gta-vehicles

[naive pond]

Not alot

[heavy garden]

Eh micheal?

Franklin?

[naive pond]

Ones been in los santos all his life and the other for yearsss

[heavy garden]

I’d imagine Trevor would loose the club after the series A heist

[bright condor]

a customer brought a gp1 in autoshop

[heavy garden]

Since a notable drug distributor in charge of a good honest business in Los santos is bad for business

[naive pond]

Idk he killed the last owner might still own it

Just puts someone else in charge or smth

[heavy garden]

I mean.. well mr Ron mentions Trevor became a Los santos yogi

Ron mentions Trevor in a bad way

[narrow viper]

Any car meets?

[heavy garden]

I’d love to get a car meet set up

[dark ridge]

car meets used to be soo cool, most players be exploding everybody nowadays lol

[heavy garden]

We have a car meet spot now

[dark ridge]

i know, but still... nothing like the old days rolling and drifting in parking lots and the street

[lime cloud]

The thing is everyone has different tastes in cars people wanna be highly realistic and others love modded cars and kids wanna show off their bright neon creations once someone gets kicked out it's boom boom

If I hosted one I'd welcome All creations

[heavy garden]

Well there is a limit to neon cars.

My favorite color charger in green is bright

Irl color is go go green

[lunar yoke]

meanwhile i mostly have bikes and get kicked out bc someone rear ended me off my bike :')

[lime cloud]

Wow

[lunar yoke]

apparently i was "trolling my brining a bike" and "broke his windshield on purpose"

like mf i was stopped waiting for the guy infront to park and he came blazing in at mach jesus

criminal

[swift sierra]

Rate my Banshee

[lunar yoke]

8/10 the rims seem odd idk why

[swift sierra]

I tried to use the closest one to the Stocks

In Sports rims

Rate this before i customize it rn

[lime cloud]

I got a neon BMX so I feel your pain.

[lunar yoke]

0/10 the Audi Quattro with the rally kit but without a rally livery just looks ass

[swift sierra]

I made it stock temporarily

Wait a pair of minutes

Omnis Power

[lunar yoke]

i see people put solid colour paints on cars with rally kits and builds on forza all the time and i die a little inside every time i see it it just looks rice

[swift sierra]

I thought this shit was more customizable

[lunar yoke]

nah its not great ay

i just try make it look like the real one and call it a day

[swift sierra]

I would like to take off the fenders tbh

[lunar yoke]

a stock quattro would be cool

[stuck hamlet]

no livery

[lunar yoke]

like it would be so cool to have this in the tuner class

[void trench]

Man for a Z8 or a 507 in the game

That's because it could go to the Carbonizzare

[narrow viper]

which sunstrip turns the Virtue into a tank

[swift sierra]

i don't like none of both

[swift sierra]

none, it has literal armor in the agency

choose one

[narrow viper]

ah ok

[mint pond]

wsp im new

[lunar yoke]

tribal black

[narrow viper]

God that is so smexy dude😩

[swift sierra]

Thanks you

[drowsy plinth]

I have a modded ramp buggy on my moc, how do I get it to be my main?

[heavy garden]

Imagine rockstar adds the Gm Holden to gta 5

Gonna re live the Aussie trip sitting in the back of one lol

It would be nice if you can do the Ute and the wagon

[lone bramble]

The gm holden?

Its just holden

Keep that shitty gm crap outta here🥱

[heavy garden]

It’s gonna be a meme car

[lone bramble]

Now you're saying its a meme car?

Holdens are works of art

[heavy garden]

My favorite Aussie car

[lone bramble]

Its not a car

Its a car maker

There are hundreds of holdens

[heavy garden]

I had a Ute imported from Australia

[lone bramble]

There are several holden utes

[heavy garden]

I forgot the name of the model

I had a Holden before. Lovely cars

[lone bramble]

Year

[heavy garden]

Old 90s Ute

[lone bramble]

For someone that owned it you don't know much about it at all

Specific year?

[heavy garden]

Was a long time ago

[lone bramble]

Weakest excuse ever istg

[heavy garden]

Do you have a next dlc for online car prediction/ wishlist?

[swift sierra]

Prediction not

But cars that I want, yes

[heavy garden]

Do you have a cruise car yet friend?

[crisp kestrel]

ny1 wanna join me nd the boys for a meet/drift sesh

[marsh harbor]

!lfg @crisp kestrel vehicle

[simple gorge]

@crisp kestrel, please use the appropriate LFG (Looking For Group) channel:
Vehicles: #pc-l｜vehicles-lfg

Requested by: @marsh harbor

[narrow viper]

It’s unoriginal but I like this thing

[lone bramble]

The rims are prwtty unique idk

[narrow viper]

Wish I could make them chrome

[lone bramble]

Icl i dont like the colour but thats about it

[gritty python]

[narrow viper]

I might switch them to grey

[lone bramble]

I meant the primary

[narrow viper]

Oh

I thought the green was pretty unique

[lone bramble]

Like it works, but just personal taste pukey green aint my thing

[narrow viper]

Understandable

[gritty python]

Also tires are glitching through the bumper

[narrow viper]

I might try and edit them out lol

[lone bramble]

While yr at it

[narrow viper]

On that the quality will deplete if I try to edit it lmao

[lone bramble]

[narrow viper]

Ima get procreate tmrw

Hope it’ll be better then ibis paintx

[gritty python]

Fixed

[narrow viper]

W bro

[gritty python]

Also why is the paint darker around the bumper

And side skirts

[narrow viper]

Thats a question to the gta devs

[lone bramble]

Isnt that the secondary part

?

[gritty python]

[narrow viper]

Nah the secondary is the trim

[lone bramble]

Hm weird coulda sworn secondary coloured the lower half

Diff car

[narrow viper]

Same lol

[gritty python]

It is only noticeable in the last pic

[simple gorge]

@twin lance, please use the appropriate LFG (Looking For Group) channel:

Cayo Perico: #pc-l｜cayo-perico-lfg
Casino Heist: #pc-l｜casino-lfg
Old Heist: #pc-l｜old-heist-lfg
Vehicles: #pc-l｜vehicles-lfg
Everything else: #pc-l｜other-lfg

Requested by: @marsh harbor

[narrow viper]

is the opressor mk1 good?

[weary parrot]

yes once you master it you can beat oppressor mk2s with it

[marsh harbor]

Also very fun to use.

[lone bramble]

Opp mk1 > mk2 every time

[swift sierra]

Sadly not

I had one, but he quit from GTA Online forever today

[rustic egret]

Fact that autoshop does have only 10 car garage makes me sad. I want to keep all best in slot " racing " cars in 1 place to look fancy, yet there are 13 car categories :C

[narrow viper]

where is the xbox representation here?

[narrow viper]

is the la coureuse worth buying

[marsh harbor]

I'd say it is, yeah.

its good.

[compact cairn]

Close the app and re-launch

Also use #gta-tech-support next time

[copper totem]

Is albany brigham released?

[low notch]

third attempt tryna make an rs classic

[strange apex]

prize ride build :

all stock except full motor

you think r* did well with this variant?

[strange apex]

almost there

[strange apex]

are those rims in online?

[pure salmon]

It's a decent attempt.

[strange apex]

bad angle? impossible

[narrow viper]

what is bro cooking

[strange apex]

im just going through the oldies

[narrow viper]

that is wild

[strange apex]

i wish i had better quality from the social club

[narrow viper]

cool

[strange apex]

cruise meets jan 2018

circa 2018

*location: supply street

year: 2022*

i know the weed i was smoking in 2018 was FIRE cause these location and static shots giving me real deal cills

circa 2017: it took me a hour or sumthing to get the right amount of tire smoke and the flames in the same shot

ok im done

[pure salmon]

Interesting choice of rims. (Re🅱️ost)

[narrow viper]

Why wouldn’t they be

[pure salmon]

[round tusk]

Does the police in gta 5 recognize the car you are driving?
I was driving a shafter V12 in story mode and I heard the police woman say “a Benefactor Performance Vehicle” then she called it shafter. I just found it interesting

Because I don’t think they talk in gta online

[narrow viper]

While I usually don’t go for liveries due to personal taste I will say you did good, 7/10 🤌

[narrow viper]

yeah and if you swap vehicle or respray it, they cant find you as easy

it's literally shown in the prologue

"keep cool, they aint made this car yet"

[round tusk]

I just find it interesting they have police dispatcher audio for some gta online cars like the congocenti

[narrow viper]

oh for sure

[round tusk]

There’s one for the bravdo gaunlet classic too

[narrow viper]

i know theres one for the regular gauntlet

that's because of the final heist in story mode though

[sterile quarry]

garage

gonna be switching the progen with some other modern hyper/supercar

[narrow viper]

A very attractive build.

[narrow viper]

It even looks good with a shot out and cracked rear windscreen. 10/10

[lunar yoke]

quite the pair

[safe carbon]

esskey is a pretty cool vehicle fr

[lunar yoke]

yee altho i need to know who at rockstar has such a boner for ducatis like half the bike are based on some sort of ducati xd

i m not complaining tho they are all stunning

[neat egret]

What is the best armoured vehicle that shoots regular bullets/rockets without needing 2 people? Just solo

[narrow viper]

toreador but that things barely armored

nightshark and most imani tech vehicles have guns but no missiles, good armor tho

[sterile quarry]

i needa build that car

looks like a ruf rk or something

[narrow viper]

I believe the Nightshark has machine guns but I know it tows an AA trailer too.

[neat egret]

Ok

How do you upgrade armoured vehicles? My Kuruma armoured is from my auto shop but I’m assuming the stronger and bigger vehicles aren’t?

[strange apex]

sometimes folks use the five m rims

[strange apex]

best part about this is its straight from r* i never changed the design of the car from when i won it

i think the devs design the prize ride themselves so i keep it stock-ish

im on steam deck i gotta learn how to do it

[sterile quarry]

this you?

[sleek fog]

i found a easter egg on the amg gt

[fallen creek]

Whats a nice color on a lambo

[sleek fog]

uh

[safe carbon]

verde ithaca

[fallen creek]

Or tempesta i think its called in game

[sleek fog]

purple?

[fallen creek]

Yeah that looks kinda clean ngl

Thanks man

[sleek fog]

np

[sleek fog]

the logo in the bonnet lights up with the headlights

[safe carbon]

that's not an easter egg

it's called a detail

[fallen creek]

Is there any nice fast cheap cars?

I have like 400k rn but can get like 1.5 if I sell nightclub shit so within that budget

[safe carbon]

elegy rh8

[fallen creek]

How much is it?

[safe carbon]

free

[fallen creek]

Damn

Which store

Or website

[safe carbon]

legendary or benny's

[pseudo grove]

ig some free cars goes free for gta premium haver?

[narrow viper]

I’m on ps4 lol but that’s understandable

They’re track rims

[neat egret]

Wait isn’t the MOB the Mobile Operations Center? Then why isn’t called the MOC? I’m confused

Idk that’s what people were calling the MOC

Ok lol

Can I buy weapons from the MOC that are level restricted?

What does that mean?

[lunar yoke]

ya

[neat egret]

I’m confused so it like ammu nation on the go? Or it’s more advanced? Or it’s neither and it’s something else?

So my intent is to get all the weapons that are level restricted, getting the work bench means I can do that?

Ok

And it’s only possible through a armoured vehicle right?

For weapon upgrades

[safe carbon]

the freakshop has a weapon workbench for free

[neat egret]

Oh they’re called service vehicles my bad

Lmao

Should I go to a casino or buy a service vehicle?

Ok lol

What is the best service vehicle? I was recommended the MOC the most

Ok

2 players as in 2 online characters that I own? Or just 2 people in a lobby?

Lobby?

[narrow viper]

car reccomendation now

[safe carbon]

asea

[narrow viper]

what wevsite

[safe carbon]

ssasa if it's still there

[neat egret]

Can you customize a Nightshark in the Avenger?

[safe carbon]

yes

[neat egret]

Ok thanks

[safe carbon]

you can also just customize it in ls customs

[neat egret]

Really?

[safe carbon]

yes really

[neat egret]

I heard you couldn’t but ok

[safe carbon]

you heard wrong

[neat egret]

Unless you get more customizable options in a service vehicle workshop?

[safe carbon]

the only extra thing you get is liveries

and the nightshark doesn't have anything but the generic ones

[neat egret]

Is the MOC beneficial for a bunker?

[safe carbon]

hardly

[neat egret]

Ok

I guess I’ll think about getting the Avenger

[fallen creek]

What does 100% armor do on cars

[safe carbon]

gives them armor...

[neat egret]

Lol

[neat egret]

Tanks more bullets and I guess rockets?

And crashing into things

[safe carbon]

on normal cars the only thing you'll really notice is the reduction in crash damage

with armored vehicles like the nightshark the armor upgrade is crucial

[neat egret]

Yeah pretty much

[fallen creek]

Oh okay because I bought it and it felt like it did nothing

[safe carbon]

0% armor takes 9 rockets, 100% armor takes 27

[fallen creek]

Oh yeah I see the crash difference

[neat egret]

9 is still pretty good generally tbh, at least for me

[chrome isle]

14 at 0%

[safe carbon]

whar

ok

i could've sworn it was 9 but ok

i don't care enough to check

[chrome isle]

just multiply the 100% value with 0,5 in most cases

[fallen creek]

Is there any must have cars or fun cars to buy

I already have kuruma which I got recommended by a ton of people

[swift sierra]

What do you mean exactly?

[safe carbon]

why aren't there more console peasants

[swift sierra]

why aren't there more console farmers?

Why farmers?

[safe carbon]

because a farmer could afford a pc

[swift sierra]

I don't understand

So, you would farm in a Console to buy a PC?

[safe carbon]

ok don't understand

[swift sierra]

Try to explain it simpler

[safe carbon]

a peasant is someone of low social status

[swift sierra]

Damn, that Purple one looks amazing

[swift sierra]

A poor man?

[safe carbon]

that too

[swift sierra]

Too?

Those are the same

At least here

[safe carbon]

no, no they are not

[swift sierra]

They recognize the car you were using when you did the Crime, if you repaint the car, or change it to another vehicle (Bikes count), your Icon in the Map will become Dark Gray instead of White, that means you're not recognizable for the Police unless you last more than 3 seconds in the Police Radar, or you pass very close to their vehicles

[swift sierra]

No Rockets, but Armored and Mounted Miniguns:

Bravado Buffalo STX

[swift sierra]

Some are some aren't, for example, most Weaponized Vehicles are only customizable in a Special Weaponized Workshop, but others like the Imani Tech Cars are customizable on the Agency Workshop, also LSC, but Imani Tech is only available in the Agency

A solution for this is the Arena Workshop, that allows:

Arena Vehicles (Duh)
Normal Vehicles
Benny's Vehicles
Weaponized Vehicles

[swift sierra]

More Advanced, MKII Weapons are very Special Variants for their Stock Editions

Also, MKII Weapons can have MKII Ammo, which deals more damage to Enemies With or Without Armor, Bullets that pierce through Bulletproof Windows, turn the Enemy on Fire, or even make them Explote with literally Explosive Rounds

[neat egret]

Ok thanks

Oh wow flaming and explosive rounds?

I might get the weapon workshop then

[safe carbon]

those aren't nearly as impressive as they sound

explosive ammo is pretty good on the shotgun but you only get 40 ammo

[neat egret]

Im guessing it’s not the same as the ones you could do in story mode cheats?

[safe carbon]

for the shotgun it is the same

[neat egret]

Ok

[safe carbon]

for the sniper they're weaker

[neat egret]

I see

[swift sierra]

An Explosive Sniper Rifle destroys any Jet at 2 Shoots

[safe carbon]

wrong

[swift sierra]

Proof it

[safe carbon]

b11, pyro, starling

i'm not going to prove it, you'll just believe me

[swift sierra]

Okay, you are right

I thought the Pyro wasn't a Jet, just a Plane

[swift sierra]

I repeat, i thought

[neat egret]

Incendiary and explosive rounds are making me want it

[chrome isle]

incendiary isn't very useful, maybe some uses for pve

[neat egret]

My reason is just for fun mainly

[drifting viper]

Yo can someone dm me

I had a lil question

[fossil pilot]

i kinda like this idk

[rustic pawn]

what's the name of the car?

[safe carbon]

beater dukes

[rustic pawn]

thanks! LOVE the shitty car look :3

[swift sierra]

Not bad

[swift sierra]

Going

[swift sierra]

What are those numbers Font?

[mortal birch]

wait

[wet kettle]

No way gta looks like that

[narrow viper]

no gas station looks like this in real life

[swift sierra]

1\ Do you barely realize?

2\ That is not the real Reason, but it works just the same for me

[swift sierra]

Oh nice

But i asked the Font, not the File

[mortal birch]

the font is in the file

its a mod how else would you get it

[swift sierra]

I mean the Font Name

[mortal birch]

thats the name

[swift sierra]

Thanks

[pure salmon]

Still thinking about getting the Raiju. I'm just $2M away from it.

[narrow viper]

smooth graphics

[mortal birch]

mods

[narrow viper]

still smooth tho

[mortal birch]

thanks

[mortal birch]

mods

[narrow viper]

Post pics if you choose to buy it!

[lone bramble]

Well worth it

[narrow viper]

A lovely bird

[marsh harbor]

Nice shot

[lone bramble]

Thanks lads🫡

[narrow viper]

pretty

[narrow viper]

very welcome

[pure salmon]

Change of plans, Imma save up and wait till next Thursday.

Cause knowing R*, they miiiiiight discount the Raiju.

[lone bramble]

A very real possibility, smart thinking

[swift sierra]

Don't do it, if you can buy it now, do it, don't wait for the discount, because it is more likely to not be on discount than being it

[rancid rain]

anyone doing car shows

[swift sierra]

!lfg @rancid rain Vehicles

[simple gorge]

@rancid rain, please use the appropriate LFG (Looking For Group) channel:
Vehicles: #ps5｜vehicles-lfg

Requested by: @swift sierra

[dawn nymph]

anyone do car trains or meets

[narrow viper]

How did it get stuck

[swift sierra]

!lfg @dawn nymph Vehicles

[simple gorge]

@dawn nymph, please use the appropriate LFG (Looking For Group) channel:
Vehicles: #ps4｜vehicles-lfg

Requested by: @swift sierra

[mortal birch]

i am in your walls

[naive pond]

Now im in ur walls too

Knocking on the wall

[mortal birch]

dont be home today at 4:14 lil bro

whatever just dont be home at 4:14 youre gonna regret it, IM IN YOUR WALLS

i hope he had a bad trip because of this

shit

im back in your walls

i brought a wasp nest with me

[lone bramble]

The attention seeking goes crazy

Im sure you can figure that out💀

[swift sierra]

!rule 1

[simple gorge]

GTA Online Discord - Rule 1

Refrain from using languages other than English.

Requested by

@swift sierra

[gaunt rune]

Man said one word in Spanish and gets warned…💀

[dim lake]

Fr fr

Look ima say smth french

Idk what to say lol

[gaunt rune]

Wi wi baguette

[dim lake]

Oui oui baguette

[gaunt rune]

gets banned

[dim lake]

Problem is im canadian french so its not actually french its more like frenglish

[dim lake]

(」ﾟﾛﾟ)｣ᴺᴼᴼᴼᴼ~

[dim lake]

Please dont

Is the car from the current casino a good car i won it for some reason

Like that mercedes looking car

[gaunt rune]

It’s the Schlagen gt right?

[dim lake]

Yeah

[gaunt rune]

Yeah it’s after the Mercedes GT, I like it, it’s not the best but again decent enough car

[dim lake]

Ok

[charred pawn]

I'm down for a Meer but it's my first how this works. I'm on now

[swift sierra]

!lfg @charred pawn Vehicles

[simple gorge]

@charred pawn, please use the appropriate LFG (Looking For Group) channel:
Vehicles: #xb1｜vehicles-lfg

Requested by: @swift sierra

[charred pawn]

Oh ok seems like alot of work.. I'm good

[swift sierra]

[agile hawk]

I want to get some silly small vehicles. What would you guys recommend?

[lone bramble]

Arena war issi is the obvious choice

But these are also good options

[swift sierra]

Bürgerfahrzeug Club

[agile hawk]

Is the Briosso R/A any good for customization?

[swift sierra]

Not really

Has customization, but nothing really remarkable

[agile hawk]

Is it fun?

[swift sierra]

Kinda

But is better in new gen

[lone bramble]

Do the ones i sent

Much better customization

Issi classic and brioso 300

[agile hawk]

Got the R/A anyway. I was trying to give it the "I can't believe it's almost 2010" look.

[lone bramble]

Damn its horrendous💀

[eternal sparrow]

Who have the benefactor streiter ??

[eternal sparrow]

Who have the benefactor streiter ??

[narrow viper]

!lfg

[simple gorge]

@eternal sparrow, please use the appropriate LFG (Looking For Group) channel:

Cayo Perico: #ps5｜cayo-perico-lfg
Casino Heist: #ps5｜casino-lfg
Old Heist: #ps5｜old-heist-lfg
Vehicles: #ps5｜vehicles-lfg
Everything else: #ps5｜other-lfg

Requested by: @narrow viper

[lunar yoke]

!lfg @eternal sparrow vehicles

[cerulean heart]

I brought it for fun but no

[lone bramble]

I do

[hexed imp]

who has the tesla car?? im tryna get it but it aint in the game

[lunar yoke]

!lfg

[simple gorge]

@hexed imp, please use the appropriate LFG (Looking For Group) channel:

Cayo Perico: #ps5｜cayo-perico-lfg
Casino Heist: #ps5｜casino-lfg
Old Heist: #ps5｜old-heist-lfg
Vehicles: #ps5｜vehicles-lfg
Everything else: #ps5｜other-lfg

Requested by: @lunar yoke

[narrow viper]

Made my hatchback more like smth you’d see at an irl meet

[coral solstice]

how do u take screenshots without hud

[crude ingot]

Anyone got a ninja turtle set PS5

[coral solstice]

ohh

cool ill try that

[noble harbor]

Should I buy the Vigilante or Toredor?

[coral solstice]

vigilante

ur gonna be on land more than ur gonna be under the sea

so

[raw cosmos]

Toreador, can take 6 missiles before exploding, it may be 80% glass but with that boost they wont be able to shoot you fast enough, and the submarine mode is pretty useful for certain missions

[heavy garden]

Hello people!

[noble harbor]

Which one has a stronger boost?

[trim hedge]

vigilante

its fat as hell but its pretty fast

[lone bramble]

Toreador

It will annihilate a vigilante 9 times out of 10

[round tusk]

My first time using rockstar editor lol

Discord really butchered the quality

[lone bramble]

Not bad

[round tusk]

Thanks

[outer gust]

Yoooooo anyone wanna do a garage tour just for fun gta been boring lately?? Just dm me

[heavy garden]

Rockstar editor kinda hard to get used to

I need to learn camera shit

I’m no photographer

Any one know good colors that have good rain reflections ?

[round tusk]

I love that first u turn drift

[heavy garden]

I can do stand alone car shoots and character photos

[raw cosmos]

Id say vigilante but toreador has more pros

[heavy garden]

I wish I had a proper video editing pc to do professional work

Hmm lol

[quaint umbra]

What suspension do i use for Vectre and Sultan RS Classic? On lowest they're 5° from being Deluxo Mk0.5

[safe carbon]

the one you like the most

[heavy garden]

I never use suspension on my garage/ display trucks

I’d love if they had a suspension system like raising and lowering.

[lone bramble]

Yosemite does

[heavy garden]

Haven’t bought it yet.

[lone bramble]

Wrll get to it🗿

[heavy garden]

Ok mr

[void trench]

this is the answer

[lunar yoke]

I just crop it

[lone bramble]

Not a good way to go about it

[strong imp]

what kind of color combination and/or livery would you guys recommend me to make for the calico gtf?

[coral solstice]

where tf u got this car 😩

[lone bramble]

Modded it🥱

[mystic girder]

Looking for people to grind with in very experienced I played gta for 7 yrs now Looking to do heist missions for fun be chill ps4 edition Gta 5

[narrow viper]

!lfg

[simple gorge]

@mystic girder, please use the appropriate LFG (Looking For Group) channel:

Cayo Perico: #ps4｜cayo-perico-lfg
Casino Heist: #ps4｜casino-lfg
Old Heist: #ps4｜old-heist-lfg
Vehicles: #ps4｜vehicles-lfg
Everything else: #ps4｜other-lfg

Requested by: @narrow viper

[lunar yoke]

bimmer

[bitter island]

!lfg

[safe carbon]

mk2, obviously

yes, but that isn't efficient

none of those vehicles have any armor whatsoever

[young crescent]

Looking for sumo remix and race playlist

[swift sierra]

@hot raptor, For what it's worth, the Vigilante can be used on Original Heists

[swift sierra]

Gimme 1 hour, maybe i have something for you

[strong imp]

ive made this

[safe carbon]

unmake it

[swift sierra]

Not bad, but can be way better

[strong imp]

agreed

[pure salmon]

There's some potential. I used to have a Calico with this exact livery.

But now, it's a purple street / tuner build, straight outta Underground & Urious.

[safe carbon]

i really do not like these

yeah it's nostalgic and whatever but man it just looks so tacky and awful

[narrow viper]

the lampadati viseris isnt on ps4 gta version right?

[safe carbon]

yes it is

[narrow viper]

like on the websites

[narrow viper]

it is?

[narrow viper]

It’s definitely something

[safe carbon]

it is not for sale currently, no

[narrow viper]

trust me i died tryna find it

[narrow viper]

got it off from Simeon lmaoo

[safe carbon]

oh it is in simeons

too bad it was ruined with advanced handling flags

[merry carbon]

can someone dm me a list of all iconic fast & furious cars that are in the game? like the silver skyline with the blue stripes or the orange toyota supra with the green livery on its side?

im making a garage full of them

[narrow viper]

All I know is that ure basic for this💀

[strong imp]

dominator gtt

[narrow viper]

🗣️‼️🔥

[strong imp]

and thats it, i have no idea about the fast and furious cars that are in gta 5

[narrow viper]

This u?

never used the carbon cheetah rims but it js bangs w the viseris

dont mind the wild weevil i got beside it

[merry carbon]

Nah i just wanna make a garage full of f&f cars that have their own custom stuff in gta like the skyline and supra

[narrow viper]

i’ll tell u

[merry carbon]

thx

[narrow viper]

Mb I jus really hate f&f💀

[swift sierra]

Don't

Make your own taste

[narrow viper]

Frr

Ppl really waste there talent and money trying to copy goofy looking cars

[swift sierra]

@strong imp, do you have a Crew?

If so, i can recommend you a Crew Color, otherwise, LSC Colors

[swift sierra]

Agree

[strong imp]

not in a crew

[swift sierra]

Okay

[lunar yoke]

(Off topic but i see that alot in forza its sad)

[narrow viper]

You can make such great builds in forza too

[lunar yoke]

yeah if i have to see another orange suprea imma flip

[merry carbon]

lol

[merry carbon]

I have a lot of good cars that are my own taste i just wanna have a few f&f ones

[narrow viper]

Don’t think I posted this yet

[merry carbon]

sexy

[narrow viper]

What's the best car to buy, I mean fastest and not gonna explode with 1 rocket shot

[safe carbon]

la coureuse

[swift sierra]

Grotti Itali GTO Stinger TT

@strong imp

Metallic Cabernet Red Primary Color
Metallic Stone Silver Secondary Color
Hot Pink or Pfister Pink/Vermillion Pink Pearlescent
Black Rims Color

Tribal Purple Halftone Livery

for the Calico GTF

try it and tell me how it's looking

[hidden mirage]

is there a way where i can get the rune cheburek rn

oops wrong chanel lol

[safe carbon]

go back to 1.66 and buy it

[narrow viper]

@swift sierra check dms

[fair ether]

Does anyone have a peyto Gasser That they’re OK with selling

[swift sierra]

Going

[swift sierra]

You can't buy it, New Gen Only

[fair ether]

I know I was just tired of waiting it to spawn in my auto shop

[narrow viper]

Yo how do I find ppl hosting car shows

[lunar yoke]

!lfg

[simple gorge]

@narrow viper, please use the appropriate LFG (Looking For Group) channel:

Cayo Perico: #pc-l｜cayo-perico-lfg
Casino Heist: #pc-l｜casino-lfg
Old Heist: #pc-l｜old-heist-lfg
Vehicles: #pc-l｜vehicles-lfg
Everything else: #pc-l｜other-lfg

Requested by: @lunar yoke

[lunar yoke]

opinion on my hondas

[narrow viper]

Realistic👍

[lunar yoke]

im on the fence about the blue on the wheels on the NM4

[whole lava]

can i still get ocelot virtue for free?

[heavy garden]

You can by doing the last dose missions

[whole lava]

oh alr thanks

[heavy garden]

All the missions

[swift sierra]

Looks amazing ngl

[lunar yoke]

thank you!

[swift sierra]

Tell me the Vindicator Colors

[safe carbon]

grey

[swift sierra]

Specific ones

[lunar yoke]

is one of the metals i think and matte black (i cant check rn)

[frigid jolt]

Best ocelot virtue colour combos?

[lunar yoke]

brushed steel and matte black for the body and Royal blue on double five wheels

[swift sierra]

Gasoline Green

[lunar yoke]

gray or green

[pure salmon]

Green.

[swift sierra]

None, blue

[lunar yoke]

i wasnt vibing with the blue looked too "bmw"

[swift sierra]

Blue and Silver/Aluminum

Like the BMW Lightning Bike

[lunar yoke]

plus i dont realy have any green bikes so i migo green but with a diff livery

[lone bramble]

Green

Make it close to the real version

Theres a livery thats almost identical i believe

[lunar yoke]

@lone bramble left or right

or this

[lone bramble]

The right is a very basic choice, looks good but as i said basic, i kinda like the logos on the first one icl

Something different

[lunar yoke]

thats what i was thinking tho the third one looks kinda like this one

[lone bramble]

Id prefer the 1st over the 3rd

I think im using the 3rd one atm

[lunar yoke]

oki doki

[brave breach]

Anybody got the revolter in game

[lone bramble]

Do

[brave breach]

You do?

[lone bramble]

Yes

[brave breach]

Do you think you can help me get it

[lone bramble]

How am i meant to do that?

[brave breach]

With a glitch

[lone bramble]

Okay good

Nah im ps5

[brave breach]

Ah

Its ight ty for responding

[lone bramble]

Check the ps4 vehicles lfg

You'll have more luck

[brave breach]

Ty

[lone bramble]

Absolutely baked the quality

[lunar yoke]

XD its a cropped sc so its gonna look funky

[heavy garden]

I loved the akuma in gta online

First “sports” cruise bike I owned

[dry robin]

Hi, how do you sit passenger in the toreador

[rapid creek]

what car is that

i forgot

[heavy garden]

Growler

[rapid creek]

growler?

what color is your porsche

[lunar yoke]

ive decided that the carbon rs looks way more than the EBR 1190RS than the Ducati 1199 (idk were the wiki got that idea from) so theres gonna ba a gap in a Ducati garage 🥲

[heavy garden]

A Porsche pink

[carmine swan]

anyone got clean cars with anodised coloured wheel?

[swift sierra]

@lone bramble

[carmine swan]

ps5?

[swift sierra]

He is

Also…

!lfg @carmine swan vehicles

[simple gorge]

@carmine swan, please use the appropriate LFG (Looking For Group) channel:
Vehicles: #ps5｜vehicles-lfg

Requested by: @swift sierra

[carmine swan]

mb sorry

[swift sierra]

Don't worry

Unless you are looking just for inspiration and not for trading, this is not the channel for it

[carmine swan]

yeah i didnt see mb

[pastel dirge]

Can someone help me get f1 wheels on my car

[swift sierra]

!lfg @pastel dirge Vehicles

[simple gorge]

@pastel dirge, please use the appropriate LFG (Looking For Group) channel:
Vehicles: #ps4｜vehicles-lfg

Requested by: @swift sierra

[narrow viper]

I rlly evolved

[lunar yoke]

@swift sierra you puttin in work!

[swift sierra]

Wdym?

[raw cosmos]

How

[swift sierra]

PC

[raw cosmos]

Oh

[errant dawn]

Which air vehicle is the best? In terms of speed mainly

[narrow viper]

The raiju thing or the super fast helicopter

Sparrow or sum like that

[errant dawn]

Ok, I do have the sparrow it's just I wanted something more defensive and fast. Because the sparrow is fragile from my experience using it

[flat comet]

Well then the raiju

Raiju is the fastest thing in the game without speed glitching. But its also very practical for using it as a workhorse vehicle

Compared to many other aircraft. A mk2 or sparrow will be a lil better in some cases

[errant dawn]

Well, time to grind to get the Raiju lol

[flat comet]

[errant dawn]

Thanks

[agile hawk]

What motorcycles do you guys recommend? When it comes to high-end, I already have the Powersurge and Reever.

[flat comet]

Those kinda are among the best already. Hakuchou drag is good even without hsw still too

Oppressor mk1 is good if u count that

[agile hawk]

Weaponized vehicles don't count imo

[tired thicket]

clean

[tired thicket]

what am I looking at. lol

[warm spoke]

Mors mutual won’t get a dime out of me

[lone bramble]

@lunar yoke 's, but thanks

[latent stratus]

Best JDM car in ur guy’s opinion? (In gta)

[narrow lake]

i like the remus, im not saying it’s the best but it’s my personal favorite

[latent stratus]

Ooo yeah that clean

[swift sierra]

Future Shock Western Deathbike

As a Stock Bike

[swift sierra]

Yeah, as a Stock Bike

[swift sierra]

YouTube Kids when they own a Hangar

[warm spoke]

Rainbow starlings with the peace and love starling in the back xd

[latent stratus]

Did u buy them?

[warm spoke]

Yeah

mors mutuals to expensive

[latent stratus]

Damn bro, u got money money bro

[warm spoke]

Hunted down an oppressor mk2 he left the game when he died

[weary parrot]

can you tell me what plane is that

[warm spoke]

Starling jet

3.6m without trade price

[urban loom]

How do you make your pictures like this?

[narrow viper]

Get good lighting, get a good angle and then take the photos with your gta phone

[urban loom]

Thank you!

[neat egret]

Is the Vigilante the best armoured vehicle?

[weary parrot]

No it can only take 1 missile

[neat egret]

Sorry I meant overall

[flat comet]

Well it definitely wouldnt be the best overall because of the armor. The best armored vehicle overall is probably the toreador

But if ur wanting more defensive and tankier vehicles, things like the nightshark or la coureuse are good

[agile hawk]

What is the fastest motorcycle without doing a wheelie?

[safe carbon]

oppressor

[flat comet]

Pretty sure the deathbike would take that crown for top speed, but oppressor is better overall

[neat egret]

Yeah I found out lol

I might get the Nightshark

[flat comet]

Without a wheelie💀

[novel valley]

w

[narrow viper]

Finally bought the raiju and now I understand

All my other jets will no longer be used

[lament briar]

its fun to fly the raiju, even though i dont use planes too much, the mk2 is more versatile for getting around for missions

[flat comet]

The raiju is even better than the mk2 in some cases for missions

[granite wasp]

not for cayo hehehehe

[flat comet]

[loud oasis]

Warning: NO STEP
You: steps

[tired thicket]

that does looks clean

[lament briar]

i stopped trying to make the deviant look stock, rockstar wanted a retromod, I'll give them the retromod

[void trench]

dunno why Rockstar can't just give us a regular ol' AMC Javelin, and then if we wanted to have ourselves a Ringsbrother's restomod, let us take it to Benny's

ok i'll have to look for a HEX for this colour

[prime belfry]

can you shoot weapons out of insurgent

• stickies ?

[chrome isle]

yes

[late cosmos]

Anodized purple pearl would do the trick here, if you've got it

[agile hawk]

I would be inclined to use hangar vehicles like the Raiju and Akula if they didn't spawn like eight miles away when I call them in and basically force me to steal a civilian car to get to them.

[void trench]

i dont even think its in the files for PC

[leaden anvil]

No it is not

[late cosmos]

Shoot your right mb, chameleon paints are current gen only

[loud oasis]

Well, technically, there are empty placeholder files for them (that don't work) on PC 🤓

[strong imp]

i.. finally got it

comet retro custom

(dont mind the pink wheels, the one from the auto shop is full pink)

[strong imp]

eh

[radiant depot]

Should I get the Audi R8?

[void trench]

if you care for the Audi R8 in real life, sure

[lament briar]

get it its nice to have

[radiant depot]

Gta

[void trench]

i dont know how it performs though

[lament briar]

got too many cars to really care about performance anyways lol

[radiant depot]

Yea idc about preformance mostly want it for the looks

[lament briar]

its got plenty of options, go full bumper cut or keep it stock and nice

[radiant depot]

Ah yes, the pigeon

[radiant depot]

Thats enough for me, imma buy it

[radiant depot]

Damn it looks sexy

[narrow viper]

Wow looks very nice

[viral jacinth]

And expensive. But I'm proud of them all. My little babies

[radiant depot]

The black with red stripes one looks good

[narrow viper]

I like that pink most

[viral jacinth]

Yep pure black, so that the red stripes can pop more

[lone bramble]

Thats foul

Same rims though

[radiant depot]

🔥

[viral jacinth]

Its Rubystone Red actually. Got the hex here

#610A29AA

[lone bramble]

Everyone uses rubystone💀

[weary parrot]

That 10f on the right looks 😩

[viral jacinth]

Who wouldve thought a color made by Porsche could fit on so many other cars

[lone bramble]

I feel like it looks a lot better irl than it does in games, i don't think ive seen a single iteration i really like

[viral jacinth]

True true, maybe because of R*'s shaders and lighting+reflection thingimajig

[lone bramble]

Likely

[worthy plover]

Which F1 is the best/most optimal in terms of performance?

[void trench]

the BR8 should be the best overall

[prime belfry]

if youre on ps5 the peanut absolutely shreds btw

[pure salmon]

🖕

[late cosmos]

this is how it should be done

[stuck hamlet]

gang

[strong imp]

now this goes hard

[fair umbra]

Sorry for bad picture quality, i feel like the rims migyht be too naked? in some walike not enough spokes i guess, what do yall think,

[lunar yoke]

looks like my build for that car on Forza xd

R* hurry up and let mr buy this thing I NEEED my Aprilia ahhh

[fair umbra]

damn, thats like my dream tbh, flowing from gta car and bike love to irl!

which bike is it specificly?

660?

[lunar yoke]

lol i wish i had an rsv4 irl lo i meant more like i had one on xbox but i moved to pc and couldnt buy it in time before they removed it

[fair umbra]

aaaah right lmao

still pretty nice, why had an rsv4?

in the sense of past tense? what u got now?

[lunar yoke]

i wish i had one

[fair umbra]

rightright

friend of mines has the rx50 that thing pretty neat

he worked on it so it goes double what its allowed, that makes it even nicer tbh

[lunar yoke]

they need to ad more touring bikes in gta that would be neat

[lunar yoke]

oooo

they shoukd let us put bags on the bf400

[fair umbra]

havent thought about that... but fair point

[fierce sundial]

any1 know when a car meet is

[fair umbra]

dms

[lunar yoke]

cause like they got rid of the Honda DN-01 (Thrust) from the store so in terms of bikes with bags wr only have the Vindicator, the manchez scout and the bagger

the scout kinda works but the brakes arent attatched to the wheel at all thry move independently

[lunar yoke]

also finally got the 2 suzukis and 2 kawasakis together at last 🥲

(still pissed that i have to settle for the Drag busa tho)

[strong imp]

it doesnt really suits my taste, but its good

looks good, but still doesnt suit my taste

like red isnt (in my opinion) a good dominant color

yuh

i uh.. i dont see an option for pearlescent

oh nvm i am dumb

is like, dark purple a lscm colour?

welp time to go to lscm

i dont see dark purple

ah

@swift sierra like that?

[lunar yoke]

for the manchez scout which should i modle it after

[strong imp]

now this goes hard

(purple underglow looks dark, so i went with hot pink)

[pure salmon]

Eeeehhh...

Make the car white. Or even yellow.

Like a bright ock yellow.

[strong imp]

yea i did that

[pure salmon]

The pearl interferes with the livery, btw.

Which is why I tend to avoid them.

Also, mudflaps.

[narrow viper]

Yo sup \

[strong imp]

[lunar yoke]

yo

[narrow viper]

U guys know what upgrades are good for the Vigilante?

Fr?

[strong imp]

looks like a different shade of black

[narrow viper]

Im talking abt the missiles and shit

[candid fox]

Whats the fastest car for drag without boost

[narrow viper]

I dont have the place to upgrade it

[lunar yoke]

i kinda fuck wiith this ngl

[narrow viper]

Ik

Dont have the money rn

[strong imp]

i uh.. dont know about this one

[narrow viper]

ty anyway

[static stratus]

guys whats best ground vehicle for armour and just missions

vigilante

nightshark>

?

[strong imp]

armored kuruma or its too outdated?

[lunar yoke]

i went wit green and white but ngl might go back to tealish and purple

[candid fox]

Whats the fastest drag car

Yes

Without boost

Anyone know?

[hasty prawn]

Most top speed is Weevil Custom

[candid fox]

Where do i buy it

[hasty prawn]

benny's custom

[candid fox]

Ok ty

Ill try weewil against vortur

[fair umbra]

for real

[lunar yoke]

the retro coolness was too mush to ignore

[fair umbra]

[lunar yoke]

hopefully will pop um some day in the dealers

[fair umbra]

Yk what would be fun, a bike with sidecar... Or is that in the game already idfk

[lunar yoke]

that would be hilarious

[fair umbra]

Can add a gun or so to make it usefull

[lunar yoke]

like this

the fcr 1000 custom could have it that would be cool

[granite wasp]

5 mil budget need a great looking sports car

and performance

not the banshee

have it

i have it already

[lunar yoke]

[granite wasp]

yes that

hmmm

Whats the best performing sports car

it does look good

i looked at the stinger hehe

gto looks bad

ik

[lunar yoke]

[fair umbra]

I Mean yea, im not into the retro military but same thing

[lunar yoke]

modern sidecars are hard to find xd

[granite wasp]

hows the penaud

[fair umbra]

Hahaha fair point

[craggy stream]

Pretty solid

It’s good on PC too

[granite wasp]

old gen performance cars (ps4)?

[craggy stream]

Pretty alright

[granite wasp]

Besides LM87

[lunar yoke]

altho this suits gta really well OTT as fuck

[craggy stream]

It’s a god on all terrains

[granite wasp]

anything else?

HA

[fair umbra]

Gawd damn just imagine 😂

[granite wasp]

popoo

[fair umbra]

I Mean u are pretty easy to shoot though... So is it really practical?

[lunar yoke]

have the ability to use car rims and shir xd

[granite wasp]

YEs but lap time isnt everything

best electric vehicle?

doesnt look that good anything else?

true

Great and good looking electric car

[fair umbra]

Hahahaha damn send an email to rockstar rn fr

[granite wasp]

how bout that

Have it

And its slippeeeeerryyyy

hehege

[lunar yoke]

i can imagine it turning right like a car but flip over if u try turning riht with no one in the side car xd

[granite wasp]

pariah?

is the EGT even a little bit good

pariah isnt half bad

[fair umbra]

Fr

Btw, anyone got a list of cars in gta that the midnight club used? Aka japanese street races cars? (Exept for supra or r34)

[strong imp]

calico gtf is a toyota cecila

futo gtx is the iconic ae86 from initial d

[stuck hamlet]

“ae86 from initial d”

[lunar yoke]

[viral jacinth]

Ayeee nice

[untold coyote]

Does anyone know how to get the colors that change

On cars

[pure salmon]

You mean Chameleon colors?

[olive kettle]

Whats the fastest car in the game

[flat comet]

Overall, the krieger

[sharp zinc]

is there like a list of ranked cars or something

like a spreadsheet with the cars of each class

shut up whore

anyway is there like a spreadsheet with the fastest cars of each class bc I'm trying to see if the widebody R8 is a worthy purchase

[lunar yoke]

Fresh account, ignoring negative ractions, ass i pfp, jeez who would fall for this shit

[sharp zinc]

You can't, you are not on next gen console

[lunar yoke]

!lfg

[simple gorge]

@frozen obsidian, please use the appropriate LFG (Looking For Group) channel:

Cayo Perico: #ps4｜cayo-perico-lfg
Casino Heist: #ps4｜casino-lfg
Old Heist: #ps4｜old-heist-lfg
Vehicles: #ps4｜vehicles-lfg
Everything else: #ps4｜other-lfg

Requested by: @lunar yoke

[lunar yoke]

i just realized my bike outfit looks like a penguin

[marsh harbor]

lol

[pure salmon]

What did I miss?

[lunar yoke]

an account with the descrition i gave was like "Heeeeey trade?, only hori boy dm meeeeeee"

[lunar yoke]

i added the yellow boots to make it even better!

yes what YES WHAT

[supple flint]

What's the best imani tech vehicle?

[narrow viper]

virtue or buffalo stx

[supple flint]

Virtue then as its free?

[fair umbra]

What we thinking?

[safe carbon]

snapmatic quality is so fucking trash

[fair umbra]

i know...

new to car photography and havent found any other application or way yk or i have found but havent totally figured it out

but car wise?

[safe carbon]

just hide the ui in rockstar editor and take screenshots

none of the compression shit, looks much better

[lunar yoke]

penguin biker approves

[fair umbra]

[lone bramble]

Also foul

I understand you like the 90s and 2000s auto salon culture, but i do not and i find every single one of those cars disgusting

[lunar yoke]

imma make this in forza , fuck it

[stuck hamlet]

Pretty sure it says guffy and is in hoodie or designer hoodie section of clothes store

[lunar yoke]

I actually think I got it at the casino

[pure salmon]

Excellent. I will proceed to further trigger you then.

[lone bramble]

I mean damn if thats your goal thats pretty sad

Also honestly couldnt care less so go for it⁉️

[verbal crypt]

i have a website

[verbal crypt]

no where close

if your thinking of 811 still not

if we are not talking abt new gen its weevil custom

[verbal crypt]

Itali Gto/Rsx

[heavy garden]

Do you know how to run rockstar editor

[fair umbra]

Nowp, closests thing i know to that iss director mode but thtas prob something whole diff

[heavy garden]

Hey I’ve noticed something really odd. The buffalo sport Franklin has. It has really accurate tail lights to the chargers irl

[lone bramble]

Possibly the most basic choices

And honestly theyre pretty meh

[verbal crypt]

looks are not that good

but their best choices for races

[lone bramble]

And what they asked for was looks

[verbal crypt]

and performance

[lone bramble]

Everyone uses the italis

Be different

Own a nebula turbo

[verbal crypt]

and pariahs

[verbal crypt]

majestic car

[lunar yoke]

nope never

[heavy garden]

We need more jack sheep cars in gta lol

The only jacksheep is the mower

[muted tinsel]

whats a good car that can use to impress people or for car shows, thats fast, wgood turns
give color and name pls (no modded)

[brave breach]

Does anybody have the revolter that they can give me?

[marsh harbor]

!lfg @brave breach vehicle

[simple gorge]

@brave breach, please use the appropriate LFG (Looking For Group) channel:
Vehicles: #ps4｜vehicles-lfg

Requested by: @marsh harbor

[heavy garden]

Depends on the meet

[flat comet]

What are u on about💀they didnt ask for top speed they just asked whats the fastest car. And the krieger/lm87/emerus are the fastest cars all around

[brave breach]

Isnt this a vehicle channel?

[marsh harbor]

Not for lfg

for discussing vehicles, sure.

But for looking for vehicles that someone else has and you want is intended for LFG.

#ps4｜vehicles-lfg

[brave breach]

Oh ok my bad

[muted tinsel]

bring ur best car meet lets say

[lunar yoke]

"best" depends ont he crow you are playing with

[heavy garden]

I personally bring a nicer looking ubermacht

[muted tinsel]

what do u think is a good car

[muted tinsel]

that matches this

[heavy garden]

Bmw cars have class

[lunar yoke]

youre asking the wrong guy for cars i only have a stratum an 20+bikes

[muted tinsel]

lol

[heavy garden]

I have only cars and select bikes.

The only bikes I own are from SOA

Or tried to replicate

[lunar yoke]

i usaullly look up the bike its based off of and try and find interesting builds to replicate

[marsh harbor]

nice

[lunar yoke]

i love how this bike looks but its kinda useless xd

[silver vault]

anyone wanna go for a bike or car cruise around the city/desert?

[simple gorge]

@silver vault, please use the appropriate LFG (Looking For Group) channel:

Cayo Perico: #pc-l｜cayo-perico-lfg
Casino Heist: #pc-l｜casino-lfg
Old Heist: #pc-l｜old-heist-lfg
Vehicles: #pc-l｜vehicles-lfg
Everything else: #pc-l｜other-lfg

Requested by: @marsh harbor

[flat comet]

Respectfully, shutup oscar

[void trench]

calm down hothead
Diabolus Custom

[marsh harbor]

!lfg @summer orbit vehicle

[simple gorge]

@summer orbit, please use the appropriate LFG (Looking For Group) channel:
Vehicles: #xb-s｜vehicles-lfg

Requested by: @marsh harbor

[summer orbit]

Sorry but Nobody answers me back

[marsh harbor]

That channel is the correct place, here isn't.

[winged nacelle]

how's it

[novel valley]

too much imo

splitter and livery doesnt really fit

[safe carbon]

vintage plate on a modern car

[novel valley]

ya that too

[cobalt salmon]

is grotti tourismo supposed to be a good car

[safe carbon]

what constitutes as "good"

[novel valley]

performance wise not really

[lone bramble]

Rusty plate 🔛🔝

[loud oasis]

I'll never understand the urge to throw super-aggressive aero and other shit like that on German high-performance sedans/wagons.

[lone bramble]

Aero