transportation

[jagged sentinel]

Of course that comes naturally to car people, but not everyone who had a Countach, Testarossa or even a Cuda as a poster car ended up sticking with cars as an interest or hobby

[static gale]

teehee, i had a Testarossa poster

hahaha, i was typing it before you edited it, too, i guess it was just that common

[jagged sentinel]

It's an ironic 80s car, no two ways about it

I just forgot that the 512 TR was a later model of the Testarossa from the 90s

[static gale]

I never knew anything about those cars as a kid. I just got this book that had Porsche on one side, and Ferrari on the other

[jagged sentinel]

I'm not sure which one was more popular; the Testarossa or Countach

[static gale]

and I was also a fan of the Cuda the first time i briefly saw it on some car-related show. The guy was really adamant on the "It's a 'Cuda! Not a Barracuda!"

[jagged sentinel]

Yes, that is a real distinction and not just theatrics

[static gale]

i just feel like i can remember the tone of voice, even though it was like, at least 10 years ago

[jagged sentinel]

The models most people think of when someone mentions it are the 70-74 models, which were just sold as "Cuda"

Prior models had the full name

I am burdened with the knowledge of golden-era American muscle semantics

Like how the Camaro and Challenger weren't muscle cars

Not a relevant distinction now because the Muscle Car as a segment in the market is pretty much dead

But back then they were considered distinct

It's also a little funny how many people fail to make the connection between the mustang and the pony car despite it being right in front of them

Maybe that's just my smugness though

[onyx rivet]

i guess understand what you mean with the AMG One, it does seem sterile

while i also agree that the One isnt overly pretty or striking

i kinda don't agree that One isnt bedroom poster material

[jagged sentinel]

It certainly isn't ugly

It could work with a background that fits with the theme of the vehicle

[dire shard]

naw i think it's ugly, and i don't think that's an unpopular opinion either

[jagged sentinel]

I don't think it's particularly good looking

But I don't think it's "ugly"

I'd honestly rather have the back end on a poster

[dire shard]

the back doesn't look bad

i think even the side profile is pretty good

the front is absolutely over

the way it shares zero of the mercedes/amg design language is the least of its concerns

[mental lion]

Yeah pretty dull front end

[rotund badge]

i'm starting to love the 4g firebird

[fast edge]

i must be extra special because my poster car is a renault 5

[silent oak]

Mine was the 90s NSX

[kind osprey]

Yea they were lackluster

[silent oak]

Hello yappers chat

[jagged sentinel]

Kinda based ngl

[fast edge]

almost 20 years later and i still have it

[jagged sentinel]

Even better

[silent oak]

The rally one?

Or the normal

[fast edge]

no no

[silent oak]

I wish I had a group b poster

[fast edge]

no rally no turbo just the little guy

[silent oak]

The boring one

[jagged sentinel]

All my homies love the Renault 5

[silent oak]

I love the group b Renault 5

[night steeple]

the group b is sooo much different from this like damn

[silent oak]

It’s prettier:3

I want a rally car so bad

[onyx rivet]

le car

[worn steeple]

Wsp

[silent oak]

Heyyo

[worn steeple]

Hru

[bleak sail]

hi

[modern oasis]

Ie flex tape holding it together?

[silent oak]

Barely

It’s an Altima, it already goes faster then a hyper car on a highway

[night steeple]

came back from a 700km road trip, car did 8l/100km, which I thought was alright, because it goes up to 12 at worst in city traffic lol

it drank oil tho, by the time i got back its got half oil in the dipstick

[kind osprey]

Volkswagen?

[night steeple]

volvo, but ford engine

i looked for some explanation seems like the oil level shoudnt be an issue if its half in the dipstick

[coarse flame]

Hi

[night steeple]

i hear ya man

also the marketing term "sleek" fuck you your SUV is not sleek that word has been ruined forever

[fleet owl]

And then there's my car which does 32 mpg in city traffic, 32 on motorway

Want more 😔

[sage roost]

thats 7.3L/100km

Thats not enough?

Our car also gets approximately 8l/100km in the city

[modern gazelle]

I need help in deciding b/w two vehicles:
Skoda Kodiaq Mk2
Volvo XC60 B5 Uktmated(used MY24 and it's been driven 4900kms so practically new)

What should I buy?

One more concern I have I that the kodiaq gets 9 airbags while the Volvo gets 6(even at the highest trim level) will be an issue when it comes to safety?

[kind osprey]

Safety issue and Volvo are not something that can be in the same sentence

[modern gazelle]

I have already crash test the old gen kodiaq a few weeks ago so I know the new is going to be pretty safe since I am alive

[kind osprey]

💀

We don't have those in the US so idk how Skodas are

[modern gazelle]

True but only six airbags?

[modern gazelle]

Some 22year old college kid was driving wrong side on the highwa

[kind osprey]

It's a smaller car so that is probably all it needs

[kind osprey]

Oh shit, that's scary I'm glad you're all good

Fuckin drunks

[modern gazelle]

XC 60 is a midsize suv

[kind osprey]

Volvo's are perfect boring daily cars, they have no flash, but they are built like tanks and so much stuff is in house

[modern gazelle]

There were 3 people travelling in the car and only one of em got stitches so hats off skti da and euro ncap

[kind osprey]

I like Volvo

[modern gazelle]

Sadly the new ones are limited to doing 180kmph

Which is 112mph

Even in a 400hp S90

[kind osprey]

Yea that's pretty goofy but at least it is still at a speed you probably won't be doing often

112mph is good enough for most places

[modern gazelle]

One rhing to note the kodiaq basically gets almost all the features of the XC60, is it really increasing maintainance ost for no reason?

[kind osprey]

If you had a Skoda and liked it then you're probably better off getting another one

[modern gazelle]

Also no physical Aircon controls in Volvo

Unlike the Kodiaq

[sage roost]

Volvos are the perfect "stealth wealth" vehicles

[modern gazelle]

Only sad thing is that even a 455hp Volvo cannot go over 180kmph/112mph

[static gale]

Just™️ remove the limiter.

[modern gazelle]

You gotta fuck with ecu for that tho

Too much trouble something so simple

[static gale]

Exactly

[modern gazelle]

And void the warranty on your car💀

[static gale]

Just accept the call on your phone to get it extended™️

[modern gazelle]

Anyways it's kinda crazy to me how they're giving massage seats in a skoda

[modern gazelle]

How's the grand cherokee rho?

From what ive heard jeep doesn't exactly have the best brakes

[static gale]

I wouldn't know anything about new cars like that

[modern gazelle]

lol fair

[silent oak]

Man Chrysler has a strange QA

The challenger / charger have good motors cuz they are “high performance”

[jagged sentinel]

Lifter tick would like to have a word

[silent oak]

Yeah.. I know that all too well

They ain’t no corolla motor but reliability aside for cool

[fleet owl]

on the motorway nah not enough as I'd want

city driving it gets the manufacturer's estimated mpg. But for motorway these cars never reach as high as they estimate for some reason

[dire shard]

the number of airbags you have is slightly less relevant compared to the location where they're at

the xc60 has airbags in all the usual places: Driver, Passenger, 2 Curtain, Driver Side, Front Passenger Side
(source)
(source)

the kodiaq has the same ones, but with two additional passenger side airbags and one additional airbag between the driver and front passenger seat to prevent them from bonking heads
this is pretty unusual and as skoda says themselves, a pretty novel feature
it's up to you whether you think you want that or not
(source)

[silent oak]

Do you mfs know any basic bitch cars that have a nice interior?

[naive thorn]

Don't cuss please

And a nice interior and basic would be a Mercedes C class

[silent oak]

Are they “affordable” for mercs

[naive thorn]

Well you can try A class too

They are discontinued though

But still 2022 ish i guess

[silent oak]

How bout bmw

Are any of them in the same category as “nice” and basic

[naive thorn]

They are a bit behind in the newest models, they just don't know what to do

Interior wise

[silent oak]

Soo merc is better imo? For comfortable interior

[naive thorn]

Maybe try a lexus too

ES are nice

[silent oak]

I know it’s me being American asf but an charger SXT

They have a seriously comfy interior

[naive thorn]

Yeah murican cars have good interiors

[silent oak]

Even your standard American shitbox Chrysler has a good taste in leather

[naive thorn]

But speaking from experience, I can tell you this
E class 2019 ish modle
Lexus ES 2022

These are comfy and nice

[silent oak]

Like limo comfy?

[naive thorn]

Never been in a limo lol

[silent oak]

Plush leather nice set up on the dash

[naive thorn]

I can grant you'd be surprised with the lexus

[silent oak]

I’ve been in one, in Vegas

[naive thorn]

It's so quite

Very comfy on the road

[silent oak]

Driving a nice Lexus sounds nice for a mid west trip

AWD?

[naive thorn]

I don't think so

That would be the GS

But I have no idea about it

[silent oak]

Ty car chatto

Is ford good on interiors?

[naive thorn]

Never been in one

I've been in SUVs

[silent oak]

The explorer?

[naive thorn]

Nah

[silent oak]

I keep finding cheaper 2000s Mustang GT’s

[naive thorn]

General motor stuff

[silent oak]

So Chevy baby

[naive thorn]

I wouldn't expect a comfy interior in a sports car

[naive thorn]

Yez

Tahoe and the gmc one

Whatever the name

Yokun

[silent oak]

I like em tahoes

[naive thorn]

These were nice to ride

[silent oak]

Not that luxury but certainly cool

[naive thorn]

Yeah

[silent oak]

Compared to what our modern day suburbans are..

They are simple, suburbans are huuuge

[naive thorn]

True

[silent oak]

Double U huge

A used Lexus sounds nice

As long as they keep the interior clean

[naive thorn]

Yeah

[silent oak]

And it runs usually

[naive thorn]

You can try the LS if you wanna get second hand

Top of the line

[silent oak]

I like a comfy car for long drives

[naive thorn]

It is

5.0 V8

[silent oak]

Even dodge makes comfy cars but the gas money is bad

You get sub 20 mpg, not a problem for me

[naive thorn]

Look for a hybrid maybe

[silent oak]

I want a good road trip car for coast to coast

[naive thorn]

[silent oak]

NOT A PRIUS

[naive thorn]

The LS then

But it might be fuel hungry since v8

[naive thorn]

There's a LS600h
5.0 V8 hybrid

Perfect imo

But I guess it will cost a fortune

The base LS500 receives EPA fuel economy ratings of 18 mpg city and 29 mpg highway and the AWD version checks in at 17 and 27 mpg, respectively. The LS500h hybrid’s 22 mpg city and 29 mpg highway ratings are better but are offset by its significantly higher price.

Good performance for a V8

I'll buy for myself now

Suki died

[dire shard]

tuna car

[naive thorn]

Tru

[silent oak]

Tuna car

Can I eat it?

[dire shard]

no it's literally tuna's car

i don't know about basic bitch car, because this is actually a really cool car

but the stinger gt has a decent interior

it's pretty comparable to the g70's interior (shit, they're like the same car underneath anyways)

[silent oak]

Is a stinger gt affordable ?

[dire shard]

you can't buy one new, but i think they go for okay prices used

[silent oak]

So challenger used price?

[dire shard]

maybe more

dunno

never kept up with either of those

[silent oak]

It’s either that or a motorcycle

[dire shard]

that sounds completely the opposite of what you want

[silent oak]

Harley’s cool!

But I want a comfy limo like interior for a car

Like how Mazdas / Lexus, mercs have a great deal for interior design

[dire shard]

mercedes interior quality has fallen off

[silent oak]

How old can you get be good with one

[dire shard]

pre 2018

even then, they replaced their shit with funny screens

not a fan

[silent oak]

So leather went vegan leather

?

[dire shard]

their leather is still leather, but their panels are flexy and you can push them in

shit rattles

this is not why you buy a merc

not the quality you wanted

[silent oak]

That why you buy a g wagon?

The rich girls first car?

[dire shard]

if you're in the market for a g wagon your definition of a basic bitch car is out of my budget

[silent oak]

Would you say a challenger is a basic car?

[dire shard]

my lawyer has advised me not to answer that question

[silent oak]

Idk I want a car that I can lay in comfortably like a Lexus lmao

Limo ahh interior

[dire shard]

you are looking for an suv

[silent oak]

You read my mind girl

[dire shard]

put down the rear seats, throw down a bedroll and sleep

[silent oak]

I kind of like the Escalade lmao

But I get the ego of an Escalade driver

[dire shard]

we are no longer on speaking terms (your truck is too tall for me to speak into)

[silent oak]

Haha

But I’m poor so Escalade no

[dire shard]

some cars can't throw down the rear seats flat, so you'll have to look into that

[silent oak]

Yeee:3

[dire shard]

have fun i ain't know specifics

[silent oak]

Any good road trip cars?

Outside challengers

[dire shard]

stinger gt

[silent oak]

Sexy car

Remove the muffler too

[dire shard]

it's in the name

gt

(do not take that literally, this doesn't mean the mustang gt is a good road trip car)

(or it could be)

[silent oak]

They cheap (early 2000s ones)

[dire shard]

you could get an s550 pretty not bad price too tbh

[silent oak]

They nice to the eyes too

Paint em and clean the foggy headlight

[silent oak]

Are eco boosts cool here chat?

[dire shard]

no

[silent oak]

Only v6 above?

[dire shard]

i mean tbh i don't care, it's actually still quite a capable car

but i wouldn't be caught in one

[silent oak]

They pony cars

If you want impress the women you get the explorer

If you want to impress the crew you get the v8 gt

[kind osprey]

Random svj at a gas station

[kind osprey]

https://youtube.com/shorts/FLBzONm1Y_A?si=_Oh8fP3jvT_JFu_u

[worn steeple]

Nice

[azure oracle]

is the dashound worth it?

[mental lion]

As capable as a v6 accord

[quiet yew]

I'ma be fr

The g80 m3 has kinda been growing on me

Ignoring that big ass grill it looks pretty good

[modern gazelle]

Me too

[mental lion]

I’ve grown to like the kidney grills ngl

[sage roost]

At least it's something to differentiate the M3 with the regular 3 series cars

Unlike the 4 series where all of them look the same

[mental lion]

And it’s not that ugly when you look at newer bmw models

[kind osprey]

It still only works on the m3/m4

Every other bmw that uses it looks horrible, especially the ix idk how that thing sells

[kind osprey]

https://youtube.com/shorts/ybevDkIJBqs?si=FEg5t-k8HLGuWrKX

[silent oak]

its crazy how one state dont allow you to fill your own car

[tropic timber]

here in Greece we have people that fill our gas

[kind osprey]

Yea, the one I unfortunately have to live next to

[silent oak]

nj is a strange state

NJ desprately wants to NOT be Ny

[mental lion]

It’s a luxury if you ask me

Especially on a hot day

[silent oak]

id rather trust myself to fuel my own car

[silent oak]

i dont trust some low paid mf to fuel my car

[mental lion]

Tf is he gonna do bruh

[silent oak]

maybe accidentally grabbing normal rather then premium

[dire shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt0w1lX-D6I remember when the roma just came out

[mental lion]

Pretty sure they ask but yeah can happen

[mental lion]

Before vs before

They really connected the headlights and called it a mew model

[dire shard]

they really put the prius front on it and called it a new model

[silent oak]

finally Poverty spek rari

[dire shard]

always has been

[silent oak]

now the rappers can have a nice car that isnt a rental

[dire shard]

pov: you didn't wake up in a new bugatti

[silent oak]

mfw no buggati

[onyx rivet]

that's just a more awkward looking roma for the exterior

[onyx rivet]

i actually loved the idea that the M3/first-gen M4 were similar to the regular 3/4 series car

[dire shard]

prius ferrari

prius ferrari

[silent oak]

The rari

[quiet yew]

why didnt they just call in the roma facelift

too much pride?

too much arrogance to facelift a car cuz they think the first look of their car is always the best?

so they have more lawyers to sue people that arent as rich as em?

[onyx rivet]

la marketing spin

[quiet yew]

enzo ferrari aint shit

that arrogant asshole deserves nothing

[quiet yew]

or they're too arrogant and prideful and think their cars can only have 1 design

fuck ferrari

the entire company can go to hell where they belong

i hope the ferrari f80 fails

[onyx rivet]

to be fair, they've been doing this stunt during the 80s

im sure they've been doing it before that

so i guess now its just a historic practise 🙃

[dire shard]

i mean, what's the difference between a facelift and an entirely new car? if it's appearance and sharing body parts, what does that make the mp4-12c and 650s? if it's platform, what does that make the silvias 13-15?

i'm looking at this versus the roma and while it's definitely got kind of the same design, most of these body panels are different, the interior is completely different, there are entirely new functions in the car such as a pop-up rear spoiler

it's not just two new bumpers and new wheels

if looking too similar is a crime, what does that make the 458 and 488? f360 and f430? 348 and f355?

some people think this doesn't warrant a name change

i think there's no tangible definition for what warrants a name change and what counts as a refresh

[quiet yew]

The thing about the 458 and 488 is that the differences are obvious enough you can tell they are different cars

This on the other hand is literally just a flatter roma

[dire shard]

i disagree, they look exactly the same to most people (not people into cars)

i think the diferences between the roma and the amalfi are pretty obvious as well, but i wouldn't expect those same people to tell the difference

the two sets are comparable in my eyes

do i think it's lazy? well, i think it's exactly the same effort they put between the 458 and 488

whether you think that's a bad thing or not... well, you do

in my eyes, nearly every car manufacturer has done some variation of this

[onyx rivet]

maybe?

maybe its because they have the same silouette and shape but up to the second year of knowing the 488 GTB was a thing i always thought it was a deeply refreshed 458 Italia

[quiet yew]

Then there's the 488 pista

And that is wildly different from the 458

[onyx rivet]

maybe x2

[dire shard]

i was about to say

[onyx rivet]

the front i will concede

[dire shard]

if you're comparing variants, the 458 has the speciale

which also shares pretty similar visual upgrades to the pista, in terms of its hood hole thing

[onyx rivet]

but you have to be car nerd of a ferrari fanatic to spot the difference other than "oh different wheels, different bumpers'

[dire shard]

particularly of the ferrari fanatic variety

[onyx rivet]

people with less car knowledge or enthusiasm would just lump them in together as one lineup of a nameplate

[onyx rivet]

i like this take

its only a different generation if the manufacturer says so

[dire shard]

yeah like, are we gonna yell at ferrari while ignoring how mclaren's successor to the 720s is the 720s except with new wheels and they painted over the carbon

or how they have like four variants of 570s but treat them all like different cars

how do you quantify a refresh

or can you actually tangibly quantify a refresh

are we ignoring how aston's db12 basically looks like they put the dbs volante front on a db11

car manufacturers just do this

the next iteration they do to this position in the market, it'll probably look way different

as different as the roma was to the portofino, which in my eyes was nothing more than a design language modernization of the california to begin with

[quiet yew]

you gotta keep in mind

ferrari is a fucking asshole

their cars are the only redeeming quality bout em

[dire shard]

no i don't need to keep in mind

we're talking about their cars, not their company

yes, whether they decide that something is a refresh or an entirely new car is up to management, but you could say that about mclaren or aston martin too

there is insufficient evidence to conclude that the attitude of ferrari as a company has anything to do with how they decide to name something as a refresh or as a new car

their law team being overzealous or their ceo being a piece of shit has no bearing on the discussion we're having

come into this discussion with the mindset of jay leno

he's never going to own a ferrari because he dislikes ferrari as a company, but that doesn't stop him from concluding that ferraris are excellent cars
we're discussing the cars, not the company...

[quiet yew]

fair

[kind osprey]

Yeaa, that's literally a facelifted roma

They can get away with that shit with the mid engine cars but the entry tourers, really..

[kind osprey]

It's only a luxury if the gas station and it's attendants aren't dumbasses. I went to fill up in Jersey, I had about half a tank and told the guy "fill up on 91 please" and he was like "how much do you wanna put onnthe card" then stared at me with a brainless blank expression like this was a normal response

I didn't ask for a dollar amount, I said "fill it up"

Dumbass wasn't budging and finally said "it's a deposit thing for credit cards you can go over it" so I say $16, the pump filled to $16 and stops and I say "I wanted it filled up" and he was like "you put $16"

[naive thorn]

Always walls of text here

[kind osprey]

I was thinking to myself like motherfucker... it's 2am all I wanted was my tank filled what is this bullshit. To give him credit, this ridiculous bullshit is above his paygrade but he could of at least said "yea my boss is a dumb fuck and doesn't let you fill up on a credit card"

So anyways, that's why I'd just rather pump it myself at this point

[naive thorn]

What are you pumping

[kind osprey]

Gas..

[naive thorn]

Ah

You have a situation where a gas station clerk can't offer a service

[kind osprey]

Why do you sound like an ai rn

[naive thorn]

[kind osprey]

Yea I think that os also a concern

My car won't explode on 87 gas but it takes 91

[naive thorn]

Do they not use liquid volume?

[kind osprey]

?

[naive thorn]

Can you say I want 20 liters

[kind osprey]

You could, but I just wanted my tank filled

[naive thorn]

If it's half tank it's safe to assume you can add the other half

Or more

[kind osprey]

If I could guess like "I want 6.278 gallons to exactly fill my tank please" I would be driving a very different car

[naive thorn]

Your problem is using gallons

[kind osprey]

It's not

[naive thorn]

A gallon is too big

Use liters

[kind osprey]

You can't guess a fill up on a car at random

The system is completely irrelevant

[naive thorn]

Nuh uh

24 liters sound better than 6.278 gallons

If you had a better measurement system it would be easy

[kind osprey]

It would still be a demical filled random string of numbers

This has absolutely nothing to do with that, it's just the gas station not letting me simply pay to fill the car up to the top and be normal

[naive thorn]

Right

Next time tell him 17$

[kind osprey]

I'm just never going to that station again

Which is pretty easy since it is far away

[floral lava]

ah NJ the last state that u can't pump your own gas

[kind osprey]

Yea it's nice in concept, but New Jersey somehow finds ways to screw it up

Like when the attendant doesn't give a singular shit and makes you wait forever

[floral lava]

i'm surprised they still have that law

[kind osprey]

I just grab it and do it myself before they even notice

Or if they don't have enough employees to fill cars, they close pump stations which causes a jam on one or two pumps when there are literally 12

It's extremely flawed

[dire shard]

either they get away with it all, or not at all - and that applies to all the other manufacturers either

i proposed previously that there's not much of a tangible way to quantify what a facelift or refresh is

that's kind of entirely on the manufacturer to decide

how ferrari classified this as a successor rather than a facelift isn't a ferrari-exclusive action, nor do i think it's wrong

because so far everybody has just been commenting on how the car looks - then in that regard, how about the fact that by my eyes, the only body panel that isn't entirely different between the two cars is the body? how about the fact that it's got pretty much an entirely different interior? entirely different functions such as its active rear spoiler?
a facelift, to me, is bmw lci - a front and rear bumper change, a headlight and taillight change, they throw a new idrive in there or something
by my definition, the amalfi is an entirely different car, but is that in line with your definition? by ferrari's definition? is there an industry standard definition that all manufacturers follow, or are we holding them to an inconsistent personal standard?

the car looks very similar yes, but i point out that the portofino pretty much just looked like an updated california... that the roma was the change in ferrari's entry level lineup, and that after the amalfi there's a good chance there's going to be another drastic change...

forget the 458 and 488, the f360 and the f430... i've met people who can't tell the difference between a california and a portofino.
the fact that these two cars look similar is not a novelty in ferrari's entries in this segment, in ferraris overall, in the luxury car industry overall, or even the car industry entirely

[old sedge]

If 1990's Toyota Supra RZ is expensive, then how come 1990's Mazda Miata isn't? Isn't Miata also a JDM?

[mental lion]

Cos it’s a miata

And it’s pretty expensive for what it is at $15k or something

[dire shard]

you are no longer asking a car question

you are asking an economics question

presumably you are aware of the existence of supply and demand

now suppose i posit that there were 11k twin turbo a80 supras sold in the united states, versus 400k na1 mx5's sold in the united states...

suppose that you can graph simple supply and demand where supply is y=mx+b and demand is y=(-m)x+b, and the x axis is quantity while the y axis is price, and the intersection of the demand line and the supply line is called the equilibrium, which you can take to be the market price per level of demand...
if supply is ridiculously low, and demand is ridiculously high, what do you suppose potential buyers do? they raise the bidding price, don't they? until at some point they collectively refuse to pay higher, and that is the market price for that one car... you could say at that point, supply and demand has reached equilibrium...
now, when you compare that to a car with ridiculously high supply, and for the sake of simplicity let's suppose the demand is the same because they're both enthusiast sports cars...
well there are more cars for people to buy, right? there are many other cars, people don't need to fight for the cheapest one, thus people are going to wait for prices to drop until they're happy with the price, and the supply and demand can be said to have reached equilibrium...
now when you compare the equilibrium of the two graphs, the equilibrium for the car with less supply is higher in dollar value than the equilibrium for the car with more supply...

welcome to microeconomics

[sage roost]

It's not...

[kind osprey]

If an Aston Martin db11 is expensive, then how come a Caterham 7 isn't? They are both British

Hope this helps

[sage roost]

I hate this misconception that anything Japanese is JDM

[dire shard]

lmao

i glossed over that part

[sage roost]

we need to make a pinned post ong

JDM MEANS BUILT IN JAPAN FOR THE JAPANESE MARKET

[dire shard]

the na1 mx5 was literally designed in california and sold in the states

[sage roost]

A TOYOTA COROLLA IS NOT JDM

[dire shard]

it's like the least japanese japanese car to exist

[sage roost]

the person who designed the NB also designed the viper

not very Japanese

[sage roost]

You're making it confusing

why is the Ferrari 488 more expensive than the Alfa Romeo 4c?

they're both Italian

[dire shard]

you're making it more confusing

why is the mercedes sl65 black series more expensive than the mini cooper?

they're both german

[sage roost]

Mini cooper is German?

[jagged sentinel]

In the same way Mazda used to be american

[jagged sentinel]

Why does nobody understand how expensive the MK4 supra was when it was new

It started at over 70k in today's money

It's an extremely misunderstood car in more than just its price to be fair

[mental lion]

Why is the Bugatti chiron more expensive than the renault clio theyre both french

[onyx rivet]

without confirming, I cannot tell if you telling us a fun fact or if you are making a joke on how the NB resembles a shrunken first gen viper

[onyx rivet]

did you learn eco from school or is this just hobby knowledge

[mystic holly]

how can i get a temate for an heist

[sage roost]

It's true (sorry I pinged)

[sage roost]

use your LFG channels depending on the type of heist:
#pc-e｜cayo-perico-lfg #pc-e｜casino-lfg #pc-e｜old-heist-lfg

[onyx rivet]

https://external-preview.redd.it/d6wNWnTMfqOCClJ5yZnLQTOZHCxcnDIMQpVXYQaJoqY.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=88867f6508c9be72ed278ebd664479dcaa61181c

ooh

Ken Saward help did the Viper back in college and then he moved up to designing the NB

that is both interesting and unsurprising

and if I am looking at the right person, he is now involved in Singer Vehicle Design

[jagged sentinel]

SRT is Back: Stellantis Revives Street and Racing Technology Division https://share.google/TgD5bEoNtIKT34TTi

@silent oak

Coming to their senses

[sage roost]

Final edition: for real this time

[dire shard]

i went through formal education for this, but i also firmly believe that anybody beyond their teenage years should understand the basic concept of scarcity to be common knowledge
technically i learned this informally by participating in video game trading economies...
in terms of hobby knowledge, the only thing relevant here is knowing that there were fewer a80 supras produced and sold than na1 mx5's, the rest of the explanation could be abstracted and applied to nearly anything else

[dire shard]

bmw purchased mini in 1994

strictly speaking, mini was german before most of us here were born

[jagged sentinel]

Is Bugatti French or German

That's a fun question to answer depending on how you interpret it

[dire shard]

depending on the time period, the correct answer could be italian

[jagged sentinel]

True

[jagged sentinel]

The original Bugatti factory was built in the Alsace-Lorraine region, which was originally roman, then French, Then German, Then French, Then German...and then and still currently is French.

Apparently Germany quite liked the region, and apparently so much so that they occupied it in both world wars

[jagged sentinel]

I could listen to this all day

Sauce is kielymackey on Instagram

[mental lion]

Bros so loud you only hear his car

[kind cradle]

[jagged sentinel]

Tends to happen when you're the only car on set that day with over six liters and no turbos lol

[silent oak]

YEEHAWW BABY

Love to see Carlos’s EV vision burnt!!

[kind osprey]

Is it just me or do the first gen r8's look better than the new ones

It just felt special, it had class to it and it felt different than the other models

Nowadays the r8 just looks like a squished sedan the design language is identical to like an rs3

[silent oak]

Idk my Audis

R8 is v10?

[mental lion]

And a v8

[mental lion]

The first gen are so iconic and ahead of their time but at the same time i prefer the newer one

[kind osprey]

The new one is nice but I just wish it felt as special as the first gen did when it was new

[silent oak]

Is it using another manufacturers v8?

Or home grown

[jagged sentinel]

Audi makes V8s

The very first R8s only had V8s

[kind osprey]

Audi is vw group they are all in house

[jagged sentinel]

It wasn't until the Gallardo started using the platform that the R8 got it's now-iconic V10

[kind osprey]

That's interesting I was under the assumption it was the opposite

[silent oak]

VW with v8s? I thought they were the boring white girls first safe car.

[jagged sentinel]

Audi

[kind osprey]

I thought it was like they shoved the v10 to launch it then made a v8 as a cheaper option

[kind osprey]

They put v12's in suvs

[jagged sentinel]

Clarkson reviewed the R8 when it first released, no mention of a V10

[kind osprey]

Vw has done literally everything

[silent oak]

Can I stuff a hemi in a VW?

[jagged sentinel]

It had the 4.2 V8, and anyone who knows German engines knows the Audi 4.2 V8 was phenomenal

[kind osprey]

Is that the one with the crazy ass timing chain

[jagged sentinel]

It's one of Clarkson's favorite engines of all time

I can't blame him, they sound incredible

[silent oak]

HANMOND

HANMOND!!

[jagged sentinel]

That's like every Audi V8

[kind osprey]

Lol

[silent oak]

I never rode an Audi before they sound cool?

[jagged sentinel]

https://youtube.com/shorts/ecZn48lqUZU?si=mr4vhgv11Vx9-WSm

[silent oak]

In person not with audio ruined by compression?

[jagged sentinel]

They don't all come with the same motor

I4s, I5s, V6s, V8s, V10s...

[silent oak]

Aren’t VW just Audis less interesting brand ?

I’m an American car fan not European

(Except you Porsche and Lancia)

[jagged sentinel]

Audi is VW's luxury brand

VW owns Audi, not other way around

[silent oak]

Like merc amg level ?

Compared to Benz?

[jagged sentinel]

Probably lower then Benz, but still nice

[silent oak]

Ah not as nice as Cadillac ?

[jagged sentinel]

Probably on the same level as Cadillac, if not nicer

[silent oak]

As comfy as a cad limo?

Those fuckers are so nice to sit in

[jagged sentinel]

Audi don't make limos so

[silent oak]

Fucking Audi r8 stretch lmao

Perfect for the nice night clubs of Vegas

[mental lion]

Neither does Cadillac

Nvm

[silent oak]

Damn you didn’t know?

[mental lion]

Nah i knew but i thought they were after markets

Didn’t know Cadillac built it themselves

[silent oak]

Example after market limo dodge challenger

And yes it’s real

[onyx rivet]

i'd agree

[static gale]

It's too iconic, as well

And I don't mean "too iconic" in a bad way

[onyx rivet]

the first gen R8 looked elegant and still because Audi didnt force a hexagon unlike 2nd gen
2nd gen is fine up until they started facelifting it

soft flowing curves will always trump brash hard and distinct angles

also helps that the first gen induces nostalgia

pre-facelift Audi R8 still continues to be one of my favourite daytime running lights

[kind osprey]

Exactly

[dire shard]

the concept car that the r8 was based on had a v10

however, at the start of production it only had the 4.2 v8

it was like 3 years later before a v10 was introduced

3 whole years without the v10

which is, meh, audi makes excellent v8s, i prefer that

[kind osprey]

Oh ok that makes sense I always thought the v10 was first

And in no world am I choosing the v8 over the v10

For a million reasons, majority being the sound alone

That 5.2 v10 is probably the best sound you can get out of something under $250,000

[silent oak]

Idk my Audi lore. What’s concept Audi r8?

[kind osprey]

The concept before it became a production car

[silent oak]

Was it similar,

In design / engineering

[kind osprey]

Probably

The r8 production car was already a wild feat

[silent oak]

Was it a barely legal car?

[kind osprey]

No

It was pretty mass produced for a super car

[silent oak]

Not like the new 2017 viper

That’s straight up, a race car made for the street

[kind osprey]

Audi/modern Lamborghini is the opposite of the vipers philosophy

The r8/Huracan are the easiest supercars to drive

[silent oak]

So opposite of unsafe and fun ?

[kind osprey]

They are fun, but much more controlled

Like a fighter jet, or roller coaster

[silent oak]

Ewwwww so no fun?

I like unhinged fun

[kind osprey]

The viper is more like a dirt bike or ice skating

All four examples are fun just different types

A Huracan is a grippy point and shoot tech car

A viper is four wheels and a honker

[silent oak]

The entry level Lamborghini?

[kind osprey]

I honestly prefer their v10 lineup

The only time I didn't was this new current gen

I like the v12 they brought out much more than the new Huracan replacement

[onyx rivet]

Audi LeMans Concept exterior wise was pretty close to the production R8

[silent oak]

Damn bruh looks like the same frame

[kind osprey]

For a concept car, that's basically identical

Props to Audi

It's rare to find that

[onyx rivet]

yeah audi has most often been fafithful to their concept-to-reality stages

[dire shard]

weirdest of all, they didn't make it as an r8 concept to begin with, they made the concept to celebrate their le mans r8 racecar winning like five times and thus proceeded to actually straight up produce the thing afterwards rather than before

[kind osprey]

The comfort Gallardo

Lol

[dire shard]

fair, but given that used, the v10 models are like almost twice the price of the v8 models... i don't think the engine is a choice of preference at that price

not to mention, the v8 is like the best sounding engine under like $150,000 so congratulations audi?

[kind osprey]

I would still go for a v10

If I want an eargasm v8 that is what the 458 is for

[dire shard]

one of, at least - the 458 and even the gt350 are definitely above it, but i would not put audi's 4.2 v8 down below that, it's quite a good sound

[silent oak]

I’m still trying to find the concept dodge viper

[dire shard]

come to think of it, you're not getting a 458 at even v10 r8 prices, so you might as well forget about that

[dire shard]

hot wheels car

[silent oak]

This is the concept viper.. didn’t stray from the design..

Looks like I’d eat you with them teeth grill

[onyx rivet]

i dont get how they didnt think of putting door handles

[silent oak]

Pure sports car, handles ruin aerodynamics

[kind osprey]

No door handles looks a lot better

[silent oak]

It’s the kind of car a 90s ceo with a hot assistant drives

[mental lion]

Darius wants his car back

[jagged sentinel]

Audi has a habit of that

They're more consistent than most with getting their production cars as similar as possible to their concepts

[silent oak]

the ferrari Fxx K and evo are pretty cars!

[jagged sentinel]

How did I miss that

[dire shard]

skull

[jagged sentinel]

Ok I'm done

[dire shard]

the reaction stays

it's a monument of your sins

[silent oak]

bad to the bone

benenenerrr

[jagged sentinel]

[jagged sentinel]

[silent oak]

harley noise

[jagged sentinel]

I hear the bad to the bone guitar riff every time I see that emoji animate

[silent oak]

i want one as my ringtone to annoy my co workers

[jagged sentinel]

Use the metal pipe falling sound effect

I have that as an .mp3 file should you want it

[silent oak]

holy shit perfect

[jagged sentinel]

You want it?

[silent oak]

sure

[jagged sentinel]

Ok

[jagged sentinel]

Accept

Can't DM you any other way

[jagged sentinel]

Huawei says its new solid-state EV battery can give you 1,800 miles of range and charge in less than 5 minutes, but we have questions | TechRadar https://share.google/XWLkwW7Duj9nRgTl2

Jesus, with figured like that too I'd have questions too

Like, say, battery/heat safety with charging that quick

[silent oak]

Oh god I don’t trust Chinese EVs.

I don’t want to be caught In an lithium fire

You can’t be put out

[mental lion]

Scientifically impossible

[jagged sentinel]

[mental lion]

10 times the range of your avg ev

Straight bs

[jagged sentinel]

It doesn't have the battery structure of your average EV

[mental lion]

Must have the structure of a nuclear reactor

[jagged sentinel]

And even if it doesn't reach 1800 miles, it still has the possibility of considerably improving range

[mental lion]

I hope they don’t make it because it will push the end of ice cars

With that tech

[jagged sentinel]

Not the moment it comes out it won't

[mental lion]

Yeah but if that tech is true and every automaker adopts there will be no reason to keep making ice cars except for a few special ones

[jagged sentinel]

They will do whatever makes them money

EVs aren't selling well in the US, and I don't think 1800 miles of range would singlehandedly change that. Not everyone wants the latest and greatest. Not everyone needs that. Not everyone can afford that. People are stubborn.

[silent oak]

EVs are a rich people thing

[jagged sentinel]

Not really

[mental lion]

They don’t sell well for 2 reasons and the car above completely solves them

[jagged sentinel]

They aren't a poor people thing, but they're not a rich people thing either

[jagged sentinel]

Range is one but what is the other

[mental lion]

Charging time

[jagged sentinel]

It won't charge in five minutes, or even 15

They said themselves this number was achieved in a lab, and it goes without saying (though they did say) that lab conditions and field conditions are not the same

[silent oak]

EVs are a fad imo

[jagged sentinel]

They're not a fad, trust

[silent oak]

I’d never be seen in one.

[jagged sentinel]

I don't hate EVs

There are a select few I'd consider owning

The only one among them I have a solid chance of owning is a ford lightning

[silent oak]

Hybrid corvette is the closest to EV I’ll own

Atleast it has style

[jagged sentinel]

It's got a bit more than that

What I like about the lightning is that it's just an electric F150 and it doesn't try to be any more than that

[silent oak]

Dodge doing the opposite

[jagged sentinel]

Their EV truck is more akin to the lightning than it is to the Silverado EV

[silent oak]

Idk in my climate mid west, I’d hate to own an EV

[sage roost]

it has come to my attention by a Tesla owner that no matter how much you lower your headlights, they reset after every update

[silent oak]

I’d rather have a functional car over a brick in the snow

[sage roost]

WHICH IS WHY EVERY FUCKING TESLA HAS HEADLIGHTS THAT HOLD THE POWER OF THE FUCKING SUN

[jagged sentinel]

Mhmm because gas cars never break down

[mental lion]

That’s exactly how electrification should be. You don’t need to create unnecessary new models like Cadillac and Mercedes

And few others

[silent oak]

I don’t want to half my range brotha

[sage roost]

Mercedes creating the disgraceful blob instead of electrifying the S class

[mental lion]

And getting shocked it didn’t sell well

[silent oak]

Dodge disgraced their own fans by making an EV charger

[mental lion]

Not that an electric s class will sell either

[sage roost]

why not

[mental lion]

But it will sell better

[sage roost]

there's a lot of i7s

At least where I live

[silent oak]

And completely shutting their challenger / charger line up to make up for the EV charger

Which I hate the most..

Fuck you carlos,

[sage roost]

now they're making a big deal about bringing back hemi and SRT like it wasn't their own doing

[mental lion]

Some people in Mercedes had an idea which was better in their head

[silent oak]

The new ceo Tim (god bless him) are bringing the best part of dodge back

The whole EV drama made dodge look real bad.

[mental lion]

What did they think was gonna happen lmao

A company that never made an engine smaller than a 6 cylinder going all electric suddenly

[jagged sentinel]

They did but your point still stands

Can't forget the neon srt4

[silent oak]

I can’t wait for an SRT16

[jagged sentinel]

Don't get your hopes up

They barely got the V10 through emissions

[silent oak]

I need Beeg engine

[jagged sentinel]

8 liters isn't big enough?

[silent oak]

That’s what she said

[silent oak]

V10 based challenger would be nice..

Srt10 red eye or so goes the name

[jagged sentinel]

Nah, I think the V10 should stick to the viper

[silent oak]

Don’t give crazy dodge engineers ideas

[jagged sentinel]

Nah, that's exactly what we should do

That's how we got every SRT product we've ever gotten

And not that SRT is back...

They may as well just give lord Tim the keys to Chrysler America

[silent oak]

Can we get a Chrysler 300 with a demon 170 motor?

[jagged sentinel]

I think they should start with a hellcat motor

[silent oak]

Fucking cool dads Chrysler

[mental lion]

They already exist unofficially

And yeah they’re way cooler than a charger

[silent oak]

I’d rather pick my kid up in a hellcat

They have the cool parent status

[jagged sentinel]

Depends on who you ask, really

[silent oak]

The challenger owning parent

Idk must be well off to afford a beaut like that or dumb enough to buy one

[jagged sentinel]

Well of course they're generally going to like it

[silent oak]

Until the noise complaint

[jagged sentinel]

Yeah, it entirely depends on his behavior whether or not everyone else hates it

[silent oak]

I’d straight pipe the girl, imo hellcats with no straight pipe sound wrong

[jagged sentinel]

I'd very much argue the opposite but you probably knew that

[silent oak]

I want my ears ringing after turning it on

[dire shard]

mawp?

[silent oak]

B W AA A

[rose sierra]

Have u guys seen an ls swapped e30 drifting

If not you need to

[naive thorn]

Who the hell does that

[dire shard]

me

[kind osprey]

Ls swapping 3 series bmws is a pretty common drifting thing

Usually someone buys a clapped out e36/46 and they rip the interior out and swap the engine

[naive thorn]

I'd expect a German car V12 or V8

Or V10

[kind osprey]

A $70,000-$110,000 v12 engine for a $3000 drift car?

[naive thorn]

Yes y knot

Or or a 2jz gte

😊

Oh no he's gonna refute me

[kind osprey]

V10 and v12 aren't exactly abundant so considering drift cars go through engines like they are brake pads you would need unlimited money

😂

[kind osprey]

Those are also expensive af but you could definitely get away with using that for a bit

[naive thorn]

I was thinking about some sleeper build

Illegal drifting

[kind osprey]

A great sleeper would be shoving an lsx crate engine in an old Volvo Station wagon

Seeing a brick go 170 down the highway

[naive thorn]

Lmao

Maybe the all the dude had was his mom 3 series

Or his grandma

[jagged sentinel]

LS engines cost a fair amount, but they literally made millions of them and they have a proven track record for drifting

They cost more than most know but you still get your money's worth

This car that I posted earlier has an LS3

Before you scream sacrilege (this isn't a GM vehicle), it also has suspension components from a BMW or something I believe

[naive thorn]

[silent oak]

I’m gonna car yap

[naive thorn]

you lied

[kind osprey]

Even a top of the line lsx is what like $25,000?

Not bad for over 700+ hp out of a crate

Most ls's are like $4-$10k

[dreamy torrent]

My brain trying to find one clue to say its from game or something

[kind osprey]

if bentley made a wagon based off the audi rs6 chassis

I kind of dig it

[jagged sentinel]

Smexy

[dire shard]

what in the ai generated

surely bentley can do better than a tall continental

[onyx rivet]

pleas tell me it's re..

ai

[sudden holly]

Kinda reminds me of a mini cooper

[swift olive]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzYKHnBhlQY

[silent oak]

Hmm how loud? Shotgun with no ear pro loud?

[dire shard]

that's the huayra r

so 140 db

so yeah, roughly shotgun with no ear pro loud

the exact decibel rating is given for the huayra r because it's actually too loud and exceeds the limit for a lot of race tracks, so pagani also supplies optional mufflers that reduce it to 110 db

[silent oak]

Ewww mufflers

[swift olive]

they have to use them for some tracks

[dire shard]

well hey, if you don't want to drive your multi-million non-road-legal track car on tracks that have a noise limit (almost all of them), you don't have to install them

but then you're pretty much not driving at all, so

[silent oak]

I hear Harley riders running no mufflers on their bikes

I like it

[dire shard]

or be rich in china, and drive a zonda r on shenzhen streets, which pisses off literally everybody around you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvLtUIFQeOo

[swift olive]

I drive my car with no mufflers, but I only get in troubles

[silent oak]

In Arizona, I used to drive my mates no muffler mustang and it popped. Loved it

Yeah I got looks from parents while driving a drunk guy home from a college party in a car that costs more then his rent per month but yea

[silent oak]

Try driving a zonda in downtown la, easiest way to get it stolen

[swift olive]

@silent oak what's that pregnant man emote lmao

[dire shard]

being anywhere around downtown la seems like a mistake

[silent oak]

I had to drive by downtown LA for a convention down there

Same yea

[swift olive]

that's an eargasm

[silent oak]

Man China must have the worst noise ordinances

[dire shard]

depends on what you define bad

in residential zones in shenzhen it's like 55db in the day and 45db at night

but those are residential zones

where you know

people sleep

for example, la residential decibel limits are what, 50db in the day and 40db in the night?

[swift olive]

meanwhile here, police just stop you for just having a sport car

[dire shard]

that's like... a 25% difference? idk

[swift olive]

[dire shard]

logarithmic scales gooo

[silent oak]

I get stopped for being a dodge owner

If you understand you understand well enough

[dire shard]

could be worse

imagine being a wrx owner

you buy a regular ass subaru and cops are staring you down ready to shit on you if you go one over the limit

[silent oak]

You gotta be the next rally king to outrun HWP

[mental lion]

Half the paganis in the world are owned by china at this point

[quartz pumice]

To continue from the other channel, here's a smaller scale @rugged olive

[rugged olive]

at that scale the cars are quite rough, think 1:18 works nicely

[stuck pasture]

ever thought about getting an actual camera @quartz pumice

[quartz pumice]

Yea absolutely, hence why I don't do 1/64 very often

[quartz pumice]

All the time, just don't have much money since legally I can't work yet. I'll be 16 in October, though.

[stuck pasture]

I can help you out

they arnt cheap but cheap options

[rugged olive]

not much but some of my modded hotwheels, with a 3d printed lift lol

[quartz pumice]

This one I was tweaking the camera settings a bit, but its pretty cool. Reminds me of the original Fast and Furious idk why.

[quartz pumice]

I love loosies lol. Though I prefer to collect carded.

[rugged olive]

ofc ofc

[quartz pumice]

Nah nah, you don't have to, im happy with my phone camera lol

[stuck pasture]

I dont mind, ill take any excuse to look at cameras lol

[quartz pumice]

I actually found a whole ton for $20 the other day at a garage sale. And I mean a TON. It was 5 cars for $1

Lots of nice ones

[stuck pasture]

nice

[kind osprey]

No excuses, produce a b2b company that sells lemonade to other kids to sell on the streets. Be the supplier, the Gus Fring of lemons

[rugged olive]

i have alot of jdm still carded, i work at a place that sells them, so we go through boxes when stock comes in lol

[quartz pumice]

Oh well absolutely, lol. Just don't think I'd wanna die of heat exhaustion in this east coast heatwave LMAO

[rugged olive]

saw this weapon last weekend

[stuck pasture]

@quartz pumice how much you got rn

[kind osprey]

Rn it's only 75 but idk what the high is for today

Holy shit 91

Was not expecting that lmao

[stuck pasture]

W

[rugged olive]

its 9c here and i ahte it, can i have my heat back?

[halcyon oriole]

save like 700-800 and u can get a a6400 with a 18-40/45 i forgot or even a r50

[stuck pasture]

I got a nikon d5600 lol

[quartz pumice]

Nothing LMAO, I'm broke af

[stuck pasture]

[quartz pumice]

This was from the first time i used a camera. Was my school's media class cam lmao

[stuck pasture]

nicee

im tempted on getting a macro lens

but I hate macro

[quartz pumice]

No idea lmao

I presume im gonna work with my dad's friend next summer, was going to this year but someone else got the job. Would've had around 6k by August 🤦‍♂️

Wanna save for my first car

[stuck pasture]

you should

[quartz pumice]

These are my delusions

[stuck pasture]

what car

[quartz pumice]

With the Evo Lancer, I'll take a normal Lancer and just put a Evo bodykit on it. Im a style over speed kinda guy so if it doesn't pull Evo numbers I really don't care.

[quartz pumice]

One of those are what I'd like to be my first.

[stuck pasture]

should get a shitbox for your first

[quartz pumice]

Ehhh I guess, I've always been told that, but I don't wanna drive something I don't like.

[stuck pasture]

would you rather that or wreck your dream

get a shitbox until you fully know what your doing

[quartz pumice]

Fair, because at the end of the day anything can happen regardless of how careful I am.

Maybe some shitbox Civic lmao

[maiden sphinx]

I saw 1st gen BMW M3

[stuck pasture]

yeah

fun to drive still

but cheaper

[stuck pasture]

w

[halcyon oriole]

saw one paganni huayra BC in gumball3k few months ago

[stuck pasture]

bigger W

nicest car I've seen is prob a cobra or countach

[halcyon oriole]

and a blue carbon regera

[stuck pasture]

lucky

[stuck pasture]

tryna think

lambo sto

[halcyon oriole]

if gumball come to your country imo drop everything and go see the cars lol

[stuck pasture]

it never would

[halcyon oriole]

which region?

[maiden sphinx]

I coverd plate because of privaty

[stuck pasture]

russia

[halcyon oriole]

ok nvm forget abt it

fly to EU lol gumball always have event around EU

[stuck pasture]

ik lol

[fleet owl]

brah

[onyx rivet]

not a M3 but still a cool spot nonetheless

[onyx rivet]

the trailer is towing the Fortwo 🔥 🔥

[naive thorn]

Maybach

[silent oak]

Damn I’ve seen a Lamborghini Mercialago, it’s the sexiest thing

[swift olive]

he's a smart user

[kind osprey]

@halcyon oriole @stuck pasture Here is my personal best so far in terms of supercar finds

I haven't seen a pagani yet it's one of my only missing hypercars on my list

[naive thorn]

Did you see a devel

[dire shard]

i see one in the mirror

[kind osprey]

Car not real

[naive thorn]

You shattered my dream

[kind osprey]

Between that abomination and the lykan hypersport dubai needs to actually make a running car eventually

[dire shard]

w motors made the fenyr which is real

[kind osprey]

One of them probably runs I guess

It's just not how hypercars should be

Their insides must exceed their outsides

[dire shard]

probably a dozen at least, since they did sell like 5 to one guy

[kind osprey]

Paganis have $100,000 in screws. Koenigsegg reinvents everytbing they touch

W motors makes fancy headlights :/

Bugatti can get away with it cause they're over 100 years old

They're basically the only hypercar exclusive brand with any backable heritage

[dire shard]

no, they really don't get away for just being old, but also they don't need to get away with it, bugatti interiors are great

[kind osprey]

I meant their gimicky tricks and shit

Like diamonds in the headlights and random old money shit that has zero impact on the car

Like watches and champagne flutes

[dire shard]

the fenyr has a pretty gaudy interior much like the rest of the car and the rest of the brand, and it does look vaguely like a porsche inside, but it certainly doesn't look like they just forgot about it

[kind osprey]

Pagani and Koenigsegg would be the only ones I really gravitate towards if I just suddenly won the lottery

[stuck pasture]

hot

[kind osprey]

The only modern Bugattis I would want to collect rn would be the eb110 and the veyron super sport but in a vitesse colorway

[stuck pasture]

veyrons are my fav bugatti

always was always will be

[kind osprey]

It is very underrated

The first ones felt piggish but they fixed them in the later years

[stuck pasture]

its overlooked since the chiron

[dire shard]

underrated? we're old enough to remember the time when everything and everyone was veyron 👴

thousand horsepower this, speed record that

shit lasted for like seven years

seven years of hearing "heheh expensive round beetle shaped car fast"

[kind osprey]

I remember the first veryon I ever saw, it was an white grand sport. Probably a 2012 model

It was immaculate, and it had a red bow on it sitting next to a 458 and an sls

[stuck pasture]

have you seen the last ever produced veyron?

[kind osprey]

What would that be the vitesse?

[stuck pasture]

the black with red interior

let me get a pic

[kind osprey]

Idk the last one produced but ik it would have been 2015

[kind osprey]

Matte black looks kinda weird on such an expensive car

[stuck pasture]

its so pretty

dream spec or the black and orange

[mental lion]

And it has an 8.0l with 16 cylinders

[kind osprey]

That was purely for shits and giggles

8 liters out of a quad turbo w16 only pushing 1000hp is abysmal

It could probably do like 3000hp if they wanted to go balls to the wall

But emissions and safety blah blah jargon mustve got in the way

[mental lion]

Yeah koenigsegg gets the same figures with half the engine

[kind osprey]

Pretty much xD

Everyone also forgets about the scc ultimate aero

Bugatti got beat in like 2008 or 2010 by them

[jagged sentinel]

They also have a habit setting themselves on fire

[stuck pasture]

you 🫵

[dire shard]

so do ferraris

[jagged sentinel]

[dire shard]

sunm up wit these engines mayb

[stuck pasture]

how you been

[stuck pasture]

ferrari?

[dire shard]

ferrari?

[jagged sentinel]

Alive

[stuck pasture]

slow man Enzo Ferrari?

[mental lion]

Lol yea

Tbh it’s only that jesko so far

[silent oak]

Bwaaa Swedish cars be like

[onyx rivet]

matte black looks weird, end of story

also seeing three different Veyrons that are all 'last produced' when i typed it up on google

[dire shard]

because google gives you pictures that may have appeared somewhere on the webpage

the final veyron produced is a very specific one that they named the la finale

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWVfsg__7NI

[onyx rivet]

slight tangent but have they axed the Zonda yet

or are they still churning one-offs

[dire shard]

they made the 760 arrivederci last year

i don't think they've made one yet this year

it was supposed to be the last one after all, but they said that like five times by now

[onyx rivet]

if my italian is correct, 'arrivederci' means 'goodbye'
but since they still seem to be keen on making more i doubt that lol

i guess

last-spec is kinda ass but its a touching tribute

they just inverted the red and black bits

[silent oak]

God damn black on red vice versa looks good

I like how they made the interior red to match the middle dash

[kind cradle]

[frail elbow]

@onyx rivet arrivederla

[silent oak]

Man I love them old 2000s ahh integra’s

[kind osprey]

https://youtube.com/shorts/A2kttX00uQs?si=ltGnpZvL4gpdKu-a

[static gale]

Not 15 seconds
AI voice
Then "explains" how brakes work, but doesn't say what the actual piston does in the brakes

[jagged sentinel]

https://youtube.com/shorts/kX3yz7v_1X0?si=xs3XaX-qvLZpXVDO

The sound this thing makes, makes a hellcat sound like a Honda Accord

To be honest with you... I don't think the engine needed all that much upgrading to get 760 horsepower 💀

It already has to be overbuilt to account for heavy boost at pretty much every rev

If you somehow don't know what the Lancia Delta S4 was... you're in for a fuckin treat

Apparently Lancia pushed the boost up to 72 PSI (!!!!!!!!)