verkkokauppa

7600x is 209

[thin turtle]

I advise you to find it from somewhere you can get on the same day

We might need to have the customer pay first

To fund the operation

[muted mantle]

yeah

im checking locations atm

for both stores

[thin turtle]

ChatGPT would say " you are already ahead of the curve!"

[muted mantle]

There is only one Jimm's location and it's in Turku
Verkkokauppa has 4 around Finland, with 2 of them being in the capital area, one of them being in Tampere and the last one in Turku

so yeah, if i go to Turku, I could downgrade and try to sell the pc on the same day

ill have to check if the Jimm's store is like a Microcenter or something

all of the reviews talk about the webstore and not the physical store

nvm the Jimm's location is a pick-up store

from the Verkkokauppa customer support page

By selling your old device to Verkkokauppa.com, you can get rid of it easily and safely and get access to the value of the device immediately to your Account. Your old device will have a new life.

but its only for devices with serial numbers

fuck

[void turret]

Damn

[muted mantle]

there is a Gigantti trade-in

and its also only for prebuilt devices

[thin turtle]

how much they willin

[muted mantle]

Gigantti gives 150€ max, Verkkokauppa can go beyond

[thin turtle]

150?

[muted mantle]

yeah its a steal

[thin turtle]

what's this a microwave

[muted mantle]

pretty sure the only way to sell a built pc is to sell it second-hand

[snow rover]

you would never trade in anything worthwhile

[muted mantle]

buy a cheap processor that works well with the 3060ti and sell it for 1k i guess

thats one component i dont have to buy new

ill buy the 7600

only 200

its 180 in germany so i guess its not that big of a price increase

embed failure 🪟

[void turret]

Suz or tryka

[muted mantle]

why did discord think i wanted a window emoji when typing :peni (i misclicked and pressed the i key instead of the s key (yes i know they are on the other sides of the keyboard, they are back to back))

[thin turtle]

common w

[snow rover]

point and laugh

[void turret]

Wtf, is this on pc

[snow rover]

yes

[void turret]

We need that on mobile too

[snow rover]

stop using discord on mobile

[void turret]

_ _

[civic cloud]

No

[snow rover]

yes

[thin turtle]

Guys help

[muted mantle]

yea

[thin turtle]

The controller won't drift

I want to afk

[muted mantle]

use an ahk

[thin turtle]

[thin turtle]

Detectable

[muted mantle]

who cares though

not r*

wait

what are we talking about?

[thin turtle]

Gta

[muted mantle]

oh yeah

rockstar doesnt care

[thin turtle]

I want to afk in gta

It is detectable according to Internet people

[void turret]

Ahk v1.1 and I can send you 2 scripts. 1 to afk outside of lscm and 2 to afk in lscm

[muted mantle]

isnt it v1.2?

[void turret]

Iirc 1.1

[muted mantle]

oh damn

mind sharing? :3

[void turret]

Scripts?

[snow rover]

why are we not using ahk v2

[muted mantle]

most of the scripts are made for v1

[muted mantle]

yea

[void turret]

Sure, in a min. Turning on pc

[muted mantle]

oh and also

i stumbled upon this, is the 9000 series any good?

[thin turtle]

This one seems expensive

[muted mantle]

i mean its way less powerful than 6800xt but its newer

[thin turtle]

Don't think like that

[muted mantle]

yeah i know 8gb is ass

the 6800xt is 50€ more expensive so thats a no brainer

[thin turtle]

Yeah and also you want to play in 1440p

[muted mantle]

with what monitor?

[thin turtle]

Idk you tell me

[toxic sentinel]

I did pay 260€ for my Arc B580 12GB and I'm completely satisfied

AMD messed up their game with that 8GB decision

[muted mantle]

yeah the b580 is really good

but 400 for a 6800xt is nice

[quaint helm]

3080 :

[muted mantle]

6800xt has nearly twice as much vram for the same price

[civic cloud]

What do you need help with :)

[civic cloud]

We are suffering together ❤️

[thin turtle]

I'm trying to break the controller legally

[muted mantle]

just use an ahk

r* doesnt ban players from using an autohotkey script

[thin turtle]

Too much work

[muted mantle]

just download ahk v1 and run the script, that easy

[thin turtle]

Anything more than 2 steps is not worth the trouble

[thin turtle]

That's 2 steps

Ok ok might try some time

[muted mantle]

heatsinkless ram is 100 bucks for 32 gigs

[quaint helm]

why so lazy

[muted mantle]

5600mhz too

[snow rover]

that's not a deal

[muted mantle]

ik im just stating that the more barebones this thing is, the cheaper it is

[snow rover]

well that's more than i paid for heatsinkful 6000mhz ram 2 years ago

[muted mantle]

well i am shopping at Jimm's which has higher prices

the ddr4 ram which i was looking at cost 135, so thats an upgrade

[civic cloud]

@thin turtle do you fuck with Lagrange

[quaint helm]

lag-range

[civic cloud]

No the guy Lagrange

[thin turtle]

I dunno who that is

[civic cloud]

i thought you wanted to help me study for my next exam 😩

[thin turtle]

Just watch some Indian guy

Didn't study this I'm so sorry

[civic cloud]

you really think ill understand this topic more by switching languages?

[quaint helm]

they do speak english tho unless u want a english translator translating english

[muted mantle]

reduced the price from 1806 to 1578, progress?

[civic cloud]

english isnt my native language

[quaint helm]

same

[muted mantle]

so isnt mine but ive been learing the language for nearly a decade now

wait no

more like 7 years

[muted mantle]

sell pc for 1k, someone offers like 900, i still need to pull 700 out of my ass

[civic cloud]

thats cool but knowing day to day english is much easier than learning technical terms, and its not feasible to switch languages when all your courses have been in a different language so far

[quaint helm]

ive been learning it since i born lol (bcus of school........)

[thin turtle]

Didn't you say you had 500 on hand

[civic cloud]

you went to school since day one?

[muted mantle]

no i meant
im getting 500 in a bit

[quaint helm]

um sorry since 4yr old ahahah

[muted mantle]

so yeah, still 200 from somewhere

im gonna have to find a j*b 😔🥀💔

[thin turtle]

I solved the drift

It drifts now

[quaint helm]

🗾 🏎️

[muted mantle]

hard ass gif

[thin turtle]

I just decreased the dead zone

Now it just needs an excuse to drift all over the place

[muted mantle]

go to lsia

[thin turtle]

I'm just here in the desert

[quaint helm]

[muted mantle]

The basic salary payable for the position is according to MaRaVa’s collective agreement, which is 8,11 €/h – 12,88 €/h depending on your previous experience, and we also pay additionals according to the actual hours of work in accordance with TES.

thats a wage of 1.2k

[civic cloud]

Where's that? Seems pretty low

[muted mantle]

hamburger chain 😔 and the 1.2k is really optimistic as im still an undergrad, at best i could do like 5-6 hours a day

so yeah. maybe not something with a wage

[twin badger]

Crappy value

[muted mantle]

Yeah it's weaker than my current one I think

[civic cloud]

I hit shift while clicking on restart to get into the bios and now it's stuck on a black screen 💀

[rapid lake]

@civic cloud irrelevant but you do have a custom water loop in your pc right

[civic cloud]

Yes

[rapid lake]

And you keep your pc hidden under your desk?

[civic cloud]

Yes

[rapid lake]

Bruh

[civic cloud]

Look, I had it in the prime spot on my right for like 3 years

But my flat is small and this makes the setup look less like I'm 16

[rapid lake]

That’s fair

But would’ve been wild if you went through all that effort just for no one to see it

[civic cloud]

Nah I looked at it lots of times

It's very pretty

[rapid lake]

Show

[civic cloud]

It's more orange than this but my phone camera is struggling

Yes I know there's a green LED on the RAM

[quaint helm]

this actualy looks cool........

[civic cloud]

It used to be worse but I redid the tubing at some point

[quaint helm]

is that normal water or some coolant

[civic cloud]

premade coolant from EK

I should really clean the water blocks

It's been years

[rapid lake]

Smol loop

[civic cloud]

Yeah it's a single 360 rad

[rapid lake]

Looks cool though

[civic cloud]

These go down and connect to the rad under the shroud

[rapid lake]

Not the writing on the tubes

[civic cloud]

DUDE I was so mad when I saw they put fucking printing on them

Like WHY

But like, the PC was already disassembled so it is what it is

[rapid lake]

Maybe it will come off with acetone

[civic cloud]

Maybe

But I don't see it cuz the pc is under the desk

🤝😎

[rapid lake]

I was about to say that

Does that work better for cable management too?

[civic cloud]

Quick tech question, I enabled secure boot for the BF6 beta...are there any disadvantages to having that on?

[civic cloud]

Yeah all the cables go straight into the cable channels

[thin turtle]

[quaint helm]

no just slower than fast boot i got that issue earlier lol

[thin turtle]

Isn't that a skill issue

[civic cloud]

I have fast boot off

[thin turtle]

So tidy 😊

[civic cloud]

The two hanging cables are for mice

[thin turtle]

Pog

What the hell is the gpu

Did you make it yourself

In a cave

[rapid lake]

I want to get some some velcro cable ties

[quaint helm]

caverock-3080

[civic cloud]

No I paid lots of monies to aquacool after paying more monies to gigabyte

[quaint helm]

linuth teth tibs

[thin turtle]

Cave what

[rapid lake]

Pass

[civic cloud]

They just came with the cable channels lol

[thin turtle]

And you chose a 3080

[civic cloud]

My man this was one month after release

I was happy that I got a card at all

[rapid lake]

Richest ever college student wtf

[thin turtle]

[thin turtle]

I'm happy for you

[quaint helm]

alphacool u mean

[rapid lake]

Probably ate noodles for two straight months after that

[thin turtle]

Send it for inspection, I'll send my pc too

[civic cloud]

I got paid for studying and lived rent free lol

[civic cloud]

Yis :3

[thin turtle]

This is the treatment straight As students get

[rapid lake]

I might go to germany for my masters

[civic cloud]

There's a model in Germany (duales Studium) which means you get an apprenticeship and study at the same time, a company pays you but you have to work X Years for the company after getting your degree

[thin turtle]

So nice

[rapid lake]

Ngl I’m not a huge fan of those deals

[civic cloud]

so in my case I have to stay 5 years

[thin turtle]

Is that why you're stuck in management

[quaint helm]

how much per month? and any benefits

[civic cloud]

Yeah lol

[thin turtle]

Fr man, we barely find jobs here

[civic cloud]

1.9k€ after taxes and private health insurance

[thin turtle]

Shit is miserable for engineers

[civic cloud]

It might be more/less now, there's a base payment and then pay a bonus depending on how much they need new people

[rapid lake]

By the time you get out you’ll have forgotten how to engineer

[civic cloud]

I don't really plan on leaving, it's a govt position

[thin turtle]

Stay

[quaint helm]

o dam u can stay till old lol

[thin turtle]

You'll get them retirement benefits too

[civic cloud]

Yeah

the current plan is to finish my masters so I can get into the higher payment ranks 🤝

Then move to berlin

[thin turtle]

And finish PhD

[quaint helm]

makes me want to find part time while studying but my schedule quite fked lmao

[civic cloud]

PhD has absolutely no benefit for me

[thin turtle]

It has benefits for me

[civic cloud]

Get a chill full-time job with remote work, then study

[civic cloud]

Why

[thin turtle]

Idk I'm a nerd

[civic cloud]

You like being called Doctor?

[thin turtle]

Or pretending to be a nerd

[quaint helm]

my schedule is so fked that some day 8-6 some 12-2 💀

[civic cloud]

Get a job 9-5 job

Nothing worse than working shifts

[thin turtle]

[quaint helm]

at least u can flex ur tittle

[thin turtle]

Remote jobs are so rare

[rapid lake]

Getting a PhD can have lots of benefits though

[thin turtle]

Retirement project reall

[rapid lake]

You’ll connect with lots of people that can help you move up quickly, and you’ll learn a lot of stuff

Especially if your Uni professor is supporting you

He’ll hook you up

[thin turtle]

Going to a college to destroy some self esteems

[civic cloud]

Yes, but in the govt world it doesn't benefit you

[rapid lake]

In your case yeah

[civic cloud]

And there's like one guy with a PhD in the company we work with

[lost fossil]

straight ass students

[raven berry]

How do I join rp server

[civic cloud]

Wait sorry it's a woman

[thin turtle]

Doctors are the most unserious people

[rapid lake]

LOL true

[raven berry]

hi

[thin turtle]

Hello