tech-coding-math

[lilac heath]

This just means that games in future are gonna be even more vram intensive 💀

[cold elbow]

It's like an apu with 4070 performance

[thin turtle]

oh my

[cold elbow]

On a freaking smol laptop

[thin turtle]

how are the thermals doing

[cold elbow]

Great

[lilac heath]

[thin turtle]

[void turret]

Why not?

[cold elbow]

Otherwise they would not put it in a small laptop

[thin turtle]

I still want a beefy dedicated graphics card

I want to pay extra electric bills

[cold elbow]

To be honest
Having a shared memory that is fast and very close to the chip is way more efficient

This is how apple is doing crazy numbers

[lilac heath]

Will also work as a heater in winters

[thin turtle]

apple use a different technology

ARM or something

[cold elbow]

Not really

The concept is similar

System on a chip

They have memory even closer which is in the chip itself

[thin turtle]

yeah

[fresh aspen]

buying a pc for 1k should i build it or buy it prebuild

[thin turtle]

if it's prebuilt for free might be wiser

[cold elbow]

Are you ok with learning how to build your own?

[fresh aspen]

im getting into tech

[cold elbow]

Or if you have someone to build it

[fresh aspen]

so yea

my friend

[cold elbow]

Then build your own

[thin turtle]

yeah

[fresh aspen]

ok

[thin turtle]

I believe in you

[fresh aspen]

u guys got any specs?

[fresh aspen]

ty

[lilac heath]

[thin turtle]

truly a moment

[thin turtle]

generally don't get an outdated motherboard

[fresh aspen]

i wanted a b550 with a r7 5700x3d

[thin turtle]

see

am4

[fresh aspen]

is it bad?

[thin turtle]

no

but old

[fresh aspen]

ahh

i heard this cpu is good

[lilac heath]

It is

[thin turtle]

look for am5 socket motherboards

[fresh aspen]

ok and a cpu am5

[thin turtle]

aren't they backward compatible?

[cold elbow]

The current standard cpu is probably the 7600

[fresh aspen]

are they bc chat gpt said no

[thin turtle]

ah

b650 are am5

shouldn't be as much of an increase in price

[fresh aspen]

like 40-60

but does the b650 work with r7 5700x3d tho

[lost fossil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/904101912201277452/1348628422863360150/vinyl.gif

[cold elbow]

No

[fresh aspen]

ah ok

[lost fossil]

b550 for 5700x3d
b650 for 7600

[cold elbow]

U have to get 7600

[fresh aspen]

ok

[thin turtle]

is intel gonna release a new socket

they are set to launch 1.8nm cpus

[lost fossil]

is intel not gonna release a new socket

[fresh aspen]

should i go with intel or ryzen

[lost fossil]

it's intel ofc they are gonna release a new socket

[thin turtle]

ryzen

[fresh aspen]

i use it for like gta v and cs2

[lost fossil]

shkonka
cs2

[thin turtle]

national game 🇷🇺

[fresh aspen]

guees where im the from

[thin turtle]

Bulgaria

[fresh aspen]

close

[lost fossil]

not too bad

[fresh aspen]

in euro how much is this

[thin turtle]

Belarus

[fresh aspen]

far im in balkan'

[thin turtle]

soviet onion

[thin turtle]

croatia

[fresh aspen]

it stars with A

[lost fossil]

damn i read that username and assume 🇷🇺

[thin turtle]

albania

[fresh aspen]

it mean eat my dick in albanbian

[thin turtle]

:wearybread:

[lost fossil]

oh so that's where that word originates from then, i suppose

[fresh aspen]

[lilac heath]

[thin turtle]

I'm very excited for intel and microsoft cpus

[lost fossil]

mike inel makes good animations indeed

[thin turtle]

tru

I'd be dead before we see Microsoft quantum processor

but here's hoping

mane core ultra has 3nm while ryzen 7 is 4nm

intel still managed to fumble

[civic cloud]

They already have em wdym

[lost fossil]

from amd

[thin turtle]

I don't think it's functional

just works on theory

[civic cloud]

Is functional for very specific use cases

[thin turtle]

[thin turtle]

yeah the idea is to enter the consumer market

or at least the business market

[cold elbow]

Microsoft CPUs

[snow rover]

because playing on ultra anything in general is almost always dumb

[thin turtle]

well they made it

[snow rover]

and especially so if you're limited to 1080p

spend 15 minutes optimizing settings and you can probably double performance with very minor if any visual change

[thin turtle]

fpsmaxxing in a story game 😩

I understand now

[void turret]

So ultra on 1440p is the way?

[snow rover]

ultra is never the way unless you have massive headroom and even then it's proabably pointless

[lost fossil]

fpsmaxxing then limiting to 60 to save on power bills

[snow rover]

high preset and then some manual optimization is my preferred way

[void turret]

Ok, just learning these things 😄

[thin turtle]

imo 80 fps is the sweet spot

for pve/story

[void turret]

What size monitors you guys have? And 1080 or 1440?

[fickle finch]

1440

[sterile cliff]

Im on laptop

1080p for me

[fickle finch]

I want a 2nd monitor

[civic cloud]

27" 165Hz 🤝 1440p

[sterile cliff]

I use 2 monitors at my job hahah

[civic cloud]

Get one, it's so nice

[sterile cliff]

Mostly the 2nd monitor is to monitor some devices

[fickle finch]

Lol

[fickle finch]

Will it affect my refresh rate in some way

[thin turtle]

24" 1080p 180hz

[sterile cliff]

Nah both monitors are seperate

[fickle finch]

Oh

[void turret]

Not to smol?

[sterile cliff]

Say you have a 144hz monitor

And u wanna get another monitor

[thin turtle]

not really

[fickle finch]

Yea

[sterile cliff]

U can get a 60hz monitor

And it wont affect much

[fickle finch]

[thin turtle]

once you sit close to it you'll know that more 27" is neck breaking

[twin badger]

1080p, 24 inch

[void turret]

I think my ex has two 24". Good size imo

[thin turtle]

also you should get a small monitor for 1080p

[twin badger]

24 inch is fine if you are sitting relatively close to it

Which i am

[thin turtle]

pixel density and allat

[twin badger]

Yeah, def dont get a 27 inch 1080p

[void turret]

Yeah, I was planning to get 24" 1080 yeah, 160-180hz

[thin turtle]

yep, these are usually more affordable

and good value with these potential frames

100hz and 180hz are about 30 dolla increase here

so worth it

[twin badger]

Prolly gonna be a 1080p pleb for a while

Good enough for me, considering that for a long time i played on a 4:3

And man... that was not great

[thin turtle]

I'm not maxing out mine yet

[twin badger]

What gpu you had again?

[thin turtle]

same I was gaming on 17" laptop

[twin badger]

Thats still 16:9

4:3 on the other hand... square 2005 ass lookin

[civic cloud]

wdym

[thin turtle]

I found a prebuilt pc with an rx580
I bought it for the motherboard and the ddr5 ram

just gon upgrade the gpu

it was a good deal

[twin badger]

[thin turtle]

I'm kinda stuck with intel now

but they say they're good for multitasking and others
very useful to me

[twin badger]

Both amd and intel should be good for that purpose

[thin turtle]

nice

[snow rover]

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/1jinmrl/monitor_alienware_27_360hz_qdoled_gaming_monitor/

man what the fuck

how do i get deals like this

i want 400 dollar oled

[thin turtle]

bro using all his cards

[lost fossil]

but all u can get is a 400 dollar oleg

[snow rover]

how get oleg

[lost fossil]

[snow rover]

no

[thin turtle]

scam

[toxic sentinel]

While in Europe we probably have to pay at least 1000€ for Oled monitor

[snow rover]

right

[jovial tide]

I actually run Intel myself, despite the issues people warned me about, I've ran into none and it works amazing for editing and or rendering stuff if that's your thing

[lost fossil]

https://youtu.be/n_M--PeQ11Q?t=96

[snow rover]

cheapest oled has been around 600 for the aoc model or samsung g60sd

usually everything is around 1k

[thin turtle]

which cpu

[jovial tide]

i9-13900F

[thin turtle]

nice

what cooling solution you use?

[jovial tide]

Not sure, but it's an AIO

[thin turtle]

niice

I wanna get a 14700k too

[jovial tide]

Temps stay around the 60s (C)

[thin turtle]

just worried about the cooling
people say air cooling is sufficient

[fickle finch]

anyone in chat with liquid cooling?

[thin turtle]

AIO is liquid iirc

All In One

[fickle finch]

oh

is it like normal liquid? do you need to replace the liquid?

[jovial tide]

Not too familiar with air cooling, I just like my stuff to be quiet while I'm doing things, so I always just opt for AIO (not saying air cooling can't be quiet, just from personal experience)

[fickle finch]

Liquid cooling is quiet

[thin turtle]

kinda like a car coolant

[fickle finch]

oh

[snow rover]

no, an AIO is a closed loop

[thin turtle]

I see

[fickle finch]

whats the difference between closed and open loop

I dont get it

[snow rover]

a closed loop has no entrance or exit for the liquid

it's filled at the factory and you cannot open it non-destructively

[fickle finch]

I see

[snow rover]

well some coolers you can disassemble by taking the cold plate off but it isn't meant to be user serviceable

[fickle finch]

What about open loop

[thin turtle]

quite the contrary

[snow rover]

typically you have a water reservoir combined with the pump that can be opened

[lost fossil]

open loop

closed loop

[fickle finch]

😮

[lost fossil]

🆚

[fickle finch]

lol

[jovial tide]

One requires servicing every X amount of years, the other (being the closed loop) required getting rid of and buying again

[fickle finch]

closed loop sounds more expensive

or is servicing an open loop more costly

[jovial tide]

Depends, though in my now server PC, I've had this cooler wayyy longer than it's supposed to last lmao

[fickle finch]

wow so it lasted long

[jovial tide]

There's a general length they list it will last for, this one I think was....6 years? it's lasted me 8 rn

[fickle finch]

I was going to get a ryzen 7 and it'd have liquid cooling but I opted for Ryzen 5 which didnt require

[lost fossil]

neither does ryzen 7

[fickle finch]

what brand?

[lost fossil]

it's just good to have sometimes

[fickle finch]

ryzen generates alot of heat thats the thing no?

[thin turtle]

6 years is enough time to get anotha one

[jovial tide]

Assuming you mean me It's a Corsair H100i Pro

[lost fossil]

the issue is that their dies are tiny so there's very little surface area to dissipate the heat, that's why they're hot

[jovial tide]

Yeah, and if you take care of it like I do (don't be a dumbass and set your iCue cooler to extreme) it will last you a long time

[fickle finch]

dies?

[lost fossil]

dies

plural of die

[fickle finch]

oh

[lost fossil]

A die, in the context of integrated circuits, is a small block of semiconducting material on which a given functional circuit is fabricated. Typically, integrated circuits are produced in large batches on a single wafer of electronic-grade silicon (EGS) or other semiconductor (such as GaAs) through processes such as photolithography. The wafer is cut (diced) into many pieces, each containing one copy of the circuit. Each of these pieces is called a die.

[fickle finch]

I see thanks for the detailed explanation

[lost fossil]

i stole that from the internet

[fickle finch]

Still good choice of text lol

So it isn't like a core

[void turret]

Open loop 👌🏻
Closed gives same kind of vibes than bad cable management

[void turret]

So 7800 XT is better and also cheaper than 4070?

[cold elbow]

Closed loops are cheap af
Open loops are for rich people that just wanna spend 3k to get a potential 3% performance gain

[civic cloud]

Hello it is me, rich people

[fickle finch]

[thin turtle]

4070s don't exist no?

only super and ti super

[cold elbow]

U finally admitted it

[fickle finch]

gus is funny 🤭

[civic cloud]

No I'm just continuing your joke

[thin turtle]

it's always like this
Nvidia release an expensive card
AMD release a better one
Nvidia make a super variant to compensate

that's why we never saw a 4090 super

no need for it

no competition

so yeah
4070 super has better value than 4070
4080 super has better value than the 4080

[cold elbow]

We saw 3090 ti

[thin turtle]

hell 4080 super is cheaper even

[cold elbow]

Because nvidia needed an excuse to charge even more money for their mining cards

[thin turtle]

probably because of the 6900xt aswell

[cold elbow]

Most based card

[thin turtle]

[lilac heath]

[thin turtle]

they're extinct

[lilac heath]

7800xt is around 7% faster than 4070

[thin turtle]

barely on second hand market

[void turret]

7800 XT is 550€ and 4070 is 640€

[thin turtle]

ye

[void turret]

4070 Super 670€

[thin turtle]

if you're about gaming then get amd

everywhere

[void turret]

Yes sir

[thin turtle]

cpu gpu

[void turret]

Gaming is my priority

[thin turtle]

team red then

7800xt is a 1440p card though

you'd probably be better off with a 7700xt for 1080p and a bit of 1440p

[cold elbow]

Or find a used 6800 xt

[thin turtle]

tru

[void turret]

Hmm

[thin turtle]

the money you'd save can go to other components

like a high refresh monitor

[cold elbow]

No

A lot of rgb

[thin turtle]

y

[cold elbow]

RGB

[thin turtle]

lgbt lights

[cold elbow]

RGB chair

RGB mousepad

[thin turtle]

I'll get rid of the rgb on my case

looks cheap

[cold elbow]

-30FPS

[thin turtle]

[snow rover]

rgb mousepads are so fucking stupid

uncomfortable raised edges, extra cable that just looks wacky, can't really wash it

[cold elbow]

Nah

But these are stupid

[snow rover]

i agree

[void turret]

Never

[fickle finch]

your keyboard has a kensington lock?

[civic arch]

beamng be eating all of my vram

if i had more if would probably use it

traffic eats like all the vram and ram

[civic arch]

aint those cables expensive af

[lost fossil]

ass cable

[exotic patrol]

abominable cable

[void turret]

Hmm

[astral shard]

im getting a error saying unable to launch game, please try reinstalling the game. How do I fix that?

[lost fossil]

have you tried reinstalling the game?

[nova steppe]

it's just an overdone, overpriced USB cable, my guy

[fickle finch]

oh lol

[astral shard]

yes.?/

[sterile cliff]

Low fps gamers rise up

[junior flax]

beamng was the reason i got 32gb of ram

[civic arch]

and then you still get a low ram warning

[snow rover]

what do you do with beam traffic

[civic arch]

it feels less dead and empty to drive around

idk makes it more fun

[snow rover]

you just drive around?

[cold elbow]

you make these silly videos of crashing your cars into two billion potholes

[void turret]

"what car has the longest jump?" 🙈

[civic arch]

skibidi car is in there too

[rapid lake]

2 meter braided cable mhm yes

[civic arch]

dababy car is my personal favourite

[rapid lake]

Charging speed’s gonna suffer but idc

Durable and l o n g

[cold elbow]

slow charging speed is better for your battery anyway

[rapid lake]

That’s all I care about

[rapid lake]

True that, I’m in no rush anyways

[cold elbow]

THOOOO

[exotic patrol]

what will you use the cable for

[cold elbow]

if you fast charge with that you wont lose a lot in longer distance

[rapid lake]

Charge my phone, duh

[cold elbow]

because you are charging with higher voltage

[civic arch]

fast chargin is what voltage

[cold elbow]

higher than 5

[civic arch]

my brick says 5v-20v output

[rapid lake]

I think iphone is very limited in terms of fast charging anyways

[exotic patrol]

well if it's USB A it generally isn't more than 15w

[thin turtle]

25-30 watt

[rapid lake]

Bur my adapter is 15 watts

So

[civic arch]

my brick does 67w

[thin turtle]

well

[cold elbow]

there are 9 and 12 and 20 V

[civic arch]

thats power not voltage

[rapid lake]

It’s the old iPhone brick

[exotic patrol]

ye you're fine

[thin turtle]

that's the point

[exotic patrol]

go enjoy

[rapid lake]

The square looking one

For me it charges fast enough

[civic arch]

my battery life is still fine even with 67w fast charging

its been more than 3 years

[rapid lake]

I don’t see the appeal for those charge in 10 minutes chinese phones ngl

[thin turtle]

there's no fast charge voltage

only wattage

or current

[civic arch]

fast charge also changes the voltage

[cold elbow]

what

[exotic patrol]

how much do you use your phone though that's the question

[civic arch]

and current

[thin turtle]

voltage is kept low

[civic arch]

charge it everyday to full

[thin turtle]

power

[civic arch]

in the morning

[cold elbow]

fast charging is only possible by raising voltage

[exotic patrol]

then that explains why

[thin turtle]

nuh uh

[cold elbow]

yes

[civic arch]

takes like 15-20 mins and im back to 100%

[cold elbow]

just look at your brick

[rapid lake]

Nah just pull 10 amps bro ezpz

[thin turtle]

alr

[civic arch]

power cant increase if voltage or current does not change tho

[rapid lake]

10x5 volts there you go 50 watts

[thin turtle]

riyal

[cold elbow]

pulling a lot of current on low voltage requires a thicker wires and you will face more resistance

[civic arch]

i do think fast charging gives 20v

[cold elbow]

depends on your level of fast charging

[rapid lake]

Most bricks I’ve seen are like 2-2.4 amps

So for 70w you’d need at least 35 volts

[thin turtle]

says 9V 2.77A 25W

[civic arch]

idk what xiaomi has but its 20v output

[thin turtle]

ur right

[cold elbow]

2x5V = 10 watts
2x9V = 18 watt

same current

more watts

[civic arch]

its a miracle the original cable and brick still work

[cold elbow]

cus voltage

[rapid lake]

Maths

[civic arch]

usually those cables just decay

[snow rover]

i just use some old ass 5v 1a brick for my phone

it's fine enough

[thin turtle]

current should go down realistically

[void turret]

What phone?

[exotic patrol]

same one with the random ugreen cable?

[civic arch]

xiaomi 11t

[snow rover]

i don't have ugreen cables

[rapid lake]

Ngl I bought a 2 meter lightning to usb cable for $2 and it lasted for a whole year, brand was denim or smth like that

[civic arch]

decent battery life

[snow rover]

at least i don't think

[exotic patrol]

you used to have one I think

[thin turtle]

using the uh maximum power transfer principle

[void turret]

OnePlus 10T. 10mins from 50 to 100%

[snow rover]

i have an ugreen power adapter but now it just lives in my backpack

[thin turtle]

and transformer laws

[civic arch]

66w charger ?

[thin turtle]

there's a sweet spot

[void turret]

160w

[civic arch]

what size is the battery

11t has 5000mah

[void turret]

4800mah

[thin turtle]

how come

thicker is less

longer is more

resistance

[civic arch]

holy hell 10 amps charger

[thin turtle]

phone is cooked

[cold elbow]

have you seen car cables?

they are thicccc cus 12 volts

[thin turtle]

yea

[thin turtle]

no

[cold elbow]

meanwhile your house wires are not that thick and can carry more watts

[civic arch]

only the battery wires are that thicc

[cold elbow]

because 220V

[thin turtle]

because 50A

[thin turtle]

oh yea I get it

thought you were saying smthn else

[cold elbow]

its the voltage triangle

[civic arch]

how much does extra meter even add

resistance

[thin turtle]

look it up

[cold elbow]

depends on the voltage

[thin turtle]

depends on the material

and thickness

[civic arch]

higher voltage less voltage loss ?

or its a smaller %

[thin turtle]

the reason why power cables are high voltage and low current is because of this

[cold elbow]

the higher the voltage the less resitance you get

[civic arch]

oh yeah

[thin turtle]

the longer it gets the more heat loss

[thin turtle]

no

cable resistance is constant

[cold elbow]

ever wondered why these bad boys carry power with voltage in the thousands? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c1/Anchor_tower_of_overhead_power_line.jpg

[snow rover]

no because i have been in middle school physics lessons

[thin turtle]

yeah because it's more efficient to carry high voltage than high current

[exotic patrol]

I like how this turned into an electricity debate

[lost fossil]

i never looked it up and always assumed it was to keep the current low

[cold elbow]

https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/dcp3.gif?fit=193%2C156 this says you are wrong

wtf no embed

ohwait

[exotic patrol]

It just embedded

[thin turtle]

this is different

you use this for parameters as input resistance or output resistance

[cold elbow]

current low means less resistance
which means you can use smol cable diameter

[lost fossil]

yes i know

it's why i assumed that

[thin turtle]

omg

[lost fossil]

imagine 500 megawatt at 12v

[thin turtle]

less current means less heat

not less resistance

[civic arch]

aint less heat also less resistance

[thin turtle]

no

[cold elbow]

duddde

how electric heaters work?

[thin turtle]

resistance is constant

[thin turtle]

they wont work with small current

[lost fossil]

lower temp - atoms don't move around as much - need more force to get them moving - resistance increases

no?

[civic arch]

no

[lost fossil]

git it then

[civic arch]

apparently copper and aluminum do conduct better if they are hotter

[thin turtle]

the relation between the temperature and resistance depends on conductivity

[lost fossil]

banned for poor conduct

[thin turtle]

conductive materials such as metals experience more resistance as heat increase

while semi conductors are the opposite

but

this doesn't change the fact that in operation, the current is controlling heat

[civic arch]

no cat aint drinking

[thin turtle]

real

[mystic solar]

damm that’s a big update thou

[snow rover]

not that long ago apple was still selling phones with 16gb storage

[mystic solar]

Lmao literally

[mystic solar]

My OS currently consumes 18GB of storage

Good thing I have the most storage

[sterile cliff]

7.65 gigs

For a beta

Thas wild

[mellow steppe]

Anyone could recogmend me a hdd (preferrably old retro) that does that iconic grinding sound when pc is powered on? (for context, im building a retro inspired build, and i wanna capture sounds too)

[snow rover]

seagate cheetah

[mellow steppe]

Thank you. Onto my list with that then -w-

might even get those old trays for it too xD

[lost fossil]

try adding a dirt cheap optical disc drive

[mellow steppe]

which one sounds more authentic.. hmmm

[lost fossil]

i mean it doesn't sound quite right but it adds to the experience

[mellow steppe]

cus the thing is, i will also make windows 10 look like windows 98

and swap out sound files with windows 98 if i can

[mellow steppe]

My list for now (checkmark means i already have those parts):

CPU: I7 6700 ✅
GPU: GTX 1650
Fans: 3 pieces ✅
Liquid cooling: Included
Ram: 48 gb ✅
PSU: EVGA 500 W1
SSD for speed, old HDD for the classic revving sound

All this in a classic 90s tower case since those were big, and i need the extra space

everything else:
Keyboard: BTC-5339 (rare mechanical variant) ✅
Mouse: HP optical mouse (retro looks, modern functionality)
Monitor: Checkmate A1500 Plus monitor (retro looks, but not crt so it doesnt fucks up my eyes)

[brave field]

get a mobo speaker for the POST beep

[mellow steppe]

noted

[lost fossil]

Ram: 48 gb
i remember getting bsods when having 3x4gb despite all 3 being perfectly fine

i wouldn't do 48, especially for a retro(-inspired?) pc, that's just too much

[mellow steppe]

i would have 2 16gb, and 2 8gb

[snow rover]

stop

[mellow steppe]

retro look, but internals are basicly do everything all around okay.

already got 32 gb ram but if 48 is overkill then i guess -w-

[civic cloud]

My first pc had that :)

[mellow steppe]

i just wanna make sure i dont have to upgrade for a while.

[civic cloud]

"no upgrade for a while" and you get a 1650 and 6700?

[lost fossil]

at least it's an octathread

[brave field]

actual retro PC, or just a retro look?

[mellow steppe]

look, i was rocking with a 2600 and a gtx 550 ti for like 7 years lol

[mellow steppe]

some parts retro, but insides are mainly modern

[brave field]

Definitely pass on the 1650 unless its free

Its a trap, like the 1050ti was. Horrendous value for what you're getting

[mellow steppe]

any better optiosn then perhabs?

[snow rover]

like literally anything else

do you have specific constraints you have to work around

[brave field]

An RX 580 struggles with modern games but outperforms the 1650 significantly and costs probably a fourth on the used market

[mellow steppe]

wont hurt my wallet too much xD

like.. im willint to dish out a fair sum but nothing overly crazy

[thin turtle]

can confirm

[brave field]

If you're buying in new condition, don't go below the 3060 and equivalents. The prices just aren't justified

[thin turtle]

this thing can crash windows if you let it

[mellow steppe]

Well i just need something that can handle itself okay. I dont need a powerhouse.

something mid-range stuff i guess

[mellow steppe]

its that bad? Damn..

[thin turtle]

hey if you can get a h610m mobo and i3-12100f

[brave field]

I just went from a 580 to a 7600 last month. Its ridiculous how heavy new games are compared to just a few years ago

[thin turtle]

not bad if you know what you're doing

[thin turtle]

w

[brave field]

I couldn't keep tolerating how terrible games with forced TAA look below 1080p

[mellow steppe]

i dont really play modern AAA titles so

[thin turtle]

the 8GB?

[brave field]

8gb yes, both

[thin turtle]

hmm

[brave field]

I don't play many AAA games either

[lost fossil]

one of these

[brave field]

Its just the few you do are a struggle because you're forced to use TAA or FSR and anything below ~1260p internal resolution just becomes a ghosty and blurred mess

[thin turtle]

look @mellow steppe the rx580 isn't all bad

just outdated

if you learn some tweaks you'll be alright

[thin turtle]

did you look for a 6700 10GB?

or 6700xt

about the same price

more suitable than 7600 for 1080p

but ye still a solid pick

just speaking price

[brave field]

I did

the used market was horrible

I was originally aiming for a 3070

but since September, ebay prices for them had been climbing rapidly

I missed an auction at $235 and by the time I purchased, they were selling at $330

pretty infuriating, 8 years since pascal should put 3070 level performance around $250 at NEW pricing. But RX 7000 and RTX 40 budget options were stagnant

[mellow steppe]

Will look into that one then. Hopefully the 500 watt psu will be enough to handle that. I just read its a bit power hungry -w-

[mellow steppe]

not gonna lie, thats fine with me. As said, i been using a gtx 550 ti for 7 years lol

[brave field]

an RX 6600 might fit the same price bracket as the 1650 you were looking for

[thin turtle]

istg the benchmark websites are straight up bullshit
one shows two cards to be identical and the other shows 50% gap

typed 3070 vs 7600 and was blown away by the inconsistency

[thin turtle]

yeah should be good enough

[brave field]

userbenchmark is fake if that's one that came up

techpowerup isn't perfect but its relative performance is at least based in some form of testing

[thin turtle]

youtube is the best benchmarker

[mellow steppe]

alright, thanks. Im gonna take a look at both the 580 and the 6600 too.

[manic ibex]

6600 better because bigger number

[brave field]

bit less than twice as performant, nice little card

[nova steppe]

you can

[agile siren]

Is there any way to run a windows command line application with admin privileges before a user account log in?

[nova steppe]

[thin turtle]

vro onto something

[exotic patrol]

If you make it a shell startup or maybe a custom driver that calls it in

maybe autoruns or task scheduler

I don't think scheduler runs pre login though

[void turret]

Why selecting a pc case is so difficult

[civic cloud]

It isn't, just pick the one that you think looks best

(fractal north)

[thin turtle]

get something medium

fits like 6 or more fans

mine fits 8

[void turret]

Arent 5 enough? 3 out, 2 in

[thin turtle]

depends

some cases come with stock fans

mine has 4

[void turret]

Yeah, some cases has 3

[thin turtle]

and there's room for 4 more

also when fitting fans you wanna make sure intake is more than exhaust

3in 2out

[void turret]

Really?

[thin turtle]

helps keeping dust out

[void turret]

I thought its opposite

[thin turtle]

it might be counterintuitive

what I wanna add now is a 360mm AIO

it will come with 3 fans

so I will just get 1 extra fan

I'll fit it in front

[void turret]

With your present build?

[cold elbow]

Only when your intake is filtered

[thin turtle]

like this

[thin turtle]

no when I'm ready to upgrade

[cold elbow]

This is a bad configuration

[thin turtle]

y

[cold elbow]

It can workout but like

Aio is better on the top

[thin turtle]

doesn't fit

280mm gab

[cold elbow]

Get a 240

[thin turtle]

is it ok for a 14700k?

[cold elbow]

If you pick the right cooler

[thin turtle]

hmm

[cold elbow]

And if you can fit a 280 then better

[thin turtle]

I'm not sure about that

manufacturer say 240 on top

360 in front

[cold elbow]

U don't have a choice then

Go front aio

And toast your gpu

[thin turtle]

😭

I thought about that

[void turret]

Dont you love the smell of a toasted gpu?

[thin turtle]

need to try it first

[cold elbow]

And idk why u went for 14700k in the first place

[thin turtle]

I have intel mobo

kinda stuck

[cold elbow]

U found it in a trash bin?

[thin turtle]

yeah

want some?

[cold elbow]

That makes sense then

Nah

Im good with amd

[thin turtle]

alr

[cold elbow]

Aio fans doesn't even spin most of the time

[void turret]

What case you have Melly?

[cold elbow]

Lancool ii mesh

[thin turtle]

I'll get big top exhaust fans

[cold elbow]

Wont do much tbh

[thin turtle]

[void turret]

Looks better than lumbago's 🤭

[cold elbow]

It's like

One of the best cases when it comes to cooling

And has lot of cool mechanical features and cheap

[thin turtle]

you make me worry

[cold elbow]

@thin turtle when u build your pc just use a software called FanSpeed and experiment with it

[thin turtle]

can't I adjust that from bios anway?

[cold elbow]

With enough time you will make it cool and quiet

Fancontrol is million times better

[thin turtle]

alr

but I can keep fans spinning from bios right? so they don't pause

[cold elbow]

Cool thing that it can detect all temperatures sensors and all fans so you can create fan curves based on cpu or gpu orrrrr (( both ))

[thin turtle]

nice

I'll keep it in mind

[cold elbow]

Why would u want that

Most of my fans are off while the pc is idling

[thin turtle]

why

[cold elbow]

THIS IS HOW U KEEP IT DUST FREE

and dead silent

[thin turtle]

[cold elbow]

If your temperature are low with fans off then why spin them?

Just keep one instake and one exhaust spinning slow

[void turret]

Do you do this manually or is it automated?

[cold elbow]

Automated by FanControl

[civic cloud]

Each fan gets powered by a little hamster

[agile siren]

with admin privilages?

what about a system service?

dose that run pre-login?

[civic cloud]

hi ajay

[agile siren]

and i think system services run with admin privilages, right?

[agile siren]

hi Gauss

[civic cloud]

Do the thing Ajay

It's been years

[agile siren]

-_-

server mods hates Gifs. -_-

[void turret]

[civic cloud]

You deserve this

YEARS!!!

[civic cloud]

Hater

You would never block me

[agile siren]

[lost fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/osaka-live-reaction-azumanga-azumanga-daioh-gif-25238398

[civic arch]

trigger is so good

use it on all my fans

wish it worked on my gpu too

0 rpm mode kinda fucks it up

[thin turtle]

will it work on my ceiling fan?

[void turret]

Damn, full speed

[thin turtle]

yeah I used the software

[void turret]

Cool

[void turret]

I saw a build recommendation with 7800 XT and "prepardness for 1440p"
Same budget than I have 🤔

Is there sense to get it if not planning to get 1440p monitor?

[thin turtle]

you can get it later on

if it was a good deal, why miss it?

make sure nothing is broken

[void turret]

Its new

[thin turtle]

if it is a good deal, go for it

[void turret]

Hmm. 7700 XT and 7800 XT are same price 🤔

[thin turtle]

I'd say get the better card

with all precautions

[civic arch]

7800xt then

it dont mattee if its slightly overpowered

better to have performance to spare

[void turret]

Yeah, true

[thin turtle]

I wanna see you running Cyberpunk on high settings

[void turret]

Not sure I'll play that

[thin turtle]

it's a tradition

[void turret]

What your opinion about 7600 XT ? 185€ cheaper than 7800 XT

[thin turtle]

good for 1080p

I suggest you check benchmarks on youtube often

[sterile cliff]

4k max settings raytracing set to max

[thin turtle]

no chance

[sterile cliff]

That right there is how u can turn ur pc into a nuclear bomb

[void turret]

Do you know are these results reliable?

https://pc-builds.com/fps-calculator/result/1t61hl/4w/grand-theft-auto-v/1920x1080

Or bottleneck calculator

[thin turtle]

seems like they're underplaying the card ngl

if the rx580 gets to 90fps average on ultra the 7700xt should hit 200+

[sterile cliff]

For gta 5 the limit is like 180 fps anyway

Since it shits itself beyond that

[thin turtle]

ah makes sense

[sterile cliff]

Best to keep gta 5 running at like 160 165

Smth like that

That was for the legacy one anyway

Dont know if enhanced is any different

[thin turtle]

these are not reliable

[void turret]

Ok 🤔

[thin turtle]

most of them are bullshit

[sterile cliff]

And probably outdated

Just search some yt videos running ur exact specs

[thin turtle]

yeah good idea

[sterile cliff]

U can get a decent idea from there

[void turret]

Yeah, makes sense. I'm still waiting a reply to my offer request 😩

[rapid lake]

@lost fossil @cold elbow is palit a reliable gpu brand

And is 90 bucks for a 1660ti a good price

Used but still in the box, no visible rust or damage

[lost fossil]

yes

although there is a meme in 🇷🇺 that translates to palit will burn down your house

but they're legit and good tho

as for the other question idrk but on the surface level it doesn't seem like a good deal

[civic cloud]

Buying a 1660ti in 2025 isn't a good deal

[lost fossil]

yeah what pepegauss said

[cold elbow]

Yes

But 90 bucks

They're not rich like you pepegauss

[civic cloud]

Am not rich

[cold elbow]

#tech-coding-math message

[civic cloud]

Fake news

Photoshop

[rapid lake]

Right but is it worth 90 bucks

[civic arch]

ryzen 5 7500f my beloved

really good silicon in some batches

shitty fps calculation tho

[quartz kayak]

Get a 2060 like mine i heard they are cheap and they have ray tracing

[civic arch]

vram is kinda lacking for some games

[rapid lake]

My lil bro insists he wants a 1660ti and he just has 100 bucks

[civic arch]

control i had a issue where textures would not load

out of vram

[rapid lake]

I told him to save up and get a 30 series that’ll last him for years more

[rapid lake]

Vram lacking is not my issue when I’m running a gt640 rn lmao

[civic arch]

dont let him get a 1660ti

do they still sell those brand new

[rapid lake]

But the whole pc is really outdated

My opinion is to just deal with it for now until I can get us a decent PC for $4-500

[quartz kayak]

I main a 2060 and i dont really have any shortcomings

6gb vram

🤏🏻

Veri shmol

[rapid lake]

What’s a good deal on a used 2060

[quartz kayak]

A 1660ti isnt a bad card. Its a pretty good card for a 400€ "build"

[rapid lake]

And what sorta performance should I expect with an i7 7700 paired with it

[rapid lake]

400 builds here have 2060 supers

[quartz kayak]

More than 100€

[rapid lake]

And less than

150?

[quartz kayak]

Yes

Around that ballpark

[rapid lake]

What should I check for when getting used

Found an msi one for 140

2070 gigabyte for 150

1080 from zotac for 100

[quartz kayak]

Well you should check if it works first of all ofc. Ask if it has alot of time.

Its all pretty basic things when it comes to components.

[rapid lake]

Right

[quartz kayak]

You could find cheaper

Ur from the us right?

[rapid lake]

No

[quartz kayak]

Europe?

Sorry i forgot its been awhile

Sob

[rapid lake]

Lol

Lebanon

You’ve probably never heard of it

[quartz kayak]

The continent man im pretty dumb

😭😭

[rapid lake]

Asia

[quartz kayak]

You should get them cheaper there

[rapid lake]

eh

There’s import costs for sellers and all that shit

[quartz kayak]

Wtf

Go to a used market or something

Dont you have like olx

[rapid lake]

I’m on fb marketplace mf

That’s where everything is

[quartz kayak]

Well look for something closer man

[rapid lake]

2070 for 150 is a good deal no?

[quartz kayak]

Shipping is normal but having alot to pay for it is silly

Yes

[rapid lake]

That’s not what I meant

[quartz kayak]

A 2060 for 120 is also a good deal

140 is too much

[rapid lake]

They’re more expensive here

Because to get them in it’s expensive

[quartz kayak]

Hmm

OH I REMEMBER NOW

[rapid lake]

I don’t mean I have to import it myself

There’s also a 1080ti for 135

[quartz kayak]

Wtf

Scam

I would recomend you buy a 2 series card so it has more updates and they have rtx. For like 20 euro more (in my case)

[rapid lake]

Well

Let me see if 20 series works on this old ahh mobo first

[quartz kayak]

Old?

I need more lore

Wtf

[rapid lake]

Yes

H110MH Pro D4

I don’t know if you’ll find it on googa

[quartz kayak]

Very budged bord

[quartz kayak]

What other components do you have

[rapid lake]

i7 7700

500gb ssd from kingston

16gb ram

I didn’t build this btw it was given to me, if you remember it didn’t boot into windows and then it fixed itself

I think the 2060 should work

[quartz kayak]

Yeah a 2060 would be like the best option honestly, its compatible aswell

[rapid lake]

So - wait for a better deal or get the 2070?

[quartz kayak]

If you get one under 130 that is in good condition its already a good catch

[rapid lake]

Also won’t the cpu be too slow

For the gpu

[quartz kayak]

A 2070 is kinda overkill. You may have bottlenecks playing cpu based games. But it could be an early upgrade if you get what i mean

[rapid lake]

Or is that not a thing

[quartz kayak]

A 2060 is more on par with that cpui think it would be a good match

But if u want to get a 2070 it would be better ofc since if you upgrade the cpu then it will be a better machine in the end

[rapid lake]

I’m a plug and play sort of person when it comes to pcs

I rather throw this out and get a prebuilt

But yeah I’ll look into a 2060

I’m not looking at upgrading the cpu anytime soon, when I want to upgrade I’ll migrate the GPU to a prebuilt with more futureproof parts

Especially the mobo

And ram

It’s like 2400mhz max

[quartz kayak]

Ram is fine

16gb nowadays is enough

2400 is kinda stinky i guess

If you upgrade be sure to get 32gb then

[rapid lake]

Also

It’s not dual channel

Just one 16gb stick

[quartz kayak]

It keeps getting worst and worst

[rapid lake]

I’m gonna be using it for 3d modelling later

[quartz kayak]

What program?

[rapid lake]

Later as in a year later

Probably autocad in uni

For work idk if it’ll be a different one

[quartz kayak]

Stinky autocad

[rapid lake]

[quartz kayak]

U ve got a pretty solid base for a pc tho

I wish my throaway pc had a 20 series card

[rapid lake]

Lmao

[lost fossil]

i am offended by what you just said

even though i understand

[rapid lake]

Look

The cpu clips are broken so my bro put it horizontally

Cpu cooler and heatsink I mean

Wtf I didn’t see all that cat hair before flashing

[lost fossil]

molex fans
ketchup and mustard cables
1 stick of ram
half-matx board
fan held with zipties
pcie-slot-cover-tier gpu

budget

[lost fossil]

just because it makes contact doesnt mean it cools well

[rapid lake]

It cools alright

[lost fossil]

look up snowman mt4

[rapid lake]

I put cooler master thermal pasta on it bro trust

It’s a beast

[lost fossil]

just because there is toothpaste doesnt mean it cools well

if you say the clips are broken and so broken that u had to lay it flat

there's zero pressure

[rapid lake]

You ever heard of gravity

[rapid lake]

Looks like it’s about

$25

[void turret]

Why psu is upside down

[rapid lake]

It’s 2 broken

The top ones

Rest are clicked in

[quartz kayak]

They are only that expensive bcs they are the 1080tis, nothing else

[rapid lake]

So I should have a half-cooked cpu

[quartz kayak]

@lost fossil

[lost fossil]

i had to deal with that at work, i took the broken ones out and placed the good ones diagonally

[quartz kayak]

Sorry it didnt ping

Dumb app

[lost fossil]

i am now more offended

[quartz kayak]

Rgb psu is so fire (literally)

[rapid lake]

You think I can remove them?

[lost fossil]

maybe not you but they are removable with some fiddling

[rapid lake]

Skill required, idea discarded

On a serious note, I’ll look into that

I was gonna superglue back the broken bit but of course it got lost

[lost fossil]

[compact sierra]

I'm planning on get a xbox series s this week but I'm not sure which one to get they are the same console but different hard drive storage sizes

But the price is different for the storage size

[junior flax]

do u think youll need 500gb or 1tb of storage

[compact sierra]

I think i will need 1tb of storage considering that games are getting larger

[junior flax]

ok buy the 1tb version

[quartz kayak]

😭

[junior flax]

if you look closely youll realise he answered his own question

[compact sierra]

Thanks

[junior flax]

np

[compact sierra]

I do like that they have an expansion slot allowing for more storage but the expansion drive is expensive

[junior flax]

ye better to just buy it unbuilt

[compact sierra]

The Xbox series s is perfect for my needs since i usually just buy my games digitally instead of going to a game store

[junior flax]

awe

[fickle finch]

What is this emote lmao

[quartz kayak]

Mfw fat

[fickle finch]

Lmao

[rapid lake]

@quartz kayak yo

The 2060 I said was 140

[quartz kayak]

High

[rapid lake]

It’s actually a 206@ super

[quartz kayak]

Thats nice

For 140

[rapid lake]

Is it worth

[quartz kayak]

Whats the vram

[rapid lake]

Uhhh

[quartz kayak]

Well whats the model specifically

[exotic patrol]

red chat

[quartz kayak]

If you can

Hi comfyu

Hru

[rapid lake]

Idk I don’t think it says, I can ask the seller

It’s an msi

[quartz kayak]

Does it have a photo

[rapid lake]

Yes

It’s small

2 fan

[quartz kayak]

Send

Is easier

[rapid lake]

Not home

[quartz kayak]

Wtf

Is the seller in your home

😨😰

Pls be careful

[rapid lake]

Dafuq

I don’t have fb on phone

[exotic patrol]

same

[exotic patrol]

sup

I'm alr

wbu

[quartz kayak]

W

[quartz kayak]

Im ok ty for asking

[rapid lake]

Did you finally get a laptop or smth

[exotic patrol]

not yet

[rapid lake]

Pain

[exotic patrol]

well I technically have an abominable laptop

but I don't count it because it's borderline unusable for any real work

[rapid lake]

Lmao

[blissful gale]

Hahaha?

[lost fossil]

stop right there

you're being trolled

[junior flax]

i know

its just funny to get him to answer his own question

[exotic patrol]

I will hopefully get one in approx 3 months

[hexed crystal]

🤖

[rapid lake]

Nice

You have one in mind?

[void turret]

For gaming or..?

[hexed crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-brain-meme-big-brain-big-brain-meme-big-brain-time-gif-2441110471562975014

[compact sierra]

I usually stay out of this channel

But hey i haven't been to this channel in awhile

I usually spend time in the community channel

[hexed crystal]

i mean a minor price increase for double the storage should be a no brainer

like i would easily jump on that