#gta-vehicles
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it might handle great
but for me
the looks kill it
it looks like some shit straight outta cyberpunk
I mean yeah that’s what’s cool now
I dig it, restomodding is going mainstream
I just wished we got the Hyundai instead of the new Renault
Anybody wanna do some racing at the airport, preferably muscle cars
now this looks cool
but isn't it based on the Deloren?
no
Hyundai Pony prototype from the 70s
that shit looks like a DeLorean bro
theres another new delorean though and it looks like this
that is not very good
tbh, doesn't remind me of DeLorean
@craggy stream
why don't we ever bring back plymouth, or pontiac?
Because they’re failures
bro got that deluxe stick shift
i liked plymouth
plus, didn't they shut down cause of the 2008 thing
Yeah
so, it wasn't their fault
yk
lots of companies had to shut down during those times too
I mean it shut down because they didn’t have enough money
Economic crisis or not, going bust is going bust
yet toysrus came back
Toys-R-Us is a single company
Plymouth is part of a conglomerate that’s already making other companies
true
but can't someone buy the company or something..? or will we never see a plymouth or pontiac car again
Making a company is expensive
so
Look at lordstown motors
not likely?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Studebaker also came back and it was a scam
Car companies just aren’t going to be expanding that much now that there’s so many different new regulations
Chevy is making two new companies
cause ik dodge is going electric, vettes are now super cars, camaro is idk, and mustang is still gas
Camaro and Corvette will be different brands with multiple cars
so
Camaro will be an EV offered as a coupe and sedan while corvette goes as a sports car, SUV, and etc
is then next camaro gen is ev?
Pretty much
damm
so mustang is the only one left
that sucks
tbh tho I fw the dark horse, or whatever it's called
@tawny ridge what's da price for the gp1
Wasn't the GP1 removed when R* Thanos snapped a bunch of cars from the websites?
Ah yeah
Totally didn't rip off Hummer
Chevy will probably drop an SUV EV and slap the Camaro name on it 💀
That's where we're heading
I mean it’s not the first time this has happened
Ford and dodge did it first decades ago
ahem mach e ahem
“Waaah American companies are having another identity crisis and this time I’m witnessing it” 
2027 camaro
wheres the new cycle
In pedal to the metal
bicycle website
By the end of the decade, all American cars will be SUV EVs
Probably, or not
Markets change 🤷
The Mustang had an identity crisis that lasted only 4 years
new legendary car have imani tech?
YA
does it look weird
If your Interested in car meets or drag racing dm, I’m making a group for it
Maybe one shade lighter on the secondary
Other than that it looks great
what's with the child consuming grille
It reminds me of the Omnis kinda
gah damn
how can i give my friend my car for permanently
the peanut is fast
yes
Is this a cool theme
Hey guys,is the Sultan Rs classic worth to buy for 1,4M
?
Helllo?
I need someone to answer my fcking question
most patient gta player
Hey
1 minute
Good to see that gta has hit a new low
Fastest car period, fastest off road and anything else in any class
WIP.
iykyk 
Should of tinted the windows
The windows are pitch black in the movies
Or pitch purple
Tfw no colored window tints. 
You found a new merge yet though?
The coureuse has pulsing lights that’ll fit it more
The one that's supposedly out rn is ass. Once again tied to auto shop cars.
Yeah, fuck you stinger tt
Likely light color, e.g. dashboard light, which can't be changed.
Unless you use some trickery.
It is
That’s why I was suggesting you’d merge it
Wait a minute or it does 1 minute around the track? 
yes

1 minute and a couple milliseconds non HSW.
It's 7th in Sports.
Which is still pretty good
Actually with HSW off the new car is 2nd
Coureuse - 1:00.811
Gto - 0:59.727
Pariah - 1:00.828
so it’s very balanced on PC and old gen
Since there’s a Barbie car is there an Oppenheimer car
is it electric?
That's non hsw, yes? So it's 2nd in sports for old gen, yes?
is coureuse electric?
Yes
cool how much/
1 990 000
100%
Less than 2M
Slow acceleration for an electric car isn't it?
obliberates any car in its way
im not sure about that cuz electric cars feel almost the same on last gen
Well, the peanut has a slow acceleration, at least for old gen
like zooming but how fast compared to each other
Hey sophie 
Heyo
Not much top speed but lots of grip
it was that good? i never knew
yeah i saw broughy's video. grippy sock
Issi sport and peanut share one thing, extreme grip
bruh
It's less than 2M
Reno out? Or is this just early testing
issi sproot has bad brakes
Could always settle for the electric bikes instead, it's only 50k
well yes i can see that
Out and it broke gta
broughy tested
its less than 2 mil
Yes
Do I even need lock on jammer? Just dodge the missiles with it's grip
So what's this? 
yeah i love that thing. always wanted a different bike from bmx to kill npcs with
Stinger TT owners are absolutely seething rn
played gta 5 months ago so idk whats in the new update
non hsw. the peanut with hsw kills. literally
the inductor is honestly terrible
And I'm absolutely loving it rn
A pedal bike and an electric restomod supercar
the way they implemented it is so fucking stupid
Junk time trials lol
It’s the scorcher with boost
kers
whats the new bike
I only got told how to active the boost half way through the time trial and still made it on time lmao
Im assuming there is still no working merges
No and I wanna merge as soon as I do find one
I got a pocket raiju tho

I want the pulsing indicators
but it's not like an e-bike, it's a normal bike with a really weak boost
Does the inductor have performance upgrades?
no
you still have to do some pedaling to get the energy unless the inductor takes energy from the sun. the point is it takes a while
Wouldn't say it's weak
Were we really expecting it to be useful anyways? It’s the perfect shitpost
Did u see what i posted yesterday? Someone on xbox got the ghostbuster car early
it could've at least been fun
epic how much
The boost isn't that bad

dub
Do you know him?
I'll just wait for a French guy to kill mk2s with it
I think a guy on Playstation also got it
From a youtubers community yea. But inly way to get it is through gctf. Which I believe the recent method i tried was patched. Which is how i got a raiju in my moc now
Have you killed anyone with it yet
Yea the guy on xbox most likely got it off someone who transferred to xbox from ps
Oh can you not LSCM it?
They said u cant buy cars that aren’t released yet
Ah
Nope not yet 
Idk how rockstar found the glitch so fast to patch it in 4 days
@gentle nest u got unreleased cars, right?
I got a theory
youtube
In two weeks we’re getting the hotring
September we’re getting the conada
And then in october the brigham will be out
Do they got teams of people that just look for glitch posts
Rockstar employees lurking on youtube
All I hope is they never take away my pocket jet
What glitch
Gctf
GCTF
well shit they might. youtube and twitter
Atm I'm using my autoshop
Merge methods are so scarce now. Only the autoshop methods are available
MF R* SHOWING OFF THE COLORABLE INDICATORS 💀
merge are like giving cars other cars's wheels right
Smh my head
Other cars properties
Taking customization from one car, and applying it to another car
Hard to obtain tints, wheels, liveries, and sometimes just weird cosmetics like hidden rollcages
Speaking of that I got a hearse without the casket
Lemmie go take a pic in a bit
And i have Micheal chilling in my beejay

Hes under the blanket in the back obviously
staying warm
Can someone describe to me what a modded car is in gtao
An eyesore car that has a shit paint job, and terrible wheel choices
Cars you find on the internet and transfer it to either sp or 3rd party servers
But if its pc, then its just a normal add on you can download
I've been trying to get a comet but I think I'll get every single car in gta b4 that
Such as this hotring fortune
i thought there was 1 nascar
2 hotrings
Soon 3
But more cars can be turned into nascar looking cars
liveries, roll cages n stuffs, some fishnets
Hotring everon and soon hotring hellfire
Fishnets 
Gonna get everon trade price while making money and lvling up
😏
In-game it's window net
They are nets and look like fish nets but calling them fish nets is funny
i mean you can catch some fat-ass fish on it
basically to contain the driver in da car
yeah or catch some driver with it
stop some wheel hitting the driver or a diff part
Is anyone willing to grind with me I’m new and need money
grind rails on a bmx?
No grind money
isn't destroying money illegal
💀
yes
Vc
i think you can for a bit . skilled bike users can do a bunch of stuffs. even wallclimb
can someone throw some lowrider favorite builds?
Is the Torero XO worth buying? I have 2.6 million that I'm willing to splurge on because of the sale. (I have 7.5million total)
its a pretty cool car
^
I yolo'd it. Didn't do the best job paint wise (I'm bored, and lazy rn)
Gotta change the interior and probably wheel color
It's really REALLY clean driving around though.
i love mine
Yeah I can’t send images 🗿
Ask if anyone has the s80rr with the ecola livery
Anyone got a sterling gt?
should i get the new baguette
You should
absolutely
It’s fast and it’s cool
@robust swallow someone fixed the Stallion
Makes me realize how shitty the Stallion is
Maybe in 6 we’ll get an improved stallion
Anyone got a sterling gt
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i always noticed lol
I mean I noticed the side profile but I never saw how long and narrow it was
vanilla stallion looks like shite
Then again I never bought it because I always hated the proportions
Stallion may have looked weird but i never really cared for it
I'm loving the hotring races
yall playing these racing modes
some of you guys cant drive
these contact on races are giving me pain bro
90% gta playrs apparently cant take turns
What did you expect. This is gta 
anyopne got the comet that i can buy
I'm just that good
Ended up winning despite him teaming up with a buddy in the race
They had the same car, no livery, same color
Yo guys, i need some tips
Every one of my Cars that I can change the Interior Color has the White Color in them, I feel like it feels like something a bit too Generic
What color should I use instead?
graphite
@prime belfry I forgot to show you it lmao
I just don't want to use Dark Colors
no wonder all of your cars are so ugly
I was thinking about something like Salmon, Diamond Blue and Cream depending on the Main Color of the Car
Yeah, motherfucker, but imagine they look average
Now, help me?
i already told you the correct answer
Graphite is not an option for me
Has anyone tested out La Carousse? I wanna know if it's good or not
define "good"
Top speed

I predicted it would be best for lap time. Even without hsw it almost did it
hey look a boat on a boat x3
Nice pics
not lore friendly, don't care
How do PC players obtain the old card that were removed? I was thinking of starting a fresh character
you dont
Wait, really?
So they removed them and made them periodically attainable for console players and just screwed over PC players? What the hell?
auto shop customer cars, luxury autos, simeon's and lscm test rides
From the various car dealerships
and of course you can just cheat
Now I’m more confused. Did they not remove the cars on PC?
They removed them from the websites so you can't buy them anytime you want to
You'll have to wait for them to show up in the dealerships or lscm
And it resets weekly
Ah.
no
…alright
@craggy stream u can remove the spoiler on the reno
Yeah
Same
most american thing
who cares about lore friendly they are sick pictures
makes it cooler
It's not specifically a parody location tho right?
the game in its entirity is
what car should I buy? my budget is around 2.6M
not lore ☝️ 
hott
How does that make a car good?
Why do so many ppl come here and only ask for top speed?
airport drag racing or "hold gas to win race" mindset
itll never change
Is there like a very very popular drag racing community server or crew? Theres a lot of ppl asking for good cars for drag racing
Drag racing is just boring as well
There's nothing much to it
Grab the fastest car and just be good enough with launch and shortshifting, nothing else
Only thing I’m hoping for with the next update is the Bravado Mastodon
I tested it
Just feels right
Is kinda upper average
But feels like a Compact
Nice brakes
But not really high speed
i fw it
I like it
Issi sport but better
Maybe slower acceleration
It feels slow when accelerating
Oh well
Yeah
Maybe it's because it's electric and I don't hear it going through the gears
ooo
how much is it?
Yeah pics of modded cars are boring
And annoying
"woah whats the name of this ca- oh nevermind"
Fastest off road car in sports and second fastest sports car around a road course without HSW
oh damn
penaud car really worth it? without hsw
uh, personally I think it looks ugly asf
but u can buy it
its pretty nice
Def worth it
Professional camera man ong
It’s the 2nd fastest sports car in the game without HSW
😔
the first renault car we get, and it's that
bruh
Not the first Renault
I gotta get y'all for the next heist on my crew cuz the camera man never dies
then?
goodluck
Id always thought it was a citroen
also lampadati being maserati
Completely forgot about renault
gta confuses me
Nah, it's just French
we we
I remember the pigalle had something to do with French stuff
It's a French car but not a Renault yeah
What the fuck does "FW" mean?
fuck with
is it a maserati?
Fuck with
nah
That too
so aggressive damn
it means with fuck @narrow viper
But also a Citroën
I did not mean to ping myself
@swift sierra
yea
But Citroën sm
is*
Like always, it's a mix of cars
👍🏼
The Pigalle is based on the European styling of the Citroën SM in the front, while the greenhouse shape and rear resemble the Maserati Merak, Ghibli I and Lamborghini Espada (although the rear fascia most closely resembles that of the Ghibli I).
can't the pontiac firebird in game also a catfish camaro?
damn
Only in ways that there are a BUNCH of cars that look like that
I knew it was French cuz it was mentioned b4 but also knew that Renault was French from somewhere else
I just mixed the 2
@candid venture how is this based on a mustang
Citroen SM
Start reading
It's one of the cars
^
so could it possibly be a mix of a dark horse and a 2023 stang?
The gtx is foul
ain't mine
Gtx makes me so excited and happy 😁
Its too old to be based on anything from this year
so?
what's your idea then
Ik, im saying in general its fugly
¯_(ツ)_/¯
So it aint?💀
do u think the dark horse is ugly?
That is not a dark horse
it kinda looks like it
the headlights are more on the line of a dark horse than this
The gtx came out before a dark horse
Are you saying it's based off of that before it even was a sketch? Or am I misunderstood @narrow viper
I see it
ik ik
thats why I'm confused how they took a mustang and made it into that thing
Ford mustang gtt
It's a Ford mustang combined with a Ford GT apparently
Yikes
oh..
thats
interesting
im so glad rockstar hired new vehicle moddlers post casino update
recent cars been looking ever so much more real
@lone bramble
Work of art fr fr
Custom bodykit if you couldn't tell
the macan>
oh nah i couldnt tell
Art been going downhill since bob ross
Who's that
...
Bobby rossy
Doesn't ring a bell sorry
He doesn't work at a church so
No clue
wow
Looks old
Oh
nah, I done knew he was
btw what's up with the audi e tron obsession on ur profile?
i like e tron
Ive always thought your pfp was two dudes shaking hands
how 😭
it's really nice looking, saw a couple in the neighborhood
From afar you can see the white shirt cuffs peaking outta the jacket
yes
and to make it better
gta version is like
identical
yeah
yeH
yrG
yeah*
I love the styling but i despise electrics
¯_(ツ)_/¯
i dont mind electric cars tbh
and the evx?
Why?
No vroom vroom
SEE
Wow
That's so bent
try tell me this doesnt look cool
Youre bent
You love men genosis
Whos genosis
imma bend you 😉
Ai
a star wars planet
You
why's genosis
We both wrong
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Tough😔
Nerds
Thats a map?
I didnt lile the third person so didnt buy it
it's first person
Since when
Is it normal to get dead slots?
Ffs I just got two of them and I don’t even know why
I never was able to use first person wym
All I did was sell a nightshark because I never used it 
bad image but whatever
Huhhhhh
you hold either left or right d-pad
it's ez
lol
Could probably buy it for a dollar now cos its so dead
You two are so nerdy
bro, it's star wars
Cry about it ashton🤓
star wars is cool tbh
Nerdiest name
Ashton is NOT a nerdy name
HOW
Ashton sounds like somebody that corrects the teacher abt the homework she forgot to ask abt
Do you think of a man or woman when you think about the name ashton
✊
what does that mean
Means I got nothing else to say
yes
Its top 3 nerdiest
ong
Le dream merged car
is that car worth it? like its fast?
Fast around a track
Slow in top speed
also is expensive af
Very
No wing, colored lightbar, and white stocks
Turbofan builds gonna go hard
They lightbar comes black but now it’s white (green to make it more obvious)
I like how the i wagen looks but I hate almost everything about it
I only like how normal and boring it looks
i like the door handles
Wow
why wouldn't you like the door handles
Oh no you would totally like the door handles
Anyone wanna run some hanger missions
How do you trade cars now I’ll give someone who shows me some of my cars
Yt
No
Me
100%
no thats my friend
we aint friends, u hate me
remember all those times u called me shovel
Shovel
Fitting name ngl
Shovel
Change yr server name to it
whats my prize if i do
A shovel
If the moon is so powerful it can make a tide in the ocean why isn't it making a tide in my coffee @lone bramble
Good fucking question
You'll get it in the mail next week
bet, thanks homie, preciate it
the electric bicycle seems to accelerate on its own, weird controls
its shiiiit
oh well, 50k and uses the wall in any garage, not much of a loss xd
the electric penis car tho, that's a handful
i just want the ecto1, pls release that
bro the electric bike is dope af
if i want to chill then go to the mountains with it, i did that today and was a cool experience (call me weird)
Getting the flashing lights and stock wheel colors @candid venture

Yes, flashing lights and stock whites
Def not F1s
How did u merge them tho
Was it someone else that already had them?
Looking for an Xbox player with the Pfister Comet. Would like to go to ls car meets and copy the build so I can have the car
I got the f1s off someone and changed them to stock whites
@craggy stream got it off me too
I got it off someone
So you guys don't know a new merging glitch, correct?
Current merge requires 2 consoles and a netcut which is lame
Btw I found an easy way to get back into the lsc freely
If u pause when u get in and the car stops, u can then unpause it and the game won't force u into lsc
300r looks better than the real nissan 400z
Not in any way at all
Not really
thats a hot take
🫂
Hey, Redo
Do you own a Tulip?
Normal One
ill have to somewhat disagree for this one, but i can understand
what they have done is taken many changed and applied many of the styling cues from the original 240Z and slapped it on the new Nissan Z body
the front looks better on the 300R, the rest of the car was done better by Nissan's designers
if you mean me, no not yet
what do you mean by normal one
Who the fuck else here is called "Redoundo"?
The Declasse Tulip, not the Declasse Tulip M-100
i get what they were trying to do with the 300r but i just think this does not work
the headlight housing looks pretty goofy
Pfister Headlights
🛌
i think the main issue is how long it is
Yo, compare them
compared to an actual 240z

Will the Comet Headlights Chassis
No
whats with the Tulip
I don't enjoy generic 70s (or 80s) boxy muscle cars.
I want to hear some opinions about it
I mean, i have my own opinions
But i want to complement them
Have Variety Of Ideas
so what is your opinion
Attractive and good handling, kinda average speed and struggles a bit when accelerating but nothing really worrisome, kinda cardboard brakes but good when wheelie
good handling
2\ Mine disappeared when the Insurance Glitch
For a Muscle Car is good for me
Don't slide too much when cornering
it kinda does, but ill put it down to us being used to what the 240Z headlights look like
i mean, it could have looked like that on the Nissan Z
||(except it cant because pedestrian safety rulesets)||
are you not gonna feelsbadman react on the fact that you mentioned you got banned
i mean its a win for many others who dont wanna see your cars
I'm not regret my Ban
i cannot comment on what i dont have, but yeah its looks cool, if a little understated (thats probably down the the real-life car looking somewhat like that)
In fact, I'm glad i was banned, that was taking too long, Rockstar
as for cardboard brakes, its in the muscle category
Now, i can completely wipe my Account
Not really, in my humble opinion
Maybe some people will try to kill me after what I'm going to say, but…
The Stallion has Good Brakes, and also the Dukes Trilogy

Okay, I'm surprised now
Wish they did it more justice in game
The 2000gt styling mixed with it just aint it
its not a good combo
watch, they will do a 2000GT front with the 240Z rear for the next car
I wouldnt put it past them💀
I’m tryna put limo tint on my but one of my friends isn’t letting me cuz they green slightly green should I say fuck it and do it
What
What’s so special bout a green tint that I can’t change it
Oh🤦🏽♂️
Oh yeah nah modded tint
He made it a big deal same wit the Benny wheels
More value in the trading community
So I should or shouldn’t
But no point if youve changed the other stuff so who cares
It got the tint when I merged a car wit f1s on it with the dominator
If the colours are selected at all it has no value
If the car has already Benny's Rims or F1 Wheels, is ugly as fuck and useless
Same with plate and tint
Don’t mind my cash I spent almost a mill upgrade and changing my garage so it can all match
Oof
Yeah lol
You arent planning on trading cars with other people right?
Dk how it that works lol
Oh, god, please…
That's awful
I can make it look better
It wasn't
Oh:/
That was the point of my grind on gta get cars and customized them🫤
Can you read the "Future Shock" part of the sentence?
That means, FUCKING GLOWING STOCK RIMS
And you changed them
That car is now useless
Ugly as fuck
And worthless
Is rude, i know
But is the truth
Just can’t let a yn be happy huh
Man, is nothing personal
That Car is ruined as fuck
what car is that bro?
Even as Stock Colors (Cream And Gold) looks completely better
I just did what my friend told me to do my n chill
Future Shock Vapid Dominator
Wait you talm bout the paintjob or the fact I replaced the stock rims wit f1s
I’m lost
You friend is the typical person who like this
Everything
Everything is bad
Everything is Senseless
this mf goin in
You wrong bout the color
You must rebuild it as stock
Man, the Colors mean nothing for Flash
The car isn't even fast
If it was a ZR380, well maybe
It is tho it goes 110 wit boost
Not as fast as my s95 or ignus
Yk what I’m finna ruin your day wit this car 💀
The ZR380 is the fastest Sports Car without HSW
Just because Arena Boost
I used to have one on my old Xbox
That's even worse
I know 💀
Now you know the deal
It’s ment to hurt you
Meh
Well, you have to rebuild the Car, or merge it to another one
More specifically a ZR380
But that Dominator is simply a Sin
Even mine can look way better
Yes, bad as fuck
The Imperator must be done as Stock
Not even arena customization
Is a Perfect Dragster
Oscar shouldn't really be allowed to voice an opinion on anything vehicle related, but f1s are bad on everything that isnt offroad
I had f1s on it than had a boo-boo and replaced it with an ugly ass rum
Even stock rims are better
Whatchu reccoment ig
For an Imperator?, Leave it stock
For the Dominator, rebuild it
So should I just get rid of my f1 wheels
Get rid of everything, literally
Sand king leave f1s
The Sandking must be sold
Stfu
Cry
Nawh im keepin my sand king it’s my main drive
A Flash Sandking, really?
I said keep f1s
Apart from my dom
Not keep everything else
Have you seen his garage?
But my flash mobiles?
Who mines or his?
dont change the wheels put f1s on every car
Seeing as i said his
Because isn't looking good
You are a disgrace for PC Players
I already took them off🫤
Why are you talking💀
Ight
Because you are talking
Yes, and i actually have decent cars
Yours are horrendous
I half disagree, but half agree
let us see your cars @swift sierra
Like it genuinely doesnt matter your opinion on anything vehicle related is irrelevant
I listened to whatchu said
Okay
And instead of flash colored cars, how about zoom colored cars?
Someone slide a good looking s95 color combos 
I did whatchu asked what do you think of my zoom colored cars
this man is absoloutely cooking up rn
Stock Rims on the Ignus, with Fluorescent Blue Rims Color
Bad or good?

Whatchu reccomend
Stock rims
Ngl I like some of your cats but not your garage
is there a car that looks like this in gta?
yes actually
Maybe the Bifta
Is because they aren't from the same Garage
where can i find that?
u may be out of luck
they took that off the website
Where
is there any way to get a jeep with the top and doors taken off?
Crash it enough
i might just get a military jeep then
Get a bifta
i'm getting both
i'm literally gonna paint the bifta to look like the spidey mobile
i have two spiderman outfits
Sick
i wanna do cop spiderman too but idk how to do the cop suit glitch
he's in the comics
Los Santos Customs
Around the Beach
can you keep it?
I don't think so
Never even seen them spawn
Green and Pink Bifta
Never seen it online
definitely seen the kalahari in online before
Does anyone got a comet that I could buy
!lfg
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Everything else: #xb1|other-lfg
Requested by: @swift sierra
Benny rims are good when used well and looks coherent with the vehicle
F1 wheels are best used sparingly
otherwise ironic shitpost builds are exempt
is the coil voltic removed from the websites?
yes
do you guys have any recomendations for topless cars?




