tech-coding-math

[nova steppe]

Ah

[lost fossil]

slim chance but if that bad monitor has an external power supply, what if the power supply is making it act up

my monitor at work started flickering terribly and it turned out to be the power supply, since it was external i was able to just go buy a universal laptop charger

my other monitor of the same model had its power supply run so hot that the plastic shell melted in a couple places replaced that one with a laptop charger too

[cold elbow]

I run my mini fridge with a laptop charger

[flint viper]

Idk if it’s the power supply. It’s still very cold. I do know that it has gotten exponentially worse tho. It went from happening every 2 days to happening every 20 minutes.

I still wanted a newer monitor anyway

I’ll keep the old monitor for now and test out a different power supplies later.

[snow rover]

i want a phone this size with flagship specs

[rose yacht]

its going to last you like 30m

with flagship specs needing more power

[cold elbow]

i want a honda civic with a V12

[jade pivot]

99% of the battery consumption is still the display, smol phone is doable

it's just that nobody wants smol nowadays

[rose yacht]

and i want a fiat 500 with a twin turbo, cold air intake and a v8

[sacred loom]

That’s what she said

[quartz kayak]

Why

Have you gotten a case for ur phone yet

[snow rover]

no

[jovial tide]

anyone that knows how to stop apps poping up when i turn my laptop on?

[quartz kayak]

press windows key and write "startup apps" then press enter

turn off whatever u dont want

some apps like steam might need you to do that on the in app settings tho

[jovial tide]

thanks alot

[quartz kayak]

🫂

[jade pivot]

can do that in the task manager nowadays

[brave field]

They don't show the same programs sometimes, so check both

[ruby loom]

O

[junior flax]

i was looking at a local computer companies website they also make prebuilts and this is the funniest shit ive saw all week

sneaker pc build

hahah

[brave field]

just outstanding

I'll take two

[snow rover]

that's surprisingly reasonably priced for a shoe looking ass pc

[junior flax]

lmao

who actually buys these kind of bullshit builds lmao

[jade pivot]

ltt subscribers

[obsidian locust]

Hey guys, looking to upgrade my laptop memory and would like to know which option is best. 2x 8gb ddr4 or 16gb+4gb?

[nova steppe]

check what max speed and capacity your laptop('s CPU) supports and just get a 2 stick set. Better to have more stability than more capacity methinks

[jovial tide]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JDbrWmlqMw&ab_channel=GamersNexus

[cold elbow]

Somehow a well optimized game from them and you get FSR so all gamers can use it.... it all makes sense.

They need to work on the map tho and few other tiny things.

Man a lot of cool games dropping this year

[jovial tide]

Me personally am running into a bunch of fps issues...idk why, but it's cutting my fps off randomly and I have no clue why

[cold elbow]

What cpu you have?

[jovial tide]

And am once again faced with the realization I need to tweak the game files just to alter my fov.....

[jovial tide]

Ryzen 5 3600

And I already know it's not my PC. It was perfectly fine at 90fps then all of a sudden cut my fps off

[cold elbow]

Start with monitoring every part of your pc in a crowded area

[jovial tide]

I paused the game, checked something, tabbed back in and unpaused and it cut my fps

[cold elbow]

Oh

Well it will get some hotfixes for sure but overall people reporting good optimization
Except ARC

Also we cant judge now since the game is yet to officially release

[lilac heath]

Rtx 3080 barely getting 60 fps at 1080p Ultra

No upscaling

[jovial tide]

@cold elbow In case you're curious, I clipped my exact issue.

[cold elbow]

This only happens if you change something in the graphics settings? I noticed your gpu peaking to 99% which might mean it's reloading texture or shaders because you changed something about them

Anyway, it looks like something that they can fix later.

On the wan show they complained about the graphics menu like being a bit confusing or lacking some features.

[jovial tide]

There's no Anti-Aliasing option as far as I can see either

[lilac heath]

Maybe restart the game after changing graphic settings

[jovial tide]

I have a friend who says they have an LTT member who can run the game near high pretty well on a 6600. They're gunna contact them and see if they can get their preset. Kinda trying everything to get this above 60

Low with this game though is just quite unbearable

[lilac heath]

Better to play it on Series X instead of going through the hassle of fixing it

[jovial tide]

I mean yeah, but 30fps lock is kinda dreadful

Especially on a game like this

[lilac heath]

True but atleast graphics are good on Xbox

And there are no fps drop

[cold elbow]

You guys gonna remember that modding is big for Bethesda games so there will be a lot of them to improve everything
There's already a lot of mods out there lol... like mods to reduce picking up stuff input lag

[lilac heath]

There are already like 60+ mods

[cold elbow]

Some dude allegedly added dlss

[lilac heath]

Within 12 hrs of release

[jovial tide]

And it's cool that modding is big for bethesda games, but it's very annoying to have to download mods to fix very miniscule things....

[lilac heath]

Yea DLSS 3.5 looks better than FSR

[cold elbow]

Welcome to project zomboid

[jovial tide]

Fov? Mod. Perfomance tweaks? Mod.

Fov in this age should literally just be a simple slider

[cold elbow]

I think developers gonna appreciate the mods feedback and fix the game with time.

[lilac heath]

Maybe

[cold elbow]

Not always "fix" but tweak to what people liked

[jovial tide]

Gunna try this ini file and see if it's just placebo, or if it really does help.

[cold elbow]

Kinda cool tbh (not mine)

[jovial tide]

Could just be me, but I notice no difference with this ini tweak

[cold elbow]

You gpu is pegged

[jovial tide]

I was told it'd be the opposite

more cpu than gpu

[cold elbow]

Oh

[jovial tide]

Idk tbh. it's either I bare through this, or just refund and wait

[cold elbow]

So if you buy it later

It's gonna be cheaper right?

[jovial tide]

Probably. Or just play for free on xbox. But then obviously 30fps cap

[cold elbow]

Or modding

[jovial tide]

To uncap console framerate? is that even possible?

[cold elbow]

No i mean on xbox u wont get more fps or the ability to use mods

Knowing you with cp77 and a lot of other games
You love modding

[jovial tide]

I mean at this point what's the point in worrying about mods, if the game itself barely runs

Like sure, optimization mods, but right now it's just people making ini tweaks and calling them "mods"

Or if I want the big fps boost, play in this garbled mess

[quartz kayak]

@snow rover

Only actual down side is the storage

But 150 is so worth it for a flagship phone that works flawlessly

[cold elbow]

If you feel it's unplayable for you now then maybe refund and buy it when it meets your standards

[cold elbow]

Omg @jovial tide the AMD starfield edition GPU looks soooo freaking cool 😭

[jovial tide]

Whats it look like

[sharp idol]

Would not recommend buying that, can easily get worse on its own without any further damage. You'll end up losing bottom half of screen eventually

[cold elbow]

Just seen it on the wan show

Amd making only 5 of them

[quartz kayak]

If ur buying the phone working for 150 ur also buying a new screen

Its still worth the price even if you buy a new screen anyways

[sharp idol]

new screens are about £220 trade over here

[quartz kayak]

They are like 400 here original new

😃

[rose yacht]

just buy a new phone bru

[sharp idol]

you're also paying for warranty when you buy new

[lost fossil]

🇺🇸 english (simplified)
🇬🇧 english

[quartz kayak]

The s22ultra new is like 900

[rose yacht]

900 is a lot?

[quartz kayak]

Compared to 500 it is...

[lost fossil]

900 is always a lot for a phone

[quartz kayak]

Ong

Even 600 is alot

[rose yacht]

oh please

i have to pay 2.8k for a phone

thats like 1.4k dollars

[lost fossil]

which is still a lot for a phone

[quartz kayak]

Tell me something a 900 phone does that a 400 one doesnt

[rose yacht]

better speed

better camera

[quartz kayak]

So nothing?

[rose yacht]

my grandma has a "400 dollar" phone

[quartz kayak]

Better speed is almost not noticeable nowadays

[rose yacht]

that shit is slower than a microwave

[quartz kayak]

A $400 phone nowadays is pretty good

[rose yacht]

hell na

we got her a newer model nokia

that thing is just lagging like fuckin crazy

not worth using at all

[quartz kayak]

U can get a whole iphone 12 or a oneplus 10t

Those are both pretty solid phones that do anything a 1k flagship does

[quartz kayak]

Trash company

Nokia sucks ass

Buying a phone should always include research so you can get the best value for money possible

[lost fossil]

top 10 anime sentences you'd get killed for in 2007

[quartz kayak]

Real

Remember when bokia was good

Bonkia

[rose yacht]

then uh

my fathers work phone

is a xiaomi, shit is lagging too

[quartz kayak]

As if xiaomi wasnt ass aswell

Xiaomi and redmi are both budget companies

[snow rover]

Chinese mfs trying not to fill their os full of garbage nobody wants

Samsung is bad with bloatware too but not to the same extent

[lost fossil]

how it feels to read all that on a xiaomi phone

[quartz kayak]

I also had a xiaomi phone at some point

A p8lite

No thats actually huaweii

It was an huaweii

(They are all the same trash so the brand doesnt matter)

[lost fossil]

not even has a xiaomi

it has a lot of storage at least

[cold elbow]

What am i supposed to do with a lot of storage

It's just a phone

[lost fossil]

steal memes

[cold elbow]

I have soooo much photos and videos and halfway filling 128gb

[jade pivot]

my xiaomi has whopping 32 gb of storage

[quartz kayak]

And i have more than 10000 photos

[cold elbow]

The difference that i have backups

And backups of backups

And backups of backups of backups

Caption this cus i cant

[jade pivot]

accidentally ran over the gpu with a car, can happen to anyone

[quartz kayak]

me if i ever see @distant swift

[lost fossil]

forgot to install the support bracket

[rose yacht]

when your gf came from a toxic relationship and she thinks you cheated

[jade pivot]

gotta make the card fit the mini ATX case

[nova crag]

Is anyone here well versed in pc's? Just a quick question for my cousin

[snow rover]

why ask a question about the question rather than just asking the question

[nova crag]

It's an MSI CODEX 5 13TC-1602MYS I7-13700F 16GB 1TB RTX3060 8G

I can't send pics

[brave field]

What about the question?

[jade pivot]

rate my setup

[brave field]

Cleaner than most testbenches, 9/10

cables facing the user... hrm....

[jade pivot]

shouldve dusted it off a bit, tbh

[nova crag]

I'm asking if it's good or recommended for 1500€

[brave field]

I'd pass at that price

There's a 4060ti model but 13700F + 3060 isn't worth that

[nova crag]

How much would you say it's worth?

[snow rover]

less

[brave field]

Which country, so I can check how the parts market might be?

For the usual US/UK/Germany/Canada, you can shave off about a fourth of that price easily, plus more if you swap out the CPU and some of the RGB components

[snow rover]

i built my pc for about 1600€ and the gpu is twice as fast as a 3060

[jade pivot]

does it say RTX tho

[nova crag]

Belgium

[brave field]

PCPP has alomst no GPUs for Belgium, nice

[jade pivot]

check france then

[brave field]

If you can get a 6650XT or better GPU in the price range, or find a way to shave off 300€, it'll be more worthwhile @nova crag

[nova crag]

I'll send this to my cousin thank you very much

[brave field]

motherboard prices suck on Belgium PCPP compared to both France and Germany, weird

[nova crag]

Sorry if I wasn't descriptive at first

I'm not really deep into the pc world

[neon surge]

can some one help me complete my maths test 😢

[lost fossil]

we don't do that around here

[junior flax]

New keyboard

[cold elbow]

Mid

[snow rover]

is that a prebuilt keyboard

[lost fossil]

we entered the era of "prebuilt" keyboard smfh

next up prebuilt mice

oh wait optimum built a diy mouse already

[jade pivot]

if you didnt handcarve those keycaps, can you really call yourself a gamer

[junior flax]

I spent 27 days handmaking a new plastic polymer which I then handcarved with a chisel to create the keycaps

I also hand mined all the materials and created my own pcb making machine to create the internals of the keyboard

[jade pivot]

plastic is melted into forms, no chisels

amateur

[junior flax]

I melted it into a 12 foot squared cube and then hand chiselled it to just add extra blood,sweat and tears

[cold elbow]

True gamers spend more money into their keyboards than their entire pc

[jade pivot]

true gamers buy alienware gaming laptops

[junior flax]

when I was 10 my cousin got an alienware gaming laptop and my ass was so jealous

[jade pivot]

it's three times the price for more plastic and leds

[rapid lake]

How much would you pay for this:

Motherboard: MSI B360M Gaming Plus
CPU: Intel i7 8700k
Cooler: Cooler Master MasterLiquid Lite 120
GPU: MSI GTX 1070ti dual-fan
RAM: 16GB 1666MHz
Storage: 500GB Samsung 850 EVO M.2 NVMe
Case: Cougar Turret mid-tower

[jade pivot]

how much do they want

[junior flax]

under 300£ imo

probs lower tbh

idk

[rapid lake]

I’m selling

On behalf of someone

[jade pivot]

400 if you're lucky, would be my guess

[rapid lake]

400 what

If you’re talking $400 I might aswell just buy it myself lol

It’s old but it’s still decent to this day

I could change the GPU later on

[supple walrus]

Friend (relatively knowledgeable in PCs) says $300 US max

350 absolute max, 300 easy sell

8700K platform combo: 150-200$

1070Ti: 70-120$

850 Evo: 30$

[jade pivot]

it would make a decent 1080p@60 pc with a new gpu

[supple walrus]

Yea

[jade pivot]

@sour marsh is this correct

[sour marsh]

That is correct mostly. A more direct translation would be "data subject"

Which translates to computer science anyway

[supple walrus]

lmfao

[rose yacht]

the f slur is translated into subject?

[sour marsh]

Correct

[jovial tide]

Hi

[quartz kayak]

Why is bro spamming every chat with hi

[jovial tide]

Need friends

From every channel

[jovial tide]

Is it possible to connect Air pods to ps4

[jovial tide]

Nop

[subtle compass]

1+11111111=0

[rose yacht]

Possible, but you need to buy a device for it to work

[rose yacht]

anyhow, what is a good alternative to final cut pro

dont care if its paid or free, just good alternatives

[sacred loom]

Davinci

I use davinci or vegas pro

Mostly davinci but it needs good system specs

[cold elbow]

Yeah DaVinci is good

Wtf

Who removed my nickname

[rapid lake]

New airpods come with a lighting to usb-c cable?

Need someone to confirm

It’s so stupid because now you need to get an adapter for it and as an iPhone user I don’t have one

[quartz kayak]

Damn

Tbh deserved

Thats what u get for getting iphone

[fervent granite]

My pro 2’s came with one yeah

The package contents are listed on apple’s website btw if that wasn’t the one you got

[rose yacht]

yes

they do

my gen 1 pro and gen 2 came with lighting to usb c

[lilac heath]

yes

[supple walrus]

Got a thunderbolt port (or USB-C) port on any of your devices (that, isn't the charging point obviously)? I used my laptop as a brick to charge my Galaxy watch5 until I ended up getting a USB-C to 240v wall plug

[rapid lake]

Negative

Got and adapter with another cable for 6 bucks

[lost fossil]

i see that as an absolute win

[rapid lake]

eh

Not for me

[rapid lake]

And I got a copy triple A

For $11

[cold elbow]

all new iphones come with that stupid cable also

[rapid lake]

Glad we agree

[cold elbow]

its funny that they give you that cable without a charger cus if you have an older iphone it came with a type A charger

[rose yacht]

"to make the boxes smaller for more transport of phones" they said

"to not make more waste" they said

[shell kernel]

They do

[cold elbow]

so now you procced to buy a new charger with a box and all

[shell kernel]

AirPods Pro do too

Atleast in my country

[cold elbow]

i bought me soundcore earpods for cheap and they are usb c and come with A to C

[shell kernel]

Btw is there a server for advertising

[cold elbow]

wym

[shell kernel]

I’m tryna advertise to find a video editor

[cold elbow]

advertising is not allowed here

[shell kernel]

Oh ok

[sour marsh]

I love when the math teacher presents a(3-a) that most students didn't know they have to multiply and make the answer "a" to a^2 when you do a * a

Either I am smart or my whole class is dumb

[jade pivot]

if it's anything like my old engineering school, it will turn up the difficulty pretty hard in the next few weeks

[arctic yarrow]

Seems like your whole class does not know how to use algebraic distribution law properly

[sour marsh]

To be fair the teacher assumed everyone knew

So his shock was very brutal

[arctic yarrow]

I assume everyone there is either an adult or late teens right? Yeah, I'd be shocked too.

[sour marsh]

Adult+

20-31 range

[rose yacht]

[snow rover]

is there some major pitfall to buying a korean market phone being in europe

i want to try the s23 and the korean model is significantly cheaper

[jade pivot]

apart from warranty claims you wanna check if the korean model supports european frequency bands

[snow rover]

i can't find solid information on what bands are supported so i might have to pony up for the international version

[jade pivot]

did you ditch your zenphone already

[snow rover]

no but i have someone interested in buying it

i mainly don't like the fingerprint scanner being on the right side of the phone

[jade pivot]

so the zenphone is for righthanded people?

shame the apple faceid isnt on android

[sacred loom]

[jade pivot]

faceid is proprietary, it's on a different level to the android face unlock

[jade pivot]

you can fake out android face unlock with a picture, cant do that on apple

this is not a fanboy jerkoff, apple goes more in depth with the face scan

[sacred loom]

Apple had the same problem when they first released but they fixed it fast i think

[jade pivot]

sorta

apple does a 3d model of your face

[sacred loom]

Tbh i wish ive went for s23 instead of 14 pro

[jade pivot]

i'm still happy with my X

[sacred loom]

Yea imma buy airpods pro 2 in like a week

[jade pivot]

meh, i bought differen in-ears for sports

[sacred loom]

September 11 ryt the next apple event?

[jade pivot]

idk, i dont care that much unless i need to upgrade

[sacred loom]

Thought of getting Wf1000xm5 which is much better than pro 2 but expensive as hell

[sacred loom]

Yea i was using a 15$ wired earphone still with lighting to aux cable

[shell kernel]

“Apple Face ID” @jade pivot

[shell kernel]

I wanna get it but it looks goofy

[sacred loom]

Nah xm4s look goofy xm5s much better

[snow rover]

oh wow those are generic

[cold elbow]

Bigass earbuds

[fervent granite]

I prefer stems tbh

[snow rover]

i prefer actually ergo designs that mimic the shape of the ear

though i guess that's harder to do with wireless

[fervent granite]

I've never tried it but apple's stems give you lots of functionality which is nicer

[sacred loom]

Me too

Cant wait for the 2nd gen pros

[fervent granite]

they're already out

[sacred loom]

Also the xm5s have memory foam like tips so it aint like silicon

[sacred loom]

To arrive*

[fervent granite]

would be better for my ears

nothing except the medium size fit my ears

i honestly considered returning them because they would hurt but I guess you just have to get used to it

[sacred loom]

i really like the vol slider in the pro 2

Good function

[light sinew]

I thought you guys were talking about bmws for a sec lol

[junior flax]

i like my samsung buds2pro but i turned off the functionality tap things

[lost fossil]

and she decides to buy you a new gaming pc as a gift

[jade pivot]

with an intel gpu because it's on sale

[cold elbow]

Buys him an old Alienware

[lost fossil]

cmon have some faith

[sour marsh]

So has the game's performance been.... a bit disappointing?

[cold elbow]

It's a mix of a lot of factors
Drivers needs more optimizations, game optimization and the game is demanding

Not to mention that in the past 2 years we didn't see thqt much of performance gain with new cards

Older generation cards are beat the crap out of new cards for price to performance

[jade pivot]

apart from the difficulties of getting more stuff on a die, gpu manufacturers have been investing into fsr/dlss because it's basically a cheatcode in performance

but starfield is just unoptimized af

[sour marsh]

I have yet to add more pads to my GPU to increase it's performance

[lilac heath]

Rtx 3080 gets like 60 fps at 1080p

Native

[rose yacht]

1440p with the 3070 is like 10 fps, right?

[jade pivot]

big doubt, since i can't get stable 60 with a 3060ti

[lilac heath]

[rose yacht]

time to and try it out

[jade pivot]

i've been playing for a few days now

[lilac heath]

🏴‍☠️

[rose yacht]

i havent since its been raised to 70 euro

which is just too much

[jade pivot]

77 for the premium edition on instant gaming

[junior flax]

so expensive still

lowkey can't justify that on a game

ima wait till gamepass

[lilac heath]

Gamepass version will be released tomorrow

[junior flax]

🙂

sm1 at my work booked 3 weeks off lmao to play starfield all this month

[lilac heath]

Lol

[cold elbow]

I think it's more optimized for AMD since the 6800 xt is slapping the 3090 ti which makes no sense

[jade pivot]

i'd wager that nvidia cards don't do so well on fsr

[cold elbow]

Why would it be?

I think it's just drivers issues since nvidia launched the driver a week before the game launch meanwhile AMD launched a day before launch

[jade pivot]

i get about 5-10 fps more with the dlss mod

[lilac heath]

6800xt was getting around 70-75 fps
Nvidia gpus were getting a lot less fps at Ultra but running fine on high settings

[cold elbow]

I guess amd cards can scale better in low resolution

[sour marsh]

Inb4 MS's Xbox has AMD components,

[lilac heath]

Yea it looks much better than FSR
FSR makes textures look like an oil painting

[cold elbow]

Oh yeah

[sour marsh]

Which could explain AMD having an edge

[cold elbow]

Easier for devs to optimize

[sour marsh]

Not saying it is the answer, but I figured since both consoles run AMD in it

[lilac heath]

Amd had obviously blocked dlss on purpose

[cold elbow]

They want to sell

Nvidia doing this shit for years

[jade pivot]

idk, has bethesda been sponsoring the nvidia logo in previous games?

[lilac heath]

But fsr looks a lot worse💀

[rose yacht]

wait does starfield have denuvo?

[sour marsh]

Isn't it like 6700X inside a Xbox Series X?

[lilac heath]

Nah

[cold elbow]

Imo fsr is only good if you are playing higher than 1080p

[lilac heath]

Only Steam DRM

[cold elbow]

Still a total different OS so

[jade pivot]

akshually

xbox os is a windows VM on hyper-v

[cold elbow]

Can u install it on your pc

[jade pivot]

i'd go out on a limb and say it's heavily modified

[cold elbow]

[jade pivot]

still not a different os

[cold elbow]

It's like saying android is actually linux

[jade pivot]

linux is the kernel, not a whole os

eggsbox runs a modified version of w11 core

which is w11 without the gui

[lost fossil]

are you trying to say that the reason 4090 destroys 7900xtx is because of?

[cold elbow]

It just makes no sense

[jade pivot]

getting stable 60 fps with dlss3 now

and i dont have a 40xx card for frame generation

[rose yacht]

Just buy one

[lilac heath]

Frame generation mod is $5 per month

[rose yacht]

What the fuck

[lilac heath]

Released by PureDark on his patreon

[rose yacht]

I’ll just find someone and ask him for the files

now dont tell me i am supposed to integrate my patreon to use the mod

[lilac heath]

U have to link your discord with patreon

Also he has added DRM to frame generation mod

[jade pivot]

another dude made a free one

https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/761?tab=description

[lilac heath]

Oh it has been released today

[cold elbow]

Anyone know about GPU MSI mode?

It should be enabled on your system
If not then enabling it can reduce latency and give you more fps

[jade pivot]

also hardware accelerated gpu scheduling

[rose yacht]

I got a 3070 gaming x trio

In which app is this located

Or its directly in starfield or sum

[cold elbow]

Software called msi utility v3

You will find if it's enabled in front of your gpu

[cold elbow]

Price in usd?

[fickle finch]

hold on

854 dollars

[jovial tide]

Looks cool

I spent 1100 on my pc

[fickle finch]

it doenst come with a monitor, keyboard or mice

[jovial tide]

Oh

[cold elbow]

I don't like that power supply

[fickle finch]

oh?

[jovial tide]

I think my graphic card is very older then yours

[fickle finch]

will it be a problem in the future

[jovial tide]

Almost 4 generation difference lol

[cold elbow]

It's a bit costy but i guess that's your region prices

[jovial tide]

It's my first pc never bothered to upgrade lol

[fickle finch]

I found another pc before and it had worse specs but same price

[jovial tide]

How much a 4080 cost?

If I want to upgrade my

[cold elbow]

Check your prices i guess

[fickle finch]

im going for it

[jovial tide]

I don't wanna get scammed lol

[cold elbow]

Why cant you build your own pc?

[jovial tide]

Someone said I got scammed on my first pc

[craggy thicket]

If you believe someone is a scammer, please DM @frank agate to make a report.

[fickle finch]

Im too busy 😓

[cold elbow]

Like that case probably shit
Power supply from god knows what

You can probably get a system with ryzen 5600 and a 3060 ti

Same performance and much cheaper

[fickle finch]

thats the benefit of building

[cold elbow]

No

Building your own means you know exactly what you're buying

[fickle finch]

oh

[cold elbow]

I always make sure to buy a very good quality power supply

[fickle finch]

what happens if the power supply is bad?

[cold elbow]

Destroy your parts

Or it dies

[fickle finch]

😱

[cold elbow]

Think about it
It supplies power to your parts

[fickle finch]

cant i replace the power supply to a better one @cold elbow

[cold elbow]

You can

[fickle finch]

theres hope? 😮

spec wise do you think it is good for the price @cold elbow

[cold elbow]

It's decent

But that gpu is meh

Maybe an amd 6700 xt

[fickle finch]

i can replace in future

[cold elbow]

...

So you gonna replace case, power supply and gpu

[fickle finch]

power supply for now

[cold elbow]

Is this computer the only option you have?

[fickle finch]

this is what I found so far

my budget is 854 dollars

or 800 atleast but im willing to compromise a bit for better performance

[cold elbow]

Keep searching then

[fickle finch]

or just a PS5 melon?

[cold elbow]

...

[lost fossil]

damn

where can i get stock coolers like this

[fickle finch]

🤷‍♂️

[unreal iron]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/186049255966?hash=item2b51665a1e:g:fN0AAOSw0x1k6EIW&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4Ehc50QKh83eFFEKnWQ%2BY%2Bfp0EQ3tlnN9WRrLGCes6%2FhDQbYrqXItvONOah464Ag6eoT70iau3427TwiftEiuts8izkIRCwbrKUFFaJSmCEA8JmLUGja%2FdtWwQyayBBSoVXLFFCeQ5vQLHbTS8AZeCx4Yq6ktsB5XeON1pFUl56KKBLQ08%2FVbVuVKaWw8U1eC5FCM9gpkNQhv98STLI3m%2FhSnoNkCb6gv%2Fq%2F2Sw6T5Pm2tIg9jjyl3aXjXmc0u6%2FhH6n03pCbm6WQUGG9Md%2BjU4a9Yntkjs6k6%2Firupi7SKW|tkp%3ABk9SR-KN8tzMYg

These are way lower than the others but listed as NEW holdup

You can find some for for 500-800, with a lot of sales at the 1200-1300 price point. Lots of Bid posts get into 800-900, and Buy it Now is usually 1k+

New from Nvidea is 1200

So don't pay more than that obviously

[fickle finch]

what cheap monitors can you guys recommend me?

[unreal iron]

I use a TV as a moniter. It's a 60 inch TCL I got on sale for $300

[fickle finch]

3 hundo?!

[unreal iron]

For a 60 inch tv

But it's a smart tv

[wispy mesa]

nice i assume led 1080?

[unreal iron]

So that discount is because it has all the fuckin trackers that comes with smart tvs

[lost fossil]

feels bad when i buy things for expensive and later they're not expensive

[unreal iron]

I think 1080

O
Might be 4k

Hang on lemme Google it

Yeah 4k

[lost fossil]

i had to get a 65 tv bc 65 is almost exactly the length of a 4x1 ikea kallax

[unreal iron]

This one

[wispy mesa]

Oh ye nice

i got the google os variant

43 inc though

[unreal iron]

I have a proper moniter

https://www.nfm.com/lg-27-ultragear-qhd-nano-ips-1ms-165hz-hdr-monitor-with-g-sync/61240370.html?region_id=813321

It looks like this

I got it used for $150

[fickle finch]

😮

[unreal iron]

Sorry I came here with a topic to ask lol

I got someone asking for a good quality prebuilt

[wispy mesa]

thats something

[unreal iron]

He's not too concerned about price point, as long as he's getting what he pays for

Probably trying to keep it below $1500

But it does need to be able to play new games

[fickle finch]

poor monitor on the side 😦

[unreal iron]

It's a 144hz it's better than the TV lol

I game on the moniter, use the TV for rleverything else

[fickle finch]

is the tv to watch shows while farming the game?

[lost fossil]

epic retro ipod

[fickle finch]

wait does the tv work with the ps5?

[unreal iron]

I use the large screen when I got lots of windows up

And when I'm streaming so I can see all the windows

Hdmi I would think so

[fickle finch]

how much for the tv im not trying to buy it from you lol

[lost fossil]

it's a crime that ps5xs don't come with displayport

[unreal iron]

Lol

[fickle finch]

woah

[unreal iron]

But it's a smart roku tv

So it has fuckin trackers

That's why they're cheaper

[fickle finch]

wait i thought it was 25 dollars

[lost fossil]

shouldn't've connected it to the internet

[unreal iron]

I didnt

[lost fossil]

[unreal iron]

But they don't care, it probably sends that shit off as soon as a signal is in range

[junior flax]

console users would probs break the port tryna pull it out without releasing the safety thing

(I totally didn't nearly do this with my pc when I first got it)

[cold elbow]

some cables does not come with a button

[junior flax]

oh fair

[lost fossil]

sony could use a port without the latches

[crisp granite]

Guys lets do a little quiz but dont cheat nor do i think you will be able to

[sharp idol]

This would definitely be the case for sure, its bad enough with hdmi's being unplugged while the console is still pretty toasty

[crisp granite]

What is the product of the uncertainty of momentum and uncertainty of position equal to or greater than?

[junior flax]

wait what's wrong with that

I do tha with my xbox

[spiral jasper]

Can't wait to redecorate my room

I'll actually be able to get a good keyboard and a second monitor

And a decent pc placement

[unreal iron]

I recommend a g m m k

For a mechanical board, they come hotspot at a price that I can't find anywhere else.

[snow rover]

the original gmmk is pretty terrible by today's standards and the gmmk 2 / pro are nothing special for the price

[spiral jasper]

A g m m k?

Oh it looks good

But can't get one

[unreal iron]

For a hotswap?

For easy to find I couldn't do better tbh

I bought some Kailh whites and my own keys

Fuck whatever brand trash quality switches comes in that board

[hearty stirrup]

Is this brand and model worth it

31.5 USD ^ btw

[quartz kayak]

Redragon has some pretty good keyboards and some pretty trash ones. I recomend you actually search about it and buy the best one according your budget

[hearty stirrup]

Yeah i dont really trust the local brands already got 2 broken ones in a year and logitech/razer are too expensive for me

So redragon seems to be the only choice rn

[quartz kayak]

How did you break 2 keyboards in a year

[hearty stirrup]

Its always the w key being most glitchy and spacebar

asd sometimes

[quartz kayak]

Well if it helps your case maybe look into hot swappable keyboards, bcs those can be fixed easly if some key stops working. Though idk if theres any hot swappable keyboards on your budget. I do know red dragon has some though so.

[rose yacht]

id love to make a custom keyboard tbh

with some silent mx switches, so i dont have to wake my mother up

[quartz kayak]

Why dont you have a silent keyboard to begin with

People that have loud keyboards are cursed

[hearty stirrup]

Idk if its true but it says that one is hot swappable

[quartz kayak]

Just search

You should never buy what you find first

[rose yacht]

well cuz when i bought my razer blackwidow, i didnt know about silent or loud mechanical keyboards

[quartz kayak]

Silly

@hearty stirrup On a quick search i found that the best keyboard under $50 is https://amzn.eu/d/fjbad7t

Not a red dragon

"This keyboard is absolutely packed with features, but on top of that, it does the basic stuff really well.

Overall, this keyboard is a steal.

The hot-swap feature alone is quite rare to find on a keyboard under $150, let alone under $50.

This allows you to swap-out and test different switches on the same keyboard without having to solder.

The keyboard is plastic, but it has an aluminum back-plate that improves the build quality and makes the keyboard feel more rigid.

It doesn’t fall into the trap of ringing too much or having the keys rattle with each keystroke."

[hearty stirrup]

Jumped to 117 USD when i switched to .in

Lol

[quartz kayak]

💀

[cold elbow]

Full keyboard with media keys or go home

[quartz kayak]

Amazon man

[quartz kayak]

Sure, show us a good full kb with media keys for under 50

Silly catrin

[cold elbow]

K55

[jade pivot]

https://a.co/d/fuiWT9r

[quartz kayak]

Rubber dome?

Trash

[cold elbow]

Better than a shitty Chinese brand

[quartz kayak]

He said that his keys broke so i told him to get something hot swappable

[cold elbow]

That would break in two days

[jade pivot]

tell him to get anger therapy instead

[quartz kayak]

Its hot swappable.

You can fix it.

[cold elbow]

It's icue compatible and even has a volume wheel

[quartz kayak]

Trash

Will never recomend someone a rubber dome keyboard

Might aswell take one from the local library they will have the exact same typing experience

[cold elbow]

Nope

[quartz kayak]

Yup

100%

[cold elbow]

Nay

[quartz kayak]

Maybe by luck they ll even find a logitech one aswell

[cold elbow]

Also wtf is TECWARE

[quartz kayak]

Not saying that corsair is a bad brand, but when ur on a budget. Other seco dary brands are the best.

[cold elbow]

Corsair keyboards are great

[quartz kayak]

[jade pivot]

definitely not chinese /s

[quartz kayak]

Bro this one is even worst

That one might actually be on a library

[jade pivot]

you realize that cherry is the company that created cherry mx switches?

[quartz kayak]

Doesnt change the fact that its another rubber dome keyboard

I d prefer a swappable keyboard for 50 and maybe buying actual mx switches down the line

[jade pivot]

idk where you see rubber

[cold elbow]

Keyboards elitists remind me of the people that think you need to spend 5000$ to build a gaming pc

[jade pivot]

do you have a fetish or sth

[cold elbow]

Anything below a 4090 is trash

[quartz kayak]

You can tell by the keys height

Compact mechanical keyboards are expensive so its not one for sure.

Also just google it

[cold elbow]

I used a g19 which is rubber dome keyboard for 10 years and it was awesome
Switching to mechanical wasn't a game changer just slightly better

[quartz kayak]

[quartz kayak]

I dont think you get it. Its not just the fact that its mechanical. Its the fact that its mechanical AND hot swappable.

You can upgrade it down the line and fix it.... in this case the user broke 2 keyboards in a year so fixing should be the priority

[cold elbow]

And why should i swap them?

[quartz kayak]

In case a key breaks

You can swap it

For a new one

And boom

[cold elbow]

What if the board break

[quartz kayak]

Not broken

Buy a new board

And boom

Not broken

[jade pivot]

then you can take the keys and swap them into the new board, duh

it'S HOT SWAPPABLE

[cold elbow]

Guess what
Rubber dome is hard to break
Much more durable
Doesn't care about water
Much easier to clean

[jade pivot]

if you break 2 keyboards a year, you have issues

[gaunt granite]

my keyboard is an £8 membrane keyboard, I just laugh at the people who spend ludicrous amounts of money on ever fancier keyboards with fewer and fewer actual benefits aside from "But guys... clicky noises "

[cold elbow]

And i still own that g19

[quartz kayak]

But if you break it its BROKEN

THEN HE LL JUST BUY A NEW ONE

[jade pivot]

omg, it's fish

[quartz kayak]

CREATING AN INFINITE LOOP

[jade pivot]

i didnt realize

[quartz kayak]

RAHHHHH

Hi

[jade pivot]

did you eat the sugar

[quartz kayak]

What

[cold elbow]

Mechanical consists of a board and switches
Membrane only a board that is covered

[quartz kayak]

Can still break

What if i stab it huh

[cold elbow]

But on the plus size you get icue
Macro keys
Media keys and a beautiful keyboard with very good warranty

[jade pivot]

not a fan of membrane, once the gunk builds up you can toss it

[lost fossil]

if you buy membrane keyboards, you contribute to ewaste

[quartz kayak]

Onggg

[quartz kayak]

Icue is just bloatware

[gaunt granite]

interesting take, mine is like 8 years old now and still works fine

[cold elbow]

They spend 400$ on a keyboard and it doesn't come with a cable

[gaunt granite]

including a cable is just too expensive you know

[quartz kayak]

Its probably stinky

[gaunt granite]

no I just periodically blast it with a hose lol

its indestructible

[lost fossil]

cmon stop destroying my flimsy argument with facts and logic

[quartz kayak]

Send photo

[lost fossil]

[cold elbow]

It's not

[gaunt granite]

that would require me to stop doing work and go and wash my keyboard so no

[quartz kayak]

100% bloatware

[cold elbow]

Nope

[quartz kayak]

SEE STINKY

[cold elbow]

It's also compatible with signal rgb

And you can program it then delete icue

[quartz kayak]

Werent you the human that didnt care about rgb

[cold elbow]

Macro keys

[quartz kayak]

Useless

U can macro with 2nd party apps

[cold elbow]

Nope

[quartz kayak]

Yup

I ve done it

[cold elbow]

This is built in its memory

[quartz kayak]

Useles

[cold elbow]

With scripts and everything

[quartz kayak]

Useless

Rubber dome makes it all useless

You press a key and it muchies your finger

Ewww

And its stinky

Also im p sure you can get a macro keyboard with the sole purpose of making macros for really cheap if thats something you absolutely need and dont want domes

For like 10€

[jade pivot]

never saw the appeal in macros

[quartz kayak]

I like macros, but i dont play a game that needs them regularly so meh

[jade pivot]

my old logitech g somethin had those extra keys, never used them

[gaunt granite]

as a software engineer I couldn't live w/o them, but that's niche

[jade pivot]

keyboard macros

[gaunt granite]

yeah

[quartz kayak]

Excel macros

[cold elbow]

I use them for all tasks

[gaunt granite]

I don't like code macros actually lol

but kb macros are useful for a bunch of editor tasks

[cold elbow]

Every software i open it assigns different macros for

You can even download elgato streamdeck software and use your keyboard as a syreamdeck

[quartz kayak]

I just cba to make that many macros

Styrofoamdeck

Only macros i have made on my keyboard are gta macros and last time i played gta was last year

I also have random minecraft macros that i make really fast just to afk in farms

[cold elbow]

Mid

[quartz kayak]

Me to u

[cold elbow]

Mad fish

[latent drum]

hey uh

not sure if this belongs here

my dorm landlord limits everyone to 10mbps to every mac address and i managed to get two addresses

and confirmed that the sign in wifi thing is linked to the mac address

is there a way to bypass the speed limit? either jumping the mac throttle or getting another adapter to combine both mac speeds

[quartz kayak]

Yeah, get a new dorm.

[jade pivot]

if there were whitelisted mac addresses, you could take one of them over

but duplicate macs lead to issues

[cold elbow]

hack into the mainframe

[latent drum]

signed a contract for this year

[latent drum]

like?

[jade pivot]

network connection issues

why not just ask if you can have better speeds if you pay extra

[latent drum]

tried

they said their internet is extereme fast enough

i mean fair

the idiot whoever made the limits set the upload to 40

i think they meant to switch them

[jade pivot]

talk to their it guy then

10mbps is not too bad tho

[quartz kayak]

Yeah its not too bad its horrible

Probably cant even watch youtube at 1080p

[latent drum]

yeah

most videos are at 60fps

which it dies

• i study engineering and the programs arent small

[cold elbow]

i used the uni wifi to download large files in the cafeteria or library

very fast there

[quartz kayak]

Idk how data works in there but here with 16€ a month u can do whatever you want with data

100mbps

And i know that theres some services that offer unlimited data for cheap so i d look into that

[rose yacht]

@cold elbow just made the priority on the 3070 high using utility v3, anything else or i am good?

[wispy mesa]

you could get 2 network adapters n bridge them via windows for 20mbps

[cold elbow]

you should test if it improves anything for your games and some say that it might cause issues to set it on high

[fickle finch]

@cold elbow same specs except i7 processor and 1 more fan for little bit more money

864 dollars equivalent

This 854 dollars

10 dollar difference with a better processor and 1 extra fan

Oh graphics card is different too

[quartz kayak]

2nd option seems the best if ur gaming

[lost fossil]

all with a "550 bronze" power supply

[quartz kayak]

1st if ur multitasking

[fickle finch]

:/

[quartz kayak]

Though they are both good builds

[fickle finch]

This power supply thing is giving me 2nd thoughts

[quartz kayak]

Bronze power supplies arent the end of the world

If its rated at all they are mostly fine

[lost fossil]

my internet router has a white power supply

as in, 80 plus white

[quartz kayak]

Isnt that worst than bronze

[lost fossil]

and it's doing good so yeah it's not too big of a deal but preferrably something better is preferred

yeah it is

[quartz kayak]

If its a big deal you can just buy a gold one and sell that one

They arent even that expensive so meh

[lost fossil]

this is why prebuilts can be caca sometimes

[lilac heath]

3060ti is faster💀

And has faster memory bandwidth

[quartz kayak]

[fickle finch]

so 4060 ti is faster

[quartz kayak]

Ofc

[lilac heath]

In some games 3060ti is faster

[fickle finch]

is there a diference between rtc 4060 oc and ti?

[quartz kayak]

Yeah the ti is better

[lost fossil]

it depends on whether the 3060 ti is the 12 gb or the 8 gb variand and whether the 4060 ti is the 8 gb or the 16 gb variant

[quartz kayak]

And you can manually oc the ti if thats something you want to

Tho i wouldnt recomend it

[lost fossil]

you can manually oc all of them

[fickle finch]

what you recommend for gaming oreo?

[quartz kayak]

Yeah but the oc is kinda already oc

You can but theres almost no difference compared to a ti

[fickle finch]

between the 2

[nova steppe]

Why? Leaving performance on the table

[lost fossil]

out of the 2 you posted i'd go with the 4060 ti/12400f one because 12400 is plenty adequate for gaming and 4060 ti is better

[lilac heath]

[quartz kayak]

Because a 4060ti is expensive and we dont shit money yet

[quartz kayak]

Probably different memory

[nova steppe]

I meant overclocking

[lost fossil]

we dont shit money yet
i remember buying a radeon 7770 with lunch money

good times

[quartz kayak]

You can brick a gpu overclocking

[lost fossil]

or can you

[lilac heath]

Look at the diff in 1440p

💀

[fickle finch]

so rtx 3060 is better

then why buy 4060 ti?

[lost fossil]

the 2 provided options don't offer a 3060 though

it's a 4060 or 4060 ti

[fickle finch]

oh yea

[lost fossil]

so go with ti

[lilac heath]

Cus it has frame generation

And is more power efficient

[quartz kayak]

Im willing to bet that that 3060ti is more expensive than the 4060ti.

[nova steppe]

Most drivers will just crash and reset if you just max shit out, + there are hard limits, such as voltage increases. If you brick your gpu with a non-record setting OC, that's just a skill issue on the cards side

[fickle finch]

can we see fps difference between i5-12400f and i7-11400 or it doesnt matter as much?

[quartz kayak]

Still shouldnt do it

Much less if ur nor used to computers

[quartz kayak]

Yes and no

The fps difference is minimal

[fickle finch]

lets say i want to play gta5 online which one should i go for

[nova steppe]

I'm guessing you had a bad experience if you're so vehemently against it

[quartz kayak]

I already told you.

[fickle finch]

both are good but what is stable fps wise?

[quartz kayak]

I didnt. Im just not into wasting money

Because not even warranty will help you if you brick your card that way

Its just 400€ down the drain for minimal added performance

[nova steppe]

Bro, if clicking the auto oc button does something irreversible to the card, there was an issue with the card from the get-go. Just rma and say it died if that really happens

[lost fossil]

stop scaring the man

[quartz kayak]

Not only that but if ur buying a 4060ti its obvious it can handle anything so u would just be overclocking for no reason

[lilac heath]

Nah

4060ti is atleast $40 more expensive

[quartz kayak]

If its the 8gb vs the 12gb the 3060ti is more expensive.

[lilac heath]

3060ti does not have any 12gb

[lost fossil]

oh wait, was i thinking of the regular 3060

[quartz kayak]

😭

[lilac heath]

Yea its with frame generation enabled

[fickle finch]

4060ti then

[lost fossil]

canned novideo benchmark

[fickle finch]

4060ti with i5-12400f it is then

@quartz kayak i was considering investing on a ps5 but i feel it will cost alot more long term because of ps plus

[quartz kayak]

Yeah i also wanted to get a ps5 but ditched the idea completely

Im not paying 100€ anually to play online

[fickle finch]

also what about the days you dont play

[quartz kayak]

Fr

Nowadays i even payed 60€ to play online (which i thought was already too much)

Theres no way im doing more

[cold elbow]

3060 ti is the same card but much cheaper

Only difference is dlss3

[fickle finch]

mel what you think

[cold elbow]

As i told you before

Keep digging

[jovial tide]

oi

[jade pivot]

seems like my 6 year old CPU is showing its age in starfield

nevermind that it had no issues running 1080p60 on psycho in cyberpunk

[rose yacht]

Time for a new one!

[jade pivot]

but then i'd have to replace the mainboard too

and the ram

[rose yacht]

Time for a new pc!

What socket is ur cpu

[jade pivot]

FCLGA2066

wat

[rose yacht]

The best one you can use is 10980XE

Unless you are using that one

[jade pivot]

i7-7820X

that 10980 is barely faster than mine, not actually convinced it'd be much of an upgrade

only thing i seem to be missing out on is rebar support

[lost fossil]

my condolences

[jade pivot]

wdym

[lost fossil]

dead end platform

[jade pivot]

are you making fun of my pc

[lost fossil]

as an owner of an x399 mobo, i'm not

[jade pivot]

aorus?

[lost fossil]

designare

[jade pivot]

a what now

[lost fossil]

designare

[jade pivot]

gigabyte

[lost fossil]

yes

[jade pivot]

mine is x299

[lost fossil]

it's a solid board tho

physically, too

[jade pivot]

ye idk, never had issues with it

[lost fossil]

yeah but dead end platform

[jade pivot]

meh

[lost fossil]

are there any xeons to upgrade to on x299?

or is that not even possible

[jade pivot]

why xeons

[lost fossil]

for all the cores

[jade pivot]

how many do you need

[lost fossil]

all of them

[jade pivot]

ye but, what for

[lost fossil]

no idea

[jade pivot]

there aint no multithreading for adult anime

[lost fossil]

im just saying like, i moved from i7 to xeon on my asus x99

can you do that on x299 or did intel close all the loopholes

[jade pivot]

isnt the xeon slower tho

[lost fossil]

it depends

[jade pivot]

unless you made a huge jump between gens

[lost fossil]

i think there is a 12 core x99 xeon at 3.3ghz

[jade pivot]

xeons are server grade, not intended for unstable clocks

[lost fossil]

you can't even run them at unstable clocks i think

[jade pivot]

idk, why would i overclock a server that runs middle sized companies

[lost fossil]

They will require a new chipset, the C422 chipset, and despite the common LGA2066 socket, the Xeon-W will not work with the consumer X299 chipset (reaffirming the split we see with the E3-1200 v5/v6 series which require the C236 chipset and will not work with the Z170 chipset)

sadge

x99 was one of a kind

[jade pivot]

pinless cpu was nice

[fickle finch]

is having a white colored pc better in summer or is this a myth?

[cold elbow]

It's just paint

[fickle finch]

doesnt it reflect the sunlight or does this logic only apply to cars

to leave the pc inside cooler

[cold elbow]

Why would u even think about keeping your pc in the sun

And the effect is sooo small that is neglectable

[fickle finch]

it wont be near the sun the window is opposite side

[lapis haven]

[fickle finch]

lupin what you think

[lapis haven]

i didn't expect you to ask that, thats what i think

[lost fossil]

where did u even find that myth

gotta be userbenchmark

[jade pivot]

linus hack tips

[junior flax]

I've never even heard this myth but I doubt ur case holds much of the heat anyway

like within the actual frame

[fickle finch]

im going for the white one above

[junior flax]

bruv where am I looking above

[fickle finch]

this

[jade pivot]

not white, pastel coloured holds cool temperatures better

[lost fossil]

thermal pastel

[jade pivot]

exactly

[fickle finch]

man im going for white i feel black is boring and my phone is black

[jade pivot]

the NASA space shuttles were originally going to be painted in light pink due to temperature efficiency during re-entry, but they figured people wouldn't be too happy about that back in the 80s

[lost fossil]

white reflects rgb better

[jade pivot]

so something like this will give you peak cooling for overclocking

[fickle finch]

good reason for my wife to get a pc

[cold elbow]

[jade pivot]

match with these to keep your head cool as well

[cold elbow]

I want that

[rose yacht]

the razer ones are better

[junior flax]

bro honestly I can't tell if ur being ironic or not but shut the fuck up I'd rather my pc burn then get a pink case

[cold elbow]

What's wrong with pink

🥺

[jade pivot]

i also found a good deal on these especially for you https://www.stromord.com/clown-makeup-set

[fickle finch]

pink is cool

[jade pivot]

[lapis haven]

according to science, it depends on the material, white color on its own reflect about 80% of the visible light, still absorbing UV and near-IR rays . there seems to be some specific material which also reflects near-IR rays, which reduces the overal heat, which i highly doubt such material is used for building cases or other stuff.

[junior flax]

already own it

[rose yacht]

but do you own "Clown Guide: 101"