#gta-vehicles
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Lmao

whats that green server?
The buzzard is really awesome imo against normal homing missiles because it looks like something out of a bullet time scene in the matrix.
Must be a bain to mod 
Already answered
i didnt see
You scrolled past it to see the picture
nah

@regal patrol cheer up anyways, once the winter dlc (or possibly an upcoming summer update) hits, you'll never regret keeping up with the times
"Green modmail" is less words than "You scrolled past it to see the picture"
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Skill issue
no, skull issue is good too
I swear ive never been able to pop the hood on the impalar
you've been having those hood pins on for the entire time 
Why is it the impalar is the one car where the hood pins actually work
U took more time typing this than u could have scrolled

i copy pasted
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coughs in HKR
Laughs in never used it
@robust swallow say hi u

coughs in Jester RR
Never used those options
Gauntlet Classic Custom?
The tulip as well
the beater dukes should too iirc
do car mirror work in gta ps5 xbox x?
its just kinda funny the mirrors are just blurs
i feel like making my remus look like an ol stock s13
you can see urself in them
Never used it
that is so funky
train
your cars all look floaty š¤
last 1
𤔠šÆ
ignus pics turned out alright
well blaze wanted to bring a m22b

das fine tho, am happy with the results and had fun
Me no own ignus on xbox
Wait hold on let me find the photo
Got damn, shelby convertible
Whatās the best car in the game ?
Tooooooreador.
The MOC Cab
every car is the best car 
Lmaooo
If you want to go by the most durable one at least
No way the real Retro and Tim here rn
especially the Karin Dilettante
I want to get a car for races
you're still alive? 
Somehow
@regal patrol do I need to contact for removal of shitposter role

Coil cyclone Is good
ronan went thru the fire and the flames
MK2 or MK1? 

the weaponized ignus is probably the most fun car you can get
Either is good, but the mk2 is likely better
Hello chat
the mk2 really is a glass cannon
i technically have a playstation 5 so might play from there sometime
it's the fastest accelerating car in the game but it doesn't turn for shit
True
dilettante with hsw upgrades...? :o
zentorno is kinda slow by today's standards
what car is fast?
Do u know how much the coil cyclone is?
top speed or acceleration
top speed
its 1.89m
so whats the fastest car by top speed?š¤
for you, the Ocelot Pariah
probably :I i just googled and the price of the car itself is 1.89m but idk the upgrades
wdym for you?
Hey
karin s95
Yes.
because you're on pc 
Soup
oh there is better cars on xbox?
are* and yes
Soup brotha
yeah on Xbox and PS we have a lot faster cars
same for ps
Do low grips and lowered still work?
yes if you're comparing to our unmodded cars
yes but my god no
oh :o are they planning to add them on pcs orrr?
Lol
my friend got an S95 on low grips and it's just unbearable
I was so annoyed we couldn't lower the s95, would've fit so nice with my build
I mean HSW suspension is fine
Is alright
btw is crossplay enabled in gta?
nope
Imagine though
no
looks pretty nice
I only played for the first day but if there's one thing they got right it's r* editor stills improvements
The definition of the lines š
i think exists on s2 too if you remove the plate
Yikes
ok build,,,,,,,,,,,,,
yo i got a question. i saw someone with a sports car. it had a quite sharp and small front with the seats pretty far forward and 2 round muffler. does anyone know what car that was?
what would u say it resembled
what car is that?
remus
Annis Remus
whats the best car for drifting on pc?

puh. maybe like a Tezerak lookalike
screenshot
tezerak??
yeah something like that
yesss
ya, it's the deveste eight then
where can i buy it?
legendary motorsport
thank u
search by price, it is 1.7 mil
okay thank you
np
Whew
Sex
š³
It dont even need low grips. Its already Slidey as it is
@lunar jay you've leveled up since I've last seen your pics
Itās also raining there.
Server level?
pics
being honest i dont even know how to access the rockstar editor
Go to story mode, itās the very last tab in the pause menu.
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Thatās also where you can manage your saved recordings and replays.
youre telling me i can only mess around with my online stuff in story mode ?
Nono.
Itās just where you edit the recordings.
Or
Yes
?
alright thank you xd
Oh, thank you 
Even without rain its still slidey
Basically anything your record in the replay stuff just needs to be in offline mode because it basically creates a new āsessionā to remake the recording. So doing that online would take hours.
of course, credit where credit is due
I remember when you first posted your slammed jb in some underground parking lot
Sheeeesh

Low āAshtonā 
Laptimes on broughyās track from my friend
S95
1:04.448 (HSW Disabled) / Sports C/B
0:59.310 (HSW Enabled) / Sports S
Cyclone II
0:59.476 (HSW Disabled) / Supers B
0:55.723 (HSW Enabled) / Supers S
W. Ignus
0:58.108 (HSW Disabled / Supers A (S?)
0:55.523 (HSW Enabled) / Supers S
yeah that seems about right
How much a normal car does
the weaponized ignus getting a better laptime than the regular ignus even without the hsw upgrades is so strange tho
Obviously the weapons reduce the carās weight /s
cyclone 2 getting a sub-1 minute laptime normally is impressive
The Krieger does a 58.1 lap time for reference
Hmm
wdym weights
Does the emerus do in 57s ir 56s range?
Oh
55???
That smokes the krieger
at least we'll still have two options at the top
In my track i had a huge difference but then again it's larger
It beats the Krieger by 2 or 3 seconds
weaponized ignus and cyclone 2 would be the two i'm referring to lol
Ah
so it's still preferably compared to classes like sports classics
where the turismo classic can now do 1 minute laptimes
That's fast
for comparison, it would do 1:04s before
which the second fastest sports classic currently does
The turismo C is also much nicer now in the city
Another sports classic that blew me away with its handling is the d type
He rolling
You playing in china or what?
just because he uses chinese hud doesn't mean he's playing in china
It was simply a question.
yes but don't accuse
Not very usual to see someone to play with chinese language for their HUD
ik
Also, i aint accusing...?
you could've simply asked are you playing on china
but you said you playing in china or what?
And whats the issue here?


nothing, just don't accuse
look who's speaking, if you want to start an argument then don't
Why are we arguing about this
But you started it w me
Ask him
Stupid thing to argue about
then stop making this any longer
Man really pressed over "or what"
Just shut up, stop making a fuss about this
Same goes for you guy
Never change, GTA channels. Never change.

exactly, stop calling people weird
yeah ik
But you are weird in this case

i'll ignore you then, don't want to waste my time arguing
Good
That was the most braindead conversation
There was literally no point in going after him, it was a perfectly fine question, he wasn't accusing anyone, he was just asking a question
Anyway, repost
Thats a nice yellow
cream
Fat asses left the doors open
Is it hard to learn how to use rockstar editor for pics? I wanna try it
nah it's really easy
It's really easy to use it actually
the hard part is photoshopping, which i do
Ah
but it's fine without photoshop
I don't use photoshop since I'm on console and lazy to transfer that many times
don't use rockstar editor filters, they're not the best
here's an example of a basic one
I had to, it was too dark without it
Yea, that looks good
But I wanted that specific spot
the angle is the important part
for the jump?
Yes
there's a lot of better spots for jumps
or if you like the location you can photo it on daytime
Offroad jumps put the car either side ways or pointing up/down
Then correct it
I avoid night clips now
it's nice if you have good lighting
Not enough time, it gets too close once corrected
Didn't think of it
Are we there yet?
wdym by that
It's a meme of some kids cartoon where 2 kids are always asking "Are we there yet?" and then it cuts to a car like that jumping off a cliff while the father says "let's play a game"
oh
didn't know that
You can easily find it on YT
Anyone else getting this
Poor internet connection
Wrong channel
Ughhh
I feel attacked
Nice pagani
it's a murcielago
well the front is
hm?
yes, zonda
Eargasm
Embed fail

where and which
I don't have lambo pics 
I don't think I even have super car pics
I wanna buy the vacca soon
iām letting you know rn, thereās nothing you can do to it
it looks nice
but nothing
aside from a carbon hood and 2 spoilers practically nothing
a bit ig
IK, I have it in story mode and I like it that way
front does looks nice but not sure about the rear
oh, and exhaust
Why does this look like someone's pov when they fall in love in teenagers series?
what?
it's a car
you're just weird
I mean the pink ish color
it's cool and stylised
how
not you
oh
but not the car
Yeah obv
So I'm not weird, ppl just don't know what I was talking about
Whatās the best car to get in the game just now
depends
On what
Comet S2
fastest accelerating car
fastest top speed
looks best
Fastest lap car
Fastest top speed
karin s95
And the one that looks best
looks are from opinion
Comet s2
S2 cabrio
Is there a car similar to the bmw m4?
Just say S2 and let go look for it while looking at others
ubermacht cypher probably, it's mostly an m2
I prefer s2 for rally builds
Man, the yellow on turismo classic 
same yellow with everything else, i think
Bunch of bananas

cheese
No, bananas
Yes....cypher
We want bananas 
@candid venture why.?
Why what? Reply to the msg
Yeah someone already said that but thanks anyway
I don't like the Elegy custom
@candid venture whatttttt why.?
I just don't
And you like supra.?
Meh
That is š©
It's shit tbh
Yea...
Every JDM car meet has 90% those 2
which supra and which skyline
Now thats cheddar cheese
skyline looks cool and it goes fast too
lol
Wouldnt say its that fast
I just don't like the Elegy custom, I wasn't talking about the skyline
@candid venture i think they are same in game š
no, that's ripe banana
I'm referring to the irl skyline 
I have s2 cabrio....that looks awsome...
@candid venture aaahhh...thats is -------
But irl supraa.....is also like shit...
Isn't it.?
What's the gta supra btw?
Wait
Calico?
I know
@novel valley man ššš@narrow viper
What the hell is going on here
@ember canopy we are just asking each other ..how to make burger š
i guess your vision of ww3 is me saying bruh
and previon is not supra, looks nothing like it
Mhhh burger
Man ....
And I agree the previon is not a poopra
Anyway...

In what context
Send 1 message instead of 4. Why did u ping me? What is ur garage?
So are you looking for more muscles? A fast muscle car?
Don't say irl names, use gta names pls
been debating on buying the flash gt or the one that looks like a ford rs200

Got a pic of it?
yea one sec i just forgot the name if it in gta lol
i swear there was on like this
one*
Oh GB200
Now that's a hard choice
I'd go with flash gt
ahh okay
@candid venture Bravado Gauntlet
I'd take the hellfire instead
I have that
i have more cars on the way
Now.?
Get the dominators
Noice
@regal patrol you are saying to me sir.?
Yes
Okay okay
GB2000 is so hard to drive
What is this.?
tofu shop vibes
i dont drive my remus often, no pics sadly
ive been driving my lynx most now
its not slammed btw i was just turning hard
Whats the best car for drifting on pc?
just use a controller, makes drifting far easier
banshee 900r is a good choice
Dont have one :/ idk in wich car do drift either plus im downloading gta v still for 18 hours almost so yeah just asking for some good cars to drift in
the stock futo is nice too
Okayyy thanks š
Well you can't keep it if you get it off the street
Oh nvm
Thought we were still on the banshee, you can keep the futo if you steal it
Just dont forget to insure it
It's arguably a pastel yellow
Can a controller pro help me
My camera keeps going down
I can't make it stop at a position
What to do
its just stick drift
It stops after sometime
Iāve been playing for a long time and the only thing I want in the world is a police car of any sort. Is it possible? Anyone can help.
i think theres a super rare police car that only spawns during one mission
A good one probably
what you into
yea but like what
drifting
then get a grip (pun intended) 
ok but like what car
The rarest police cars I think is the unmarked stainer (or whatever it is) and a buffalo
i see alot of drifters rocking the remus
san andreas super autos
ok price?
leaves you with plenty of cash to modify
Probably because it is the only tuners car that doesn't fully rely on double-clutching to drift
yea fax all ive been doing is buying supercars and putting them in my office garage
The handling flags applied to the others completely ruined them
i dunno i never saw the point in gta drifting aside from photography
yea
For fun obviously lol
imma try to make 3m buy only using passive income
Thereās something satisfying about drifting perfectly around a curve
like nightclubs and mc clubs
yh i suppose it is pretty fun, but getting sweaty about it just sounds a bit dumb
be prepared to do like 5000 nightclub managementsš
ik
imma be spending at least 140m on upgrading my mc clubs
my weed factory my money factory
Oops
u would think the car shaped like a cheese wedge would be the ramp in that scenario
Then again, the Phoenix is pretty sloped as well
From where can I buy feltzer?
Ohk thx
anyone want to have a car meet
@tidal pebble thank you
That was just after a race 
lets all climb mt chiliad in futos
I like driving up mount chilliad in supercars
The road that connects vespucci beach to the paleto bay area is nice
Hello fellow lynx admirer
casco
Feltzer drifts so good
I guessed right
Im disappointed in the felter
Why?
So many vents and fins and whatnot
Any car meets?
Feltzer in gta 4 was one of the best benefactors in gta series
Me or the car
I hate the car
Thanks god i hate that thing
I agree but imo, the og schafter is the best benefactor
Aah the old one in 4
Yes
Nice car yea
I like it more than the current ones
i like the old schafter
The wheels are really tucked in
Ohk
Can aid for some funny results sometimes when it comes to wheel choice
Ooooooooooooh you mean the GTA IV Schafter
I always liked that one
Especially the one that spawned in black
Yea
vincent is also very cool
I drove that yesterday
Galant and BMW combined, something is just cool about that
Handles better than the oracle for some reason
Has a nice exhaust note too
i think maibatsu's only received one new car as dlc
That seems about right
I only remember the Penumbra FF
The regular Penumbra got a few liveries w/ After Hours, but I don't think that can count
Oh yea
and the two mule variants definitely do not count
I like the ff but almost everyone ik slapped a body kit on it
They should've given us the Steed in replacement for the Benson or Mule
It just screams Chevy/Ford to me
I like that
It would be cool to have some new utility vehicles in game u know
Volvo trucks and whatnot
But i don't see the business case
Yeah
R* made some decisions when it came to adding older vehicles from the previous game(s)
This would've been miles better than the F620
Same
Yes
Im driving it rn
I really like that aswell
Its rwd
Could've given the Oracle that Alpina kit as well
It looked so good idk why they didnāt add it
Yep
Whatās the best car for a little bit over two mil
Lot of nice cars under 2 mill those over are too flashy for my taste
I never noticed, but there is literally a Pfister Neon advert on the Blonded LS radio station
They should do more of those
I'd actually listen to the advertisements instead of switching radio stations
Yea
How do I change the headlight colors
There a delittante prius ad in gta 4 tbogt
Arena or ls car meet
ok but I want an Oracle Classic that's like the BMW E38
literally a James Bond car, should have come in The Contract rather than one of the shitty SUVs
750IL?
That shape is pretty nice
I prefer the E39 M5 though
There was kinda not really tho
Thereās one for bravados, and one for the yosemite
yeah but that's more of a sports sedan. E38 is pure luxury and is my favorite luxury car, whereas E39 is my favorite sports sedan
Bruh the entirety of Arena Wars gamemodes is an ad for a truck
Anyone know how I unlock these tires?
Level up
Hm ok
alternatively, go to LSCM or buy an auto shop
I am at the ls car meet
Hmm u need an autoshop or higher level
U can see the specific requirement to unlock if u mod in a mod shop
How much is an auto shop
Above 2 mil but not sure
Try mazebank foreclosure website
hello
Cheapest is 1.6 mil
Ha there u go
Too fast for the game
Every answer for that is subjective so its always 'depends'
Oppressor!
great car
Stx kek
Noice
Only dodge can sell practically the same car for 10+ years and still make it cool
What is the best plane for dog fighting?
Starling
is the pariah still the fastest car in the game
on e&e, no
Anyone on next gen got a Buffalo stx on low grips?
Any car meets goin on?
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I realisedā¦..
U didnāt have to run it in
Rub*
The licence plate placement further ruins the grille
they should put multiple license plates there to cover how big the grille is
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i wonder if iFruit even works on E&E
Is it the casino heist buffalo?
Iāve been playing for a long time and the only thing I want in the world is a police car of any sort. Is it possible? Anyone can help.
Which cars can get missile lock on jammer?
Mk2 is so bad
I always keep getting blasted when Iām drifting
Jubilee,granger,buffalo, and humvee, and Bentley
Ohk thanks
What is Imani tech?
I have never heard of it
Can I access it through los santos?
you need to buy an agency
Whatās the first car I should get as a new player to help me out in heists n stuff?
Armoured kuruma
If ur doing heists
Ohk
Okie
Thank
Nah
Only low grip tires
Drifting
Is the Ignus car able to be HAO upgraded? Since it is in the contracts dlc?
The base one not the weapon used
ANYONE WANT A CAR MEET?
No

I just want tank buddies man! Rockstar did me dirtyā¦
Stop giving me nightmares
Are u on old gen or new gen?
Ps4.
Wanna be tank buddies?
Sure.
ANYONE WANT A CAR MEET?
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What are the new cars
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hey guys i have a prob my cars dont turn to the silver colour on chrome they stay black
does anyone know what should i do
Can someone tell me what the fastest car is
I've been telling everyone, its this one
I think the F1 cars
You're looking at the fastest car
like fr
Ocelot Pariah
Which car is the Honda civic
Type R?
The older drift style
What?
Yea type r
Sugoi
Ssasa or legendary?
Anyone tryna show off cars and drive around :)
Ssasa sorry
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is this real ?
irl, yea
What car is this?
Noice
jugular i think
why is it real
Ty, was about to buy the massacro by mistake
they're off their rocker over at bmw
Is that one of the new chameleon colours?
what are some good wheels to put on the futo gtx? I canāt find any good ones
Ah never mind the ones I were looking for where in the ls car meet
E&E was just GTA5 for PS5 and Xbox whatever the new ones, but paid and account transferring was a maybe
the functionality for chameleon paints was actually added with the contract update, but the actual colours they've added exclusively for e&e
so unlike the rest of the new content, you can use mods to play around with chameleon paint on pc
Didn't know the functionality was added for The Contract. Kinda wish the other aspects were playable
most of the chameleon paints look weird
Would love the new cars and Hao upgrades though
I was in a calico with max acceleration and top speed and got shit on by this car called the vectre? I've never seen anyone use it so I was wondering if it's good
Speed wise no
It is very good for racing though
When selling vehicles, how long is the delay?
Even when the tuners dlc cars were speedglitched, it was pretty slow for me
what was the scenario where the vectre beat u
in terms of chameleon paint, itās opened up a new door for car people
all i gotta say āMSO Colorsā

At the start of the race, it beat my acceleration and then stayed in first throughout the race
I mean according to Terra, there's still the possibility that someone on FiveM could incorporate chameleon paints
would still prefer Hao's upgrades though
also next gen console only
Vectre is better around the corners
Might have to buy this vectre then and try it out
Calico should not have been as good as it was, and the Comet S2 should have been the best of the LS Tuners by far
considering what the irl cars, it should not have even been comparable
What
Is there any car looks similar to this one thatās pretty good at racing?
but they decided to make the Comet S2 drive like shit
Champion is that bad
the top cars for tuner races are the calico, vectre and sultan rs classic
FMJ has a similar front, but idk if its any good for racing
if you want racing, just get a Krieger
fmj's definitely better performance-wise than the champion, but neither are competitive
Alright thanks
Krieger or Emerus, that's all you need
I got both
ok
Idk, i prefer emerus
more fun to drive
I just really like the style of these cars more than emerus or krieger
yeah but I've driven Krieger but not Emerus
then drive emerus
I get consistent 1st places in Krieger tho
each has its strengths and weaknesses! the calico has good acceleration out of the corners, and the highest top speed of the three i've listed
More challenging, but also more rewarding to drive
If you are a good driver, emerus can beat a krieger
meaning like worse cornering but better speed?
How do you even find good races though
Logic is thrown out the window when a charger is the best muscle car around a track
Alright rank these in best performing cars then
Champion
Fmj
SC1
i think so, handling is def better on krieger, speed wise its emerus
Ignus >>>>>>
lmao no
Ignus feels nice to drive, but idk if it can beat those 2
emerus can handle the kerbs a little better than the krieger
Ignus is good, but not quite as good as Krieger or Emerus
weaponised ignus on e&e, yeah
Yea, curb boosting is pretty effective w it
but regular ignus is a good car, just not emerus/krieger pace
weaponized Ignus tho might be fastest car around a track
most useless vehicle nobody asked for. 3M for a gun with mini guns?
Cyclone 2>>>
No.
Itās the best super car full stop
surprisingly people actually quite like the weaponised ignus lol
SN95 isn't the fastest
Itās the fastest now?
it is pretty pointless tho
Apparently...
the Hakuchou drag is
top speed wise, yes
e
Yes.
thats a bike
Itās 2 full seconds faster than the emerus around a track 
And has a top speed of 141 mph
I find it funny that even with Hao upgrades, the Hakuchou drag is still much slower than the Reever
it's only by a few mph, iirc
Weaponized Ignus is still faster around a track
No itās not lmao
If like 6mph is few in your book then ye
yeah thatd be in my book
Yes it is look at test videos comparing the two
Testing their racing capacities on Downtown Underground.
Disclaimed obviously these laps can be a lot cleaner but even this already shows the big difference between the cars, the coil cyclone has insane acceleration but lacks top speed compared to the ignus, also grip wise its a lot worse
If you want to submit a clip for a shoutout go to the d...
Weaponized Ignus is faster around a track, or at the very least, this one
the s95 looks like it gets around the standard tuner class times without hsw upgrades
so hopefully they'll get around to putting those upgrades on tuner cars soon
Hmm brakeboosting with the ignus, very fair ātestā
I don't think I've seen a Broughy video comparing the two tho
broughy's still working on it
However, the turismo classic HSW got a lap time of 1:00.3 on broughyās track
Thatās.. faster than the regular turismo
and that was just from him doing a couple of laps on stream, right?
Best sports classic car? That also looks nice asf too
No, from my friend 
ooh
No boosting though
Turismo Classic was already best before, now it's just unfair how good it is
broughy got similar laptimes so i'd say that's about accurate
the turismo classic would be considered a top 20 supercar now
Itās faster than the tempesta
i assume they will, if they didnt just forget about tuners lol
of all the cars in GTA that deserve HSW, I'd say that the Comet S2 does the most
they did say next-gen would have tuner cars receive performance upgrades
I remember my friend talking about E&E's concept during early tuners
he mentioned higher top speed tuning and larger servers and that
so not entirely the same, but still pretty close
e&e still has like 30-players lobbies, right
Thereās some 30 player lobbies, but it feels more popular on the Xbox one. Probably with how fast series x gets sold out and no one else can really get em
Full of asshats selling the consoles for twice the amount it costed
Vectre had been made
It's from suspension right?
Ye
Alright lemme look at the other options for suspension
Btw the autarch and visione are good right?
The retinue mk2 suspension upgrades is also like that, the wheels stick out so I go with stock suspension. The problem is that with stock suspension, the car easily rolls over
True, i just hate the car wheels looking like they bout to pop out at any second
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Deviant
someone post a car or something
I would, but i have yet to figure out how to use r* editor, people say its easy, but i am too lazy rn
I love the Barracuda grille on that thing
Other than that underskirt thing it looks amazing
beautiful
I am rock hard
Love the arbiter, looks friggin awesome and itās so fun to drive
70s gto is my favorite
Haha, I drove a ā69 once. Such a nice car
There is one in the neighboring town
Seen it thrice
Hiiii, anyone want to do a car meet?
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Cayo Perico: #ps4ļ½cayo-perico-lfg
Doomsday: #archive-psļ½doomsday-lfg
Vehicles: #ps4ļ½vehicles-lfg
Everything else: #ps4ļ½other-lfg
Requested by: @ashen mulch
American muscle cars are very uncommon here
I used to work at a used truck/vintage muscle car dealership. They would completely restore anything that came in, but would also buy all originals aswell
Is this not the right one? I m sorry
Cool as fuck
Yo, Iāve seen so many zentornos around on next gen. Shits crazy
Havenāt seen a zentorno in years until E&E
What's new with the zentornos
Based
Have they got a hao upgrade or sum
Donāt think anything. Itās all people starting fresh
Oh right
No
Nah I think itās just the price of it, for a new player itās a decent car
Maybe a nostalgia thing too for people restarting aswell
Crashing someone over an argument in a videogame...
Lmfao
ratio
Sometimes I don't realize what channel I'm in, just waiting for the day I post stuff in the wrong channel
someone post a car
I have a 5 min video that takes as much space as this pic 
Must be in 360p
Speed
Probably still faster than the new granger
Can't every vehicle launch?





