tech-coding-math

[toxic sentinel]

But you should still get 90-100fps I think if you don't have MSAA enabled

[empty cape]

Idek what MSAA is

[jade pivot]

There are "laptops" with desktop GPUs

[toxic sentinel]

Are they full desktop GPU though?

[jade pivot]

yes

[toxic sentinel]

With same clocks?

[jade pivot]

Yes

[empty cape]

Also, should I get gta from epic games store or steam

[toxic sentinel]

Anti-aliasing so it makes it look less pixelated

[jade pivot]

It's literally the same plate with different fans

[toxic sentinel]

But those probably cost like 5000$ or more

[empty cape]

????

[toxic sentinel]

But doesn't they have make some compromises though? What about RTX 4090?

[empty cape]

Answer pls

[toxic sentinel]

Whichever you like the most

[empty cape]

Also I can have my PS4 account on my laptop right

[snow rover]

no

[toxic sentinel]

You can't transfer your progress from console to PC

[empty cape]

[jade pivot]

You can get the ps app on PC and stream from console tho

[toxic sentinel]

I had to start GTA Online over against, because I switched to PC as well

[jade pivot]

So technically you can login to ps from your computer

[toxic sentinel]

But I had a big break between PS4 and PC GTA

[empty cape]

nah I’m good then lmfao I rather wait for gta 6 at that point and just get that on my laptop

I don’t get it tho

what if I’m signed into epic games from my PS4 account

and I get gta on epic games

[toxic sentinel]

It wouldn't let you transfer progress from PS4 though

[empty cape]

So like, I’m gonna be lvl 1?

[toxic sentinel]

I think so

I don't have experience over that

[empty cape]

You said you had to start over too?

[toxic sentinel]

I never connected my PS4 account to PC

I just made new Rockstar Social Club accout

I used to play on PS4 in 2015 and I started again at 2020 so it wasn't huge loss

Because GTA Online was pretty barebones in 2015 compared to today

And main reason why I went back to GTA Online was RDO

I thought RDO could had been better game than GTA Online, but how wrong was I

[empty cape]

Lemme send u a YT video I found

[toxic sentinel]

Alright

[empty cape]

https://youtu.be/q6823O0HMtY?si=iFAzztj6DRTzEqei

It’s old

But he does make a bit sense

I’m willing to try and waste 30 bucks, as long as I can still play on my PS4 with my original account and not restart all over again on my PS4 too

[snow rover]

you will not be able to

anything you can think of, it isn't going to work

[quartz kayak]

They do

while True:
    try:
        input_num = input('Enter 3 numbers: ')
        numbers = [float(num) for num in input_num.split()]
        
        if len(numbers) != 3:
            raise ValueError('Please enter exactly 3 numbers.')

        min_number = numbers[0]

        for num in numbers[1:]:
            if num < min_number:
                min_number = num

        print('The minimum number is:', min_number)
        break
    except ValueError as e:
        print(f'Invalid input: {e}')

Pay up

[cold elbow]

Literally the opposite
U is the power saving cpus for laptops

[empty cape]

And what’s H then

[cold elbow]

higher perormance CPUs usually cpus for gaming laptops

oe heavy workloads

U usually for thin and light laptops or cheap

[jovial tide]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBE374fudxY Yikes...

[dawn cosmos]

I’m gonna buy this.

It runs gta5 at 160 fps.

So it’s could enough.

Good*

But I might improve the ram

[wispy mesa]

thats just an expensive version of what i made you lol

[dawn cosmos]

It’s way cheaper

I just added random stuff because I was just checking it outs

It’s like 1000

[wispy mesa]

Its motherboard kinda bad as well

[wispy mesa]

plus its 1099 base, and mine was 1016 base, better mobo and already upgraded ram

[dawn cosmos]

Yeah but it still runs gta at 160 fps

Which is good

[wispy mesa]

yea so does the umart one, for 80 ish bucks cheaper

[sour marsh]

You should't base your purchases on GTA 5

that's just going to make the purchase worse

[wispy mesa]

theyre not really listening to us lol, they just keep sending prebuilts n asking "if this is good" or they ask for help n then just ignore the help lol, day 5 today

[sour marsh]

may as well not be able to use the channel

[dawn cosmos]

Bro I’m just trying to buy something good.

[wispy mesa]

We gave you something good

either take it, or ask somewhere else

[sour marsh]

meanwhile I am now starting with TinkerCAD

which is interesting

[wispy mesa]

the 3d aspect or circuits

[sour marsh]

circuits

[wispy mesa]

Nice, its pretty good

[sour marsh]

I used to use these boards manually, so I know some of it

some

there's alot of the stuff I never touched, so I am gonna have some fun with this later

[wispy mesa]

ah ye, theres a lot there to do, and some pretty cool things people have made you can load up. Im more doing the AVR side with the programming

[dawn cosmos]

What about this pc.

[wispy mesa]

no i think that one may blow up

[dawn cosmos]

How.

[sour marsh]

1,4k for that?

uhh why is it so expensive for last gen CPU tech

[wary pawn]

Yeah.

[dawn cosmos]

Idk ppl say it runs gta 5 on max graphics

[sour marsh]

Again why does GTA 5 of all things matter? You have a Series S/X to play GTA there

[wispy mesa]

AUD

[sour marsh]

Ah

[wispy mesa]

Still overpriced

i made basically the same one for 1049

[dawn cosmos]

And forza

[dawn cosmos]

Is there windows 11 or smth

[dawn cosmos]

For that

[wispy mesa]

yes if you get umart to install it

[dawn cosmos]

This it?

Windows 11 is pretty expensive 💀

1.3K total

[twin notch]

Does anyone know how to make a video corrupt? (Like unable to be opened)

[jade pivot]

change the filetype

[wispy mesa]

right click, edit in notepad, scroll down a bit, change a few things add more stuff, save. tada

[wispy mesa]

I would change the ram and mobo

[wispy mesa]

where did you get 1.3, it says 1.15

[dawn cosmos]

Windows 11 and build the pc

[wispy mesa]

shouldnt need to add that to cart, theyll put it on anyway

just be unregistered

n you can buy a cheaper key later

[dawn cosmos]

my

mk

[quartz kayak]

Doit

[dawn cosmos]

What Ethernet

[lost fossil]

are you sure about that

[prisma citrus]

waiting for the exclusive windows 9 key 🔥

[fickle finch]

I'm going for the PS5 @blazing barn @cold elbow@jade pivot

I can afford that PC with my salary but the costs, maintenance, not being portable is a turn off for me. Plus I will get a gaming monitor since it has a faster input response time then a TV so I can use the PS5 with this and my laptop for work

I feel I am going to take care of a baby because theres so much money going into the PC that if anything were to happen to it would hurt me lol

And most of my IRL mates are on console and fewer on PC so thats my reasoning to go for the PS5

[quartz kayak]

[cold elbow]

It's your funeral i guess

[rose yacht]

On ps you gotta pay for funny ps plus

Oh well, gg ig

[cold elbow]

I don't remember the last time something broke on a pc

Meanwhile controllers

[fickle finch]

hehehe

[fickle finch]

4 dollars a month

[lost fossil]

that's 4 dollars in a multibillion dollar corporation's pocket and not yours

[fickle finch]

a good exchange 🤝

[lost fossil]

or is it

[frosty vortex]

when your networking box is overheating...

[lost fossil]

get it it's a box

                ![PeepoWeird](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/585616300320227348.webp?size=128 "PeepoWeird")

[cold elbow]

Shit i would build

[dawn cosmos]

I’m gonna get this rn

[cold elbow]

🔥

[dawn cosmos]

Is it good. I think it’s good and worth it

[lost fossil]

@cold elbow there is at least one part from your pinned message that applies here

[brave field]

This has to be the most painful ebay auction loss yet

Latitude E7470 for $30... so close

And not even to the max bid system. Just got outskilled.

[fervent granite]

I don't even bother with auctions anymore

i've been wronged too many times

[dawn cosmos]

Is the pc good? Kind of a bit late since I bought it.

[junior flax]

it’s ok

but wow i’m surprised u actually bought one 😭

thought it was gonna be endless questions

[dawn cosmos]

lol

[snow rover]

liquid cooler with a 5500

prebuilt activities

[lost fossil]

nah he selected the liquid cooler

he had box cooler and air cooler as available alternative options

saved -120 aud

[exotic patrol]

Yes

[dawn cosmos]

I still have time to change it

[lost fossil]

laptop xeon?

[cold elbow]

Yeah?

[lost fossil]

what the fuck

[cold elbow]

Intel even made 4 cores xeon

So i don't see why you are surprised

[lost fossil]

no i mean 4 core xeon is understandable

but a laptop xeon?

idk

[cold elbow]

How else they gonna charge you 4x more

[lost fossil]

[cold elbow]

Anyway im watching GN review of the 14600K

[lost fossil]

it's 1460/0 faster than other models

[cold elbow]

But number is higher

It's 1000 more

[chrome mirage]

Xeon is equivalent to what ?
Like i5 i7?

Sorry if I might sound dumb

[lost fossil]

xeon is not an equivalent, it's for servers

[wispy mesa]

Welp your 200 loss i guess lol

[dawn cosmos]

how

[wispy mesa]

its worse then what i suggested and costs more

[dawn cosmos]

The one you suggested costed 1.3K

[wispy mesa]

Yea because it was better lol

I didnt realise you picked the 6600

and 5500

[dawn cosmos]

I can just switch it

[wispy mesa]

na dont worry

[dawn cosmos]

I mean atleast it runs gta

[wispy mesa]

a $500 pc could run gta lol

you really shouldnt compare a pc to "run gta"

[dawn cosmos]

On high settings?

[wispy mesa]

probably not

[dawn cosmos]

Mk

[wispy mesa]

heres the PC you brought just in Umart
-1 the water cooler since a 5500 doesnt really need it

[dawn cosmos]

I mean the original price of the pc is 1,049

[wispy mesa]

yea this one has a better mobo

Oh well nvm, it doesnt actually say what mobo specifically

[toxic field]

Is this where I bring tech questions

[wispy mesa]

sure

wait

yes

[toxic field]

So I recently got a head seat mic from GameStop for $25 and I don’t understand how I can get people to hear me

It’s unmuted and the mic is plugged in

[lost fossil]

gamestop
the mic is probably broken

[dawn cosmos]

I mean is it atleast decent?

[toxic field]

Yea it looks nice

But damn did I fr get ripped off

[dawn cosmos]

oh I was talking to rai but ok lol

[toxic field]

I keep telling my co workers to make a discord so I can talk to them but they insist on leaving me out and not using it

[dawn cosmos]

I dont know much about GameStop

[toxic field]

Oh

My b

[lost fossil]

go to sound settings and tap the mic and see if it registers on the volume bar

if it doesn't register then smth is wrong with the mic

[toxic field]

Huh?

[lost fossil]

[toxic field]

It’s plugged into my controller

[lost fossil]

oh well iirc there's a menu in sound settings where you can adjust the volume
then you just slap the mic and see if the bar moves

[dawn cosmos]

I mean is the pc I got atleast decent for gta 5 or other games?

[toxic field]

Nothing in the manual about the mic

Sick

I hate technology

[wispy mesa]

maybe not future proof, but its a start

but what is future proof these days :/

[dawn cosmos]

Can’t I upgrade it later?

[wispy mesa]

yea, but i thought the whole point of you buying a prebuild is you didnt know how to build lol

[dawn cosmos]

Yeah but I’ll slowly learn.

[wispy mesa]

I would just buy the parts then n build it with youtube videos

[dawn cosmos]

Nah. I’ll just use it for now.

And if it starts to perform bad I’ll start switching it up

[exotic patrol]

You're really overlooking this most PCs will be able to run what you need and unless you want this PC to last for like 8 years just get that one you showed last @dawn cosmos

[dawn cosmos]

This?

[lost fossil]

that ozbargain pc that i posted would be a future proof option in this case

https://techfast.com.au/products/AMD-Ryzen-5-5600-RX-6700-XT-12GB-Gaming-Desktop-PC-October this one

[wispy mesa]

dayum thats cheap

ah but a520 mobo

[lost fossil]

doesn't matter

[wispy mesa]

Ah you can upgrade anyway

[lost fossil]

i mean, it does

but think about it

does it really in this situation

[wispy mesa]

guess not

but good to have

[cold elbow]

U guys might think that im a now but i started using Bing instead of Google.

[lost fossil]

that's a .7 ghz reduction

[fickle finch]

I believe you get rewards for using Bing right?

[pallid rune]

j

[cold elbow]

Idk but it made my work a lot easier

[fickle finch]

How does it make it easier?

[cold elbow]

I can actually find results for what im searching for instead of ads and irrelevant results

[fickle finch]

oh

Mel I'm going to do the CCNA exam

[cold elbow]

Cisco?

[fickle finch]

I am a pro at subnetting if your curious and no its the traditional method

yes

[cold elbow]

That's nice to have

[fickle finch]

no calculator

[wispy mesa]

counting with fingers i see

[fickle finch]

not really

[cold elbow]

Mikrotech also included?

[fickle finch]

?

[wispy mesa]

CCNA is cisco only

[fickle finch]

are you CCNA certified @wispy mesa ?

[wispy mesa]

Not yet, maybe in the future. My job didnt require it so i never did the exams

[fickle finch]

Im not only doing the exam just for the certificate I want the knowledge

[wispy mesa]

Ah ok yea fair enough.

[fickle finch]

Static/Dynamic Routing, NAT, DNS, DHCP, Port Security, VLAN, Inter-VLAN, Router-On-Stick, Cabling, Subnetting. This is what I currently know theory wise

It is only multiple choice and they require you to know how to do the configuration so Im weak in this, cabling and routing protocols

[wispy mesa]

Looks like a good list. Dynamic routing such as?

[fickle finch]

Your teaching your network who they can communicate with. They learn by themselves and is good for large networks

Static routing is your forcing the device to only communicate to what you assign it to which is good for security but bad for larger networks bec it takes time

[wispy mesa]

oh yes, but what does your knowledge know of?

ospf rip bgp?

[fickle finch]

Those routing protocols I dont get yet lol

RIPv2, OSPF

[wispy mesa]

Ah ye, well if you got any questions do ask here

[fickle finch]

Do you know jeremy?

[wispy mesa]

the courses on youtube?

[fickle finch]

I dont know if hes on youtube

[wispy mesa]

Let me find the playlist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8W9oMNSuwo&list=PLxbwE86jKRgMpuZuLBivzlM8s2Dk5lXBQ

[cold elbow]

I don't have ccna or mikro but i know all these lol

[fickle finch]

you can do the exam then

[cold elbow]

Yeah should probably do that

[fickle finch]

its 120 questions multiple choice 80% pass mark

[cold elbow]

But i don't see how it's gonna benefit me

[fickle finch]

oh your not networking focused

[cold elbow]

Nah im a designer engineer

[fickle finch]

IT architecture designer or?

I guess its good that you're aware of networking knowledge

[cold elbow]

HVAC designer now

[wispy mesa]

Is that mainly computer based? Or are you onsite working in a roof as well?

[fickle finch]

thats cool

oh your following the iso standard

I am familiar with ISO27001 for auditing IT security risks

ISO17024 for HVAC engineers

Man why haven't I been more active in this channel I am more familiar with these topics lol

[jade pivot]

that's cool and all, but can you calculate the latency for an average RFC 1149 implementation

[fickle finch]

I heard of RFC1149

I dont understand what it is but my mind is linking it to routing protocols

[jade pivot]

you could look it up, there's no hidden fees

[fickle finch]

bird joke?

[jade pivot]

wdym joke

[fickle finch]

IPoAC is a joke proposal to carry Internet Protocol (IP) traffic by birds such as homing pigeons.

[wispy mesa]

I think i read something about someone calculating it

[jade pivot]

ye, the average calculation uses an unladen swallow

[wispy mesa]

Cant find it. But it was some meme about calculating the mean ping time

[cold elbow]

No it's only office work

Just working on software and CAD

And of course lot of spreadsheets

[cold elbow]

Idk jumped into the job then learned it

[fickle finch]

im training to be a network security specialist

[cold elbow]

Security!!

Hmmm idk

[fickle finch]

yes

[cold elbow]

Network in general is fun

[fickle finch]

I wish I got into it sooner

[cold elbow]

But security sounds like responsibility

[cold elbow]

Do you have a home server yet?

[fickle finch]

You are required to be available even after work and on weekends in cybersecurity

you mean in the current company?

[cold elbow]

That's IT mostly

[fickle finch]

true tbh

[cold elbow]

I said "home" server

[fickle finch]

you could say that yes

Our WAP is functioning as a router, switch, firewall

[cold elbow]

[fickle finch]

I didnt set it up though

[cold elbow]

Build a home server then and learn from it

[fickle finch]

Will packet tracer help?

[jade pivot]

no

[fickle finch]

i thought you meant a home network

[jade pivot]

get an actual firewall to practice on

nothing beats experience

[fickle finch]

do you know fortinet?

firewall vendor

[jade pivot]

are they underrated

[fickle finch]

no very good

[jade pivot]

debatable

[cold elbow]

Server means a device that serves your computer/phone or whatever with data or information

[fickle finch]

so like a web server to retrieve web content?

I understand the OSI model and encapsulation as well

[cold elbow]

Now with a server you can do all kinds of things like backing up your data
Game servers
self hosted DNS
self hosted VPN
Media servers like plex
Or simply use it for virtual machines

[jade pivot]

what about the servers in a restaurant

[fickle finch]

I see

[cold elbow]

You can also host web pages on it i guess

[fickle finch]

DHCP too?

[jade pivot]

any device that offers a service can be classified as server

that includes dhcp, dns, whatever

[fickle finch]

I see ok

[cold elbow]

You can build your own router and let it have your DHCP yeah

[fickle finch]

So its like a storage of things or to offer something to a device

[jade pivot]

that's pretty much the basics of server/client relationship

[fickle finch]

Bro I didnt know that a switch can function as a router

Layer 3 switching right

[cold elbow]

Technically it cant

[fickle finch]

oh?

[jade pivot]

better sit down then, because you can route with a windows server as well

[cold elbow]

If it has router function then it's a router not a switch

[jade pivot]

not really, look up l3 switches

[cold elbow]

I wanna keep it simple

There's exceptions for a lot of things

[fickle finch]

ill take any info or tips

[jade pivot]

it's not an exception tho, they just switch ip based instead of mac

and they're way faster than routers in doing so

they're just limited in additional l3 functionality

[fickle finch]

I learned that access control lists are a stateless type of firewall

meaning the router can be configured to block certain ports/traffic from entering the network but it doesnt learn and remember what it has blocked whereas a firewall is stateful meaning its more secure because it remembers and learns from blocking sus traffic

FortiGate is a type of stateful firewall software from fortinet

they have a FortiSIEM so they can record logs of policy violatons of firewalls

I also learned about web content filtering, SSL VPN config for users and IPSec

[jade pivot]

stateful just means, the firewall tracks connections as opposed to basic allow/deny based on headers

[fickle finch]

I apologise for flooding the chat I just get too excited talking about this lol

[fickle finch]

yes! i remember seeing that it remembers the network connections made it keeps a "state table" something along those lines

[wispy mesa]

Go to like facebook marketplace or ebay and buy a cheap sg200 gigabit managed switch and a sg300 n connect n try then out

[fickle finch]

I can create a home server with packet tracer but only having it function as DHCP, DNS

Unless theres more i dont know of yet

[wispy mesa]

Should be able to get them for less than 100

[wispy mesa]

By home server we mean real hardware

[fickle finch]

Oh I see

[wispy mesa]

Ignore the cat

[fickle finch]

dam

[wispy mesa]

But theres my room rack

With 2 servers

[fickle finch]

So like what did you have it do

[jade pivot]

nice server speakers

[wispy mesa]

Thats not a bad idea

I might see if i can find some lol

[fickle finch]

lol

[wispy mesa]

They host my dns, home assistant, omada controller, and a bunch of other vms/containers

[fickle finch]

Virtual machines?

like vmware?

[wispy mesa]

Yes

Proxmox

[jade pivot]

dont even need a firewall to play around, they exist as vms too

[fickle finch]

i see

[wispy mesa]

Yea pfsense

[jade pivot]

just a switch and server

[wispy mesa]

Yup

[jade pivot]

multiple eth ports are nice to have, but you can just vlan the shit out of one interface for homelabbing

[wispy mesa]

Oh yea 100%

Even just bridging bridges

[fickle finch]

did you actually configure them via putty?

[wispy mesa]

Servers have web interfaces

[fickle finch]

virtual interfaces?

[wispy mesa]

Switch is SDN up here

[wispy mesa]

Web browser control

1 sec

[fickle finch]

Oh its from a website so you put your server info and edited it through this website

so its like a web based CLI?

[jade pivot]

putty and shitty usb to serial converters are a thing of the past

[fickle finch]

they still use it here bro we old school

lol

I guess for security reasons? Unless you know more

[wispy mesa]

Bad picture because iphone

But you managed everything via a gui

[fickle finch]

thats sick

[wispy mesa]

But yea, i got 2 switches just laying in my cupboard lol

[fickle finch]

you could create a vlan no but for what purpose

[wispy mesa]

Hmm?

[fickle finch]

My understanding of vlan is connecting 2 switches together via trunk port

so 2 departments can communicate with each other?

or its to allow more port usability to allow more computers to be able to be connected

[wispy mesa]

A switch can have up to 4096 vlans

[fickle finch]

wtf

[wispy mesa]

Each port can be assigned to be ACCESS on a specific vlan the device connected to that port is in that vlan

Devices on the same vlan can talk

[fickle finch]

so lets say

port 1 blue, port 2 red and they are in a vlan. Port 1 can only communicate with Port 1 from the other switch?

[wispy mesa]

You can use a trunking port to connect switchs/routers

[wispy mesa]

Yes, but big no

[fickle finch]

oh

[wispy mesa]

Yea because you could have them in the same vlan, but you can have any amount of ports on a vlan

Really hard to type on phone lol

[fickle finch]

you know the ps2 controller extension thing?

[wispy mesa]

Ps/2 the port?

[fickle finch]

i got the concept of vlan from that

PS2 the console

[wispy mesa]

Oh the splitter thong

Thing

[fickle finch]

yea

[wispy mesa]

Hmm not really

A vlan is just a virtual lan

[fickle finch]

lol i tho it was funny

yep

[jade pivot]

you can stick as many vlans on a port as the spec allows

unless you're talking about port based, but that's old stuff

[fickle finch]

my company is sticking to the older ones I think due to security reasons

[wispy mesa]

Which spec?

[fickle finch]

Guys in terms of our discussion do you think I have the base knowledge to do the CCNA exam?

[jade pivot]

802.1Q

[fickle finch]

Im confident in IPV4 subnetting

[wispy mesa]

Yea but an access port cant have multiple vlans

[jade pivot]

huh?

[wispy mesa]

Which bit

[jade pivot]

i can tag a port with however many vlans i fancy

[fickle finch]

Oh yea what is this port tagging?

[wispy mesa]

A trunk port yes

[fickle finch]

when people say port tag are they referring to VLANs?

[wispy mesa]

But im talking about a untagged port

[wispy mesa]

Yes tagged meaning trunking, untagged meaning access

[fickle finch]

i see

[jade pivot]

i can have tagged and untagged on the same port tho

take your average ip phone

[wispy mesa]

That’s different but yes

[jade pivot]

there's still multiple vlans defined on a port

[wispy mesa]

Yes, but the ip phone deals with turning the conputer connected to be a untagged port

But its overall still just a tagged port, with 2 vlans

Rather then straight to an end device

My hands are hurting so much lmao

[sour marsh]

https://youtu.be/Ln4rsxWq3WM?si=2BEOtlRDsHbDEx28

Today I learned something new

[wispy mesa]

Oof

[wispy mesa]

Close but still a bit to understand i think

[jade pivot]

trunking nomenclature is a bit of a cisco thing

other vendors like aruba just tag/untag, there's no separate differentiation between trunk/access port

if you talk about trunk, it's usually combining ports static or lacp

[wispy mesa]

:/ so wheres the encapsulation then

[jade pivot]

what encapsulation

[wispy mesa]

.1q frames

[jade pivot]

vlan tagging is 2 bits in the headers, there's no encapsulation

*12 bits

[wispy mesa]

Yea bad name but the tagged ports still need to know they’re tagged

[jade pivot]

yes, your out of the box experience is untagged management vlan on all ports

[wispy mesa]

We probably have different names for things but when i say trunk i mean tagged as the exact same things

[jade pivot]

cisco trunk is oldschool for uplinks with multiple tagged and the rest untagged for whatever end devices

[wispy mesa]

Yes but thats how it is still today, tagged being for vlans moving to other network devices with the same vlans

[jade pivot]

except for ip phones, radius, etc

[wispy mesa]

Well yea ip phones listen to tagged traffic and pass untagged

[jade pivot]

usually your ip phone is on a different vlan than the end device behind it

because ip phones suck and talk too much

[wispy mesa]

Yes

[jade pivot]

so again, there's 2 vlans on your "access port"

[wispy mesa]

Technically 1 being the voip traffic and then 1 but not really tagged as a vlan traffic for the end device

[jade pivot]

untagged just means the tag vanishes on egress, it still gets tagged ingress

there's no packets floating around the switch without tags

[wispy mesa]

Yes i know

[fickle finch]

I didnt know that the subnet mask separates the IP Address to two parts to identify the endpoint and network

My IPV4 subnetting method is through decimal to binary conversion and binary to decimal conversion, reserving the bits for subnet mask, getting the increment then finding the network ranges

[wispy mesa]

Vlsm

[fickle finch]

Subnetting for networks and hosts

Yep

this one I understand very well

[wispy mesa]

👍

Its 1am i better sleep

[fickle finch]

gn and thanks for the help

[wispy mesa]

Hmm but do i want to sleep

[fickle finch]

I gotta sleep soon™️

[wispy mesa]

What time?

[fickle finch]

im tired to think im glad today I reviewed what I know and what I need to understand.

[wispy mesa]

Welp gn dm if you need help with anything

[teal tartan]

ojj

ojj

[ionic epoch]

2+3=5

[agile siren]

on Awaya Switches i have seen where you can assign multiple VLANs on a port without tagging them. then set a PVID value for that port to the vlan ID you want port to actively participate in. so technically that port is part of multiple VLANs (untagged) but only active on one.

same tech but soo many different ways to implement on different vendors.. that's networking for you.

[jade pivot]

PVID is a can of worms that varies wildly between switch vendors, it's how you define the vlan for ingress untagged frames while preserving tags on tagged frames

[agile siren]

"preserving tags on tagged frames" hmm.. in my experience, the Awaya switches i worked with, had some ports with multiple vlans set on them with a PVID but they were not really set to "Tag" anything. only ports tagging were the uplinks.

how many vendors have you seen so far using this "PVID" thingy?

[jade pivot]

PVIDs are in the spec, every vendor implements them somehow

[agile siren]

U mean spec for VLANs or someting?

[jade pivot]

yes

[agile siren]

ohh interesting. soo.. Cisco somehow just hides them?

Access and Trunk!

[jade pivot]

no, it just gets set automatically when you untag a port

[agile siren]

hmm.. i see.

[jade pivot]

because having different untagged vlans egress and ingress is just silly

[agile siren]

yeah ofc.

[jade pivot]

on aruba you need to define the pvid

[cold elbow]

Nerds

[jade pivot]

shush

[agile siren]

hmm.. i did worked on 1 aruba switch. dont remember which one but it didnt had any cli, ony a web UI and i didnt saw any PVID anywhere.

plus a "Trunk" on Aruba is Link aggregation. initially, i was sooo confused because of that word.

though it was Tagging but nope.

[jade pivot]

trunk and access are cisco terms to feel special

[agile siren]

yeah i figured it out over time.

Well thanks for the Info.

[jade pivot]

sure, np

[agile siren]

have my ENARSI Exam in 7 days... 😬 😓 👀

[jade pivot]

idk what that is but good luck

[agile siren]

for CCNP

one of the 2 exmas you need to pass for CCNP.

[jade pivot]

go for CCIE instead

get hired to fuck around all day

[agile siren]

yeah i do plan to.

only problem is. getting hands on DNAC.

[jade pivot]

because companies need to employ a certain amount of CCIE holders to get maximum benefits on hardware

[agile siren]

yeah dont they get a heavy discount on hardware?

[jade pivot]

yes

[agile siren]

and lots of Cisco learning credits?

[jade pivot]

it's mostly about the hardware

[agile siren]

i see.

[fickle finch]

@jade pivot @wispy mesa I bought udemy course from niel anderson and going to combine it with jeremy IT lab from youtube

I already built a base foundation of knowledge with CBT nuggets for the past month

now I will strengthen the knowledge with niel anderson's course combined with jeremy IT lab as a backup

I scouted the reddit network communities and these guys are the gold standards to get the knowledge for the exam

[wispy mesa]

I wouldn’t buy any courses unless you getting a certificate, you can find everything online for free

[fickle finch]

it wasnt expensive

[lost fossil]

but it was still money outta your pocket

[fickle finch]

lol

[agile siren]

you aiming for CCNA?

[fickle finch]

yes

im working as a network security specialist though and they will consider hiring me if I get CCNA

[agile siren]

if you can, i would recomend also going through Pluralsight's CCNA course. its not enough to pass but its a very visual course and will set you up with a good foundation. on top of that, use the courses you bought + jeremy IT lab. Also Boson ExSim also helps a lot.

[fickle finch]

alot in reddit say boson tests helped them alot

[agile siren]

And... Join Jeremie's Discord.

[fickle finch]

the guy from cbt nuggets?

[agile siren]

lots of help available there.

No jeremy IT lab.

[fickle finch]

ah

alot of people told me to buy the exam questions so once I have a strong knowledge then ill buy the questions to practise

[agile siren]

it did, helped me a lot.

[fickle finch]

oh

[agile siren]

exactly what i did.

[fickle finch]

i did get the experience to see certified ethical hackers do penetration testing on web applications, networks but I mostly enjoyed protecting the network

Its just what my brain is wired to like I guess lol

I also got to see soc analysts response to cyber incidents

[agile siren]

Well. everyone got their own thing they are good at. since i discovered networking. i just cant stop learning more about it 😄

[fickle finch]

we're in the same boat

[agile siren]

Currently aiming for get my CCNP done by next week.

[fickle finch]

people told me to do that after ccna

I guess its more advanced and there's switch,router configs to do?

[agile siren]

Well.. that's the logical step if you wana continue networking or you can branch out after ccna and do other IT things.

did my msg just got deleted?

[agile siren]

yes!! lots of it.

[gloomy wren]

GYAAAT

[junior flax]

i pray for internet like this every day but my parents will never upgrade

[exotic patrol]

What speeds you got @junior flax

[junior flax]

on my pc like 30 😭

cos my dad refuses to let me run an ethernet cable to my room

on my xbox more like 80

basically what i get on my pc

[jade pivot]

check out powerline adapters

[supple walrus]

Damn

had an ethernet port put into the wall in my room, which was nice

[junior flax]

ye i’m waiting till i get paid to buy one as i’m broke rn 😭

[supple walrus]

ran the cable through the electrical cavity

[junior flax]

i asked for that when my room was being build but my dad “didn’t want holes in wall” as it was a new extension

[supple walrus]

makes no sense

[junior flax]

fr

[supple walrus]

you can just run them parallel to power walls

and have the cables in the same cavity

[junior flax]

i told him ask the electrician to do it as we had one in and he just dodged all the time

[junior flax]

fr

it’s stupid but is what it is ig

[supple walrus]

tbh unless your property has FTTP ethernet wouldn't make all that much difference

what suburb, I'll check for you @junior flax

[junior flax]

wdym

[supple walrus]

(I'm Australian - ik nbn is shit lmao)

[junior flax]

i’m england

[supple walrus]

huh

i saw shit internet

assumed Aus

lul

[junior flax]

LMAO

no my dad has sky internet which also provides tv and it’s ASS

it’s the main thing keeping the uk back

but he refuses to swap cos he watches tv

[supple walrus]

but yeah you should be able to check somehow

without fibre to the property ethernet won't make much difference

[junior flax]

idk if it’s fibre i think the only fibre we got on our street was supplied by virgin media

as they did it like a year or 2 ago

i’m my old room i did have ethernet and got like 100mbps but now less

[supple walrus]

check here @junior flax https://www.sky.com/broadband/buy?irct=fttp-hero-prospect

[gloomy wren]

Jesus

Bro can only run tetris

[junior flax]

what?

i play everything including competitive games 💀

[gloomy wren]

Tetris?

It was a joke, but how can u run games with those speeds lol

[junior flax]

speed ≠ ping

[gloomy wren]

What is ping then?

Or better question

What defines ping

[junior flax]

how long it takes ur message to reach the server

for example how long it takes for a gun shoot input to get from your computer to the game server

not how much u can upload

[jade pivot]

the amount of data for your average multiplayer game is in the kbps range, dont need fiber to play counterstrike

[junior flax]

ye

@wind elm

[jade pivot]

you just pinged some dude

[junior flax]

🫠

<@&337442104026595329>

[junior flax]

shhhhh

thanks whatever staff deleted it

[waxen viper]

does anyone know what can make my cpu hot

[rapid lake]

Not putting enough thermal paste/bad coverage

And/or not enough airflow in your case

[quartz kayak]

Depends in if its suposed to be hot or not

[rose yacht]

with this sacred treasure i summon @ionic lodge

(help idk if this is real or not)

[lost fossil]

[ionic lodge]

damn I really forgot this channel existed.

[lost fossil]

[jade pivot]

you have intruded in oreos domain

tradition demands a sacrifice

[quartz kayak]

I want to be olegs sacrifice

[sour marsh]

So oleg owns 2 channels?

[jade pivot]

my lips are sealed

[sour marsh]

Hmm

[jade pivot]

[sour marsh]

So then technically I would own #other-games

If the metrics are correct

[jade pivot]

you could claim pets and food too

[sour marsh]

#food is Omar's

That's no discussion

[cold elbow]

Block the vents

Did that after replacing my paste

[waxen viper]

i mean i think its a little bit too hot and idk how to make it cooler

[cold elbow]

Ok so

Don't block the vents

[jade pivot]

you want to talk in numbers, not feelings

[waxen viper]

how hot is my cpu supposed to be if im not playing anything

[jade pivot]

the temp under load and max temp varies by CPU

[cold elbow]

About average +20

[waxen viper]

core 1# 83°c
core 2# 81°c

[jade pivot]

all of those can be found in the tech specs

[waxen viper]

is this too hot

[jade pivot]

.

[cold elbow]

Is it a laptop

[waxen viper]

its an i3 3rd generation on a laptop

[cold elbow]

Then its fine

[waxen viper]

not under any load

[cold elbow]

Oh

[jade pivot]

probably full of dust and cracked paste

[cold elbow]

Yeah

[waxen viper]

prolly

[jade pivot]

80 is not a good temp for idling

[cold elbow]

Also probably throttling

[jade pivot]

unless you surf in the desert or sth

[waxen viper]

thats too bad

[supple walrus]

holefuk

my laptop idles at like

40

laptop

[waxen viper]

jesus

how

[jade pivot]

you might be able to open it up and clean if you google your laptop tech manual

[waxen viper]

ima at 80

[supple walrus]

one, asus actually fixed the cooling on the 2022 model
two
uhh

[cold elbow]

how

[supple walrus]

fix your cooling

[cold elbow]

After telling em what's wrong with it

[supple walrus]

speaking of

reminds me i need to open up my laptop again sometime and clean it

fans are getting a bit too loud for my liking

[jade pivot]

remove the fans

[supple walrus]

They're usually quiet, they're probably just full of dust

havent been cleaned in like

[sour marsh]

I haven't done my yearly deepclean on my PC yet

[supple walrus]

6 months

[jade pivot]

if you need to clean your laptop every 6 months, might want to vacuum your room instead

[supple walrus]

i mean i say 'loud'

[supple walrus]

I'm not saying I need to, i'm just saying that might be the cause lol

might aswell check

• this laptop gets moved a lot, most of the dust probably isn't from my room

probably from school or w/e

[junior flax]

<@&337442104026595329>

2 more 🙄

[gaunt granite]

!ban 254296696576671744 harmful links

[craggy thicket]

Banned skiv1231#0 (Case #221009) (user notified with a direct message)

[junior flax]

thxxxx

[gaunt granite]

!ban 649671349345976332 harmful links

[craggy thicket]

Banned echopongcorkscrewyt#0 (Case #221010) (user notified with a direct message)

[small mural]

!ban 649671349345976332 phishing

[craggy thicket]

⚠ User is already banned indefinitely.

[small mural]

shit

[junior flax]

sorry for pinging all of u but better then ppl falling for it

[sour marsh]

time to update the filter

[gaunt granite]

100% valid staff ping

[small mural]

thanks alec

[sour marsh]

ok this should no longer happen

[fickle finch]

@cold elbow Im studying for ccna

the course from udemy is pog it has flashcards, study material, videos, questions about every lecture and ccna exam questions (mock exam) for 7 dollars (equivalent here)

I plan to buy my own rack, switch, router, firewall, server and ethernet cables

We already have a modem setup so I wonder how I'd get its cable connected to my network

[jade pivot]

this might be tough to follow, but

you take a regular eth cable and plug it into both routers

[spiral jasper]

What happened here?

2 people banned?

[cold elbow]

this is why i told you to make your own server... it sometimes can be done for free and you will learn lots from it

[fickle finch]

oh

[lost fossil]

rack, switch, router, firewall, server and ethernet cables
or
rack, used 4 port network card, server and ethernet cables

[cold elbow]

idk why you need a rack tho

carboard box works

[lost fossil]

to put more stuff in it later

[cold elbow]

add more cardboard boxes

[lost fossil]

to make it look expensive

it's premium cardboard time

[cold elbow]

tbh i like these small wall mounted racks

https://images.thdstatic.com/productImages/bbdcb6a7-b4eb-41a2-b7dd-40e1491f5102/svn/mount-it-networking-tools-mi-7633-4f_600.jpg

people never fail to amaze me https://i.redd.it/my-cardboard-rpi-server-rack-case-v0-x1q5hkx9jpx81.jpg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=588556206ac8895498c33b7b5373714bb9c4d693

[jade pivot]

There are smol racks as well

And you could always just buy the rails for a few bucks and mgcuyver them together

[cold elbow]

zipties

like no one saw it coming

dude cooling them straight up with the pool loop

wow "pool loop" is just the same word backwards

[rose yacht]

Backfiring on linus eh?

[jade pivot]

Linus being an entertainment hack? Colour me surprised

[cold elbow]

thing is

he said it would be fine on the wan show

[lost fossil]

in the introduction part of the video he listed things that you'd not expect to fail in a million years

[quartz kayak]

Poo lpool

Poo llopo

[spiral jasper]

Fuck it

I'm gonna make the ugliest pc ever

But with good performance

[jade pivot]

so, alienware?

[cold elbow]

they said good performance

[quartz kayak]

He also said make

[jade pivot]

the performance isnt shit, it's just hella overpriced

[quartz kayak]

Doesnt that mean it is shit then

[jade pivot]

if you go by cost/benefit yes, but that wasnt the question

[cold elbow]

fish fish fish fish

[cold elbow]

half

[jade pivot]

that's a big spoon

[quartz kayak]

Its just a smol car

[jade pivot]

that's a big phone

[spiral jasper]

Oh that is a good idea

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JBxkfy

Sacrificed some performance for vomit looking parts

🤑

[quartz kayak]

Not even

Look at that cpu cooler 😭

The fan i have on my room probably cools better and it was 18€

[rose yacht]

buy an aio 😭

[cold elbow]

i dont wanna be harsh but that's a very bad investment in the scope of performance

the best way it getting the best price to performance
like that card is just too expensive for what you get out of it
overkill power supply????
shit motherboard and what is the deal with that tiny ass cooler?

wait

[spiral jasper]

...

[cold elbow]

that powersupply looks like a bomb

[spiral jasper]

I guess you all miss the point of what I was doing

[spiral jasper]

.

[cold elbow]

u failed at that

[spiral jasper]

Of course

Pcpartpicker just doesn't have the good stuff

Aliexpress on the other hand

[cold elbow]

its gonna blow up the moment you start it

[spiral jasper]

The psu just gotta tug it out I guess

[cold elbow]

and you need a blower style gpu

[spiral jasper]

A what?

[cold elbow]

no heatsink ram

some alien case

[spiral jasper]

Those look somewhat ok

Bro what is this

[cold elbow]

kinda cool for a specific builds

[quartz kayak]

Wdym "what is this" its obviously a graphics car

[spiral jasper]

Army gpu

[cold elbow]

graphics car

[quartz kayak]

[cold elbow]

[lost fossil]

it's a good cooler tho

copper heatsink

more thermal mass

[quartz kayak]

Not for the price

[quartz kayak]

What do i do about this

Its making me lose my sanity

It doesnt TURN OFF

[spiral jasper]

Shoot it

[snow rover]

have you heard of electrical tape

[jade pivot]

it's kinda nonsensical to call it electrical tape if it's not conductive

[agile siren]

All you need for CCNA is Cisco Packet tracer. it will run just fine on a modern day patato.

[quartz kayak]

Ion have any

[snow rover]

get real

[quartz kayak]

Gime your electric tape

[plush bane]

@brave field i ordered 32gb 2x16 kit of kingston fury so ill let you know if that fixes my problems🙏🏾

[exotic patrol]

What Gaming PC would be good for a beginner in 2023 while having it last for atleast 5 years

I'm not asking this for me personally but I'm just wondering

I'm assuming pre-builts are obviously out of the question

[cold elbow]

if you have the last secret shopper video that linus made... some pre builds are actually fine

[rose yacht]

for what kind of purpose?

gaming? work? just browsing the internet?

[exotic patrol]

I said gaming pc

It's primarily focused on gaming so

[rose yacht]

oh i didnt read mb

any budget?

[sour marsh]

I don't get why we gotta show how we change the equation of Motion

[rose yacht]

stupid rules ig

[sour marsh]

Yeah

I am just gonna look up how you convert them and use it

[cold elbow]

Teaching you how you drive a formula

[cold elbow]

https://youtu.be/GfH8eNKb4eg

this is soooooooooo cool

[snow rover]

no

[lost fossil]

[cold elbow]

[rapid lake]

So every time you want to use it you need to write the initial equation?

[sour marsh]

Yes

[rapid lake]

Yeah we do that too but it’s not necessary

[sour marsh]

And then like cross out and divide/multiply to move it

Or subtract/add depends

It's very dumb imo

[rapid lake]

Don’t tell me you need to derive the equations from one another too every single time

[sour marsh]

Like ok I wanna find "a" in here, I have start with:

v=v0+at
t/v=v0+at/t
t/v=v0+a
v-v0/t=a

But then I have to write it correctly

[cold elbow]

We only write it if they ask for it

[rapid lake]

That is utterly dumb

[sour marsh]

Which is a=v-v0/t

[cold elbow]

They literally give us paper with all equations

[sour marsh]

I wish they did that here

I waste MORE time debunking how to change the equation rather than solving the problem

[rapid lake]

It’s simple enough to just chuck the term you want to one side in this case "a" and the other terms past the "=" in one step than to risk making mistakes in three steps

Not to mention you should just memorise it through practice

[cold elbow]

Memorizing equations is stupid imo

[rapid lake]

Also dividing by t first before moving the v0 is like kinda dumb

[cold elbow]

An engineer should use all avaliable resources to solve an issue

We have some open book exams even

[rapid lake]

Well, that’s not exactly what I meant

[sour marsh]

You divide/multiply first... what's the issue?

[rapid lake]

Leave the coefficient till the end

Then divide everything

[quartz kayak]

i hate math

my head hurts and i ve not even readed any of what was said

[rapid lake]

With bigger equations it would make more sense

[sour marsh]

Hmm noted

Though I am likely just gonna use the screenshot I sent since that helps more

[rapid lake]

In the second example given the equation is bigger and there are second degree terms, first they deducted (s-v0) then divided by the coefficient (1/2t^2)

That’s how I was taught to do it

[sour marsh]

To be fair I haven't touched going after anything with power of two or 1/2 in fractions

Or Square root for that matter

Physics I guess

[rapid lake]

Ngl I only ever struggled with physics because my math was too weak

And when you don’t know the math you’re gonna have a bad time with physics

Speaking from experience

[supple walrus]

I mean yeah

Because physics is essentially applied maths

[jovial tide]

@cold elbow Undead cursed PC moment as usual

[spiral jasper]

Yeesh

[quartz kayak]

https://youtube.com/shorts/UkxgHdavdBo?si=EzOzhk8Ce9_vwuBD

?????

@jade pivot

The keys mean that secure boot is suposedly enabled

But

Val say it isnt

[raven axle]

restart computer

[quartz kayak]

I have restarted twice :3

[raven axle]

deactivate safe boot and activate it again

[quartz kayak]

Nothing will hapen

Silly goober

[raven axle]

figure it out

im waiting

[quartz kayak]

i cant

its hard

i think im suposed to save everything and delete my drive

[jade pivot]

does it say enabled in the settings

[quartz kayak]

and do the thing

ye

[jade pivot]

no, dont delete anything

if it says enabled, it's enabled

goober

[quartz kayak]

YEAH I KNWO
\

[jade pivot]

so your vanguard whatever has an issue

[quartz kayak]

a

AAAAAAAAA

[jade pivot]

where did you find that

[quartz kayak]

WOOOOOO

[quartz kayak]

msinfo

lol

[jade pivot]

[fervent granite]

imagine playing a game that checks for secure boot

[jovial tide]

Ikr, that's exactly what I said

[quartz kayak]

Valirant

[brave field]

why do I keep putting myself through this

biennial update day, sure, update windows, chipset, and GPU drivers

re-disable startup services, re-hide search bar, re-delete edge shortcut, re-set lock screen image, re-opt-out of sending keystrokes, disable news and interests, bye bye cortana, shutup xbox app, blah blah
Where's my enhancements tab gone for my audio devices? Disabling driver updates from WU does nothing, I guess.
I feel like I shouldn't have to ask if the PrintNightmare, smb2, and eternalblue patches were worth it.

[jovial tide]

Anyone here have any expertise with Blender?

[rose yacht]

Barely some

[junior flax]

ask ur question and what u need help with!!!!!

[lost fossil]

[jade pivot]

oreo

[quartz kayak]

oreo :THIS:

[jovial tide]

I'm asking if anyone has experience so I don't waste my time asking a question that no one here has an answer to.

But since you insist, I'm trying to use Blender to port a source map to Unity. How can I do that

[chrome mirage]

which one is better?
Redgear Pro (Wireless) vs Cosmicbyte Ares (Wireless)

for PC

tag me while replying, so that I'll get notification

[snow rover]

the what now

[quartz kayak]

The

[lost fossil]

a gaming headset or an other gaming headset

[snow rover]

are you sure about that

[quartz kayak]

Never heard about any of them so they are both poo probably

[snow rover]

so true!!

[lost fossil]

in that case, a gaming mouse or an other gaming mouse

[jade pivot]

I think the question is if wireless is better than wireless

But idk anything bout that

[cold elbow]

Buy cloud 2

[snow rover]

no

[cold elbow]

Oh i annoyed an audio nerd

Cant wait for you to suggest a budget 350$ headset

[snow rover]

audeze maxwell

[jade pivot]

Cant be an audio nerd without gold plated fiberglass connectors

[snow rover]

look at me

nickel plated connectors

not a nerd, certified

[jade pivot]

Nickel is for plebs

Gold is better because

Uhh

[snow rover]

it looks cool

[jade pivot]

Natural antivirus

[lost fossil]

[snow rover]

gold plated toslink cables are peak audiophool though

makes it sound richer

[jade pivot]

gold is a scam

[lost fossil]

audiofool sounds about right

[junior flax]

i wonder do most users actually pay for anti viruses anymore

like mcafee n shit

i stopped years ago once i realised windows defender+ common sense was good enough

[lost fossil]

it makes perfect sense

those without common sense would buy mcafee to compensate

though with mcafee it would be a bad attempt to compensate but that's why it makes even more sense

[junior flax]

lol

[jade pivot]

Defender is really good nowadays

But most important is sth like ublock

[junior flax]

ye i realised that after like win 7 it’s enough

[jade pivot]

Since like 90% are drive-by website infections

[junior flax]

ye

[fervent granite]

more like 99% of it being caused by not having common sense