transportation

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Engine size?

[jagged sentinel]

2.0

[old sedge]

This is the size of the truck

https://www.carousell.ph/p/ford-ranger-raptor-4x4-auto-1162379799/?t-id=HgXKV0kM59_1655468990234&t-referrer_browse_type=categories&t-referrer_category_id=2151&t-referrer_request_id=-vv3xFBVmayApIJZ&t-referrer_sort_by=popular&t-referrer_source&t-tap_index=2

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Modernity is ruining cars.

[old sedge]

The engine is 2.0L biturbocharged diesel engine

[jagged sentinel]

The ranger is considered a midsize truck in the US

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Fuckin midsized?

[jagged sentinel]

Yep

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Shits one of the biggest cars on the road in my country

[jagged sentinel]

If you want a big truck go look at a ram power wagon

[old sedge]

213ps and 500Nm torque

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500foot pounds of torque makes up the small engine size i guess

[jagged sentinel]

Ram power wagon is 260 inches long

[old sedge]

People might say that its engine would break down when hauling heavy loads but hey, it's Ford and have faith in Ford in durability and reliability

[jagged sentinel]

Which equates to about 6.6 meters

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Geez

[old sedge]

But kidding aside, Mazda and seemingly Toyota don't really believe in downsizing the engines

[jagged sentinel]

Trucks get bigger here, don't worry

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I want to buy a 5.0 mustang after this focus is beyond repair. But toyota seems a good route...

[old sedge]

The Hilux and Fortuner here have 2.4L turbodiesel engine and 2.8L turbodiesel engine, 2.4L has modest output and 2.8L has high output but still less hp than the Ranger Raptor's engine.

[jagged sentinel]

Wait, sorry

The power wagon is only 238 inches long

Which is still 6 meters

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Inches?

Oh

[jagged sentinel]

I want a power wagon

Thing is badass

[old sedge]

How will this perform at American highways?

https://www.nissan.ph/vehicles/new/almera.html

1.0 I3 turbopetrol engine

[jagged sentinel]

Fucking yikes

1 liter?

[old sedge]

Yup

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Nahhh

[jagged sentinel]

Does the car even move?

[old sedge]

And only 3 cylinders

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Suzuki moment

[old sedge]

It has 99hp and 152Nm torque so it should move

[jagged sentinel]

There are motorcycle engines bigger than that

[old sedge]

But it will probably still struggle

Someday, the trend of downsizing engines will go out of hand

[jagged sentinel]

It hasn't already?

[safe scroll]

One of my mates when and got a honda cr300. Thing fucking rips with 90hp

[old sedge]

Before, I had discussions here, I was an avid believer that small turbocharged engines are better than large NA engines at almost everyway

[jagged sentinel]

I don't know if a new car sold in the US today that makes under 100 horsepower

[safe scroll]

Not so much now?

[jagged sentinel]

Most compact-midsize cars make between 150 and 250

[old sedge]

I even had an idea that a Dodge Ram and Chevy Suburban should have a 1.8L I4 twin-turbo engine, 2.0L at most.

[jagged sentinel]

They wouldn't fucking move

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Interestingly enough I am currently in the process of pushing 200hp out of my 2.0 engine right now

[jagged sentinel]

They probably wouldn't be very good trucks either

[old sedge]

Yeah, especially that a certified car technician youtuber once said that if he has a vehicle for hauling heavy loads everyday, he still prefers large NA engine over smaller turbocharged engine with same output and his reason is for power demand which NA delivers

[safe scroll]

Scotty kilmer or someone else?

[jagged sentinel]

You can get big power out of a turbo

[old sedge]

Someone else, here in Ph

[jagged sentinel]

But reliably and consistently at all RPMs...

Or low RPMs, anyway

[old sedge]

He also said that in his reason for choosing NA

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20-30ish hp on most small fwd cars.

[jagged sentinel]

Which turbos are very incapable of doing

[old sedge]

Btw, Jason Fenske also made a good video about turbocharged engines

His youtube channel is Engineering Explained

[safe scroll]

Ik him

[old sedge]

Not sure if he changed now but 2 years ago, he did make a video about why we shouldn't buy a turbocharged car

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Too think i was going to k20+ turbo swap my car

[jagged sentinel]

I think the next car I'm getting is turbo'd

Not my choice but a new car is a new car

[old sedge]

Although modern turbocharged vehicles have minimal lags nowadays thanks to anti-lag system, VNT/VGT, twin-scroll turbo and especially sequential turbo.

I like the sequential turbo because it gives 2 boosts

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What you thinking?

[jagged sentinel]

My parents are getting me a '22 Ford Maverick

[old sedge]

My dream cars are turbocharged though

Either a Civic Type R or Toyota Supra GR

[jagged sentinel]

My dream cars are pretty much all supercharged lol

[safe scroll]

I can't remember is a maverick an suv or coupe?

[jagged sentinel]

Depends on who you ask

If you ask Ford they'll say it's a truck

But if you ask a truck person they'll say it isn't a truck

[old sedge]

I think the Supra GR would be better in track than its BMW counterpart

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One question 5.0 mustang 2016- 2018 or lexus LS400 2000-2004?

[jagged sentinel]

It's on a crossover frame, which is the first offence

[old sedge]

I would choose Mustang because I like performance cars

[jagged sentinel]

2nd offence is that the bed is only 4.5 ft long (most truck beds are around 6)

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Mustang is 40k dearer

[jagged sentinel]

3rd offense is that it can't tow for shit

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Hmmm... You see them quite a lot though

[jagged sentinel]

The max it can tow is 4,000 pounds, and that's with the best engine and a towing package

[safe scroll]

4000 isn't all that bad

[jagged sentinel]

It is for a truck

[safe scroll]

Not like you are going to be towing a yacht or something

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*half of a truck

[jagged sentinel]

Trucks should be able to tow 5,000 minimum, maybe 6

[old sedge]

Here in Ph, Mustang even the 2.3L Ecoboost are for rich guys, I've been in the US and Mustangs are almost as common as Toyota Corollas here though.

[safe scroll]

Ph.. Where in the world is that?

[old sedge]

Philippines

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Right

[old sedge]

I was really surprised when I saw Mustangs left and right in the US

[safe scroll]

You could import them.. That wouldn't be too expensivr

[jagged sentinel]

Uh

It's the US

[old sedge]

Not to mention those Mustangs are 5.0L V8

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'MERICA!!!

[jagged sentinel]

The birthplace of the mustang

[jagged sentinel]

Again, US

[old sedge]

But what's even more surprising is Mustangs in Canada are cheaper than in the US itself, why?

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Detroit is a ghost town now though

[jagged sentinel]

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Americas price are more inflated and far more taxed than canadas

[old sedge]

Ooooh, that's why

[jagged sentinel]

Plus I'm pretty sure we make some mustangs in Canada

[safe scroll]

The only people you see driving mustangs over here are guys in their thirties unlike america.

[old sedge]

I wouldn't say that, custom duties and import fees for vehicles here are extortionate amount of money

[safe scroll]

RIP

[old sedge]

In fact, the reason why cars here are expensive is because only 4 models here are not imported and even imports from neighboring countries are already expensive, let alone imports from the US

[jagged sentinel]

Buying a mustang practically made next door:🗿
Importing a European-spec mustang from the UK

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Haha

[old sedge]

Maybe Ford should build a Mustang with like 3.0 turbocharged engine but that would probably defeat its purpose of being an American muscle car

[safe scroll]

Well it's been good and all but it's pushing midnight. Thanks.

[old sedge]

Goodnight

[jagged sentinel]

The Ecoboost exists lol

[old sedge]

More powerful than the current Ecoboost, another Ecoboost

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4.0 litre mustang mustang na sold to everyone. That would take ford back to their roots, while still having a profit margin

[jagged sentinel]

Back to their roots how? Just out of curiosity

[old sedge]

Hmmm?

[safe scroll]

Ford was meant to be affordable for everyone

[jagged sentinel]

They are in the US, which is where their roots lie

[safe scroll]

Thats why the model T was cheap and middle-low class could afford it

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Australia has worse inflattion than america and however we don't have anymore factories over here.

[jagged sentinel]

Which would explain the prices

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40k for a 5.0

I wish i was making this up

[old sedge]

Here in Ph, people still don't trust Ford

[safe scroll]

Remind me.. What happened?

[jagged sentinel]

They have a reputation for being a bit unreliable

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Yeah..

[jagged sentinel]

Wait but why a 4.0 liter specifically

[old sedge]

The pre-facelift of the current gen Ford Endeavor/Everest had reliability issues here, particularly with its turbocharger

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I'd say my opinion on ford is biased though

[old sedge]

And here, if you want a vehicle with diesel engine, buying a Toyota is an "almost guaranteed way" to pass the emission test requirements. 😉

[jagged sentinel]

American companies don't seem to make 4.0 engines much

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I wish they would. 4.0 is the reliable-r, cheaper, more efficient, more powerful engine between the 3.0 and the 5.0

4.0 6cyl would be perfect

[jagged sentinel]

Displacement doesn't determine reliability

[safe scroll]

It is however a factor

[jagged sentinel]

Not very much

We have durable engines of all manner of displacements here

[safe scroll]

Less cyl-smaller engine+ simplicty= less to go wrong

[old sedge]

Mitsubishi and especially Isuzu diesels will make you need to be very careful or be apprehended for smoke belching or fail the emissions tests

[jagged sentinel]

LS engines would like to have a talk with you

And just any Chevy 350

[safe scroll]

Hmm

[jagged sentinel]

V8s, between 5.7 and 7 liters, some supercharged, some not

Actually between 5.3 and 7

[safe scroll]

I still don't understand why a shitty rotary engine car, that was nade in japan and sounds like carpet ripping makes jdm fanboys cream

[jagged sentinel]

Because it's a unique engine and it sounds okay

As an engine it's fucking terrible though, I don't care what anyone says

[proper elbow]

I don't understand half the shit that JDM fanboys are in to

[old sedge]

Mazda RX-7 and Mazda 787B: Are we jokes to you?

[safe scroll]

I second this

[jagged sentinel]

Yes, yes they are

[heady swift]

unique engine and sounds great

[old sedge]

But many JDM fanboys are jokes.

[proper elbow]

787B gets a pass

[heady swift]

small but efficient engines are cool

[jagged sentinel]

Those are easily the two most well-known cars that utilized rotaries

[old sedge]

Many JDM fanboys even think that only JDMs can be tuned

[safe scroll]

In a shop or someones garage more often than not

[heady swift]

I mean they blow up the second it hits the road

[safe scroll]

Unique is something i'll sacrifice for reliabilty

[old sedge]

A friend of mine once showed a JDM fanboy a tune shop where American and European performance cars are being tuned and he(JDM fanboy) was really shocked to see non-JDM cars being tuned, how's that?

[jagged sentinel]

Which is weird considering driving it hard every once in awhile is supposed to be good for the engine

[safe scroll]

Had an argument with a guy on this very server about how supras and skylines are not the most powerful cars in existence

[old sedge]

What did he say?

[heady swift]

I mean jdm gained traction as it was relatively affordable performance cars for a wide range of buyers, but these cars cost a fortune these days

[jagged sentinel]

It amazes me that that is an argument that is actually made

[heady swift]

170K for a gtr

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Some shit like " stfu supra is better idc what you say"

[heady swift]

90 for a supra

[jagged sentinel]

Thank you, Universal Studios

[old sedge]

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Thanks F&F

[old sedge]

Tbh, fanboyism and hype are largely the reasons why Nissan Skyline GT-R R34 and 1990s Toyota Supra are why their prices are almost same with a brand new Lambo supercars and for me, that's a blatant scam.

[heady swift]

wdym stock 280 hp v6 is not the most powerful thing in the world

[old sedge]

This includes F&F fanboys

[jagged sentinel]

They aren't worth that much

[heady swift]

I mean it's not the fanboys specifically

[jagged sentinel]

A new huracan goes for like $250,000

If not more

[heady swift]

it's that investors noticed that there was extremely high demand for relatively cheap cars that are no longer made

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iF eVerYone ThInks tHey arE cOOl thEY MusT bE PoWerful

[heady swift]

optimal opportunity to buy a bunch of gtrs and sell them for double

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I hope lexus ls400s don't have this happen to them.

[heady swift]

tbh I really hate those highway rockets, like wtf is the point of a 900hp skyline that can hardly take a corner efficiently

unstable bs

or stanced evo's

[old sedge]

At the current prices for these JDM relics, just buy a base AMG performance car which outperforms those JDM relics in everyway and you will have lots of spare money left.

[heady swift]

yeah but it's about the cars, not the performance

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Yo bro lets rev the fuck out of my camaro and send the piston rod to the moon.-American Highschooler

[heady swift]

the culture is about the tuning an otherwise average powered car and tailoring it to your liking

[old sedge]

If I would buy a classic performance car, I would prefer classic Corvette Stingray

And classic Dodge Viper GTS

Those are beautiful if you ask me

[heady swift]

I'm not a fan of american cars

[safe scroll]

I am very much a ford guy.. But dodge vipers😫 😫

[heady swift]

never liked the idea of big cars with big engines

prefer smaller cars with efficient engines

[old sedge]

Even during the 2000s, the JDM car I liked is Honda/Acura NSX

[heady swift]

there's a reason why small hatchbacks can beat murcielagos or gallardo's

on the track

[proper elbow]

They wont

Ever

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K20 swap my Focus???

[old sedge]

And Lancer Evo as well as Subaru WRX STi

[heady swift]

[heady swift]

yeah shame they're no longer made

current wrx is ehh

[old sedge]

WRX is going downhill if you ask me, I like the older ones better

[heady swift]

I mean there's no competition

[old sedge]

The pre-hatchback

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Lancers and WRX used to be cool. Not so much now

[heady swift]

subaru doesn't enrol in wrc and has no competitors

[heady swift]

I mean lancer was never cool

evo was

[old sedge]

Post-Evo era Lancer models are jokes

[safe scroll]

I don't mind lancers, evos used to be a car I dreamt of owning, especially the 1999 one.

[heady swift]

I always loved the 5 and 6

didn't like the 7-9 as much

they also dropped out of wrc

[safe scroll]

6 is dope

That reminds me when is the next WRC championship. i want to see if i can go?

[heady swift]

https://www.wrc.com/en/championship/calendar/wrc/

next season isn't announced yet

really curious how they'll do in greece and japan

[old sedge]

This is an amazing rally car.

https://gran-turismo.fandom.com/wiki/Peugeot_206_Rally_Car_'99

[heady swift]

the new fin, rovanpera, is going insane in his toyota

he's like 20 as well

[old sedge]

Maybe I should buy a 1990s Toyota Celica

Someone is gonna be happy and proud

[heady swift]

yeah makinen will approve

[proper elbow]

Only if GT-Four

[old sedge]

And Scotty Kilmer

[safe scroll]

Do it for scotty

[old sedge]

Rev up your engines!

[safe scroll]

His laugh is infectious

[final robin]

I loved the way 206 looked so well proportioned

[old sedge]

What do you guys think of this track? Would this be good irl?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Kq2Ft5EtuI

[honest herald]

Alright which on of you slammed the navigator

[final robin]

Its not broken its stanced

[main cosmos]

Stooopid

[proper elbow]

OE air suspension moment

[safe scroll]

Reckon i get rotiform wheels for my focus?

[old sedge]

I want the last gen Ford Focus which has 1.6 turbocharged engine.

Although I heard that it used the Ford powershift transmission which had issues

[safe scroll]

1st gen SVT?

[safe scroll]

All auto focus's are unnresponsive dog shit

[old sedge]

Oh

And wait, it's not 1.6, it's 1.5

https://www.autoindustriya.com/car-reviews/2016-ford-focus-hatchback-sport-plus.html

[safe scroll]

Is it 1st, 2nd or 3rd gen?

Oh third gen.

[old sedge]

And nvm, this uses 6 speed AT

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Yeah 2010-2012 all have bad transmission

Low key tryna pick these up

[old sedge]

I heard that Ford reverted its Ecosport's AT to torque converter due to issues with their powershift DCTs

[main cosmos]

Love my focus

It's so fun to drive

[old sedge]

I would pick Ford Focus over Honda Civic RS Turbo

[main cosmos]

Dont like the look of the new civic

[old sedge]

I'm fine with it but I like the outgoing gen's instrument cluster more than the new one

[jagged sentinel]

It needs to look more sporty imo

[final robin]

Aah i don't like the way the type r is expected to look
I dig the si tho

Really high dash to axle ratio for a civic and small rear overhang

More bimmer than honda

[urban pond]

the New Si could use some work its nice but it just doesnt have that cool Si look last Gen had

[final robin]

True

Also no coupe

[urban pond]

Integra should have had a coupe option

[final robin]

Aah really disappointed with that car

Not even acuras nice awd as option just a redressed civic

[kind osprey]

I'm in love

[opal forum]

Why...

[kind osprey]

this is just art

ac cobra on the body of a mini

it's fucking funny

[uncut saddle]

why does it

not even look that bad

I kinda like it

[sage roost]

Looks cute

[uncut saddle]

if it comes with some proper performance I'll take it

[old sedge]

I have a question in off-roading. What advantage does specific off-road(such as mud terrain, desert tires and snow tires) tires have over all-terrain tires?

[safe scroll]

Value for money and grip levels. Only one over the all terrains that i would buy are the snow ones. The all terrains can have different psi and become desert, mud and sand tyres.

.

VTEC sounds simple as an acronym but when you look at the technology... Holy shit it is interesting

[old sedge]

Grip levels? They have higher grip levels for their respective off-road over all-terrain?

[jagged sentinel]

[hard bough]

[jagged sentinel]

[uncut saddle]

awesome

[jagged sentinel]

It was magical

My the first give-it-the-beans acceleration was a blur

[final robin]

Wow

[warped vigil]

488 gtb 😩

[surreal saffron]

This is true beauty.

[final robin]

Great car

Retinue mk3 when

[kind osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/877722218224840715/988170800865632266/IMG_3139.mov

[rotund totem]

Made in Germany with much love

[final robin]

Not a huge fan of the wrap but great v10

[final robin]

🤌

[hybrid charm]

Ok

[opal forum]

Omg, cheburek!

[hybrid charm]

bro my cousin in romania steals better cars

[proper elbow]

I pay you to draw my Montero

[urban pond]

As much as I want new headlights I love the 86 insignia on them

[final robin]

Nice detail 👌

[safe scroll]

Yep

[ruby acorn]

Ohhh, Ford Sierra

[mint plank]

https://www.drive.com.au/news/wild-six-wheel-rolls-royce-phantom-spied/

Is this a boot or a mafia sized body basket lmfao

[final robin]

[jagged sentinel]

Never going offroad in its life

[kind osprey]

That thing is fucking wacky

The tires are too thin, so I'm sad it's not an actual crawler

[proper elbow]

Perfect example of "I have more money than sense"

Yeah it's cool and unique, but what a hateful terrible little machine. People gotta ask themselves whether or not they should rather than could.

[old sedge]

Well, diesel fuel has become more expensive than petrol fuel here, I'm happy we have a petrol powered car

[proper elbow]

Petrol (premium at least) is more expensive than diesel here, which is crazy. Can't remember a time where this was the case until now.

[final robin]

It has always been the case here

[old sedge]

I'm not fond of diesel anyway because of their unit and maintenance costs

[jagged sentinel]

Petrol engines can be expensive too

[old sedge]

Well, one big reason why petrol engines are cheaper to maintain than the diesel engine is many NA petrol engines are still here while virtually all diesel engines are turbocharged nowadays

But diesel engines last longer than petrol engines before needing maintenance

[hybrid charm]

Dubsta 6x6

[errant hazel]

when an idiot goes to a whole nother level

[mint plank]

wanna see a practical 6x6?

[errant hazel]

sure

[mint plank]

https://unsealed4x4.com.au/toyota-79-series-dual-cab-6x6-conversion/

@errant hazel

[errant hazel]

starter kit for explorers

[mint plank]

[final robin]

Wow

[hybrid charm]

Ya girl got skill

[final robin]

🤌

Ford's Very Gay Raptor
Actual name btw

[vestal garnet]

[digital lily]

Gay cowboy mobile

[final robin]

To be fair i see these type post with local brands in india too
Modern cars crumple a lot for pedestrian and passenger safety so its not really a surprise

[digital lily]

Pedestrians? Is that what you call speed bumps?

[final robin]

[heady swift]

Yet the bmw is safer for both pedestrians are drivers

The crumble zone mitigates much of the impact from collision

[digital lily]

more expensive to fix in a minor crash though

Seals the deal

[heady swift]

Yes, but I value my health more than my pocket

[digital lily]

I take Yugoslav shitbox

[heady swift]

Plus a cheap 2004 vw golf has the same crumble effect

For a tenth of the price

[jagged sentinel]

Normally I'm largely indifferent to fiero replicas but

https://www.carscoops.com/2022/06/youd-be-forgiven-for-thinking-this-fiero-based-replica-is-an-actual-lamborghini-miura/

[final robin]

Pretty decent

[old sedge]

A physics professor told me that many new cars crumple more easily for safety of the passengers then he said "I don't know about American muscle cars though, if those cars crashes to a cement, the cement will break".

[jagged sentinel]

Old muscle cars from before the 80s crumbled like paper in a collision

[old sedge]

I didn't know that

[jagged sentinel]

https://youtu.be/C_r5UJrxcck

Beyond primative "front bumpers", indicators, seatbelts and mirrors, car safety wasn't really a thing until 30-40 years ago

By that I mean it really wasn't much of a concern

[final robin]

True

[steady hearth]

Very

Niether was good gas mileage

[final robin]

At low speed impact of course they seemed strong but at high speed impact it crumpled a lot because body on frame

[jagged sentinel]

We started doing that due to the oil crisis in '73

Of course we were total shit at it at first

[steady hearth]

Lol

[final robin]

Tuners nerf irl

[steady hearth]

Lol

[final robin]

This thing with 8.2l v8 made 190hp

[steady hearth]

Hol up

[final robin]

This was chevys big block the 5 liter one made like 130💀

[steady hearth]

This is my dream car

[final robin]

I really love those

[steady hearth]

Yea

[final robin]

I wish we had a modern chevelle basically ct5v coupe

[steady hearth]

Yea

[final robin]

Bigger more comfortable camaro

[main cosmos]

and 5MPG?

[steady hearth]

I just hope they don't make it like the 2000 Camaros

[final robin]

Oo yea the fish face

[steady hearth]

Yea

[final robin]

True

[jagged sentinel]

It took us like 35 years to bring our engine outputs back up to acceptable performance levels

Bacon

[final robin]

[main cosmos]

building engines is not easy especially when all you think about is burgers

[jagged sentinel]

And fuel economy

And environmental protection

Whatever that is

[main cosmos]

im giving up on my v8 man

[jagged sentinel]

I'm giving up on getting one

[final robin]

Now that i think of it 2000s look like the modern 60s

[steady hearth]

I'm talking late 2000s

Or I mean late 90s lol

Wait

Not that one iether

Hol up

[final robin]

Yea all the best cars came from 90s early 00s

[steady hearth]

Gimme a min

[final robin]

High performance cars were still manual

[steady hearth]

This one

[jagged sentinel]

Ah, the first time the Camaro outsold the mustang

A shame it was that pitiful model year

[steady hearth]

Lol

[final robin]

I think the trans ams looked better

In that period

[steady hearth]

Yea

[jagged sentinel]

A lot of cars did tbf

[steady hearth]

The gto's

[final robin]

True

[steady hearth]

It looks kinda the same as the trans am tho

[jagged sentinel]

I don't really like any mid-late 70s American cars

[jagged sentinel]

That was pre-oil crisis though

[final robin]

Oi 70 is way better than 76

[steady hearth]

It looks exactly like a trans am

True

[jagged sentinel]

We couldn't get our collective shit together until the 80s

[steady hearth]

Lol

[jagged sentinel]

Even then a lot of our once-great American muscle icons either died outright in the 80s or they were fucking butchered

[final robin]

Wasn't there a charger in the 80s which was a rebadged mitsubishi

[steady hearth]

Did u know that technically the Bugatti was German but sold to the French?

[jagged sentinel]

Vice versa

Originally French but now owned by Volkswagen Group now

Which of course is German

But the original factory was in land that was disputed between France and Germany at some point

[steady hearth]

Yes

[jagged sentinel]

Either during WW1 or WW2, don't remember

[steady hearth]

1902

[urban pond]

Founder was originally Italian too

[jagged sentinel]

So I guess it depends on how you look at it

[steady hearth]

Yea

[urban pond]

Bugatti: a nationality crisis

[jagged sentinel]

But as far as the brouchers are concerned Bugatti is French but are also owned by a German company

[final robin]

That explains why even the classic cars weren't as quirky as the citroens or peugeots

[urban pond]

As long as the origin is French I’d still consider it a French brand

[jagged sentinel]

I see it the same was as calling Mazda Japanese despite being owned by Ford at one point

[steady hearth]

U know alot people underrate the peugeots

[final robin]

True

[urban pond]

Some Peugeots are cool but I like Renaults more

[final robin]

Peaugeot 206 is one of my favorites

[steady hearth]

Yea

[urban pond]

I’m a big sucker for the RS trim hatch backs

[steady hearth]

When did they make this

They made a supercar Peugeot

[urban pond]

I think back in 2017?

[steady hearth]

Oh dam

[urban pond]

Either way it was a concept car

[steady hearth]

Oh

[urban pond]

No wait it was 2012

[steady hearth]

They didn't release it?

[urban pond]

Nope

[steady hearth]

Oh

[final robin]

I remember this in asphalt really pretty

[steady hearth]

Oh yea

[jagged sentinel]

A copper outer body probably wouldn't be very good in the real world

[steady hearth]

It was too expensive for me when I had asphalt

[urban pond]

Was GT sport for me

[steady hearth]

Looks kinda like the cyclone in GTA

[urban pond]

I still wonder why French companies pulled out of NA

[steady hearth]

Dam just lost some down force

[jagged sentinel]

Japanese companies already had the compact market firmly in their grasp

[urban pond]

Canada should have kept them at least since we got Quebec

I just wanted a Megane RS

[steady hearth]

Lol

[jagged sentinel]

Plus the US was starting to explore it too

[jagged sentinel]

Now they just use our cars

Hell we built half our cars in Canada

Why else would they have a Kph speedometer

[urban pond]

I know the hellcats are built in Ontario

I think in Hamilton?

No Brampton

[steady hearth]

Lol

This fucking thing be like

[steady hearth]

Lol

[urban pond]

The aztek was so fucking ugly

[steady hearth]

Imagine these were street legal

Good brakes good handling would be one of the greatest car to have

[urban pond]

Miata with Brembos

Ez

[steady hearth]

Lol

[urban pond]

But fuck man brembos are stupid expensive

should have bought a GT with factory brembos

[steady hearth]

Lol

[loud spade]

Breaking Bad throwbacks

[old sedge]

Mr. Bean trolls that car a lot.

[loud spade]

Except it’s blue

[steady hearth]

Its literally like this worst handling car in the world

[loud spade]

Imagine driving that without a passenger

You’d be scraping the floor

[steady hearth]

Lol

[urban pond]

I mean there’s basically training wheels for it

[steady hearth]

How

[urban pond]

Basically just stops the car from tipping on its side

[jagged sentinel]

Tax loopholes bring about some wacky shit sometimes

[opal forum]

Punto 🥵

[heady swift]

You wouldn't be able to drive it

You'd immediately spin out

Engine would overheat at a traffic light

[steady hearth]

How

[heady swift]

Maintenance is a few 100k every year

[steady hearth]

Jesus

[heady swift]

Racing cars have different cooling systems that rely on high speeds

[steady hearth]

Oh

Makes sense they go over like 230 sometimes

[heady swift]

Some have systems which alter the engine's output and compression (rally cars for instance)

But even on highways you can overheat

They're also literally painful to drive

[steady hearth]

Oh

[heady swift]

Roads aren't as bumpless as tracks, yet the suspension is as stiff as a brick

[steady hearth]

Oh yea true

[heady swift]

Track toys should stay on the track

[jagged sentinel]

Not to mention straight cut gears

[old sedge]

Race cars are not designed for comfort so there's that

[rich patio]

is that the mitsuok

[steady hearth]

Nah it's that Hitler

[hybrid charm]

[hybrid charm]

Walt's car

[final robin]

The concept wasn't that terrible imo

Almost every ugly car had a much better looking concept

[ashen carbon]

Almost every car that had a concept car, really.

R35 GT-R is one of the few that I think looked better in production...

... But I still think the prototype looked best, between the concept, prototype and the initial production version:

[final robin]

True prototype is more elegant

400z or Z really looks better than the prototype tho i think it will look better if they split the grill with a red line instead of making the whole top half different

[final robin]

Forgive my poor finger drawing skills

[final robin]

Chad

[hybrid charm]

Yea I want da grill separation

[final robin]

[raven cedar]

the supra mk5's concept

for example

the ft -1 concept

not to say that the supra mk5 is ugly

but the ft1 looked much better

[final robin]

Exactly i was really disappointed at how it turned out

[raven cedar]

i still think its a well designed car

just not like the ft1

BIGGEST DISAPPOINTMENT IS THE BMW ENGINE

kidding, i see you may be a bmw fan

[final robin]

Mk5 looks like a kit car of ft1 on a z4 base

Both z4 and bmws don't look that great bmws never really mastered the small roadster design

[raven cedar]

hm

agreed

the nostril design lately gets too much hate

but i like it

[final robin]

This looks great but not very bmw

[raven cedar]

quite like it

doesnt drive great in assetto corsa tho

lol

[final robin]

Oh

[raven cedar]

what car do you wish was in gta? as a mod atleast?

[final robin]

Oh there are lots

They have a treasure chest of cars in gta4 already designed modeled licensed and named but still not added

the e46, c5 corvette, ferrari 360, db9 etc

[raven cedar]

i have modeled an f1

which i think the community may like in gta

idk anything on modding tho

if i was to work with a modder

[final robin]

Oh nice tho we already have an f1

Mclaren right

[raven cedar]

umm

i cant send a link/pic cuz im not level 5 yet

its the latest f1 design

if you click on my profile

and go to my artstation

you can see it

[final robin]

Oh ill check that

[raven cedar]

found it? should i dm you to show you it?

[final robin]

Looks great

[raven cedar]

it may be too high poly for gta but id work on that

[final robin]

What software did you use

[raven cedar]

Blender 3D

[final robin]

Noice i have to learn that one day

[raven cedar]

Is there a mod like this in game?

the latest f1 design i mean

[final robin]

I dont know much really

[raven cedar]

any idea where id find modders?

[final robin]

In #gta-vehicles there are guys like ashton

[raven cedar]

hm okay

[old sedge]

Gosh, the prototype's headlights look ugly to me

Also, when will Nissan build an R36?

Why do I feel like the new CR-V's dashboard is similar with the new Civic?

https://www.autoindustriya.com/auto-industry-news/2023-honda-cr-v-s-dashboard-looks-familiar.html

Oh well, it's a common practice for manufacturers to give different car models in their lineup similar dashboard, especially if they're based on same platform.

[jagged sentinel]

Because it's cheaper

[loud spade]

I thought they were making an R50 or something?

Probably still a concept

[jagged sentinel]

That wasn't Nissan

[loud spade]

huh

[jagged sentinel]

ItalDesign made the R50

Doesn't seem like something Nissan would design anyway

[old sedge]

I thought so

The good thing about it is it's easier for drivers to adapt when for example, they sell their Civic to buy a CR-V

[jagged sentinel]

Actually, apparently the exterior and interior designs are the only things Nissan did do

[old sedge]

I think there are people who takes time to adapt from one van or even one car to another if the dashboards are very different so having similar dashboards can help them

[jagged sentinel]

ItalDesign is developing, engineering and building the car

At least according to themselves

[old sedge]

Here in Ph, Nissan is one of the JP car manufacturers which have impressive techs

[calm vine]

Fire trucks go weee wooo

[old sedge]

Nissan, Honda, Mazda and Subaru

[calm vine]

The trucks go

Engine 1:2462

[jagged sentinel]

What

[calm vine]

Brush 1:2468

Engine 2:2461

Tender 1:2464

[jagged sentinel]

What are you fucking saying 💀

[old sedge]

And you guys know what? Here in Ph, Nissan's aircon is the best

Not sure in other countries

[calm vine]

@jagged sentinel it’s the callsign/number sign of the trucks in order

[old sedge]

From decades ago even until now, people here still love Calsonic the most

[jagged sentinel]

Ah

[calm vine]

Yeah I’m a firefighter 😂

[jagged sentinel]

Probably the same if not better in other countries

[old sedge]

Oh, nice!

[calm vine]

Look at how thicc she is

[jagged sentinel]

You're not a veteran but I thank you for your service nonetheless

[jagged sentinel]

Unless you are a veteran

[calm vine]

Would be very weird for a 16 year old to be a veteran

[old sedge]

Veteran or not, I find you honorable 🙂

[calm vine]

Thanks bro

[old sedge]

Well, even veterans gotta start as newbies or beginners, right? 😉

[calm vine]

I asked my boss if he could get one for us and he said no

He mean

[jagged sentinel]

Yeah but not at 16💀

This isn't WW2 anymore

[calm vine]

True that

[old sedge]

Fair enough

[calm vine]

Look in #archive-serious-discussions

I posted a control burn

[old sedge]

Oh, that reminds me

Is Nissan's partner is Mitsubishi or Renault?

Nvm, those 3 formed an alliance

Btw, another advantage of current gen Mitsubishi Montero Sport here is its aircon is Calsonic, like Nissan

Amateur question. When driving through a steep incline road(not off-road), would you set your drivetrain to 4Hi, 4Lo or just 2WD mode?

[calm vine]

Not sure

I don’t drive

I mean

[old sedge]

I've never driven a 4WD car

The SUV and pickup trucks I've driven are only 4x2

[calm vine]

I have my license i don’t have my cdl or commercial drivers license

[old sedge]

Ooooh

The reason why we don't have 4x4 is because we don't go off-road

[jagged sentinel]

Neither do most Americans
Then again some Americans do have to deal with snow

[old sedge]

The good news is Americans who live in the West Coast don't have to deal with snow

[jagged sentinel]

There are definitely places on the west coast that get snow

[old sedge]

I didn't know that

Since they say that a Ford Mustang will just get stuck or slide in snow, what if you equip it with snow terrain tires, still the same?

[jagged sentinel]

We salt the roads

To prevent or slow ice buildup

[old sedge]

Oh

[jagged sentinel]

Unfortunately that salt also greatly accelerates rust

Which is why some places in the US are better to buy used cars from them others

[old sedge]

Don't cars have rust proofing features?

[jagged sentinel]

Delays it, doesn't prevent it

[old sedge]

Oooh

Rusting is a bigger problem for steel rims than alloy rims

[proper elbow]

I live in one of the hottest states and we still do get snow up North

[old sedge]

Oh...

[proper elbow]

6000'+ elevation

[proper elbow]

2wd unless it's slippery

4 low should really never be used on paved surfaces. Low gears are fine to use in 4 high, but 4 low usually includes a locked center

Locked differential + tight turns on paved surfaces = major damage

[old sedge]

Ooooh

[jagged sentinel]

Assuming the tires even let you do sharp turns

[final robin]

Amc eagle

[old sedge]

I don't think we have that here

What I like about Subaru is all their cars have AWD drivetrains except the BRZ

Even their basic/entry models have AWD drivetrains

So if I wanna drive in places with snow weather, I need a Subaru.

[final robin]

Oo

[final robin]

I was chasing a bmw 3 series for a hour at night and was thinking all the time "nice honda"

💀

[vestal garnet]

[final robin]

[main cosmos]

https://www.carthrottle.com/post/the-1972bhp-ford-pro-electric-supervan-really-delivers/

Another ford super van

[dry sage]

But Electric.

Unless it starts making some super-loud sci-fi buzzing sounds, Imma sleep.

[dry sage]

?

Mine?

https://twitter.com/GuilleAlfonsin/status/1540300979194691586?s=20&t=kvIG1eBKRNmuAAajkYbB_Q

Guille G. Alfonsín (@GuilleAlfonsin)

Tres fotitos más del precioso #Porsche963 gracias al adelanto de @RacecarEngineer

Likes

177

Twitter · Jun 24, 2022, 11:49 AM

[heady swift]

gazoo livery

[dry sage]

I was thinking of this, ngl.

The BOSS pinstripes.

[heady swift]

ehh

prefered the grey and white lmp scheme

[dry sage]

Pic?

[main cosmos]

Just saw a video of it and it sounds like a freaking spaceship

[dry sage]

Ah yes, the Porsche Gazoo Racing.

[heady swift]

exactly

[final robin]

How the mighty have fallen

[proper elbow]

is that a fucking crossfire

🤢

oh a bentley

Looked like a terrible custom crossfire

[final robin]

💀

They're hispano-suizas

[proper elbow]

oh lol

I am blind

[final robin]

I wouldn't blame u tho the top one looks like a crappy kit car and the bottome doesn't have a badge

They were one of the few companies that were above rolls royce

[proper elbow]

yeah I just saw the shape of the wings on the badge in the first pic and assumed

[kind osprey]

Yea them and Duesenburg were like the ultimate pre WWII coach chassis'

[final robin]

True

There lacks a true ev cross country gt

Maybe we could have an ev duesenburg

Something like this but less offroady

[final robin]

Yess that

[proper elbow]

Phallus-mobile

[final robin]

I had a poster of a coupe version of that

Boy now this is a car

RR spectre seems to be a boring wraith substitute not ott enough

[kind osprey]

With that livery on it looks like the gta one

[final robin]

True xd

[final robin]

💀 💀

[hybrid charm]

What’s that

[final robin]

Hispano suiza j12 1933

[old sedge]

Random question: Do we guys need a super high beam mode for headlights?

[old sedge]

Hmmmmm, which would you guys prefer for city driving, a diesel 4x2 pickup like Nissan Navara and Toyota Hilux or Suzuki Jimny?

[dry sage]

Ok, what the fuck is that 4:3 aspect ratio car?

https://youtu.be/96UjqDWGVns

And why is it so fast?

[final robin]

It looks as if its compacted from the sides

[dry sage]

It's a kei hypercar.

[final robin]

💀

[final robin]

Oh u sketched the earlier one

Damn

[final robin]

Kei hypercar sounds made up
Like natural plastic or diet cake

[dull siren]

a kei car is a microcar

but that car is definitely not close to one

[hybrid charm]

Ok

[final robin]

Ik i learned to drive in an Indianized one

[dull siren]

we have plenty here in Malaysia too

[final robin]

Noice

[dry sage]

It was more of a joke. I just find it funny how small it is.

[final robin]

This car is wasted potential
They could've made it rear motor rwd like the original but naah
Ik they used the ice architecture but i don't think it was impossible

[dull siren]

road rockets also exists

remember power to weight ratio and small size

[uncut saddle]

I am

In love

[sage roost]

Looks retro

[old sedge]

Kind of looks like a group C race car

[lofty hornet]

😍😍😍

[heady swift]

You can def see it's a far more simple body in terms of aero

but nonetheless sexi

[final robin]

I really love the non mad max version of this the falcon xb gt
Really underrated muscle car

[lofty hornet]

Beauty

[final robin]

True people only care about mustangs from ford this was bigger, more comfortable and had some 300hp

[main cosmos]

only needs two miniguns on top of the hood and you are ready to go

[final robin]

[rich patio]

actually that reminds me more of kitt

even though thats a falcon xb yet kitt is a trans am but i guess its the color scheme

[weary trench]

Ford unfocus

[fresh gust]

Dodge rammed

https://i0.wp.com/glaubscollision.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/IMG_0985-rotated.jpg?fit=480%2C640&ssl=1

[old sedge]

I like the rear steel rims and damn, it got rammed

[kind osprey]

https://youtube.com/shorts/cRS2jEr7tdM?feature=share

[kind osprey]

Forza cars irl

Where did we go wrong

[heady swift]

nice

wish they kept the 2020 side-skirts from the gtr

[opal forum]

The almighty bitch scaring mobile

[final robin]

🤌

[atomic finch]

I say bye bye to this thing

My brother got a Lancer OZ Rally

[proper elbow]

Why'd you get rid of the miata

[final robin]

[old sedge]

Miata is still a beautiful car

[proper elbow]

Can't wait for my skid plates to arrive. Then I can go play on some rocks

[atomic finch]

Traded

Car no worky

My brother traded for a working 02 Lancer OZ Rally

[hybrid charm]

Sweet

[hybrid elbow]

i watched this before

it was hilarious lmao

[heady swift]

p[

[final robin]

Does this mean the lci will have slightly better grille

[atomic finch]

Looks 3d printed

30dollar grille

[final robin]

Aah well better than the one it replaces

[kind osprey]

Nah that looks fucking hidious

The golden era of bmw is gone

[final robin]

True

I think if it had vertical slats instead of the mesh it might be better

[atomic finch]

Ye

[proper elbow]

I like the grill shape but the mesh is definitely too busy/draws the eye too much, which is saying a lot given the wrap

[final robin]

True Hopefully they've lost sales because of the grille and they're doing something about it

[dry sage]

https://twitter.com/redbullracing/status/1541707983197011970?t=lF2YyVQ25TjoP7aWgHS3qA&s=19

Oracle Red Bull Racing (@redbullracing)

Introducing the RB17 👀 A new era of performance cars has arrived 🤘

Likes

3711

Retweets

349

▶ Play video

Twitter · Jun 28, 2022, 9:00 AM

[drifting sentinel]

this guy

[atomic finch]

I made that

[surreal saffron]

Is this the same as the Xanavi one?

[desert totem]

is that Oboma lol

[jagged sentinel]

Google photos is fucking stupid but the video quality isn't why this video exists

[old sedge]

Simple question

If a car wheelspins when climbing a low curb, is throttle misapplication a possible cause of it?

[atomic finch]

It resembles the build quality of the car

[final robin]

What do u think

I dont find it inoffensive tbh
Sure it looks like a mix of many cars but as a whole its okay

I wish it was lower and wider like the concept but hey its not as bad as the i4

[atomic finch]

I thought that was a Porsche lmfao

Looks almost identical

[vestal garnet]

NiCe PoRsChE

[final robin]

Yea

[atomic finch]

Eggselant Por Shuh

[vestal garnet]

[atomic finch]

[final robin]

Concept was way seskier

[jagged sentinel]

We shall see if there is any truth to that

[fresh gust]

I highly doubt a hyper car will have bad build quality but hey, it’s American. We can all expect the interior quality of a 1996 Chevy Cavalier

[atomic finch]

It looks like a Corvette C8

[kind osprey]

That looks nothing like a Corvette

and holy shit I didn't realize how good that sounds

you rarely get such a bassy classic sound out of a v8 anymore this thing sounds like something for the 70's

[kind osprey]

You want it to be a luxury car or something? What are you referring to

the cars fine

[kind osprey]

The front kinda resembles that old dodge concept with that headlight pattern, and the back just looks like something Porsche would post on their Instagram as a "cool car they drew that we will never make part 12"

[final robin]

True

Oldsmobile arora looked similar

[kind osprey]

As much as I love the Hennessey I like the ssc more the ssc is insane

[final robin]

I like the chiron over them all

Probably the only 250 mph+ car that is actually comfortable

The design still looks more modern than the competition even after so many years

[atomic finch]

Ford GT

It's so blurry

[heady swift]

damn

a gear knob from pure beskar

that'll show those pesky jedi's

[kind osprey]

That was a Hennessey f5

I didn't see a Ford gt anywhere

[atomic finch]

I said it looks like it

[kind osprey]

This thing is just pure sex I actually think it was a smart move to just use the LSx block

but it looks nothing like a ford gt

it looks even less like one than it does to a corvette

[atomic finch]

It's blurry

So that's why

[kind osprey]

the only corvette looking thing on that car is the side scoop angle I guess, but they are making like 24 of these so imagine someone pulling up with this at a car show

I hope to hear one of these in person soon

That is a prototype engine, not the final model

but it was a high quality picture

[final robin]

The chiron somehow feels more special to me there's the unique engine, the quality and luxury of elements, practical design...
The f5 has a yoke and is rwd

[atomic finch]

Zenvo

The Bizzare spoiler is very cool

[kind osprey]

The bugatti is trying to be both a luxury car and a fast hyper car, they've always been like Bentley or Aston where they possess a little bit of both rather than ever something completely raw

and it shows in the weight difference

[kind osprey]

Chiron's like 4,400 pounds, the f5 is just over 3,000

[final robin]

True and i like that about it

Hyper gt

None of that hyper aggressive aero kits, but clean elegant forms

[kind osprey]

Bugatti is that one company that reliably rolls out timeless looking stuff

With a lot of heritage behind it

[final robin]

Yes really

Even the veyron doesn't look too outdated

Eb110 was a bit of a miss tho

[kind osprey]

If I had hypercar car money a Bugatti would be my third choice. I just respect Pagani and Koenigsegg too much for their accomplishments to not go with one of them first

Both of their founders are amazing people I'd love to meet both of them one day

[atomic finch]

It looks like something a butler would drive

[final robin]

Not a huge pagani fan

[atomic finch]

I am

Those lights

[kind osprey]

[final robin]

The designer is cool and all but its 2 cars milked dozens of special editions

Love the 'base' huayra and zonda

[kind osprey]

Other than maybe actual 1960's le mans cars, Paganis are the closest things to being certified as actual art in Italy

I've never seen a design as timeless in modern history as the zonda

[final robin]

Zonda itself looks nice

But come on

[kind osprey]

As much as I love the veryon or an old ccx Koenigsegg, any person with a base understanding of cars could see they've become a bit dated

[final robin]

Give us a new car

[kind osprey]

That's beautiful but I'd probably go for a base one 2005-2008

[final robin]

Exactly

[kind osprey]

They would be the cheapest

That is the only reason

[final robin]

Also cleanest

[kind osprey]

Nah the Zonda Barchetta would be my first pick if money was not running out

A convertible with a roof scoop and all those all racecar elements

Pagani debuted in 99 but they have a spirit more classic than most supercar companies around it's amazing

There is no paint on this car, the best thing known to man is on it. Color Tinted carbon fiber

Completely semetrical and bookmatched

[final robin]

This looks way more gorgeous

[kind osprey]

They all look good, but I'd get a newer one. Only obstacles the price tag

[final robin]

Aah well i know its a barchetta but it really looks like the windscreen is cut off

[kind osprey]

That's the point, it's a speedster model

Nobodys driving it in the rain anyway lol

[final robin]

Even in clear weather its going to be hard

All the bugs and stuff hitting you at 200 mph

[kind osprey]

That's definitely a helmet car if you're going that fast in any speedster convertible

[final robin]

Yea true

[kind osprey]

It's a pagani I'd probably wear a full suit with a helmet regardless lol

[final robin]

That's why i like bugatti

You can still drive it outside

[kind osprey]

My second favorite zonda is a little less obstrusive, it has the ability of a soft top lol

But any convertible with a full roof scoop

Pure nut material

[final robin]

True

I remember reading about these in magazines and being wowed

[kind osprey]

Pagani paired up with one of my favorite shoe brands it's like a driving/casual shoe with a big patch of carbon fiber in the middle and the lace holders resemble the headlight mount shape

I'm so glad I was able to get them in time

[final robin]

But i now i just look at them and think "another rich f*ck's multi million track toy he's never going to drive"

[kind osprey]

Out of these 90's founded Hyper car brands, Koenigsegg is the engieer, and Pagani is the artist.

Gotta have both

[kind osprey]

People wonder why I want to be one of those rich fucks, for no other reason than to buy cars ngl

[jagged sentinel]

Here's a non-shit version of the video that doesn't shit itself when the thunder starts

[kind osprey]

I have a garage planed for pretty much every digit of wealth

Up to like 10 billion

[final robin]

I'd be something like jay leno but not so classic cars

[kind osprey]

Because after that you can just buy anything

[final robin]

I'd have a collection of 80s 90s and 00s gems

[jagged sentinel]

I still can't get over the sound of that F5

[kind osprey]

I love the classic cars, 60's lemans cars are my favorite that era of race car developed and influenced the cars we know today so much

[kind osprey]

Ikr it sounds like an old 427 guzzle without the carburetor issues xD

[final robin]

Not so expensive now but im sure they'll catch up
Stuff ranging from a clean na miata to a 550 maranello

[jagged sentinel]

I can't imagine what it sounds like at 8500 RPM

Which is its redline
Somehow

[kind osprey]

I think the 70's and 80' was the worst era when it comes to car styling. When shit started turning square dry and plastic. Exceptions to the obvious ones like the supercars and anything wacky or expensive that didn't subbumb to thag horrible trend

[final robin]

I assume it makes at least 400 hp at 2000 rpm

[kind osprey]

Mid to late 70's

[jagged sentinel]

8500 RPM out of an american cross-plane V8... Fucking sorcery

[jagged sentinel]

I believe max torque (which is around 1200 lb-ft iirc) is at I think 5000

[final robin]

Post gas crisis was a dark period
Yea but after say 85 they started making some nice cars

[jagged sentinel]

It took us like 40 years to finally get acceptable power numbers after '73

[final robin]

Bro that's unsettling
Touch the throttle and you go faster than a mustang

[kind osprey]

Caddilac "engineers" making a 6.2 liter v8 put of 176hp

Lmao

[final robin]

🗿

[jagged sentinel]

Touch the throttle with the TC off and you're just fucking dead lol

It's amazing how the TC system doesn't just detonate after a full-bore start

1800 horsepower...

[final robin]

I drove the f5 in a mobile game and even then i grew chest hairs💀

[jagged sentinel]

To the rear wheels...

[heady swift]

wonder what the track performance is like

it's typically not very good with these hypercars

[jagged sentinel]

In a car that weighs as much as a feather, as far as American cars are concerned

[kind osprey]

Guys calm down the base driving setting for the car is ONLY 1500 horsepower so it's safe and easy 😉

[jagged sentinel]

They're eventually going to come out with a more corner-focused version

With a rear wing and more aero bits and stuff

[final robin]

Ik this is why I'd rather take a chiron im no Hamilton

[jagged sentinel]

To be honest though I think the version we're getting here soon is the better one

[heady swift]

yeah, but aero isn't fixing an inefficient body

[jagged sentinel]

Yeah but it helps

Lmao

[kind osprey]

How's it inefficient

[heady swift]

for track performance

[kind osprey]

The car has sufficient downforce for most settings, it's all under the car to let the top be slippery enough to hit the tops speeds without active aero and other drag and weight increasing components

[heady swift]

an insanely big rear-engine with rwd that weighs a lot, the body itself is very smooth and typical for high speeds, but doesn't allow proper air travel for cornering