the hood scoops look far better than the fuckshit the wrx sti has
#transportation
blissful lagoon
have you seen the double scoop on the redeye challenger?
Or the "AIRGRABBER" the demon has
Big girthy thing
blissful lagoon
Yes that
restive junco
tbh what hood scoops should look like
restive junco
vs this thing like
blissful lagoon
built to dominate the quarter mile
blissful lagoon
Blob scoop for blob car
restive junco
this is like aftermarket on a 2015+ wrx but this looks way better
blissful lagoon
Yea looks way better imo
kind osprey
Nah the old Subaru forever. What an amazing small car to throw around on a rally run
Especially the rally colors with those rims
Gorgeous
restive junco
I like literally everything about it except the hood scoop tbh
kind osprey
That is like a staple of the sti
restive junco
I get it but like I just wish it was like shorter or more forward or more like a part of the hood vs an engineering afterthought
kind osprey
It isn’t an afterthought, usually the things people think are ugly are the things that are the most efficient.
Aero and efficiency doesn’t always mask up in a pretty shell
the senna is a good example
restive junco
whats so ugly about this the wing?
kind osprey
Everyone seems to just dislike the way the senna looks
I don’t mind it but I also realize that everything on that car is for downforce
restive junco
I realize the sti hood scoop is for engine cooling
still think it could have looked a bit better
maybe extend the scoop forward and lower it a bit idk
kind osprey
This is probably my favorite scoop, closest one you’ll get to an f1 car unless you get something like a BAC or a KTM
restive junco
thing abt like the really nice scoops is that they sorta are molded to the bodywork of the car to not look incredibly obvious I guess
or well theyre always obvious but not like bulbous
shouldnt look like a growth coming off the hood
kind osprey
You pay $30k-200k for a roof scoop it better dam be obvious lol
restive junco
should look like part of the car
kind osprey
The 600lt’s is super nice
restive junco
yea that does look nice
kind osprey
It stills has the back window so the air actually diverges into two paths around the back window
It makes such a beautiful sound when you are in the cabin
But it’s like $60,000 in option packages just to equip it
restive junco
i will say tho abt the wrx the stock hood scoop on the 2015+ is also pretty bad
prob hate it a little more
eh actually
nah its fine
i hate the 04 one more
wouldnt stop me from owning either
blissful lagoon
Hood scoops?
restive junco
yeah but thats like a 60s muscle car and the scoop isnt in that awkward space between being too small and too big
blissful lagoon
Nope
restive junco
sorry 70s or smth? idk
blissful lagoon
Also it is purpose built for drag racing from factory
nope your right 68
Basically 70s
I mean yep instead of nope
Remember i have the iq of a brain dead rock
boreal oak
Drained the oil from the escort
found a spare in the trunk
so now I have two wheels
vast night
I don’t have one
hollow cobalt
OOf
vast night
there is one pic tho
hollow cobalt
Shame
vast night
but i don’t recognize the car
boreal oak
next week ima try to get the escort running.
hollow cobalt
vast night
bit of a bad pic I quickly hopped off my motorcycle and took pic
boreal oak
its a C3
vast night
ahh
boreal oak
hollow cobalt
bit of a bad pic I quickly hopped off my motorcycle and took pic
What bike do you have?
boreal oak
I recognize it from the weird shell design roof it has
vast night
Z400
hollow cobalt
Nice bike you got 
vast night
ty
Gotta sell it tho cause I don’t fit on it 💀
im pretty tall and it’s pretty small
hollow cobalt
How tall are you?
vast night
About 190
hollow cobalt
boreal oak
jesus
hollow cobalt
Gimme 5cm pls
vast night
happily
hollow cobalt
I want to be 180 ;-;
vast night
Maybe I’d fit in cars then
boreal oak
Im a good 6-7 CM shorter
hollow cobalt
I'm 177
hollow cobalt
I wanted to be tall, but my parents are not that tall
How old are you @boreal oak ? 22?
boreal oak
16
vast night
I’d rather be like 180 something
hollow cobalt
16
:C
Why don't you really tell me :C
If you don't want to, I won't ask you more.
boreal oak
I am legitimately 16, I may as well be 20 however
hollow cobalt
That's kinda ironic
boreal oak
How so
uncut saddle
honestly, being tall sucks ass
hollow cobalt
I thought you're more than 20 cause your voice sounded deep(?)
uncut saddle
can't even fit in a Lotus ffs
boreal oak
I thought you're more than 20 cause your voice sounded deep(?)
Perks of african genetics
hollow cobalt
Being short suck ass
vast night
honestly, being tall sucks ass
It does, there’s a selection of cars I want to own but they would get so fucking uncomfortable
boreal oak
It does, there’s a selection of cars I want to own but they would get so fucking...
buy a durango 
hollow cobalt
I want to be a 180
uncut saddle
I'm 196 cm so many sports cars are just very uncomfortable for me
vast night
Can’t afford dodge 😂
boreal oak
I can't drive yet however
uncut saddle
luckily the 240z appears to be a perfect fit
hollow cobalt
Are you sure about that @boreal oak
uncut saddle
that's all that matters
uncut saddle
hollow cobalt
240z is awesome
boreal oak
ATM i'm trying to get brakes and new wheels
hollow cobalt
uncut saddle
god yes
hollow cobalt
ATM i'm trying to get brakes and new wheels
You said you can't drive 
boreal oak
that won't stop me from fixing the hunka junk in my garage.
uncut saddle
doesn't matter how long it'll take, I'll own a 240z
boreal oak
the Z line shouldn't be too hard to fine
hollow cobalt
doesn't matter how long it'll take, I'll own a 240z
Get the widebody one C:
uncut saddle
they're rare here, sadly
hollow cobalt
they're rare here, sadly
I never seen it here.
boreal oak
Skylines are dirt common here
uncut saddle
probably have to get it imported
boreal oak
I see atleast one R35 a week
hollow cobalt
In our country, we don't see that much nissan
boreal oak
Also i discovered a painful problem with my escort
Its been sitting so long the wheels have rotted away
hollow cobalt
I hope to see some awesome cars on our country
uncut saddle
oof
hollow cobalt
Guess where I'm from?
hollow cobalt
Nah
I named myself like russian, bc I like the accent but I'm not.
You guys are all Americans?
hollow cobalt
Ruddi seems to be
uncut saddle
god the 240z I saw in the showroom was so damn comfortable
vast night
on god?
uncut saddle
n korea?
hollow cobalt
Jk, I'm from S.korea
vast night
ah alr
uncut saddle
hollow cobalt
vast night
Man you got me crazy for a sec thought you guys didn’t have internet
hollow cobalt
LMFAO
uncut saddle
probably breaking at least 10 different laws by being in here
hollow cobalt
I heard that they have the internet but only a few of em.
vast night
Only a few so kim jong uns family
hollow cobalt
Um the price is kinda high
uncut saddle
that's why I have to win the lottery first lmao
if that's not the case, I'm buying a normal 240z
in like, 20 years
uncut saddle
oh that's awesome too
hollow cobalt
Can you take a picture of em if you see it?
uncut saddle
will do! (once covid leaves us alone)
hollow cobalt
Send a pics here and ping me! C:
hollow cobalt
uncut saddle
Too bad the driver didn't feel like going on track that day
hollow cobalt
omg a mamb- I mean a shelby cobra
uncut saddle
hollow cobalt
boreal oak
What about <@!509947411825950740> ?
Sorry i was making cheese toasties
boreal oak
You guys are all Americans?
Naw
uncut saddle
hollow cobalt
That mclaren got some driving skills, he got the chrome unlocked.
uncut saddle
lmao
hollow cobalt
Dang bro that's sickk
uncut saddle
later that day a Veyron decided to show up as well
hollow cobalt
RR phantom is the expensivest car that I've seen irl
Nvm, the lamborghini avantador svj is the highest
hollow cobalt
shame I can't get tickets for f1 this year
uncut saddle
never really been a big aventador fan
uncut saddle
my very favorite
uncut saddle
advertising their services
uncut saddle
once covid is behind us, it's my mission to spot a Senna somewhere
hollow cobalt
I'm never gonna see a senna in my life
uncut saddle
don't be so negative!
hollow cobalt
I'll try...
hybrid charm
I'm never gonna see a senna in my life <:peepoSadSip:585628416242614303>
Buy a plane ticket to dubai
hollow cobalt
I'll think of it after corona ends.
hybrid charm
Fair
mossy mesa
One se von sevon
jagged sentinel
Yaes
wispy hornet
What’s the best car in the game
jagged sentinel
@wispy hornet is this about GTA
wispy hornet
What’s the best car in gta
stuck owlBOT
jagged sentinel
Go to the GTA channels
blissful lagoon
Hot
mossy mesa
Shot
kind osprey
The la Ferrari handles better than a p1
I haven’t seen a p1 in a while because of covid but here is one getting photo bombed by a Chiron
I love the way it looks
mossy mesa
A Matte black P1 at night is a thing of Alien beauty
jagged sentinel
How much extra did it cost
kind osprey
idk my guess is probably like $300,000
and I think it was a one off mso spec too no one else can order it
mossy mesa
The matte carbon fiber one?
yeah manny owns it
that thing looks like a civil but crazy bat mo bel
and its not even completely dark
hybrid charm
A sad day for car guys
lapis jolt
Wtf happened
lapis jolt
What’s the best car in gta
Depends
dry sage
Wtf happened
An earthquake in Japan.
ocean rock
royal gulch
2021 Lotus Elise Sport 240 Final Edition
2021 Lotus Exige Sport 390 Final Edition
2021 Lotus Exige Sport 420 Final Edition
damn lotus
3 editions
hybrid charm
supra or nothing
ocean rock
Mk4 Supra is overhyped and its only reason for it to be that good is just because 2JZ is way too much of a cheese to tune
kind osprey
I like the way the good supra looks, but I prefer something like an s15 Silvia or an fd rx7
ocean rock
Also, may i introduce you to 3JZ?
Aka that mk5 supra engine people just discredit because iSsA bMw
kind osprey
Also, may i introduce you to 3JZ?
It’s called the b58😔
ocean rock
😔
but still
fucking hell, all b58 need is just a beeg turbo, bigger fuel injector, and better piston
and its 1000hp
2JZ would still need a rebuild regardless, especially cooling side
kind osprey
It won’t fix the body but fast is fast so give it a shot
kind osprey
Whoever designed that thing needs to seek different employment
ocean rock
I wish there is a service to make those vents actually functional
like legit
make it a real thing
kind osprey
It’s like Toyata made a Miata without any perks of having the ability to take the roof off
Might as well get a z4
ocean rock
It’s like Toyata made a Miata without any perks of having the ability to take th...
and enough hood length to rest the entire california's homeless population
like lets talk about that hood
kind osprey
That’s what happens when you put an inline six in something the size of a smart car
What were they thinking with that god dam car
proper elbow
Going through old pics. The two vehicles I should have never sold
kind osprey
No back seats, no airflow, no cool cosmetics, and we gave it the same amount of power it had 24 years ago
WHAT AN UPGRADE TOYOTA
If you can call it a Toyota
At least the r35 and the nsx still compete with their original competitors
And are real supercars
More so the nsx than the r35 since they made so god dam many
blissful lagoon
What is the length of the mk5 supra engine bay?
kind osprey
No clue but it definitely doesn’t win any award for being proportionate with the rest of the car
ocean rock
At least the r35 and the nsx still compete with their original competitors
R35 wasnt slapping the face of what makes it good though
R34 was at a premium as it was back then
but NSX was a cheap supercar... and they made the reboot 100k.
kind osprey
In what world was the Honda nsx cheap
proper elbow
The new NSX seems to have faded into obscurity since its release
kind osprey
With inflation the prices add up
ocean rock
In what world was the Honda nsx cheap
old timey 
i dont talk rn, im talking on release
kind osprey
Between actual inflation of currency, along with the inflation that cars have seen due to regulations, better tech, and safety
blissful lagoon
Does this seem to fit anything bigger than a v6?
kind osprey
old timey <:kekwhat:803048990387339264>
Ok, on release, in what world was the Honda nsx cheap
ocean rock
kind osprey
It isn’t a v6 so yea it can
ocean rock
Does this seem to fit anything bigger than a v6?
v8? 
everything can fit a v8
ls swap everything
blissful lagoon
I don't think it would fit that well without deleting some leg room 
Course i was think 4 liter v8 maybe
proper elbow
An LS is like 27" long. The 2J is 28".
heady swift
or you can be efficient and just use a smaller engine
proper elbow
No idea how long the new I6 is
But you can fit most anything with enough time, money, and massaging
blissful lagoon
Extended the frontal area on it would be interesting
blissful lagoon
Course with enough money time and salvage McLaren 720s a McLaren swaped supra would be neato
proper elbow
I mean, that ferrari swapped brz exists
blissful lagoon
Im not a fan of McLaren tho but its the smallest v8 i could think of
kind osprey
It’s also almost the least reliable
blissful lagoon
True
kind osprey
And fairly subpar on it’s own that swap would just be burning money
It’s benefit is weight
That’s about it
blissful lagoon
course apparently it does have a shit ton of power
blissful lagoon
Fuck thats right its not NA
kind osprey
Nothing is nowadays
proper elbow
You'd be able to hit well over the 720s' hp with a LS for a lot less $
blissful lagoon
Do people do LS swapped mk5 supras or is it still mostly JZ
kind osprey
Are factors
proper elbow
Aluminum block LS motors arent that heavy
kind osprey
People swap rx7’s because they either want to drift them or the rotary they came with wasn’t well maintained, ls swapping a supra is asking to get bullied
blissful lagoon
Well than what about one of them R35 engines that everyone loves to add 1000+HP builds for?
Still Japanese
kind osprey
If I’m paying $300,000 plus for a car that engine is staying there’s no reason to downgrade
blissful lagoon
Correction, even more Japanese
kind osprey
I don’t really hear about r35’s getting tuned to 1000hp
proper elbow
Wait who's talking about swapping the engine in to a mclaren
kind osprey
Wait who's talking about swapping the engine in to a mclaren
Hopefully no one
blissful lagoon
I was saying swap that 710 HP 4.0L v8 from McLaren into a supra but not the other way if that's what you meant
course not new McLaren
salvage obviously
kind osprey
Even then why would you put it in a car with an engine that can already easily make that power
Put the mclaren engine into a kit car or something
proper elbow
Put it in a fiero
blissful lagoon
Baby mclaren?
hell yea
Cause you can find a fiero for dirt cheap
Thank god no one likes them after 100K miles
proper elbow
No one likes burning to death
blissful lagoon
Bet it can do some great wheelies
Actually probably not with that suspension
Needs something like this
restive junco
is that like an apocolypse miata
gilded kelp
Looks like a saab car
blissful lagoon
Its an Austin healy or something like that
Its somethin austin
Its a 1959 austin healy sprite "frogeye" gasser
kind osprey
No one likes burning to death
The 1988 model was the only good fiero
the rest were the fire monkeys
restive junco
kinda into the hot rod miata
blissful lagoon
Its unique at least
ocean rock
Damn, now i want a 5.0 caterham.
hybrid charm
old sedge
Is there any Italian car which is affordable and for mass production or all their cars are expensive?
dry sage
Lancia is Italian, afaik.
dry sage
Yeah, I confused the two with each other.
old sedge
The Italian brands I know are expensive and Bugatti is no longer Italian.
heady swift
Is there any Italian car which is affordable and for mass production or all thei...
italian cars are usually cheap
sure ferrari, pagani and lamborghini is expensive
but lancia has always been an odd brand, proving cheap cars
classic alfa romeo's are super expensive (same with lancia's), but basic models are quite frankly cheap
especially second-hand
but italian cars have always been known for their shitty build-quality and that they break very often, especially alfa
https://www.marktplaats.nl/a/auto-s/alfa-romeo/m1651811091-alfa-romeo-mito-1-4-2009-apk-tot-eind-aug-2021.html?previousPage=lr https://www.marktplaats.nl/a/auto-s/alfa-romeo/m1664304768-alfa-romeo-giulietta-1-6-jtdm-distinctive-bj-2012-exportprij.html?previousPage=lr https://www.marktplaats.nl/a/auto-s/alfa-romeo/m1653866055-alfa-romeo-159-sportwagon-2-2-jts-automaat.html?previousPage=lr
these are some models under 7K
hybrid charm
Pretty ugly
old sedge
italian cars are usually cheap
Ooh and I forgot about Alfa Romeo.
heady swift
fiats are awful cars
restive junco
i mean probably
heady swift
my mother and grandmother have owned three fiats
the 500 has absolutely no room and the panda is honestly terrible compared to a vw polo or renault megane
vw and volvo all day and every day
restive junco
iirc my dad leased a 500 as a commuter car but he didnt rly need room
he needed to be able to park a car on the street
and put a suitcase inside somewhere
so ig it worked but that shit was yote as soon as the lease expired
heady swift
I mean it's an option if you don't have any choice, but there are so many other alternatives
restive junco
for tiny ass commuter cars?
id imagine microscopic city cars are an unpopular segment in the states
who wants a kei car even if they live in nyc like
u either have no car or a g class merc
or whatever the suv is i thought a g class didnt look like that
heady swift
as for three door cars, you can have a vw up, mini cooper, toyota yaris, opel corsa, peugeot 108, etc
but three-door hatchback segment is dying in Europe
the preference for five door hatchbacks, cross-overs and suv's is growing significantly
restive junco
I can buy a mini cooper or I can buy like, a subaru impreza
heady swift
impreza's are significantly bigger than most mini coopers
unless you're looking at a countryman
why
restive junco
thw vw up practically does not exist in the us
the toyota yaris (which tbh is actually a good car) also doesnt exist in the us afaik
heady swift
that's because the US has a vastly different infrastructure than in most European countries
so there's not much need for a small car unless you live in NYC
restive junco
yeah i mean even if I wanted my subcompact microcar there are like 3 options and they all kinda suck
heady swift
but like I said, the three-door hatchback segment is dying here too. European countries have massively changed their infrastructure, especially outside the historical cities
so the need for a significantly small car has dropped
a lot of brands have stopped or reduced the production of their smaller cars and have built more five-doors
jagged sentinel
The lighting is just really strange
heady swift
looks like one of those AI generated photos
analog harbor
Lowrider looks like a fish eye lens was used, but as for the background, not so much
that's why it looks weird
restive junco
it just looks as if someone shopped it in tbh
earnest crane
Hi
jagged sentinel
Hi
blissful lagoon
Street rod miat
swift galleon
New Mclearn vehicle for F1, poggers
dry sage
New Mclearn vehicle for F1, poggers
It looks pretty much the same, livery-wise.
swift galleon
new 2021 regulation changes the car floor
swift galleon
New engine
blissful lagoon
SRT just got axed but they will keep the engineers working on there high performance cars
kind osprey
does anyone here see something wrong here?
vague bluff
no shot people were actually expecting this years cars to look different
blissful lagoon
?
blissful lagoon
does anyone here see something wrong here?
Yea, 58K for a 240SX? Blasphemy
blissful lagoon
The fact its a r33
kind osprey
yeaa
This is almost as bad as that Lexus service ad that said brake repair and showed a clutch
blissful lagoon
Don't trust grand valley auto, you go buy a rolls royce from them and they probably give you a beat to shit ford focus with 1 mile till it blows up 
gloomy helm
@kind osprey take 2
kind osprey
Try sending a message inbetween
gloomy helm
E
kind osprey
And then waiting a few seconds
kind osprey
I love that wheel
gloomy helm
👌
placid spruce
blissful lagoon
Bruh
blissful lagoon
Sadness
as
im sad that our sportscoach isn't as good looking
Course engine is where its at
dry sage
Indeed
Please tell me you saw the McLaren presentation yesterday.
The more I think about it, something seemed off.
hybrid charm
The fact its a r33
Idk what are you talking about man, that's a 95 240SX, you should get your eyes checked
hybrid charm
Is there any Italian car which is affordable and for mass production or all thei...
FIAT my guy, the UNO, Panda, etc
I've toyed around a few fiats, UNO, 147, the Palio
hybrid charm
No back seats, no airflow, no cool cosmetics, and we gave it the same amount of ...
Well, it's cheaper and has plenty of power for it's engine, it still has a 3.0L Turbo I6, there is not much you can do with it
placid spruce
im sad that our sportscoach isn't as good looking
What that things gorgie. I can feel the 80s never left.
restive junco
is a skyline worth more than a 240sx
hybrid charm
is a skyline worth more than a 240sx
yeah
it is a performance car, more powerful
Also alot more popular
Which increases value
Sad
hybrid charm
Also alot more popular
unfortunately the people are asking more for a shitbox 240sx than a skyline
you can get a R32 gtr for a good price
specify good price
30k
still pretty expensive
compared for what they ask for 240sxs, which is a fraction of what the skyline is
Oof
restive junco
so ~60k for a 25 year old skyline is technically FMV because of paul walker?
hybrid charm
this one has no relation to Paul Walker
but I assume its expensive because it is imported
importing cars isn't cheap
hybrid charm
so ~60k for a 25 year old skyline is technically FMV because of paul walker?
wait until the R34 gets in the USA
restive junco
i mean if anything itll reduce the price of a skyline
hybrid charm
Idk with the R34, but you are probably right
rather buy a 355 or a testarossa anyway
restive junco
there are already like 30 or so quasilegally imported r34s
that get passed around i guess
but like yeah if I get some old ass sportscar its not gonna be a fuckin nissan
heady swift
It's been a rather revolutionary car with a great racing heritage, especially the r32 and r34
Same with the evo and impreza
heady swift
it had great suspension, 4wd and rather advanced electronics at the time. In racing the r32 obliterated JGTC and V8 supercars and the r34 dominated it (not v8 because ban) for a few years too. The r32 had 4ws which was pretty nice too and the RB engines are great for tuning and amateur/semi-professional racing
then need for speed and f&f came which diluted the japanese sports car market and created this weird delusional street racing culture
that said, almost every manufacturer has at least one model which can be considered revolutionary
blissful lagoon
What that things gorgie. I can feel the 80s never left.
Its so 80s even though it ain't even 80s 
Thanks 70s 
placid spruce
I need it
blissful lagoon
You no get mine
it my land cruiser
it needs work sadly
Course this is what they should look finished or stock
This one tho is a 72
placid spruce
blissful lagoon
This grey 1977 sportscoach (mopar) one is sleek
kind osprey
The r34’s are skyrocketing
Vspecs with even decent miles go for Huracán money
Not an exaggeration either
blissful lagoon
Skyrocketing in prices again?
hybrid charm
Vspecs with even decent miles go for Huracán money
Oh well, rather get the Huracan, paying 200k for a nissan is madness
kind osprey
true
It's ridiculous but supply and demand works in mysterious ways.
With $200,000 you could get a fully modified low mileage r33 with nice carbon fiber accents for less than half of that
and put the other $100,000 on a down payment for a house
kind osprey
A cute little concept car
sorta of an all terrain coupe like vehicle
I really like the front and side styling but not too much of a fan of the rear
Not a deal breaker I still think they did a nice job designing it
kind osprey
The emerus is an ugly rendition of a senna
this concept car is tiny compared to a mclaren senna
It does give me mclaren GT vibes
Mainly the roofline
not much else though
forest ore
car
kind osprey
vroom
proper elbow
kind osprey
<:OkayChamp:720264356029399052>
Introduced the Dodge Dart Magnum Hellcat
Mopar was too scared to make this so we just let Kia design it
dry sage
Hmmm...
restive junco
if ur gonna make these eclipse or mustang crossovers
can u at least make em like sick hot hatches or smth
ocean rock
nope, theyre mad boring
ive had a look at eclipse cross.
but mach e is cool, its an ev crossover from ford.
tidal quail
elder basin
I don't know but I think an Electric porsche taycan turbo might be in my distant future
this is probably the only EV I can somewhat respect unlike the ford Mach-E and all of tesla
kind osprey
It's also the least efficient ev when it comes to drag
Maybe when they make an updated one it'll perform as good but it's a bit behind the curve for it's price.
It looks nice, it has the brand image, and it handles well.
but outdated tech, and that range is an oof i'd probably stick with a model s between the 2
The new plaid one will be insane with that triple motor
like a four door roadster at that point.
elder basin
I'm not concerned for efficiency or range
It's a nice car, I hope to own one someday
I'd mostly just buy it as a luxury car and a daily driver.
blissful lagoon
You're gonna be charging it alot
Rather go tesla tbh
Sure a tesla looks like an egg
elder basin
not a fan of tesla
blissful lagoon
but eh a EV porsche seems weird and like epik said, bad drag
Bad efficiency
Plus if you want a porsche that isn't 200K go with there suvs lmao
elder basin
I don't mind having to charge more often, right now I don't care about gas mileage
blissful lagoon
Only 2 good things or 3 good things i like about EV cars, space, free charging, efficiency
2 of those things is in that porsche
elder basin
I might just go with a lesser model though, I'm not set in stone with it since it's a far future thing
hybrid charm
Yeah, at least you are getting a car with a superb build quality
can't go wrong with Porsche
restive junco
how do u turbo an electric
blissful lagoon
I dunno
Im assuming something like at a certain point you get a boost in electric power?
Im pretty sure its Porsche being Porsche tho
hybrid charm
how do u turbo an electric
its Just a name
agile haven
UM
kind osprey
340,000 miles
jesus christ
The price isn't too bad but if you raise it to even $3,000 you could probably find much better examples.
blissful lagoon
Oh yea im finding way better condition ones for 3-5K
mostly around 200K miles
200K+
But i never thought i would be considering getting a Mercedes
I wonder if a 440 would fit in one
limber birch
heady swift
anything cheap, fuel-efficient, reliable and has a decent amount of space
citroen ds3, c3, c4, volvo v40, peugeot 308, 208, hyundai i20, toyota yaris, aurus, etc are good examples for under 10K second-hand
they also pass euro 5 emission rules
old sedge
What's the standard in the US? Euro 5 or 6?
restive junco
importing cars to the us sucks because us regs are stuck in like the 70s
jagged sentinel
What, with the whole 25-year-old "historical vehicle" conundrum
At least we have that option
placid spruce
Depends on your budget.
The chevy Cobalt was my first car at 8k. Good base model with not much power but lots of space. Acceptable fuel economy
old sedge
the US has their own separate system
So the US has their own version of Euro compliance.
old sedge
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/STUD/2016/587331/IPOL_STU(2016)587...
this looks complicated. 😅
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rotund totem
What if he meant real life?
jagged sentinel
He put this in GTA channels too
rotund totem
DBC (Celica)
blissful lagoon
Burn it
languid sparrow
DBC (Celica)
I am uncomfortable
kind osprey
first time?
blissful lagoon
Sorry, not mine <:peepoOkay:690203026861850693>
That won't stop anything
blissful lagoon
its like
14K
for a used
I keep on seeing these go for 14K average
Course this has no bids so I could bid on this
lone ginkgo
!joinplaystation
gilded kelp
Supply and demand ig
potent sphinx
blissful lagoon
Comical
ocean rock
So the US has their own version of Euro compliance.
And theyre not synced across the country, its all on how much fuck will each state give to the regulation
analog radish
elder basin
the white interior is so nice
vernal moth
vernal moth
Its not matte black, its fabric
blissful lagoon
Still black 
hybrid charm
I think the '21 Tesla Model S Plaid+ has a really nice interior,
it's a shame you can't tow anything with it
'cause the battery will empty incredibly quickly
old sedge
And theyre not synced across the country, its all on how much fuck will each sta...
Well, USA often has its own system and regulations which are different from the rest of the world.
agile haven
Me looking at nice cars:
kind osprey
Well, USA often has its own system and regulations which are different from the ...
Yea like their dumb 25 year rule
shit needs to be fixed already that hasn't been an issue since the 80's
jagged sentinel
It's better then not being able to drive cars not normally legal in america at all
restive junco
america forbids laser headlights that prevents people from blinding me at night
because a laser is not a static bulb and does not contain a highbeam in the way the law is written
jagged sentinel
They also forbid cameras for rear view mirrors
restive junco
i think theyre recently unfucking those 2 things
the latter is being made ok for logistics applications
jagged sentinel
Which admittedly is more understandable then the lasers thing
jagged sentinel
The 'egg Gamera can finally have what it was designed to have
restive junco
the people pushing for active displays are truck manufacturers because it actually saves fuel or smth
jagged sentinel
Aerodynamics; that's a valid argument
There's no drag if there's no mirror there to create drag
restive junco
logistics people constantly buy new trucks too
they sell the old one every 5 years to the used market
jagged sentinel
Truck sales have skyrocketed recently because of a certain virus
restive junco
18 wheeler cabs or like vans
restive junco
im thinking about like heavy duty cabs
jagged sentinel
Ah
jagged sentinel
The aerodynamics argument is even more valid there then
restive junco
they get so many miles its better to just sell it
so yeah the instant active monitoring is/was allowed logistics firms start seeing savings
errant vale
does anyone have one of those free epic games accounts with gta 5 on it. i want to get gta 5 for my friend. dont give me one if your not sure about it
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blissful lagoon
does anyone have one of those free epic games accounts with gta 5 on it. i want ...
1 not allowed and 2 how the fuck do you miss the gta channels?
elder basin
I think the '21 Tesla Model S Plaid+ has a really nice interior,
it's a shame yo...
I love the white color interior
I'm probably going to end up with a model 3 but if I could ever get the model s plaid+ I would enjoy that monster of a sports, no super sedan
also get the autopilot on it and play witcher 3 on your little screen
crystal tree
hybrid charm
I'm probably going to end up with a model 3 but if I could ever get the model s ...
If I buy a Tesla I'm going all out and getting a Model S Plaid+.
I've always wanted a super car, but having Lamborghini performance at a fraction of the price and with dealerships here in the U.S. that specialize in maintenance of it would be nice.
- I can always buy service manuals.
If I got a Model S Plaid+ I would actually consider driving for Uber and Lyft on the side. 
kind osprey
You don't need the highest of the high model to have a nice tesla even a model three performance for $65,000 with a few cool options will be plenty more than enough for a great quick daily car.
$65,000 compared to $145,000 is a bit of a difference
hybrid charm
You don't need the highest of the high model to have a nice tesla even a model t...
yeah but like
I have my truck for when I need to ferry people, it's a 4 door first generation Ford Explorer Sport Trac with a towing capacity of 5,000 lbs., never have needed 2 move beyond 4k lbs.
I can use my motorbike(s) for when I need fuel efficiency
If I'm going to get a Tesla, I would probably drop a 50k USD down payment on the ~132k+ Model S Plaid Plus model
I would probably use it more often for dating & touring than anything else to be fair
Pleasure instead of a daily driver cuts down on insurance cost, as well
jagged sentinel
Least you don't have you worry about it dying as it sits
hybrid charm
That is true! Yeah. With traditional petrol/gas powered vehicles here in the U.S., you have to burn down to 1/4th tank of gasoline if it sits for more than 6 months.
With a Tesla, one of the issues would (I assume?) be passive battery drain due to cooler temperatures.
jagged sentinel
I mean, assuming your house is powered by electricity you should be fine
I'm mostly talking about the powertrain of a tesla
The power train transfers energy to rotational motion through magnetics, so there is extremely little to no metal-to-metal contact at all in the powertrain
kind osprey
But epik, you dont get the pilot style steering <@243167434767335435>
That wheel looks ugly on a sedan and would be horribly impractical for daily driving
kind osprey
If I'm going to get a Tesla, I would probably drop a 50k USD down payment on the...
That’s a huge liability for not much of a necessary upgrade but if you ever get rich why not
You could’ve even shoot for the roadster instead lol
hybrid charm
A 1,000 USD/mo. payment is a lot but it's either that or a girlfriend lol.
I'm going to assume the monthly insurance would be 100 or more, as well.
I wouldn't get the Tesla Roadster because I can move people around in a four-door, and the Model S Plaid Plus has absurd performance for a sedan - if those specs end up being true.
kind osprey
Yea they are going to be true if not very accurate
It’s a triple motor setup
But I’m still confused about why you would waste the extra money, almost double the money for what will be unnoticeable most of the time.
hybrid charm
A Sunday driver that I can drive interstate with 3 or 4 people, incredibly fast, and install roof rails on temporarily.
The distance between cities in the U.S. is very large.
kind osprey
The model 3 s performance, or even just a regular model three performance fits that exact description
hybrid charm
At 115 mph on a motorbike, you can lose cops. At 130 mph you're outrunning police choppers in a straight line. At about 140 mph you've outrun most pursuit Dodge Chargers, and at 155 mph your license plate(s) cannot be captured on speed trap cameras.
hybrid charm
Really? Huh. The 500 mile range and increased top speed looks attractive.
kind osprey
Because it’s their new battery
hybrid charm
The extra range is what I liked a lot, if I were to drive far enough north, lower range due to the cold can be offset by higher capacity, meaning fewer stops.
kind osprey
Most modern cameras can catch faster than cars could even ever realistically go
hybrid charm
Not when I remove the OEM limiter on a commuter car and increase air intake to the engine so it doesn't overheat at 150.
kind osprey
The only way to bypass a camera is to top out a Koenigsegg but you’d need a good straight for that
hybrid charm
But yeah, it's easier to do that on a motorbike.
Oh no, 155 and you're good.
No ticket in the mail at 155.
heady swift
MPH?
kind osprey
But 155 would still trigger, and where do you plan on going 155 on a public road that’s ridiculous
hybrid charm
MPH, and 250 KMH.
kind osprey
Even I’m not that reckless
heady swift
155 on a highway, especially an american is feasible
hybrid charm
But 155 would still trigger, and where do you plan on going 155 on a public road...
Welcome to U.S. highways, I'm expected to go 65/75 on an interstate for 20 hours straight.
No thanks.
kind osprey
155 on a highway, especially an american is feasible
Feasible yes, felony? Also yes
heady swift
it's also stupid yeah
hybrid charm
Sometimes I'll ride interstate to help friends, and being on the roadway for 50% more time than I need to is problematic.
Texas is also huge - gorgeous, don't get me wrong. But painfully huge.
heady swift
buy a plane ticket
hybrid charm
A lot like the empty space in my brain due to the fact I am kinda stupid.
kind osprey
It would also be problematic when you lose control at a speed that makes you a 5000 pound bullet
heady swift
fortunately we don't live in a country the size of a continent
hybrid charm
No, you can dismount easily on a motorbike at 200 and live.
kind osprey
Idk what motorcycle is 5000 but k lol
hybrid charm
If I'm not wearing a dedicated suit, a jacket, pants, elbow&shin guards, a CE1 or 2 rated backplate, boots, gloves and helmet are fine.
In a car, 200 mph is a lot riskier.
kind osprey
Also that’s still very lucky to survive any motorcycle accident
heady swift
yeah on a motorbike since you slide (god forbid you slide against the side of the road, many people lose limbs because of that)
hybrid charm
Also I would never, ever ever speed on a motorbike in a U.S. city.
heady swift
in a car it's much more deadly
hybrid charm
Going above 60-80 mph in a U.S. city with how dense concrete barriers, railings and overpasses are would be suicidal.
So I always slow down when nearing a town or city, when driving or riding interstate.
hybrid charm
yeah on a motorbike since you slide (god forbid you slide against the side of th...
but sometimes in the U.S., there will be dense temperate forests near interstates as well,
kind osprey
Supercars unironically are incredibly safe at extreme high speeds, there are a ton of cases of things like Huracáns and even up to Enzos crashing at 160-200mph and walking out with little injuries
hybrid charm
so slowing down there is ideal, because you cannot see corners, and dismounting into a tree
... is problematic (probably dead, same with concrete barriers)
kind osprey
But they are gonna get put in a pen for sure
If you are interstate traveling a lot, just don’t get a tesla
To answer the big question
hybrid charm
The model 3 s performance, or even just a regular model three performance fits t...
just begun researching fully electric vehicles, thank you very much
I'm eagerly awaiting the potential they have for hauling trailers, as of right now the only vehicles that can handle 12-14,000+ pound trailers are gas/petrol powered or electric semis in development such as Volvo's
kind osprey
A $132,000 is ridiculous for someone unless they could afford that luxury outright. It is best to get the half price alternative, which still btw goes 0-60 faster than most supercars and won’t feel much different
hybrid charm
and I don't think a Tesla can reasonably handle more than 2,000 lbs. (a small camper trailer) for a very long distance, since it begins feeling that weight even with no grade, from what I've read
it says on Tesla's website that the Model 3 Performance has 315 mi. range for me
kind osprey
The only thing I’d tow with is a model x
Every Tesla besides the newest ones will have 280-340 around there
They are duel motored
hybrid charm
do you think that would be okay on U.S. roadways with how far some charging stations are spread out?
https://www.plugshare.com/
kind osprey
Which is why I’m saying don’t even bother with electric
hybrid charm
Here's a .gov map with more public resources, I believe
https://afdc.energy.gov/fuels/electricity_locations.html#/find/nearest?fuel=ELEC
kind osprey
Unless you are already a king pin or something, use that $50,000 on a down payment for a rental property and buy some beefy pickup
hybrid charm
I have property and a decent pickup, I'm just looking to lower my footprint and have a decent car for Sunday driving
I mean, I guess I could buy a Suzuki Hayabusa, but
That kind of motorcycle is a bit extreme relative to its performance
Even the 2021/2022 model year with its new electronic suites.. I don't know.
By the time I'm 40 or 50 my eye-hand coordination may not be good enough for a Hayabusa, and I've read Tesla has really good driver assisting software.
kind osprey
I would love something like a Huracán but I’m putting a rule on myself where I cannot purchase a useless luxury until my assets can cover ten of them.
hybrid charm
Fuel economy is a deal breaker for me.
One of the reasons I would not buy a Bentley Continental GT V8 is because the annual cost comes out to around 10,000 USD including insurance premiums and road wear, not including the vehicle itself and payments.
But it has really good fuel economy for a luxury vehicle.
kind osprey
It’s British
hybrid charm
If I'm keeping something longer than ten years, I want to make sure I can lift it in a garage, do maintenance, and not break the bank when touring.
kind osprey
If you want the short answer lol
hybrid charm
Yeah lol, I still am hesitant to buy Italian, not just British or German or Swiss or Swedish
kind osprey
There is always an rs6 avant but that is also expensive af
hybrid charm
I've seen the way Italians design their motorbikes, it is braindead
Would not want to buy a Lamborghini
there it is
the problem
kind osprey
When is comes to supercars like a Huracán or a 458 they are actually a lot less polluting compared to an average car because people buying those put like no miles on them
hybrid charm
Yeah, a Sunday driver in the U.S. would get a lot of miles on it if you drive interstate
and if I decide to move to Canada or Europe for work or my spouse, having something with a decent resell would be nice
resell value* for that reason, some but not all luxury cars such as the Huracán are good
I've read that they appreciate well.. But that is for low mileage ones, right?
kind osprey
They don’t appreciate, but their benefit is that they freeze in time
They barely lose any value
hybrid charm
Does a Tesla have decent resale value if you bite the money for getting the battery replaced?
A slight loss would be better than a huge loss in value imo.
kind osprey
Teslas barely depreciate because the car is all software, so an older car can have the same features as a newer one just from a phone like update
hybrid charm
Yeah lol, that's what their marketing majors they pay $###,### a year tell us all. 
hybrid charm
I've been told Teslas will enter the resell market if people do not want to pay to have a battery replacement, but I do not know if that is true.
restive junco
die* jesus
kind osprey
Yea motorcycles are fun but I would only do that on a private road or a track
I don’t trust people when I’m the airbag for my vehicle
hybrid charm
I assume anyone other than me has more experience with fully electric vehicles.
hybrid charm
I don’t trust people when I’m the airbag for my vehicle
They have smartphone controlled airbags you can wear for motorbikes, but they're really expensive for the average person.
restive junco
that rear sprocket is just a belt drive
the belts are actually pretty durable the downside is if it breaks youre totally fucked
vs a chain where u can replace it in like 10 minutes
kind osprey
I don’t think them being phone detonated would make any sense unless you mean they work with the phone to sense unusual or fast movement
restive junco
the belts are like steel reinforced and actually last longer
but theyre less efficient
hybrid charm
no, they're detonated with enough force to make them go "poof"
they just have software for some reason
like 
what? why?
- a monthly subscription, makes no sense
hybrid charm
the belts are actually pretty durable the downside is if it breaks youre totally...
if you're referring to the XDiavel S from Ducati, yes
kind osprey
Helmet and outside airbags usually have some sensor and they do it on their own like car ones. They are getting more common on bicycles
hybrid charm
that's why the 'rock guard' they put over the belt that destroys it over time,
restive junco
if thats the picture u linked yeah
hybrid charm
is such a huge problem
I thought "Italian design is sh*t" was a joke, I never realized Italian design could cause a 1,000-2,000 USD repair right off of the manufacturing line
restive junco
o that fairing thingy scrapes against the belt?
hybrid charm
scrapes against the belt?
They actually have this guard behind it you cannot see in the picture designed to prevent debris and gravel from kicking into the belt and parts near it
restive junco
the guys didnt leave like, a few inches of clearance
kind osprey
Yea basically
hybrid charm
and it does the exact opposite of what it was designed to do
they may have fixed it by now, but it was present in at least 2 or 3 years of the XDiavel S
which is a design flaw you do not want in a 25,000 USD motorcycle
it's the equivalent of having a Ferrari whose rear axle explodes for no reason every X,000 miles
hybrid charm
Another benefit to having a Tesla Model S Plaid Plus is if I eventually have a kid, I can put a car seat in the back 
A car with fewer possible mechanical problems than the gas vehicles I maintain currently, with enough range for reliable cross touring in the U.S. would be nice
I would possibly have to sell the bike I use for commuting and touring if I had a kid right now
hybrid charm
A car with fewer possible mechanical problems than the gas vehicles I maintain c...
Or, like you've suggested - just wait for their existing lineup to reach ~500 miles
Probably the best idea
restive junco
get some cheapo klr650 ez
the issue w teslas is if something goes wrong, you aren't allowed to fix it
this matters not at all if u were gonna head to the dealership anyway
hybrid charm
wait, even if you can fix it it voids the warranty?
old sedge
Since this is still part of transportation, I'm gonna ask this. Anyone else experienced having an annoying backseat driver while travelling?
placid spruce
Yes
old sedge
Some of my relatives are. I remember when my mom and uncle even had a heated debate because my uncle insisted that we can park in a tow away zone but my mom said we can't. It's our car we were using and then my mom angrily told him that he should pay for the impound fee if our car gets towed. 😂
blissful lagoon
👍
tribal jolt
hybrid charm
dayum, what car??
kind osprey
My guess is a 2009-2013 c class or e class
my bet is on c class though
looks nice
amg too good find, let hope the maintenance doesn't bankrupt the car
stuck pasture
buoyant jay
those pops
broken osprey
dang that car looks in great shape too
kind osprey
Older cars do have that awesome sense of style and nostalgia but they are literal death traps
I’d be afraid to drive that anywhere 50 feet away from my house
blissful lagoon
And the fact they are magnets to getting stolen
that and death
but tis a project
Also its a great fuckin deal
proper elbow
Fuck that's ugly
blissful lagoon
👍
night steeple
I would want one of those in my lifetime, regardless of me risking dying by steering wheel impaling, I have a thing for old murica boats
old sedge
Anyone knows a good dash cam brand?
placid spruce
Anyone knows a good dash cam brand?
If it sticks, it works. You don't need a $200 dashcam. I picked mine up for $70-100
I would avoid wireless ones because you have to charge those
old sedge
If it sticks, it works. You don't need a $200 dashcam. I picked mine up for $70-...
Is there a camera which has a clip which can be attached to the rear view mirror instead of suction cup?
placid spruce
Oh that's be on an individual basis
Mine has a sticky and sticks to my windscreen
I doubt there's ones with a clip because I don't know that the rearview is a standard size
old sedge
Oh, suction cups won't stick sometimes.
placid spruce
Yeah see the thing is you set it up
And never take it off
Because if you take it off it will never stick down again and you have to get a new one
Which is only happening if someone is paying me insurance money sooo
This kenwood was great
It' captured my jeeps final moments of me being a total tool. My insurance company didn't get the video
kind osprey
I found this scrolling through Instagram and I think it would be fun to see what crazy shit you guys pick in here
This was mine
old sedge
Oh
kind osprey
Since it’s unlimited money I chose what I would get if I was some multi billionaire and could only get five for whatever reason
But money doesn’t matter you can choose whatever you want basically
uncut saddle
I found this scrolling through Instagram and I think it would be fun to see what...
Datsun 240z, McLaren F1, Lamborghini Sesto Elemento, Shelby Cobra Daytona, Aston Martin Valkyrie