transportation

[sage roost]

VSC

[uncut saddle]

Didn't expect him to make it out

gg Yuki

Vettel what were you thinking?

[dry sage]

VSC could be good.

Does Max still have his hards?

[uncut saddle]

Probably?

[dry sage]

It's risky tbf.

Too early.

Actually, nah.

Forget what I thought. Max shouldn't pit.

[ashen carbon]

Leclerc overtook Sainz offtrack. Ferrari is all too happy and FIA doesn't bother ruining their fun.

[ocean rock]

Now he will

Smokey theyre using your chat for pit strat

[uncut saddle]

VSC ending

[ocean rock]

[main cosmos]

[uncut saddle]

Green flag

How long can Max keep Lewis out of DRS distance

That's the deciding factor

[twin fiber]

30 laps

[main cosmos]

And then they crash each other

[uncut saddle]

That would be cool ngl

[mint plank]

I mean he gains time every lap on the dirty air corner @uncut saddle

[ashen carbon]

Lewis would need to seriously fuck up to not win this one

.... or if someone else crash and invalidate what I just said

[uncut saddle]

Lewis fastest lap????

And DRS distance

My god Alonso spin

CHAOS

He good tho

Vettel having issues

[frank fox]

Tsunoda penalty

[uncut saddle]

Piss off

[sage roost]

oh no, anyway

[ashen carbon]

Vettel's car falling apart

[sage roost]

what is it with yuki and hitting Astons

[uncut saddle]

Keeping up with an RB on mediums has to be a huge strain on the tires tho

[mint plank]

Yup

Both might have to pit

[ashen carbon]

tbh the bits of Vettel's AM on the track looks even more dangerous than the damaged barrier from Mick's crash

[sage roost]

Kimi and seb

[uncut saddle]

Seb really not having it today

[mint plank]

How many more bodies is this track gonna claim

[sage roost]

Another VSC huh

[mint plank]

FIA gonna review the fuck out of new design

[uncut saddle]

Quick lil' VSC

[vocal tide]

Singapore 2017 vibes

but 2 red flags

[mint plank]

Fuck the front two. Behind is where the action is

[uncut saddle]

Lot of debris on track still

Incoming yellow flag

[ashen carbon]

Seriously why the fuck would they green flag it like this

[sage roost]

Yet another VSC

wow

[mint plank]

Ham puncture 🙏

[uncut saddle]

Pandemonium

[dry sage]

VSC AGAIN

[mint plank]

Bedlum

[dry sage]

I swear Max is living the Hamilton experience.

[uncut saddle]

There's too much debris for a VSC

[dry sage]

VSC saving his win

[ashen carbon]

The thing is, the previous VSC shouldn't have ended

[uncut saddle]

What the fuck are they doing

[dry sage]

Agreed.

I'm sensing a puncture if they plan to keep Lewis out.

Max is prolly gonna pit around Lap 37.

[ashen carbon]

What are they even doing VSC like this for

[uncut saddle]

Where's the safety car ffs

There's so much debris

[ashen carbon]

It isn't safe to drive, and it isn't safe for the marshals to be out on track

[mint plank]

Red flag or SC. JFC Hurry up and decide

[uncut saddle]

Just red flag it

[sage roost]

if there’s a safety car RB could get a free pitstop to try and attack lewis

[ashen carbon]

At the very least a real SC

[uncut saddle]

At least it's not a snoozefest!

Did... did we just get another Kimi tire warming shot???

And Lewis is back on Max's ass

[sage roost]

Thanks kimi

[mint plank]

Fucking kimi

[uncut saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/kimi-thumbs-up-peukku-ferrari-world-champion-gif-12515080

[sage roost]

https://tenor.com/view/kimi-räikkönen-f1-dab-gif-14644395

[uncut saddle]

VSC ending

[kind osprey]

God himself dabbed

That one went harder than bill gates’

https://tenor.com/view/bill-gates-dab-gatesdab-billgatesdab-gif-12977596

[uncut saddle]

Ngl Bill's dab is peak

The form

Immaculate

[kind osprey]

🥵

[uncut saddle]

Arms perfectly straight

No room for error

[ashen carbon]

Vettel's luck this race

[uncut saddle]

Calculated

Yea Seb is having a rough time

[sage roost]

Vettel’s luck this season

[uncut saddle]

Ocon still 3

I swear Ocon always manages to benefit from these situations the most

[sage roost]

Danny ric is close to him

2 seconds, but still close

[uncut saddle]

More debris on track

[sage roost]

Oh lmao, there’s still debris

[uncut saddle]

SC incoming

Fucking hell

[ashen carbon]

lol debris again

Whose is that

[uncut saddle]

No clue

[sage roost]

Yet another VSC

Fucking hell

[uncut saddle]

It's Vettel's

VSC ending

WHAT IS HAPPENING

[sage roost]

Oh god

Lewis has drs

[uncut saddle]

Fuck me

[full sail]

lmao

[uncut saddle]

I swear if this is going to be investigated

[vocal tide]

What happened?

[uncut saddle]

Noted

[uncut saddle]

Lewis tried to overtake, Max defended

Both went off track

[sage roost]

And ran off track

[uncut saddle]

Both still on

[sage roost]

Nah only max

[frank fox]

Crash

[main cosmos]

Ah shit here we go again

[frank fox]

Hamilton damage

[sage roost]

WHAT THE FUCK

[frank fox]

Max went to give position back

[uncut saddle]

WHAT

[frank fox]

and he went into the back of him

[sage roost]

wudhhqydywhcu wufhwhhduwbduwh

[uncut saddle]

WHAT IS THIS BULLSHIT

OH MY GOD

[vocal tide]

did they both crash?

[uncut saddle]

HOLY SHIT

[ashen carbon]

lol what happened

[frank fox]

Hamilton into the back of Verstappen

[vocal tide]

LOL

[frank fox]

when Ver was trying to give position back

[dry sage]

WHAT THE FUCK

EXCUSE ME

[uncut saddle]

Max wanted to give the position back, Ham didn't know and ran into him

[vocal tide]

Hilarious

[mint plank]

YOOOO

[uncut saddle]

This is some bullshit

[mint plank]

BULLSHIT

[frank fox]

Investigation

[ashen carbon]

lol WTF is this

[dry sage]

MAX PLS

[frank fox]

Toto throwing his headphones

[uncut saddle]

"He just brake tested me"

[full sail]

TOTO

[uncut saddle]

Shut the fuck up Lewis

Jesus christ

[mint plank]

TOTO MAD

[full sail]

bro

[vocal tide]

That's on Lewis

and Max

[full sail]

lewis is fuckin dumb or what

[ashen carbon]

Ehhhhhhhhh

[uncut saddle]

Just shut the fuck up for once

[twin fiber]

You guys are ahead none of u make sense on my screen...

[dry sage]

Holy shit Toto

[uncut saddle]

Nothing dangerous driving my guy

You slowed down too

[mint plank]

Toto is going to fry Louis

[dry sage]

Lewis front wing is fucked tho

[vocal tide]

Damn, toto's expression is gold

[uncut saddle]

I swear if Max gets a penalty for this

[dry sage]

So regardless if Max gets a penalty or not , he has a chance.

[ashen carbon]

Why isn't Max giving the place back now

[mint plank]

HAM STOP CRYING YOU BITCH. HE DIDNT BRAKE CHECK YOU

[vocal tide]

Lewis had time to react the f

[uncut saddle]

A 7 times world champion should not behave like this

Incredibly sad

[ashen carbon]

It's a mess

[uncut saddle]

Would you really want to win like this

[vocal tide]

If Championship gets decided like this

[frank fox]

Max has been told to give position back

[vocal tide]

then it's kinda shit

[mint plank]

That face

[uncut saddle]

LMAO CHAOS

[full sail]

https://tenor.com/view/104-gif-19958882

[uncut saddle]

Mercedes big mad at FIA

[full sail]

look he brake checked me

[ashen carbon]

I don't think either of them really did anything wrong. Max slowed down to give the place back, and I really doubt Lewis was given proper warning

[uncut saddle]

Dangerous driving!

[vocal tide]

The salt is so nice

[kind osprey]

This freakout rage is brought to you buy Taiwan Manufacturing Company

[uncut saddle]

Definitely with you

[mint plank]

[uncut saddle]

The reaction is just kinda pathetic

[ashen carbon]

The thing is though, Max should slow the fuck down and give the place back

[full sail]

he did?

[uncut saddle]

God the replay looks mad goofy

[full sail]

lewis just didnt pass

[ashen carbon]

No, after the crash

[full sail]

ah

[dry sage]

Honestly? No. But I feel like that's on the FIA.

[full sail]

he did give it now

WHAT

[dry sage]

If they told RB to let Lewis pass.

[frank fox]

Hamilton has passed now

[full sail]

LMAOOOOO

[dry sage]

And Lewis didn't know.

[full sail]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[frank fox]

verstappen

[uncut saddle]

Lewis just hesitated too long and drove into him

[frank fox]

back up

[full sail]

I CANTTTTTTTTT

[dry sage]

Max is gonna take it back.

[frank fox]

5 second penalty for Verstappen

I think

[uncut saddle]

Oh this is gold

[frank fox]

ver 5 second penalty

[full sail]

5 sec maxpenalty

[vocal tide]

Does that even matter

[uncut saddle]

FOR WHAT

[vocal tide]

exactly

[frank fox]

Leaving the track and gaining an advantage

[ashen carbon]

What

[uncut saddle]

WHEN?

Yo what the fuck

[frank fox]

uh not sure

[ashen carbon]

Uhhhh the first DRS overtake attempt?

[frank fox]

The incident is going to be investigated after the race too

[uncut saddle]

He got a penalty for the incident he already had to give the position back for

[sage roost]

Canada 2019 all over again

[vocal tide]

It's so numb

[uncut saddle]

?????

[mint plank]

WTF

[full sail]

LEAVING THE TRACK AND GAINING AN ADVANTAGE

[dry sage]

5s fuck

[full sail]

[mint plank]

FUCK

BULLSHIT

[uncut saddle]

I'm just confused at this point

[frank fox]

Lewis P1

[dry sage]

...

[mint plank]

GENUINE BULLSHIT

[dry sage]

Max channeling his inner Schumacher

[vocal tide]

OK, the reasoning is buillshit

[uncut saddle]

This is some bullshit of the highest degree

[full sail]

actually fucking bullshit

[ashen carbon]

What is this BS

This is utter garbage

[uncut saddle]

Wouldn't be surprised to see max just torpedo his way into Lewis's rear

[full sail]

this is the first time

[mint plank]

P l e a s e

[full sail]

i feel cheated out of this fucking championship

[sage roost]

Reason is bullshit

[uncut saddle]

Yea this is a bullshit decision

[mint plank]

Actually gonna be riots over this

[uncut saddle]

Max might as well just pit for softs now

[full sail]

actual mafia moment

[frank fox]

Ver almost 3 seconds behind now

[mint plank]

Fucking bullshit

[uncut saddle]

Mercedes FIA radio

That's the wrong team ffs

Oh wait

This is good

[frank fox]

Warning I believe

[uncut saddle]

Not good enough tho

[full sail]

i want to see the fucking stewards reasoning

[frank fox]

Ver 4 seconds behind

[uncut saddle]

Waiting for that Red Bull/FIA radio

[mint plank]

Genuinely. Give us a fucking report on it

[ashen carbon]

Ah yes, 5s penalty to Max, "pls dont do this again pretty pls" to Lewis

[frank fox]

Vettel is out

[ashen carbon]

I'd say bullshit but I said that way too many times today

[uncut saddle]

Ocon driving too fast so Max can't pit

[ashen carbon]

Shut up Crofty

[dry sage]

Max gonna pit.

[uncut saddle]

He can't tho

[dry sage]

Lewis puncture or wing loss pls

He can.

Wait.

[ashen carbon]

Nah, he can't

[dry sage]

Right he can't.

[uncut saddle]

He still has that penalty

[ashen carbon]

Ocon is too close considering the 5s penalty

[mint plank]

Lewis genuinely can your engine just burst into flames

[sage roost]

I hope the front wing falls apart

[mint plank]

Please

[uncut saddle]

I hope Lewis pulls the same thing as Max in Q3

Just a quick wall tap

Nothing fancy

[sage roost]

I hope Lewis a does a seb from Germany 2018

[uncut saddle]

Just enough to have Max pass him

[mint plank]

How the fuck is ham 6s ahead with dead wing

[frank fox]

7 now

[ashen carbon]

Because Max isn't trying

[mint plank]

Grosjen more like

[ashen carbon]

Max is losing time to Ocon. That's how slow he's going rn.

[uncut saddle]

#blessed🙏

[mint plank]

https://tenor.com/view/die-gif-8468069

[gloomy helm]

That's what less fuel does

[full sail]

lewis perform 2016 Malaysian GP please

[sage roost]

Sector 1: ocon?

Wtf?

[full sail]

ocon fastest lap

please

[mint plank]

Inb4 ham puncture from his own wing

[ashen carbon]

Would be fun if Ocon takes the fastest lap lmao

[uncut saddle]

That would be amazing

[full sail]

hey

atleast they are equal in points

abu will be fun

[uncut saddle]

Yea it's amazing

Just not like this

[vocal tide]

Did HAM get fastest lap back?

[full sail]

yeah

[uncut saddle]

Of course!

[full sail]

fucking hell lewis

fuck off

[mint plank]

Abu will be crazy

[full sail]

fucking show us lewis and not ocon and bottas

[ashen carbon]

MAFIA rears its ugly head again, who would've thought 💤

[mint plank]

Inb4 stewards bash ham and give Max p1

[full sail]

actual piece of shit race

[ashen carbon]

Wow, literally who cares about Lewis driving on his own in P1

[frank fox]

Ham P1

[mint plank]

Amen

[vocal tide]

Shit race

[ashen carbon]

What a farce

[uncut saddle]

Sad

[vocal tide]

THis is worse than Belgium 2021

[mint plank]

Literally no one cares. Ham cruises to the line. Woo fucking hoo

[frank fox]

Bottas P3

[full sail]

this track can explode and i wouldnt care

[sage roost]

Bottas got the podium

God fucking damnit

[uncut saddle]

Holy fuck

[ashen carbon]

Shit race. Someone please fire rockets.

[uncut saddle]

@fathom oriole

We need you

[mint plank]

@fathom oriole bomb the track

[dry sage]

I hope the FIA shuts the fuck up.

So... Yas Marina...

[uncut saddle]

Ocon big mad

[dry sage]

That's an AMG track right?

[vocal tide]

Verstappen won last year

[uncut saddle]

Max cruised to victory last year

Without issue

[vocal tide]

And changes too

[ashen carbon]

Track layout a bit different this year

[full sail]

fucking "get in there lewis" not deserved

im salty and i dont give a shit about both teams

[mint plank]

Fuck lewis

[ashen carbon]

What a farce, not worth watching post-race.

[vocal tide]

Do watch post race

to see who VER and HAM react

It WILL be thorny

[ashen carbon]

I highly doubt it will be anything but the usual PR-friendly interview answers

[uncut saddle]

This shouldn't be the end of this

[sage roost]

Congrats Lewis on that 8th title

[mint plank]

Whatever. Night all

[uncut saddle]

We still have an ongoing investigation

[full sail]

im waiting for that reasoning

[dry sage]

Ok, but Abu Dhabi... who'd have the edge there?

AMG or RB?

[uncut saddle]

Probably AMG

[ashen carbon]

AMG because MAFIA

[dry sage]

I swear, they had such a good season.

If the FIA fucks it up now...

[ashen carbon]

They can find endless bullshit and just hand 5s penalty to RB like candy

[uncut saddle]

I really don't understand where that penalty came from

I don't even care about the rest

[ashen carbon]

Congrats, I don't think even Merc does

[uncut saddle]

FIA probably doesn't even know

[full sail]

blow up the track omar

[uncut saddle]

Just spun the Wheel of Penalties and it landed on 5s

[full sail]

that fucking penalty was bs

ham got that shit handed out to him

[sage roost]

Onto yas marina I guess

[main cosmos]

How the fuck is max driver of the day

Should of been ocon

[full sail]

yeah

lmao

[uncut saddle]

We got the final race battle we wanted tho

[vocal tide]

Level on points

are you happy?

[ashen carbon]

Sounds like a protest vote

[full sail]

nobody wanted bullshit to get this

[uncut saddle]

Really crowd?

[full sail]

if it was a fair battle with lewis winning i wouldve fucking been exited

now im just fucking angry

cause that shit shouldnt have happened

[uncut saddle]

Booing... absolutely pathetic crowd

[full sail]

booing who?

[vocal tide]

Booing who?

[uncut saddle]

Dunno

But booing in general just makes you less of a human

[vocal tide]

Oh, booed Max first

[ashen carbon]

Now, I think the track is fine. Plenty of drama potential and generally punishes people for taking stupid unnecessary risks (yes, including Max in Q3).

But the race itself is a complete shitshow.

[full sail]

just boo everyone

the track is way to fucking dangerous tho

[sage roost]

Yes

[full sail]

shit can get bad quick

[main cosmos]

Including max in every bit of the race

[ashen carbon]

What

[sage roost]

Boo ocon as well for driving a tractor

[full sail]

what

[uncut saddle]

What

[ashen carbon]

Seriously, what

[full sail]

honestly, what

[main cosmos]

honestly, what

[uncut saddle]

In all fairness, what

[ashen carbon]

The fuck are you talking about

[full sail]

explain

[vocal tide]

Did they boo lewis?

[full sail]

probably

[uncut saddle]

Mostly cheering

[ashen carbon]

According to Omar, booing for all the wrong reasons, but I'm past caring and won't look the gift horse in the mouth

[vocal tide]

[uncut saddle]

From what I've heard

[vocal tide]

LOL

They Booed hamilton

and some cheered

50/50

[full sail]

im fucking done with this, doubt i care anymore about this season

thrown away by 1 shite decision

[dry sage]

So when is Yas Marina?

1 or 2 weeks?

[sage roost]

Next week

[uncut saddle]

Meet

[sage roost]

shut

[ashen carbon]

Now don't be stupid. It's not one decision.

We enjoyed most of the season despite the FIA.

[dry sage]

Max, I pray for you.

[sage roost]

you didn’t see anything

[full sail]

this decision fucked it badly for me

[sage roost]

Max to pull a Prost???????

[dry sage]

If he pulls a wonder in Abu Dhabi, I will cry tears of joy.

[full sail]

i found most of the others ok

[ashen carbon]

Would probably get a Schumacher WDC DSQ if he tries that

[sage roost]

He just doesn’t need to make it look obvious

If Lewis wins the WDC I use the W12 as my PFP

[uncut saddle]

Bet

[sage roost]

So

[uncut saddle]

Well this was a letdown

[uncut saddle]

[ashen carbon]

Better get the best W12 pic you can think of now

[sage roost]

Yeah still need to find a better one

[ashen carbon]

Try it in silver, maybe

[sage roost]

Akchualy that’s the W11 livery in silver

[dry sage]

We're fucked.

[sage roost]

For fucks sake

[dry sage]

He's gonna get a 10-grid penalty.

Calling it now.

[full sail]

20 grid penalty

last place

fuck you

[dry sage]

Well, Max can try a new engine.

Which means he has a chance

But that's like some hollywood final fight bs.

[full sail]

which incident is this

cause i got no clue lmao

[main cosmos]

he did a lot of them

which one is it

[full sail]

the """"brake check""""?

[dry sage]

Probably the overtake after letting him pass.

[sage roost]

Last to first challenge against 19 other F1 drivers around yas marina™️

Jarno opmeer video

[dry sage]

Max going Ultra Instinct on Yas Marina.

Imagine the fucking wonder.

[full sail]

that would be fucking insane

[main cosmos]

Mercedes wet dreams

[uncut saddle]

[sage roost]

[uncut saddle]

Max just fuels his car with rage and gains 50hp

[full sail]

rage and cocaine

[main cosmos]

redbull needs to make a phone call

[full sail]

we just go to a diff track completely

[sage roost]

Max to run the Ferrari engine from 2019

[full sail]

give max a merc

[sage roost]

iirc in Mexico that engine hit 360 km/h

[full sail]

just with rb colors

[sage roost]

Crazy stuff

[dry sage]

You sure?

S2 is deffo AMG

S1 and S3 could be RB

[sage roost]

Remember

max got pole here last year

[main cosmos]

3 gigantic DRS zones

[sage roost]

But track layout is different so

[dry sage]

And Lewis 2020 was OP.

[main cosmos]

max is still on an old power unit

right?

[uncut saddle]

Ye

[full sail]

masi can only press so many buttons

hes a real multi tasker

my favorite fucking line this race

[vocal tide]

https://twitter.com/ChrisMedlandF1/status/1467588852168765451?s=20

Chris Medland (@ChrisMedlandF1)

Lewis and Max to report to the stewards at 23:40 local time so in 25 minutes #F1 #SaudiArabianGP

Likes

125

Twitter · Dec 5, 2021, 8:17 PM

[dry sage]

Ohfuckohfuckohfuck

[sage roost]

Unrelated note

Kimi’s final race would be his 350th

[dry sage]

Nice.

But fuck, I hope the FIA lets both go.

They must not fuck this championship up.

[full sail]

boxing match to decide who gets a penalty

lewis vs max

toto and horner as tag team

[sage roost]

DSQ both

Final order is BOT-OCO-RIC

[dry sage]

Wait DSQ for Jeddah or Abu Dhabi?

[sage roost]

Jeddah

[dry sage]

Hm.

[vocal tide]

Calm the fuck down

they still haven't gone to the stewards yet

[dry sage]

That would mean Lewis is gonna push to win.

[sage roost]

I am calm

Just joking around smh

[vocal tide]

And both DSQ means advantage max

[dry sage]

I'm anything but calm.

[dry sage]

Oh no. Knowing Lewis?

[vocal tide]

Everyone is on the edge of their seats

[sage roost]

well I already accepted Lewis winning the WDC so

[vocal tide]

ofc you can't never discount Lewis

[full sail]

guys lets give michael the benefit of the doubt

[vocal tide]

Sassy Masi to the rescue

[full sail]

he can only press so many buttons!

[ashen carbon]

The benefit of the doubt would be assuming he's intellectually challenged

[dry sage]

If Masi is around for 2022, we're fucked.

[full sail]

geniunly why the fuck arent there more people relaying shit like if the driver n front is letting you pass

[main cosmos]

Ham didn't know

That's the issue

[full sail]

like just direct comunication from a fia dude to the driver

[main cosmos]

That would be good

[full sail]

that seems like such an easy fix to this "x driver didnt know" give every driver instant info about penalties and shit and not through their mechanic

[main cosmos]

Thing is, drive and mechanic are communicating throughout the race
The mechanic knows when to feed his driver with info and such

To avoid distraction and all

[full sail]

i mean

you can pass a driver sounds like something which the driver should know instantly

[uncut saddle]

Lewis and Max to stewards in 15 minutes

[full sail]

having to send the info through a third party sounds inneficient and bound to get shit like what happened here

[sage roost]

Imagine the scenes if max and Lewis got paired up for the press conference in Abu Dhabi

[sage roost]

fuck this shit I’m out

[dry sage]

FYI, conference starting without Lewis.

Max is already back.

Lewis is back.

[twin fiber]

Idk why I got scared after seeing Toto's reaction

[vocal tide]

https://twitter.com/ChrisMedlandF1/status/1467624445338689541

Chris Medland (@ChrisMedlandF1)

DECISION: 10 second time penalty for Verstappen for causing a collision. Stays P2. #F1 #SaudiArabianGP

Twitter · Dec 5, 2021, 10:38 PM

[uncut saddle]

I'm fucking done

Glad it's basically a symbolic penalty

But still

Piss off

[main cosmos]

What does stays p2 mean?

[vocal tide]

Bottas was 11s off

[uncut saddle]

Beat me to it

[vocal tide]

so VER stays P2

Verstappen Braked

2.4G

[main cosmos]

What is the point of the penalty then lmao

[uncut saddle]

Had to give him something

As I said

Mostly symbolic

[vocal tide]

FIA is very scared of Red Bull and Mercedes

Masi looked like a headless chicken

[uncut saddle]

"Hey look, this was wrong and we noticed it was wrong. All good now!!"

Still glad it affects nothing

Next week is going to be interesting

Shame I won't be able to see it

[eternal silo]

Yea

[sage roost]

Gentlemen, a short view back to the past

4 years ago, Sebastian vettel told us “He brake tested me!”

4 years later, loois told us “max just brake tested me!”

is formula 1 driving too complicated, with drivers brake testing each other? Are they too much under effort, under pressure? What are your wishes for the future concerning the stewards? Less penalties, more? Or less and more fighting on track?

[dry sage]

Future concerning the stewards? Have actual fucking (former) race drivers in the team and not some fuckface like Michael Masi.

[sage roost]

Well… Luizzi is a steward and was a former driver so…

[dry sage]

Yeah, okay. That's one.

[ocean rock]

Jesus fuck.

Ah yes, lets spit straight on the face of someone Whiting very much trust.

[hybrid charm]

viper

[ocean rock]

viper

[sage roost]

Inb4 max uses a special helmet for Abu Dhabi that has “if you don’t go for a gap that exists…” written on it

[winter rock]

why does it look like dodge viper

[main cosmos]

Because

It's

[sage roost]

The color and the stripes mislead you

[winter rock]

yeah,i hate the viper,its like death on wheels

[blissful lagoon]

Isn't that the fun part

[heady swift]

eh

[kind osprey]

I didn’t know Dodge ramped up a rotary division, they are such an innovative company

[jagged sentinel]

Older ones

Also yeah that's part of its charm

[hybrid charm]

for the japanese market, its rare to see american cars

they appreciate cars like the viper like we appreciate the r34 gtr

[kind osprey]

It’s death on wheels for people who don’t know how to drive anything other than their mothers crossover. If you get a feel for something without traction and stability control you become the traction and stability control

And in the end it does feel more fun that way, rwd with no room for error, it makes driving it a fun accomplishment

If I had to pick a viper I’d go newer just because it has a higher resale value but I would enjoy any years of the models

[hybrid charm]

in a way its the purest form of driving machine

[kind osprey]

And in return you save a lot of weight

[hybrid charm]

yeah

[jagged sentinel]

It's also safer and has creature comforts

[kind osprey]

Pure driving cars other than the viper are probably like the Bmw z8, Mclaren f1, Carrera gt, Honda s2000

Not in any order of good or bad

But just overall fun things

[hybrid charm]

i don't understand why people hate on the z8

granted, it isn't the easiest car to drive

[jagged sentinel]

Because BMW

[jagged sentinel]

Neither is the viper
Or the Carrera GT

[kind osprey]

Anyone who buys a viper for creature comfort buys McDonald’s diet coke and tells the lady at the register “I’m on a diet”

[jagged sentinel]

Touché

[kind osprey]

Who’s hating on the z8 we need to visit them

And um

[redacted]

[hybrid charm]

auto journalists (ofc, most of them talk bullshit) but they state that it drives like a "boat"

[jagged sentinel]

Would you rather have a new viper with AC, glass windows, a trunk, a solid roof, traction control, safety
Or a 1st-gen viper with vinyl windows, no roof, no assists

[kind osprey]

The z8 is like the purest 1950’s remake I’ve ever seen auto journalist can’t distinguish it from a pt cruiser though lmao

[hybrid charm]

that's true

it reencompasses the beauty of the bmw 507

[kind osprey]

Shit I’m a dumb dumb I forgot to add the nsx to that little list of crazy fun cars

[hybrid charm]

which is probably one of the prettiest german cars ever made, dare i say

[jagged sentinel]

The creature comforts and assists are there to make the car better everywhere else except the track

[kind osprey]

The nsx is like the closest i’d ever get to owning a Mclaren f1

[jagged sentinel]

Would you classify the Senna as a driver's car?

[kind osprey]

It definitely isn’t much of a luxury tourer so I’d probably just call it a monster that people take out once a year to make sure the battery ain’t dead

xD

[hybrid charm]

soon enough it'll probably be worth about as much as an f1

[jagged sentinel]

I mean it doesn't even have AC...

[kind osprey]

They made too many of them for that to ever happen, I could see super rare version like those roof scoop ones go for maybe half a mil up to seven figures one day in the future

[hybrid charm]

the nsx-r gt is expensive, yeah

[kind osprey]

Is it an option or do they all come with the I hate Florida option

The 765lt had the option of no air conditioning so I hope the senna has it as an option

I like raw cars but if it is a closed cabin it’ll get too hot too quick, or the opposite where something with an open roof will have seats as hot as Venus

Hot ass leather seats damn I don’t miss that

[jagged sentinel]

You have to ask for it specifically

Apparently it's "free"

[heady swift]

old or new gen?

[kind osprey]

Yea that makes sense, they have it removed as the default but I’d out it on idc about weight savings if my cabin’s gonna be 50c

[kind osprey]

We’re talking about the Honda one 1992-2005ish

[heady swift]

ah ok

[hybrid charm]

na1 and na2?

[kind osprey]

I like the first one

And it’s cheaper

[heady swift]

we don't have acura here since it's just an american thing

[heady swift]

still expensive

but not nearly as overpriced as the current nsx

[kind osprey]

Yea like $60-70k still

[jagged sentinel]

But I think McLaren want you to spec it out as a track car all-the-way, you have to ask/pay extra for all the creature comforts like AC, backup cameras, speakers, etc

[kind osprey]

Resale is worse than the streetwear market

Everything fun is gone now

Even is300’s got more expensive

[heady swift]

I mean you don't need AC on a track car, but the trip between track and home will be a death sentence

[jagged sentinel]

Right

[heady swift]

unless you have a carrier

which is extremely irritating to work with

[hybrid charm]

oh, are those the ones that come with the 2j from factory

i'm more familiar with the altezza

[kind osprey]

Backup cameras are a federal mandate but I wonder if they get away with it because they only made like 100 sennas

[jagged sentinel]

🤡 if I were going to buy one, I'd get AC because yeah you might not need AC on the track, but for everywhere else it's gonna be a godsend🤡

[main cosmos]

That's extra 20kg

[kind osprey]

Yea the 2jz-ge it’s not as internally string as a gte and doesn’t have a turbo stovk

You can throw one on with a bit of work though

[hybrid charm]

ah right

[kind osprey]

An is300 would be good for like 300-600 hp

Any higher than that makes no sense

[jagged sentinel]

Whatever, you'd buy that sort of car to enjoy it anyway, and enjoyment is hampered a bit when you're uncomfortably hot and sweating your ass off

Speakers are less important; I could just bring a Bluetooth speaker in and use that

[kind osprey]

Half of the sennas have only touch a track once or twice, maybe even never

[jagged sentinel]

Right

[kind osprey]

Yea the senna doesn’t need a radio that’s a bit extra for that car

[jagged sentinel]

But that's what they're built for, AC or not

[heady swift]

tbh +400 hp doesn't make sense unless you're doing competitive racing

or at least amateur

[kind osprey]

I love audio so I’d have a radio in anything I’m driving on the street more than a track

[hybrid charm]

that's true

[jagged sentinel]

Yeah

But a Senna probably won't make a great road car

[heady swift]

if you can afford a senna, you'd probably have an entire fleet of road cars

[jagged sentinel]

And you could probably afford a vehicle to transport it

[kind osprey]

If I get the one I really want the most I’d pump it up to is maybe 350-400 at most because I’m mainly on the road and you can’t enjoy 600hp on a public street without being a dick to others around you.

[hybrid charm]

600hp is what the old gt3-spec altezza's had

[jagged sentinel]

Anything above 500 is too much for daily use imo

Maybe for trucks I'd let 500 slide but

[kind osprey]

Depends on the car, weight, shape, tires, suspension, well everything

[sage roost]

300 is the sweet spot Imo

not too underpowered, or too powerful

[kind osprey]

A urus is a great daily car with more than 500hp

[jagged sentinel]

If it's something like a Corvette or other sports car

[kind osprey]

But out 500 in something like a camry and nope

[heady swift]

it pains me to see that people upgrade their cars to 600+, without remotely improving the chassis or suspension aside from some ali express fake carbon wingtips

[kind osprey]

Yea that’s a death sentence

[jagged sentinel]

Says the guy whose dream daily is a Cadillac CTS-V

[heady swift]

even if you only drive on high ways, you still need to strengthen your chassis

[jagged sentinel]

autocorrect

[kind osprey]

For me personally I like brakes and find the way they work very satisfying

[jagged sentinel]

Yes, brakes are quite nice

[heady swift]

especially the carbon ceramic ones that are louder than the car itself

[kind osprey]

So the first two non cosmetic things will be suspension, then brakes

After then it’ll get the power

[jagged sentinel]

If I were to upgrade an engine, forced induction would probably be the last thing I do

[heady swift]

combine suspension with chassis strengthening, your car will twist and pull if you drive it around a track

[jagged sentinel]

Start with the parts that get the most heat, then just overbuild everything else from there

[kind osprey]

I would break the NA streak of a car as a last resort but I probably won’t need to unless the engine is asking for it

[heady swift]

you also need to strengthen your engine bay anyway if you're upgrading a regular car

[kind osprey]

Like some cars can easily handle good boost

Some not so much

[jagged sentinel]

I'd build an engine that makes 500 but is capable of like 800 or 900

So I know that the engine probably won't overpower itself and explode

[kind osprey]

Yea every fanboy thinks you can have a 1000+ horsepower supra using stock internals

https://tenor.com/view/gru-despicable-me-explode-gif-18746054

[heady swift]

I'd honestly just slap some r4/5/n parts on a lancer, since it's for some reason legal

[jagged sentinel]

700 maybe on stock internals

[heady swift]

and use it once every aeon

since I'll need chiropracty in between rides

[kind osprey]

It costs about $100,000 at minimum in upgrades to make a supra do those crazy ass numbers

1800hp stock amiright

[jagged sentinel]

Yeah, they always leave out the fact that, to be as fast as those cars it often costs as much as those cars

[hybrid charm]

one of my friends tuned his mk3 supra to push 420hp (or there abouts) from its 7m-gte

which was a bad decision

[heady swift]

make it 4000 with rocket fuel, fujitsubo exhaust and hks turbo!!!

30 psi

extremely feasible

[hybrid charm]

the 7m was undertorqued from factory and has funky head bolts

so he blew the head gasket

[sage roost]

30 psi

I bet the engine is very reliable /s

[kind osprey]

Or go the forza route and make a Bmw Isetta pull 70 pounds of boost from a turbo larger than the engine itself

Rwd

Watch it fly

Literally

[jagged sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[kind osprey]

Indeed

[sage roost]

If forza upgrades make sense, surely a Lambo V12 would fit perfectly in a bone stock amc gremlin right? /s

[kind osprey]

Like nikado avacado in some 30 waist skinny jeans

🥵

[jagged sentinel]

I mean it fit a 5.0 V8

[jagged sentinel]

What's the Aventador V12? 6.5?

[heady swift]

[kind osprey]

Yea the gremlin is a weirdly shaped vehicle

[sage roost]

Correct

[kind osprey]

Long hood boi

[sage roost]

Is that a… Camry?

[hybrid charm]

hotwheels flashbacks

[heady swift]

that prius is still a hybrid (with a V8)

[heady swift]

prius

[sage roost]

Ahh

[jagged sentinel]

It was a really strange car in general

It also fucking sucked apparently

A hatchback with a 302 sounds awesome to me

[hybrid charm]

the morris marina of america

[jagged sentinel]

But I guess just not this time

Wait I think it was a 305

[kind osprey]

This is the car I take to school😎, wait wdym this is a different version 🤨, I drive a Corolla 🚙, this is a Corolla so that means this is my car how could you argue with such facts and logic 💪.

this is a Wendy’s sir, are you gonna order idc about your Toyota

[sage roost]

!shitposting

[kind osprey]

[jagged sentinel]

Sir, I don't care that you own the most-sold car of all time please just make your order and piss off

[sage roost]

Anyway, saw a GR Corolla the other day, nice car

would buy

but

[kind osprey]

Gr yaris makes a mediocre compact into something hot. Idk how they pulled that off

But we don’t get it in the us

[sage roost]

it all started from wanting a Yaris in WRC

[kind osprey]

So we have need to establish Hyundai N supremacy

[jagged sentinel]

Who is Hyundai owned by again

[sage roost]

Non gta channel

[kind osprey]

Hyundai owns Kia

[jagged sentinel]

Oh

[kind osprey]

They are the South Korean bunch

[jagged sentinel]

I actually like some of Kia's cars

[sage roost]

Wait not the other way around? The more you know..

[jagged sentinel]

I don't find any of Hyundai's cars interesting

[kind osprey]

Their cars used to be ugly as sin, but they hired designers recently

[hybrid charm]

tiburon 🥶

[kind osprey]

Now they look like pretty good cars

Still cheap but nice looking

[jagged sentinel]

And apparently Hyundai owners have no concept that cars need regular maintenance

[sage roost]

Kia went from a pretty mediocre company to actually making something high quality (sorta) and good looking

[jagged sentinel]

Kia Stinger is the only Korean car I'd consider

It's just... Cool

[kind osprey]

Yea the South Korean cars recently have just been killing the sales game. They have a real lineup

[jagged sentinel]

Genesis especially

[hybrid charm]

somehow the kia magentis was considered a "luxury" car in its time

aren't luxury cars meant to make you feel good

[jagged sentinel]

They've been murdering it recently

[sage roost]

I hope you changed your mind

Honestly, one of the ugliest cars of all time

just behind the multipla

[jagged sentinel]

I maintain my current statement

[kind osprey]

The Stinger is great because no one realizes how good it is because they are badgists “not a bmw” people and we get the gt at a $10,000 discount because they aren’t selling all that well

Yea the soul has, um, soul

The rest are normal

[sage roost]

what’s that small ass Kia called again?

[kind osprey]

Soul

[sage roost]

no there’s something smaller

[kind osprey]

Oh like an older one

[hybrid charm]

picanto?

[kind osprey]

That sounds familiar

Omg it’s like a little baby car

It’s pretty cute ngl

It’s like an angry little mouse xD

[jagged sentinel]

Tbh I'd probably choose a charger R/T over a stinger GT

[sage roost]

of course you would lmao

[kind osprey]

The gt probably handles better but you get more power for the buck with Dodge

[hybrid charm]

funny korean aygo

[jagged sentinel]

[hybrid charm]

i think i prefer it to the aygo

[jagged sentinel]

Cope
Seethe
Mald

[kind osprey]

Darth Vader car

[hybrid charm]

revenge of the trd

[kind osprey]

Lol

[winter reef]

Fingers crossed if Grandeur EV becomes a thing

[kind osprey]

Oh yea the revived old car

That was interesting

I like when companies show cool stuff like that

[winter reef]

i wish we still got cars like this i couldnt give a crap about muh angled car kills pedestrian thing

[jagged sentinel]

Fuck this internet

[winter reef]

because if people didnt know a car going at over 50km/h minimum will fuck you up regardless of shape

[jagged sentinel]

I was gonna send pics comparing a Kia stinger gt2 and charger RT but I can't send the pics cuz internet shit

[winter reef]

also Suzuki just got a whack ass L from me

Their 2022 SX-4 S-Cross is absolutely balls stinky with the first 2 configs

as in the first 2 equipment packs dont have fucking navigation

in 2022

how

how does that reduce cost

[jagged sentinel]

Less they have to put in the car

[winter reef]

the 2021 version was like the perfect economy suv under 20k

with everything

now they fucked it up

also the grille looks kind of worse

https://radacini-otopeni.suzuki.ro/wp-content/uploads/sites/22/2020/09/suzuki-sx4-s-cross-update.jpg

2021 model

https://autolatest.ro/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/zertusru.jpg

2022 model

[hybrid charm]

looks a bit like the grille on the swift

[winter reef]

it's a downgrade imo

so yeah the S-Cross aint any longer on my family's new car list for sure

just because of this navigation thing

like come on you got a media display and you cant implement the uttermost basic feature of one

Anyhow we thought of maybe getting the Toyot Yaris Cross or Corolla Sports Tourer, or a dacia duster or in the worst case scenario, a Nissan Juke

[hybrid charm]

i can hear richard hammond raving at the thought of the juke

[jagged sentinel]

Against it you mean?

[hybrid charm]

sarcasm

[winter reef]

to be fair the first gen design is ok

i just hate the round headlights

they look out of place

https://www-europe.nissan-cdn.net/content/dam/Nissan/nissan_europe/Configurator/Juke/P13A/grade/juke_tekna_uk.png.ximg.l_12_m.smart.png

also i love how the back looks

[hybrid charm]

i don't like the bog standard juke, but i like the idea of the juke-r/juke nismo

[winter reef]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d8/2012_Nissan_Juke_S_AWD--_NHTSA.jpg

the over the hood lights signals are pretty unique

but the round headlights and grille gotta go

so yeah second gen is better grille wise but the round headlights look disgusting

they belong on a beetle not this thing

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/T2_aLRfwwdQ/maxresdefault.jpg

also the corolla sports tourer is pretty cool

comes standard with hybrid petrol motorization

and the headlights look awesome

and when you see the blue outline toyota logo you know it means business

[winter rock]

oh lol cool didnt know that lol i only drive off road cars off road

im not old enough for cars

[kind osprey]

I want to one day get an old G wagon or a Land Cruiser and make it some mountain beast that can go up anything

Those cars are great stock but you could always makes things more catered or better

[sage roost]

What if you want a G wagon and a land cruiser at the same time?

you buy an FJ cruiser

[winter reef]

i love the g wagon design

we need more classic designs modernised

[hybrid charm]

so something along the lines of this

i'm one of those people that think the g wagon is overpriced for what it is

sure, its equipped to the teeth and has decent offroad capabilities

but if i wanted that i'd probably buy an older gle

[winter reef]

welcome to mercedes

overpriced cars with squeaky plastic

[jagged sentinel]

But not a lot of g wagon owners end up utilizing those capabilities

[hybrid charm]

g wagon just screams concourse to me

might as well rename it "the clout mobile"

[kind osprey]

@winter reef They managed to make a rugged portal axle off roader with triple locking differentials into a luxury vehicle in what world would this not be expensive

The older amg ones are kinda shit but the new ones got a massive upgrade and are pretty much worth their price nowadays

[kind osprey]

Ain’t that the unfortunate truth

I like cars for what they are so the whole status symbol thing didn’t even introduce itself to me until I was like 14. I can never dislike a car because a certain group of people primarily drive it

[hybrid charm]

you have a point, but i think there are certainly other contenders out there when it comes to luxury off-roaders that serve their purpose better than the g-wagon

[kind osprey]

The only two in a similar league would be a fully maxed out land cruiser or a Range Rover. Wranglers are nice but don’t come nearly as packed from the factory

[hybrid charm]

the 2022 range rover could be a serious contender

[kind osprey]

The Land Rover defender is also a low tier contender but it is also half the price

[jagged sentinel]

They're also Chrysler products, which... You know...

[kind osprey]

I’ve never had an issue with them ik they have a horrible reputation maybe I just got lucky

[jagged sentinel]

Tbh same

Dad's 2013 ram 1500 big horn

Had it 7 years, ~180,000 miles

Never broke down once

[kind osprey]

The worst my wrangler ever did to me was stop turning on the free way lmao

That was interesting

But it was already 7 years old at that point. Still wasn’t fun

[jagged sentinel]

I think their cars have gotten better over the past 10 years

[kind osprey]

Yea all car makers have decided to stop building shit and just make everything unaffordable in return

Back then you knew what was cheap and what was expensive

Now everything is either slightly expensive or too expensive

[jagged sentinel]

Ford Maverick

[kind osprey]

Oh that little thing

I forgot about that

[jagged sentinel]

A fully kitted out, Lariat Maverick is less then 40K

Iirc*

[hybrid charm]

is the new chevrolet blazer any good

[kind osprey]

Yea that’s still a lot for the tiniest vehicle they offer, but inflation and higher standards of safety do play a key factor in cars just costing so much

[jagged sentinel]

Good value, but does not deserve its name

[kind osprey]

Remember when it was a real box

[jagged sentinel]

Pretty sure it isn't the smallest vehicle they offer but ok

[kind osprey]

And not a big crossover

[jagged sentinel]

Augmentation: remember when it was cool?

[kind osprey]

Smallest pickup, I didn’t mean smallest in the whole selection. But with the way ford is moving

They will only be building pickups

And maybe two family suvs

[jagged sentinel]

Why is it pickups that have had the worst price increases lately

[hybrid charm]

the front is so flat, i kinda like it though

[jagged sentinel]

See Ford bronco

Its competitor

Rival, rather

[kind osprey]

Aerodynamics played a huge role in car design in the 1980’s. Their stance was “gas cheap, make car have more drag” and now everything is cool and angular

[hybrid charm]

swag

[kind osprey]

I mean look at the Countach, that thing is a low rendered piece of art

[hybrid charm]

shame it wasn't all that functional

i don't really care though

[kind osprey]

As long as it was fun

[jagged sentinel]

I think it was that aerodynamics were just not a concern prior to 73

[kind osprey]

It did its job

[hybrid charm]

the countach and the 512tr i'll always have a soft spot for

and the original testarossa

and the 512m (despite it being somewhat ugly)

[kind osprey]

They were a huge concern in the mid to late 30’s and mostly the 40’s but cars just stopped being made between the funny war times

[jagged sentinel]

I mean it didn't seem like much of a concern in the 50s and 60s

[kind osprey]

Idk why but in the late 60’s they just said fuck this create all the drag you want

Before that cars were really round and made well

[jagged sentinel]

Doesn't seem that aerodynamic to me

[kind osprey]

I bet the shape an old Mercury from the early 50’s had better drag coefficient than a crap box from 1980’s gm

[kind osprey]

The whole car is rounded off

Look at the roof, the window the sides are more inwards than the doors

The back tire is covered for aero

[jagged sentinel]

It doesn't really look like aerodynamics were a huge concern

[kind osprey]

The main points of drag would be those headlights

[jagged sentinel]

It was perhaps a concern, but probably not a significant one

[kind osprey]

But that’s minuscule

[kind osprey]

Aerodynamics were a huge concern before the period of “make fiber class box cause gas cheap”

[hybrid charm]

that dodge looks a bit like a plymouth fury

never seen one of those before

[kind osprey]

Cars looked good before the 70’s

[jagged sentinel]

Styling was definitely more prevalent then aerodynamics back then

[kind osprey]

But between the 70’s and late 80’s the style just asked for 8mpg

[kind osprey]

Clunky ugly cars

That only improved on costs for the company

[jagged sentinel]

I mean the 3rd gen Camaro got pretty much average mileage for "muscle cars" like it today, if not a little lower

[kind osprey]

These look more aerodynamic than anything out of the 80’s that wasn’t a full fledged race car

[hybrid charm]

man, some speed record cars sure are beautiful

[kind osprey]

https://youtu.be/BwcTvUrGLwA

[jagged sentinel]

I feel like this would probably cut through the air a bit better then a 57 Plymouth fury

[kind osprey]

The iroc’s were good exceptions considering they were two door impractical coupes but the shape of that front just screams overheating issues

Idk much about them though so who knows

The car is still very angular on that a pillar corner

And a super flat roof that just dives into a slope

Instead of swooping in

One thing they definitely improved upon though was capitalizing of the bottom of the car

Making that efficient was something they actually did right between the dark ages

[hybrid charm]

i feel like ford were thinking about making the 1982 mustang "aerodynamic", but then decided on making it a box

less aerodynamic and more-so sloped

[kind osprey]

Yea this body style is ridiculous

Most cars were like this if not worse

[jagged sentinel]

The foxbody is the ugly duckling of the mustang generations

[jagged sentinel]

You think the Camaro of the 80s looked like it would have overheating issues?

Look at this shit bruh

[hybrid charm]

is that the zr1 model

[jagged sentinel]

Yes

The one that beats a 911 in performance for half the price?

[hybrid charm]

i like how chevrolet did basically nothing to distignuish the base model from the zr1 model

[jagged sentinel]

I mean the fenders are bigger to accommodate bigger tires but they were so well-integrated you would've never noticed

[hybrid charm]

yeah

[jagged sentinel]

Originally it had a different rear-end

But later on the other C4s got the ZR1's rear end styling

[hybrid charm]

pretty cool cars

i heard the interior really let them down

[jagged sentinel]

Yeah, that was everyone's biggest problem with the car given its price

But it seems it's performance/sensation-per-dollar was what everyone who didn't hate it loved it for

[hybrid charm]

i would've gone for the zr1 over that generation's 911 back then

[jagged sentinel]

Same