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junior flax
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my case rn has 7 💀

oblique solstice
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Now be nice, but I have old Alienware case still

spiral jasper
junior flax
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5 arctis p12 then 2 other case fans that i accidentally rounded the screws off

junior flax
spiral jasper
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Damn

junior flax
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1 on side, 1 on bottom cooling gpu

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1 on back

lost fossil
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cmon the market needs more of that

junior flax
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2 on top

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2 on front

spiral jasper
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Where do you even find the space to put them

lost fossil
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fractal define can't be the only option

oblique solstice
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Hehehe probs the max was 10 GB lol

snow rover
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separate rack mount case for hard drives

junior flax
spiral jasper
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I have the 2 corsair fans that came with the case as exhaust, 3 artic p12 that came with the cooler, and one mini one on the cpu

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Pretty decent

junior flax
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the x's represent fans

snow rover
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I was going to buy one more corsair fan for the back to match the front but they're 30€ each

spiral jasper
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But it was a humongous pain to put in the radiator and the fans infront

snow rover
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skull emoji

spiral jasper
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It barely fit

languid narwhal
spiral jasper
junior flax
spiral jasper
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Or even noctua

junior flax
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can get 5 for that price

snow rover
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but I want rgb

languid narwhal
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Lian li is rgb, but probably more expensive

spiral jasper
oblique solstice
junior flax
snow rover
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I'm not going to put one lian li fan with 3 corsairs

spiral jasper
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I can get lian li fans for the same price as corsair ones

snow rover
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gotta have the matching set

spiral jasper
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Well

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Buy more lian li 🤯

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I'm gonna have to buy 5 or maybe 6 lian li fans

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Each is like 29$ or 30$

junior flax
cold elbow
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Imagine not buying arctic p12 fans

spiral jasper
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Well I have a good job so it shouldn't be a problem

junior flax
spiral jasper
arctic yarrow
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Finally cleaned up my room and desk enough that I'm comfortable showing my setup

languid narwhal
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Happily removed my artic fans from my cpu cooler as well

spiral jasper
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Happily?

languid narwhal
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Yes

spiral jasper
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Did you not like them?

arctic yarrow
languid narwhal
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I had other fans I wanted in my rig

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Nothing was wrong with them

spiral jasper
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Oh okay

cold elbow
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That's still messy

languid narwhal
arctic yarrow
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Yeah, still a bit messy, but better than it was before

arctic yarrow
lost fossil
spiral jasper
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I still wonder how did I fit the radiator

spiral jasper
snow rover
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i like the bench vise

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really goes with the gamer vibe

arctic yarrow
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Yeah... I use it for other stuff xD

cold elbow
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@spiral jasper

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My liquid freezer

spiral jasper
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What am I looking at

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Oh

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Wait

cold elbow
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Clearance between the cooler and ram

spiral jasper
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Oh shit

cold elbow
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Few mm kek

spiral jasper
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Yeah it was pure magic how I fit this in

cold elbow
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I didn't want front mount

lost fossil
cold elbow
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For many reasons
Top mount master race

spiral jasper
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I had no choice other than front mount

spiral jasper
cold elbow
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Ye

spiral jasper
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Also by some miracle the radiator is not scratched

arctic yarrow
cold elbow
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Why not case on desk?

arctic yarrow
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Because it's more convenient to be on the floor

spiral jasper
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More dust?

cold elbow
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Yeah a good leg warmer

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And hard to work on

spiral jasper
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Mm

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Warm summer nights

cold elbow
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Then collects lot of dust

spiral jasper
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Sweaty feet

jade pivot
arctic yarrow
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Dust isn't a huge issue for me. I just bring it outside and dust it off occasionally

jade pivot
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get air cans

cold elbow
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I can't lift my case

cold elbow
jade pivot
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they also double as an excellent way to cool your drinks

snow rover
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floor pc gang

spiral jasper
cold elbow
spiral jasper
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How heavy is it

cold elbow
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Usually ask my dad to move it

arctic yarrow
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I think my case with everything in it weighs around 15kg

cold elbow
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Idk how heavy it's

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It's a lian li lancool 2 mesh

snow rover
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weak

cold elbow
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🥺

spiral jasper
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Fr

cold elbow
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Im smol ok

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Also

spiral jasper
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How small

arctic yarrow
cold elbow
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Buy this bad boy

snow rover
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I'm the smallest adult on earth

cold elbow
lost fossil
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air = fast

cold elbow
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Cleans pc in 5 seconds

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And cost 15 bucks

arctic yarrow
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I have an air duster, but unsure where it went off to. My dad probably took it. I usually just use canned air.

spiral jasper
cold elbow
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😩

lost fossil
spiral jasper
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That's almost 40cm

cold elbow
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Wait so u like 195

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Wtf

spiral jasper
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I'm 196cm

snow rover
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i would not want to be that tall

cold elbow
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Must be hotter up there

spiral jasper
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Yeah building muscle is harder when your tall

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But you have more strength by default

lost fossil
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i already almost bump my 4head into things outside and i'm 184, can't imagine being 196 what the fuck man

spiral jasper
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I got used to it

cold elbow
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Things usually not designed for people over 190

spiral jasper
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I duck everywhere I go

snow rover
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I'm like 160 which is a suitable height

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i can almost reach top shelves

jade pivot
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get a stool with rgb

spiral jasper
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Also

jade pivot
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and usb-c

spiral jasper
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I have a very big foot

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Size 14 in us measurements

lost fossil
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ppl these days are either too short or too tall

what happened to average ppl

spiral jasper
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50 in FR

snow rover
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what the fuck

lost fossil
snow rover
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I've never even seen a size 50 shoe for sale

jade pivot
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pick up basketball as a hobby, free shoes

spiral jasper
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I can only order online

cold elbow
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35 eu size sometimes 36 KEKW

spiral jasper
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But prices are very cheap

lost fossil
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i think we should be extra worried about him bumping his legs into his test bench pc

jade pivot
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better pick up yoga

jade pivot
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bend the legs over your shoulders

cold elbow
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What's your desk height

spiral jasper
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imagine a 196cm tall man sitting here for a better part of the day

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Reason why my pc has no airflow is because im a wall blocking it all

cold elbow
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Lmao

spiral jasper
cold elbow
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U need two p12s to force air near that testbench

cold elbow
spiral jasper
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85

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Cm

cold elbow
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Hmmm

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The average is like 70 right?

spiral jasper
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Idk

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Height of the dest isn't the problem

cold elbow
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For someone your height i thought it would be

spiral jasper
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Nah its good

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But the horizontal space

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That is an issue

nova steppe
arctic yarrow
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Super useful for tightening castle nuts or hammering in roll pins with punches.

cold elbow
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What?

jade pivot
spiral jasper
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I forgot that this was a gta server

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I've been using it as tech support lately

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My wallet is gonna feel this one

snow rover
jade pivot
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needs more rgb for the knees

spiral jasper
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Yes

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Can't see my shins properly

cold elbow
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112 euro for 3 fans?

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Wtf

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And bottom one is 95 hmmm hmmm hmmm 3sHmmm

lilac heath
languid narwhal
cold elbow
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Damn

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Idk about that specific monitor but what i know that G monitors usually expensive
If u really want to buy one u should watch MonitorsUnboxed

jade pivot
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it's not an IPS panel tho

cold elbow
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Yeee

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Oled is the future i guess?

jade pivot
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not for me

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i think the 3060 might melt at that resolution

lilac heath
jade pivot
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won't happen on modern panels unless you force it

lilac heath
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Some monitors have pixel shift

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To prevent burn-ins

jade pivot
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if there was only an option to have a non static clip playing on your monitor while not doing anything

lilac heath
jade pivot
cold elbow
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Mine goes off after 10 mins

jade pivot
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imagine coming into your room and the monitor is not displaying its full glory

cold elbow
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Don't see the point here

jade pivot
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seems i'm too tired for sarcasm

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it's funny tho how older windows used to default to screensaver until they realized around 8 or so to just turn off instead

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might also be connected to CRTs tho

cold elbow
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I think in the past windows didn't have the ability to turn off the display

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Idk.. never seen a CRT

nova steppe
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And no, I can't warranty it

nova steppe
jade pivot
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touch the monitor cable and your heater at the same time

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if that fixes it, get a new cable

jade pivot
nova steppe
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This has been an issue for 2 years now, with it only getting worse. It's not the cable

languid narwhal
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Do you plan to eventually get another monitor? Lol

nova steppe
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I was going to for my birthday, but my sister is planning a party with my parents, and idk what the leftover budget is

languid narwhal
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Do you have any specific ones in mind? Or just gonna get the same model

nova steppe
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Something still curved. I use it for my racing/driving games only, so I'd like a slightly bigger one, like a 32", but then I'd need a stand.
My speakers wouldn't fit on the desk with the extra width

sharp idol
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I've seen that issue recently when using HDMI on a monitor but works fine with VGA

nova steppe
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I've used both DP and HDMI over the years [that I've had this monitor], but ig I can try with my 5 other cables 🤕

lilac heath
nova steppe
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It did indeed have a 2 year warranty, so I could have done it hahakms

jade pivot
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you don't need the original box for warranty claims

nova steppe
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I needed the barcode at least, since I can't find the receipt

jade pivot
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the serial number is on the monitor

nova steppe
jade pivot
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you need proof of purchase when you go back to the store, not necessarily at the vendor themself

cold elbow
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I mentioned here that my monitor is also having an issue

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I have a purple vertical line now

nova steppe
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I love purple!

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Gonna see if I can strike a deal with Asus and get my way-past- warranty motherboard RMAd

snow rover
nova steppe
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Yeah, audiophile, they're actually good

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I use another pair of beige speakers for rear surround

snow rover
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anything smaller than an 8 inch woofer is for toys

nova steppe
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It's not critical listening it's VRRRRRRRR tss VRRRRRRR

snow rover
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how are you supposed to get satisfying engine sounds with speakers that produce nothing under 100hz

jade pivot
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that issue solves itself if you go to 1-2 rock concerts without ear plugs

cold elbow
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12VHPWR to be replaced by 12V2x6 connector NVIDIA has a new power connector in the works, reportedly compatible with some existing power supplies, reports Igor’sLAB. NVIDIA has been working on an updated power connector ever since problems with the 16-pin (12VPHWR) version were first reported. The cases of melting cables were narrowed down to im...

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Héhé

oblique solstice
spiral jasper
cold elbow
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For the price of a motherboard haHAA

spiral jasper
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But its still alot

spiral jasper
cold elbow
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I alot of people get this wrong

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In short your pump should not be above the water level or the highest point in the cooler

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...
In your configuration the pump below the highest level for water but since air bubbles going to go up... they will settle near the tubes that are connected to the radiator which can create noise.

oblique solstice
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V interesting. Thanks for sharing

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I wonder how their enterprise cards fair as those have double supply right?

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This new 4090 has finally a decent output on 4k. But looks like it needs ddr5 and min 12700 or equivalent

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Have none AMD guys here managed to get the most out of it with 11s gen? I have 11700 but that is old ddr4

lost fossil
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i have an 11th gen i9 es with an amd gpu, works well

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define "get the most out of"

rose yacht
lost fossil
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yeah but i mean

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your hardware just works to the best of its capabilities

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getting the most out of sounds like doing big overclocking and stuff

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i don't see how having a core 11th intel cpu vs, uhh, not that, is gonna affect the gpu performance

rose yacht
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isnt like 11th gen bad?

lost fossil
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kinda bad these days but it's alright

rose yacht
jade pivot
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and vice versa

brave field
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This new 4090 has finally a decent output on 4k. But looks like it needs ddr5 and min 12700 or equivalent
You can likely still slack on the CPU for newer releases (the ones that aren't launching broken, at least)

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7xxx3D is still GPU limited in many AAA titles even with DLSS3

jade pivot
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those new AMD CPU mounting brackets do look spicy

junior flax
jade pivot
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someone used wood screws for his mainboard

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wood

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screws

junior flax
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wait wtf

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I THO8GHT THEY LOOKED OFF

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HAHAHA

oblique solstice
# lost fossil define "get the most out of"

I want the 4k to run over 60 FPS, with 3080 CP 2077 can't go as high..so was pondering of getting 4080 or 90 ahead of new dlc release. However, would my CPU bottleneck? If I consider 40 series GPU , would I have to renew everything but the storage

oblique solstice
oblique solstice
# cold elbow What?

I know we have enterprise cards at work used for machine learning, talking to the tech guys bout it, they told me they draw more power and use double cables. That is what

jade pivot
oblique solstice
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But basically those succers use x2 16 pin cables

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The server has 8 of those and the sound it make is nuts

jade pivot
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the one you mean are in there

oblique solstice
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They are big ram buggers, not something you'd stick on a laptop

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Can't recall exactly but they either 50 or 60 gb

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Or more

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Been a while

junior flax
oblique solstice
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Hehe

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Look at all the transistors on the thing, no wonder it's glowing 🌈

fickle sonnet
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heyy

wispy mesa
nova steppe
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Through the mobo right into the stud 😭

wispy mesa
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100% secure as can be

polar moon
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Seems like a cool tech place. Mostly stuck helping out with smaller discord servers mostly ran by kids with tech related stuff.

polar moon
oblique solstice
oblique solstice
charred otter
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So uh

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Does anyone have a good hdd reccomendation

snow rover
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those still exist?

languid narwhal
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Get an ssd

charred otter
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I have an ssd

snow rover
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get more

charred otter
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Im pretty sure my motherboard has one ssd slot

snow rover
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i'm pretty sure it has sata headers

charred otter
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Idk what that is

sharp idol
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Someones getting M2 and SSD mixed up hmmm

charred otter
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I think i have a sata cable

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Idk man im not made of technology

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I dont this stuff

languid narwhal
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Didn’t your mobo come with a manual

charred otter
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Probably

sharp idol
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HDD and SSD use same connections

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SSD's are also dirt cheap at the moment

charred otter
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Ok

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So

junior flax
charred otter
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What else do i need for another ssd

snow rover
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i might get another samsung 980 pro hmmm

languid narwhal
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Well, why would you want an hdd over it an ssd

charred otter
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Cuz there are bunch of hdd slots

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And

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I could use it for games i dont play

sharp idol
charred otter
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But want installed

languid narwhal
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Understandable. I wouldn’t know of any great hdds off the top of my head

languid narwhal
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Oops didn’t mean to edit that

lost fossil
cold elbow
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Seagate barracuda

lost fossil
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st16000nm001g

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dk if it's just the russian market but 16 tb drives are great value currently

oblique solstice
oblique solstice
lost fossil
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gonna have to wait for nvidia 6090 or amd 9950 xt if you want to run cp cyberpunk at 4k120

oblique solstice
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Always off tho

oblique solstice
sharp idol
oblique solstice
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But changing mobo, ram and CPU just to change the GPU seems wee bit ott

oblique solstice
sharp idol
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Thats pretty much how majority of PC upgrades tend to go

charred otter
oblique solstice
charred otter
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Google in terms of "what's a good ssd/hdd' is often times shit

oblique solstice
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Well Samsung 980pro is first one which came up, apart from running hot, I have no issues with it

ionic drum
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What are the best tabs for sketching and art?

jade pivot
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wacom i guess

ionic drum
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Ou?

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What's that?

jade pivot
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they make touchscreens and tablets for artists

cold elbow
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Also lot of people use an ipad with apple pencil

jade pivot
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ye, wacom is mostly windows

rose yacht
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i have a wacom drawing tablet

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but i havent used it in a while

snow rover
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interested

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fuckers jacked the price of the 7800x3d 10€ up from yesterday

jade pivot
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i still have a first gen surface pro in the closet somewhere

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they used to ship those with wacom

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the power supply was absolute garbage, it kept breaking and starting to burn

cold elbow
light totem
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don't give them ideas

spiral jasper
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Same specs

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Mine was

charred otter
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what the heck is this virus infected link kek

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dont click btw

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@echo mural delete this

jade pivot
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it's a modmenu

lilac heath
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Yea

charred otter
lilac heath
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Github is safe

jade pivot
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debatable

charred otter
lilac heath
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Yea cus it has an .exe

charred otter
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Idk just seemed sus

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Im wrong i guess

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But you can understand my concern

lilac heath
lilac heath
charred otter
lilac heath
snow rover
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and even then I'll spend a few extra bucks to have the ram match my gpu

spiral jasper
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Explain in idiot terms my English doesn't go that far

snow rover
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there are different memory chips from different manufacturers

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a-die from sk hynix is the best one for memory overclocking

spiral jasper
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🥭👍

spiral jasper
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My pc extention cables came

spiral jasper
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Looks fire af

brave field
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nice cablework

oblique solstice
oblique solstice
rose yacht
rose yacht
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that combo is like mid-high range of performance

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if you really want 4k, you either go with i7 12th or 13th gen with a 3090 ti or 4090

ionic drum
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Lmao
It's also 2000+ 😭

oblique solstice
oblique solstice
oblique solstice
oblique solstice
rose yacht
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i built my pc back in 2021, when the gpu shortage was happening

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the only reasonable gpu i could buy was the 3070

oblique solstice
rose yacht
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3090 was like 4k local (about 2k dollars 💀 )

oblique solstice
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Almost a grand I think for 3080

oblique solstice
rose yacht
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you can always see people using 12th or 13th gen with a 3080 on yt

oblique solstice
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I do some work on it too so AMD 3d chip might not be sufficient

languid narwhal
oblique solstice
spiral jasper
spiral jasper
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It's amd

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AM5 with ddr5

oblique solstice
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2700

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Is that for real

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That GPU is grand , how can the rest be 1.7k

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Mystery solved there is 600 monitor there

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Ok so I would need 700 to update my board, CPU and ram

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Any board suggestions? Nothing to daft , as in overpriced pls

cold elbow
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Msi tomahawk maybe? They always kinda solid

oblique solstice
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Anyone else for MSI t?

cold elbow
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If u want to make the best choice

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Watch hardwareunboxed reviews

rose yacht
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if you are going 12th or 13th dont buy asus

cold elbow
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They usually have a video that shows u all of them, their specs and recommendations

rose yacht
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they are common to fuck up your cpu

oblique solstice
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What abou gigabyte?

rose yacht
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id say decent

cold elbow
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Fuck gigabyte

rose yacht
languid narwhal
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To each of their own

cold elbow
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Cus it's a shit company that makes shit products

languid narwhal
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I’ve had no issues with my piece of tech from them sassy_shrug

rose yacht
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i have a gigabyte laptop

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it works good

junior flax
jade pivot
oblique solstice
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Tell us more

charred otter
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You know why do i find about shit companies after i get their products

languid narwhal
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I mean, everything here is subjective sassy_shrug

snow rover
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ok

jade pivot
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fake news, gigabyte rocks

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(this comment was brought to you by gigabyte™)

charred otter
jade pivot
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gigabyte is okay

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they had problems with certain high end gpus and fumbled the ball hard

languid narwhal
cold elbow
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Or their shit tier customer support

jade pivot
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aww cmon, that's a feature

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you can toss 90% of GPU vendors if you judge them by their support

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because pretty much all of them use outsourced indian/eastern european callcenters

cold elbow
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Asus is fine

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They RMAed a 1060 with falty RGB led with a 1660 ti strix

jade pivot
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asus 4090s started a little fire at the power connector like everyone else tho

cold elbow
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Btw i have a gigabyte motherboard and it's shit

languid narwhal
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Just stop suggesting Nvidia as a whole since due to the past reports of their cards melting

jade pivot
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my aorus from 2017 is still going strong

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supported by two wooden shelves

cold elbow
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I like how my motherboard rgb is totally useless cus RGB Fusion doesn't work
It bricked the OS for some users

jade pivot
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my mainboard software keeps trying to install norton every time i look for updates

cold elbow
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Gigabyte software is like garbage tier

brave field
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Don't install mainboard software

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Armory crate messing with GPUs, ASUS AI Tweaker overvolting CPUs, Gigabyte RGBFusion and APP store both bringing in loads of vulnerabilities and destroying Windows

snow rover
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it's honestly quite remarkable how bad all rgb mal- i mean software is

cold elbow
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Icue is alright

snow rover
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no

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i had icue on my laptop at some point

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literally reduced battery life by 30% doing god knows what

cold elbow
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I set it to static
And it's also controlling my keyboard macro and it's barely using any resources

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It would take some resources if you setup rgb animations

snow rover
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i don't think i even had anything corsair

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i just forgot to uninstall icue

languid narwhal
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I have an asus mobo and yeah, armory crate was annoying to uninstall

charred otter
frozen ridge
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Nerds

spiral jasper
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Am I crazy or is this just plain wrong

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Bubbles will go into the pump

lost fossil
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what he says there is fine

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melon(bubbles) also pointed out that either is fine as long as the pump is not at the top of the loop, but having tubes at the top might make extra noise due to air piling up at the top where the tubes would be

spiral jasper
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But some Bubbles are bound to go into the pump and when they go in there there is no way for them to go back down

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Bubbles can only go up

quartz kayak
# spiral jasper Bubbles can only go up

They will also go down with the current, its allways easier for them to go down from the pump to the radiator than from the radiator to the pump so they are gonna acumulate in the radiator

lost fossil
spiral jasper
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What

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Don't bring my sweet baby boy assistant in here

wispy mesa
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Always use openRGB, install required SDKs and disable execution of shitty rgb software

quartz kayak
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Openrgb sucks

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Just like every other rgb software

wispy mesa
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never had a problem with it

quartz kayak
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Coolermaster stuff doesnt work correctly on it

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Neither does asus

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It works but its laggy af.

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And on cooler master it doesnt even work

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Its just off

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Trash

wispy mesa
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All my Asus works

quartz kayak
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It works but its laggy

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The animations suck

wispy mesa
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Must be something else causing it to lag, could of been specific to PC. and yea animation isnt necessary

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Never tried coolermaster with it, but if it overrides OpenRGB the coolermaster App may be open still

quartz kayak
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No

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I killed it in task manager

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And unninstalled it

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Got signalrgb

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And it didnt work

wispy mesa
#

if coolermaster app was uninstalled thats probably why it didnt work

quartz kayak
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No

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It works on asus without armoury crate, and razer without synapse

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Why would it be different

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It might also have to do with the fact that the masterplus app is trash

wispy mesa
#

because its different hardware, that is locked behind a wall that requires the coolermaster SDK, to control

quartz kayak
#

It didnt work with the app anyways it just stayed off

wispy mesa
#

Well maybe the hardware is broken lmao

quartz kayak
#

No

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It works with the app alone

wispy mesa
quartz kayak
#

Thats why i closed it in tm and tried signalrgb which didnt work

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Its also a known issue as i talked in their discord about it

wispy mesa
#

Ah thats entirely possible then. I could plug in a coolermaster device and find out :/

quartz kayak
#

Meh

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Not worth the hassle tbh

wispy mesa
#

Yea most likely

lost fossil
cold elbow
#

Signal also sucks

lost fossil
#

yeah but it supports a lot of stuff

quartz kayak
#

But stuff like xpg also has mediocre support

cold elbow
#

Doesn't support my shitty motherboard

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Even when i contacted them about it

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Didn't support my old nvidia card also
Contact them about it as well

quartz kayak
#

Isnt that normal

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My pc does that aswell i just assumed it was to cool down before shutting off

languid narwhal
#

Is it breaking anything

quartz kayak
#

You should test it

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Play something heavy and turn it off

lost fossil
cold elbow
#

Also signal users more resources than icue soooo

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If im going to buy specific hardware to work with signal
Might as well buy hardware for icue

jade pivot
#

you guys are missing the obvious solution here

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you buy a separate PC to control the RGB on your main one

snow rover
#

jenius

lost fossil
brave field
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!ban 855179939103375360 sketchy/phishing links

craggy thicketBOT
#

zepcheck Banned witezy#0 (Case #207840) (user notified with a direct message)

spiral jasper
#

😨

spiral jasper
jade pivot
spiral jasper
#

To me

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It is

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But some people may have a different opinion on it

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But I do get you ponit

quartz kayak
#

Its obviously a .png but who am i to judge

cold elbow
#

You fish

oblique solstice
#

Hi peeps

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Any recommendations for benchmark sites?

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The ones one can trust

#

Also, had some time free this am so followed a suggestion from someone where re swapping out 11700 to say 13700 to increase frames in 4k on 3080. Most bids I watched quoting the same FPS or 1-3 FPS in favour of 13700. For 700 totally not worth the upgrade. Better wait for next gen I thinks

spiral jasper
snow rover
#

i think i'd rather have a full setup than just a pc

spiral jasper
#

Oh I talking only about the pc

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Can't wait till we remodel my room

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I'm gonna have a proper desk

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And proper airflow

quartz kayak
#

That 2nd one does not look comfortable

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Im small and i could see myself struggling

faint zodiac
#

the first one doesn't seem that comfortable either

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i can just imagine how hot it'll get under there 😭

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then again it's the same as long as the pc is there

oblique solstice
#

In the end of the day the cooling is all about the airflow not where aio is

faint zodiac
#

i mean the pc being underneath the desk right at feet level is gonna be hot

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i'm not talking about cooling the pc, i'm talking about the dudes legs being toasted

oblique solstice
#

Look up or try yourself in majority cases inflow on aio for some reason is more overall efficient

faint zodiac
#

would feel like a sauna under there

oblique solstice
#

Fair enough

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But he lives in Scandinavia

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So he can do with extra comfort lol

faint zodiac
#

i'm too american to know where that is

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since you're mentioning it, it's probably cold there?

oblique solstice
faint zodiac
#

oh

oblique solstice
spiral jasper
#

I'm croatian

snow rover
#

this is not strictly tech related but #community talks too much

anyone (preferably within the eu) have experience with package forwarding from the us? package forwarding would be significantly cheaper than international shipping from the company, but i'm wondering how much of a pain in the ass it is and if there are any hidden expenses i can't think of

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apparently you need like export documents and whatever when sending stuff from the us

cold elbow
#

All i know that u will get taxed anyway depending on the country laws
My way is sending stuff with travelers as personal items
Just one or two items

snow rover
#

yes i know i will have to pay local vat

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that's not an issue

cold elbow
#

There are websites that can help maybe
Like myus

snow rover
#

yes that's what i was considering using

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myus, planet express, shipito all have positive reviews but i'm still not entirely up to speed on all the potential issues and costs

cold elbow
#

I don't think it's worth it unless u wanna ship something that doesn't exist in Europe

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U lose warranty in the most part

jade pivot
#

you don't lose warranty, you just have to pay exorbitant shipping costs to send the stuff back

snow rover
#

i'm gonna try planet express

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it seems the best priced option

jade pivot
#

are you buying private or as a company?

snow rover
#

private

jade pivot
#

i had super bad experiences buying from US thanks to our border control

snow rover
#

i'm not buying drugs or batteries so it should be fine

jade pivot
#

i didnt buy drugs

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it was this amazing wifi kvm usb stick

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and those motherfuckers didnt want to release it

snow rover
#

isn't the german customs like notoriously shitty though

jade pivot
#

idk, they just had a conniption because i was trying to deliver to a company address as a private person

snow rover
#

i'm not trying to deliver to a company address

oblique solstice
oblique solstice
#

I tried buying several BIG items over 10k and it all was painful, not just for import taxes but shipping itself, depending where you are in the EU, the cost is approx 20% plus all the logistic costs. In addition, you have to pay approx 10pct in admin charges for the forwarding party. They probs quoting you 4 or 5 ATM, but by the time you import it it will be 10 at least

oblique solstice
snow rover
#

I'm not trying to get big ticket items

oblique solstice
#

If small, better ask someone who's travelling like the Corsican said

snow rover
#

I don't have people just conveniently in the us

oblique solstice
#

But yeah, depending where you are in the EU estimate extra 20pct for import

snow rover
#

VAT is not an issue

oblique solstice
#

It's not VAT

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In the US the y have alternative method of direct taxation

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It's import from non EU to the eu

snow rover
#

source?

oblique solstice
#

If an item you are buying cost 100 bucks, by the time it gets to you could end up costing you 150 180 bucks

oblique solstice
snow rover
#

this cost of importing something from outside of the eu to the eu that isn't VAT

oblique solstice
#

Dude

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I'm not going to go online to prove something to you which I studied over 5 years, want to know look it up

jade pivot
#

ye, it's called VAT

oblique solstice
#

It's simple, direct tax is only attributable to local consumer

snow rover
#

how am gonna look it up if neither you nor me knows what it's called

oblique solstice
#

Anything outside treated as impex tax

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Vat stands for value added tax

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Import tax is not

oblique solstice
snow rover
#

which is not applicable

oblique solstice
#

In the US there is no vat

jade pivot
#

if you buy or import something into the EU as regular peepo, you pay VAT

oblique solstice
#

It's simply called a sales tax

jade pivot
#

like 19%

snow rover
#

you haven't told me anything of value

jade pivot
#

there isnt anything else to it, unless it's special regulatory goods

oblique solstice
jade pivot
snow rover
#

it doesn't provide any meaningful information

oblique solstice
#

Be specific in your enquiry

snow rover
#

this "import tax" you're talking about

oblique solstice
#

If I know enough I shall help

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Import tax is simple to define

snow rover
#

so define it

oblique solstice
#

Just Google the current rates from us to wherever you are

snow rover
#

i can't find any

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nothing comes up

oblique solstice
oblique solstice
#

Also they can't be morons

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It's their job to control taxation

jade pivot
#

this applies to the whole EU

snow rover
#

no mention of "import tax" anywhere

oblique solstice
#

Customs and excise duty in the industry is known as import tax

jade pivot
#

good to know

snow rover
#

then why didn't you say customs and excise duty

oblique solstice
#

I personally cover three where the charge ranges currently from 18 to 23

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*21

oblique solstice
#

You both being a bit daft here, and childish. Do you actually want to know the real cost of importing goods or just want to split hair?

jade pivot
#

idk man, there's just one person pretending to be smarter than everyone else here

oblique solstice
jade pivot
#

so, do i need to flex my certifiations to be able to talk to you or will you bask us common plebs with your knowledge by thine one grace

#

because duties have been a thing since before either of us were born

oblique solstice
#

Again, you are being childish and bratish

snow rover
#

the irony seems to be completely lost on you

oblique solstice
oblique solstice
snow rover
#

you're calling people childish while boasting that you're older and have more life experience, many years of studies and knowledge but being completely unable to answer a very simple question

oblique solstice
oblique solstice
snow rover
#

"look it up"

oblique solstice
snow rover
#

please do point out where I was allegedly attempting to prove something was wrong

oblique solstice
jade pivot
#

how dare you question the almighty oracle

jovial tide
#

Is this the LFG chat ?

jade pivot
#

no

oblique solstice
#

I am more than happy to help with the concept but I am unable to help you if you don't ask the question

snow rover
#

i have asked the question multiple times

oblique solstice
jade pivot
oblique solstice
#

Verifiable proof? Are you glad to share your certs here?

jade pivot
#

i haven't shared anything of the sort

oblique solstice
#

If tax was so simple do you think peeps would have to study it? Don't make me laugh

jade pivot
#

didnt study 5 years to find this one

oblique solstice
jade pivot
oblique solstice
jade pivot
#

default VAT rates for shipping INTO the EU

oblique solstice
#

How can it be default if every state has its own cat regime?

jade pivot
#

now unless cora is trying to import special goods like uranium rods, i think every import calculator will do just fine

oblique solstice
#

That is the whole point of vat that every EU state can set their own, it's not just passed down by ECB or something

oblique solstice
#

Why don't you buy a pair of shoes which are over 200 bucks from the US, and once you have received the logistics companies invoice share with us the good news that the only tax you had to pay was the VAT?

snow rover
#

if you're so knowledgeable, why can't you itemize each of these taxes that aren't VAT instead of saying "look it up"

oblique solstice
oblique solstice
#

Plus

snow rover
#

so you just spat nonsense about a topic you don't actually know anything about

oblique solstice
#

I already told you that the main tax you would have to pay is the import tax

snow rover
#

which isn't true

oblique solstice
#

Not sure what else do you expect

oblique solstice
oblique solstice
snow rover
#

the whole "import tax" which you still haven't provided a source for

oblique solstice
#

Dude

#

We already had this convo

#

You already blamed me for not being precise in calling it customs and excise tax

#

Remember?

snow rover
#

neither of those are applicable

#

so I'm not sure what taxes I'm paying that aren't VAT

oblique solstice
#

What is not applicable?

snow rover
#

customs or excise duties

oblique solstice
#

It's not or

#

It's "and"

#

This is daft

#

Do you want help or not?

#

This whole thing is totally moronic

snow rover
#

I'm glad we agree on at least one thing

oblique solstice
#

I'm sharing my experience with you here for free

snow rover
#

but everything you say conflicts directly with what the eu says and you provide no sources

#

so how am i supposed to take any of it seriously

oblique solstice
#

Ok, unless you are going to be a bit more of an adult here then there is no point in this exchange

#

You are just being childish

snow rover
#

amazing conclusion

jade pivot
#

stop being so childish, cora

oblique solstice
#

Do you have a better one?

jade pivot
oblique solstice
#

Because taxes vary from state to state

snow rover
#

what taxes

oblique solstice
#

Geezus

#

Ok dude, good luck to you with importing your bunch of grapes

snow rover
#

grapes can't be exported from the us

oblique solstice
#

Now that is a daft statement, confirms the childish behaviour all over again

snow rover
#

how is it a daft statement?

oblique solstice
snow rover
#

i cannot get us grapes because they don't have FDA approved

oblique solstice
#

Wahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

snow rover
#

The following items that are not labeled in English, or without FDA-approved labeling requirements:
Non-prescription medications
Dietary supplements
Cosmetics
Food

jade pivot
#

are they that good?

oblique solstice
#

So you telling me, wherever you live you cannot buy US made wine?

snow rover
#

i do believe grapes are "food"

#

no, wine isn't the same as grapes

jade pivot
#

god, i haven't "imported" british winegums since before brexit

snow rover
#

what a daft question

jade pivot
#

i want some now

#

better study a few years to understand how expensive they'll be

oblique solstice
snow rover
#

i didn't say grapes aren't exportable out of the US

#

i said I can't export them

spiral jasper
#

This looks like an argument

oblique solstice
spiral jasper
#

Anyone mind giving me a recap?

snow rover
#

okay worded it wrong there

#

grapes obviously can be exported out of the us under some circumstances

#

but i personally cannot export grapes

oblique solstice
#

What are you trying to say?

snow rover
#

you're asking for proof that grapes can't be exported out of the us, I can't provide said proof because that isn't the case

oblique solstice
#

Ok I'm with you now, however I am still confused as to why you were talking about exporting grapes?

oblique solstice
#

Dude that's an idiom

#

A phrase meaning whatever

#

I have no clue what you are attempting to import

#

So one use "whatever" in that respect

snow rover
#

you're so knowledgeable, but you didn't know I can't import grapes

#

honestly quite tragic

oblique solstice
#

I'm not psychic

jade pivot
#

so apparently the US are the 3rd largest exporter of grapes worldwide

#

here's your random tidbit of the day

snow rover
#

my head didn't decide that, us customs and border protection decided it

oblique solstice
oblique solstice
#

Dude you are being totally random

snow rover
#

i can't import grapes, they are perishable food that will not pass US customs, i did not make the decision that they won't pass

oblique solstice
snow rover
#

no.

oblique solstice
#

Aghhh

snow rover
#

that's not even close to what is implied here

oblique solstice
#

Ok try again then

jade pivot
#

wat

oblique solstice
snow rover
#

right, and the exporters of grape are not individual people

oblique solstice
jade pivot
#

do you want me to make coras point digestible

oblique solstice
jade pivot
#

cora (as a person) cannot export grapes from the US due to the lack of FDA approval

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if cora (as a person of wealth or corp) were to get FDA approval

#

cora (as a person or corp) may export grapes from the US

oblique solstice
snow rover
#

okay

#

this is like trying to explain how to play chess to a pigeon

oblique solstice
#

You want to argue? I am giving you the chance

snow rover
#

argue about what?

#

are you arguing that I can import grapes?

#

if you are, argue with us customs and border protection instead

oblique solstice
#

But I am letting you know I cannot follow your logic as you are now talking about exporting grapes from the US being banned

snow rover
#

I'm not talking about exporting grapes from the us being banned

oblique solstice
#

If you want to be so difficult about accepting other persons view, all I can say too you is good luck

snow rover
#

i don't give two hoots about anyone's view, i want factual information

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which you seem unable to provide

oblique solstice
snow rover
#

that doesn't matter since the ruling is universal

oblique solstice
oblique solstice
snow rover
#

ruling of what I need to pay when importing stuff from outside of the eu

oblique solstice
#

Again, that all depends where you are

snow rover
#

and when I asked for experiences, i didn't ask for false statements presented as facts

oblique solstice
#

If you were in IE you have more favourable rate Vs say Czech Republic

snow rover
#

what rate

oblique solstice
#

I already told you, I don't work in logistics

#

Or customs

snow rover
#

what do i have to look up

jade pivot
oblique solstice
jade pivot
#

look up your country there

snow rover
#

you haven't answered the question

oblique solstice
snow rover
#

what is this "rate" you're talking about

oblique solstice
#

Rate of import tax or c&a duty if you want to be so pedantic plus vat of course.

jovial tide
#

1+1 = 2

oblique solstice
snow rover
#

we've already covered VAT, and I've already said customs and excise duties aren't applicable

oblique solstice
oblique solstice
snow rover
#

I've never had nor communicated such assumption

#

VAT rates differ, the ruling does not

oblique solstice
oblique solstice
#

Your pigeon and chess idiom springs to mind here

#

How ironic

#

I tried to be a good.contributor here, and shared something you were interested in. Not sure your claim of me providing you with "false statement presented as fact" is your misconception of what I said or it is fair since I have not misinformed you or tried to give you a professional advice. What I would suggest to you when asking questions, if you do not want to hear other people's view is not to ask questions

#

Otherwise,.it is time wasted for all

#

Anyway

#

I am going to bed now

snow rover
oblique solstice
#

If you would like to continue this discuss, feel free to ping me a dm

#

As I said I'm off to bed

#

Will this suffice?

snow rover
#

no, since i already posted that info right at the beginning and said that customs and excise duties aren't applicable

jade pivot
#

if it's not vat, why is it called vat rates

oblique solstice
snow rover
oblique solstice
#

The regime is entirely different to vat

jade pivot
#

but

#

you posted vat rates

oblique solstice
snow rover
oblique solstice
oblique solstice
#

So if anyone being false that is you now

snow rover
oblique solstice
#

Beging in y opinion would be your initial post or one after which would further clarify any details of the transaction

oblique solstice
snow rover
#

no, but had you initially said customs and excise duties, i would have

#

but you kept talking about "import tax" which i had no idea meant customs and excise duties

oblique solstice
#

So what are you buying?

snow rover
#

if i google import tax, it comes up with VAT

oblique solstice
#

The first site is the EU's document board, literally any legislative document there is in relation to the EU is published, discussed there

snow rover
#

which is exactly what I linked

oblique solstice
oblique solstice
#

And don't send them, knowingly

snow rover
#

what are you trying to say

oblique solstice
#

I don't click on links posted on forums

snow rover
#

and?

oblique solstice
#

And don't send them, knowingly, unless by some wired accident

oblique solstice
oblique solstice
snow rover
#

you point to the same resource yourself, but because you haven't read it, you don't know the word "import tax" isn't mentioned anywhere

oblique solstice
#

Import tax and more modern c&a duty as I said is used interchangeably in the industry

snow rover
#

and I'm a normal person, not in the industry

oblique solstice
#

In the tax world, if you mention import tax or c&a d everyone would assume the same concept

oblique solstice
snow rover
#

well basically yes

oblique solstice
snow rover
#

i don't think it's unreasonable to expect someone to use exact terms rather than illogical jargon

oblique solstice
# snow rover well basically yes

I share my experience with you, you take what you need from it. What you don't understand or fits with your comprehension is way beyond my interest. Sorry for being rude now, but you have been most unpleasant person I had to deal with in a long time

snow rover
#

so glad to hear that

oblique solstice
#

Childish and difficult are the two easy adjectives I can think of

oblique solstice
#

Absolutely the opposite

#

Again

snow rover
#

happy to be a universally loved member of the community

oblique solstice
#

If you don't want anyone's opinion, why don't you gogle your heart out

oblique solstice
#

My US imported no mgo grape juice run out, so have no more interest in continuing our lovely discuss. I say good night

snow rover
#

good night

jovial tide
#

Famous last words

jade pivot
#

my gigabyte 3060 hasn't blown up yet

#

is something wrong?

brave field
#

yes

#

according to reddit, 100% of products in a line that may have had a defect should all immediately present the worst possible outcome of said defect

#

"put it in the oven at 450 degrees for 96 hours to reflow the explodinators and it should work just fine" -Elightened_Steve

jade pivot
#

it's a 3060 ti, should i still put it in the oven?

#

and upper/lower or with hot air

#

i just checked, my oven only does 230C

#

is that ok

lilac heath
ivory spindle
#

Guys can someone hack my social club account back pls

#

i can't play beacouse i got hacked

#

dm me

jade pivot
snow rover
#

can these be changed

#

i literally cannot find an option or any discussion about it

nimble tulip
#

kid

snow rover
#

i want them to always be like this regardless of what i search

nimble tulip
#

u backspaced 💀

#

here lemme show u smth

#

i think u need the second option

#

💀

#

🤣

snow rover
#

you don't seem to even understand the problem so why are you being a complete dickhead

nimble tulip
#

am just kidding

#

u dont have to curse?

snow rover
#

u dont have to be a disrespectful asshole and contribute nothing to the discussion?

nimble tulip
#

dude

#

relax

#

what did i do