tech-coding-math

[thin turtle]

cloud gaming?

[sterile cliff]

Ye

[thin turtle]

ah I thought you were streaming content

[sterile cliff]

No no

My gameplay 90% of the time is me dying

I am NOT streaming that

[thin turtle]

that's where the fun is

[manic ibex]

Some people like that

[sterile cliff]

I died 2 times today on warzone

When i activated my chute then cut it

[manic ibex]

Play bootcamp

[sterile cliff]

Thinking it would open again once close to the ground

So yeah 2 times to that

Then add like

20 more kills to being dumped on by enemy teams

[cobalt cobalt]

my disk usuage is randomly going up like 1-27%

idk why

im in a discord call rn maybe thats why but idk like its strange i havent seen it do that before

i just restarted my computer after that

and it just spiked again obv when background app

its back at 0% i think thats the issue problem solved

[brave field]

Did you sort by disk usage in task manager? Its normal to have some on and off activity

[cobalt cobalt]

yuh

alr ty lol

im hella paranoid

[modest wyvern]

simple, because windows.

[sterile cliff]

Thats just windows

Dont worry its nothing

[wary pawn]

You can use external apps like processhacker to see what is going on with the disk. Whenever i check, it is windows caching files, so i don’t think yours is much different.

[cobalt cobalt]

Yipeee

[cobalt cobalt]

Yuh ty

Lowk I think I'm just over paranoid about ts

[nova steppe]

i'm finna crash out

[exotic patrol]

he crashed out

[sterile cliff]

Hi finna crash out

[civic arch]

aint the 9070 the 5070 competitor not the xt

[lost fossil]

Tariffs Making Everything in US More Expensive, including new Switch 2
eu and everywhere else:

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

[civic arch]

switch 2 be getting scalped by the one company that sells them

in finland

no one else has the rights to sell it here

[rapid lake]

45-50 idle and 55-73 C CPU temp is normal right?

I’m using the stock cooler and a (exhaust?) fan at the side

[craggy thicket]

Banned aduritecrimson (Case #352128) (user notified with a direct message)

[rapid lake]

55-73 is while playing minecraft

[lost fossil]

it's fine

[rapid lake]

But it only gets to 73 for a brief second

Fine meaning good or fine meaning it won’t kill my cpu

[lost fossil]

for a stock kuhler it's good

[rapid lake]

How is your temps

[lost fossil]

minecraft is not as lightweight on the hardware as it "looks"

[rapid lake]

[rapid lake]

On mine yeah it’s not light

[lost fossil]

i have my fans running quiet af which is why temps are high

[rapid lake]

Ah

Fair

I wonder if having a 2060 in there will have an impact on the CPU temp aswell

My current GPU doesn’t really emit that much heat even though it has one tiny ass fan

[craggy thicket]

Banned smart_4248 (Case #352136) (user notified with a direct message)

[craggy thicket]

⚠ User is already banned indefinitely.

[lost fossil]

not as smart

[toxic sentinel]

Yes, but RX 9070 makes no sense when you can get RX 9070 XT by paying 50-100€ more.

[wary pawn]

RX 9070 makes no sense when you can get RX 9070 by paying 50-100€ more.

[lost fossil]

he meant that RX 9070 XT makes no sense when you can get RX 9070 by paying 50-100€ more.

[upbeat spade]

https://tenor.com/view/standing-kitty-cutiepie-gif-6698252999604200247

[wary pawn]

[lost fossil]

[civic arch]

bro had too much milk

[brave field]

2060 will spit out a tiny bit more heat but nothing to worry about

[snow rover]

chat which one of you uses solidworks

thinkin of buying a license

does it have any stupid quirks

fusion is pretty good but it has just enough stupidities to have me consider changing

[thin turtle]

I do

I had an issue, but not sure how to describe it

it basically sucks in making a proper curved "wall"

something like this

but 3d \

it was so unnecessarily complex and unstable

it also doesn't allow you to modify assemblies

you'll need to take the whole thing apart

besides these, it's one of the easiest to use

but Idk

I can't call myself an expert on the matter, I used it only on small to medium assemblies

[cobalt cobalt]

My computer is on really cool temperature ever since I opened my window

Might be goated

[lost fossil]

buy portable ac duct pipe and a stronk fan, put it outside to pull the air through the duct, somehow attach duct to the exhaust (or really any) vent on your computer case

important to make it exhaust the air to the outside so that you don't end up with street dirt in ur pc
and also to avoid condensation in the pc when it gets cold in the winter

[nova steppe]

This is literally what I was planning on doing

i just need a filter the right size to put on the rest of the window, as the pollen is crazy and I have allergies

[lost fossil]

[unreal iron]

Pc building question @lost fossil @cobalt cobalt

I have 1 old fan and a new fan

Where do I put them both

It used to be one intake one exhaust

Now I have a bigger cpu cooler, and an additional 120mm fan

The front t of the case is where this one fan is mounted but it's a Montech Flayer

It sucks air under the front and from that little side port

Do I move them to the top of the case, and then the new fan is an exhaust?

I tend to stack stuff on top of this case, in spite of there being a vent

Because space is limited on my desk

(,I'm almost maxing out usbs

[nova steppe]

Do you stack things so large they cover both top fan mounts?

[unreal iron]

I'm over on usbs I have a usb bank

Yeah

I'm wanting to reorganize the desk

The psvr sits there, the usb dock, and hard drive bank

And it faces the cable mess

The glass faces the wall

[nova steppe]

because with a panel that restrictive (doesn't look like the parts get hot anyway, but), I'd flip the fan on the CPU cooler to the other side, then put intake on the front with exhaust on the Top towards the front

[unreal iron]

The exhaust and back of the pc (as it was built) faces me and runs cables behind a TV so it's all hidden

[nova steppe]

Oh, btw, is the barrel jack on that power cable that goes to the usb hub Center Positive or Center Negative? I have a power adapter where I can flip the tip to change polarity, but I don't know which one it uses

and if none of the components you have plugged in have died, then I think yours is correct, lol

[unreal iron]

I have no idea how do I tell

[nova steppe]

that's center positive, thank you

mine doesn't list it anywhere

[unreal iron]

What does this impact or was it for you

[nova steppe]

It's just so I can actually charge things while connected to my PC. It takes hours for my mouse and controller to charge

if I plug my phone in, it says it'll take 8 hours, lol

[unreal iron]

So, you're saying since my pc sits in such an odd way, make the cpu cooler blow towards the middle, and then mount a fan as exhaust in the center top?

^<

4 fans total

3 intake center fan is exhaust

[cobalt cobalt]

Just like double checking

My gpu crashed and like booted me out yhe game

It's good right?

I tabbed back into ky game and it just crashed

[nova steppe]

Oh, I thought you only had that one fan in the front and 1 new one. If you have that many, then just load up the front with intake, and one on the rear for exhaust

[unreal iron]

I have 2 old fans, 1 new (quieter) fan, and the one mounted to the new cooler

Front has space for 2, top has space for 2, back has space for 1

The back faces me the front has about 2 feet of open corner to suck air from under thosecables

So fill both front spots, and the one exhaust slot, do not put any on the top mounts? @nova steppe

[nova steppe]

Well, you wouldn't have any more to put on the top, as you need to leave the one on your CPU cooler. Don't count that as a case fan

[unreal iron]

I'm adding one new case fan, so.it should increase intake before I increase exhaust?

[nova steppe]

typically, yeah

[zealous anvil]

5080 good gpu?

[snow gazelle]

Depends on the price

[unreal iron]

If you're not getting lobotomised over the pricetag

There not the absolute revolution over 40 series they were promised to be, if that's what you're asking

But it's not like that's weak

[jovial tide]

Also if you don't mind not playing older games unless you do a workaround

[unreal iron]

So i powered up to test. GPU issue. Reseated it, it booted to bios. I move it here and GPU issue again

[nova steppe]

where does one acquire that becca sticker

[unreal iron]

Etsy i think

[jovial tide]

I wonder what the conveniently placed Arasaka sticker is for

[unreal iron]

Its for my gf

Less sticker more why is GPU broke lol

[unreal iron]

I can find it on my Etsy on the pc

Ut my pc has to be working to do that

Anyway is wanted to show how much sits on top blocking the top vent

[nova steppe]

yeah i get it

[unreal iron]

The only thing I altered was unplugging a hdmi and carrying it

[civic cloud]

Does the PC still turn on but no video output or what's the problem

Why is my role colour so ugly

[void turret]

Because old gen consoles has darker color. New gen has brighter color.

[lost fossil]

first get a leaf blower and clean that pc

second take everything off your desk and then after wiping it clean put things back on slowly one by one

[civic cloud]

While also sorting out 90%

[civic cloud]

???? I'm on pc

[lost fossil]

aren't they all center positive? isn't that the point to make the live pin harder to get to to avoid harm?

[lost fossil]

[void turret]

Yes, legacy is old gen version and enhanced is new gen

[lost fossil]

silly gauss

[civic cloud]

Can you give me the better looking colour bbg

[nova steppe]

A lot of effects pedals for like guitars use center negative.
All of mine do except for two, which is why the adapter lets your swap

[cold elbow]

Haha noob

[civic cloud]

Silence pleb

[thin turtle]

I did some undervolting

start
V: 1125 mV
Pwr: 134 W
Fps: 123 fps
clk: 1366 MHz
Temp: 84 C

End
V: 900 mV
Pwr: 93 W
Fps: 118 fps
clk: 1300 MHz
Temp: 75 C

power efficiency: +30.597%
fps: -4.065%
clock: -4.831%

seems like a good trade off

I could do better temps if I tweak fan speed

oh yeah
benchmark utility: MSI Kombustor

[thin turtle]

ohh temps dropped to 67 and power to 90 after tweaking fan speed

even framerate improved

[lost fossil]

furmark is one of the tools but not the tool to benchmark temps and stability

[thin turtle]

nono

[lost fossil]

[thin turtle]

cumbustor

[lost fossil]

cumbuster is furmark with a coat of paint

[exotic patrol]

hey oreo

[thin turtle]

also gta for 30 mins

e

gtae

[lost fossil]

i mean, if it works, it works, but i'm just saying you should test with more things than just furmark/cumbuster

[exotic patrol]

who messed up the role order lol

[thin turtle]

what else

gmaes ?

[lost fossil]

games that you play is a good call

[thin turtle]

I don't usually watch framerate tbh

I just set it to highest playable setting on certain games

like fps games I go for 120+

the rest can go down to 70

this was just for science

[fallow forge]

Anyone have a fix for steam not booting up?

It gets stuck on "Loading user data"

[thin turtle]

reinstall

[void turret]

Ha, blue comfy

[thin turtle]

playstation on top

[void turret]

Yes

[unreal iron]

Boot beep, then the 1long 3short

[untold hornet]

where is bot commands channel

[thin turtle]

uh

say !cmds or somthn

ye

[untold hornet]

thanks

[thin turtle]

np

[cold elbow]

Do u have these small 4 leds on motherboard that Indicates what is wrong? They usually be on the right side or bottom

Also it might be ram issue so try reseat them or leave one

[mystic solar]

Alr, is there an issue with discord and 4K UHD videos? Every time I upload a 4K UHD video on here it gets compressed so badly it’s incomprehensible if I change my captures to 4K SDR will that fix it?

[thin turtle]

vro is discord

[mystic solar]

Or I could just get nitro but I’d rather not spend 12$ / mo for something that I rarely use

[civic cloud]

Did you check your motherboard for the error code, the beeps mean something

It's the old version of the LEDs melon mentioned

[unreal iron]

I don't think my board has LEDs

I'll mess with it tonight

[civic cloud]

Yes that's why you have a speaker which beeps

[unreal iron]

I do have LEDs somewhere or no?

I will try to reseat the ram first tonight

[civic cloud]

Just look up the beep beeps in the manual

[nova steppe]

It gets compressed regardless of Nitro (regarding your second comment)

[mystic solar]

Then fuck nitro

How do you all get such good videos?..

Ima try maybe doing it in 1080p SDR and see if it doesn’t compress the fuck out of it like it does my 4K clips but I’ll have to do it later when I’m at home

[sterile cliff]

Yea its discord

[mystic solar]

So just do it in HD and not 4K?

[sterile cliff]

Ye it helps more

[unreal iron]

[mystic solar]

I ordered this thing on February 27th of 2024, just came in today 💀 tbh I never thought it would show up

[junior flax]

tell me u got a refund 😭

[mystic solar]

Yep. Also got the iPad I guess

[nova steppe]

now you can use that refund to get me one

[mystic solar]

Nah I spent that money on a new monitor

[nova steppe]

[mystic solar]

I mean it’s got a crack in it but a free iPad is a free iPad

[junior flax]

cant complain at it

[junior flax]

buy applecare on it if its still possible

[mystic solar]

Nah I got it on an auction

[nova steppe]

wait, it arrived with a crack, or you cracked it already?

[mystic solar]

AppleCare is long expired but it did have it

[nova steppe]

ah

[junior flax]

ah it was pre used

aye free ipad with a crack is better then no ipad no crack

[nova steppe]

i can see where all the stickers were

[mystic solar]

Yea but it was an auction company so I’m not gunna bother reaching out if it doesn’t really impact them too much

[junior flax]

well u got the refund

so id jus stay quiet

[mystic solar]

If I just stole someone’s iPad that’s different

Mf auction companies be forcing me to steal now

[mystic solar]

Fr I don’t even know how or where this has been for over 365 days 💀

[junior flax]

probs stuck in a shipping warehouse

[mystic solar]

Probably, it doesn’t have any activity on it in the past year so idk

Idk how it was still 47% charged though

[unreal iron]

@cold elbow @civic cloud
Ok so it uhhhhhh booted on power up i ain't touched shit

It booted to bios now I am lost again

[cold elbow]

It's scared of my tech tips

[unreal iron]

One cha is exhaust, one is an intake

The opt fan is also intake

[cold elbow]

Can you see your boot device there

[unreal iron]

If i save and exit it brings me right back

[cold elbow]

3 devices

[unreal iron]

Wym

One sata is windows 10, one holds games, and the third is an ssd for faster games

[cold elbow]

You have 3 stprage devices and one usb storage device

[unreal iron]

I have more than 3 but yes

[cold elbow]

Do u see that on right that says boot priority

Put the one with windows there

[unreal iron]

Click and drag?

[cold elbow]

Yeah

[cold elbow]

Nice abomination

One of your troubleshooting steps is disconnecting that

[unreal iron]

Its off right now

Connected but off

I cannot drag

[cold elbow]

Disconnect

Go to boot menu F8 and see what u can do

U can also try to reset bios

[unreal iron]

No Bootable devices

Oh this is. I've had to do this before

[cold elbow]

Maybe it's trying a setting and failing... that's why it's bringing you back so u can change it

[unreal iron]

This is because of some bios fuckery I did to get the 3060 to work

[cold elbow]

[unreal iron]

Well it was because of the 1050

[cold elbow]

Maybe it's UEFI/LEGACY shit

[unreal iron]

Yes!

[cold elbow]

Or secure boot

Reset your bios

[unreal iron]

No it's legacy something

That sounds ds familiar

[cold elbow]

Then disable secure boot

[unreal iron]

Where

[cold elbow]

Hmmm

Good question

It's

somewhere

Probably in boot menu

Or something related to that

[unreal iron]

Boot configuration sound right?

[cold elbow]

Yeah...

[civic arch]

please clean your monitoer

also dont sneeze on it

[lost fossil]

you need to find the secure boot option and disable it if it's enabled

and then find the csm setting and enable that

and then you should be able to select which devices to show in the boot menu - legacy/uefi/both (select both)

been a minute since i've been to the asus beavis so i don't remember exqctly where these settings would be

oh wait melon already mentioned all that

[unreal iron]

Oh shit i found em ok hang on

[unreal iron]

Ok so
To me, in the future
If the pc isn't working check the GPU, its a ghost in the machine, nothing you can do. The computer WILL NOT BOOT without it
you have an Asus Prime B460M-A
Bios version 1603
2 sticks of 8GB ram, ddr4, 2666MHz
Cpu i5-10400F at 2900MHz
You have an EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti XC Gaming

When the gpu is removed, it resets BIOS, to fix this:
enable CSM in the BOOT MENU under Advanced,
Option1 is BOTH legacy and wufi
Options 2,3,4 need to say EUFI not legacy

[cold elbow]

What even is csm

[brave field]

compatibility support module

[cold elbow]

But why

[brave field]

allows for mbr boot sectors and ps/2 devices and PCI and all

[cold elbow]

Ohhh

[brave field]

ever since the move to UEFI its been there to help ease the transition

devices like GPUs have both UEFI firmware and BIOS firmware

[cold elbow]

Im guessing it's an asus thing

[brave field]

all x86 computing

some boards might just call it "legacy support" tho

[cold elbow]

Never had to deal with it using msi and gigabyte boards

Oh yeah

Legacy i know

[brave field]

There's different aspects to it though, I need to do more research

[cold elbow]

Didn't know it also affect GPU

[brave field]

I can boot over a legacy network adapter in UEFI mode on my board

[cold elbow]

Tbh i also Never understood uefi and legacy stuff

[brave field]

I have a Maxsun RX 580 that blinks white and green when booting with CSM off

[cold elbow]

So i kept using legacy

[brave field]

Its confusing, because not everything is controlled by just the CSM option. Try to move to UEFI everything if you can though. You probably already boot from a GPT partitioned drive

Its nice having my BIOS run at 1080p and not 800x600 stretched

[cold elbow]

Well mine used to be 800x600

With last bios update it became 1080

And im still on legacy

[unreal iron]

Oh it's cookie!

Cookie has helped me keep this computer alive for so long

[brave field]

Might be UEFI display but either/or mode for booting?

[unreal iron]

[cold elbow]

Yeah idk it's confusing

[unreal iron]

Its up and running now that's why I wrote a future reminder

[cold elbow]

Did u enable xmp tho?

[unreal iron]

Melon offered advice and it was some of colomn a some of colomn b

[unreal iron]

Is that a ram thing

[cold elbow]

Yes

[unreal iron]

No it started and ended disabled

Does it need to be on

[cold elbow]

Yes

[unreal iron]

[cold elbow]

To get your advertised ram speed

[unreal iron]

How do I get back into this boot menu

F1 on start?

No that's not it

[cold elbow]

Testart and mash f2

[unreal iron]

Thatsthe other boot menu

F2 ok

[unreal iron]

I'll show u my testart

Ok enabled now what do I do about the fans

I do not like that none of the fans match speeds is that ok

[cold elbow]

It's totally fine

[unreal iron]

Is this an acceptable curve

[brave field]

meh

[cold elbow]

We can make your pc fans run better later with a software called fancontrol

[unreal iron]

I have something like that

[cold elbow]

Probably garbage asus thing

[unreal iron]

No i downloaded it because cod made my shit hot

(Why I bought this new cooler and an extra fan)

[cold elbow]

Oh ok then no point changing anything here

[unreal iron]

I had taken the side panel off

Hopefully now it's efficient enough that the cpu doesn't hit 90

Yeah it's named Speedfan

[cold elbow]

Bad

FanControl is superior

[unreal iron]

is it free do I need to switch

is it a big deal

[brave field]

(just do it in BIOS)

[unreal iron]

[nova steppe]

You have an "F" Intel CPU anyway, so you wouldn't get any output without the GPU.

Not every CPU has integrated graphics

[unreal iron]

I thought that was a mobo thing

[brave field]

pre-ddr3 days, yes

[lost fossil]

@brave field i received an electric solder pump from ali and it's a godsend

it's like a soldering iron but with a hole in the middle to succ the solder more efficiently. i got some of those tiny sockets to convert an old mech kb of mine to hotswap and the idea with them is that you press them in with a hot iron and they get stuck in place by themselves using the solder that was left behind after desoldering the switch, well, this pump was so effective that i had to add solder to the holes before pressing these sockets in bc there was simply no solder left

[lost fossil]

[civic cloud]

[snow rover]

switches being sold as packs of 10 is the norm

[lost fossil]

some are sold as packs of 45 (which is admittedly worse in my case)

[solar jungle]

Dude wth 😭😭

This thing is so old and small

God damn

It’s fucking antique

There’s also an option to install an SSD

[lost fossil]

msata ssd

[solar jungle]

😭

I don't even think it can handle Windows

1 gigs of ram bro 💀

I think I'll install Linux on it

[lost fossil]

or actually thats ddr2 so

[solar jungle]

hmm, maybe I'll upgrade it

actually a colleague gave it to me

for free 💀

[civic cloud]

Average sized

[fickle finch]

Thats what she said

[toxic sentinel]

Anyone know how to get stuck GPU out?

Kinda afraid to use all of my power, because it will probably break the whole slot

[junior flax]

u sure all screws are undone

as well as gpu being unclipped

i know the latter from first hand experience and my motherboard pcie slot now no longer having a clip

[toxic sentinel]

Yes

[toxic sentinel]

It’s stuck on the clip I think

[junior flax]

make sure clips fully undone and try and wiggle it out

left to right wiggle not up down

and not a big wiggle

[toxic sentinel]

Wiggling won’t help

[junior flax]

oh

mhm

[toxic sentinel]

Building PC is easy they said

And it took only 30mins…

[lost fossil]

installing these gum drives correctly is crucial

[toxic sentinel]

I did reinsert that other m.2, but still won’t show up in windows

Need to check if there is something in BIOS

[unreal iron]

@lost fossil @civic cloud @brave field

He's cool with a prebuilt

Idk if I asked before he didn't seem in a hurry and he came out the office asking about it 5 minutes ago lol

[lost fossil]

do you have any sata drives connected

i do not know how to prebuilt

and it depends on the country heavily

my bad

[twin badger]

I don't understand the point of buying prebuilt PC's from big companies, just pay someone knowledgable to build that PC for you for a cheaper price and with better quality

[civic cloud]

Honestly I haven't kept up with what's the new hot shit these days, but with 3k he doesn't have that much of a constraint

[unreal iron]

I don't mind assembling it

[civic cloud]

keep like 500 in reserve for a good 1440p 144hz monitor and kB/mouse/headset

[unreal iron]

But if you give a partlist he will just agree to it and it can put it together

[unreal iron]

That includes peripherals sorry

[twin badger]

Also, with the way graphics cards are nowadays, 3000 seems more and more like the type of budget you need for a good system, whereas before that 2000 would get you that

[civic cloud]

Yeah so 2.5k for pc

[unreal iron]

Yeeeeeeee

[twin badger]

He mentioned 3D modelling, which programs specifically is he gonna use? @unreal iron

Because if it's something like Blender, it has to be Nvidia

[unreal iron]

so be it

He mentioned something that can interface with 3d printing

[thin turtle]

3090 something

or 5080 but that exceeds the budget right?

[unreal iron]

Gaming is the #1 priority he says lol

So gotta that answer

[thin turtle]

40 series is extinct and 50 series is overpriced

so idk

5070 hmm

[twin badger]

5070 Ti if possible

[thin turtle]

ya

but price is not within 1500

the card itself might be a 1000 in this economy

[unreal iron]

[thin turtle]

hmm

I will get a used 3080 soon

the dealer has 600 units

I was shocked

instantly made a quotation

[unreal iron]

Not my money as long as the rig runs well for as close to a decade before it's outmoded

[thin turtle]

what cpu you wanna get

[unreal iron]

He said "a good one"

[thin turtle]

you might want to get more ram as well

[unreal iron]

He is trusting me to trust yall lol

[thin turtle]

like 64

[unreal iron]

Like a used car, slap the case and say "this will play almost any game for the next 5 years and then you'll be on medium settings for 5 more"

He'll say sold

Hes....urban

lol

He's not a big gamer he's a console mostly guy who just knows turning it on and firing up the games, but sees the light that pc will outlive his xbox

[thin turtle]

idk man

if he's not serious about the 3D stuff

then maybe save on the gpu

[unreal iron]

(He probably wants to open blender and make a donut)

[thin turtle]

AMD cards run blender

but NVIDIA cards are faster and better overall

my take is that if someone wanna do amateur work then amd is not a bad option

you can check reviews on certain cards for modeling

[unreal iron]

I know nothing about 3d demands so I will default to your judgement

[thin turtle]

AMD cards are not far behind, the difference will show on big renders

[unreal iron]

I asked him and he gave a waffle answer, that's why I said gaming was #1

[thin turtle]

I see

[unreal iron]

So he probably wants to be able to open 3d software do something along a YouTube video and feel like he did something, but not actually invest hours into learning it

[thin turtle]

Idk ask lemonbubbles

and cora

these two have experience

I'm just about theory

[unreal iron]

What's the build you recommend?

[thin turtle]

I do 3D modeling, but light work

[unreal iron]

Thats more than he's done lol

[thin turtle]

I can't recommend a build really 😭

[unreal iron]

[thin turtle]

but for gaming it's better to get a ryzen cpu almost always
and the gpu that offers the best value for your resolution

(usally an AMD card)

if your friend is coming from console then get him a 1440p high capable card

and a cpu that doesn't bottleneck it

usually intel i5s or the mid range of ryzen 7s

newer i5s

[unreal iron]

12th gen?

[thin turtle]

13 to 14

[unreal iron]

Oh my

[thin turtle]

cheap vro

like 13400/14400 should be enough

the same cpu get whatever cheaper

but amd surely has better options in that price range

[twin badger]

Nah, go AM5

Which has an ACTUAL upgrade path

[thin turtle]

yea

just hypotheticals here

what would pair good with a 1440p card

[twin badger]

9600X/9700X

[thin turtle]

real

[twin badger]

X3D chips aswell, if you can afford em

[thin turtle]

hardcore cards

chips*

I just learned what 3D means

genius

does amd make the chips or is it tsmc still

[paper zealot]

Whats the difference between a i5 10400f and a ryzen 5 5000

Im asking cause im scouting 2 pcs at the moment

Both have a 3060 12gb

[thin turtle]

is it ryzen 5 5000?

like what comes after the 5 ?

5500?

5600?

[paper zealot]

One has a ryzen 5 5000 and the other has a intel 10400f

Oh shit mb

Im blind

5500

[thin turtle]

lol

ryzen better

[paper zealot]

Theyre basically the same price but the difference is that one has a ryzen 5 5500 and a 512gb ssd the other is intel i5 10400f 240gb ssd

Looking at it now the one with a ryzen cpu and the better ssd is 210 dollars more but its on sale

[thin turtle]

the better deal is the ryzen build

if the same price

[paper zealot]

Yea the ryzen build is actually 30 dollars cheaper

The intel is 1680 and ryzen is 1650

My currency

In US that would be 931USD

[thin turtle]

expensive

[paper zealot]

Damn really?

I have no clue on the current pc economy

I used to be somewhat into the pc community but i fell out couple of years ago

[thin turtle]

kinda bad now

chip shortage and all

but still this build is overpriced

[paper zealot]

Damn

[thin turtle]

unless you can afford it

[paper zealot]

I can afford it thank god but didnt know it was like that

What would its price be normally

On estimate

For the parts cuz im so far behind on pc parts its crazy

Could be that its a pre build aswell so thats why its more

[thin turtle]

like 540 to 670 in my country

in dolla

[paper zealot]

Fuckin hell

What currency are you guys using

Thats on some GBP type shit

[thin turtle]

lol

I'm in Arabia

[paper zealot]

Ah

Makes sense

[cold elbow]

[lilac heath]

[void turret]

[lost fossil]

[civic cloud]

[civic cloud]

"astolfo cult"

[sterile cliff]

Bottom line?

Its expensive

Thats it

[paper zealot]

I mean its a nice ass pc its expected no?

[sterile cliff]

Yea

But not like 1000 bucks over what it usually costs

[lost fossil]

we live in some dark times for pc gaming

[sterile cliff]

Correction* we have been living in dark since 3 years ago

[lost fossil]

we have

[cold elbow]

Isk but pc parts are mostly cheap
Only GPUs that are new cost a lot
So they're also cheap if you look in the right place

[civic cloud]

Yeah like in the back of a delivery truck when no one's looking

[lost fossil]

🇫🇷

[thin turtle]

used market

and from mass buyers

usually mined cards lol

just gotta learn how to diagnose and fix them

if broken

[spiral jasper]

Whats the best thing to do when i retire my 3070ti

And no i will not give it to you if you say "give it to me"

[lost fossil]

don't give it to me

[spiral jasper]

Im thinking of making a seperate pc for a server purpose and a gpu in there would be wasteful

Perheps selling it?

[upbeat spade]

sell it to me

[thin turtle]

3070ti in this economy

don't mind if I do

[spiral jasper]

Yeah i got it 2 years ago

For like 750€

[upbeat spade]

only two years

[civic cloud]

and you want to get rid of it why?

Just wasteful

[spiral jasper]

I want amd

[upbeat spade]

[spiral jasper]

Cuz every time i update drivers it fucks with my game

[thin turtle]

brainwashed

[upbeat spade]

[civic cloud]

ok so it's a "want" and not a "need"

[upbeat spade]

you want to go amd because of drivers

[thin turtle]

does he know?

[upbeat spade]

he lacks critical information

[spiral jasper]

They have gotten better

Over the years no

[thin turtle]

no where near nvidia

[upbeat spade]

not to the point of "i should sell my two year old high performance gpu to swap", either

[thin turtle]

but that issue might be deeper than drivers

[spiral jasper]

How so

[thin turtle]

that's your job to find out

[spiral jasper]

Brother

[thin turtle]

what's the issue exactly

[spiral jasper]

I will take the advice and not get a new gpu yet

But the issue is still very annoying

[thin turtle]

tell me

[spiral jasper]

For example in war thunder when i update the drivers it fucks with my fps

[thin turtle]

I'm buying a 3080 soon

might wanna know

[spiral jasper]

Im talking about 70 to 90 fps drops

And textures "reset" so everything looks like its a ps2 game

[thin turtle]

did you use DDU beforehand (I know silly question)

[spiral jasper]

Ddu being what?

[thin turtle]

[upbeat spade]

💀

display driver uninstaller

typically when you have issues, you try to solve them by uninstalling your drivers and freshly reinstalling them

not by selling the perfectly fine hardware

[thin turtle]

smh my head

[upbeat spade]

search up how to reinstall your drivers

you might save yourself some money...

[thin turtle]

https://youtu.be/1XlwirtWs_c?si=lY6fNuuZPE4yGrdh @spiral jasper

this one comprehensive and short

sussy ahh intro

[spiral jasper]

Aight thanks

[spiral jasper]

Well the gpu i wanted to buy wouldnt me more money for what i planned to sell so

I would just go team red

Planned for a 7800xt

Or maybe a 7900gre

[civic cloud]

omg then you will have the same GPU as me :D

[thin turtle]

GPU market is a bit expensive now

not recommended buying new stuff

[upbeat spade]

personally, for my purposes, i wouldn't get rid of an nvidia gpu unless it was really behind the times
because there are things i do with a computer that necessitate an nvidia gpu
i understand that's different for other people with other purposes, but to keep your options open, i'd honestly stick with nvidia unless you know for a fact that a computer is just another gaming console to you

[thin turtle]

nice

I found one for a very nice price

350 dola

[civic cloud]

I paid 1050 :D

But that was like a month after launch

[thin turtle]

oh my

[upbeat spade]

depreciation a bitch

[thin turtle]

yeah mine's used

but fr this card is the price of the whole pc 😭

couldn't miss out

[civic cloud]

350 seems too good to be true

Make sure to test it properly 🤝

[thin turtle]

yes

they told me they brought 1000 units and returned 400

mined cards most likely

[civic cloud]

Yeah lol

[thin turtle]

well

[upbeat spade]

refund liability go brr

[civic cloud]

It is what it is

[thin turtle]

1 month warranty

enough to find issues

[toxic sentinel]

I have new GPU

Couldn’t resist amazing deal when got basically new Arc B580 at 265€ when it’s 350€ brand new.

[lost fossil]

damn

[timber escarp]

I got a 4060 for £250

[lost fossil]

damn [2]

[toxic sentinel]

RTX 4060 has too low VRAM for my needs

[timber escarp]

Zotac gaming one

Not bad

[toxic sentinel]

As I have 1440p monitor

[timber escarp]

Gpu has a permanent light on for its name on the front

Only problem

When my pc is on overnight

I can turn my rgb off but not that :’)

So I have to cover my pc’s glass door

Or suffer

[lost fossil]

see if the light strip cable on the board is easily accessible

if so, you can try disconnecting it

[timber escarp]

I have 2 curved 75hz 1080p msi ones

I don’t care about 4k or any of that bs

1080 works fine

I don’t play most of the time, I mostly do programming

[timber escarp]

Fuck that too much effort

[timber escarp]

Also it probably won’t be accessible lol

I don’t fancy disassembling it

[toxic sentinel]

Works fine, but best quality monitors starts at 1440p I think

[timber escarp]

I don’t really need best quality tbh

[toxic sentinel]

When this one breaks I might consider Oled

[timber escarp]

I only play 1 game that would benefit from 1440p+

And that’s Spider-Man 2 and I don’t really play it much anymore

[toxic sentinel]

I don't have TV so my monitor is where I watch and play most of my stuff

[timber escarp]

I have a small Samsung smart tv in my room cuz only like a few inches bigger would fit and I cba buying nor can I afford a new one

I don’t care too much about quality

As long as I can’t see the pixels

1080p is my minimum and preferred quality

[toxic sentinel]

1440p is pretty bad resolution for movies or TV shows though

[thin turtle]

that's just display issue

and copressed media

[lost fossil]

who doesn't like a few inches bigger

[thin turtle]

try getting uncompressed movies

[toxic sentinel]

most media are 1080p so it doesn't scale well on 1440p,

[thin turtle]

hm

[toxic sentinel]

4K would be better at that as it's perfect scaling

[thin turtle]

what's the reason

[toxic sentinel]

It was something like 1080p on 1440p monitor would make GPU to have to guess pixels when scaling

While in 1080p on 4K monitor it's 2x so GPU don't have to make up pixels

Quality loss won't bother most people probably anyway

[thin turtle]

is 4k 2160x3940

[toxic sentinel]

But if you want best movie or tv show viewing experience 4K would be better than 1440p

On gaming 1440p is better than 4K imo as more fps

I guess you could just use DLSS or FSR on 4K monitor anyway

[toxic sentinel]

Yeah something like that

It should be exactly 2x 1080p

[thin turtle]

3840

ye

1080x1920

[civic cloud]

Size doesn't matter

[twin badger]

this mf spittin

[thin turtle]

need me a good psu for this 3080 fr

[lost fossil]

on that thang?

[thin turtle]

[cold elbow]

Watching live streams on firefox is really pissing me off

It's so annoying that from time to time ot stops responding and RAM usage goes up the roof like one tab and ram usage is 8GB just from firefox

Happened on 3 computers now

So once again....

I need a good browser so what do you guys recommend?

[civic cloud]

Firefox

[cold elbow]

Bad browser

[lost fossil]

just firefawcks things

[cold elbow]

I might try opera gx

[junior flax]

i just use chrome

[twin badger]

[twin badger]

Brave works fine for me.

[solar jungle]

!shitposting

[iron pecan]

Shitposting is only allowed in #memes-and-shitposting.

Shitposting is a failure to make a constructive post, posting memes, trolling, or other forms of degrading the chat quality.

This is up to the moderator's discretion. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Shit Posting

Requested by: @solar jungle

[solar jungle]

[solar jungle]

just use Chrome

it's great

or any chromium based browser really

[cold elbow]

Chrome banned adblockers recently

[solar jungle]

no way, because mine's still working

[cold elbow]

It will always be a cat and mouse game

They blocked the best one which is ublock origin

[solar jungle]

Use Edge

It's also chromium based

[civic cloud]

ublock still works great on Firefox pc and Firefox mobile

[solar jungle]

I've heard some people praising Brave but idk, I've never used anything other than Chrome and Safari

[solar jungle]

but she doesn't wanna use FF

31,000,000 users, wtf

[rose yacht]

then tough luck

[solar jungle]

Honestly Edge isn't that bad, but that CoPilot AI shit is unbearable

[rose yacht]

edge is absolutely dogshit horrendous

[solar jungle]

CoPilot is the reason I switched to an LTSC version of Win11

[solar jungle]

Other than CoPilot and Bing it's not that bad

But I still deleted it from my system

[rose yacht]

also if i am not wrong, win 11 ltsc will be getting copilot

[solar jungle]

aww hell nah wtf

[rose yacht]

some people said they've seen copilot there

dont trust my words tho i might be wrong

[solar jungle]

hmm, I nearly decided to switch back to Win10 lol

[rose yacht]

i mean, we've got like 5 months until win 10 is dead

[solar jungle]

idrc

I'll probably go to an LTSC version

10 years of support

[rose yacht]

true

[solar jungle]

I don't have anything against AI, but I absolutely hate how certain companies forces that on us

It should be a choice

not a necessity

Fuck, even WA has their own Meta AI shit

What's next? AI in Steam?

[civic cloud]

Sometimes you have to force people to make the right decision

[solar jungle]

(smiling-mcu-exhale-thanos-infinity-stone-gif)

[fickle finch]

microsoft edge

[toxic sentinel]

Naenara

[mystic solar]

I got myself an Artificially intelligent fridge, meaning it knows how to make me happy

[sterile cliff]

Not that terrible

I use it personally

I prefer it to chrome

[sterile cliff]

Brave or opera gx are good

Opera gx does have some decent features

Aswell as brave

[mystic solar]

So long as I am able to remember to stock it

[mystic solar]

For? Depends what you are using it for

[unreal iron]

Firefox

Brave's owners are involved in crypto (personal gripe, the browser facilitates it but otherwise not problematic) chromium based
Opera owned by Chinese company
Edge is shit
Thorium is chromium v3
Cromite is chromium
Firefox is propped up by Google so they don't get hit with AntiTrust

[lost fossil]

wtf is throatium

[exotic patrol]

as controversial at it is I think edge is the best

[lost fossil]

rather edgy opinion

[exotic patrol]

It's the only browser that was actually ram efficient on the abomination of a laptop

[unreal iron]

Firefox is notorious for running with difficulty on mobile I guess

Edge isn't terrible on pcs

Irs a very good Explorer replacement now

[unreal iron]

There's like a thousand Chromium forks.
Means they run chrome under the hood

[exotic patrol]

pretty much everything is a chromium fork except Firefox and a few other really small projects that run worse

[cold elbow]

This conversation seems pointless now so i will just lookup a browser that none of you ever heard of and use it.

[exotic patrol]

lol

use whatever suits you best

[civic cloud]

The Linux way

[exotic patrol]

exactly

on that note Firefox runs way better on Linux for some reason

atleast when I tried it

It felt much better

[cold elbow]

No it fucking doesn't

Still has the same memory leak issue while watching a stream

[exotic patrol]

which distro

[cold elbow]

Also

[unreal iron]

Pointless

proceeds to download worst possible chromium fork

[civic cloud]

Might as well just stick to chrome

[unreal iron]

Yeah

[night stone]

i had to cave in lockdown after waiting for almost a year iwth no price drops for a 3070 ti

[twin badger]

Why would i as the user of Brave give a shit about the crypto stuff the owners of the browser partake in?

It literally doesn't affect me whatsoever

[unreal iron]

Maybe you disagree with crypto and don't want to support cryptobros?

The browser itself has crypto market support

[twin badger]

I don't partake in anything involving crypto

[unreal iron]

(Not that you have to use it)

[twin badger]

I just use the browser because i like how it works

[unreal iron]

Just a concern some people have had

I prefer firefox

[twin badger]

I don't understand the concern here, crypto has been here for a good while now

and is gonna stay

[unreal iron]

I don't have any issues running firefox on MY android but some people say it runs like shit
Same kinda thing - maybe melon haaaates anything to do with crypto. Maybe melon loves investing and that's a neat extra feature

Other than privacy focus its a feature worth noting

[twin badger]

You don't have to be a crypto investor to like using Brave ffs

[unreal iron]

No

[twin badger]

don't tie em up together as if all users of Brave are some crypto shills

[unreal iron]

I didn't

Just the owners

Owner? Owning company?

Not sure how it's owned

[twin badger]

Again, don't give a damn about what they do.

Doesn't concern me.

I only care about the browser.

[unreal iron]

Ok

I dont understand the frustration here

[twin badger]

No frustration, i just don't like when people refer to Brave as solely the "Crypto browser"

[unreal iron]

Its an offshoot of chromium and touts itself as the security browser, otherwise. That's its shtick

[twin badger]

I just like the adblock features it has

[unreal iron]

Thats sort of why chromium is relevant. Google wants to kill adblockers

(They keep taking the L but that's beside the point)

[jovial tide]

I ended up switching from Brave to Firefox mostly cause of the privacy I didn't have an "issue" with Brave apart from...well, Chromium

[unreal iron]

I wanted off chromium specifically to avoid having to get an ad blocker every 6 months like it looked like google was getting ready to do then they calmed tf down

[twin badger]

ad blocking works just fine for me

[jovial tide]

I wanted to try Opera GX, but iirc it's also Chromium

[unreal iron]

Opera is the highly customizable option, but yes also chromium

[twin badger]

Chromium or not, it works

[jovial tide]

Pretty much why I've stuck to Firefox, "It just works" and I don't have to worry about goofy shit like with Google Chrome the RAM hog

[lost fossil]

nah i know about chromium

i meant throatium specifically because funny

[exotic patrol]

Micr0s0ft Wind0ws Supp0rt

They're not even trying anymore

[civic cloud]

seems legit

[void turret]

Scan Scam

[mystic solar]

Alr im sick of these fucking games with discord and their compressor, what’s the best codec to upload video files? My computer can convert any file type to any other file type natively

[mystic solar]

Enter the username: tryharder and the password: password

[mystic solar]

maybe this is why my videos always turn out so shitty on here..

[manic ibex]

What is a good cheap mouse to buy?

[mystic solar]

Wired or wireless

[manic ibex]

The cheaper option

[mystic solar]

For wired I use the razer viper mini, ion use it for gaming mainly just school and work but I think it’s good

it’s a gaming mouse I just haven’t used it for gaming

Just like I haven’t used my gaming keyboard for gaming, just for collecting dust

Dammmm that thing is 120$?!?.. I paid 75$ for mine

[high delta]

[mystic solar]

Imagine buying things in 2025, couldn’t be me 💀

[civic cloud]

G502

[snow gazelle]

g502 is heavy af

[civic cloud]

the requirements were "good" and "cheap"

[twin badger]

"Good" is a bit of a subjective term

[civic cloud]

Good things aren't cheap, so you could replace the requirement with "bang for the buck"

G502 is adequate for the average gamer, especially if they are budget conscious but don't want to risk buying something cheaper, which might be plastic trash

[nova steppe]

First thing I though of, lol. I was like, is someone's compressor running with their mic unmuted, or what?

[junior flax]

https://imgur.com/D6gMvkb

gaming laptops

[hexed crystal]

???

thanks intellij

[jovial tide]

Tbh, I'm so comfortable with this mouse that whenever I get the cash, I'm just going to move up to the G502 wireless

[exotic patrol]

💀

[solar jungle]

Opera GX was the worst browser I've ever used in my entire life

[solar jungle]

Viper Mini is a good cheap option, been using it for 2 years

[cold elbow]

502 is not good for someone with small hand which she might have

[snow rover]

or anyone else

[manic ibex]

Yeah 😅

[manic ibex]

I will check that

[solar jungle]

Viper Mini compared to my hand

I got big ass hands

[civic cloud]

Take growth hormones

[nova steppe]

how localised can we make the growth?

asking for a friend, in the name of science, of course.

[civic cloud]

not very

[nova steppe]

sad days.

[civic cloud]

:(

it's ok, size doesn't matter

all mice work the same

no matter if small or big

[solar jungle]

comfort factor kicks in

[civic cloud]

eh, G502 is too small for me

[nova steppe]

I left right before you mentioned mice 😭

[civic cloud]

:3

[thin turtle]

try deathadder a bit wide

oror

get logitech hero something

didn't they say they're cutting life support

[exotic patrol]

6 more months before the ejector seat

[thin turtle]

hello comfy

hru

[exotic patrol]

I'm alr

wbu

[solar jungle]

Yeah I'm planning on getting one

Not anytime soon tho

[thin turtle]

doing good thanks

[thin turtle]

how did you end up with a viper

isn't the deathadder the cheapest

[solar jungle]

Viper Mini (Wired) is the cheapest

[thin turtle]

how much

[solar jungle]

Lemme see

Wait

[solar jungle]

$20

It was on sale

[thin turtle]

I see

deathadder will be 34

essential

[solar jungle]

Well, I'm planning on getting an Asus' TUF, So I might get an Asus ROG mouse

[thin turtle]

my deathadder will make 130AED

[solar jungle]

Not bad

[thin turtle]

noice

as long as you'll use it for 5 years to come

damn got scammed

[solar jungle]

Seeing my current shitbox, it will be a huge upgrade for me

I accidentally leaked my address in that screenshot 💀

[solar jungle]

Ryzen 7

RTX 4060

4060 is great for a laptop

[thin turtle]

this a desktop or

[solar jungle]

Laptop

TUF A15

[thin turtle]

ah

the 4060 is on full power or undervolted

[solar jungle]

God damn it's on sale

And only 2 left in stock

😭

[solar jungle]

It's a laptop GPU, what do you think?

[thin turtle]

well it's a 4060 afterall

very efficient

[solar jungle]

Yeah, also a huge upgrade from my Quadro P600 mobile 💀

[thin turtle]

if you have plenty of room I suggest you get a desktop

should be cheap in uae

[solar jungle]

Man

I want portability

[thin turtle]

hm

[solar jungle]

That requirement is in top of my list

[thin turtle]

fair enough

if you already have a spare laptop I suggest getting a desktop for gaming or prolonged work sessions
this is what I did

my laptop is now juss used for light tasks like pdf or reading

but depends on your situation tbh

[solar jungle]

Well, I'll definitely ditch this POS when I get a new laptop, so....I'm planning on doing both gaming and work on it

because the battery on this thing is terrible

[thin turtle]

fair

[solar jungle]

and on battery the performance is worse than a Samsung's Galaxy S1

[thin turtle]

I have an old but nice toshiba with touch screen and all

too fancy 🤣

[solar jungle]

nice lol

mine is a Dell mobile workstation

came out in like 2019?

[thin turtle]

the random touch screen flex is really funny