transportation

[blissful lagoon]

I shall

resurrect

dead miata

and make it fun daily

[ocean rock]

Believe it or not

thats super tame for a mini 4wd track

used to race em

back when im middle school

[strong saddle]

super lame? Thought it was a decent track

[ocean rock]

mhm

[strong saddle]

then again I was just browsing on the web

[ocean rock]

i remember you can get loop with this shit

no joke

loops

[ashen carbon]

You know what I want? Mazda to get on with the times and give the auto Miata a dual clutch, instead of saying their shitty auto is just as good with shitty marketing words.

[ocean rock]

You know what i want? An actually good nissan CVT

Ditch that cheapass jatco and give us an actually viable for tuning CVT

[sage roost]

Ah yes

My dad owns a ‘14 Sentra

And he went to get the transmission fixed well over 15 times

[ocean rock]

Like fr

Williams fuckin did it once, why dont the so called CVT lover nailed it?

[sharp lotus]

2021 Mercedes-Benz EQT Concept

[sage roost]

That looks like an evil smile

[sharp lotus]

Then the rear is all sad

[dire shard]

the front almost doesn't look horrible

but yeah then it turns into a sad box in the rear

[ocean rock]

dodge van lookin ass

[blissful lagoon]

Ooo caravan

[sage roost]

Can’t wait for the day they put a hellcat engine in this

[blissful lagoon]

I need to put a v8 in mine for lols

[ocean rock]

I want a hellbear

Basically hellcat motor converted for torque and runs on diesel

Label it as a cummins or whatever

[blissful lagoon]

I like the name hellboar more if its a diesel

[sage roost]

Imagine the dodge neon SRT4 with a hellcat engine

It won’t be an SRT4 anymore I know

[blissful lagoon]

Imagine the latest dart but a compact 2 door with a big ol v8 cramed in it

super stock dart 2.0

[ocean rock]

EPA boutta get a heart attack

[spring zenith]

[blissful lagoon]

Truck is smol compared to tahoe

very small

Loose belt go brrrt

[ocean rock]

Do you remember when you hear a merc f1 engine gearing down, and then you hear Peter Bonnington says "Get in there Lewis" @vocal tide @uncut saddle

Yeah, the good old times.

[hybrid charm]

jdm

[proper elbow]

I picked up a new project car

[lunar berry]

Good luck with it

[kind osprey]

Slightly used, runs well, might need some tlc but shes a hauler

[vestal garnet]

[barren hawk]

lmfao

[gloomy helm]

o.o

[kind osprey]

oh nice

[broken falcon]

lag much?

[gloomy helm]

Very lag

[broken falcon]

it's ok

[gloomy helm]

I have video of lag 2 sec

[broken falcon]

Dayum

I think I'm in love

[gloomy helm]

[analog radish]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LHbE3jFHRM

[ocean rock]

Why do they always make banger

[analog radish]

akrapovic is so sick

[ocean rock]

IKR

Its just, so sick that its shouldve been illegal

[analog radish]

uh

why do girls lure views by showing their bra

[ocean rock]

very common.

[analog radish]

yeah

[ocean rock]

but most i know is basically just rednecks doing SEO optimization

not like

actual cargirl youtubers.

[analog radish]

bru

did u see that lol

[ocean rock]

yes kekw

lewd pic?

[analog radish]

but

its weird

[ocean rock]

Anyway

imagine if 400Z only comes with Jatco CVT

ik its manual only confirmed

but just

imagine the backlash if its just CVT

[blissful lagoon]

I've heard nice things about these tops, should i consider?

[analog radish]

what

i really like the 400z

stop bringing such thoughts to my mind

[vestal garnet]

CVT sucks

[analog radish]

ok

[vestal garnet]

DSG

[sage roost]

Thanks for stating the obvious

[ocean rock]

CVT is good if theyre made by Aisin

Or Honda's proprietary one.

[pseudo oasis]

lol

[barren hawk]

top 5 lambo of all time

[hybrid charm]

looks like a corvette

[barren hawk]

ig

[hybrid charm]

i would definitely get that if they add it next dlc but they wont

[jagged sentinel]

Ah, the 350 GT

[ocean rock]

If hennesey made a ferrari tune

350 is nothin more than that imo

[blissful lagoon]

I'd drive one

Risk burning to death tho

[proper elbow]

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1988-chevrolet-corvette-31/ THE sledgehammer

[blissful lagoon]

Fixed vs unfixed start up

[buoyant vigil]

@kind osprey guess what this is from

[sage roost]

Is this a door handle?

[buoyant vigil]

unfortunately

[sage roost]

Hmm

[kind osprey]

Rippers

Nice you got to see one already?

I didn’t know they released real versions yet

I gotta check Manhattan Motorcars later

[rough wraith]

i assumed it was the gold vault door from casino heist lmao i think i may have a problem and that problem may include the fact that i did that heist about 342 times on xbox

[kind osprey]

The handle part looks like an expensive pen

[buoyant vigil]

theres one in LA

[dull siren]

[heady swift]

very nice bush indeed

[terse axle]

[dull siren]

and they're uncommon sightings

[analog radish]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BBcVCl1qoI

poggo

[sage roost]

Nice tree

[uncut saddle]

[analog radish]

yes

[uncut saddle]

I really don't like it@analog radish

Looks weird

[analog radish]

yeah

ok

i dont like it too

[uncut saddle]

Looks like they tried to copy the Corvette C8

[analog radish]

more like evija imo

[uncut saddle]

Oh yea

I always forget that thing exists

The nose is too short compared to the rear

[heady swift]

looks like a japanese lotus evora

[analog radish]

yeah

[loud spade]

I see a Z4 C8 Supra

[analog radish]

actually

its supposed to be a mid engined supra

[heady swift]

but why

[analog radish]

idk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbVjbr2IE3E

uh

[heady swift]

eh

[analog radish]

like mothers own a demon

[heady swift]

they do

[analog radish]

they may

[heady swift]

it's called a child

[analog radish]

lol

[sage roost]

There’s a higher chance mothers own trackhawks and Durango hellcats rather than demons

For...

Obvious reasons

[narrow thistle]

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a36384035/ford-f-150-lightning-name-confirmed/

reveal in 6 days

[ocean rock]

In this one i kinda agreed

its a good pun

[narrow thistle]

lowkey wacc to give a ev a old v8 street truck's name

but it fits ig

better than fucking mustang mach - e

[ocean rock]

its still gonna be high performing basically, but we'll see

[ember apex]

thats a pun?

[narrow thistle]

yes

bc

yk

lightning

electricity

and ev truck

electric

haha

ha

funi

also

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2022-civics-sedan-tuner-wheel-illustration/

kinda dope

[analog radish]

yes it does

on every civic

[kind osprey]

Those rims do not go well on that

[old sedge]

I want the current Civic's instrument cluster more than the next gen's.

The current one's instrument cluster feels more modern.

[kind osprey]

Honda's are so god dam boring but at the end of the day they are meant to be. They are very efficient, reliable, and affordable and they do very well in those regards

[old sedge]

In my country, Toyota and Honda are worshiped like the gods of car reliability.

[kind osprey]

They are globally

[old sedge]

But Hondas are expensive here though, more expensive than a Toyota and Subaru which is ironic because many people here still believe that Subaru is an expensive or luxury brand despite being actually cheap.

I say they're cheap because all their cars(except the BR-Z) here have AWD drivetrains and priced like a little cheaper than their Toyota and Honda counterparts which often have 2WD drivetrains.

[kind osprey]

Yea Subaru's are very good for the money

[old sedge]

Ikr, like why will I buy from other brands with less features and 2WD only if Subaru offers more, AWD and at similar price range?

The main problem for Subaru here is maintenance mainly because spare parts for them go scarce every 5 years.

[loud spade]

Say you’re keeping the car for 10+ years, Toyota > Honda and Subaru

[old sedge]

But if I'm about to buy a new car, I will sell it after 2-5 years because I will follow UK's footsteps of transitioning to EVs at 2030.

[old sedge]

Ford: Am I a joke to you?

Anyway, you're right. Our old Toyota is already 17 years old and still going strong.

Mazda on the other hand is so underrated.

[loud spade]

Dunno what they build their engines with, but they sure do last very long

My grandpa has had his 2002 Corolla for 18 years or so

[old sedge]

In my country, Toyota and Isuzu are rivals in making their cars last long but the problem with Isuzu is their engines emit lots of smokes.

Sometimes, even when people drive their newly acquired Isuzu out of the dealership, they emit lots of black smokes already.

My dad hates Mitsubishi because when he bought our last Mitsubishi van, he got apprehended for smoke belching already and the van was only 6 months old that time.

[loud spade]

My dad had a Mitsu and it broke in 2 years, had very bad fuel economy. He sold it right away and got a Corolla

[old sedge]

What's the mileage?

[loud spade]

About 250k

Km

[old sedge]

Well, Mitsubishi doesn't really have a nice reputation besides their Lancer Evolution. Their padded fuel mileage test in Japan didn't help either.

Nice, going strong huh?

[loud spade]

Yah

Just needs the AC to be fixed but he’s so silly and doesn’t want to do it

[old sedge]

My mom really wants to stick with Toyota as we're considering buying a new pickup while all my efforts to convince her to try a Ford failed...

But why not?

Our old Toyota broke down before too but it's mostly because of driver error.

[loud spade]

"It’s not worth it, I don’t got enough time left for it to be worth it"-him

[old sedge]

It oh. We gotta appreciate a car's AC.

[loud spade]

Been saying that shit for 10 years

[old sedge]

Our old Toyota's engine got overhauled one time because they forgot to put the radiator cap back to its radiator when they did an hour drive.

[loud spade]

Radiators often break I feel like

It has happened to everyone I know except my dad

[old sedge]

How do I convince my mom to get a Ford instead?

Ooh

Ford has more powerful engine and more features.

[loud spade]

Ah I get that...

Old bastards gotta stick to their Toyotas

My dad went from Toyota to Toyota to Toyota

[old sedge]

She was like "Ford breaks down easily", I said "Ford itself says it's not true" and she's like "you dummy, of course they'll say that because no brand wants to admit their car's problems!"

But if I'm gonna buy a Ford, I would buy a Mustang or better, GT40.

[loud spade]

Yeah as I told you. They get too used to Toyotas they can’t make the change.

[old sedge]

Ford, Chevrolet and Dodge/Chrystler are my top choices in mass production cars.

You're right. In fact, it came from me.

After they said they want to replace their Mitsubishi van, I told them "how about a Toyota?"

Then they bought the Toyota van which I told you about, that 17 year old van.

[loud spade]

Funnily enough, my dad said he’d take an Opel as a change, 3 years later he started having issues and sold it right away. 2 months later, buyer calls him and says "Yo the car broke, you know what’s up?"

[old sedge]

If I live in a village full of people who own Mitsubishi and Chinese brand cars, I'll build a car repair shop there.

[loud spade]

Mhm that’s business right there

But man I loved that Opel

It had a single turbo V6

[old sedge]

Wow. Opel.

Wow, that's a nice engine.

And if that village really exists and I have a repair shop there, people there will instantly become regular customers.

Is Opel a luxury brand at a level of MB and BMW?

[loud spade]

It’ll get to the point you know what’s up juat from hearing the car

Not even close

[old sedge]

Oh

People here thik European cars are expensive.

But when I visited a Peugeot dealership, their cars are not even that pricey.

[loud spade]

He bought it for 11k USD. It’s a 2011 Opel insignia Sport Tourer. Had 35k km on it

Though he got it off his brother, might’ve got a good deal there

I almost never see Peugot here

People prefer Renault if we’re talking about French cars

[old sedge]

Oh. I never saw Renault though but I see Peugeots.

[loud spade]

I see people on horses or donkies more often

[old sedge]

Hahahahaha

[jagged sentinel]

Fords do have somewhat of a reputation for breaking down

[sage roost]

A coworker I know had to replace his lancer’s engine twice

It’s a 2014 lancer I believe

Not an evo

[main cosmos]

My ford has 180k km on it

Diesel is tough

[kind osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxOiiE9ViKM&ab_channel=terrificcool

This is a sad video

[regal berry]

dumb drivers, those paganis deserved better owners

[autumn timber]

The ultimate technical

Closely followed by this

[ocean rock]

1. Its the dealer's and DMV's decision if someone """"""Deserve that car"""""
2. The driver is definitely not dumb enough to not insure that.

[regal berry]

fck, forgot the insurance part lmao

[uncut saddle]

@ocean rock no Turkey

[ocean rock]

Time for chicken

[sage roost]

Heartbreaking

[vocal tide]

At least we don't have double header in France

[ocean rock]

Why not, that sounds great

2 weeks of me actually getting sleep on sunday

[ocean rock]

https://youtu.be/Lgp72j9T3GA

Why

[sage roost]

Subaru baja

[ocean rock]

https://wtf1.com/post/grosjeans-french-gp-mercedes-demonstration-is-no-longer-happening/

[loud spade]

[blissful lagoon]

I got the new bmw m3

lmao

[vocal tide]

at least he can still drive the car on the test

[analog radish]

Hmm

[uncut saddle]

[jagged sentinel]

Mf forgot he wasn't playing GTA anymore

[ocean rock]

well homie he got like 6+ years to realize

[flint viper]

Been working on my car 💪

[loud spade]

Grosjean got pole

[sage roost]

Beautiful

[hybrid charm]

thats hawt

[kind osprey]

Coom

[vocal tide]

Seems appropriate

https://youtu.be/mh0eDLn-OQ4 what the fuck did I just watch @ocean rock

[ocean rock]

Masterpiece

[main cosmos]

The fuck?

[hollow cobalt]

Murcury cougar

[analog radish]

Muurcury

[main cosmos]

https://sungsgarage.com/meet-dom-torettos-mid-engined-dodge-charger-from-fast-9/

[analog radish]

wha

[old sedge]

Does this feature really exist in real life?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F5PUl4j9KY

[jagged sentinel]

why

[ocean rock]

No car manufacturer would have the ball to put one on

Voice recognition exists for head unit controls yeah

But not car control.

A recorded voice or an almost same one done by ventriloquist can easily fool the system that car manufacturer can actually afford

And with advent of high definition voice recreation around the horizon

Itll be a firm no.

[tropic magnet]

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[uncut saddle]

McLaren one-off livery for Monaco

Petition to make this the standard livery pls

[loud spade]

It's beautiful

If they could be all this creative, why the hell did they stick with the same livery from last year

[uncut saddle]

The probably want to keep throwback liveries for special races

Which is a shame

[loud spade]

Mhm that's right

[uncut saddle]

How amazing would it be if Ricciardo manages to get a podium this race

Monaco really is his track after all

[loud spade]

Still could've done just a little change for this year's livery, especially that they also changed the engine supplier

[loud spade]

I hope so

[old sedge]

When I watched that movie for the first time, I thought it was really an awesome feature. 😅

[dry sage]

HOLY.

@uncut saddle Oh you already posted it.

[naive frigate]

any1 wanna trade i got ruiner 2000 deluxo modded vigilante oppresssor and more so dm me if you want to trade

[jagged sentinel]

!lfg @naive frigate

Idoit

[uncut saddle]

Oh I don't mind seeing that beauty again lmao @dry sage

[loud spade]

From different angles too

[sage roost]

Looks like a gulf livery

[narrow thistle]

thats literally what i was bouta say

i was like y does that remind me of gulf

[uncut saddle]

That's because it is

McLaren's relationship with Gulf Oil was renewed last July when they became a strategic partner

[ocean rock]

About as much gulf as Today's <insert purchased famous brands because they struggle after 2008 and got bought out in 2014>

[gray peak]

[ashen carbon]

Too bad we'll most likely never see the classic white-red Marlboro McLaren livery

[crystal tree]

GSX prototype

[dry sage]

Hnnnngh.

[loud spade]

Mmmm gorgeous

Take a look at that F1 GTR in the back 👀

It kills the 720s

[terse axle]

[sage roost]

https://youtu.be/KlSTvTuigbA

So basically, this is a ranger raptor that’s less offroady and is sold in the us..?

[jagged sentinel]

The ranger raptor isn't sold in the US?

[sage roost]

From what I’ve read, no

[jagged sentinel]

Interesting

[sage roost]

Why am I more interested in Doug reviewing family vehicles rather than hyper cars

[jagged sentinel]

I am too tbh

[sage roost]

The vehicles that I’m most interested in are the family sedans and SUVs that are powerful as fuck

Like the Durango hellcat or TRX

[jagged sentinel]

Same

[narrow thistle]

same

[ocean rock]

Oy yall ready for R A C E W E E K

[analog radish]

y e s

[jagged sentinel]

ok

So

[fresh gust]

challenger may still be a muscle car

its definitely not compact

[jagged sentinel]

Challenger was never a muscle car

It was always a pony car

[analog radish]

well the 1st gen was

mostly i mean

[jagged sentinel]

No it was a pony car then too

[fresh gust]

i think new challengers are muscle cars

[analog radish]

like im agreeing with you will

[jagged sentinel]

Chrysler marketed it as a more compact sporty car

[fresh gust]

theyre big, the v8s are giant, they make a TON of power

[jagged sentinel]

"it wasn't compact" it was and still is compact by Chrysler's standards

[fresh gust]

its compact compared to a 300

its still big though

i mean give an example of a modern "muscle" car

something that you wouldnt consider a pony car

[jagged sentinel]

There really isn't one

[fresh gust]

exactly

[jagged sentinel]

Closest we have is the dodge charger

[fresh gust]

pony car should be the new muscle car

camaro zl1 is a muscle car

[jagged sentinel]

No

Pony car

[fresh gust]

zl1 = muscle

[jagged sentinel]

It's a high-end trim package

[fresh gust]

well yeah

[jagged sentinel]

Of a pony car

[fresh gust]

[jagged sentinel]

You can make a camaro 1400 horsepower and it would still be a pony car

[fresh gust]

then whats a muscle car 😭

i refuse to consider a charger a muscle car

[jagged sentinel]

A full-sized, sporty-oriented vehicle with a big V8 and plenty of space

[fresh gust]

i feel like 2 door should be on there too

[jagged sentinel]

The Mitsubishi lancer Evo had 4 doors and it was still very much a sports car

Don't see how the charger is much different

Same with the impreza WRX

[fresh gust]

any car can be a sports car

toyota proved that with the gr yaris

[hollow cobalt]

[fresh gust]

hello blyatiful

[jagged sentinel]

The only thing about the new charger that's radically different from the old charger is the extra set of doors

[fresh gust]

and the fact that most of them dont have v8s

[jagged sentinel]

Product of the time

[fresh gust]

if we go by the logic that a base lancer isnt a sports car
but the evo is

then a v6 challenger isnt a muscle car
but a v8 one is

[jagged sentinel]

Challenger isn't...

[fresh gust]

charger i meant

[jagged sentinel]

Also

[fresh gust]

im a

[jagged sentinel]

The difference between the base lancer and the Lancer Evo are much more radical then that of the V6 vs V8 charger

[fresh gust]

not really

v6 is a commuter car, like the lancer

evo is a drivers car, like a v8 charger

[jagged sentinel]

They're extremely different from each other from a technical standpoint

That what I was referring to

[fresh gust]

ok, swap the evo with an sti

not as different

similar tech

[jagged sentinel]

V6 charger Vs V8 charger are just the same car with a different engine and trans

[fresh gust]

same car meaning same chassis?

[jagged sentinel]

When we get to the higher end packages for the charger is when we get some bigger differences

[fresh gust]

different lights, fender flares on the hellcat

larger wheels

[jagged sentinel]

Beefier drivetrain, different differential

[fresh gust]

yeah

[jagged sentinel]

The Nissan Skyline R34 we all know and tolerate also had a lower budget 4-doored commuter counterpart, yet the GTR is still considered a bonafide sports car pushing supercar

[fresh gust]

yeah

i was actually thinking that

[jagged sentinel]

BMW M5 is the top package of a low/mid-budget daily sedan, but the M5 is considered a sports car nonetheless

The ford focus RS is a super-cool variant of a boring compact 4-door hatchback

[fresh gust]

Yeah

[heady swift]

the wrx and sti are vastly different cars

[fresh gust]

So basically a charger is only a muscle car if it’s a v8

[jagged sentinel]

Thesis: why can't the charger even be thought of as a muscle car just because it has 4 doors and a boring option if all of these are okay?

[fresh gust]

Mmmmm same chassis

[heady swift]

both have very unique technologies

[jagged sentinel]

I mean hell

[fresh gust]

Let’s be honest, the wrx and sti are very very close

My brother has a wrx

Bugeye

[heady swift]

I mean to say evo and sti/wrx

[jagged sentinel]

The Buick Regal GNX only came in a V6 and it was almost as fast as a Lamborghini Countach

[fresh gust]

He’s planning on doing an sti swap

[fresh gust]

Regal isn’t even a muscle car though

[jagged sentinel]

Depends on who you ask

[fresh gust]

It’s a muscle car in a sense

[jagged sentinel]

I think it's either a muscle car or a pony car; it's one of the two

[fresh gust]

It’s a mix of the two

[jagged sentinel]

Which one it is specifically depends on who you ask

[fresh gust]

Sporty and plenty of space

But it’s got no v8

[heady swift]

what's exactly the difference between a pony and muscle car

[fresh gust]

Ask will

I’m too lazy to explain it

That and I’m making lunch

[jagged sentinel]

Pony car is basically a compact muscle car

That is a very very simplified explanation btw

[narrow thistle]

nice so

[jagged sentinel]

While muscle cars are full-sized, somewhat sporty-oriented vehicle with a big engine (most often a V8) and lots of space

[narrow thistle]

pony car = smol muskle kor

[fresh gust]

Lollll

[jagged sentinel]

Pony car is a compact (ish) sports car

They just happen to be most associated with V8s, they weren't defined by them

[heady swift]

so pony = less death hazard?

[narrow thistle]

yes

[fresh gust]

So a Mazda Autozam AZ-1 is a pony car?

[narrow thistle]

smol boye

[jagged sentinel]

Okay

[fresh gust]

I mean it’s sport oriented but not full size

[jagged sentinel]

So

The 1st gen mustang defined the pony car

That's where the name came from

[narrow thistle]

get it

[fresh gust]

Mustang = pony = horse

[narrow thistle]

bc mustang

pony

haha

hahahha

ha

ha..

[jagged sentinel]

And Chevy being Chevy, they came up with their competitor for the mustang

[fresh gust]

[jagged sentinel]

And Chrysler saw the market for them and came up with their entries

[fresh gust]

THE CAMARO IS AN ANIMAL THAT EATS MUSTANGGGSSSSS

[jagged sentinel]

I mean there are pony cars beyond the big 3

[fresh gust]

Yes yes

Does it have to be rwd

Does it have to be front engine

[jagged sentinel]

Front engine RWD happens to be the popular choice for the sporty vehicle across the board

[fresh gust]

But does a pony car require an FR layout

300zx is a pony car?

Literally any z is a pony car?

[jagged sentinel]

Pony cars were american

[fresh gust]

[jagged sentinel]

I can't really think if any FWD pony cars so

[fresh gust]

Ford probe

I mean

Kinda

[jagged sentinel]

That was a sports compact

So I guess so; pony cars are RWD

[fresh gust]

So pony cars have to be FR, American, sport oriented

Compact

Can’t cobalt be a pony car

[jagged sentinel]

So, about the "compact" thing

[fresh gust]

It can seat a family of 4

Coupe or sedan

[jagged sentinel]

It was marketed as "compact" back in the 60s

When cars were much bigger then they are now

[fresh gust]

Cobalt.. in the.. 60s?

[jagged sentinel]

No

Pony cars

[fresh gust]

Oh lmao

I almost shit myself 😂

[jagged sentinel]

I feel like "compact-ish" would have been used better

Cuz they're not big but they're not small either

[proper elbow]

The holy trinity
https://youtu.be/AIqANh0vraU

[loud spade]

McLaren F1 is the best road car ever made
Change my mind

[dire shard]

no luggage space

[loud spade]

Breh

get out

[sage roost]

Technically

There is a place where you could put luggage

As long as you don’t have someone with you

[arctic phoenix]

Isn't the f1 a 3 seater?

[sage roost]

Yes

Just put the luggage on the 2 empty seats

[arctic phoenix]

^ passenger can just take a taxi to the airport

[sage roost]

I doubt anyone would go to the airport.. in their F1

[edgy mirage]

Is this the car channel?

[sage roost]

Yes

Non gta cars

[loud spade]

Both guys get in the car, luggage goes in the Taxi

[arctic phoenix]

Where would they actually go that they need luggage space though, I doubt the f1 would be the daily 😂

[loud spade]

Then gets stolen

[edgy mirage]

Is a miata viable for a first car?

And also which one is the cheapest

[sage roost]

More of the Diablo SV that has a Diablo GTR spoiler

[arctic phoenix]

Depends will you ever have 3 people with you do you ever need to get bigger stuff like a TV in your car (so if this was your only car) @edgy mirage

[proper elbow]

Its safe to assume that if you have a 15-20 million F1, it's not your only car

Oh

[arctic phoenix]

👀 where he at tho

[edgy mirage]

No

[arctic phoenix]

Hmm I think it'd be fine

[edgy mirage]

I'm thinking a civic type r as a second choice

[jagged sentinel]

If you can find one

[edgy mirage]

Wdym

[sage roost]

For my first car I’m thinking a manual 350z

[jagged sentinel]

Read it

[proper elbow]

asks about a miata. Cheapest one
civic type r second choice

[jagged sentinel]

Never seen that exact thing before in a person

[arctic phoenix]

Same

[jagged sentinel]

/s

[sage roost]

Ah yes

I’m thinking about buying a Corolla

My second choice is a mclaren 720s

[arctic phoenix]

My first car is probably the most likely one here to be ripped into negatively 😂

[jagged sentinel]

I'm thinking about getting shitbox squarebody pickup
Second choice: Bugatti La Voiture Noire

[edgy mirage]

Pop up lights or an og general lee

[jagged sentinel]

On a serious note I do really want a squarebody pickup

[sage roost]

I lowkey want an FJ cruiser

[arctic phoenix]

Could probs still find some cheap

[sage roost]

Boxy, offroady (if that’s even a word), reliable

[proper elbow]

I've always thought FJs look really cool

[jagged sentinel]

There were so goddamn many if them made and the body style lasted like 20 or 30 years

[proper elbow]

Very unique styling

[arctic phoenix]

Iirc my mom has gotten 3 different ones for around 5k for all of them 1 was 3k iirc the other from 800 to 1500 and the 3rd was not great condition and was given away, sad story about that truck tho

[sage roost]

A family member bought a new FJ cruiser back in 2008

[edgy mirage]

What are some cheap shitbox cars I could upgrade over time

[sage roost]

He never took it to get maintenance

[jagged sentinel]

Literally any cheap shitbox car lel

[proper elbow]

Ford Probe, Focus SVT

[edgy mirage]

*good

[jagged sentinel]

I'm going to correct myself

[arctic phoenix]

Toyota yaris? Idfk

[edgy mirage]

JDM preferably

[arctic phoenix]

Are you in an area that sells jdm vehicles first?

Or you need to import tf

[edgy mirage]

Yes

[jagged sentinel]

Where do you live like what country

[edgy mirage]

No imports

[edgy mirage]

USA

[proper elbow]

Every japanese car on the road is JDM

[jagged sentinel]

Ok

Don't call them JDM first off

[arctic phoenix]

This mans...

[arctic phoenix]

I say this

[arctic phoenix]

And replied with this tf

[proper elbow]

Manufactured in Mexico, assembled in Argentina = JDM

[edgy mirage]

????

I'm kinda new to this k

[jagged sentinel]

Why would you pay scores of money just to import a japanese-spec car in shitbox condition when you could buy a US-spec version of that same car and upgrade it a lot for the same price of importing one

[arctic phoenix]

WTF does jdm mean to slump then? Name a jdm vehicle in your terms

[jagged sentinel]

Do you know what JDM means @edgy mirage

[edgy mirage]

A Japanese car

[jagged sentinel]

No

It's an acronym

[edgy mirage]

Apparently no

[jagged sentinel]

It means Japanese Domestic Market

Which are cars that were only sold in japan.

[edgy mirage]

Oohhhhhhhhhhhhh

[arctic phoenix]

And to get them here they'd have to imported which is why I asked about that part

[edgy mirage]

Oh ok

[jagged sentinel]

If you want a shitbox japanese car just get a 350z or miata

[heady swift]

350z can get pretty expensive

corolla all the way

[edgy mirage]

Nissan right

[jagged sentinel]

If it's in less-then-stellar condition

[jagged sentinel]

What

[edgy mirage]

Nissan 350z

[jagged sentinel]

Yes

No, the other 350z.

[arctic phoenix]

[heady swift]

d a t s u n

[arctic phoenix]

180z 👌

[edgy mirage]

Idk that much man I can only google so fast

[heady swift]

doesn't it go by fairlady in the americaninigans

[jagged sentinel]

Datsun didn't make the 350

[edgy mirage]

Well that's a new word

[jagged sentinel]

Nissan released it on all markets as a Nissan

[heady swift]

I know

[arctic phoenix]

I thought so but ive not seen any here in the states

[jagged sentinel]

I was being sarcastic

[arctic phoenix]

I've seen a "skyline" that was basically a g35

[jagged sentinel]

The Nissan fairlady Z does by the 240Z in the states

Because Nissan thought that the name "fairlady" wouldn't resonate with american buyers

And so the Americans got the Datsun 240z

[proper elbow]

You can get good a good condition 2006 350z for relatively cheap. The 2007 and 2008s are more expensive due to the revised HR engines

Weird link

[jagged sentinel]

Those early models are prone to transmission problems though so fair warning

[proper elbow]

They are also pretty reliable

Nah

I had a 2006 for 7 years and never had a problem with it

[jagged sentinel]

There was one particular trans option that was problem-prone

[arctic phoenix]

7 years from 06 is barely 13 that was 7 more years ago

[proper elbow]

I think it was the earlier model years, 03 and 04

[arctic phoenix]

Then again I'm driving something from 10 years ago

[jagged sentinel]

I'm driving something from 18 years ago

[sage roost]

Is it the camaro?

[jagged sentinel]

No I can't drive stick

[arctic phoenix]

Is it prone to blow a head gasket

[jagged sentinel]

No

Wrong hemisphere

[arctic phoenix]

Mine is

[jagged sentinel]

I wouldn't daily drive the Camaro even if I could drive stick tbh

[proper elbow]

Fuck I miss it

I loved those headlights

[jagged sentinel]

I'm surprised you remember farxxs

[arctic phoenix]

I sure af won't miss my car 😂 if I get rid of it

[arctic phoenix]

Hawt

[jagged sentinel]

305 ci I69 V8, 5-speed manual

[proper elbow]

totally forgot about this piece of shit. Bought it for $200 and never managed to get it running right.

[edgy mirage]

I just found a used 1994 MX-5 for $3,995

[jagged sentinel]

There are less of these cars in existence then Porsche 918 spyders

[arctic phoenix]

👀 and yet I know of one just sitting just dirty af

[edgy mirage]

That looks ugly to me

[jagged sentinel]

80s styling

[arctic phoenix]

I bet I can top your ugly scale then

[edgy mirage]

Is that a mustang?

[jagged sentinel]

No it's a camaro

The one time the camaro of the era was better then the mustang

[arctic phoenix]

Did the svo 80s mustang be better or was that into the 90s

[edgy mirage]

I bet the mustang still looked better if not bleach my eyes

[arctic phoenix]

Aight I'm finding a pic of what I drive online then

[jagged sentinel]

That was the reworked foxbody in '90, so doesn't really count

[edgy mirage]

WAIT YOU DRIVE THING PLEASE GOD DON'T TELL ME ITS A DAILY

[jagged sentinel]

The Camaro was way more in tune with the times

[jagged sentinel]

Wait

This?

[arctic phoenix]

You can't tell me this in red is better than the 80s Camaro

[arctic phoenix]

Something among those lines

[jagged sentinel]

This thing had an I4...

[arctic phoenix]

Ye sunk in headlights Vs lining the hood
Isn't there an svo version of it though?

I'm finna grab a Ford book I have I swear

[jagged sentinel]

That is the SVO

[edgy mirage]

What's up with the 80s and shoved in head lights

[arctic phoenix]

[jagged sentinel]

86

[arctic phoenix]

Lemme go check the book xd

[jagged sentinel]

It looked awful

Why have the indicators pushed forward but the actual front lamps inset

[arctic phoenix]

Wowee it actually did have a inline 4

[edgy mirage]

That's like having a super bright flash light and putting a shroud over it

[jagged sentinel]

The reason I say the camaro was better was because it was generally better as a vehicle

The foxbody mustang in its early years was unreliable, poorly made, mad poor gas mileage even by pony car standards

[arctic phoenix]

A whopping 205 at best 😂

[jagged sentinel]

And it was turbo'd

[edgy mirage]

But the consumer has eyes too nobody would buy such an abomination even if its was better performance wise

[jagged sentinel]

People bought them

There were as many camaros made as mustangs

Which is to say 1.2 million

[arctic phoenix]

The same or or pretty close to same engine from them made 90 hp no turbo

[jagged sentinel]

And excuse you, beauty is in the eye of the beholder

Back in the 80s that styling was in

See Lamborghini Countach, see Ferrari Testarossa

Not Enzo not Enzo

[edgy mirage]

Yeah you're right but I still wouldn't buy it even to filp it

[arctic phoenix]

Aight I'm done with this book Dusty af

[jagged sentinel]

My dad was able to find near-mint condition shop/dealership Manual for the 87 model year of Camaro

[blissful lagoon]

Update on this lil shit

guy wants 475 car and title

[proper elbow]

Is it complete

[blissful lagoon]

i wanna talk him down to 200

[jagged sentinel]

300 max

[blissful lagoon]

All it needs is a roof and its alright

they took the perfectly fine roof and put it on another miata

[jagged sentinel]

It could probably use a bit of everything

[arctic phoenix]

They couldn't even clean it and move it?

[blissful lagoon]

and covered it

[blissful lagoon]

Interior is the major issue

yet it really isn't major issues

just the window crank on the passenger side don't work :/

[jagged sentinel]

The window crank doesn't work?

Damn then you really know it's bad

[arctic phoenix]

Do the pop-ups pop-up tho

[proper elbow]

As long as the engine turns over it might be a good buy

[blissful lagoon]

It starts it just runs hot and these people don't know what to do so they just sat it

[jagged sentinel]

My 87 camaro has more features then my 2003 F150

[blissful lagoon]

probably a really simplr fix

if it runs hot

i know the NAs have bad temp issues

[arctic phoenix]

Inb4 reroute kit and new water pump

[proper elbow]

clean it, strip the interior, throw some new seats in and sell it to a boy racer for $2500

[blissful lagoon]

Lmao i hope not

[blissful lagoon]

Ew no i ain't letting them touch this they already ruin enough of these

[jagged sentinel]

The Camaro has: power windows, power seats, power mirrors, aftermarket Bluetooth radio and USB port, 4 seats

[arctic phoenix]

Couldn't a head gasket make it run hot

[jagged sentinel]

My truck has: AWD

[blissful lagoon]

They said they fixed that so i know it can't be that

[arctic phoenix]

I don't like having power stuff if it breaks I get spooked by what could have broke

[jagged sentinel]

They've yet to fail on the camaro

[arctic phoenix]

Then again I have a solar roof so :/

[blissful lagoon]

Im bouta get paid 400 for a tahoe transmission job anyway so new old shitbox miata soon

[jagged sentinel]

To be fair

[blissful lagoon]

nugget miata

[jagged sentinel]

That camaro has never seen snow and avoided rain like the plague

[arctic phoenix]

Golden nugg

[jagged sentinel]

Yet still has 130K

[sage roost]

Was it daily driven

[jagged sentinel]

Yes

[arctic phoenix]

Avoiding rain and being on the pavement only seeing how ur area looks keeps it clean af

[jagged sentinel]

This is in Michigan by the way

[arctic phoenix]

My area would have naturally made it deteriorate and it rarely rains

[jagged sentinel]

It sat in an air conditioned humidity-controlled garage in the winter

[arctic phoenix]

Das noice

[jagged sentinel]

I joke that the car was the guy's wife, but there might be some truth to that

[arctic phoenix]

I guess he didn't wear a wife beater ey

[jagged sentinel]

He was a cop

[arctic phoenix]

[jagged sentinel]

This is the engine bay

[arctic phoenix]

Very clean 👌

Ngl just having a car outside here gets the engine bay dirty because of dirt/dust

[jagged sentinel]

In Michigan

Obviously it rains, right

But it snows here in the winter a lot too

Which means water which means rust

But on top of that (literally) there is the salt that gets put on the roads

[arctic phoenix]

Yeee, I know a few people who go to Michigan they go when it's not wet or snowing tho :p

[jagged sentinel]

And on top of that (or rather below it) there's Michigan's distinctively terrible roads

[arctic phoenix]

All that comes to mind is the roads in my town in the housing sections of the town

[jagged sentinel]

Anyone who is from or has stayed in Michigan will agree that the roads are fucking terrible

[sage roost]

Roads are nice here

[arctic phoenix]

I drop down to 15mph if I'm not wasting time and if I wanted a smooth ride maybe 12 😂

[sage roost]

Maybe because literally every single road was redone

[jagged sentinel]

The government doesn't use our taxes to fix the roads

It's the municipalities' job to pay to fix the roads

And because they're municipalities and they have better things to spend money on, the roads don't get fixed

[arctic phoenix]

My town makes awful decisions when they fix roads, they fixed mine completely and not even a month into having the road they put humps in it by running city sewer out here

Literally ruined the road and made it worse than it was before it was redone

[jagged sentinel]

TL;DR government bad cool car stupid

[arctic phoenix]

Cool car = bad to have due to roads
My sister came to visit and bent her rim 😂

[jagged sentinel]

This is (not an up-to-date picture of) my truck

Look at them tires

[arctic phoenix]

31s?

[jagged sentinel]

Don't remember

I think around there tho

Mf has not stopped leaking since I got it

[arctic phoenix]

Leaking wot

[jagged sentinel]

Trans fluid I think

[arctic phoenix]

D:

[proper elbow]

On a ford, that's how you know it still has fluid

[sage roost]

Beefy tires

[jagged sentinel]

[proper elbow]

Worry when it stops leaking

[arctic phoenix]

At least you know it's a leak, a car here has been eating trans fluid

[jagged sentinel]

For a Michigan car you wouldn't believe it's condition based on the vehicle's mileage

But it isn't a Michigan car

[sage roost]

Found a ‘16 focus ST for $15k

[arctic phoenix]

I'd imagine since I have a Colorado truck and it's rust is way worse than a vehicle 14 years older than it from Texas

[jagged sentinel]

This truck is an Alabama truck

So rust is is not a thing over there

[arctic phoenix]

I forget if Alabama is a wet state or not

[jagged sentinel]

It's on the coast so

[sage roost]

We used to take our LS400 on long road trips

And boy did it have a lot of rust when we took it to get something fixed

I think it was the transmission

[jagged sentinel]

I should hit my dad's truck with the scantool

That my neighbor just randomly gave me when I went drop something off

[arctic phoenix]

Do et u wont

Also I need to install a beeper or some shiz for my car the dogs are idiots

[sage roost]

https://youtu.be/BqDiWhlwrZ4

Our Lexus was the exact same spec

Except the interior is black rather than beige

It had 500k miles before we sold it

[kind osprey]

holy shit

[sage roost]

I know right

[lavish helm]

i live in michigan, can confirm, roads are terrible

[fresh gust]

Kinda wanted an LS400 for a while 😂

Then I found out they’re really hard to find in good condition/<200000mi.

[sage roost]

We bought it when it was brand new in 1990

Sold it in 2018

[analog radish]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mPmCDS66Qc

hmm

[hybrid charm]

hi pls run me over

[uncut saddle]

God it's so ugly

[heady swift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fciK6WS-pSU&ab_channel=katsuobushibu

after you dropped off the kids at school

[formal ocean]

yo my dad has like a old lexus man

suv

[formal ocean]

gx470 my dad has probs like 2006 or 2007

[ocean rock]

@mint plank

🥺

[mint plank]

Pls

🥺

[hybrid charm]

i was tagged

[narrow thistle]

i said weird kink? and then deleted

[delicate grotto]

@hybrid charm pain

[polar kayak]

i like planes

[jagged sentinel]

@cunning badger

[cunning badger]

Huh

Oh

Damnnnn

[pastel tiger]

Im not racist

I drive a car

[hybrid charm]

wow you drive a ford camper nice

[analog radish]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQnCH7iUda8

quite identical to the speedtail

the front

couldve done this toyota

[dire shard]

i really don't get it

this doesn't look good

i'm not saying the a90 looks great, it could use with looking more like the ft-1

but this whole thing about making it look like the a80 never works

that grille looks mega stupid, the a80-style spoiler doesn't work with the rear that the a90 has so the entire rear has to be redesigned to make the spoiler look better

really, i get it, the a90 doesn't look great
but combining the design language from two cars twenty years apart isn't going to make the car look any better
that is rarely ever the case, the only good case of retro-styling in cars that i can think of is the a110

you want to allude to the a80, sure here you go, there's the stylized supra badge for your nostalgia, here's a similar profile body
but not a smiley grille and the spoiler, not making it smooth while the rest of toyota's current-day lineup is sharp

[sage roost]

I honestly don’t like how modernized cars look

Like cars that were old but were redesigned to look more modern

[dire shard]

what, like resto-mods

[sage roost]

No

Something similar to that F1 redesign James may posted

[dire shard]

i would put it down to the same thing

[dire shard]

shoehorning modern design into old design, or shoving old design into modern design

it clashes

you can't just "take the best of both" because what you end up with is something that looks completely out of place in either back then or now

[sage roost]

Exactly

[dire shard]

that f1 redesign doesn't look horrible though, other than the stupid speedtail headlights

the speedtail headlights work on the speedtail because it was designed for the speedtail, you can't just pluck it off the speedtail and stick it on something else

[sage roost]

I don’t like the lack of a front grille either

[dire shard]

the entire front is weak

also the redesign doesn't have windshield wipers

lol

[sage roost]

https://www.reddit.com/r/IdiotsInCars/comments/nfrgcp/someones_getting_fired/

....

Painful to watch

[dire shard]

the (transport truck)driver had no idea how a manual car worked and didnt leave it in gear or have the handbrake on when he attempted to unload them

how do you get a job delivering cars, when you don't know how to drive cars

[loud spade]

How’d even get a license

You shouldn’t get your license if you can’t drive both manual and automatic

[pastel tiger]

Im not racist

[pastel tiger]

No i drive a Phantom or as gta players say, a Super Diamond

[ashen carbon]

Auto-only license is a thing.

[loud spade]

I do know

[sage roost]

But

How did he get in a job delivering cars with an auto only license?

[loud spade]

Good point

[sage roost]

Here’s the aftermath of that F-type

https://imgur.com/gallery/iYiKYEC

[dire shard]

needing to know both isn't something most people require in daily life

as long as you know one, the cars you buy are probably going to be that one
most people aren't getting into the driver seat of other people's cars

when it comes to driving multiple different cars as your job, though, that should be a tested requirement before even being hired

[hybrid charm]

yo imagine if they made a flying dildo vehicle

[analog radish]

shitposty

[dire shard]

can you de-say that, i've lost a number of braincells

[hybrid charm]

[narrow night]

do people genuinely think this looks pretty

[sage roost]

No

[narrow night]

maybe it's fast and is expensive but this looks like a gaming mouse

as a car

[jagged sentinel]

It cost over 100 million to make that

[narrow night]

ok and it still looks ugly lol

[jagged sentinel]

It does

It has the same stealth paint that stealth fighter jets use

For seemingly no other reason then just because

[blissful lagoon]

I heard somewhere the amg gt and jag f type is a muscle car, this true?

Always thought they were sports cars

or gran tourers

[jagged sentinel]

They aren't

AMG GT is more like the viper then any muscle car

The F-type... Well it's just a grand tourer that happens to have a V8

[blissful lagoon]

Ahhh

[jagged sentinel]

They don't really have any muscle car lineage

[blissful lagoon]

someone earlier waa trying to tell me otherwise just making sure

i mean

the amg gt does kinda have GT in the name

[jagged sentinel]

V8s just so happen to be a popular choice for performance cars

[jagged sentinel]

Lots of cars do

[blissful lagoon]

True

but the amg for what it is the GT does kinda make sense in the name

[jagged sentinel]

Kinda an unimaginative name, even by Mercades standards

[blissful lagoon]

Oh

[jagged sentinel]

At least in my opinion

[blissful lagoon]

I don't know much about merc

so i can't really tell anything about them

[jagged sentinel]

They have something similar to BMW but it's even more confusing

It's all just sequences of letters that resemble acronyms but don't mean anything and numbers

At least BMW's naming tells you something about a given car

[blissful lagoon]

I do need some irl help tho with a car

in particular a 92 na

it there supposed to be a sheet of metal bolted above the holes under where the soft top sits?

Seems kinda odd for that to be their

[dire shard]

i know somebody who loves how that looks

to me, it's a literal hotwheel

if you like that style, then sure

he also likes the fk8, so i guess he just likes things with lots of creases

[loud spade]

That's something 8 year old me would want to buy from that very expensive shop that has car toys

[hybrid charm]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/COwBw0Cp555/?utm_medium=copy_link

[dire shard]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ATBGE/comments/nfy4kj/kinda_looks_like_a_fidget_spinner/

[proper elbow]

The madlad is rebuilding Monster Max

Now with missiles

$20 says he still manages to break the new axles

[ocean rock]

How much would it cost to rebuild Sainte Devote?

Gotta know so i can start gofundme when mazepin inevitably destroys it from spinning

[uncut saddle]

My god that McLaren livery

It's so, so good

[sage roost]

Are you talking about the gulf one

[uncut saddle]

Yes

[sage roost]

I agree

[uncut saddle]

C'mon Daniel

Gotta do better than 14th

[ocean rock]

wat

is it quali now?

[loud spade]

No

FP1

It's over already

[hybrid charm]

lol if only you knew

[narrow thistle]

LMAOOO

[narrow thistle]

https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/19/22442777/ford-f-150-lightning-electric-truck-specs-price

thatll take a moment to get used to

40k isnt bad at all tho

for 300 miles of range

[analog radish]

okayge

[hollow cobalt]

[delicate grotto]

Yeh

Maverick good

[analog radish]

i like the new 4 door charger

[delicate grotto]

oooo

[hollow cobalt]

How much for mustang 429 boss @fresh gust?

[delicate grotto]

@hollow cobalt too much

[hollow cobalt]

[analog radish]

its practical and still gives the joy of a challenger

[hollow cobalt]

How about the cougar?

[delicate grotto]

But consider a vega if you wanna consider chevy

[fresh gust]

forty too much thousand dollars

[hollow cobalt]

Nvm

[fresh gust]

this is much sex

[delicate grotto]

@hollow cobalt funny man buy a king cobra if you want cheap american sex

[fresh gust]

it has a 351 and a 6 speed

[fresh gust]

mustang ii