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dull siren
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yes

plucky pine
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I really like the look of the new Ford raptor model, it looks really futuristic and I think I want one when I’m older

fickle summit
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what are y'alls dream car ?

blissful lagoon
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What changed about that ford raptor?

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the headlights?

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The wheels?

fickle summit
plucky pine
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I’m not too sure, but this new model looks really nice

fickle summit
fickle summit
plucky pine
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It does yeah

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Decided my dream car at 15 💔

blissful lagoon
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It looks like the same raptor they have been pushing out since 2016

hybrid charm
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those wheels had to be custom made lmao
the debris you see near the end is rubber on top of the spokes popping off lmao
he's wearing a three-piece suit in a Dodge Challenger lmao

blissful lagoon
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Damn the amish really did upgrade

dusk bison
blissful lagoon
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Also yea there custom made for buggies, not that car tho, he literally went to a wheel shop and bought them

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But you know

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whistlindiesel

hybrid charm
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Those would have to be custom made

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a Challenger with options weighs over 4,000 lbs.

blissful lagoon
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Yep

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but if you watched the OG video he said he just bought them

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Hell surprised they even lived

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Cause he drove that with those wheels on around town

hybrid charm
blissful lagoon
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Oh you mean the spacers

hybrid charm
blissful lagoon
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And yea they basically welded a disc on to fit the spacers

hybrid charm
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custom made

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to be able to evenly distribute over 4,000 lbs.

blissful lagoon
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Imma say this once, he went to a wheel shop, bought some buggy wheels, brought them back to his farm, welded some disc on to fit the spacers, and then proceeded to drive it

hybrid charm
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every single passenger carriage in existence weighs under 1,500 lbs.

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the hub and spokes would not need to be made out of aluminum otherwise KEKW

blissful lagoon
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REGULAR LONG HUB

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hints it was bought

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Literally made for a carriage

hybrid charm
blissful lagoon
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It is made by a wheel shop, as said in video

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He literally bought them and all he did was put a disc to fit the spacers

hybrid charm
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You're arguing semantics when you don't know what you're typing about,

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when they tried with normal wheels you can buy in a shop, they fell apart

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so he paid $$ to have those aluminum ones custom made by that shop

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an order # is not provided unless something is going to take more than a couple of days to receive

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Facepalm Which implies someone is machining the wheels

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I gtg

blissful lagoon
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Good

primal zenith
drifting tundra
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whistlindeisels hellcat is best hellcat

hybrid charm
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brand new are 100k and up

old sedge
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Unless it's a top end which is better for track.

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Than the stock

hybrid charm
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it will, the nismo is 200k +

old sedge
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I mean, the non-Nismo variant, the "lowest" trim.

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Of course the Nismo will be expensive.

kind osprey
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Nismo lost it's appeal, unless you are talking about the gtr

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but you pay the hefty price for real nismo

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I remember when gtr were only $83,000 new, what the hell happened

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it was the underdog affordable fast car now just get an r8

proper elbow
kind osprey
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Yea the gtrs are as much as Porsche's now what's the point

proper elbow
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Or a Demon 🤔

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Didn't realize those were only 80k

kind osprey
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A 911 will have a better driving experience than a gtr and imo they just are so iconic that I would grab one eons before a gtr if they cost the same.

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Demons are only 80k because they are just a big ass engine, and they only care about what makes it go

proper elbow
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Yep. Depends what type of car you're after. GTR is pretty far down on the list regardless if youre after speed/acceleration or a drivers car

kind osprey
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the interior is shotty and it's still a basic challenger, it isn't luxury of any kind

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but the customers want power, not leather everywhere they know their customers

proper elbow
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Demon is purpose built.

kind osprey
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It isn't bad by any means but there is a reason all the power is only 80k

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exactly

old sedge
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If that's the case, I would rather buy a Porsche 911 too. Besides, people say that Porsche is "like the Toyota" in the sports and supercar segment.

kind osprey
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how is Porsche even slightly comparable to toyota???

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i'm so confused who made that up

proper elbow
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Porsche is one of the de facto sports car manufacturers. They've been using the exact same formula since the early 1960s.

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It just works.

old sedge
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There people who say Porsche is reliable, like how Toyota is reliable in the mass production car segment.

proper elbow
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Cant compare to toyota

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in any sense

kind osprey
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Yea they didn't change the formula but Toyota has, they outsourse a shit ton of stuff but that anaolgy would work in the late 90's

old sedge
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But older Toyotas are more reliable.

proper elbow
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Ofc they are

kind osprey
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Porsches and other german cars can be reliable but they still can be hit or miss, when they do break they break hard.

proper elbow
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I had an Audi Allroad that was damn near bulletproof but any time something went wrong it cost an arm and a leg

kind osprey
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that's a great sum up of those types of cars

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I want an old audi but

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I'm scared to get the wrong one

proper elbow
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Not worth it unless you do your own maintenance or have some disposable income

kind osprey
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i probably could but i'd just need to find the space to do it

hybrid charm
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And Porsche's can come with a manual if that's your thing

old sedge
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I don't think we have FIY maintenance here.

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FIY - fix it yourself

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In here, something's wrong? Call the mechanic.

proper elbow
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People don't do their own maintenance where you live? peepoThink

old sedge
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Not even oil change...

proper elbow
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Lots of people here do their own, lots go to mechanics.
We even have businesses that will rent out a bay with a vehicle lift and tools for do-it-yourself repairs.

old sedge
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The only maintenance we do here is tire change.

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And tire rotation.

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Do you know that we don't even refuel our cars on our own when we go to a gasoline station? There are gasoline station attendants who refuel the cars for us. 😅

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They also add or reduce tire pressure for us.

jagged sentinel
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I'm not sure if I wanna get a C8 corvette

hybrid charm
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get i

old sedge
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It's a good car

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Guys!

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I remember thinking that fuel and water are the same when I was a child so I tried putting water in our car's gas tank. 😂

jagged sentinel
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I'm mostly questioning it's reliability

old sedge
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Good thing my parents stopped me. 🤣

jagged sentinel
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I wonder if it'll live up to the reliability standard of previous corvettes

old sedge
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I would ask the god of cars about that. That person is Scotty Kilmer. 😂

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What would you choose? C8 Corvette or Viper ACR?

proper elbow
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C8 Corvette

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Wouldn't be as miserable driving around town on a daily basis.

old sedge
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That's a hard one for me

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My goal is to have at least 1 exotic car. Which car is considered exotic?

proper elbow
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Neither the viper nor the corvette

old sedge
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I mean not just those 2, anything besides the Italian supercars?

proper elbow
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Anything rare imo

old sedge
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Is Porsche exotic?

proper elbow
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Lexus LFA, Porsche GT2 RS

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etc etc

old sedge
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Oh.

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I thought exotic cars are supercars or hypercars.

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Especially the Italian ones or which have performance similar or better than those.

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Agera is a great example of exotic car.

proper elbow
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I'd say any Koenigsegg would qualify as exotic

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But people have their own definitions of exotics Im sure. Like some people would consider any Lambo or Ferrari exotic probably.

old sedge
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BMW M3 GTR would probably be an exotic.

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Maybe I should marry a rich Italian to get an exotic car. 🤣

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Just kidding, I would marry for love but the very close friend I'm looking for is Italian.

hybrid charm
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OHC corvettes are reliable

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is the C8 OHC ?

old sedge
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DOHC?

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Or just OHC? I'm not sure if there's an OHC, all I know is SOHC and DOHC.

hybrid charm
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OHC (Over head camshaft)

proper elbow
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All of chevys V8s are pushrod motors afaik (single cam)

jagged sentinel
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LS and LT engines are cam-in-block, pushrod V8s

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The main difference being the introduction of direct injection in the LT engines

hybrid charm
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ay, love chevys V8s

old sedge
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Oh, speaking of V8s, which would you choose?

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Large N/A engines with 6-8 cylinders or small turbocharged engines with 4 cylinders providing they have same or almost same hp and torque?

proper elbow
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Depends on platform

old sedge
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I prefer turbocharged because it's turbo and smaller engine means better fuel efficiency.

proper elbow
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Trend of LS-swapping everything is getting quite tired imo.

old sedge
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Imagine a Chevy Suburban with a 2.0 I4 twin-turbocharged engine? 😂

proper elbow
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No thanks

old sedge
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I guess a small engine is bad for big vehicles even if the engine is actually very powerful

hybrid charm
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large, I could turbocharge it later and it wouldn't be a time bomb like turbo 4

jagged sentinel
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I prefer superchargers over turbos

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That demon supercharger whine is justblobJustRight

old sedge
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The turbo whistle and the turbo valve sounds are the best.

old sedge
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Large engines with 6-8 cylinders are rare here due to high fuel costs, not to mention diesel engines are popular here due to their lower fuel costs and fuel efficiency so people here choose the midsized(2.0-3.0) I4 turbodiesel engines which most SUVs here have.

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And I had an idea before of a car with a turbine jet engine instead of a piston engine but I guess it would be dangerous...

kind osprey
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there has never been a day in my life where I saw diesel cheaper than gasoline per gallon.

old sedge
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Depends on the place(not all have same prices) but around 0.79 USD? Not sure.

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Or 0.94 USD? I'll check again when I go out

kind osprey
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what country is that

old sedge
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Ph

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Here, diesel is cheaper than gasoline per gallon.

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That combined with diesel's lower fuel consumption and higher torque are the reasons why people here prefer diesel over gas.

kind osprey
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interesting

old sedge
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That's why most SUVs(especially mid-sized SUVs) here are diesel. Toyota was the only one which offered gas engine for a mid-sized SUV here but it got discontinued most likely due to low demand.

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Like out of 10 buyers, only 1 would buy the gas variant of that SUV, the rest will buy the diesel variant.

jagged sentinel
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Cummins GT500 mustang
Cummins GT500 mustang

ocean rock
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Sounds like a shit that carroll would love, then beat the shit out of you for making it in the first place when youre not looking.

blissful lagoon
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It went down finally

quiet marten
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It aint worth it!!!

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Just for the shit box factor i would rock it but im broke af

blissful lagoon
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Say that to the one my family bought for 400$

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pretty worth

quiet marten
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Its gonna be more money either way

blissful lagoon
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Running well over 250k now

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no problems

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except slight suspension wear

quiet marten
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You pay $1080 and wanting to change that door panel with new headlights and 4 new wheels and tires

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Other than that I'd fuck with it

blissful lagoon
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Those doors are relatively easy and cheap to find, lights i see no issues, tires eh that spare maybe

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Know cause same problem with current van but fixed

quiet marten
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The thing that would cost the most with the doors is re-wiring and glass and all that

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And the headlights look slightly hazed which in places like Texas around wear i live is nothing but dark backroads so thats one thing everyone looks for

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Were*

blissful lagoon
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Most it would cost to find and get a replacement door including rewiring and glass even though most of those doors still have the glass is probably only a small 10th of that vans total worth, also fixing hazy lights is easy

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Having to do it with the tailgate soon

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did one door already do to rust, not bad to do tbh

kind osprey
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for under $1080 you could find much better

hybrid charm
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You Can Get Miatas For Like 8 Grand

quiet marten
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Depends

analog bison
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what are the most majestic planes IYO

hybrid charm
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Bombers

analog bison
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ok

hybrid charm
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Glad I could help

hybrid charm
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yup, bombers ftw

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also these guys

old sedge
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Those planes look like Super Tucanos.

hybrid charm
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They are

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The camouflaged one is from the air force and the Blue ones are from the smoke squadron (The smoke squadron is in the air force, but you get the idea)

old sedge
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The Super Tucano is pretty but I believe it's only for anti-insurgency, it wouldn't probably survive a modern warfare.

hybrid charm
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Indeed, not a dogfighter7

old sedge
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Can a Tunguska AA tank shoot it down though?

jagged sentinel
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What is tunguska's main armament

old sedge
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These are the missiles.
9M311: Original missile, laser proximity fuze, range 8 km.
9M311K (3M87): Naval version of the 9M311 used by the Kortik system. Export version of Kashtan uses the 9M311-1E missile.
9M311-1: Export version of the missile.
9M311M (3M88): Improved version of the missile.
9M311-M1: Used with the Tunguska-M1 radar proximity fuse for improved capability against cruise missiles. Pulsed tracking light instead of constant flare for better resistance to infrared countermeasures. Range improved to 10 km.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2K22_Tunguska

The 2K22 Tunguska (Russian: 2К22 "Тунгуска") is a Russian tracked self-propelled anti-aircraft weapon armed with a surface-to-air gun and missile system. It is designed to provide day and night protection for infantry and tank regiments against low-flying aircraft, helicopters, and cruise missiles in all weather conditions. Its NATO reporting na...

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The secondary armaments are twin 30mm machineguns.

blissful lagoon
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when something goes cheaper imma jump on it

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but that is all i can find for that much

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all the others cheaper have either no engine, wrecked, or salvage

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Plus it seems as if no one wants it so price will probably just keep going down

ionic marsh
blissful lagoon
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Corvette

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nice

jagged sentinel
blissful lagoon
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C4 Cursed_flushed

wet lion
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what u guys think of these ?

jagged sentinel
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🚮

wet lion
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lol i feted them cus of the plates

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deleted

jagged sentinel
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Nice, you lied

wet lion
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no fr

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u can see the played

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plates

jagged sentinel
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Yes, they were European plates

wet lion
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supra u can’t see

jagged sentinel
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🚮

wet lion
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no

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it’s a lot nicer irl tbh

jagged sentinel
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Yes

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🚮

wet lion
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atleast the silvia got better

jagged sentinel
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You blocking out the rest of the pic is mad sus

wet lion
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maybe cus i don’t wanna show u my mates house

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nd our faces

gilded kelp
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That my friend

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Is pavement

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Lmaooo

wet lion
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ik

jagged sentinel
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It's not like I'm going to frame you for capital murder or anything

wet lion
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eh fuck it i barley speak to the guy anyway

gilded kelp
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Isnt there a mod for sports/super cars to have a rear end like a hatchback or sumn

wet lion
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that’s 4 years ago

jagged sentinel
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Only time I will like an S15 is with a V8 of some kind in it

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Hate the factory engine

gilded kelp
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I THOUGHT THAT WAS YOUR DAD I WAS FINNA ROAST YOUR OLD MAN FOR HAVING A BABY FACE

wet lion
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lol

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my mates in the suit

gilded kelp
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My dream is to own an s15 but by the time im old enough to afford one (current day price) theyll all be gone or worth over 100k

wet lion
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we have a honda crx 1988

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which ain’t that nice

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but sounds nice

jagged sentinel
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I'd rather pay 100K for a fully kitted out shelby GT500 then get a wrong-hand-drive, stock JDM that I can only drive on month in the entire year

gilded kelp
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Not even stock

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Any

jagged sentinel
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I've got an 87 camaro sitting in my house's garage rn

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Except I can actually prove it

gilded kelp
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Lol

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I dont own anything cool (:

wet lion
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it has a lot the honda

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nd i would prove it

gilded kelp
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I almost did but somehow it got really fucked up

wet lion
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if it weren’t midnight

jagged sentinel
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Excuses

wet lion
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no

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excuses

jagged sentinel
wet lion
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read the time

gilded kelp
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I havent used military time since my minute phone

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23:43 is 11:43 Will

jagged sentinel
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I know

gilded kelp
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Oh

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My bad

jagged sentinel
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Just took it home from the shop today actually

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Loved hearing it come rumbling into the garage

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I totally sound like I'm bluffing lmao

wet lion
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what it look like

jagged sentinel
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Photo is a couple months old

wet lion
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oh

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u got any plans for it

jagged sentinel
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Keep it as is

wet lion
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oh

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fare enoug

jagged sentinel
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Long story short this specific trim/edition is rare as fuck

blissful lagoon
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Fuck why are they so much

gilded kelp
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You know Will i dont particularly like camaro’s but thats sexy as fuck

jagged sentinel
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I think chevy nailed the 3rd gen camaro as far as 80's styling is concerned @gilded kelp

gilded kelp
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Yea

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See im stuck on what i wanna do

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Like what i wanna buy

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Cus i want so many cars but i cant own 5 cars as a teenager

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Realistically

jagged sentinel
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My dad paid 9,7 for that camaro

gilded kelp
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Holy shit

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awesome

jagged sentinel
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If the guy knew what he had, we would have paid double

gilded kelp
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I bet

jagged sentinel
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Or rather, we wouldn't have

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There are less then a thousand of the particular edition we have

gilded kelp
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Thats awesome dude

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I could probably never find something like that

jagged sentinel
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The post had been up for two weeks; the guy just wanted to get it off him

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It's also a 5-speed manual, which apparently is the must-have gearbox for the 25th anniversary edition

gilded kelp
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Alot of automatics end up having more issues

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Ever wonder why people stopped buying the Honda Prelude?

jagged sentinel
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My dad is in a couple 3rd gen camaro/F-body facebook groups (yeah yeah facebook)

gilded kelp
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Fb market is great for cars

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Every time in looking for cars thats where i go

jagged sentinel
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And people have straight-up offered him 15K for it

gilded kelp
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Dude never sell that car

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Idc what happens

jagged sentinel
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multiple times

gilded kelp
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Only 15k?

jagged sentinel
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One jokingly (at least my dad thinks) offered 20

gilded kelp
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Lol

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I need help deciding what car i wanna work for

jagged sentinel
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I joked that the car was the guy's wife

gilded kelp
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Was OkayChamp

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Lol

jagged sentinel
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The passenger seat was barely ever used

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And it is in way better condition then we thought

gilded kelp
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Nice

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Any issues upon purchase?

jagged sentinel
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No

gilded kelp
jagged sentinel
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He drove it home that day

gilded kelp
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Cool

jagged sentinel
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Look how clean that is

gilded kelp
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Thats awesome

jagged sentinel
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I joked that the car was the guy's wife

agile haven
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Pog

jagged sentinel
agile haven
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I don't like it for some reason

jagged sentinel
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The interior is very 80s

gilded kelp
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Very

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Bright

jagged sentinel
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Hold on

gilded kelp
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Definitely an 80’s thing

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Too much carpet

proper elbow
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If only it had zebra stripes

jagged sentinel
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Those photos are very saturated

gilded kelp
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Ah

jagged sentinel
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Did some quick edits; this is a better representation of what the interior looks like

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I would go take some pics right now

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But it's under a form-fitting cover at the moment

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And if you know anything about form-fitting covers

kind osprey
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a convertible on a nice sunny warm day would be fantastic rn

ocean rock
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Poggers

kind osprey
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oh shit

jagged sentinel
whole steeple
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What is this

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I didn't even know this existed

plush escarp
restive junco
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.

jagged sentinel
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My dad is planning on buying his next car from the same dealership

restive junco
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the dealership that put this bolt on camera in limbo for 3 months?

jagged sentinel
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Hopefully he doesn't get scammed like this again

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Yes

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Our neighbor is one of the brass at that dealership, so we're able to get some nice discounts

restive junco
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oh

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was about to say "why is he still buying from these chuds"

jagged sentinel
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I don't think that excuses the camera thing tho

restive junco
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I mean not really they should have bolted on the dumb thing or told you they have an issue with it

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maybe tell ur dad that theyll prob be shit about service?

jagged sentinel
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It's something that I plan to do once I get the truck as my own

restive junco
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unless he can work on his own car and basically uses the dealership to acquire the vehicle hes prob gonna have to go back to these morons for service

jagged sentinel
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He doesn't care for the camera

restive junco
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oh ok

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whoever initially optioned the car I use didn't go for the upgraded front seats with the extendable seat bit which is a bit unfortunate bcs I'm like 6'2"

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but like its a used car it is what it is

jagged sentinel
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The camera would be very useful for towing, which is something we do somewhat often

restive junco
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if it mounts by the trailer hitch are you going to be able to see anything?

jagged sentinel
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It's a wide-angle camera

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There's this gas station I ride past every day coming back from my CTE class

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In the back lot behind it, there's a first-gen Honda NSX

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Just sitting there

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Where it has sat for at least 2 years

restive junco
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F

jagged sentinel
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The only thing visibly wrong with it is that it's missing a right rear fender

kind osprey
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For a good price I would love to scoop that up

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Imagine an nsx as a first car

jagged sentinel
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It's so sad to see a car like that wasting away in the back lot of a gas station

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It's just plain tragic

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Especially when it's under like 12 inches of snow like it was today

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I kinda wanna ask about the car

gilded kelp
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(Mach-E)

jagged sentinel
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It's filthy

gilded kelp
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AWD, 266 horsepower, 428 pound-feet of torque, curb weight 4,394 to 4,929, and a 0-60 in 4.8 (or 4.1 depending on model) seconds

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Pathetic

jagged sentinel
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That's 0.6 seconds slower then a Jeep trackhawk, which has almost triple the horsepower

gilded kelp
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I dont do car stats so idk if thats good

jagged sentinel
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The Jeep trackhawk has a hellcat engine@gilded kelp

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Which is to say 707 horsepower

gilded kelp
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Oh

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So id say thats good

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Lmao

tribal jolt
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Rate how long do y'all think this will last going 90, red lining, and over heating

elder basin
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Do I see the Electric fakestang?

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Kind of already is overheating.

tribal jolt
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Well no shit

elder basin
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That engine is probably gonna fail in 20 minutes at most

tribal jolt
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I'm trying to get to 100

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Oh yeah plus me also driving

elder basin
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I think your engine isn't gonna like that

tribal jolt
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I've been trying to make it hit 100 for like 10 minutes

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Oh yeah I'm also low on gas

elder basin
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I'd bet your gas is gonna go before the engine goes'

tribal jolt
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Well no shit it's on E I'm slowing down

elder basin
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Wait how are you typing and driving? that's dangerous

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I've driven at 100+ mph, you can't 1 handed drive that fast

tribal jolt
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@elder basin I'm out of gas now

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That was fun

elder basin
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I'd imagine it'd take you changing your gear ratio to hit 120

tribal jolt
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It cooled Down a little bit

hybrid charm
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Gemballa F355, some of the photos I have of this car are rare

blissful lagoon
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F355 berlinetta? Nice

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Aftermarket wheels

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And roll cage

hybrid charm
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Its an aftermarket car, made by Gemballa, I talked with one of their employees, but even them don't know where this car is

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Photos of this car are scarce

blissful lagoon
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Im pretty sure you could find pictures of it online somewhere

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Like

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as soon as you search it up

hybrid charm
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Nah, I had to use wayback machine

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and access their website in the 2000s

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some pics are out there, but not all of them

blissful lagoon
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If you have the means to get the pictures and they still exist and are easy to find, they ain't rare, the car maybe the pictures? Nah, unless they are hand taken and were never uploaded

delicate grotto
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@hybrid charm the main reason why vics were muscle cars was because 1. The mustang was the pony car of the trio, 2. The Torino (the proper muscle car) was canceled, and 3. The dodge charger turned into a luxury car at that time

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So the vic became a 2 door V8 slingshot of 70s and 80s spongecake suspension

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It was more sporty than the competition to say the least though just because it was fairly smaller VampySmug

delicate grotto
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Yeah before muscle car was termed they were super cars

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That’s where the “super stock series” came to be

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Which then turned into nasker

hybrid charm
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You know what

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The Mustang is a muscle car

jagged sentinel
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... No

hybrid charm
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Source: Need For Speed Carbon

delicate grotto
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No no no no you’re going to upset people

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Oop

jagged sentinel
hybrid charm
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You cant deny the facts

delicate grotto
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Fuck you got me there

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If razor drives it it’s clearly muscle and not pony KEKW

jagged sentinel
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Yeah I guess I'll just go die then

delicate grotto
jagged sentinel
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Looks like a generic 70s luxury shitbox to me

delicate grotto
jagged sentinel
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I know

delicate grotto
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Good

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Because there’s proof that anything can be a muscle car VampySmug

jagged sentinel
delicate grotto
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Turbo i4 chargers

jagged sentinel
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It was the first car that knew what it was

delicate grotto
jagged sentinel
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Impala was more luxury

delicate grotto
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Impala was more V8 than anything

jagged sentinel
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It wasn't very sporty tho

delicate grotto
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They couldn’t really make it sporty or else the public would hate it

hybrid charm
delicate grotto
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Mfw the challenger was fucking larger than the charger for that era KEKW

jagged sentinel
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The muscle car died in the early 70s

delicate grotto
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Because turbo V6s saved America for a tiny bit

jagged sentinel
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A muscle with a V6 isn't a muscle car

delicate grotto
jagged sentinel
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And pony cars aren't big enough to be muscle cars

delicate grotto
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You really wanna die on that hill?

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Oof

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Safe to say anything goes with muscle car terminology

jagged sentinel
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That's a luxury car

delicate grotto
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You did not just call a GNX a luxury car

jagged sentinel
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Indeed I did

delicate grotto
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But like why?

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Are you gonna call the monte carlo a motorhome too?

jagged sentinel
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Because I'm tired

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But I'm not the one who called the challenger a muscle car

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Anyway, I require sleep

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G'night

blissful lagoon
delicate grotto
blissful lagoon
delicate grotto
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So suck it @jagged sentinel when you get back, I’m technically right but in the wrong ways KEKW

blissful lagoon
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For challengers

delicate grotto
blissful lagoon
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Oh yea

delicate grotto
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The 2nd gen challenger was longer than the charger making it the true muscle car

blissful lagoon
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80s shitboxes, hit different

delicate grotto
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Yeah who would of expected the challenger was a lwb charger

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Scary times

blissful lagoon
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,also the fact that the daytona/Conquests were literally just rebadged starions says that Mitsubishi kinda helped us

delicate grotto
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Yup

blissful lagoon
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then after that we got daimler Chrysler

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thanks Mercedes Sunglasso

delicate grotto
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(Btw for size comparison the challenger had a length of 4570 while the charger was 4400)

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Slightly longer but long enough to make them swap roles

blissful lagoon
#

Tbh while this whole dark age for their cars happened something greater happened with them

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their trucks

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one way to get past rules, build muscle trucks

delicate grotto
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Another way was to revamp V6s

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And buick shined in with the world’s most known V6 muscle car

blissful lagoon
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It worked

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Til the 90s

delicate grotto
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I mean it wasn’t the first

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Just remember one of the first pioneers for muscle cars was V6 and FWD

blissful lagoon
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Its, interesting

delicate grotto
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Interesting to say the least but it’s very much a muscle car

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No matters how weird it was there wasn’t any technicalities to not make it a true muscle car

blissful lagoon
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Those wheels

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love them

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Wait so technically if i stuff a 4.0L v8 into my minivan it can be a "muscle car"

delicate grotto
blissful lagoon
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Yes but 4.0L McLaren v8

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also typhoon is technically a muscle truck but yea i see where your coming from

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Technically still muscle so i guess its a muscle car

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Its confusing

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Wait I've been calling the 80s charger a hatch back this whole time when thats mostly the omni

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Im stupid

gilded kelp
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At the dealership my mom works at they have an army green dodge charger srt hellcat in used cars 😯 and i didnt know they looked so good in person

burnt badge
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are those spiked tirebolts?

tribal jolt
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@elder basin I did it

gilded kelp
burnt badge
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clickbait

gilded kelp
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I didnt pay attention tho

blissful lagoon
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I remember seeing a hellcat challenger in that same color last year

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sexy beast

tribal jolt
kind osprey
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People on the street be like “omg awesome Bentley”

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😎

old sedge
#

Is Bentley better than RR?

proper elbow
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Rolls Royce have always been a bit more opulent than Bentley afaik. They are also considerably more expensive. With that said, if I wanted to drive myself, I'd probably go for a bentley. If I wanted to be driven, I'd go with RR.

kind osprey
# old sedge Is Bentley better than RR?

Rolls Royce and Bentley have been almost the same company from the early 1900’s to the time they departed into different parent companies, Rolls Royce to Bmw. Then Bentley to the AG group (Volkswagen)

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For that span of time Rolls Royce was like the old people plushy luxury

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And Bentley was an equivalent of how amg is to Mercedes

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Bentley’s were the same car but usually higher power and more sporty.

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Bentley started out in racing and have a huge racing heritage, so they have always been about speed all around. However they are more of plushy grand tourers than an acutely supercar.

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Similar to Aston martin coupes

kind osprey
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In the end it’s about what you desire in a car and what you prefer. Because anybody buying a new Bentley or Rolls isn’t considering price as a factor

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Rolls Royce uses custom chassis and relies less in BMW now so they are only gonna feel better and better.

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Bentley has always been I guess my style over the two. Bentley’s are more subtle and have that huge racing heritage still tied into the dna of the brand till this day.

echo locust
blissful lagoon
kind osprey
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The good viper

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Before it had senseless stuff like... windows... and locks... and climate control

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Smh

heady swift
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driving a vehicle that isn't a coffin? Pff

kind osprey
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No thrill in that

blissful lagoon
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See just get the 96, it's basically a 95 but a roof so the leather doesn't go bad

gilded kelp
#

What does a pickup coil do and how expensive are they

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Cus i see me a first gen Nissan 300zx in my future that needs one replaced

boreal oak
blissful lagoon
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Slap it

proper elbow
hybrid charm
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If I saw someone stealing this car in front of me I would say "go ahead, let's see how far you can go..."

kind osprey
#

Lol

old sedge
kind osprey
#

Rolls Royce recently has changed it’s image drastically when it comes to being only a chauffeur car. They make more smaller models now along with the Suv which all can very well be cars you are chauffeured in, but have a lot of custom features and idea that appeal to people in the 20’s and 30’s

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Rather than just older people

old sedge
#

Rolls Royce is one of the most prestigious luxury vehicles after all

kind osprey
#

Back then every car manufacturer used to be the most prestigious luxury vehicle because they were all toys for rich people. As the car became more and more popularized those ultra luxury brands seemed to meet their maker between the world wars. The ones that survived usually became more affordable and lost their touch in order to appeal to a broader market. I feel like the only four companies off the top of my head who stuck to their roots 110% and didn’t sellout cough Cadillac cough are Rolls Royce, Bentley, Aston Martin, and Bugatti

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Companies like Cadillac, Lincoln, and Maserati used to be the highest end of prestigious like Bentley and Rolls Royce but they soon were bought out by other brands and there was more money in just shoving a cheaper vehicles chassis on them and keeping the luxury brand name.

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That way you can sell the same car for $10,000 more

old sedge
#

Isn't Ford designed to be cheap so everyone could own one?

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That was said to be the goal of Henry Ford

kind osprey
#

Yea Ford was more of a people’s car company and they delivered on that make making a shit ton of them and popularizing a personal vehicle

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Now ford just makes average priced cars because the average is affordable, it hasn’t been an outlier in 100 years

old sedge
#

Many people here hate Ford because they say Ford is "unreliable".

kind osprey
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Well in most cases they would be correct

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Some platforms that Ford makes are bullet proof and can easily last hundreds of thousands of miles without too much crazy maintenance.

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But the other half of the company strives to make dogshit

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It was a much more prevalent issue back then

old sedge
#

But at the same time, many people here don't even read their car owner manuals so they just follow the scheduled oil change and gas and go

kind osprey
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Like 80’s-early 2000’s

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Well um what are you supposed to do besides general basics of taking care of the car

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A ford isn’t going to survive just because you read it a bedtime story lol if they had an issue they were gonna fail

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The main issues I could only assume were more on the electrical side

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Much like Cadillac in that time period

old sedge
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Many people here complained about one Ford SUV model here because of turbocharger issues

kind osprey
#

Cadillacs and Lincolns of that era in particular were horrendous you could turn on the radio and the windshield wipers would come on lol

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It was one of the two that had that specific issue

old sedge
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Wow, that's unusual.

kind osprey
#

How I see it is unless it’s Japanese, every car brand will have their croaking issues when the car starts to age.

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Some more than others though

old sedge
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Some people think Toyota can last decades due to old Toyota vehicles.

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But I don't know if it's still good considering EU and US want a transition to EVs in 2030-2040 unless it gets delayed

kind osprey
#

The combustion engine I believe will still have use and reach it’s peak between 2040-2050 and then after that there won’t be much need for them in vehicles anymore.

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They won’t ever be illegal to drive in most places since older cars get less restriction upon inspections on top of the fact that less people will own them over decades of battery improvements and density and how to replenish that energy.

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The main issue with electric is still the same issue they’ve had since the 1800’s. Energy density.

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Once we combat that issue with better and better batteries along with faster charging, that is all we need

old sedge
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The slower charging sure is a disadvantage compared to refueling time of a combustion engine.

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Even 5-10 mins of charging time is slow compared to refueling a car with combustion engine.

kind osprey
#

Nah if we can charge from like 5% to 80% in only 10 minutes thats actually faster than a gas car depending on the battery density, and range of the car usually due to the shape

old sedge
#

How about hybrids and hydrogen powered cars?

kind osprey
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Hydrogen probably isn’t going anywhere huge but the concept technology is interesting

old sedge
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But the time to refuel a gas car itself takes only seconds.

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1 minute at most.

kind osprey
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Hybrids will in the future be electric/solar or electric/hydrogen

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Gas hybrids will die out with gas

kind osprey
old sedge
#

Nope

kind osprey
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My grand Cherokee takes like 4 minutes to fill

old sedge
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Well, cars here aren't really big

kind osprey
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It takes a while to get 16 gallons out of a little filtered regulation meeting nozzle

old sedge
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Because more than 95% of cars here are imports and taxes on imported cars here are extremely ungodly so Grand Cherokee here is expensive as hell.

kind osprey
#

Singapore?

old sedge
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Ph

kind osprey
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Philippines?

old sedge
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Sadly, yes

kind osprey
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I didn’t know they had one of those overpriced taxes on cars there

old sedge
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They do.

kind osprey
#

A Toyota Camry in Singapore is like $74,000 or some dumb shit like that

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It’s absolute theft

old sedge
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A Honda Civic Type R here costs $66,209.30, a Mustang 2.3L Ecoboost here costs $59,505.08

kind osprey
#

You basically pay double what the car is worth in tax unless it’s electric I think

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So what are you allowed to drive there that doesn’t cost a fortune due to theft tax

old sedge
#

Singapore's reason is to regulate traffic flow and I think that's quite understandable considering how small Singapore is and the public transport there is really, really nice and safe so people there don't really need cars there.

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Our gov't's reason for imposing ungodly taxes on imported cars is not to regulate taxes, it's to protect locally made cars.

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But Ph car brands failed anyway.

kind osprey
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I hate how I had to be born into the most expensive hobby, couldn’t I just like drawing, or dancing or something

old sedge
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And recently, our gov't imposed additional safeguard tariffs on imported cars damn it.

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That's why in youtube and disqus comments of car review sites, I'm calling out on people to boycott our car industry so the gov't will be forced to remove it if enough people boycott it or it will cause damage to the industry if they don't.

kind osprey
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Yea taxing something as necessary as transportation just ruins the way a country looks unless you have mono jet trains and spotless fast ass transportation in every single area

old sedge
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We don't. People justify it because transport here is reasonable and easily accessible but public transport here(they're called jeepneys) are obsolete and unsafe. Many of them don't even have blinkers, headlights and brake lights, they're heavy smoke belchers as well.

kind osprey
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Rip

old sedge
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And while we just made Euro 4 as our standard last 2017, Europe is pushing for Euro 6.

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And since you talked about a Toyota Camry, a Toyota Camry's lowest trim here costs $39,267.53. Its engine is 2.5L gas engine which is not even the new 2.5L Dynamic Force engine so the Camry's engine's output is only 181hp and 231Nm of torque.

blissful lagoon
old sedge
#

And at first, I thought RR is an engine. 🤣

hybrid charm
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Dis I just read a full on convo in here-

burnt badge
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ye wtf

hybrid charm
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Lol

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It's refreshing

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Knowing all that stuff

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We need a school of carz

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Not just "mechanical engineering"

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Anyways, idk much abt cars tbh, at least compared to you guys who had this long ass convo

burnt badge
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i usually dont read stuff thats longer that a sentence thats why i always get books with pictures

old sedge
hybrid charm
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You and epik had a full on convo dude

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I mean

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You might not be an expert in fixing cars

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But well y'all know much about cars in general

old sedge
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That long convo ended up with me ranting about import and safeguard taxes imposed on imported cars here.

hybrid charm
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Ah well ye

burnt badge
#

apple car momment

hybrid charm
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Lol

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The futuristic cars look weird sometimes

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And sometimes some features don't even make sense

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For example, that bmw futuristic car

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With those live parts

ocean rock
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...thats a mercedes EQ concept.

burnt badge
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you mean like the futuristic beammer

hybrid charm
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I forgot the name lol

burnt badge
hybrid charm
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Ah yea sorry, I don't remember names sadly

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Bruh network

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:/

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Finally

ocean rock
hybrid charm
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Ah yes

burnt badge
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dang

old sedge
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What's the iRobot car the main character used?

ocean rock
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Not like it matters, bad CG still bad CG.

burnt badge
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haven't seen this one yet

ocean rock
hybrid charm
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Ooh

burnt badge
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drifting but without drifting

hybrid charm
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Lol

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Ppl will miss drifting in the future

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If all the cars start hovering

burnt badge
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tbh im pretty sure it will have like an autopilot that can do it

hybrid charm
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No friction

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No fun

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Ah, well those will cost more

burnt badge
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transporter edition

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lmao

hybrid charm
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Lol

burnt badge
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ngl i dont see people driving in the near future

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maybe as a hobby

hybrid charm
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Yea

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Automation is better too actually

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Would be lot faster

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And safer

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And it won't be your fault if u hit smthn/someone

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It'll be the manufacturer's

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:>

burnt badge
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unless you install a transporter autopilot

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what would kinda suck is that everybody gonna own a vehicle

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since you probably wont even need a licence for it

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so unless they find a way to make traffic flow driving anywhere would probably be slower then walking

hybrid charm
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Ooh

hybrid charm
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Actually

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Becuz, robots can communicate faster than humans

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You take 20 sec to speak a sentence, and robots can send thousands of info in just a sec

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So like, there won't even be red lights at cross sections

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They'll just keep going smoothly

burnt badge
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it looks horrible

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looks like somebody imported the pay day 2 graphics

heady swift
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@jovial acornWrong channel for that. We have a #gta-vehicles channel

hybrid charm
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Saw this today, need eye bleach PLZZ ;-;

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Sorry for poor pic quality, my phone's like 14 mp or smthn lol

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But like, who tf puts 2 tone doors and a custom spoiler on an I20

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And that too, civilian version

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And the exhaust

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Damn

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My fart sounds better than this

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And what hurts me even more is that my dad owns the same car, and I know how shitty the custom job on that car is ;-;

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Sorry, just wanted to rant-

old sedge
#

What country is that?

mossy mesa
royal gulch
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2021 Audi RS3 LMS

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Engine: 2.0L Inline 4 Turbo
Weight: -
Power: 250 kW / 335 hp / 340 PS
0-100 kph: -
Torque: -
Top Speed: -

old sedge
#

Guys, what do you think about Scotty Kilmer and his videos about cars?

royal gulch
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I think about hikari

blissful lagoon
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That was a while back

old sedge
#

For some reason, I couldn't understand why he would have a video title saying that Toyota is the most reliable in 1 video then a week later, another video he would upload has a title about why Toyota is not reliable.

blissful lagoon
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It might be about certain cars that toyota built

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He'll say toyota is 1# reliability and then talk about certain Toyota's that were turdyotas

silver lintel
rotund totem
jovial sable
#

gremlin?

blissful lagoon
#

Pinto

hybrid charm
old sedge
#

Oh

gilded kelp
#

R/countablepixels

ocean rock
jagged sentinel
gilded kelp
ocean rock
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here's have an invert of that livery.

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thats not countable, pixel wise

gilded kelp
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That’s nice

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I was joking bruh

ocean rock
#

oreca viper 😩

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i know

gilded kelp
old sedge
#

Blue with white stripes is the best.

gilded kelp
#

Blue with blue stripes blobJustRight

mossy mesa
#

did someone say VIper

idle shard
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So ummm

old sedge
barren hawk
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did this for a class

hybrid charm
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hm peepoThink

barren hawk
jovial sable
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i like that car

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especially in 4k

terse axle
#

i didnt realize the skyline was so rare in the US

barren hawk
#

yea

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only a handful legal in the u.s

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plus not many were made

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once it becomes legal in 2024 i think prices are gonna skyrocket

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supply cannot meet demand

hybrid charm
#

Yeah not like they can build more

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Some young people will probably buy it and have to sell it due to high prices

terse axle
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i can walk about 500 meters and theres a skyline

barren hawk
#

an r34?

terse axle
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idk

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think so

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dont know if its an r34

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but its a skyline

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i have seen one driving past me before tho

barren hawk
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mhm nice

old sedge
#

I have a question though. Why was the Skyline GT-R R34 banned in the US?

barren hawk
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25 year import law

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back then u were free to import any car u wanted

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just had to go through testing

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but most people forgot

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and motor wrecks got greedy

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with their imports

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they were only approved to import r32s at the time

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and then they just brought r34s and r33s telling them they were r32s

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i think

old sedge
#

Oh...

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I wish car imports have no custom duties and import taxes but those are illusions now.

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Heavy import taxes and custom duties would just encourage people to smuggle cars.

jagged sentinel
#

They were never crash-tested or emission-tuned to america's standards

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TL:DR

mossy mesa
barren hawk
old sedge
#

Oh yes, I want more

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So that's why R34 was banned

barren hawk
#

any car younger than 25 years cannot be legally imported

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unless

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u have over 1 mil

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u pay all those fees and the cars price

mossy mesa
#

They can also be imported as show cars but u can only drive them for limited miles every year

old sedge
#

1mil? Then what about the Toyotas in the US?

mossy mesa
#

What bout em?

barren hawk
old sedge
#

Oh

barren hawk
#

that wasn't made*

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yea

old sedge
#

You mean cars that are not being sold in the American market which are younger than 25 years? Such as cars which are sold only in Asia?

mossy mesa
#

Yeah

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Or only on EU

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Or Australia

old sedge
#

Oh

mossy mesa
#

Or all of the above

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This reminds me of the Volkswagen diesel thang

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XD

barren hawk
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like the toyota century

old sedge
#

Looks luxurious

barren hawk
#

it is

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supposed to compete with rolls royces

mossy mesa
#

It's the Asian Rolly polly

barren hawk
#

lel

mossy mesa
#

There is a Chinese one too

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I think it's called the donkey

old sedge
#

I'm not really fond of Chinese built cars because I have yet to see how long will they last

mossy mesa
#

XD

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Yeah

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I don't think they will be reliable

old sedge
#

Many people here buy Chinese cars just because of their price.

mossy mesa
#

Where?

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Phoenix ?

old sedge
#

I hate Toyota here

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But I sure love Toyota in RotW

mossy mesa
#

Oh

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I mean there r good Toyota's too

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I like the new supra

jagged sentinel
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Toyota Pickup

mossy mesa
#

And the Yaris GR

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That's the second FWD hatchback I like

jagged sentinel
#

I think the Chinese luxury car you're on about it the Hongqi

mossy mesa
#

Toyata Land cruiser

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Ohh

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XD

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Hahahahaha

jagged sentinel
#

It's pronounced hong Chee

old sedge
#

Like look what Toyota did to the Corolla's infotainment system here. Mind you this is the most expensive variant.

mossy mesa
#

Ohh right

jagged sentinel
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But honky is funnier

mossy mesa
#

U jokin

jagged sentinel
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So we say that instead

mossy mesa
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That's a smol phone

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That should not be called info sys

jagged sentinel
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That should not be the most expensive option

old sedge
#

I'm not joking

mossy mesa
#

That's just pathetic

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It's worse than the cheapest one I'm sure

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XD

jagged sentinel
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All you need is bluetooth imo

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Hell, an aux cable will do fine if I'm going to go that route

mossy mesa
#

Yeah

jagged sentinel
#

iirc you can stream radio channels through the internet

mossy mesa
#

Lol

old sedge
#

Hell, even a Land Cruiser here has that kind of infotainment system.

mossy mesa
#

U don't even need a radio

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Ahahahahaah

jagged sentinel
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I got my Spotify

mossy mesa
#

Just get a Bluetooth speaker buoy that's gonna do better

old sedge
#

But... we're not getting what we paid for. 😦

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No android auto/apple carplay...

jagged sentinel
#

On the topic of prices, hopefully the 7th generation camaro is more of a camaro then the current one

mossy mesa
#

I don't think there will be a camaro

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They cancelling it by 2023

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I think

jagged sentinel
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This isn't the first time they've put the camaro ok hiatus

old sedge
#

Is Camaro considered expensive or just a normal or affordable sports car?

jagged sentinel
#

The current generation camaro is approaching corvette levels of pricing and performance

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that's not what it's supposed to do

old sedge
#

Oh

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If that's the case, then it might not make many sales

jagged sentinel
mossy mesa
#

I hate the new GM grills

old sedge
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Those 2 cars would have "internal competition"...

jagged sentinel
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They sold significantly less camaros then challengers and mustangs

mossy mesa
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They don't look too good now

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I would choose Corvette over Camaro

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Dodge is selling the Hellcat

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2017 was the last year the camaro looked good imo

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Ez money for dem

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Dodge is doing their own thing in the sports car scene

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Yeah

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How will Dodge replace their Viper?

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Officially, they're competing with the mustang and camaro and what not

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Hellcat in a minivan

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But on the down low

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They won't

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We both know that dodge doesn't really care much about what the competition is doing

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Yeah

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See dodge challenger hellcat, see jeep trackhawk, see dodge demon, see dodge viper, see ram TRX

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At least they really care for their customers. Am I right?

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Meh

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The hellcat was kinda a shot in the dark

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And I'm really tempted to buy a Ford but people complain about its reliability issues.

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They had no idea what was going to happen with the hellcat when put into the market

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That's true

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But to their surprise, it sold. Very, very well

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But Ford says their cars are tough, that's why their slogan is "Built Ford Tough".

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It's still selling

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And

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Yeah

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With the TRX being a thing now, it means chevy is the only one without a balls-to-the-wall performance offroad truck

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Chevy is struggling to sell their cars in SE Asia...

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Yeah

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Chevy is mostly focused on the US and Canada

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U seen the new Tahoe?

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Nah

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It's ugly from the front

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Same with the Escalade

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Chevy cars here are cheap but only few people buy those still.

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Oh god, the Chevy Blazer

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I miss Hummer...

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XD

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Chevy you done fucked up with the blazer

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Especially since ford basically spit on your boots with the new bronco

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Honestly idk what GM is doin

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I don't either

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If they abandoned the camaro completely, it would hurt chevy's performance image

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Trust GM

mossy mesa
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Honestly I think Chevy was thinking of dropping the maro

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They just need to tone the camaro down

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Decreases the price, decrease the performance

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Yeah

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That's what killed the 6th gen camaro

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Plus the visibility was infamously bad

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The windows are too small, I noticed that

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It wasn't that

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Maybe

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The C-pillars were completely compromising blind-spot

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But the Camaro looks really cool.

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Just maybe Chevy is working on a new Pony car to replace the maro

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Drivers had to rely on technology

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Didn't they test windowless cars?

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Did they?

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Not GM

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But I saw an article or a video years ago about it, they just used cameras

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The law would not like that

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We can't even use cameras as side mirrors

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There are rumors that the 7th gen camaro could be electric

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Like what Mitsubishi is gonna do to Evo?

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Although they want to make Evo an electric SUV

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I would stop liking chevrolet as a company if they did that

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But they have to