transportation

[old sedge]

Well, if you want fuel efficiency without lag, just buy supercharged vehicles

[jagged sentinel]

Superchargers aren't that great for fuel efficiency either

[old sedge]

Superchargers are simple and have no lag

[ashen carbon]

Brundle on the grid and Toto is still bitching about the rear wing incident

[jagged sentinel]

But they induce more wear on the engine

[old sedge]

Oh...

[jagged sentinel]

Since it it operates from the moving parts of the engine itself

[old sedge]

I haven't seen supercharged diesel engine in my life

[jagged sentinel]

Turbos on diesels just make more sense

[wooden shard]

Yea

[main cosmos]

Raceee

[jagged sentinel]

Diesels don't really need the low-end power a supercharger would provide

[old sedge]

Oh, right

[jagged sentinel]

Diesel fuel gives that in Spades

[old sedge]

And I wanna ask something. When I use manual shift in automatic, why does my engine rev up whenever I shift down even though I didn't step on the gas?

[heady swift]

superchargers are awful for fuel efficiency. As long as the engine is active, the supercharger runs too, meaning that you'll consume additional fuel when idle or cruising in urban areas

[jagged sentinel]

I think you meant supercharger

[main cosmos]

@old sedge because you downshifted on the same speed

[heady swift]

turbochargers can save fuel (mostly on highways) if the engine is configured for that, which manufacturers usually do

[heady swift]

I said that?

[ashen carbon]

Because the act of "shifting down" doesn't slow anything down.

[main cosmos]

Also known as engine braking

[heady swift]

it's also very straining for your transmission

ah yeah, good eye

[old sedge]

Same speed with the gear before I downshifted?

[jagged sentinel]

Bet

[main cosmos]

Going downhill I keep the engine around 1500-2500
It slows it a bit and saves a lot of fuel

Some switch to neutral which is wrong

[old sedge]

Some people recommend engine braking when going downhill instead of riding on the brakes

[main cosmos]

Yes

[jagged sentinel]

Yeah that doesn't really sound quite right

[main cosmos]

Because on neutral your engine with consume fuel

[old sedge]

That's called coasting on neutral which is dangerous and contrary to popular belief, it doesn't reduce fuel consumption

[heady swift]

yeah it depends on your RPM range, some people shift down for the sound but outside the safe RPM window, which slowly kills their trans

[jagged sentinel]

Mmm yes money shifting does sound nice doesn't it

[heady swift]

I mean if you can afford it lmao

[main cosmos]

[jagged sentinel]

I'm so concerned about money shifting when I learn to drive stick

[old sedge]

What are your techniques when you're accelerating from a standstill at upslopes?

[main cosmos]

It's not that dangerous on road cars
Extremely dangerous while racing

[heady swift]

really depends on your car

[jagged sentinel]

I'm more concerned about the car then myself

[heady swift]

can't exactly use the clutch in an automatic

[old sedge]

One of my friends rolled all the way down in reverse because his engine would often stall(manual) whenever he tries to accelerate from a standstill while on an upslope.

[jagged sentinel]

I'd be learning to drive stick in an 87 IROC-Z with a 305

[main cosmos]

I mean ... U gonna blow up your engine not yourself

[jagged sentinel]

Yes. A mostly parts-matching one

[old sedge]

I was about to tell him "First, set your parking brake, then rev your engine at high rpm then after releasing your handbrake, quickly shift to 1st gear" but I didn't

[heady swift]

I've seen people drive with their handbrake enabled, I wouldn't recommend that unless you have a very strong handbrake lmao

[jagged sentinel]

You'll be greeted with a nasty smell when you stop

[old sedge]

I often tell other people to perform "neutral drop acceleration" to accelerate from standstill at upslope

[main cosmos]

My car comes with auto brake if it detects moving off a hill or something...
It keeps braking for about 1.5 seconds after me lifting my foot off the brakes enough for the engine to pick up the torque

[old sedge]

Cars are really not that techy here

[main cosmos]

This feature is very old lol

[old sedge]

In fact, stability/traction control only became standard here like last year

[old sedge]

And some still has no features like this

[heady swift]

You can always use your clutch pedal

[jagged sentinel]

Meanwhile in America, backup cameras became mandatory 3 years ago

[old sedge]

Even Land Cruisers here have no simple backup cameras as standard

[main cosmos]

I have no features whatsoever in this shitbox

[dry sage]

Horner is trolling Toto.

[jagged sentinel]

I wanna say my truck has dick all features but I probably have a more-equipped car then other people

So I really shouldn't complain

Still gonna bash it anyway, because it's a Ford

[old sedge]

Ford is reliable

[jagged sentinel]

That's funny

[old sedge]

The previous gen Mitsubishi Challenger here is said to have "sudden unintended acceleration" issue and I think those cases are still unsolved here.

[heady swift]

I don't have my own car because there's no reason to, but my bicycle is very technological yes

[jagged sentinel]

They don't have that reputation over here

[heady swift]

for american brands they are

compared to japanese, aside from nissan and current mitusbishi, they're not

[old sedge]

If I'm not mistaken, if Ford cars are treated well, they can be more reliable than even Toyota

[jagged sentinel]

Eeeeeh

[jagged sentinel]

No

[heady swift]

never

you can drive old toyota's off a cliff and spit on it and it'll be more reliable than any ford or bmw

[old sedge]

We had bad experiences with past Mitsubishi and here, Mitsubishi diesels can be prone to failing emission tests

[heady swift]

every car fails emission tests

literally every car

they test the cars under unrealistic conditions and often use AI to detect tests in general

[old sedge]

I like modern Mitsubishi here because they're more techy than other competitors though

[heady swift]

mitsubishi used to build really tanky cars but after in the 2000s they fell into a financial hellhole and made shit

[old sedge]

Mitsubishi and Nissan formed a partnership

[heady swift]

the only reliable thing to come out of post 2000 mitsubishi were the evo's and some pajero's

[heady swift]

yes, and they were both nearly bankrupt

but nissan has a bigger demographic, so they had some cash to burn in the past 20 years

[old sedge]

In fact, the current gen Mitsubishi Challenger(It's called Montero Sport here) even uses Calsonic ac which made Nissan famous for having cold ac.

[heady swift]

nissans are unreliable compared to other japanese brands

[old sedge]

How about the Nissan pickups?

[heady swift]

eh

why bother

just buy f150 or toyota

[old sedge]

The Nissan Pathfinder is famous

[jagged sentinel]

Only non-american company offering a truck I'd consider is Toyota

[heady swift]

tacoma is even more famous

[jagged sentinel]

Toyota is the most American Non-american company out there imo

[heady swift]

eh

[ashen carbon]

The RB fan in me:
The McLaren fan in me:

[old sedge]

Toyota Tundra is nice

[heady swift]

their sales are really subdivided between US and EU/japan

[jagged sentinel]

Their trucks are very well-known, they have successful teams in NASCAR, NHRA,

[heady swift]

EU/japan primarily buy their hatchbacks and small crossovers, which are not american at all

in the US they have their fair share of trucks and SUVs

they're also huge in european racing

they are really good at catering their cars to american and european audiences

[old sedge]

Chevrolet cars also are less reliable than Japanese car brands?

[heady swift]

yes

[jagged sentinel]

That's mostly what I'm saying; they have a pretty good foothold in america

[vocal tide]

Hamilton is very fast

[sage roost]

bye bye championship

[jagged sentinel]

More reliable then some, less reliable then some

[old sedge]

But I'm guessing they're still less reliable than Toyota

[vocal tide]

that was the smallest touch

for Lando to get a puncture

[jagged sentinel]

Most American companies can't hold a candle to Toyota's consistent reliability

[heady swift]

brands like toyota, mazda, lexus (expensive toyoba) are at the top of reliability. Mitsubishi's new line of cars are also quite reliable

korean cars are also very nice

hyundai and kia have been killing it in the past 10 years

[vocal tide]

oh, SC

[jagged sentinel]

Genesis hit the ground running

[heady swift]

yeah great line

their N division has also been going wild

major victories at rally

[sage roost]

I stg if either RBs fuck up the restart

[vocal tide]

Yuki tried to send Stroll to Narnia

[jagged sentinel]

Personally I'm not much a fan of genesis but damnit if they haven't been killing it lately

[ashen carbon]

Sent Hamilton to Perez's ass instead

[old sedge]

If Nissan is less reliable than other Japanese brands, does it mean it's less reliable than Suzuki?

[heady swift]

suzuki is very reliable too

but they're not big outside asia

their sales are tiny compared to nissan or honda

I do see them around

[old sedge]

People say that in my country, Honda's reliability went downhill

Older Honda cars here are more reliable than the new ones

[heady swift]

I mean most manufacturer's reliability went down-hill as cars are currently not purely mechanical. Electrical technologies are complex, the factors are introduced the more prone you are to faulty production

[sage roost]

SC ending

[heady swift]

but in the grand scheme of things, honda is more reliable than most european and american brands

[vocal tide]

oh, I'm half to 1 lap behind

[jagged sentinel]

This is true

[ashen carbon]

Stroll is definitely not going to have a great day with that damage

[old sedge]

Well, Mitsubishi's reliability went up at least

[heady swift]

yeah they've been growing since their down-fall

focusing on cross-overs instead of fun things

still miss the evo

fantastic piece of technology

[jagged sentinel]

I still hate them for that

[heady swift]

and rally heritage

[main cosmos]

That was an awful overtaking attempt

[heady swift]

I mean they continued then the mother concern would actually bankrupted them

[sage roost]

I hate them for ruining the eclipse name

[old sedge]

Don't worry, Mitsubishi will revive the Evo so I'm sure you'll love it.

[ashen carbon]

You mean the one from Yuki? Yeah, big cringe.

[old sedge]

The new Evo will be an e-suv though

[sage roost]

He liked Hamilton’s move from yesterday

[jagged sentinel]

At least they didn't name an Electric SUV using a name that was and currently is still in production

[main cosmos]

Yeah

[vocal tide]

But Lewis didn't divebomb from Narnia

[sage roost]

More debris from mick

[vocal tide]

there's no way Yuki could make that

[sage roost]

VSC

[old sedge]

In a youtube comment, when someone talked about how reliable Toyota LC is, when I said that Ford Explorer is more reliable than that, another person called the Explorer "Ford Exploder"

[jagged sentinel]

Reference to funny tire defect back in the early 2000s

[old sedge]

Oh

I did ask "When did Ford Explorers have any serious issues which require recalls?"

Then he said that "Ford Exploder" comment

[jagged sentinel]

It's an american company
They're going to say which one /s

[ashen carbon]

Perez has a good VSC end, fortunately

[old sedge]

Perez is great at defending his position, at least in one race though.

[ashen carbon]

Yeah his racecraft is good

His problem in RB has mainly been qualifying

[mint plank]

Perez wasn't doing too great early season with all the shit qualis but last few races he's found his groove

[vocal tide]

Perez might did jumpstart

[sage roost]

“Get max to give me drs”

Hmm

[old sedge]

Perez did win at least once when Hamilton went DNF if I'm not mistaken

[ashen carbon]

The Baku shitshow, yeah

[mint plank]

Yup

[sage roost]

ah Baku

We went through all kinds of emotion in 5 minutes

PEREZ

[ashen carbon]

Pirelli fucked Max (and Stroll) over, Hamilton fucked himself over, and we ended up with a very exciting podium.

[sage roost]

NOO

YESSSSSS

[ashen carbon]

Turkey 2.0

[vocal tide]

what happened

[twin fiber]

Fuc

[vocal tide]

Did Perez s🅱️in?

[twin fiber]

Ayyy

[old sedge]

Under right circumstances, Hamilton will have slim to no chance in overtaking Perez

[vocal tide]

oh, I see it now

things spicing up now

[sage roost]

Inb4 RB pull an aggressive undercut

for checo

To overtake Lewis

[main cosmos]

Checo: "why can I hear boss music?"

[sage roost]

PLEASE I need merc to pull another Monaco pit stop

[ashen carbon]

... on Lewis.

[sage roost]

I’m pretty sure they have different pit crews

And Bottas has the incompetent crew

[ashen carbon]

If true, unless they swapped for that race, don't forget Hamilton's pit crew did a Russell.

[sage roost]

Ham pits

[ashen carbon]

So-so pit time for Gasly (2.9)

[sage roost]

Ver pits

Ahead of ham

[vocal tide]

did RB pit crew mess up?

[ashen carbon]

Identical pit time between VER and HAM (2.4)

Lando on Carlos' ass again

[sage roost]

VSC

…again

[ashen carbon]

Stroll's car falling apart

[uncut saddle]

Stroll's falling apart

[sage roost]

max undercut

Latifi did a kubica

[vocal tide]

not as bad as kubica

but #traditions

[sage roost]

“I think we threw away an easy 1-2” - Bottas

Not today fucker

[vocal tide]

Ferrari strategy

[sage roost]

That was close

Damn

[uncut saddle]

Jesus

[vocal tide]

It's sprint weekend

[uncut saddle]

And now we wait for the penalty

[vocal tide]

you thought VER was gonna be a saint?

[ashen carbon]

That's an interesting racing line

[uncut saddle]

"Racing line? Where we're going we won't need racing lines!"

[sage roost]

Senna Prost all over again huh

[vocal tide]

that's a slam dunk

[vocal tide]

and there it is

[uncut saddle]

Honestly

Leave as is

[sage roost]

Noted, not under investigation

[uncut saddle]

This is racing

[ashen carbon]

Who tf decided to replay Lewis' rear wing

[uncut saddle]

Lmao

[sage roost]

The person that wanted to see that beautiful rear suspension

[ashen carbon]

Literally everyone else: "Max cockpit replay pls"

[sage roost]

Let’s see what the Twitter children think of this

[ashen carbon]

Monaco 2.0

Too bad the rear wing isn't as memeable as 18 Lance Stroll

[sage roost]

Someone had a seizure

[vocal tide]

oh, RIC's out

[main cosmos]

Sadge

[sage roost]

Ah Jonathan Wheatley

No investigation

YES

YES

[uncut saddle]

Good

They're learning!

[vocal tide]

Everyone before FIA radio: "Everyone hates Masi"
Everyone after FIA radio: "Everyone loves Masi"

[ashen carbon]

Did Mercedes miss a payment to the FIA this week

[vocal tide]

inb4 5s penalty in 6h time

[sage roost]

Only took Wheatley to reminds masi of the rules

[ashen carbon]

3 rulings against Merc this weekend

[vocal tide]

MaFIA meme is truly ded

[sage roost]

Meanwhile, Perez is closing the gap to Bottas

Was like 5.5 seconds a couple of laps ago

Ah nevermind

NOOOOO

FUCKS SAKE

[ashen carbon]

I mean, it's pretty obvious for a while

[sage roost]

Sigh

[vocal tide]

HAM P1?

[uncut saddle]

Toto losing it

B&W flag for Verstappen

[main cosmos]

Can max race cleanly for once

Changing direction more than once is not allowed

Especially in high speeds

It's too dangerous

[vocal tide]

It's championship fight

No margins given

Also Lewis had godly pace this weekend

[sage roost]

I wonder why

I wonder how

[vocal tide]

just think it as "magic"

[ashen carbon]

Yeah, should've done something cleaner. Like a pit maneuver on a high-speed corner.

[sage roost]

Verstappen should’ve done the Hamilton™️ move… on Hamilton

[main cosmos]

Ironically max was the reason that rule was invented

[sage roost]

Fun fact, only once in the hybrid era did the championship winner win in Brazil

Which was in 2018, because Hamilton won the championship before they went to Brazil

[vocal tide]

when did Hamilton crash on quali

in Brazil

[sage roost]

17

[vocal tide]

Well, that was entertaining

and filled with drama

[main cosmos]

Good race and beautiful helmet

Rip senna

[sage roost]

Post race interview hosted by massa

“So Lewis, how did it feel to get the championship in 2008?”

[main cosmos]

[twin fiber]

What happened in 2008?

[dry sage]

Glock going slowly.

That's what happpened. @twin fiber

Also, I'm calling huge BS on Merc's new engine.

[kind osprey]

#memes-and-shitposting

[winged rivet]

what the fock is this civic

[wooden shard]

Last week

[dry sage]

The fuck?

https://twitter.com/autocar/status/1460187567467421698?t=DhFWzGOoTrzFqls5vSyKEA&s=19

Autocar (@autocar)

BREAKING: An Autocar source says Audi has bought the entire McLaren Group with plans to enter its own team in Formula 1 https://t.co/7ZwzjLdxgz

Retweets

323

Likes

950

Twitter · Nov 15, 2021, 10:06 AM

[ocean rock]

magazine source

Someone desperate for cash

[ashen carbon]

Real interesting to say Audi is buying McLaren when Audi is itself wholly owned by VW

[dry sage]

2030: Formula VW

[main cosmos]

How to keep your air filter clean

[terse axle]

https://www.mclaren.com/racing/inside-the-mtc/mclaren-group-statement-sale/

[winged rivet]

such a beautiful car

[static gale]

all my homies hate the juke

[winged rivet]

just give it gator light covers and it would instantly look better

[static gale]

https://tenor.com/view/sinatraa-gif-21725279

[blissful lagoon]

No

[winged rivet]

bitch what could they do to make it look better ??

[blissful lagoon]

Burn it

recycle it

crush it

crash it

put it in the ocean

throw it off a cliff

Etc etc

[kind osprey]

^

[hollow cobalt]

It's ugly ngl

[winged rivet]

why yall hate on the juke so much

[sage roost]

try to guess why

[winged rivet]

gator lights

[blissful lagoon]

Cause it looks like shit

[wild brook]

beautiful

[surreal saffron]

Work do be like

[sage roost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/495693722160332800/910093081091657728/E6C97C86-67D5-4B98-813F-B2F589C1C74E.jpg

[dry sage]

https://twitter.com/F1/status/1460537252606615555?t=WtmtkGJtAB7OT3SGUrb4kw&s=19

Formula 1 (@F1)

BREAKING: Guanyu Zhou will race for Alfa Romeo in 2022, becoming China's first full-time #F1 driver

Retweets

2357

Likes

11811

Twitter · Nov 16, 2021, 9:16 AM

[sage roost]

Who would’ve thought

[old sedge]

Is it just me or Nissan's FWD LMP1 is not good?

[winter reef]

https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/1mmAp/s3/mazda-cx-50.jpg

god i cant wait

[sage roost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/495693722160332800/910202389997449296/257939199_2292626127561023_539458548419963756_n.png

Merc back on their bullshit

3 days after claiming “we want to win these world championships on the race track”

[heady swift]

You should look at the car's history. It was a novel prototype to put the driver in the rear while the majority of engine and driveline components in the front

But the car wasn't developed enough and the hybrid system failed

only one car finished, sort of

and the entire team was laid off the next day through an email

[old sedge]

The design is so odd

Nissan would have greater chances of winning 24h of Le Mans at least once if their R92CP raced during the 1980s when there are no chicanes on the straight.

[uncut saddle]

It's so fucking sad

I would understand where they come from if Ham lost his chance at victory because of that incident, but he fucking won

[sage roost]

hurr durr we want to win on the track but we also want to appeal to the FIA

hurr durr we are getting humiliated this season we must cry to the stewards

[uncut saddle]

Extremely pathetic and once again a bad look for Mercedes

[sage roost]

It’s been over an hour but still no statement from the FIA yet

I’m not talking about the actual decision, just like the summons

[kind osprey]

Bruh this is not a comparison

[winged rivet]

yall know about this car?

[kind osprey]

Looks familiar

Is that the one they banned in Maine

[blissful lagoon]

Think it is

ha i can't buy one then

[uncut saddle]

Still nothing on the Mercedes request

[winged rivet]

Mazda Bongo

[gray scarab]

fr

[sage roost]

The FIA still didn’t post the summons of the “right of review” from merc on their website

[uncut saddle]

Still nothing

[sage roost]

No statement from Mercedes’ about talking to the stewards, I think they forgot about it

[sage roost]

Press conference on Friday

[uncut saddle]

Cage fight

[main cosmos]

It's all for the money 📈

[old sedge]

Why are F1 race cars illegal for road driving?

[jagged sentinel]

Where do we start?

[sage roost]

Try to… guess yourself?

[heady swift]

hmm

[sage roost]

B-B-But the redbull racing Honda formula 1 team drove their formula 1 race cars around normal cities multiple times!!!

[sage roost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/825775327397412904/910591282903134208/IMG_7115.jpg

Fuck Mercedes

[jagged sentinel]

What happened

[sage roost]

Mercedes requested a right of review to the stewards 3 days after the incident took place

With “new relevant info” I doubt it’s more than the onboard

[hybrid charm]

50z with a convertible roof

look at this piece of shit

[kind osprey]

What's wrong with it?

[heady swift]

I mean it's a fun car for summer days

[brave spindle]

subie😍

[jagged sentinel]

Sus

[dim plover]

Most racing cars aren't road legal, except for Rally cars, as sometimes they are required to drive on public roads in between stages

[heady swift]

Yeah, even R5 and WRC are technically road legal

but you wouldn't be able to daily drive them as it's insanely expensive to maintain and race cars tend to overheat

you also don't have airco or anything resembling comfort

[hybrid charm]

i don't even like the 50z with a hardtop

it isn't a very good looking car imo

like most flagship nissan sports cars from the mid-late 90s to the early 2000s

now to wait for someone to tell me "b-but the r33 and r34 were beautiful!!??!!!?"

[heady swift]

I really like the r34s looks

it's not spectacular or anything

[jagged sentinel]

It's flashier then previous skylines, and I like that about it

[uncut saddle]

I'm a big fan of the R32 myself

[jagged sentinel]

A lot of people are

[sage roost]

Personally, I like the R31 more than the others

[jagged sentinel]

R33 always seems to get the short end of the stick for some reason

[hybrid charm]

because it was unpleasant to drive

it had extremely soft suspension

and it was even more prone to brake fading than the r32

soft suspension + monumental body weight = catastrophic understeer

[kind osprey]

That’s really interesting, I haven’t heard many technical reasons about it

I’m betting most current r33 owners have modified suspension and a big brake kit, is the r32 the only rear steering one or does the r33 have that as well?

[sage roost]

FFS

[main cosmos]

drama continue

[hybrid charm]

i believe it was only the r32

most r33 owners buy suspension arms fit for the s13 and s14 silvia k's

they marginally increase the stiffness of the suspension

though it barely makes a difference in terms of understeer

for that you need tires with bigger width

[drowsy folio]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CVp9cBlAZwI/?utm_medium=share_sheet

Cool F1 video

[sage roost]

Lewis living life dangerously

[hybrid charm]

when the legend drove a legend https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUVkVB3SUf4

[jagged sentinel]

How brave

[sage roost]

https://twitter.com/chrismedlandf1/status/1461671009736613893?s=21 well well well

Chris Medland (@ChrisMedlandF1)

DECISION: Mercedes request to the right of review has been denied #F1

Twitter · Nov 19, 2021, 12:21 PM

@uncut saddle

[uncut saddle]

Nice

Good

[sage roost]

My reaction for the second time in a week:

https://tenor.com/view/f1-ferrari-charlesleclerc-leclerc-italy-gif-21134140

[dry sage]

Thoughts on Qatar so far?

[sage roost]

Looks incredibly fun

For qualifying laps at least

https://youtu.be/0g26-gJNKGI

[unborn stirrup]

tiny

[main cosmos]

Love that car

[unborn stirrup]

you got one ?

[neon bone]

If he comes to Jeddah without an injury from a spectator it'll be considered a miracle

[sage roost]

That’s if he isn’t a prisoner by the end of the weekend

[ashen carbon]

[ocean rock]

FUCK SAKE CHECO

[main cosmos]

Pepega redbull moment

[sage roost]

Fucking hell checo

Just when we thought he got his mojo back

[ocean rock]

GAS win :sadgepray:

or HAM :sadgepray:

[dry sage]

Maybe RB needs a new engine, too?

[ocean rock]

Damn GAS robbed of front row

sadge

[dry sage]

So where's Max struggling? Turn 1? Mid sector?

Cause iirc, he has more DF, maybe too much?

[ocean rock]

S3 got blocked by Gasly puncture

also, HAM going flat on 75% of S3

[dry sage]

So that's where Max would have to push.

Around that small kink in Turn 13 / 14.

[ocean rock]

I want a gasly win ngl but HAM win would be a big fuck you to RB and Qatar government.

[dry sage]

Gasly win or podium with Max win.

[sage roost]

chuckles we’re in danger folks

Unless max sends it down the inside at T1

This’ll be very difficult for RB to win

[dry sage]

If Qatar is already looking bad, I'm worried about Jeddah and Yas Marina.

[main cosmos]

Define bad

[sage roost]

Bad as in WDC is probably slipping away from max’s hands

Max would need a miracle to win the race

[main cosmos]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/880812760261349426/911680692453244948/image.png

[indigo dove]

kinder surprise egg car forza horizon 5

im not joking

look it up

[dry sage]

So what are Max's cards?

Perez is stuck in P11, he could try and go for overtakes.

Or RB could force him to run long - but then I doubt he'll be able to catch up.

As far as I know, Max struggles in these sections.

[sage roost]

Max given a 5 place penalty

👋 championship

[dry sage]

The fuck?

Only because of the fucking double-yellow?

[ocean rock]

Double waved yellow, again.

[dry sage]

Are you taking the piss?

[ocean rock]

Procedure are procedure dude, jeez

[dry sage]

Bullshit.

[ocean rock]

The fact to the matter is this isnt even the first time

2019 Mexico

Anyone?

[dry sage]

Hoping for a crash or shitty box.

[ocean rock]

[sage roost]

Let’s hope Alonso fucking shunts into Hamilton

[ocean rock]

Front row pileup, GAS win

[sage roost]

Knowing gasly’s luck he’ll be involved with the pileup

[dry sage]

If Alonso has the balls to hold up Lewis, I'll fucking kek.

[main cosmos]

5 places damn

Alonso's alpine is slow

Also this track might be tricky for overtaking so that would be interesting

[dry sage]

Yeah, but Alonso did alright in Hungary.

[sage roost]

if you no longer go for a gap~

[ocean rock]

Wow

Horner being baseless again

[dry sage]

Alonso's in front of you.

[ocean rock]

Fucking 10Head

[uncut saddle]

[sage roost]

we can still trust the “EL PLAN” and the “LE PLAN”

[vocal tide]

That is a nice sunset image

[ashen carbon]

So, why do I even bother watching again

[vocal tide]

Because you watching history?

[ashen carbon]

I think I can turn it off after lap 1 if nothing happens

[vocal tide]

It's 2021

[main cosmos]

What is this chaos lol

Alonso 3rd

[vocal tide]

VER 5 place penalty
BOT 3 place penalty

[ashen carbon]

There was a brief yellow flag on formation lap, apparently

[vocal tide]

[lucid hearth]

why ver got penalty

[vocal tide]

not slowing for double yellows

[sage roost]

Max already to 4th

[vocal tide]

Alonso shutting doors

BOT choking

[ashen carbon]

BOT choking in race is about as common as PER choking in qualifying

[ocean rock]

AY YO

what happened to BOT?

[ashen carbon]

idk

The usual, I suppose

[main cosmos]

Fknnn bottazz

[vocal tide]

BOT was like

"start happen, I do nothing"

[ocean rock]

ahh

s t a l i n

[sage roost]

Inb4 Bottas is stuck behind $troll all race

[ashen carbon]

If BOT isn't in the front, he isn't going into the front.

[ocean rock]

Inb4:
"From 11th on the start, Valtteri Bottas WINS the Qatar Grand Prix!"

[ashen carbon]

Gigalonso in front of Max

[vocal tide]

Hungary 2.0 but it's Verstappen

nvm

[ocean rock]

Well, there

[vocal tide]

Hungary but not Hungary

[ocean rock]

now he's back in 2nd

[sage roost]

Austria 2019 all over again

[ocean rock]

[dry sage]

1:28, the fuck?

[ashen carbon]

Grid penalty to HAM or VER only affects how far they're behind each other, tbh

[ashen carbon]

Both of them (HAM in particular) just bulldozes through the rest of the grid easily most of the time

[dry sage]

Pete to Lewis - "Maintain this gap."

[vocal tide]

the only effect of the penalties

[dry sage]

inb4 Lewis puncture

[sage roost]

Max has front wing damage

Fucking hell

[dry sage]

Nononono.

Don't do this.

[ocean rock]

Haas overtook Latifi

[vocal tide]

Toto smash table time

[ashen carbon]

Happened earlier this year, nothing new

[ocean rock]

3 sec gap already

[ashen carbon]

Bottas overtook someone. I'm impressed.

[dry sage]

Max is dropping. 4.9s

[vocal tide]

Wing dmg not helping things

[sage roost]

Oh, Bottas overtook stroll

I’m surprised

[ashen carbon]

Bottas overcoming expectations

[ocean rock]

called it.

[graceful knoll]

Is lewis in first place?

[sage roost]

Unless a miracle happens, no way max wins the race

[ashen carbon]

I really doubt anything is gonna happen between these two without some incident

[graceful knoll]

Alonso 3 place wow

[ashen carbon]

Hamilton is way ahead of Max in pace, Max is still way ahead of everyone else in pace.

[sage roost]

There isn’t any visible damage to the front wing

Of max’s car

[vocal tide]

Maybe HAM just has too much pace

[graceful knoll]

Ham since brasil is destroying everyone

[ashen carbon]

F1 aerodynamics are really delicate, may not be easily visible

[sage roost]

Lewis is saving the Brazil engine for the last 2 races

we’re fucked.

[ashen carbon]

FIA: We're banning party mode
Merc: That's fine, we'll bring a party engine when needed

[graceful knoll]

Nah i hope he wins this one just to break the recordd then max can win

[ocean rock]

perfectly legal

because engine mapping declaration is the same from FP1 to flag

why is max pitting now???

bruh

yeah HAM have a whole ass pit window now

[ashen carbon]

What are they even trying to achieve

Literal free pitstop for Hamilton

[ocean rock]

that is so

bone headed

[ashen carbon]

Are they betting on Merc fucking up

[ocean rock]

and thats saying something

[vocal tide]

and they didn't fuck up

so it's... yup.

Unless the Mercs and the Hards want to have a divorce

[ocean rock]

because 90 minutes ago i just heard Horner saying that Light Panels and Stewards overrides Marshal judgements and flags

[dry sage]

Lewis thinks it's too early.

[old sedge]

Is it just me or some spectators are watching from "danger zones" in this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25Ju7NQDpBI

[vocal tide]

Rally in nutshell

[ocean rock]

What to gain? Verstappen going to cut to an obvious pit window.

[dry sage]

Final Lap Puncture imminent?

[ocean rock]

doubt that

[sage roost]

It’s a 2 stop

I think

[ocean rock]

idts

[old sedge]

1:43-1:58...

[ashen carbon]

It is early, but Merc has literally nothing to lose unless they fuck up the pit, which they didn't

[dry sage]

One more pit.

[ashen carbon]

For real, they can both pit again right now and nothing would change. The 18 other cars are only relevant to them as blue flag obstacles or if they crash and cause yellow/red.

[sage roost]

Someone finally found the onboard of what Verstappen did to Hamilton’s rear wing

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/541760619657822208/911989205268328468/SnapInsta_257999011_1586371395057752_962048983913598305_n1.mp4

[ashen carbon]

McLaren can do a 2.4s pit?

[sage roost]

well considering they got the fastest pit stop in monza with 2.1s, maybe

[ocean rock]

🅱️ruh

[vocal tide]

Maz might not have stopped

[graceful knoll]

Did hamilton pitted already?

[ashen carbon]

Yes, one lap after Max

[sage roost]

Ferrari 2.2s pit

What

How

[graceful knoll]

Is he 1?

[sage roost]

Max gained on Lewis

[ocean rock]

you do realize that F1 offers live timing tower for free right?

[twin fiber]

This is so boring

[ocean rock]

https://www.formula1.com/en/f1-live.html

[vocal tide]

I mean, we are hoping for a car disintegration

[ocean rock]

or go to any sports site and its free with no acc

[twin fiber]

Good work by Ferrari pit crew

[ashen carbon]

Only way we're getting any drama or entertainment out of this at the current rate.

[graceful knoll]

Ham in 1 place?

[ashen carbon]

I'm sure this chat would've blown up if the top has any change

Find your own source, tyvm.

[twin fiber]

Perez and Bottas driving so gooood

[ocean rock]

as i say

live timing is free

the video though, no

F1 return to itv when?

[vocal tide]

1min delay team

[ocean rock]

Fuck you Chase for selling out to the News Corp cronies

fuck this shit man

i want legit stream

[sage roost]

Wait

Alonso is in Bottas’ pit window

[vocal tide]

How much Bottas choked in this race

[ocean rock]

We out here drivin like NASCAR

1-5th is the only one realistically in lead lap

[sage roost]

Bottas has a puncture

[vocal tide]

[ashen carbon]

Did he

[ocean rock]

nah, the first one was right

[grizzled dove]

rip bottas

[twin fiber]

?

[ashen carbon]

I finally know what Bottas is for: All the bad things we wish happen to Hamilton will happen to him instead

[lucid hearth]

tf

[vocal tide]

half a lap

[dry sage]

BOTTAS PUNCTURE

[twin fiber]

Nooooo

[dry sage]

LEWIS IS NEXT

[twin fiber]

NOOOOOOOOOO T-T

[sage roost]

Yes, even when Hamilton has a bad race, Bottas would get worse

Ayo Bottas and Russell are near each other once again

[ocean rock]

timing switched to Interval

50 sec gap

[ocean rock]

ALO: Why are we still here, just to suffer?

[sage roost]

Just when you thought Alonso would finally get a podium

[vocal tide]

do puncture dance

I dare you

[sage roost]

I’m assuming Lewis will pit and max will stay out

And it’ll be Spain 2.0

Watch

[vocal tide]

Risking a puncture?

Nah

They want to play the constructors

[sage roost]

Hamilton has vibrations

Which means he’ll increase his lead

[ashen carbon]

Is this AWS

[sage roost]

Redbull pitting before Hamilton

[grizzled dove]

max pit

[sage roost]

WHY

Perez is also putting

Alonso podium??????

[grizzled dove]

fucking qatar curbs are destroying their tyres 😔

[ashen carbon]

So, absolute no drama up front, joy.

Can't even pretend there is

[vocal tide]

That HAM and VER fans celebrating together seem wholesome

[sage roost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/685936740917313575/911996616364396574/IMG_7147.png

[lucid hearth]

lol alonso

pls podium

[dry sage]

Meanwhile there's me, hoping for a puncture.

[vocal tide]

But that's you

Oh

Nice Alpine message

[sage roost]

Remember when everyone thought overtaking will suck around here

Yeah…

Me too

[vocal tide]

Good try from Ocon

[ashen carbon]

Yeah Ocon tried

The best thing that could happen to Alonso rn is Norris and Perez duking it out and slowing themselves down for it

[grizzled dove]

Norris 4.4 stop

[sage roost]

Bottas will retire

Russell has a puncture

Silverstone 2.0

[ashen carbon]

Norris out of the podium fight

[vocal tide]

Norris P11

Mclaren surely are P4 in Constructors now

[sage roost]

Latifi also has a puncture

[grizzled dove]

Latifi too

lmao

[vocal tide]

THe fuck

[sage roost]

Told you, silverstone 2.0

[ashen carbon]

lol

[lucid hearth]

tf

[dry sage]

Lewis pls

[vocal tide]

wait what

[dry sage]

Max, stay safe

[vocal tide]

did anything happen

apart from Latifi blowout

[sage roost]

No

[dry sage]

Bottas out, George and Latifi puncture.

[ashen carbon]

Latifi's tire is in even worse shape, can he pit?

[sage roost]

Norris threw away points

Nope

[vocal tide]

Norris might have a slow puncture

[twin fiber]

What happened to Bottas?

[grizzled dove]

puncture

[vocal tide]

Puncture earlier, took a lot of dmg

[grizzled dove]

wait what's going on Lewis keeps losing int

[ashen carbon]

Probably trying to avoid curbs

[ocean rock]

dame dane

[grizzled dove]

dropped from 10 to 7.4 in less than a minute

[ocean rock]

super boring lol

[dry sage]

Is Max gaining??

[ocean rock]

i just watched the timeline of MGS and didnt realize its already lap 55

[vocal tide]

Max gaining really hard

[sage roost]

VSC

[ocean rock]

lost cause imho

[grizzled dove]

Safety car nooo

[graceful knoll]

2 laps to go lets go

[vocal tide]

well, that's Alonso on podium

[graceful knoll]

Race ending with safety car gg ham 1

[dry sage]

@grizzled dove Too late, fuck

[graceful knoll]

And GG ALONSO

[ashen carbon]

Wow, can't even have tire drama

Fucking Monaco was more exciting

[dry sage]

Fucking Williams.

New rule - extend laps if VSC.

[ocean rock]

damn you 2 really goin tosic on a damn backmarker

also thats just begging for coast race on the age of single fuel map

[grizzled dove]

this but in Spa this year

[vocal tide]

make fuel magically appear then we talk

[ashen carbon]

💤

[sage roost]

Forget about how many podiums Lewis and max have, Alonso vettel and raikkonen are on top of the overtake standings

[lucid hearth]

at least alonso podium

[vocal tide]

Norris had puncture

[lucid hearth]

so

[ashen carbon]

Yeah suspected as much

[grizzled dove]

Weeeee Alonso attaboy

[dry sage]

Good for Alonso and Max.

Lewis got lucky.

2 more laps and I bet his tire may have popped.

I hope Jeddah is gonna play out for Max.

[ashen carbon]

Shit race. Biggest drama was random punctures and we were denied even that in the end

[dry sage]

So the track's not good.

Or is it?

[ashen carbon]

Track bad, Pirelli

[vocal tide]

I mean, Portugal was shit

[grizzled dove]

Losail is garbo

[twin fiber]

Perez was 3rd what happened to him >.>

[vocal tide]

considering what we had last year

so ye, shit

Perez did 2nd pitstop

Alonso 1-stopped

[dry sage]

So...

Any hopes for Red Bull on this track?

[vocal tide]

There is always hope

the thing is

never discount Hamilton

EVER

[faint wind]

Yes

Fernando Alonso got the podium after 7 years

[sage roost]

I think it’s too late now

[faint wind]

Like finally

You sure

I mean the race is over so

[sage roost]

RB’s only hope is Abu Dhabi

[faint wind]

Fr?

[sage roost]

button for the interview

[dry sage]

I lowkey wanna see RB get a new engine. And have Max channel his inner Schumacher.

Final lap overtake.

Max P1.

[faint wind]

The,problem is mazepin is always LAST

On every race

I feel bad for him a bit doe

[dry sage]

I said Max, not Maz.

[faint wind]

o

mb then

[sage roost]

But the next tracks are not good for overtaking

[faint wind]

yes

Quite hard

[sage roost]

Abu Dhabi is better now, but still

[faint wind]

But the best track ever on f1 is Monza

tbh

[dry sage]

I just hope that Max doesn't blunder this.

He's the last hope to defeat Lewis, and AMG.

[sage roost]

Spa>

[ocean rock]

[sage roost]

[grizzled dove]

Sochi best track

[uncut saddle]

[vocal tide]

Wait

it's not over

Horner summoned to stewards

https://twitter.com/andrewbensonf1/status/1462451165287882754

Andrew Benson (@andrewbensonf1)

Christian Horner summoned to stewards for alleged breach of 12.2.1 f and 12.2.1 k of international sporting code. "Any words, deeds or writings that have caused moral injury or loss to the FIA... or its executive officers, and more generally on the interest of motor sport" 1/2

Twitter · Nov 21, 2021, 4:01 PM

https://twitter.com/ChrisMedlandF1/status/1462455382106943489

Chris Medland (@ChrisMedlandF1)

On @SkySportsF1 earlier, Horner said a "rogue marshal" was to blame for Verstappen ending up with a penalty, and said "it looks like a complete balls-up". Unaware if there were similar quotes to other broadcasters: https://t.co/FHBgrGtF5n #F1 #QatarGP https://t.co/E6Hbef9MZB

Twitter · Nov 21, 2021, 4:18 PM

[ashen carbon]

Merc remembered its FIA payment

[sage roost]

He fucked up

[ocean rock]

called it

it was so baseless that its just straight up just apt to be said in Sky network

the equivalent of Fox News in UK.

[vocal tide]

Horner used too much of his magic

[sage roost]

Anyway, I gotta give it to alphatauri

They converted a front row an a P8 to a 0 point finish

[languid moat]

Lvl 40 what vehicle should I get? I have the submarine

Tag me when u andwer

[blissful lagoon]

Ford focus

[main cosmos]

honda civic

[neon bone]

Fernando deserved that. Really did

[crystal tree]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/843662487672979516/911839704423473192/Free_Bradleys.mp4

[tepid star]

How people like to race very dangerous lol

[ocean rock]

Those sparks actually dont do a lot of damage

[tepid star]

Cool

[ashen carbon]

Meanwhile once again Alpine massively outperformed their shitboxes

[ocean rock]

The only time their stupid philosophy will work, besides Mexico

Fucking 10Head basically making an aerodynamic truck

Top heavy ass bitch

[sage roost]

I mean let’s be real these scenarios are very unlikely unless Lewis gets the Monaco pit stop again https://twitter.com/f1/status/1462700377317412871?s=21

Formula 1 (@F1)

Max can win the title at the next race in Saudi Arabia if he:

• Wins with Fastest Lap, and Lewis is 6th

• Wins, and Lewis is 7th

• Is 2nd with Fastest Lap, and Lewis is 10th

• Is 2nd, and Lewis fails to score

#F1 #HistoryAwaits

Likes

772

Twitter · Nov 22, 2021, 8:32 AM

[main cosmos]

Get a new power unit for bottas and crash him to max

💯

[terse axle]

max can just go full british gp on hamilton

[sage roost]

Actually

Freshly laid tarmac means the high speed corners won’t be as high speed

Which means Mercedes can’t fully utilize the engine

I still have hope.

[old sedge]

Why do Le Mans hypercars and LMP have long "fins" at their backs and some can extend up to their spoilers?

[winter reef]

Why is Mitsubishi actively killing their car division

[sage roost]

Because they’re Mitsubishi

[main cosmos]

Think they are investing in bigger divisions

[jagged sentinel]

For high-speed stability

[old sedge]

Oh, many group C race cars didn't have those if I'm not mistaken

[jagged sentinel]

Aerodynamic research wasn't as in-depth back then ig

[winter reef]

but pajero and lancer were good wtf.

[jagged sentinel]

There is the issue of money

You know, that thing the vast majority of companies were created to pull in?

[heady swift]

yes but they were expensive to produce and didn't bring in a lot of money

mitsubishi is a giant company and their car division is only a small part

after hitting rock-bottom, they started making cars that would sell again

their current line is actually pretty good, aside from it being boring

[sage roost]

Yeah

they still won’t be forgiven for using the eclipse name for a crossover

[winter reef]

yeah sullying the name of the eclipse killed my love for their cars

[sage roost]

Most Mitsubishis that I’m seeing from the current lineup are used as company cars

[heady swift]

I mean you can still like the eclipse, despite its name being used for a cross-over

[winter reef]

yeah but it's just a shame

i just spotted today an og eclipse

and reminded me of this tragedy

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/731595598872182836/912389376158359632/20211122_144327.jpg?width=329&height=676

car was moving tho

but the red one

popup headlights and all that

also pajero was kinda cool

still is

https://static.automarket.ro/img/auto_resized/db/article/103/867/878767l-1000x640-b-ab32547d.jpg

it's just big and great for families that live countryside

[main cosmos]

Meanwhile, people buy them for city drive and then complain about how its suspension is rough and of its fuel consumption

[jagged sentinel]

Right, it's like buying carbon-ceramic brakes and then complaining about the noise

[winter reef]

those kind of people always dont know what they want

to be fair i'd love to have a family and move countryside and get one of these pajeros or maybe something more futureproof that is closer to it, a land cruiser

to be fair i dont know many offroad family vehicles like this

because the term SUV is clearly understating their size and functions

[jagged sentinel]

There really aren't that many I can think of either tbh

[winter reef]

those were clearly built for the rural japanese market but we need more of these kind of vehicles in the whole world

[jagged sentinel]

In america if you want an off-road vehicle with good space you'd just get a truck, so you don't really see a lot of offroady SUVs like that

[winter reef]

i like this kind of cars because you can easily reach in the back trunk

[heady swift]

urbanisation is killing that sector, SUVs are mostly now built for middle-high class consumers in (sub)urban areas

[winter reef]

if i were my parents i would just get a second hand pajero or land cruiser but they want a brand new car for countryside semi offroad and cruising to school, so yeah we're getting a Suzuki SX4 S-Cross

oh right there's also jeep grand cherokee

not as big though

[jagged sentinel]

Exhibit A

[winter reef]

ah right cadillac that one company that used to make cool lowriders

[jagged sentinel]

What

They made big cars in the 50s and 60s yeah
Because everyone did

[winter reef]

well, not exactly lowriders but basically those 70's convertibles

[jagged sentinel]

American cars in the 70s were disappointing for the most part after '73

[blissful lagoon]

Would buying a old diesel Mercedes be worth?

[main cosmos]

yeah

depends on your use

[blissful lagoon]

Daily

Something like this

[kind osprey]

I saw that exact model today waiting in a parking lot

[main cosmos]

your worries about that model is how aged it's

[heady swift]

ehh

[main cosmos]

like is it still realiable

[heady swift]

you can buy a modern car and have better comfort for daily driving

less expensive to maintain as well

and safer

[heady swift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txD8AP2yt6Q&ab_channel=HillClimbMonsters

wir leben autos

[mint plank]

pajero, patrol, prado, land cruiser, all come to mind

[winter reef]

Patrol and Prado are on the shorter side

[old sedge]

If you think that's unforgivable, then wait till you see them turn Evo into an electric crossover

[ocean rock]

@sage roost @ashen carbon @main cosmos @vocal tide @dry sage @lucid hearth im just gonna poll yall, should i watch saudi GP?

@mint plank

[main cosmos]

yes

[sage roost]

For the chaos, yes

[ocean rock]

I can realistically watch both quali and race, its 11pm in ID

[mint plank]

For the chaos

[mint plank]

It'll be holidays for me so lul

[sage roost]

It’s that time of the year again where the title could be decided

[ocean rock]

Hhhhh yeah

Fuckin title decider too

[sage roost]

I’m sure it’s going to be like turkey last year

Skating rink

Imagine if the finale is 2010 all over again

with Hamilton being Alonso

[ocean rock]

Wait i mean

We have Vettel and Alonso on the grid, we have a russian driver on the grid as well

Saud is a new track much like abu dhabi in 2010

Mazepin held back Max confirmed?

[sage roost]

I mean unless mazepin wants to get murdered by Horner

There’s no way mazepin has the balls to hold back max

[mint plank]

Mazepin will get slaughtered by horner 😂

[dry sage]

Yes.

[sage roost]

New track surface could be interesting.

[swift galleon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/875366476041826334/912736209128796200/JDM_as_fuck--_on_Instagram___Dope_or_Nope__--Like_Share_Comment--_Follow_for_more__jdm_4s_fuck_Follow_for_more__jdm_4s_fuck_Check_out_my_store_--_LINK_IN_BIO_--_--_--__MP4.mp4

[hybrid charm]

something rb26 powered that isn't a stagea or a gtr

revolutionary

[pale hornet]

That is fucking amazing.

[crystal tree]

https://imgur.com/R7ZP1rB

[kind osprey]

All that for funny French car

[old sedge]

I really need this kind of garage

[kind osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT6o7hVOS2E&ab_channel=HooviesGarage

I love this all silver bmw lineup

[main cosmos]

B might be interesting

Overtakes there

Idk much about that track tho
Watch previous races

F1 race

Yes but what I mean is that there gotta be other racing series that took place there

Wtf

Idk how wide the track is or how long in the D part to know if it will be interesting or not

What I know is that there chance of chaos in B

[sage roost]

B

[analog radish]

[sage roost]

Where’s D in this pic

I’m assuming right here

[sage roost]

Hmm

yeah that’s a better place

[winter reef]

imagine modern vehicles....with handbrakes that you can grip your hand around and pull them up

crazy right?

[hybrid charm]

not even joking, that x5 is probably my favourite of the lineup

those things are rawrty

[main cosmos]

That's hella tight wtf

[ocean rock]

you know whats tighter?

The grip of MBS towards the royal family's throat.

[main cosmos]

Your rope?

[winter reef]

Is a 5k euro 1991 honda prelude worth it as a first car?

i know for sure the ac is going to be busted

but i dont know if that might be a problem

how does servicing an old car work these days?

[hybrid charm]

its pretty good