tech-coding-math

[compact sierra]

it allows the portal to support cloud gaming where you can play games without the actual console

https://www.ign.com/articles/playstation-portal-update-rolling-out-cloud-streaming-beta-with-select-ps5-games-for-ps-plus-premium-members

according to ign the ps portal is going to support cloud streaming

it's in beta stages

provided you have ps plus premium

what this means is that the ps portal once it passes the betta stages this will essentially make it a playstation portable

it's essentially a ps5 portable with cloud gaming

[jovial tide]

Don't you need really good upload for it to even look good? If you're on the go, you'd likely be using mobile data which means slow connection

[civic arch]

why no 10x

i been running 10x scalar and no issues

[sharp coyote]

On am5 its should be fine

It can still cause issues

On am4 its insta degradation

Kill basically

[civic arch]

clocks seem to stay higher when gaming

basically 5.25ghz 100% of the time

idk if there is. way to oc further without setting a static oc

base multiplier oc?

[civic arch]

has it been conrifmed?

i really hope intel gets their gpus in the market

[latent drum]

ofc not

nvidia wont come out and say "we are so stupid yooo"

[civic arch]

i wonder if intel is selling b580 for basically 0€ profit

[latent drum]

intel cards suck

[civic arch]

not really

the b580 seems to be decent for the lower tier gpus

[latent drum]

if you are outside of the US it makes no sense to buy a B580 over a 7600 XT

if you are in the US it makes no sense to buy a B580 over a 7600 XT unless you are desperate for 20$

[civic arch]

the b580 costs the same as a 4060 rn

[latent drum]

the 7600 xt

[civic arch]

16gb?

that shit is 70 euros more

[latent drum]

if you are at that price point and trying to get any use out of a nvidia card, you might wanna check your calendar its not 2016 anymore

[latent drum]

where?

[civic arch]

finland

i think the intel card has better rt

than the amd one

[latent drum]

i asked my friend in canada and the ones available in stock in stores are all the same price as the B580

[civic arch]

also xess which is less bad fsr

[latent drum]

in Germany, France and Turkey the 7600 XT is cheaper or the same price

thats if you find the B580 out of the paper launch ]

[civic arch]

how much is the 7600 xt there

[civic arch]

two places have stock still

7600xt is kinda badly priced it seems

[latent drum]

300 euros

[civic arch]

for not much more you could get a 7700xt

[civic arch]

16gb?

oh its the non xt that has 8

[latent drum]

i got rightnow the cheapest B580 and cheapest 7600 XT

in germany, both in stock

320 euros, 330 euros

[latent drum]

yes

you are paying the same (or more) for 4gb less vram and driver torture

[civic arch]

intel is the new amd on the driver issues?

[latent drum]

yeah

i have no clue what this shitty hype is around Intel cards

its not only clearly a paper launch, they are competeing with 2 year old gpus

that just proves that people dont even consider AMD as a player in the market

people took the card and compared to Nvidia and declared supremacy victory because the card is simply compared to nvidia

you can take any garbage and compare it to nvidia and it will hold up

[latent drum]

https://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/Show/199467/11339-04-20g/sapphire-radeon-rx-7600-xt-pulse-naytonohjain-16gb-gddr6

huh

correct me if iam wrong, but jimms is the place to buy hardware if you are in finland right?

[manic ibex]

You can already do that with a phone so 🤷

And you will need a very good internet

[civic arch]

yeah

i used price tracking websites tho

it seems its on sale

[compact sierra]

it is also convenient to have without attaching a controller to your phone as you need a controller clip on that holds your phone but it can snap and break or breaks and your phone falls a breaks the screen causing it to get cracked

[nova steppe]

If your phone cracks from falling at sitting height, then what the hell are your floors made of

[compact sierra]

well if your always on the go traveling on the transit well to and from work playing over mobile data sitting at bus stops waiting for the bus that can happen where the plastic on the phone mount breaks

[nova steppe]

I am just not taking that out on public transit

[compact sierra]

the portal is more for those who have an active lifestyle who like to game on the go

[fervent granite]

how are you supposed to use the portal outside of your house?

[nova steppe]

It loops back around to Internet viability

[compact sierra]

public wifi or mobile data or go to a friends and use the internet at a friends or families house

with phones data you can create a hot spot with your phone and connect the portal to your phones hot spot

[fervent granite]

brother you’re not getting shit done on a hotspot

[compact sierra]

i've done it before with my switch

[fervent granite]

speeds are usually horrendous and if it isn’t it’s expensive

[compact sierra]

if you don't have unlimited data you can get data overage charges

[exotic patrol]

the latency is horrendous on the ps portal

[compact sierra]

but sony added an update to the portal that now allows the portal to connect to public wifi hotspots where it would give you a qr code that you have to scan with your phone that lets you connect the portal to public wifi and improves the performance

[nova steppe]

It's not about if it can be done, ofc it can, it's about the speed/bandwidth and stability

[compact sierra]

there's been improvements to the portal with continous updates

[exotic patrol]

270 dollars for a streaming hunk of junk that needs an 18$ monthly subscription that doesn't even have new games outside of the service is just a joke

[nova steppe]

An update isn't going to make your game streams have lower ping unless there was an issue that was fixed

[exotic patrol]

a 120 dollar Samsung a04s could do better than it

[compact sierra]

they just launched and update this month that sony announced

[exotic patrol]

that has actual functionality outside of streaming

[compact sierra]

you'd still get latency with any remote play device

it's not exclusive to just the portal

i've done remote play with my phone and i still got latency

[exotic patrol]

yes but on the portal there's no way to circumvent that because you can't even adjust the streaming settings it's either dynamic or fixed at 1080p60 which can really suck

On a phone you can use the mobile data directly atleast so you wouldn't have to add another layer of wifi latency onto the already bad connection for streaming

[nova steppe]

Yeah, and I'm saying that's the main problem. It won't be inherently stable if you're just doing a hotspot or some random connection somewhere

[compact sierra]

i've had latency issues with my phone using remote play

[exotic patrol]

and they'll be the same or worse on the portal

so why bother

[nova steppe]

^

[compact sierra]

it happens with any device when connecting to remote play but all i'm saying is that nothing is perfect

[exotic patrol]

sure but that still doesn't justify getting the portal or give it any advantage from your phone

[compact sierra]

my phone has a cracked screen

[exotic patrol]

Also if you're using a mobile Hotspot you're still using your phone to broadcast to the portal to stream from it where you can avoid all of that if you just use the phone itself with less latency

[compact sierra]

it hard to do anything with having the screen cracked on my phone

[nova steppe]

So you're debating getting a separate device that can only be used with one library of games, over a phone repair or new phone that can do a whole lot more

[compact sierra]

pretty much

[exotic patrol]

270 dollar one purpose streaming device for 18$ a month compared to 50$ screen repair with no subscription and multi purpose

do what you want ig

[nova steppe]

[manic ibex]

https://assets-prd.ignimgs.com/2022/06/19/phone-controller-2-1655614327273.jpg?width=1280 these exist?

[exotic patrol]

you don't even need that you can just use a controller strap for like 5 dollars

[fallow forge]

@arctic yarrow it was probably the cable

tested another cable and it hasnt cut out yet

[nova steppe]

[arctic yarrow]

Was it the cable they provided?

[fallow forge]

yeah

[arctic yarrow]

Probably didn't crimp the ends properly

And they had the gall to suggest that other ethernet cables wouldn't work. lmao.

[rapid lake]

My friend’s laptop makes a weird noise from the speakers upon startup

And it’s been happening ever since he downloaded windows 11 according to him

[arctic yarrow]

out of date drivers maybe?

[rapid lake]

It’s the same sound you get when plugging in earphones into a phone or whatever

The old ones with the aux jack

[rapid lake]

Could be, he has a lenovo thinkpad something, do you know where he should look for drivers?

[arctic yarrow]

Either check lenovo's support website for that laptop's model and see if there's any windows 11 specific drivers, or check device manager, find the audio device, and look for drivers for it from that specific manufacturer.

[prisma trellis]

I got tired of using a controller mount so I just got this

[civic arch]

do people actually keep their aio at 100%

the fans are really annoying

i need to plug those into a separate header

do aios have a safe coolant temp ?

my aio seems really damn hot cuz its sucking all the gpu exhaust

260w of heat

[nova steppe]

due to the poor contact on my CPU, i run the pump at 100%, but the fans are on their own curve

[civic arch]

idk cpu seems to be 63c tdie when gaming

gpu was 60c normal and 80c hotsot

hotspot

that temp difference kinda bad

[nova steppe]

it's called a hotspot for a reason. That's to be expected

[civic cloud]

Im a hot spot 😎

[latent drum]

I think iam the onky person that set my cpu fans to off until the cpu is at 45C

But i heard that doesnt work with AMD cpus due to high idke temps

[nova steppe]

you are nowhere near the only person

[latent drum]

Passive cooling ftw

[civic arch]

when the io die be using 30w at idle

also the ihs being thick

[civic arch]

how noisy are your fans if you need 0 rpm

i always run all funs at like 600 rpm cuz they are quiet

cant hear with open back headphones

[cold elbow]

Only have cpu fans at like 200 rpm and one case fan chilling at 600 while idling to keep airflow inside the case and not cook it

Zero rpm on the cpu sounds like a bad idea

[brave field]

5060 6gb

[compact sierra]

so i'm thinking of getting one of these phone on a contract

they're basically for calling and texting

basically they're basically flip phone but one doesn't flip

but i was also thinking of getting this phone

they're supposed to be a more rugged compared to smartphones

what do you guys think

[snow rover]

but why

[arctic yarrow]

Why on a contract?

Just get a cheap flip phone with a prepaid plan

[latent drum]

0 dust

and no mechanical wear

[nova steppe]

that is just not what they asked lol

[latent drum]

iam saying they arent noisy

just better to zero them

8800 XT not beating the 7900 xt ot xtx

[wary pawn]

I have a portable charger. It was showing like charging phone, but after some time, no changes on battery percentage.

• So, i remembered i had a usb voltage showing device (forgot it’s name) and it was showing 0A.
• But when i put a usb lamp, it is working.

What could possibly wrong here? Is it dead?

[civic arch]

my pc turns into an oven real quick with no case fans on

[civic arch]

fans dont wear basically at all when running

most damage happens when they start to spin

0 rpm modes fuck up your fans if its constantly on/off

also dust filters exist

my gpu backplate has no specs of dust yet

[lost fossil]

i don't use 0rpm mode tbh

why do that when you can run the fans at the most minimal and lowest speed

[civic arch]

i think most fans these days live for like 10 years

atleast noctua ones

[lost fossil]

[civic arch]

most fans are rated for that time when fully on

[lost fossil]

noctua and fans are not the same thing tho

u know what i mean

[lost fossil]

maybe it can't provide enough juice to charge the phone, but just about enough to tell the phone that it can supposedly charge it

idk i'm not an electrical expert

[civic cloud]

Hello friends, does anyone have an idea for this problem in this forum https://www.computerbase.de/forum/threads/7800x3d-system-crash-in-fordernden-spielen.2222177/

This post is totally unrelated to me and not a post of one of my coworkers

Nope, couldn't be

[lost fossil]

9

tell your coworkers to stop breaking our server rules, please

[wary pawn]

What in the fuck?

[cold elbow]

My pc is idling most of the day and only really kick in when it's over 60C for a while.
Credits to FanControl for being the best software EVERRRRRRRRRR

[civic arch]

just use the motherboards own software

[cold elbow]

Tried replacing cable?
Tried charging another device?
If you can charge another device then it might be phone charging circuit fault.

[wary pawn]

It didn’t work on my iphone years ago, so i put it in a bag and throw deep in a drawer.

I remembered i had it so tried to use it. It can charge itself, but not charging phones (even if it shows as charging).

No warranty left as i bought it 5 years ago.

[cold elbow]

I guess u can keep using it as a flashlight now

[wary pawn]

I cba to take it to be fixed. So yeah, gonna be portable lamp from now on. 🔦

[wispy mesa]

have you tried a different usb cable

[wary pawn]

It wasn’t working on my phone years ago too.

But i was thinking at least it would work on android phones.

And the cable normally works with an adapter.

Still, gonna try it with another cable one last time.

I think it’s female usb part is dead or not fully soldered.

[latent drum]

We are talking about pc fans not ceiling fans

Sleeve bearings and windings wear out quickly

Get an old brushless PSU like 5-7 years old and you will see what i mean

They still work, they just sound like ass

If you got a nice set of case fans they probably allow full disassembling and reoiling, now these will last almost forever

[civic cloud]

What's rule 9

let me paraphrase: pc randomly shutting off, pls help

[wary pawn]

It doesn't want to work today, leave it alone.

[civic cloud]

It has to work

That's what it gets paid for

[latent drum]

whats the best budget 2tb+ Nvme/SSD
that doesnt use Silicon shits controller

[cold elbow]

Use the master ssd list

[latent drum]

is it even still updated?

[compact sierra]

I don't have upfront costs

[compact sierra]

I don't have have to pay upfront costs

Essentially i get a free phone

[arctic yarrow]

But flip phones are cheap asf

[nova steppe]

must not be cheaper than the portal

[lost fossil]

is there a slave ssd list? ahem uhh i mean post the master ssd list immediately

[latent drum]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B27_j9NDPU3cNlj2HKcrfpJKHkOf-Oi1DbuuQva2gT4/edit?gid=0#gid=0

the information is kind of inaccurate

well alot of it is

[twin badger]

I wonder where my SN720 would rank as

[lost fossil]

git it

does this only include the good stuff?

[fallow forge]

@arctic yarrow soooo

it might not have been the cable

i didnt replace it yet but i was organising the cables in the closet where the router is

there were like 4 50m cables all tangled up, 2 of which werent even in use

and i accidentally knocked the router off the shelf

[lost fossil]

holy fucking shit

[fallow forge]

i turned it back on, organised the cables and put the old cable in again and its been working as normal now

[arctic yarrow]

Maybe it wasn't seated properly?

[lost fossil]

but did you cut the in-use cables to length?

[fallow forge]

nope

[lost fossil]

[fallow forge]

i dont have the tools to put new connectors on

might do it later though

so basically it was either the router that was just acting up, or it was the provider and they fixed it

[lost fossil]

i don't get it

[civic arch]

holy hell does stockfish bring my cpu to its knees

just running some analysis it uses 95w :D

17 million nodes per second is better than i had before

tdie at 82c with 50% pump tho

[brave field]

@compact sierra bruh

[lost fossil]

stop right there

you're being trolled

[brave field]

yes yes'

every time

[latent drum]

I think RT cores will stop being faster soon

[lost fossil]

tiny10 at work turns out w10 doesn't know what ddr2 is

[latent drum]

Ddr2 is just two ddrs

That must be the shittest ddr2 setup

4 slots at 4gb ram

[lost fossil]

yes, you're right

[arctic yarrow]

lmfao

[lost fossil]

but i used windows xp on this machine until 2011 or so and lacking ram was never an issue

[arctic yarrow]

Last I checked, ddr2 is maxed at 4x2gb for most consumer motherboards.

[brave field]

How long after boot before the desktop was usable?

[lost fossil]

let me see

[latent drum]

Yes

[brave field]

I imagine Tiny10 is a lot faster than my c2d system running 10 at home

[lost fossil]

keep in mind that it's a fresh install of a trimmed af windows

[latent drum]

If you are in the prime year of 2008 obtaining 4 2gb sticks should be cheap asf

[brave field]

less than 10 minutes would be a dream

[lost fossil]

30 seconds

[latent drum]

I remember i had 2005 dell with 512mb ram

Added 8gb for like 7$

That was 13 years ago

[lost fossil]

yeah but i was in 8th grade and i had no idea what a ram is, all i knew was that i could finally play nfs undeground 1 with good graphics and that was more than enough

i had 2x1gb in it and i stole 4x1gb more from work the other day

[latent drum]

Oh i thought that is something you made for shitposting purposes lmao

Windows forget what DDR2 is

#Justice

[lost fossil]

i had the cpumobocooler collecting dust under my bed for like 11 years, this month i decided to steal written-off stuff from work to put a working system together and sell it for dirt cheap as a retro gaming pc of some sort

[latent drum]

Perfect torrent machine but that cpu probably have 120 MW idle power

[brave field]

install half life, max payne, and sonic heroes

[latent drum]

Whats the cpu

[lost fossil]

meanwhile me using a 145w xeon in my proxmox host that is mostly used for torrenting

[lost fossil]

e6750

[latent drum]

Oh

Its one of these little shits

Both ddr3 and ddr2 cpus

[latent drum]

Thing about xeons is that they idle probably

Old intel and AMD cpus think electricity bills are free

I rememberthe II consuming 70W at all times for no reason

[civic arch]

do you guys seed while torrenting?

[latent drum]

Yes

Ofc

[civic arch]

[latent drum]

My internet upload is only 8 instead of 15 due to technical difficulties

Almost 3tb upload

[civic arch]

????

[civic arch]

download repacks?

[latent drum]

Almost seeded 3tb

[civic arch]

is torrenting in usa illegal basically always?

[brave field]

nope

[civic arch]

i think in eu you can download stuff you cant buy or the devs abandoned it

if its so old

[latent drum]

In germany they ignore all the paperwork and send you a letter on speed dail

[brave field]

abandonware is still considered a gray area in respect to piracy, which we can't talk about here, but torrenting Linux ISOs or other files is legal in the US. Your ISP might still try to clap you though.

[latent drum]

Mullvad ftw

[civic arch]

i use windscribe cuz its cheap

also it has adblock

[latent drum]

It doesnt matter what you torrent in germany, they will fine your ass

[civic arch]

really nice when watching youtube on mobile

the amount of ads are stupid these days

always 2 ads

every like 2-5 mins

[latent drum]

I find that funny because i used to download repacks of games i owned because my internet speed at somepoint was 4mbps

[civic arch]

😭

is there some safety thing why people torrent linux ?

or privacy thing

[lost fossil]

yes

[latent drum]

Dont use linux but ig for accessibility

[civic arch]

holy hell

[latent drum]

My Canadian friend leaving his pc open overnight:

[civic arch]

do you guys keep pc on 24/7?

i share wifi from my pc so i leave it on basically always

[latent drum]

Yeah, mine idles at 8-15W

[civic arch]

mine idles probably at 50W

idk about psu losses

[latent drum]

Turn the fans off, rgb off and monitor off

[civic arch]

i dont think the rgb adds much

[latent drum]

Monitor is the most important part

[civic arch]

the fans need to be running so its not an oven

[civic arch]

let it just sleep?

my monitor is only at like 30% brightness usually

[latent drum]

If your windows is optimized enough to have culled all the unnecessary background processes

[civic arch]

100% would look nice but holy hell

my eyes

171 processes rn

[latent drum]

Also you sometimes have to accept that some parts are bad at idling

[civic arch]

yeah those things are my gpu/cpu

[latent drum]

Intel older cpus are very good at idling

Like 8-10th gen

I9 10850K sits at 10W while doing nothing? Sure

[civic arch]

hwinfo64 show package at 33w

is that the right one tho

core usage shows 1w

gpu idles at like 26W

is there any benefit to install newest gpu drivers

it seems amd only has some support for newer games

cs2/pubg work fine so no reason?

[latent drum]

Not really

Unless you are facing an issue or there is a major update

[civic arch]

dont think amd really does any major ones

for the gpu

just game support

[brave field]

They introduce fun new bugs sometimes

[civic arch]

i run my gpu at -10% power limit and limited clock :D

[latent drum]

Last time i personally owned an AMD gpu i had to check for updates daily lol

[civic arch]

why?

170w power usage only rn

[latent drum]

I owned an AMD gpu during the dark times

[civic arch]

so like 7 years ago?

10?

[lost fossil]

my 11th gen i9 es is idling at 18w

not bad ig

[latent drum]

5

[lost fossil]

4

those were truly the dark times

[latent drum]

11gen was kinda meh

[lost fossil]

it was cheap tho

[latent drum]

Yeah

45C at 19W

[lost fossil]

[latent drum]

Buying an AMD GPU pre 6000 series is like Russian roulette but 4 rounds are live

[civic arch]

i have a 7800xt

has worked good

16gb vram is too much no game uses it

beamng do be using all of it tho

but thats the only game that eats 32gb ram and all the vram

[arctic yarrow]

But then one is a squib, so you pull the trigger again and it catastophically fails, so you end up being maimed for life.

[compact sierra]

okay who pinged me?

[brave field]

me

it wasn't a ghost ping

Does Aliexpress have big sales for the new year?

Not Chinese new year but this upcoming one

[lost fossil]

i don't think so

[brave field]

I think I may have missed the 5700X3D for good 😭

[nova steppe]

Well, tracing stuff (ray, path, etc) uses quite a bit

I wish I had 16

I'm running out of 8

[latent drum]

a game can use 12.3

its not using 16

but you wouldnt wanna have 12 either

nvidia releasing an 8.47gb vram gpu because thats average over all the games released since 1995

[civic arch]

rt is not really worth it in most games

some light rt like some console ports run great tho

cuz it uses very little rt

[main grove]

Thank god I remembered this channel existed
Is anyone familiar with a thermalight aqua elite 240 v3
Mine won’t screw in above the CPU and yes I’m using the amd parts

The left side attaches fine but not the right

[lost fossil]

are you pressing on it hard enough (but not too hard)?

cooler mounting brackets are designed in a way where you have to press real hard on one of the sides so that there's good pressure on the cpu

[main grove]

I can try again after school but it just seems to be uneven pin spots

[nova steppe]

It's not about "worth" to me, I just want it in my games. My favorite settings deal with lighting, shadows, and reflections

[exotic patrol]

lighting is peak

[civic arch]

i would say gameplay is most important

idk about the graphics and lightning that much

many games have good exprience even with poor graphics

for example valheim

[nova steppe]

Well, it's specifically cyberpunk I want it in. I've already played through the game multiple times, so I have more of the chance to look around more. It also affects the atmosphere within many missions

[upper spruce]

I love all kinds of integration

[woeful cape]

My computer is fixed

No more overheating or crashing

[civic arch]

what was the problem?

[woeful cape]

pbo

[civic arch]

it being on ?

[woeful cape]

There was another advanced pbo setting that was on

[civic arch]

what one was it

[woeful cape]

because when i replied thermal paste i took out the cpu and it reset bios

[woeful cape]

I dont remember

[civic arch]

how are the clocks now and temps then

[woeful cape]

30-40c and the clock is about 100mhz when idle

[civic arch]

how high does it go when gaming

my cpu clock are almost always 5ghz

even idle

[undone creek]

Hey

Anyone busy?

[zenith turret]

yeah

sorry for the super late reply

[undone creek]

I am almost done with my project

[twin badger]

Yeah... except those are things that are pretty much useless on AMD cards

[nova steppe]

i know

i was referring to the usage of vram in general

[civic arch]

how?

[cold elbow]

Not being as good as nvidia does not make them useless... you can play a lot of games with ray tracing just fine on AMD

[nova steppe]

yeah, it was at the beginning where it was just nvidia native support

[undone creek]

Hey can someone run my project for me and see if it works

Please

[civic arch]

dont do this

[cold elbow]

Ironically you get better performance in some games because nvidia cards cant run well with 8gb vram with ray tracing

[undone creek]

Uh

[civic arch]

why not run it on your own system

[undone creek]

I cannot

[civic arch]

why not

[undone creek]

Local host is annoying me

It's a long story

[civic arch]

what is your project then

[undone creek]

It's a web application

[civic arch]

html?

[undone creek]

HTML and CSS

Strictly

[civic arch]

you can just copy that into a message also

i think

so we can see that

[undone creek]

I cannot

My plan was to use local host

But thats fucked up

Does it work on your end @civic arch

[civic arch]

i aint touching random files on discord

[twin badger]

You'll run out of performance before you'll run out of VRAM on AMD cards. It's essentially the other way around for Nvidia, except for the top of the line stuff.

[civic arch]

what do you want to be even tested

you can see how it looks for example

[cold elbow]

Ok go run the last of us remaster on a 3070

[twin badger]

Pretty sure they fixed it

[civic arch]

😭

[twin badger]

Also, try to use AMD's upscaling in order to even get decent framerates on RT

it's not gonna look that great

[civic arch]

fsr/dlss both look like ass

[cold elbow]

They "fixed it" by rendering texture on lower resolution when they detect low vram?

[twin badger]

Mmmmm... not really

[civic arch]

dlss is usually better if the game has horrible TAA

or using dlaa

[civic arch]

both are blurry to my eyes

[twin badger]

👓

[cold elbow]

I don't even use upscalling because the performance is just great without it

[civic arch]

upscaling is not yet even close to native

[cold elbow]

And i have frame gen in ALL games.

[civic arch]

unless the game is a blurry mess by default

[civic arch]

frame gen is decent on some games

in ghost of tsushima there was some weird artifacts on text

other than that it was decent

like the subtitles

[cold elbow]

Yeah it's fixed now

Even tho i don't use it because once again the card runs games just fine without all this nonsense

[civic arch]

what card you got

[cold elbow]

6800 xt

[civic arch]

i got the next version of that

7800xt

[cold elbow]

They're almost the same card

[civic arch]

both perform pretty similarly

or some games it depends

think rt is slightly better on 7800?

[cold elbow]

Maybe

[civic arch]

6800xt has more cores and compute units tho?

[cold elbow]

Not sure tbh

Once i got it i stopped caring about checking game settings and look for optimizations

[civic arch]

7800xt has faster memory so that might be why its sometimes faster

[twin badger]

3840 on 7800xt and 4608 on 6800xt

[cold elbow]

3070 was the worst card i have ever used

[civic arch]

how high is the clock on 6800xt tho

7800xt might have higher clock so it balances out

[twin badger]

Yep

[cold elbow]

I have the speedster or something which i think is pre overclocked?

[twin badger]

Either of these, i assume

[cold elbow]

They both look black to me

[twin badger]

there's a swft model too, but thats non OC

[cold elbow]

Yeah merc is mine

Written on the backplate

[twin badger]

GPU-Z should show the exact one

[undone creek]

Who can test my project out

[cold elbow]

Enable windows sandbox on your pc and test it

[civic arch]

i have 7800xt hellhound

from

idk

powercolour

[tranquil vapor]

this beast is beefy

[manic ibex]

we have this in school

lot of them

[tranquil vapor]

I love them

[exotic patrol]

Dell optiplexes make for the best sleeper builds

[tranquil vapor]

I love my optiplex systems

[cold elbow]

I fucking hate them

[tranquil vapor]

Why

[cold elbow]

Proprietary parts

Shit airflow

[exotic patrol]

ye that and the cooling situation is an abomination

[tranquil vapor]

Oh yeah that pisses me off

[cold elbow]

Heavy af

[tranquil vapor]

Ill prob will just take it and throw it into one of my random cases with a better psu and better fans

[cold elbow]

Yeah u have to drill and grind stuff to get em in

So use a cardboard box

Until your house get on fire

[tranquil vapor]

I have 3 ATX cases

Well two that i can use, one of them has a broken screw in one of the standoffs

[twin badger]

Good for those from third world countries

[tranquil vapor]

this is actually an upgrade from what I had

[twin badger]

Good for you, just don't expect great upgradability

[tranquil vapor]

I had an optiplex 390

[twin badger]

that doesnt tell much

theres multiple configurations for that PC

[tranquil vapor]

Optiplex 390, i5-2400, 12gb ddr3, a gpu (i cant remember)

[twin badger]

and what are you on now?

[tranquil vapor]

nothing

it died

[twin badger]

Welp, due for an upgrade anyways

[tranquil vapor]

Ill end up upgrading the cpu and stuff but yeah

[twin badger]

to... what?

The whole system is old

You need a new PC

[sharp coyote]

Do MRP

[civic arch]

mrp?

[sharp coyote]

MPT*

[undone creek]

Hey

[sharp coyote]

Hello

[undone creek]

I wish someone can test my project

[sharp coyote]

?

[undone creek]

@sharp coyote What

[civic arch]

mpt?

[lost fossil]

steve nexus gave good praise to id-cooling coolers but i can for sure say for this 120mm id-cooling aio that it saw occt and said "i aint dissipatin allat 🔥 😂 "

[cold elbow]

skill issue

[lost fossil]

scool issue

[tranquil vapor]

if you arent hitting 200C then you arent playing games!

[lost fossil]

i'm witnessing a thermal runaway or smth

[cold elbow]

just realized that you are using a freaking 3600

how ttfffff do you manage to overheat that

[lost fossil]

i replaced the stock fan with a spare noctua that i had laying around and it still reached the thermal limit it just did so a lot slower

[tranquil vapor]

can you make it hotter?

[lost fossil]

a fresh coat of paint arctic mx6 + id cooling frostflow 120 + noctua fan that came with the nh-u12s + power supply test in occt

[cold elbow]

my 3600X was cool af with a stock tiny amd cooler

[lost fossil]

during the psu test in occt?

[tranquil vapor]

eh, ill take it but i wont be happy with it.

[lost fossil]

so was mine... it's this one, in fact

it's just that i never ran this torture test on it before

[cold elbow]

🧟

[tranquil vapor]

I gotta now do some network tidying up

[snow rover]

84 ms ping

skull emoji

[nova steppe]

I know this personally

[tranquil vapor]

That is because it is on my xbox which is as good as I am good looking.

[snow rover]

that isn't doing any routing

[sharp coyote]

Amd overclocking tool

[tranquil vapor]

eh, idk, every single test i do on my xbox is 84ms ping but on other stuff it is lower

[tranquil vapor]

btw here

[brave field]

google speedtest servers vs Microsoft ones? Or wired vs wireless?

[tranquil vapor]

google, wired

^ speedtest, wired - DIsh Wireless server

[lost fossil]

typical american internet speeds

[tranquil vapor]

Lmao

only when the weather isnt absolute dogshite

[lost fossil]

why give the user 500/500 when you can give the user 500/20

[tranquil vapor]

fr

[lost fossil]

this post was made by the 750/750 gang

[tranquil vapor]

It isnt like we pay a bunch of money for internet services

[lost fossil]

~~not like that matters too much these days ~~

[tranquil vapor]

for the stuff i plan on doing, it does

[civic arch]

never heard of t

[twin badger]

I have yet to understand why ISP's do this bullshit

Mine does this aswell

[nova steppe]

the gigabit plan xfinity (comcast) used to have was 1000/35. I would get 40 upload tho

or maybe 40 and i got 45. all i remember is that i got only 5 megabit more than stated

[nova steppe]

wifi ye?

[twin badger]

This is just my phone

5G

[nova steppe]

5G, or 5GHz wifi?

[twin badger]

5G

[nova steppe]

hmm

well, either way, it answered my question. I was wondering why the loaded ping was so high.

[lost fossil]

gaming

[exotic patrol]

is that yours

[sharp coyote]

go crazy

Packet loss

[exotic patrol]

this is my bottlenecked speed

but mobile data

[compact sierra]

https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2024/12/12/playstation-ps-portal-system-software-firmware-update-401/

has the ps portal improved

[lost fossil]

yes

[exotic patrol]

are you sure the ltsc image that you used is not an infestation

[cold elbow]

Because ISPs think they know better than us and for the most part most people only look at download speed
U buy packages based on download speed
Isp save some money selling that upload bandwidth to people that need it

[civic cloud]

Average company behaviour

I wish natural monopolies wouldn't be privatised

[wary pawn]

It is not your primary pc don’t lie.

[lost fossil]

no wdym

[wary pawn]

Is it untouched? Probably means

[lost fossil]

it's tiny10

this note is gamers steve openly telling us to put ourselves in the ground

[civic cloud]

Fractal cases are so sexy

[lost fossil]

they really put nut in the walnut part of their cases

[civic cloud]

Yes

[fickle finch]

Lol

[crystal marsh]

Guys, my ps4 download speed so fucked up, even i use ethernet connection

How to fix this?

[oblique python]

Ps4 is slowly dying off, tbh best way to fix it is to just get a ps5 😂 the ps4s download has always been slower even with god tier download wifi speed

[crystal marsh]

How funny

I got it for free, and just testing

[oblique python]

Best way is to probably do a storage wipe and try to see if there's any viruses on it

Other than that do a full system reset where u shut down the ps4 clear out ots downloads and restart it

[crystal marsh]

I didn’t know that i need to download 110GB game for a 24 hours

[oblique python]

Average tbh

[crystal marsh]

Did everything you described

[jovial tide]

"Stability" improvements on a literal cloud device

Make it make sense

[plucky raft]

Maybe it's just your internet being shit?

[crystal marsh]

On pc everything is okay

[plucky raft]

This is the weirdest solution i have ever seen

[oblique python]

That's a possibility but I had decent wifi and it still would take like 12 hours tops in rest mode to download 110 gb games the ps4s download speeds are just garbo

[sharp coyote]

Ps4 network card

Kekw

[oblique python]

I had to do it once b4 it was sad and annoying

[plucky raft]

What are the speeds on pc and ps4?

[plucky raft]

There are no viruses on ps

[oblique python]

Yes there are tho it's rare to get

[oblique python]

If u have a gb per sec PC can hold that gb solid where ps4 would automatically drop to 750 MBs to even as low as 500 mbs (this is just for example btw)

[sharp coyote]

That is kind of drive issue. Hm

Then

[oblique python]

That's true tho it's rare for it to fry itself tho ig it's possible

[plucky raft]

Ps4 can never reach 750MBs

At this point you are Pulling shit out of your ass

[oblique python]

That's my point, if ur wifi is good then expect it to be cut in half cuz the download speed sucks

[crystal marsh]

On my pc (if take gta 5 for example) it takes 3 hours for download

[sharp coyote]

Ps4 is Abt 550mb/s on pc you are limited by your network xD

[jovial tide]

Unless you decide to....get a little creative with the browser. iykyk

[oblique python]

Again I said it's an example as in the numbers, even if u only had 10 mbs of download speed the ps4 would pull half that if not less

[plucky raft]

Oh yeah and you will download what? A windows virus?

[plucky raft]

You are mistaken

[sharp coyote]

Different from ps4. On pc you are being network limited not drive speed usually. If u dont have 10GB/s network packet

[jovial tide]

Fun fact, you don't have to download anything to get a virus

[oblique python]

I've had wifi testers prove my point but if u think I'm lying then cope on ur own time

[plucky raft]

What the fuck is a wifi tester?

[oblique python]

R u serious? It's an app on ur phone or PC that tests the power of ur wifi but yk I'm pulling shit out my ass 😂

[plucky raft]

Im not saying that you are lying, you just dont know what you are talking about

"Power of your wifi"

[oblique python]

And u don't know what a wifi tester is im the one who doesn't know ☠️☠️☠️

[oblique python]

I had to dumb it down for u srry not srry

[plucky raft]

Ok dude

[civic cloud]

Hana just hating again

[oblique python]

She's just upset she got called out for the most basic things u can do on PC and ur phone

[sharp coyote]

Just use speedtest

[snow rover]

what the fuck is a wifi tester

[lost fossil]

maybe a wifi scanner app on the phone that can show the signal strength of different networks?

[brave field]

I think I've spent the past three years on my backup BIOS instead of the main one

Thanks Gigabyte

[civic cloud]

I know that feeling

[brave field]

"Auto" chose 2933mhz cl12 after doing the update gauntlet F25->f31->ecfw->f40. Nice

[civic cloud]

I managed to update the power saving bios of my GPU with the power mode bios and vice versa

[brave field]

Ended up on F20

[civic cloud]

What the heck is ecfw

[brave field]

Gigabyte requires some B350 boards to use this tool before some updates, else more than 2 DIMMs is unstable

Its duct taped together, leaves behind empty log files and you have to delete its folder if you end up having to rerun it

F40 to F53 time

I'm either going to be in my backup BIOS long term, or I just got out of being in it long term

[high ember]

looking to learn how to mode for my enjoyment can i get help

[fickle finch]

Hana is funny 🤭

[nova steppe]

this all started from one person saying MB/s instead of Mb/s

[fickle finch]

lol

[jovial tide]

Anyone know any efficient ways to batch remove messages from ones dms?

[cold elbow]

Back in the day i used a script on my keyboard to remove them one by one

...

[civic cloud]

There's some chrome add-on that does that, forgot the name tho :(

[cold elbow]

I think they're kinda sketch since they need your token

[civic cloud]

Yes

[spiral jasper]

Is going from a 3070ti to a rx 7900 gre a good jump in performance

[fickle finch]

You got that router Mel?

[sharp coyote]

Considerable yes 28% performance increase on stock

Also what 7900gre models

Some models have very good oc potential on mem

So its going to be near 7900xt level

Like hellhound has best oc currently

[fickle finch]

I heard tp link has become insecure

[civic arch]

aint the 3070 ti a 8gb card?

7900 gre most likely will be alot better if the game requires vram

[spiral jasper]

MERC 310

[sharp coyote]

Indeed it is

[sharp coyote]

Could do oc

[cold elbow]

I have a 20$ tp link router

[fickle finch]

I heard tp link got alot of vulnerabilities recently

You will change to a different brand?

[cold elbow]

No

[fickle finch]

I guess you don't need a good router bec your internet plan is good?

[cold elbow]

What do you mean by good router?

This one can do gigabit

More than i ever need

[fickle finch]

Oh

I didnt meet anyone yet with an expensive router

[cold elbow]

Most expensive gimmick routers are well... a gimmick

[fickle finch]

I see

[cold elbow]

And they usually say a lot of bullshit about wifi

I use ethernet soooo

[fickle finch]

Can't they like prioritise traffic for gaming

What features do they offer

[cold elbow]

That is true for wifi not cable

And it's usually just wifi generation

[fickle finch]

Oh

Cat6 cable Mel?

[cold elbow]

5E

[fickle finch]

I see

[cold elbow]

Also my router has that priority bullshit

[fickle finch]

Lol but why isn't it helpful

[cold elbow]

Wifi is a wave that tries to switch between devices to give them data

Ethernet can easily communicate with all of the devices at the same time

[fickle finch]

Your right

Ethernet is faster

But kind of messy when it's all about

My router is outside my room so I need to drill a hole somewhere to connect my pc to it

[latent drum]

https://youtu.be/NK29FEK58xQ

7600 xt not mentioned once]

[civic arch]

thats a good brand for amd

i think powercolor and xfx are the best ones

sapphire also

[cold elbow]

Cant you fish wire a cable in the walls?

[fickle finch]

Fish wire?

[exotic patrol]

is the new Intel gpu in there

[cold elbow]

Yes

First one

[rapid lake]

Can you download windows 11 without using a USB

[exotic patrol]

if the pc has a functioning windows install then yes

or well you can download it on anything really but installing it is a different story

[cold elbow]

you mean getting the ISO yes

[exotic patrol]

I assume he wants to install it

[cold elbow]

we shall wait

[rapid lake]

Yeah

[rapid lake]

You know what I mean

[exotic patrol]

so you want to reinstall windows on a pc with a functional windows install?

and no flash drive

?

[rapid lake]

It has an active windows 10 yes

[exotic patrol]

then just download the ISO and run the setup.exe inside

easy as that

[cold elbow]

there is the upgrade tool as well

[rapid lake]

The assistant?

[exotic patrol]

ye but it's really inefficient and requires you to install the dumb pc health check app

[cold elbow]

something like that... i never use that shit

[exotic patrol]

the setup.exe is way better

[rapid lake]

Cool

Thanks

[exotic patrol]

np

if it's not supported then it's not worth installing w11 on it using the Microsoft way since they block you from all updates and give you a watermark

[rapid lake]

It’s supported

[exotic patrol]

cool

[rapid lake]

Friend got a new laptop

And it came with fuckin windows 10

It’s used but still

[exotic patrol]

tbh good

[rapid lake]

I feel he got scammed though, maybe it’s just me

[exotic patrol]

what are the specs

[rapid lake]

It’s a dell.. something
16gb ram, i7 10750h, 1660ti and the one reason I think justifies the price is the 144hz display because yay gaming

For storage I think it’s 1tb or 500gb not sure

And he paid 600 something USD, used

Or "open box" as they call it here

The lenovo loq I see is a much better option at that price point

[exotic patrol]

Ok it's a Dell g5 15 5500

tbh looks like an abomination but the specs aren't too bad

[rapid lake]

Ok it’s a Dell g5 15 5500

💀

[exotic patrol]

?

[rapid lake]

From what I’ve heard dells can be really unreliable

And bad support

[exotic patrol]

Dell isn't that bad but they have a bloatware problem

but tbh so do most pre-builts or laptops

and most of them use single channel ram for whatever reason

[compact sierra]

Finally got the ps portal

[jovial tide]

[cold elbow]

this reminds me that i should charge my psp

[frail lark]

Yo, is allowed to ask about Excel Help in this channel?

[pliant lynx]

yes

[frail lark]

then someone help me with this

i don't want the Blank Cells to be Colored

[pliant lynx]

conditional formatting

[frail lark]

I did, but the Blank Cells are considered as a Value of 0

One of the Conditional Formats is Red Cell if Cell is < 30

But i don't want to make the Blank Cells as Red

[pliant lynx]

i do it real quick

[frail lark]

If i try to do a Conditional Format for Blank Cell if Cell = 0, then it will paint it full white and differs of the Table Style

[pliant lynx]

give me a second

[frail lark]

Take an Hour if you want

I have plenty of time

[pliant lynx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aVdN69dl5Q&ab_channel=TechSessions

[frail lark]

I will give it a Look rn

[frail lark]

You just saved my Life, but at the same time i discovered I'm stupid as fuck

[pliant lynx]

I mean

[frail lark]

Despite that video tip Working, i apparently just had to change the "Lower to" conditional with "Between"

And then put 0 and 30…

[pliant lynx]

That how programing makes us feel

[frail lark]

I realized in the hard way

Mf, i feel braindead now…

[frail lark]

I struggled for, without lying, 5 hours because the Table is way bigger than i showed in the Screenshot, to try Blank the Blanks

And i just had to use "Between"

I wanna die,

[woeful cape]

Rate my build

[snow rover]

stupid and expensive aio on a presumably low tdp cpu instead of buying a step better gpu

[civic cloud]

You didn't rate it

[snow rover]

i rate it an L out of 10

[twin badger]

ion have anything against AIO's, especially if you like how they look, but buying the most overpriced NZXT one is not how i would do it...

And then skimping on the GPU

[exotic patrol]

tbh I wouldn't get anything from NZXT with their renting nonsense

[sharp coyote]

Psus aside

Top notch

[lost fossil]

tbh it's the renting thing

the rest is good... it's like not buying an amd cpu because their gpus are not the best

[latent drum]

That AIO isnt rven good

What the fuck is that case

It looks like an Air flow case made for vertical GPUs but its so fucked

[cold elbow]

Looks great

[cold elbow]

Do u talk shit about people buying noctua coolers?

[cold elbow]

Their C series PSUs are great
Because they're basically a rebadged seasonic

But cheaper

[lost fossil]

so 7 out of 10?

[fickle finch]

@cold elbow Mel what do you mean by fish wire the cable

I feel Mel can do well as an ISP technician helping people with their network setup

What do you say?

[cold elbow]

This is what so called a fish wire

Most cables are run through pipes inside walls

You use this wire to push it inside one of these pipes... then attach your ethernet cables and pull it back out

This way you can route a cable in your walls without having to drill anything or have a visible cable

[fickle finch]

Yo

How did you learn about this mel

[cold elbow]

So in one of the apartments i lived in had internet cable in the walls but it was kinda damaged

[fickle finch]

Oh

[cold elbow]

Pulling it made it worse because i wasn't able to push it back

Did some research and discovered the fish wire

[fickle finch]

Ok

What are the other options other than fish wire did you find out

[cold elbow]

Nothing

[fickle finch]

Fr

[cold elbow]

It's useful for all kinds of cable wiring

[fickle finch]

The wall here is cement

I need to drill the door wall

[cold elbow]

You can upgrade your house by removing old coax or whatever

[fickle finch]

The cable is 20m long though what are those things that are used to keep them tidy

The router is sitting by the stairs which is between the 2nd and ground floor

[cold elbow]

Yes but how cables are inside the walls?

Are they in plastic pipes?

[fickle finch]

They're underground here

[cold elbow]

Doesn't matter

[fickle finch]

So fish wire hm

[cold elbow]

Just umm

Try to remove one of your wall plugs

And see if the cables are coming from a tube

[fickle finch]

Wall plug?

[cold elbow]

Wall socket

[fickle finch]

That's going to be tough

I need to get back home until I can experiment

[lost fossil]

i read on the internet that u can use a garden hose instead of a wire conduit

i mean instead of the one designed for the job

bc a garden hose is stronk but also smooth on the inside so you end up not even needing a phishing wire

[sharp coyote]

Gold v1 is basically the only one which is seasonic focus gold
Nzxt e IS modified focus
Nzxt s v1 early is sgx

Everything else is CWT. 1 high power

[snow rover]

if they spend 150 on a tower cooler that performs exactly the same as a 40 dollar thermalright at the cost of a better cpu/gpu upgrade, yes

[cold elbow]

I don't think you can fish that inside a cables tube

It's too wide

But maybe the people recommend it are using different standards

[lost fossil]

i dont mean inside a cable tube, i mean instead

[cold elbow]

Idk much about these but i think the one used for wires has some specs like fire resistance

Or longer life

Or harder to handle forces of concrete

Donno

[compact sierra]

Looks different from my ps5 controller

This seems like this worth the wait

[snow rover]

looks different?

i wonder if that screen in the middle has anything to do with it

[exotic patrol]

it's like they actually split the controller in half

also why is the image quality so bad

[compact sierra]

I didn't have any latency it was very smooth fast responses

[exotic patrol]

in the same network obviously

[compact sierra]

I liked the ps portal

It's great

[compact sierra]

Is the amd radion hd 7470 a good gpu

[frail lark]

yo, who here can help me at compressing some functions into one on excel?

[snow rover]

if your point of comparison is a geforce 210, yes

if your point of comparison is a 4090, no

[compact sierra]

In comparison to the lenovo GeForce gt730

[snow rover]

no

[woeful cape]

Did i cook?

[civic cloud]

You spent all the money on the pc

Now invest some in a desk without picnic blanket and some zip ties for cable management

[cedar valley]

True

[civic cloud]

Also peel the plastic???

[lost fossil]

the cooking is burnt

not because it was fire though

[pliant lynx]

What function

[frail lark]

well, all that is based on IFs, ANDs and ORs, but all the proces is so long that i needed more than 18 cells

[pliant lynx]

There a way to do it but I doubt is what u want

[frail lark]

i can show you the spreadsheet if you want

[pliant lynx]

Maybe I need to know what you actually trying to do

[pliant lynx]

Give me your scenario maybe uwu

[frail lark]

is a really really accurate HSV to RGB Converter

but literally, so accurate with a range of 9 decimals

[pliant lynx]

Oh that, sorry I never tried doing that kind of things kekW

[frail lark]

no, i mean, all the formulas are done

the Converter works perfectly

is just too fucking long...

[pliant lynx]

Too much variable to compressed

[frail lark]

indeed

[jovial tide]

Why is this at 70%?

[civic cloud]

It's providing

[jovial tide]

About the answer I expected here

[lost fossil]

i don't mean to be that kind of guy but

looks like this is a widespread issue

[jovial tide]

I literally googled, why do you think I asked here? I have yet to figure out what is causing it to be at what it is.

[lost fossil]

on the topic of googling, i hate this

[brave field]

they should be blacklisted

[lost fossil]

yes i was just about to say

[jovial tide]

I restarted the process, clean booted

[brave field]

if only they didn't make enough ad revenue to pay for the top google spot

[lost fossil]

looks like you need to look into the event viewer and then look for wmi-activity events

[lost fossil]

and then look at the process id here, then find that process in the task manager and then go from there

[jovial tide]

Friend said it means "Remote Access", is someone in my PC?

[lost fossil]

no

how is your friend sure

did you look through the processes list in the task manager and did you find a process with pid 25356?

[compact sierra]

Still find enjoyment with the portal although it had input lag on it

It's too be expected

[jovial tide]

No id so far that I can find with that

[lost fossil]

[jovial tide]

I found this

[lost fossil]

bro bought a controller with a screen to play games on that screen when there's a big ass tv with the same video feed right in front of him
with a healthy dose of copium about lag

wireless mouse
look outside
wires

the worst part is that about 4500 people bought this

[brave field]

Or Bluetooth ones that "require 2.4g adaptor"

[fickle finch]

Steam deck better

[lost fossil]

@woeful iris u got called out

[woeful iris]

shrug

tbh for simplicity its def good, had one breifly but yeah my issue and why I switched from the deck to an ally is mainly the games I wanted to play did not function properly, or some games would not work at all do to some anticheats not workong well with linux (yes I know I could had got it running windows but oh well)

only shitty thing about the ally for now is it's running win 11...

Other than that its satisfied me and out the box is better for me as someone who owns a few games I like to play on different launchers like epic etc.

[exotic patrol]

what does winmgmt /verifyrepository say

[compact sierra]

Are these bad speeds for online gaming

[exotic patrol]

not too bad but none of these show the latency

use https://speedtest.net and send a screenshot of that

[compact sierra]

It's 40 ms

[wispy mesa]

so roughly 80ms delay

in an almost perfect scenario

[compact sierra]

Is that bad for remote play

[wispy mesa]

find out i guess

it could be too much for some

also depends on the game

[snow rover]

the answer is yes

[compact sierra]

Okay I'm on telus pure fiber i don't have optik fiber

Is there a difference between pure fiber and optik fiber

[wispy mesa]

no theyre just different advertisement names for fibre home internet most likely

[jovial tide]

So what you mean to say is, it was a waste of money (Like everyone was trying to say)

[compact sierra]

The portal?

[wispy mesa]

use a admin command prompt

[rich latch]

https://youtu.be/vc4yL3YTwWk?si=4rKttWYU5-9mI6V0