Ngl I don't understand why people buy pre builds today when many computer stores offer 'webuild'
#tech-coding-math
supple walrus
Here in Australia at PLE it's $20 for 3-10 day build and deliver, $40 for 1-5 day build + deliver, ($14 and $28 USD respectively)
wispy mesa
Ala, you buy the components and the store puts the PC together for you for a fee
Oh i read this as free
Umart is 200
arctic yarrow
I'm losing my mind with a recursive quicksort implementation that takes only the list as a parameter in python. I keep hitting a recursion depth error when attempting implementation, but I don't see why it would be hitting recursion depth. Is anyone able to analyze my code and figure out what I'm doing wrong?
if len(lyst)>1:
high = []
low = []
pivot = lyst[len(lyst)//2-1]
for i in lyst:
if i <= pivot:
low.append(i)
else:
high.append(i)
return quicksort(low)+quicksort(high)
return lyst
It returns properly when the list is 1 or 2 elements, but any more than that experiences recursion depth.
Apparently my base case isn't triggering somehow
light totem
```def quicksort(lyst):
if len(lyst)>1:
high = []
low = []
...
what if you do
pivot = lyst[len(lyst)//2] instead
arctic yarrow
what if you do
```pivot = lyst[len(lyst)//2]``` instead
I just caught that and made the change. Unfortunately I'm still hitting recursion depth limit.
Here's the code I'm executing that function with:
test = [17,22,4,2,16]
print(quicksort(test))
if __name__ == "__main__":
main()```inb4 I find out my python install is fucked.
light totem
what if you add a base case to stop it when the list length is equal to 0
arctic yarrow
Yeah, I have no idea why it's doing that, as it's supposed to seperate the list into two different lists.
I notice it works properly for the first execution of the function, then after that it doesn't do it properly.
wispy mesa
Running it again, instead of 5,3 this time it 2,3
arctic yarrow
Running it again, instead of 5,3 this time it 2,3
That makes sense because the list is already sorted.
oh wait nvm
wispy mesa
pivot becomes 3 and tries 2 <= 3
arctic yarrow
Maybe I should go the pythonic route. low = [ i for i in lyst if i<=pivot]
wispy mesa
Does it work?
arctic yarrow
Checking now
nope, same issue
if len(lyst)>1:
pivot = lyst[len(lyst)//2]
high = [i for i in lyst if i>=pivot]
low = [i for i in lyst if i<pivot]
return quicksort(low) + quicksort(high)
return lyst```Yup got the same issue as well
arctic yarrow
this is annoying. logically it should work, but it's not properly sorting on the second recursive run.
and it keeps tossing the exact same list into the recursive call.
wispy mesa
Yea, I have to head out ill try again when home later
arctic yarrow
I have no clue how this fucking worked, but I decided to completely remove the pivot from the equation, and instead add it to the low and high sorted lists with recursive calls.
if len(lyst)>1:
pivot = lyst[len(lyst)//2]
high = [i for i in lyst if i>pivot]
low = [i for i in lyst if i<pivot]
return quicksort(low) + [pivot] + quicksort(high)
return lyst```It works, and I have no clue why this does and the other one didn't.
wispy mesa
Aight then hah
light totem
every programmer ever
wispy mesa
Nice job
arctic yarrow
Oh shit. That's gonna screw up the duplicates though.
It's gonna guarantee the values equal to the pivot are not going to be there.
wispy mesa
Yes it will good point
arctic yarrow
I'll just make another list to check if they're equal.
return quicksort(low) + eql + quicksort(high)```Nice
arctic yarrow
Thanks y'all, gonna kick back some shots in the next little bit because of this 
light totem
what if you add a base case to stop it when the list length is equal to 0
did you try this yet
arctic yarrow
I swear, I chose the worst major for my sanity xD
light totem
whenever i run into a recursion error i find a way to force quit it
arctic yarrow
did you try this yet
Yeah, I tried that, threw that into the beginning.
The problem was the list wasn't sorting properly to low and high at the second recursive execution.
So the list for those runs were eternally stuck at 3 elements.
in the case where I was testing it with a list of 5 elements.
I have no clue why.
Aww well, 3N * log2N is still big O of NlogN
I was hoping for 2N * log2N, but it's not a huge deal.
night halo
doesn't have anything to do with RAM nor storage mate - only with CPU&GPU(&VRAM - only if you lack VRAM your RAM jumps in - but even the best RAM is far slower than even most of old GPU's VRAM, so if you rely on RAM, you're screwed already!)
Edit:
Storage & RAM are important for loading times, but GTA is known for being bad at that, no matter how fast your Hardware is!
lilac heath
doesn't have anything to do with RAM nor storage mate - only with CPU&GPU(&VRAM ...
Ram mismatch is the reason for stutters and lag
So 8gb ram will now be paired with 8gb(Half of 16)
And remaining 8gb will be in single channel
lost fossil
the best RAM is far slower than even most of old GPU's VRAM
true for the bandwidth but not for latency
night halo
Ram mismatch is the reason for stutters and lag
you pinged the wrong person mate - @chrome mirage
lilac heath
Nah i wanted to tell u that CPU,GPU &VRam is not the cause of lag,it is due to ram mismatch
night halo
So 8gb ram will now be paired with 8gb(Half of 16)
And remaining 8gb will be in ...
that's not how it works mate... xD - if you run them in Dual channel they orientate on the weakest RAM, meaning he won't have 24GB but 16GB (unless something changed in the past 8 years - but i don't know ANYONE who runs mismatched RAM nowadays!)
and in case of single channel the issue is simply that he doesn't run them in dual channel mode.
But to be clear, your picture is wrong about "asynchronous operation" - RAM opperates the same, it doesn't make a difference if you run mismatched dual channels (like one channel being 4+4gb and the other 8+8gb) or mismatched single channels! - the system only has issues when it needs to store informations in different channels, wich it tries to avoid hard! (but can just happen with matched channels aswell!)
lilac heath
Read the screenshot which i send
smaller ram is paired with half of bigger ram module
lost fossil
i remember adding 2 4gb sticks to a pc with one 4gb stick, speeds matched and all and i'd have 12gb but the system would bsod all the time, when i removed one of the sticks for a total of 8 it ran smooth for several years
it wasn't a bad stick bc it worked fine in another pc
lilac heath
night halo
*smaller ram is paired with half of bigger ram module*
yea, but that doesn't change much - it's just decripated in size - you can't use that other space! (unless they introduced a new functionality idk - but as said, noone in their sense runs mismatched RAM configurations in dual channel, simply because of it being decripated! - ppl do run different sticks with roughly the same specs however, and that's mostly fine, despite not optimal!
lilac heath
impact of mismatched ram is only noticeable during heavy workload like gaming
night halo
but something practical - if you need to safe a buck, it's totally fine to buy only one stick of the desired RAM, but make sure to buy the exact same modell(serialnumber) when you can afford the second! ๐
lilac heath
True
night halo
impact of mismatched ram is only noticeable during heavy workload like gaming
i doubt it being noticeable at all, due to how the system uses it! - but my words are half empty, as i have no recent experience with mismatched RAM! - but from my experience i have, from back in the day when i build my systems off of spare parts, this is over-exaggeration - it's simply not how it works!
And his issues won't be resolved by buying matching RAM, he only might be able to run it in propper dual-channel and experience better loading times, but that's it!
Mismatched RAM size is meaningless (at least for performance - if you run them in DC-mode you simply loose capacity!), what matters is the actual Chips, and even if you missmatch those, they mostly run fine, simply because dual channel orientates on the weakest timings! - it might not run optimal, but you barrely notice without direct comparison! - but ofc there are cases mismatched chips in dual channel caused issues... tho, i'm not to sure about mismatching Rank organisation... (not just how many Ranks, but how they themselves are organised! - might look up a review on this)
twin badger
What if i add 2 more sticks of the RAM of the same specification - same CAS latency, frequency and everything, but the brand is different?
lost fossil
the problem is that that guy was trying to play gta online at 60 fps with a 1050 ti
manageable but at potato settings in 2023
used to be possible but the game decays further with each update
twin badger
the problem is that that guy was trying to play gta online at 60 fps with a 1050...
He can do that, but he needs a good CPU
Something more powerful than what a 1050ti usually gets paired with
midnight elm
Ngl I don't understand why people buy pre builds today when many computer stores...
just build it bruh, don't waste money
supple walrus
just build it bruh, don't waste money
$20 is pocket change lol
midnight elm
... that was a joke about the 1050 being weak
supple walrus
I'd make more money by spending the time I'd take to build it working than the cost of paying to have it built lol
night halo
What if i add 2 more sticks of the RAM of the same specification - same CAS late...
will mostly work, what matters is that the Sticks in the same Channel are as close (statwise, especially Ranks and timings) as possible, identical is best - tho, running 2 channels instead of one might reduce maximum frequency the controller can handle, as it needs to organise more Ranks - but that can be mitigated, so a 2x 16GB dual-rank sticks should run roughly the same as 4x 8GB single-rank sticks - even if you use 2 different pairs, as they all orient on the weakest stick in your system!
twin badger
$20 to build a PC sounds like a good deal from a consumer standpoint
twin badger
13 bucks???
supple walrus
And includes delivery
twin badger
Wtf thats dirt cheap lmao
I would definitely pay that to avoid the hassle of building
supple walrus
3-10d is $20, 1-5 days is $40, or $28USD
twin badger
I suppose the pricing can also differ by how difficult the system is to build too
supple walrus
Nope
twin badger
No?
supple walrus
Flat rate, at least here
twin badger
Even a full on water cooled build is 13 bucks?
If thats true, which i kinda have my doubts on, thats an insane deal
lost fossil
I would definitely pay that to avoid the hassle of building
but what about the journey 
twin badger
Journey of mental breakdowns 
lost fossil
hell yeah 
night halo
Overall for most ppl it's not worth to thinker with RAM to long, as other parts are more impactful to actual (game) performance! - doesn't hurt to know better tho, there are a ton of good videos about the basics and details, like this:
https://youtu.be/bTS0ybQ3lCI
supple walrus
I know how to build a PC, I've disassembled and assembled multiple in computer science, the reason I'd pay to have mine built is became of my disability I have no fine motor skills and wouldn't trust myself with the high end components I'd be buying
twin badger
Whats your disability?
supple walrus
Whats your disability?
Hemiplegia
twin badger
I see, affects ability to move muscles
supple walrus
Yup
twin badger
Then yea
Imagine inserting a CPU in the motherboard's socket and the hemiplegia kicks in and you bend the pins 
@supple walrus
nova steppe
the problem is that that guy was trying to play gta online at 60 fps with a 1050...
I used to get 75~ish FPS (1080p) on gta singleplayer when I had an i5-4460 and an r9 270x. I reinstalled Windows before I sold the PC, ran the benchmark in front of him, and got 100+ FPS at the pier outside of the benchmark (usually the place with the highest FPS in the benchmark). Got 60+ fps in online as long as people weren't spawning in 50 Jets
This was only 3 years ago (almost to the day, actually) and now I can barely manage to get a consistent 60 in online with a much better PC, in an invite-only session
supple walrus
I dunno if you saw the rig I'm planning to get when I finish school, but it's pretty powerful XD @twin badger
lilac heath
the problem is that that guy was trying to play gta online at 60 fps with a 1050...
And FH4
midnight elm
I used to get 75~ish FPS (1080p) on gta singleplayer when I had an i5-4460 and a...
do you remember the other settings? Texture quality/msaa
nova steppe
most set to normal, with textures and reflections set to high, if not the highest
stretched those 4gigs as far as I could
night halo
i remember adding 2 4gb sticks to a pc with one 4gb stick, speeds matched and al...
well, that one stick in single-channel mode has effectively half the troughput than the other two in dual channel mode, whenever you hit above 8gb it's normal that you might notice some speed differences - but unless the controller is garbage, you shouldn't notice serious issues!
supple walrus
Although the 7000 series X3D version should be out by the middle of the year, so I'll probably up the cpu to the X3D version @twin badger https://www.ple.com.au/Products/655271/ple-custom-amd-ryzen-am5-desktop-pc-system/XmDiYb5LODEa
lilac heath
i doubt it being noticeable at all, due to how the system uses it! - but my word...
He mentioned that he was facing stutters in forza horizon 4
My frnd has a 1050ti and he gets like 60+ at high settings but without ram mismatch
nova steppe
I get stutters and idk what the problem is
nova steppe
supple walrus
3-10 day build is free
Priority build is $40
nova steppe
"Optimized performance" they say, eh? Well, time to dive in
night halo
but if you need more RAM, the best is to buy a larger RAM kit and sell the old one, as most controllers are just better with just 1 dual channel (especially with dual ranked sticks! - wich have their benefits, but can't be clocked as high as single ranked, so it depends on the actual requirements and workload - there's a good reason why single-rank still exists, it's king in servers, you barrely find dual rank there! - but for troughput, dualrank is better!) - as managing 2 channels (especially with 8 instead just 4 ranks) is kinda stressful for most consumer controllers and thus you can't run them as high clocked or with as tight timings! ๐ - but as said, the usual customer doesn't need to think about all this to hard, just buy what you need in capacity and a reasonable clockspeed, and make sure to run as identical sticks as possible in dual channel and set them to the rated speed - that's more important than buying the best sticks available, without overclocking them or even forgetting to make sure to run them in dual channel or even at their rated speed! - wich both is more dump than running mismatching sticks, budget dictates!
...idk why ppl trow away so much money for things they don't need, i still run an 2700X stock (actually better than anything i could achieve with OCing it! xP - tho, my main goal is efficiency, so i offset UV it) and an optimized but not OCed RX 580 (sadly it's cooler is weaker than that of the 1080 sister - i still search a transplant, but i might upgrade to a 5700XT anyway) - my RAM sadly can't be clocked higher than 1600MHz (3200 equivalent) with bad timings, thus i optimized it in a awkward clock around 1467MHz with better timings - but might need a 64GB kit some day anyway, 32GB are not enough xD
wispy mesa
i run 24gb of 6 4gb sticks with 3 different brands on a machine running a debian based distro
night halo
i run 24gb of 6 4gb sticks with 3 different brands on a machine running a debian...
and, what other sins have you committed? ๐
wispy mesa
Hmmm
twin badger
3-10 day build is *free*
Priority build is $40
Damn, thats cool
twin badger
I dunno if you saw the rig I'm planning to get when I finish school, but it's pr...
I heard something about it, i believe it had a 3080 or something like that
supple walrus
How much is the price of 3080 rn
Here? Below MSRP
Like
$100 below on average
New
supple walrus
$100 below on average
aud^
lilac heath
And what about 6800xt
wispy mesa
like 1500aud
twin badger
In what world is 6800xt 1500 aud?
wispy mesa
twin badger
lilac heath
6800xt is a much better deal
supple walrus
Question
lilac heath
Imagine buying 3080 which is almost 2x expensive and only 5% fast:๐
supple walrus
Where the fuck are you getting your prices lmfao
@lilac heath @twin badger
That's AUD
lilac heath
twin badger
<@756727219761446994> <@389385134643609601>
In usd thats like 700?
supple walrus
Same card. $1300 cheaper
lilac heath
2.5k aud was the old price then
supple walrus
In usd thats like 700?
750
lilac heath
Same card. $1300 cheaper
More importantly.In stock
Wait for 4060ti or 4070 before buying it tho
supple walrus
Wait for 4060ti or 4070 before buying it tho
Nah
I'm skipping 40 series
Not enough of an upgrade over 30 series to justify the price
lilac heath
Not enough of an upgrade over 30 series to justify the price
Yea but still u are paying $1300 for a 3 yr old tech
night halo
Nitro tend to safe on the cooler - whatever GPU you buy, make sure it has a decent enough cooler! - better cooling = more bueno performance!
night halo
Bro, who tf pays these prices?
ppl having to much money for what they actually need xP
supple walrus
Yea but still u are paying $1300 for a 3 yr old tech <:hmmm:960802534728036394>
$1300 is pocket change here lol
supple walrus
When i start work i'll be on $3000 a week (2100USD)
wispy mesa
idles at 31c
supple walrus
When i start work i'll be on $3000 a week (2100USD)
@lilac heath
lilac heath
supple walrus
I'll have enough for my pc after only 2-3 weeks of work, 5 days a week, 6h a day
wispy mesa
Whats the job?
supple walrus
Whats the job?
Logistics, for BHP
night halo
I'm skipping 40 series
he propably means to catch them at the prize drop - ppl run for the fancyest shit - sellers drop a bit in prize for other stuff they want gone put their inventory ๐
supple walrus
Doing it while I take a gap year before uni
wispy mesa
2022 graduate?
supple walrus
Hm?
wispy mesa
Ah you said gap year so i assumed you recently graduated high school
wispy mesa
Oh yep ok
steel linden
r
brave field
yupyup
jovial tide
I feel like this is the right channel for my question cuz it is tech but idk. My xbox one controller keeps randomly disconnecting from my console and idk why. No updates needed, batterys full, its a fairly new controller too.
What i do to fix
plucky raft
Probably a bad controller
fervent granite
Happens to me also randomly even when Iโm within hands reach of mine
I just plug it in
brave field
If you use sudo on your system, be sure to get the patch for CVE-2023โ22809
cold elbow
Least linux issue.
twin badger
My monitor is DP 1.2, the cable i use is DP 1.2, but the GPU port is 1.4a, i get no signal. What do i do?
cold elbow
Dp is backward compatible so u might have an issue with your cable or...
Is this a second monitor
Do u have another monitor or hdmi cable
twin badger
Currently just one
cold elbow
U sure it's not trying to output from the motherboard?
Reset bios for that.
Reseat your card and yeah... another cable.
spiral jasper
What's the best way to get a key for Windows activation
Or anywhere where I can buy it
quiet socket
@cold elbow what mobo did you suggest to pair with the 3070? I can't find it
cold elbow
<@274833120308756481> what mobo did you suggest to pair with the 3070? I can't f...
Any mobo can run a 3070
What cpu u have and budget
iron pecanBOT
quiet socket
Any mobo can run a 3070
What cpu u have and budget
Haven't gotten a cpu yet. Started with the gpu since most expensive. Around $200 range per part, can stretch more if needed
As little bottlenecking as possible preferably
cold elbow
For a 3070 and only gaming a ryzen 5600 with a B550 motherboad or intel 12400f with a motherboard that supports ddr4 should be just fine and reasonably priced
However if you want future proof then u can go with ryzen 7th gen non X but ddr5 ram and motherboards are still a bit pricey.
quiet socket
For a 3070 and only gaming a ryzen 5600 with a B550 motherboad or intel 12400f w...
Hmm, suggested future proof mobo? Pricing
twin badger
Reseat your card and yeah... another cable.
It most likely is the cable. I've used a DP cable with a different monitor with no such issues. Fucking hell, waste of money...
cold elbow
Hmm, suggested future proof mobo? Pricing
Don't have a lot of knowledge of the best of them now but usually the msi tomahawk is excellent board
You can check hardwareUnboxed channel... they do videos to compare all the motherboards and test them.
There are X670 and B650
The latter is cheaper and mostly more than enough for your use.
You can also decide on a cpu based on their reviews.
cold elbow
It most likely is the cable. I've used a DP cable with a different monitor with ...
Yeah these need to be from a good brand
spiral pond
Math hurt brain
spiral pond
There are X670 and B650
The latter is cheaper and mostly more than enough for y...
WTF IS A x670 AND A B650 ๐ตโ๐ซ
cold elbow
WTF IS A x670 AND A B650 ๐ตโ๐ซ
motherboard chipsets
cold elbow
ask google.
spiral pond
K
vernal bloom
How do i fix windows antivirus is snoozed
marsh cliff
WTF IS A x670 AND A B650 ๐ตโ๐ซ
Motherboard
hardy void
br
polar iron
Yo, How much would a gaming pc that can stream be?
arctic yarrow
Yo, How much would a gaming pc that can stream be?
Stream on twitch or something? Same as a typical gaming PC tbh. CPUs nowadays are more than capable of keeping a stream up, what's more important is your internet connection.
lilac heath
Yo, How much would a gaming pc that can stream be?
Prolly around $1K
polar iron
Stream on twitch or something? Same as a typical gaming PC tbh. CPUs nowadays ar...
Stream on YouTube
arctic yarrow
Stream on YouTube
Yeah, similar thing. You're looking at a typical modern gaming PC then.
polar iron
Hmmm Alright
supple walrus
Hmmm Alright
question is do you want a streaming system for today, or a semi future proofed system
lilac heath
Depends on the budget aswell
supple walrus
yup
snow rover
where do i find a 15v ac to ac adapter that's reasonably priced but won't burn down my house
wispy mesa
110-240v ac to 15v ac or 15v ac to ? 110-240?
wispy mesa
Not sure for euro, kinda only Australia that i know off
Id look on ebay and find where they get the part from and look for them
snow rover
yeah
wispy mesa
Ah yea dang
cold elbow
they're easy find in us spec but not so much in euro
find a laptop charger or something
wispy mesa
Nice
spiral jasper
Why are usb-c to aux cables so expensive
snow rover
because usb is digital and aux (presumably 3.5mm) is analog
so the signal has to be converted from digital to analog
snow rover
that's not descriptive
snow rover
so it's either 3.5mm trs or trrs
if it's trrs there's also an analog to digital converter
cold elbow
Usb-c to audio jack
They have a small soundcard inside
cold elbow
what was the issue and what monitor
twin badger
Excessive backlight bleed
ASUS VG249Q
I had another ASUS monitor with a different issue before
but that one was used
and i returned it in like an hour
ASUS should really step up their QC
I gotta say, that LG monitor was pretty good, it had better response times and colours were more vibrant. If it wasn't for that antiglare panel issue, i woulda kept it
Another thing i prefer on the LG and the other ASUS monitor was the joystick OSD control
its sooooo much more comfortable navigating thru OSD with it
I fucking hate using the OSD on my current ASUS monitor
cold elbow
always been using LG and never faced issues however ASUS is not the one that makes those panels so eh
it's hit or miss
supple walrus
I have nothing but glowing reviews for asus
Dropped my laptop off for repairs on Thursday
It's now Tuesday
Ready to be picked up
5 days
ASUS RMA is mental
lost fossil
I have nothing but glowing reviews for asus
i mean thats why he had to rma the monitor...
twin badger
midnight elm
https://winaero.com/how-to-enable-full-context-menus-in-windows-11/
windows 11 has 0 flaws now
lost fossil
windows 11 has 0 flaws now
you still can't move the taskbar to the top effortlessly
hardy void
Wow
twin badger
What kind of connector is that?
twin badger
windows 11 has 0 flaws now
I'd give it a few more years before calling it flawless
twin badger
fan header
Kinda had the same guess
eager marten
Would it be a stretch to talk about my engineering job here? ๐
cold elbow
depends on what u wanna talk about.
midnight elm
I'd give it a few more years before calling it flawless
name 5
twin badger
?
lost fossil
i don't know if i'm reaching with this, trying to find a problem with something, but why does steve from gn always have an issue with quirky product names?
i can only imagine his attempts at coming up with a plural form of a theoretical product called burke if it were to come out
celest ermine
hey someone help me install smth im having problem dms pls
spiral jasper
How do I get braided cables for pc?
Do I just get them with a specific powersupply or do I buy them separately
cold elbow
Depends on the power supply
You can also buy them
!!!! MAKE SURE THE CABLES YOU BUY ARE COMPATIBLE WITH YOUR PSU.!!!!
lost fossil
the lowest effort solution is to get braided extensions
spiral jasper
Aren't almost all psu cables similar?
cold elbow
No
lost fossil
no
cold elbow
Even in the same brand and series
And it's dangerous
So as oreo said you can get short cables extensions
spiral jasper
Ok so which brand is best
snow rover
build them yourself
it'll easy, fun, cheap and you can make them exactly to your tastes
i will not be responsible if (when) you burn down your house
spiral jasper
Why would it burn
snow rover
because you'll wire them completely wrong and short something
lost fossil
they're all more or less the same anyway
i suggest getting ones like the first ss u posted with the curved ones
spiral jasper
I found some cablemod ones but they are expensive
But from what I know you mustn't cheap out on power supplies and cables
I'm getting an Corsair RM1000x
Found a cheaper variant
Oh just found out corsair also makes these
lost fossil
I found some cablemod ones but they are expensive
that's a full cable replacement set so that's why it's more $
iron lantern
Found a cheaper variant
do be careful
they arent the same
also depending on the gpu u need different sets
iron lantern
u also need the correct one for ur psu
different companies require different pin layouts
spiral jasper
Yeah like I said corsair makes cable extensions
spiral jasper
And since my psu is corsair and modular I think I should get that
lost fossil
doesnt matter if they go for extensions and on the extensions market most of them are made by what seems to be the same factory in china
iron lantern
yea pretty much
lost fossil
my extensions were from uphere
pliant lynx
oleg house looks big
snow rover
house of oreo
lost fossil
oleg house looks big
iron lantern
my extensions were from uphere
im stuck inbetween lianli fans and corsair ones 
cold elbow
nice airflow oleg
cold elbow
im stuck inbetween lianli fans and corsair ones <:PepeHands:585617801692315671>
arctic p12
iron lantern
they look doodoo ngl
lost fossil
nice airflow oleg
2 arctic f14 at the top for intake good airflow yes
actually 3, one more in the psu
cold elbow
that's a good looking case thoooooooo
iron lantern
its a lianli mini
lost fossil
cold elbow
excellence
iron lantern
evga ๐ญ
lost fossil
expensive
video
graphics
adapter
i guess these days they're not sold anymore so they're not expensive
just pensive
night halo
@spiral jasper @snow rover @lost fossil @iron lantern to add to the Cabblemodding - be aware that sleeves add thermal resistance (if not obvious, cables can get quite hot! - that's why we use so many of them to power our GPU's^^), wich might be negligable in most cases and with good sleeves, but can in fact be catastrophic in effect if unsufficient! - make sure to have good case ventilation (not only airflow - but also use as short cables as possible too, instead tucking them all together in the back of the case ๐
When you use cable mods (that also applys to those by PSU manufactures, tho, they have to make sure their cables meet the requirements of the PSU they are shipped with - and they can do quite a bit to ensure that, first and most importandly by increasing copper diameter - so be careful and don't buy cheapest cables for high power like GPU and CPU, or chaining together to many devices together - as they might cheap out on copper!)
lost fossil
Are they good?
they have not caught fire in the 4 years that i had them for
lost fossil
no
jovial tide
Would this be good for gaming? Im planning to switch from wi fi but there are lots of categories.
supple walrus
Would this be good for gaming? Im planning to switch from wi fi but there are lo...
What's the price of the cable
jovial tide
Around $10
supple walrus
Because often times there will be really cheap CAT6/7/8, and you'll get it and it's actually like CAT 2/3 (like only UUP vs UTP/STP)
Yeah no
You're getting scammed lmao
jovial tide
In hungary all of them are in this price range
supple walrus
2600ft is 800m lol
novel oriole
fr
supple walrus
oh wait that's currency not distance lul
supple walrus
Ah yeah no nvm, that sounds about right
jovial tide
aight, thanks for the help
lost fossil
oh wait that's currency not distance lul
supple walrus
<:feelsgigacringeman:533389646793539599>
Yes I know
I was looking at the price thinking it was feet
snow rover
what
snow rover
that is absurdly cheap
iron lantern
wait
so they are pumping out rtx 30s from stock again?
just in time for first report
twin badger
Gotta sell off that excess stock somehow
cold elbow
Should probably upgrade my gpu
twin badger
3070 aint enough anymore?
cold elbow
Vram is not enough in some games
twin badger
I see
cold elbow
twin badger
i dont think ill have to upgrade my 6700xt anytime soon. I still play on 1080p and it gets the job done
Other than slight amount of coil whine, the card is perfect for me
cold elbow
Vram is not enough in some games
Might not be a vram issue
Just horribly optimized games/mods 
twin badger
Modern developers just expect everyone to have $1500 systems already
So the optimization becomes least of their concern
cold elbow
Bad optimization?
Slaps DLSS
twin badger
Or... they are paid by nvidia or AMD to deliberately make these games perform like shit on mid range cards to force people into buying their top of the line products
Sounds like an aluminium foil cap theory, but hey...
Considering the shady practices from both AMD and Nvidia in the past, i wouldnt be surprised if this was true
twin badger
Bad optimization?
Slaps DLSS
Didnt Nvidia originally made DLSS, because the RTX function simply made games too unplayable and they needed to compensate for that framerate loss with some upscaling?
twin badger
Considering the performance uplift from 20 series to 30 series, i can see that being the case
even now, with 40 series it comes handy in some scenarios
Especially since DLSS looks way better on higher resolutions and 40 series cards are aimed for that
cold elbow
Yup also i dont think many people gonna care about DLSS 3 [except morons] because it adds latency which defeats the purpose of having more FPS lol
twin badger
Doesnt nvidia has nvidia reflex to compensate for that additional latency?
I dont know how well it works, i just know thats a thing
cold elbow
yeah it works in making your experience playable
does not mean better
but HEY U GET HIGHER NUMBER
only use case i can see is story based games when u get 30FPS
twin badger
Yeah, but one has to wonder what kind of story based game runs at just 30 fps natively on 40 series card
cold elbow
ikr haha
twin badger
plague tale requiem on 4k maybe
cold elbow
wait let me guess
cold elbow
a badly optimized game
lilac heath
so they are pumping out rtx 30s from stock again?
$419 for a 3080 is insane value!
And $299 for 3070
Cheaper than 3050
lilac heath
BestBuy
lost fossil
no it's a laptop es with a bootleg ihs
cold elbow
Perfect for servers
sharp idol
Can't recommend these extenders enough for anyone who moves their console around alot.
lost fossil
good thing i never use mine so i don't have to move it around
spiral jasper
Which thermal paste brand is the best?
I'm thinking noctua cuz they know their shit with fans but there are alot more other brands
snow rover
i don't think there's much of a difference between normal thermal pastes
i have mx4 in 2 desktops, 1 laptop and 1 xbox
lost fossil
i used this several times and it's been doing alright https://alitools.io/en/showcase/snowman-mtg10-thermal-paste-silicone-grease-cpu-thermal-paste-desktop-notebook-ie-chip-silicone-thermal-paste-1005001709828625
snow rover
hmm yes let me wait a month for some thermal paste
iron lantern
i don't think there's much of a difference between normal thermal pastes
theres like a 5% difference between the brands
its not huge
unless ur doing sub zero
well 5% in the main stream brands
since most of their formula are the same
id just go to thermal grizzly
plus what mostly matters is the cooler
lost fossil
thermal grizzly is bad because it's meant for sub zero
meaning it dries up and becomes too ineffective with regular use
talking about the kryonaut ofc
iron lantern
well kryonaut was meant for cold temperature performance
lost fossil
a friend of mine bought kryonaut thinking it's the shit after all the positive reviews on the internet, then he started having throttling issues and found that his paste completely dried up
i went on google and found people with identical issues
iron lantern
a friend of mine bought kryonaut thinking it's the shit after all the positive r...
yea so apparently its great for like 4-8 months depending on the temperature
after that its effects die down and it needs to be replaced
wispy mesa
Its tiny
nova steppe
meaning it dries up and becomes too ineffective with regular use
o-oh
time to get some mx4, I guess 
lost fossil
when the
fervent granite
doesn't look too out of place
cold elbow
lost fossil
I see you opened a new chrome tab
i use firefox
jovial tide
fervent granite
i use firefox
Fellow brethren 
twin badger
i use firefox
Is Firefox good as a browser?
cold elbow
linux users love it
strong saffron
I've used it for a long time but I mostly use Edge now 
I like Edge's pdf viewer
snow rover
charred otter
Mr. Cora what is going on here
snow rover
the headphone jack exploded
charred otter
the headphone jack exploded
That's bad
snow rover
that's what it's supposed to look like
cold elbow
U can probably fix that
sharp idol
Nice and easy solder job 
lost fossil
Is Firefox good as a browser?
it's good
i like it for simple convenience features like opening a new tab if you middle click on an interface button or a context menu item
something that is missing in chrome
lost fossil
so am i but sometimes i cba so i just wheel click on the home button
snow rover
a handy one to remember
supple walrus
Yknow you could've just sent the build link instead of picture spam
sharp idol
Can't recommend these extenders enough for anyone who moves their console around...
This is why I recommend these extenders, all 3 need new hdmi ports
charred otter
This is why I recommend these extenders, all 3 need new hdmi ports <:hmmm:960802...
Damn you got 3 of em
sharp idol
They're not mine, i just need to fix them
charred otter
They're not mine, i just need to fix them <:kek:585617800257863727>
Daln
spiral jasper
Yknow you could've just sent the build link instead of picture spam
No
(I'm not lying I actually didn't know)
But hey 4 pictures isn't alot at all
"Spam" ๐น
lilac heath
3060 faster than 7900xtx in ray tracing performance ๐
charred otter
3060 faster than 7900xtx in ray tracing performance ๐
What is this mean
novel oriole
3060 faster than 7900xtx in ray tracing performance ๐
no shi
lilac heath
Nvidia gpus have much better ray tracing performance compared to amd when a budget gpu is able to beat amd's flagship
lilac heath
Explain this chart thingy
Fps chart at 4k resolution in Hogwarts Legacy
charred otter
So that means tha max is 30 something fps?
lilac heath
Yea
charred otter
And the 6600 is 1 fps?
lilac heath
Ray tracing is an fps killer
charred otter
I see
lilac heath
Amd gpus do not perform well with ray tracing
charred otter
Im gonna keep asking questions i want more knowledge in my ๐ง
snow rover
completely stupid scenario when none of the cards get a playable framerate anyway
spiral jasper
Nvidia gpus have better raytracing than amd gpus
But
Amd gpus generally have a better price to fps ratio
lilac heath
Yea
spiral jasper
Only because they are cheaper
If you want performance but don't care about the price take the Nvidia
But if its a budget build and you still want good performance take a AMD gpu
@charred otter
AMD has a really dominant market in the cpu branch but in gpu no so much, yet its still a good contender/rival
Such a W company
charred otter
AMD has a really dominant market in the cpu branch but in gpu no so much, yet it...
Which one
Both around 150 ish
spiral jasper
6500xt?
It's newer
And has more performance over the 580
@charred otter
But I would avoid gigabyte graphics cards
snow rover
userbenchmark is a joke
spiral jasper
Fr?
spiral jasper
Damn
Well anyway I saw some charts and I can guess that the 6500xt is a bit better
twin badger
Nvidia gpus have much better ray tracing performance compared to amd when a budg...
Yeah bro, that 6.5 fps totally looks playable
lost fossil
twin badger
3060 faster than 7900xtx in ray tracing performance ๐
I really dont get this comparison
Aint no one gonna play hogwarts legacy at sub 40 fps with a $2000+ GPU
Oh wow, nvidia beats amd in something that it has beaten since the 20 series? wow, what a shocker!
night halo
This is why I recommend these extenders, all 3 need new hdmi ports <:hmmm:960802...
what the hell are ppl doing to them to break their HDMI ports? - i have an 12 year old laptop wichs HDMI port just recently broke because i fell onto it - it was a bit loose but still stiff enough all those years before, and i used it quite a lot because the laptop is not worth the name and mostly served as a temporary workstation, so quite many unpluging (oh, and it was a combiport with USB, so LOTS of pluging around stuff into it!)
twin badger
For budget cards RTX is still gonna remain pointless
sharp idol
what the hell are ppl doing to them to break their HDMI ports? - i have an 12 ye...
Its just from over time use being handled abit roughly and unplugging them while its still hot
night halo
I really dont get this comparison
some ppl got infected with the Raytracing hype and don't understand that the technology is dead old and rather simple, just very performance intensive and thus very sparingly used outside static szene or movie rendering - Nvidia has an edge over AMD because they managed to build specialized IC's for it, AMD eighter failed, didn't saw the market value to justify the production or got held back by Nvidia's patents - but not sure, idc about raytracing, there are more efficient techniques with sufficient results
night halo
now i'm jealous, my craptop has a 2,6GHz dual core of the second i generation xD (tho, i wouldn't post such sensitive informations publicly)
lost fossil
now i'm jealous, my craptop has a 2,6GHz dual core of the second i generation xD...
unfortunately this one is not a laptop
hexed crystal
Lmfao i bought a corsair 7000D and i guess it arrived while i was at work
lost fossil
night halo
85-91ยฐC seems quite toasty for that beafy cooler - TP renewal?, mounting pressure issue?
lost fossil
that beefy cooler has a 92mm fan on it - not that beefy
snow rover
vegetarian
lost fossil
it's more of a intel 11th gen thermal issue thing
night halo
tho, it's itx? - so the cooler actually isn't that large - but still, should be sufficient
night halo
lol, okay engineering samples can be everything, including scam xP
night halo
idk Intel well enough to tell tho - but sub 1200MHz RAM frequency is weird, most controllers should support JEDEC standard with ease, even with all 4 DIMM slots populated
lost fossil
it's 2133 so it makes sense
night halo
that beefy cooler has a 92mm fan on it - not that beefy
fair enough - so you did a burn in test over 15-30min?
charred otter
What about mr oreo
cold elbow
what the hell are ppl doing to them to break their HDMI ports? - i have an 12 ye...
the issue with that shit fragile connector that its usually next to USB ports and you can actually fit a USB cable inside (after smashing the inside pins) easily
night halo
Interesting, just can't find out what exactly you have there - seems this one never made it into production - you have pretty much top tier (in that generation) from what i saw so far xD
night halo
it's 2133 so it makes sense
ik, still low JEDEC (tho, didn't know they have even lower specs - i only knew this and the 4 higher ones, thus i thought you running the lowest possible (still JEDEC) speed xP) - btw their sister CPU's are listed to handle 1600MHz / 3200MT/s (it should even run with 4 double-ranked modules, iirc Intels RAM controllers are more robust than AMDs)
lost fossil
Interesting, just can't find out what exactly you have there - seems this one ne...
it's an 11980hk es cpu bga'd onto a motherboard - so no upgradeability
night halo
it's an 11980hk es cpu bga'd onto a motherboard - so no upgradeability
tf? - sodered mobile CPU's on desktop board ๐ฑ - so other countrys other products i guess ๐
@lost fossil so one of these?
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/compare.html?productIds=213800,213801,213803
but wich one? - and still strange it says engineering sample...
Well, as long it runs and is sufficient, better than nothing - tho i wouldn't buy a sodered CPU on desktop board, you can cheap out on the CPU and upgrade later if necessary - especially with AMD you can buy a better board for cheaper and run several generations on it, only needing a BIOS Update^^
lost fossil
that whole deal was about $160
maybe it's an 11900h instead of 11980hk idk
still a solid deal
charred otter
Oreo
iron lantern
Lmfao i bought a corsair 7000D and i guess it arrived while i was at work
FUCK
THIS DAD
A WALKING W
hexed crystal
lol
charred otter
<:bucket_of_catto:817818749742481409>
You send pic of my thing and then no reply
twin badger
Lmfao i bought a corsair 7000D and i guess it arrived while i was at work
Bro, why yo dad talking like that ๐
iron lantern
how old is he?
hexed crystal
Bro, why yo dad talking like that ๐
thats just the way he is lmao
hexed crystal
how old is he?
Hes turning 50 in september
iron lantern
damn
twin badger
On a side note, my headset is busted 
charred otter
Meanwhile
hexed crystal
skizz did you run out of premium
charred otter
charred otter
Electrical tape for the win!
cold elbow
used to have something like that
twin badger
Mine has sound on just one side and it plays on both if i twist the cable
cold elbow
owned a set that i loved and didnt want to replace
charred otter
skizz did you run out of premium
I never had it mr saturn
charred otter
owned a set that i loved and didnt want to replace
hexed crystal
I never had it mr saturn
I thought you had silver
hexed crystal
i have the corsair virtuosos and they are pretty slick
charred otter
That ended up lasting several months
lost fossil
he claimed a 6 month long week trial 
hexed crystal
he claimed a 6 month long week trial <:skull_cap:889421894242160670>
Lmfao
charred otter
Lmfao
But now im PC master race
And getting a PC
And probably a new headset at some point
PC first
night halo
Electrical tape for the win!
ISO Tape is elastic - better is gaffa/panzer/tank/idk how it's called in your country, it's a fabric tape - that holds everything, rather permanently unless you bought way to cheap! ๐ (it's like 8-12 bucks per decent enough roll, up to 18 if you want the endzone quality one)
night halo
But now im PC master race
Welcome to the dark side - now have fun dealing with all the stuff you could furiously point your finger towards your consoles manufacturer previously, but now it's your liability! ๐
But hey, you also no longer helpless - most issues hardly solvable on a console are often an .ini edit away on PC xD
twin badger
Wow, my old hyperx headset sounds like tin cans...
Awesome, just what i needed for a thursday evening - for my headset to break
charred otter
Awesome, just what i needed for a thursday evening - for my headset to break
That is such pain
I left my dongle at school recently and the very next day was snow day and i was pissed cuz i couldn't play shit for 2 days straight
snow rover
don't you just hate it when you forget your dongle
twin badger
On the bright side of things - the monitor arrived from the RMA
night halo
Wow, my old hyperx headset sounds like tin cans...
๐
- i love my cloud alpha, tho i could use some new earcaps - damn synthetic leather xP
night halo
I left my dongle at school recently and the very next day was snow day and i was...
better have different devices for mobile (cheap, so it's no loss if damaged and not as attractive for others to steal) and home (quality) ๐
snow rover
cloud alpha sounds surprisingly not very offensive for a gaming headset
night halo
On the bright side of things - the monitor arrived from the RMA
and, already tested if you got actually repaired/replacement?^^
night halo
cloud alpha sounds surprisingly not very offensive for a gaming headset
idc how it's name sounds, as long the headset sounds good (and not to bass tuned like most cheap ones) and isn't utterly expensive!
(fyi, it's still bass but also middle heavy, with still clear highs - but you better buy used now, as HP bought it quite some time ago and they are known to crap good products! - so also don't buy "as new", your chances are high getting HP one! - buy used, if you can see age dmg like that damn synth-leather you have a good chance to get a good one ๐
snow rover
of course i meant the sound, not the name
lol
i bought used cloud alphas for 10 bucks just to see what they were like
they're definitely very much bassy
night halo
i bought used cloud alphas for 10 bucks just to see what they were like
damn, how they are so cheap now? (o.O) - i paid 40+shipping used when they costed 70 on lowest new xP
twin badger
and, already tested if you got actually repaired/replacement?^^
Eh no, ASUS thinks excess backlight bleed is completely normal and that it's not their responsibility to fix that.
Probably wont be buying an ASUS monitor anytime soon
with this kind of QC
night halo
they're definitely very much bassy
sadly can't read that properly, but as said, they are still bass heavy - just not as absurd as most other "gaming" headsets - and to my ears it's just the best i tried^^ (even compared to a Sennheiser, but i got told they lost quality - none of my actually audiophile friends has newer Sennheisers, only old ones - pretty sad how cheaper quality but still expensive prize rules the world - why can't we manufacture pruducts in 3 categories - cheap but durable with decent enough quality, good quality and longevity, and high end best quality possible with longevity in mind (to reduce resource wastage and ensure all that effort put into making best quality lasts for as long as possible - even if it might be outdated and replaced by better, but you could still use it)
twin badger
all cheap monitors are like that
Seen that happen on ASUS a bit more often...
Either way, with a little tweaking its... acceptable
hopefully...
twin badger
5 dead pixels? that's just margin of error
Well, the acceptable amount of dead pixels differs from one manufacturer to another...
night halo
Eh no, ASUS thinks excess backlight bleed is completely normal and that it's not...
yea, sadly reality - i had to open my monitor and fix it myself with a new diffusor - ain't cheap but also not unreasonable expensive
snow rover
i mean do you really have to ask why we can't manufacture things the way you propose
snow rover
i wasn't responding to you
night halo
i mean do you really have to ask why we can't manufacture things the way you pro...
it's a matter of standardization - there are many industries that have done it, just look at computer components - you can even compare it to the wild east where they frankenstein components that are then incompatible or cause issues with others ๐
snow rover
no, it's not a matter of standardization
it's free market economics
people want to buy cheap junk
i'm fine with buying $500 headphones and using them for a decade, but clearly that's not the majority
most people buy cheap true wireless shit and throw it away in a year when the completely unserviceable battery fails
night halo
it's free market economics
yep, and look around where that brought us - we know about climate change (or better said, aqunowledged it being a serious problem) in the 1950s already - to this day we still haven't changed even remotely enough to prevent it, our children pay the prize now!
iron lantern
5 dead pixels? that's just margin of error
its like that through all tiers of moniters
snow rover
no it isn't
iron lantern
yes it is
snow rover
lg will replace their higher end monitors even for 1 dead pixel
iron lantern
exactly
charred otter
I got an LG monitor
iron lantern
u payed for every pixel u expect every pixel to work in a 2k monitor
charred otter
Best choice in life
snow rover
right but not every manufacturer will do that
iron lantern
they mostly do
snow rover
some will say 5 dead pixels is not grounds for a warranty claim
iron lantern
if ur taking some lesser known manufacture probably not
snow rover
where as lg will actually give you a good panel
iron lantern
thats why mainstream manufacturers are better in this sense
night halo
many retailers offer a affordable option (often as low as 20-40 bucks) to eighter guarantee a replacement due to pixel errors or even a pretest and zero dead pixel guarantee - while i personally have had luck without that service, despite buying cheap and even used (had like 2 monitors in my whole life that had Pixel issues - off of over 10-12 i posessed over the years), to me it depends on the type, a dead pixel is much less offensive than a damn defect pixel that constantly glows in the same color! ๐
wispy mesa
So theres a dead pixel percentage that humans will return vs not return monitors
night halo
in my country it actually starts at 3 Pixel errors, regardless the kind - but afaik it's a voluntarily guarantee by the retailers, and monitors have (had) a 15-20% profit margin - pretty high compared to other stuff (GPU's as example hardly had 5%, ~4% for us back in the day - i must admit i'm out the branch over 10 years, things might have changed!)
delicate vine
Need someone to help with college statistics
pliant lynx
Send it here
lilac heath
Yeah bro, that 6.5 fps totally looks playable
That Comparison just shows that how newer AMD GPUs perform with RT
But tbh i dont care much about ray tracing anyway since its not worth the fps hit compared to visual quality
But if u are gonna spend 1k+ on a gpu,it should have decent rt performance if not at the top
hexed crystal
Aweeee yeah. New case and 6 new cordair iCue fans
lost fossil
the cost of a high end cpu in just the fans alone
hexed crystal
the cost of a high end cpu in just the fans alone
no
fans were like 140 cad
cpu was 600
hexed crystal
All these fans and aircooler
i do want to get a water cooler soon yes
just need to get the money to do it
supple walrus
@sullen plank like I'm looking at a near top of the line consumer rig for when I finish school this year and it's only like 5k for everything
Like
Basically top of the line consumer
sullen plank
<@655312818522030080> like I'm looking at a near top of the line consumer rig fo...
Ah like a prebuilt?
Anyway yea that case without the front mesh grill (which is worse) is going for the same price as that one here lol
cold elbow
just need to get the money to do it
buys more corsair fans REEEEEEE
hexed crystal
*buys more corsair fans REEEEEEE*
you know it
cold elbow
Icue is so nice
supple walrus
Basically top of the line consumer
3080 (more likely 4080 given prices drops) and a 7900x (was 7700x, but prices difference is minimal so will go 7900x3d), 6tb SSD storage, and twin monitors and whatnot. And with a rig like that it only came out to like $5.5k
Which is like
3 weeks work
hexed crystal
Icue is so nice
It is
supple walrus
Not even
hexed crystal
However.
supple walrus
@sullen plank
cold elbow
Wtf
nova steppe
why 6tb all ssd?
cold elbow
That never happened to me
hexed crystal
That never happened to me
Memory leak moment
sullen plank
3080 (more likely 4080 given prices drops) and a 7900x (was 7700x, but prices di...
Oh yea got the newer gen 10nm core CPUs too huh
That's damn good
cold elbow
Tbh i only use icue mainly for my keyboard macros
sullen plank
I skimped out and got a 11th gen instead of 12th lol
hexed crystal
Tbh i only use icue mainly for my keyboard macros
ah
well now i have corsair fans, a corsair keyboard, and a corsair headset
cold elbow
Yeah rgb is static so it doesn't use CPU power
hexed crystal
might get a corsair watercooler and corsair mouse if my g502 shits the bed
cold elbow
Idk which corsair mouse is good for me
cold elbow
They dont have that interesting collection
cold elbow
I have G403
programmed it then removed the software
sullen plank
Anyway of y'all know how to install a water cooler
hexed crystal
the corsair nightsword rgb looks nice
cold elbow
Anyway of y'all know how to install a water cooler
Yup they are usually easier than aircoolers
hexed crystal
Anyway of y'all know how to install a water cooler
yeah
cold elbow
But u need to pay attention to fans direction
hexed crystal
just screw the aio onto your cpu then put the radiator wherever the fuck and bada bing bada boom you have water cooling
cold elbow
I screw the rad first then install pump
sullen plank
Think I may have messed up mounting the washers for the backplate
Idk it's arctic cool not sure if it's easier or harder than those other brands
hexed crystal
I screw the rad first then install pump
no drill a screw from one of the mounting brackets straight through your cpu, one big pin is better than several small ones
cold elbow
I have arctic liquid freezer 2
nova steppe
I bought a pack of 10 SP120s off of reddit a couple years back. 6 were PWM and the rest DC, I think. Messed up one of the mounting holes (it was like, all rubber, so they just ripped), so I sold it, along with my stock case fans at the time. I think I paid like, $50, when just a 2-pack of those fans at the time was $33
that was, of course, less than a month before I found out about Actic
cold elbow
Meanwhile 5x arctic p12 cost like 32$
hexed crystal
why use icue at all <:hmmm:960802534728036394>
because all my shit is corsair
lost fossil
but signal effects are nicer
sullen plank
I have arctic liquid freezer 2
Did you get those washer things for the backplate exactly right on your first try lol
I'll pull out a pic to show how badly I flunked
cold elbow
Think im still using the AMD backplate
However check Gamersnexus review of them... they have step by step guide on how to install them.
sullen plank
However check Gamersnexus review of them... they have step by step guide on how ...
Yea thank God for my man Steve
twin badger
But if u are gonna spend 1k+ on a gpu,it should have decent rt performance if no...
It is pointless, rarely anyone probably uses it on a high end nvidia card
midnight elm
Aweeee yeah. New case and 6 new cordair iCue fans
night halo
Arctic p12 master race
while arctic isn't bad and rather good fans for an unbeatable low prizepoint - noctua is still performance king - tho, i bought my arctics because i needed a lot and energy efficient, and they are the best choice for my usecase - and that matters more than Brand.
night halo
Aweeee yeah. New case and 6 new cordair iCue fans
overprized roomlighting ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ - i have 1 RGB Fan and hooked it up to a temperature controller to have an indication how hot my PC runs xD
cold elbow
Wellll
P12 are great performers with low noise compared to noctua fans...
And u get 5 for the price of 1 noctua fan
sound at 1100rpm for free
cold elbow
yeah cool but upgrading what? it's all soldiered and that fan cools nothing lol
ofc it would look cool if you cant upgrade anything
https://youtu.be/h7mNA2L_6Z4 also good news
sharp idol
Who said anything about upgrading?
lost fossil
laptop 
snow rover
i like the gpu airflow situation
lost fossil
what do you like about it
snow rover
it is goofy
iron lantern
100% no gpu overheating issues
lost fossil
we'll see about gpu overheating issues with 2 fans blasting air into it ig
cold elbow
I have one blasting my gpu all day long cus it spins the fans at 55C or some shiz
sour marsh
spiral jasper
laptop <:GWseremePeepoHappy:402867832175460363>
How's the airflow, seems pretty good to be you have a fan on the front of the case
You must be getting very low temps
lost fossil
You must be getting very low temps
can't tell yet, i ended up having to reinstall ัindoัs so no gaming on that pc just yet
lost fossil
ye because the psu is exhausting at the front so i figured it wouldn't be great to have fans fighting
lost fossil
this mobo from aliexpress, 6600m from aliexpress, rgb fans from aliexpress, 32gb 3200cl16 dual rank ram from aliexpress
the 500w fractal ion sfx is not from aliexpress, the noctua d9L isn't and so aren't these 2 be quiet fans
brave field
aliexpress is really shockingly good when it comes to pc components
lost fossil
yeah
brave field
This your main system from here?
lost fossil
i brought in some parts from my existing pc at work to put this one together so this is gonna technically be an upgrade for my work pc
brave field
you get to buy take components from your job?
lost fossil
no, i built a pc to play games at work 
size comparison vs average mid tower case and the toaster size a07/k39
snow rover
i like aliexpress but man is it painful to wait
50 m3 set screws for 62 cents and free shipping
twin badger
What else can you expect from free shipping
twin badger
Ok and how many people use digikey and how many use aliexpress?
snow rover
apparently both have around the same net worth
sure aliexpress has way more buyers, but they're people like me spending 62 cents
lost fossil
put together the list of all parts if intredasted 
https://pastebin.com/YPn2Czjg
snow rover
a
brave field
11980 Hong Kong
Shenzhen man for the motherboard CPU Base Plate
snow rover
these random Chinese brand names are great
hidden gale
Agreed
wispy mesa
hah welcome
spiral jasper
size comparison vs average mid tower case and the toaster size a07/k39
That thing has like no airflow ๐
Ye or ney
snow rover
funny you say no airflow then have a list with the nzxt h7
arctic yarrow
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PgTKtn
Why do you have two headsets and 4 sleeved PSU cable sets in that build?
spiral jasper
funny you say no airflow then have a list with the nzxt h7
Wdym that thing has alright airflow
It's just on the side so it isn't noticed
spiral jasper
Why do you have two headsets and 4 sleeved PSU cable sets in that build?
1 headset is for gaming and the other is for music on the go
snow rover
you can have terrible audio but twice!
also no, the h7 does not have decent airflow
removing the front panel drops temps 10c
that's bad
spiral jasper
The top airflow is what matters
snow rover
snow rover
do you like not understand what i said at all
if removing the front panel drops your temps from 70 to 60, the airflow is bad
spiral jasper
The 4 sleeved cables aren't all cables some are just cable combs because the corsair cables don't come with those
And the 16 pin to tripe 8 is needed for the graphics card
spiral jasper
if removing the front panel drops your temps from 70 to 60, the airflow is bad
Yeah your right
What should I get then
The flow version
?
snow rover
i mean if you really want that look then yes
spiral jasper
I updated the list
Since the h7 flow has no rbg fans I had to get some and I removed one of the sleeved cables
spiral jasper
you can have terrible audio but twice!
What's with this?
Terrible audio twice?
Ik razer isn't good with audio but I'm biased so idc
snow rover
well neither is sony
spiral jasper
Well damn
spiral jasper
So xm5 is bad?
I've heard nothing but praises for it (not counting the price) and I've listened to them before I like them
snow rover
is it a bad product? no
does it reproduce audio in a natural, pleasant way (what i would call good)? absolutely not
spiral jasper
Then what do you recommend
spiral jasper
Bruh
Goddamm audiophiles
Here's updated version
4 fans so I can switch all of the existing ones to rgb
lost fossil
That thing has like no airflow ๐
why are you saying that
the only thing that has no airflow is my main pc case, the ld01b
twin badger
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qPQrbK
2 different headsets?
lost fossil
one for chilling, another for the sigma grindset
these aren't that great btw
don't ask how i know
spiral jasper
2 different headsets?
One for music while outdoors and while being racist on the computer
spiral jasper
these aren't that great btw
How so?
spiral jasper
Corsair cables don't have those so I'm only getting them to make it tidier
twin badger
Man... people out there casually getting $300+ headphones
spiral jasper
only when you asplain why that thing has no airflow <:yobahiding:407305921421901...
Sorry I didn't notice the fan on the power supply
Immaculate air flow
twin badger
I'm not the one paying
spiral jasper
My friend is and he is too rich at the moment so he offerd to buy me a pc and whatever for my birthday
twin badger
That couldnt be me
lost fossil
man casually ignores the other 6 fans all arranged for the bottom to top, rear to front air movement
spiral jasper
Oh
I fr didnt notice those
I thought you were using the psu fan to move air ๐
lost fossil
in any case, these combs will eventually bend with the cable if the cable is stiff enough, unless you use two of them next to each other in opposing ways
that will happen to any comb that goes over both wires from one side of the cable
idk it's hard to explain rn 
if you can find combs like this, that would be much better
cold elbow
U can find these cheap on ali express
lost fossil
u actually can't, or at least not as easily
lost fossil
don't ask how i know
jovial tide
Could the wire break of my controller is like this?
Im scared to play cuz i dont want it to break
snow rover
assuming you aren't hanging weights from it, no
cold elbow
why would it break?
jovial tide
Cuz it is bending at the jack wich idk if its bad for it
cold elbow
just be extra careful with it and it should be fine
lost fossil
basically, don't be a jackass and it will be absolutely fine
jovial tide
Aight, thanks for the help
im just scared to use them cuz my headsets always break early
snow rover
maybe stop buying cheap garbage and it won't happen
snow rover
that cable does not look very expensive
snow rover
why would you buy a headset with a fixed cable
cold elbow
love my thicccccccccc M40X cable
u can probably pull a car with it.
jovial tide
My next one will be one that has deatachable (I think you say itike that) corx
jovial tide
why would you buy a headset with a fixed cable
Ik i f ed up
I only thinked about it after we bought it
snow rover
this is a proper cable
jovial tide
My dumbass cant figure out where you plug that big end
snow rover
it's a normal 4 pin xlr
jovial tide
Bruh im still in stone age
can you please make a pic of the mammoth sized headphone you can plug it in?
Im curius
snow rover
the big end doesn't go into the headphones 