In covid times that was like £2
#transportation
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silent oak
In my state we have .. $2.98 for gas per gallon
silent oak
And my car has .. 18.5 gallons of fuel in the tank..
fresh thicket
Hence why Europe uses small engines
silent oak
And gets 12 - 16 mpg
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And gets 12 - 16 mpg
That’s shockingly bad
On a decent journey in eco mode I can get 60mpg or maybe more
silent oak
16 when I’m not gunning it on an empty interstate
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Most journeys I’d get about 52
The lowest I’ve seen it was 33mpg when I drove it hard
fresh thicket
Don’t blame you challengers are sick
My next car will be an Audi s3
Which is still not that bad on fuel in comparison
You can get low thirties
silent oak
Hmm Audi, never really liked euro high performance since part availability
And specialized equipment
fresh thicket
Suppose it’s different here
German cars in the uk Depreciate and sell for dirt cheap
Depreciate*
silent oak
German cars in the uk Depreciate and sell for dirt cheap
So they are poverty spec?
silent oak
Since the average driver can’t maintain it?
fresh thicket
U can get a fairly nice top spec bmw 7 series for about 35k which would only be like 2 years old
silent oak
How bout m4 series ?
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Msrp is over 100k
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How bout m4 series ?
I can check how much they are used
The older shape m4s u can get for under 20k
silent oak
I can check how much they are used
They freakishly expensive here in the US with a price tag of 100k
silent oak
And that’s the competition m4
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Yep
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Problem is people buy these cheap luxury cars but can’t afford to maintain them
fresh thicket
They are CHEAP used
The only truck that is popular here is a Ford ranger which in the us is classed as small
And most of them are diesel
silent oak
I like my rams / Silverado’s or maybe my tundras
fresh thicket
Tbh Ive been in a Ford ranger it was a 3.2 diesel and interior space was quite small
fresh thicket
I like my rams / Silverado’s or maybe my tundras
Ye they’re not sold here
silent oak
Tundras in the NA market are fucking nice
silent oak
The x class?
silent oak
I want one cuz of the status of owning a euro only pickup
silent oak
You do get the vw amorok as well
Nah Mexico
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Not sure
silent oak
But peugot sucks
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Owned by stallantis now
silent oak
Unless it’s the 206
fresh thicket
My mom has a new 208 it’s not bad tbh
silent oak
The rally edition only
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She used to have a 206 years ago
silent oak
I like the group b one in the 80s
fresh thicket
Typical French car though had electrical issues
Yeah older French rally cars were a bit nuts
But Ford used a lot of their older diesel engines as they are actually quite bulletproof
And Mercedes use Renault engines
silent oak
I like older American cars like fucking the mustang n chargers
fresh thicket
I like mustangs and challengers as well
Funnily enough they discontinued the ecoboost mustang here bc no one bought it
Bc a person who buys a mustang wants the v8
silent oak
Bc a person who buys a mustang wants the v8
And the same with challengers,
silent oak
You only buy the v6 model for specific reasons, AWD or your poor
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Here *
silent oak
The I can’t afford a v8 hemi car
fresh thicket
You only buy the v6 model for specific reasons, AWD or your poor
Yh a car like that should be v8 or more
If u want economy get something else
silent oak
Tho the pentastar v6 is reliably cool
fresh thicket
The only reason I have a Ford fiesta is bc of insurance reasons for first cars in the uk
Tiny 1.0 engine
Doesn’t feel as slow as it sounds
fresh thicket
Challengers are massive for what they are as well
American engines though are massive but lack power for their size
Like an Audi s3 is only a 2.0 which is 330hp
silent oak
American engines though are massive but lack power for their size
Truck engines!
fresh thicket
An m4 has a straight six but that has over 500 horsepower
silent oak
The 6.2L v8 in the hellcat is fucking ripper
The car can pull 700 hp with a supercharger
fresh thicket
I love the sound of the supercharger
My dad loves challengers and has thought about buying an imported one here
silent oak
My dad loves challengers and has thought about buying an imported one here
Which model?
silent oak
The clapped out super stock?
fresh thicket
Here it is like 130k
silent oak
Or a scat pack ?
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Lemme check
silent oak
6.4 L NA
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136k
That’s pounds as well
That’s used Lamborghini huracan money here
A good one as well
silent oak
I prefer my corvettes as sports cars
fresh thicket
The c8 stingray is very nice
Most people don’t know but they are sold in the uk as right hand drive as well
Just don’t sell many
silent oak
The euro market has little want for American high performance?
fresh thicket
The euro market has little want for American high performance?
Yeah bc European brands here depreciate so much they’re actually more affordable
Not as thirsty
And newer European cars aren’t that bad reliability wise
Just don’t buy a 2000s bmw
They are money pits
silent oak
A challenger of my spec costs around 20k now
fresh thicket
They don’t sell challengers in the uk
The only way to get one is to import one
Which is expensive
Actual shipping isn’t too bad but there’s an import tax
fresh thicket
Nah u can drive any car here
It’s got to fit certain requirements though
Mainly lights and bumpers are different maybe
The red turn signals would have to be modified to amber
But it’s legal to drive a lhd here
silent oak
The red turn signals would have to be modified to amber
Don’t get why? Is it a color difference? But isn’t red more clear in light / dark?
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Don’t get why? Is it a color difference? But isn’t red more clear in light / dar...
It’s bc it’s more hard to distinguish with brake lights I suppose
So there are imported Ford f150s I see driving about with extra lights added to the back
The Tesla cyber truck is banned here though completely
silent oak
It’s bc it’s more hard to distinguish with brake lights I suppose
Most cars here are orange with their indicator lights
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Not road legal at all even if u imported one
silent oak
But red is cheaper to produce
fresh thicket
Yeah here they have to be orange
Every year a car has to pass an inspection
So I recently had one
It can fail an inspection for anything
Even headlight aim
silent oak
My state doesn’t require any inspection lmao
fresh thicket
Yeah they’re quite strict with it here actually
silent oak
Just the initial inspection for registration purposes and your generally free
fresh thicket
Cars can fail if they have a lot of rust bc they’re not structurally safe
Pretty much the test is just to check if it’s roadworthy
Let’s say u have an abs light on it would fail for that as well
Then it’s not legal to drive it
fresh thicket
Yeah that wouldn’t work here 😂
silent oak
They have a ford focus RS that’s rally spec
fresh thicket
We have a lot of focus rs’s but rally spec wouldn’t be legal here
Police would see that and seize it instantly
mental lion
So they are poverty spec?
Poverty spec means the lowest end model in a luxury brand like the Mercedes A class
quartz pumice
Someone needa stop me from doing trades because God damn
marble iron
Met a bounty hunter today
kind osprey
I'm so disappointed, there are no Skip Tracer Randy gifs here
carmine steppe
Met a bounty hunter today
sick
trail turret
yeah bro they have sticking trackers rn
they dont use them thatmuch tho suprisingly and they still have to make contact with target
loud spade
what
sonic wren
I thought GTA six was out I called rockstar and playstation
this shits buck as hell - Rebirth is still the best game
No good releases until summer ???
That means Playstation really doesn't have shit for us unless it's an indie or a sleeper, they have one summer event to drop a new headliner title
Then it's wait for the release
Or try nightreign, I don't enjoy souls combat
There's no point in being thirty a nerd and not signing up for voice overs if you can do it - gaming is too monopolized and easily taken advantage of
naive thorn
Is this trauma dump
jagged sentinel
Saw this beauty at work
jagged sentinel
u have it from the back too?
No
I got pulled away because I had to "do my job" or some shit
heavy yarrow
how upsetting
lone geyser
delicate grotto
@jagged sentinel @honest herald some real life Tulip appreciation
Also whatever the fuck this is (not a cheap kit car shockingly)
delicate grotto
i don't think that's an actual ferrari
It’s a Norwood P4, car 21 out of 25 ever produced
However the wheels are a real limited run 1 of 10 magnesium set remanufacturing
honest herald
<@407334451132104704> <@952088774458880040> some real life Tulip appreciation
Now make it not drive like ass
delicate grotto
Now make it not drive like ass
Why you think we’re working on the front suspension 
night steeple
is that like a supercharger or something? its got a belt into the big intake manifold looking thing
jagged sentinel
is that like a supercharger or something? its got a belt into the big intake man...
Show belt
dire shard
it's a k20
it is the intake manifold
the thing on top is the valve cover
k-tuned k20 valve cover
https://dragcartel.com/products/k-tuned-type-r-valve-cover
skunk2 intake manifold https://www.kseriesparts.com/SK2-307-05-0605-1.html
if it's some other part you're confused about, you're gonna have to point it out
slate elk
onyx rivet
https://fixupx.com/jinn156/status/1928769275247968624
https://fixupx.com/jinn156/status/1928769895245734317
heavy yarrow
The last 2 are real beauty's 
kind osprey
https://fixupx.com/jinn156/status/1928769275247968624
https://fixupx.com/jinn156...
Baby Giulia 👶
mental lion
Julia
silent oak
https://fixupx.com/jinn156/status/1928769275247968624
https://fixupx.com/jinn156...
Looks like a British car with its design lmao
bitter sky
anyone like porche gt3 rs ?
bitter sky
Yeah so the engine was knocking when I hit it hard and felt like it was hesitating or losing power sometimes. Check engine light came on too and it was kinda running rough like one cylinder wasnt firing right or something. I think maybe its ignition or timing messing up or a coil pack gone bad idk
hopefully an easy fx 🙏
silent oak
hopefully an easy fx 🙏
It’s Porsche so it’s probably 10k lmao
bitter sky
noo only minor issuis 1k toos
toos
tops*
if theres internal damage can get much worse
silent oak
I like my older cars
I’ve been watching over a 85’ Ford bronco
I prefer working on my car not letting the specialty dealers do it
swift olive
quartz pumice
Not sure if I've posted this here but here's my little collection of diecast
heavy yarrow
Not sure if I've posted this here but here's my little collection of diecast
Why is there a section missing on the wall
quartz pumice
That's where I have my pillows and they'd knock them off the wall, minus what already does get knocked off
heavy yarrow
Oh it's a bed xd
Cool room tho, how much did the wall decor costs
kind osprey
Not sure if I've posted this here but here's my little collection of diecast
Are these all hung by little nails or bonded by some type of glue
"What color is your room painted"
- hotwheels
Lol
static gale
For a moment I thought "Wow, the insulation must be crazy with all the cardboard," but the cars themselves would do the opposite with all the metal, no?
Idk thermodynamics
kind osprey
It probably has a minimal effect in either direction
heavy yarrow
Are these all hung by little nails or bonded by some type of glue
Neither, it's on friction and they are squashed together
quartz pumice
Are these all hung by little nails or bonded by some type of glue
Nails on a brick wall 💔
civic grove
kind osprey
heavy yarrow
How could he
loud spade
I thought it was the onion for a second
kind osprey
I thought it was the onion for a second
Europe's speed limits are so fucking dumb that is genuinely looks like an onion article
sage roost
Worthy of a public execution
dire shard
you don't need to look across the pond to see these speed limits
sage roost
where I live there's a 20kph buffer for the speed limit
so on a road where the speed limit is 120kph you can legally go 140
Etc
dire shard
i feel the need to say this
at least in america's hat
20 mph is about 30 kmph
24 mph is about 38 kmph
now, typically the only places that have 30 kmph limit that i've seen are parks with playgrounds on them, and elementary school zones
that is a strict 30 kmph for the entire length of the school block, give or take a block or two, in order to drive safely around where kids may play and possibly find themselves in the streets
otherwise in a regular speed zone, yeah, you can go like 10 or 20 over and a cop won't care
in a school zone, if a cop finds you doing nearly 10 over the limit, you bet you're screwed
while many speed limits are very fucking stupid, this is one of the few speed limits that actually make sense
kids are fucking dumb, especially today when most of them have phones
you know who else is fucking dumb? most of the car drivers on the road, especially today when, again, a ton of them are on their phones
now, the article title doesn't specify, but drawing from my experience, i assume this speed limit is probably a school zone and is in place for a very very valid reason
you know what doesn't make sense? WHEN THE SPEED LIMIT IS ENFORCED TO FUCKING 10PM, WHAT FUCKING KID IS STILL AT SCHOOL YOU FUCKASS LAWMAKER
loud spade
lol
There's about 10 meters give or take of stopping distance between 30 and 40 kmh
In an environment where the speed limit is supposed to protect pedestrians (kids especially) that extra 10 is really important honestly
That is, if the person driving isn't on their phone too
Or... changing the radio, looking at their mirrors, checking something in their car or looking around
trail turret
why yall bringing out facts and were ur sources
silent oak
Man fuck I need a motorcycle
heavy yarrow
me fr
silent oak
I need a moto license tho ..
heavy yarrow
I need a moto license tho ..
im gonna take us on a drive to the sunset once we have it
silent oak
im gonna take us on a drive to the sunset once we have it
Oh yeah I know how to ride a dirt bike sooo
Similar enough
heavy yarrow
close enough
take me ther
silent oak
Know how to shift gears on a motorcycle?
heavy yarrow
watched a yt tutorial
silent oak
Good
heavy yarrow
i pretty much mastered it
silent oak
Until you actually ride one
silent oak
Learn on a dirt bike
heavy yarrow
i need a lisence
silent oak
A dirt bike no
heavy yarrow
we are not in the same place 
silent oak
You don’t need one where I live to own a dirt bike
heavy yarrow
but i need one to own one
silent oak
Anytime your touching a street bike is where you need one
Dirt bikes are off road / ranch toys
silent oak
Stuff like dual sports are street legal
split lotus
dire shard
e31 my beloved
onyx rivet
where I live there's a 20kph buffer for the speed limit
am i just reading that that your so-called speed limits are speed suggestions
onyx rivet
https://youtu.be/E0044MDojoU
vidrel
Wilman had already had three previous speeding offenses on his record in the past three years, according to the paper, having received three points on his license each for infractions on January 5, 2022, September 5, 2023 and September 29, 2024.
Putting it simply, the way the United Kingdom driver's licensing system works is that if you accumulate 12 points within a three-year period, you lose your license for six months. If you get a second disqualification within three years, you lose your license for twelve months; a third disqualification in three years means you lose your license for two years. The unfortunate part for Wilman: the three points from his 2022 violation were just two weeks away from being removed from his record when he was caught speeding this last time around
dire shard
what a skill issue
absolutely can't wait until he inevitably gets caught driving without the license
sage roost
am i just reading that that your so-called speed limits are speed suggestions
Pretty much
the slow drivers on the road are the one going the actual speed limit
dire shard
typically, the posted limit is what's legal
it's probably important to consider whether it's actually legal (as in, actually stated in a government resource and defensible in the court of law) or just permissible (it would be overly strict if the cops actually stopped you for going 1kmh, 10kmh, 20kmh over the limit)
even 20 kmh over is a bit excessive here, but 10 over is just fine to cops
but either way, is technically illegal over the posted limit and is not taught in any resource or school
loud spade
Oh yeah I know how to ride a dirt bike sooo
Riding a dirt bike is quite different than riding on the street
On the street you're in a much more chaotic environment and the stakes are much higher for if you crash, you're landing on hard asphalt not dirt
Nontheless I prefer street
jagged sentinel
On the street you're in a much more chaotic environment and the stakes are much ...
And on the road there are more variables that will involve you in a crash than variables that you will involve in a crash, if that makes sense
I suppose the same is true in a car but the issue isn't as pronounced because you are significantly less likely to be the thing being punted like a ball
night steeple
jeebus christ
opal forum
Is that a restomod?
opal forum
a v60 is not a small car
Eh, its a compact station wagon
dire shard
858 csl, reyn speed shop
opal forum
V90's are noticeably larger
dire shard
guess "compact" means different things in the world
a v60 is a perfectly large car in some places where your mom might be 5'5 tall, but a small car in places where your mom is 5'5 wide
steady cove
Is that a restomod?
Is a car
dire shard
naw
it's like, three inches off from the length of the same-year accord
that's a full size sedan
night steeple
its not about the volvo, its about the building behind the volvo
dire shard
it's sort of about the volvo, because in comparison to a regular full sized sedan like the same year accord, the v60 is a decently large car already
dire shard
i mean we can look at it another way, the four row 11 seat kia carnival is also shorter than that escalade
unless your mom is a whale, there's just not much of a reason to get a car that big
"i can have it therefore i want it" starts to fall flat the moment your car is so tall that it endangers children crossing the road
so wide that it sticks out when parked on the side of the street
so long that you can't fit in most parking spots on the side of the street in the first place
although, i suppose it does make sense that it's designed in and designed for the country where the some of people are a couple fins removed from being whales and also use electric scooters to move instead of their legs
night steeple
they're slowly evolving the escalades to be tall enough so they can run over adults, its the government's secret way to population control
dire shard
i suppose you do need big mass to run over big mass
if you need front cameras on the front of your truck that feed their stream to your digital display in order to see things in front of you, you need to consider whether you really need to buy a monster truck or not
night steeple
in the spirit of america and freedom we need a cadillac escalade 2, a double decker escalade but the driver seat is upstairs
silent oak
What’s you folks opinions on that slate truck thing?
I personally don’t like it, first of all EV truck EFF no
dire shard
i've never heard of it
my opinions on EVs remain the same
1: EVs are the ideal vehicles for regular consumers who treat their cars like appliances
2: american electric cars suck ass
silent oak
It’s an American car company making this “truck”
It’s got manual roll up windows and cuts the normal amenities
dire shard
we were so close to getting rid of roll up windows entirely
that looks like something honda would come up with
silent oak
A GREY RECTANGLE DEVOID OF ANY COOL
silent oak
Yeah it’s “sub fucking 20k” but no, it’s not with taxes n insurance
dire shard
american company sell a car for under 20k? no way
silent oak
It’s a huge scam company imo
They just come out on social media with adds for an EV truck that’s “sub 20k”
It reeks of it
dire shard
it looks kinda small, if it sat next to the mid-sized truck class like the maverick and santa fe i'd be all for it, we need fewer big ass pickups around
but that is one ugly thing
silent oak
But EV
silent oak
The f150 had style
silent oak
Atleast it looked like a f150 not a blob
dire shard
this thing
eugh
credit to ford for coming out with an actual useful ev that doesn't look stupid
silent oak
credit to ford for coming out with an actual useful ev that doesn't look stupid
If ram makes an EV hope it looks good and has a strong EV motor
I’m not saying they should, if they do so make it have style..
dire shard
opinion on this thing? looks stupid, the batteries are from south korea, but i'm sure there will be people who think it's cute and buy it, good for them but the "omg the car looks cute" audience and the "i want a pickup" audience typically don't overlap, and when they do, they go and buy kei trucks...
silent oak
That’s all EVS have going
silent oak
opinion on this thing? looks stupid, the batteries are from south korea, but i'm...
Then die in a collision on the highway
dire shard
kei truck moment
dire shard
yeah, they inherently don't belong on the streets of north america entirely
but oh well, weebs people like those
let them take what japan is throwing away
silent oak
but oh well, ~~weebs~~ people like those
I call them Japanophiles
Weeb has lost meaning
dire shard
i love smaller cars, i think cars don't need to be as big as they are today
but...
when you live in a country where the roads are massive and straight, and you can afford to have a car that isn't designed around roads the width of an alleyway
silent oak
It looks fucking ugly from the front, probably worse then pre face lift chargers
dire shard
you are a dedicated fan or super stupid for buying a kei car in america, and some might argue that there's not much of a difference between both
silent oak
you are a dedicated fan or super stupid for buying a kei car in america, and som...
Ye!
dire shard
It looks fucking ugly from the front, probably worse then pre face lift chargers
i don't think it's ugly, modern car design seems to be trending towards boxy fronts like in the bronco, land cruiser
what i do think it is, though, is really dull
that stupid grey colour they chose doesn't help
i will say, i actually do like the size
looks like it's returning back to old tacoma size
onyx rivet
that stupid grey colour they chose doesn't help
yeap this
they could have chosen any other colour for their promotional assets and they opted in for grey
dire shard
but wait! it's not just any grey
it's concrete wall grey
matte and boring
the kind of asshat that thinks nardo grey looks good
onyx rivet
on the other hand, its not gloss primer paint
dire shard
i don't know if that's any better or worse
simply a difference of whether you want your asphalt grey car to have the surface texture of asphalt or not 😂
silent oak
on the other hand, its not gloss primer paint
I want that Harley clear coat stuff on my car or something that’s similar that keeps shine lmao
I want it to stay shiny
silent oak
you are a dedicated fan or super stupid for buying a kei car in america, and som...
Here’s a more.. appealing color
I’m not saying it’s good, probably not lmao
dire shard
does it a little bit more justice, that's for sure
the design of the car is dull either way, but this colour at least doesn't make you fall asleep looking at it
silent oak
I swear the EV truck market just sucks
silent oak
If you can fit a hemi v8 in it maybe
dire shard
still looks really... not great, but i really do like the size of the car
silent oak
I’d love to have a off-road truck base with that
Idk if the engine bay can fit a v8 lmao
dire shard
reminds me of those like, 90's broncos
silent oak
80s broncos are nicer imo
dire shard
they were
but what's important is the form factor
smaller truck, two door
bring the sport back into sport utility
dire shard
the first generation was nice
whenever they started doing that cross grille
i don't like that a whole lot
dire shard
haven't seen
if they got rid of the crosshair grille, i'm in
someone did a mesh grille on their charger
it looks sick
the last generation charger, which hardly had the crosshair grille to begin with...
silent oak
Ram 1500 rebel
dire shard
looks so much better with it completely removed though
ah they did get rid of it
thank goodness
silent oak
They have the outline looking grill with 2020 charger headlights
Honestly the 2020 chargers are fucking good with their design
dire shard
yeah because any trim from the GT onward gets a different bumper that gets rid of the dumb grille
silent oak
dire shard
below that, with the SXT, you still get the crosshair grille and it's ughhhhh
silent oak
That grill with the half lines flowing into the ram lettering
silent oak
yeah because any trim from the GT onward gets a different bumper that gets rid o...
Hellcat grills are alot cleaner then the rt grills
I FUCKING hate those silver box thingys on the rt grill
dire shard
2020? not sure wym
silent oak
Hellcat grills had no silver things on them
silent oak
There black boxes.
I want that SRT front grill
Fucking like this, some one hacked the S off the SRT badge lmao
silent oak
Yay! My idea of a rt is that!!
dire shard
that's sweet
it does look a lot better
i'm not a fan of those chrome boxes either, looks like a pencil mustache
silent oak
i'm not a fan of those chrome boxes either, looks like a pencil mustache
Even if it’s covered up in black?
Like pre 2020 models?
silent oak
never a fan of stuff on mesh grilles
What grills on cars do you not like?
Anything too flashy
Or overuse of chrome
dire shard
oh, i don't know if i can think of any, it's like a case by case basis
i'm fine with chrome, depends on application
it's not necessarily me not liking it, but often times there are grilles where you could replace with a mesh grille and it would look a lot better in my eyes
my previous example of the someone with the last generation charger SXT getting rid of the crosshair grille and putting a mesh there instead
or, for the civic type r fk8, j's racing makes a replacement grille that is a mesh and i think that looks better too
silent oak
or, for the civic type r fk8, j's racing makes a replacement grille that is a me...
Civics never had good looking grills
dire shard
i can say, i don't like what the accord has had going on for the past like, ten years
dire shard
Civics never had good looking grills
ah, they look alright now
current generation is a huge improvement in nearly every way
silent oak
current generation is a huge improvement in nearly every way
The accords look like shit tho
silent oak
Like they wanted a modern accord that ended up looking more like a fucking civics poor brother
dire shard
good god i saw a picture the other day of someone who put a fl5-inspired bodykit on their current generation accord
those designs weren't intended for a bigger car
it looks really, really fat
silent oak
The accords are also driven by horrible drivers ngl
Starter car yes
Can’t be as bad as fucking Altima drivers tho, they give anyone with a job a loan for one
dire shard
not only starter car... it's one of the cars that people who don't like cars buy
people who don't like cars, aren't into driving, don't care a whole lot about driving as long as they get to where they need to get to alive
silent oak
people who don't like cars, aren't into driving, don't care a whole lot about dr...
Nissan cars in general
Quashqui the Juke
dire shard
i say alive, because even "in one piece" doesn't apply - so many of these second hand cars have scratches and dents in them from poor parking jobs and swiping concrete pillars and walls
that's the kind of people those cars attract, which means if you buy the cheapest one, it's going to be messed up
silent oak
i say alive, because even "in one piece" doesn't apply - so many of these second...
Your forgetting the obvious black replacement parts
The unpainted door
silent oak
I’ve seen altimas with unpainted fucking parts
silent oak
Like unpainted bumpers and no grill and running all emergency wheels
dire shard
or they pull the bodywork out if possible but still leave it unpainted so there's scratch marks in it
silent oak
The steelies
dire shard
eh, most modern cars have done away with steelies, but the older ones still had steelies and hubcaps
now, running on all four spares... first of all where do you even find three other spares 🤣
silent oak
It’s sad to think older decent looking civics are rare now..
silent oak
Like the 90s civics actually looked like cars you would be actually seen in
dire shard
simple, small car, fun to drive, sounds even funnier when you cross the magic V
dire shard
mazda made some underrated cars, obviously overshadowed by their rotary cars and the mx5
nobody seems to think about the 323/protoge or the old mazda3/axela
silent oak
I can’t get around buying one.. I have an rt so
I like driving big boats
Not lightweight rides
dire shard
my mom used to drive a protege hatch, in like 2004... it was honestly a good looking car
had this baby gr generation wrx look
which, i suppose nobody liked those either
silent oak
If I were to buy a Japanese 4 door, I’d get Lexus
dire shard
heh, doesn't everyone
modern lexus has sort of fallen off as a result of both toyota's cars moving up in terms of material quality and a lack of innovation and killing off their good cars, but old lexus... real good
but... back then, there were actually a lot of decent cars
there's a lot to choose from
silent oak
modern lexus has sort of fallen off as a result of both toyota's cars moving up ...
Are modern Toyota 4 seaters considered luxary now?
The higher trim ones
dire shard
well, subjective
have you seen the new camry's interior
silent oak
Nope
dire shard
it's basically an ES
silent oak
I’ve never liked Camrys just cuz the how older ones looked
dire shard
the latest one doesn't look half bad, but it's sorta like, you can't really tell where the toyota ends and the lexus begins
the material and design is starting to creep upwards
it's a halfway point between old toyota's questionable design choices and lexus' design and material quality
silent oak
Are Lexus cars just slightly upscaled fucking Toyotas
silent oak
So like Lincoln to ford?
silent oak
What Chrysler is to dodge?
Chryslers suck shit now lmao
Haven’t seen a good review of a modern Chrysler brand car
dire shard
the gx460 is a landcruiser underneath, the ES is a camry underneath, the IS and UX are just corollas underneath...
the RX is a rav4 underneath
silent oak
Rav 4s are the shitty crossovers?
hybrid charm
Rav 4s are the shitty crossovers?
What’s the best crossover?
silent oak
What’s the best crossover?
Idk you can count the Durango as one
It’s a hybrid between a suv n crossover
A crossSUV?
dire shard
Rav 4s are the shitty crossovers?
i guess so? they're not bad, but rav4's are the posterchild for cars that everybody that doesn't like cars wants to buy for some reason
silent oak
i guess so? they're not bad, but rav4's are the posterchild for cars that everyb...
Nissan juke
No one who drives a juke likes cars
dire shard
tall suv, doesn't actually do offroad shit so it's just big and tall for the sake of being big and tall, computer-controlled fwd that becomes awd when it detects slip rather than all time awd... basically a corolla engine and transmission in there... the city suv, you know the kind
silent oak
The Durango is actually cool, v8 hemi n all!!
dire shard
there's a chinese phrase that my dad always tells me when he describes toyota's cars: 一鸡三尾
one chicken, three tails
it describes how from one set of parts, toyota has basically created multiple cars by just changing things around, making them taller or lower, longer or shorter - but at the end of the day, they're all fuckin corollas underneath 😂 toyota has sold the world on nine different heights of corolla
dire shard
didn't use to be a v6, is that true? i'm not into trucks
tundra's the same as the sequoia, but most companies have an suv that shares a platform with a truck, kinda normal
silent oak
The tundra is a Tacoma
dire shard
ah, tacoma
silent oak
A 4 runner is a Tacoma but with a back cover
dire shard
hold on no, the tacoma is a smaller truck than the tundra
silent oak
Tundras are huge
silent oak
yes, and tacomas are a midsized truck
If a Tacoma is a mid size.. then a tundra is a mega size.
dire shard
don't think they're the same platform
ahem
back in my day
tacomas used to be sensibly sized!!!
shakes fist at cloud
dire shard
so did everything, huh... all these midsized trucks are full sized now, all the full sized trucks are like 1.5x the length, and now there are new midsized trucks that are the same size as the old midsized trucks...
and you're wondering, how did the old midsize truck grow so big that we need a new midsize truck segment
dire shard
that thing could give a blue whale a new home
dire shard
wheels chosen by someone who doesn't drive a truck because they need it for work...
dire shard
i hate that there's a significant market for suvs that are basically just lifted sedans
these people can get on fine with sedans
or wagons
nope, they have to buy a tall car because they were sold on a false sense of security
if you're going to buy an suv, buy something that actually has full-time awd like a forester...
now there's an suv that can pull double duty, unibody so the drive to work isn't uncomfortable but it's a subaru with subaru's crazy good chassis and awd system so it's going to climb literally any incline
price? like a rav4
why buy a rav4 at that point
silent oak
why buy a rav4 at that point
Buy a fucking old sedan
dire shard
hell, buy a fucking old suv
the first generation honda crv was actually cool
b20b engine
literally the 1800cc engine out of the integra but with bigger bore for more torque and a full 2000cc
imagine that
your suv has one of the coolest engines out of a honda - but cooler
like
IT'S A CRV BRUH 😭 honda cooked hard with the first generation
silent oak
My favorite suv the hellcat Durango
Dodge really made a family car, but you race others in
dire shard
people seem to like that kind of car
probably why the rs6 avant and m5 touring are so well regarded among young people, too
then they grow up and if they find success in life, they buy groan x5m's, rsq8's and uruses
suvification
wagons can't win
silent oak
Wagons are just.. longer sedans imo
silent oak
I never liked them personally
dire shard
if all you're looking for is space, the wagon gives you the exact same space the suv gives - the difference is largely in the car's height, not in the car's interior space
silent oak
Eh vans
dire shard
that's a shoe now those are family cars
dire shard
so undeserved
when you realize that minivans are actually more powerful than they appear, because they're designed to carry around 5+ people
when the van only has the driver in it, it hauls ass hard
dire shard
the odyssey makes like 280 hp - among other regular ass cars, that's insane
you won't see it make pulls when there are five other people in the car ranging like 150 pounds each so having a total of (5+1)*150=900 pounds in the car, but when it's just the one driver...
sleeper van, and not because you can recline the captains seat in the middle row all the way back
never challenge an empty minivan
😭 making more power factory than other cars on the road
dire shard
your car also wasn't designed to fully seat 6 passengers
silent oak
your car also wasn't designed to fully seat 6 passengers
It can seat 5..
Uncomfortable
dire shard
i mean other cars under 300, some yobbo in a fart can non-n elantra who thinks he's hot shit wants to pull on an odyssey and gets demolished because he didn't know that dad bought a 280 hp beast
silent oak
I’m a single person. Why do I need a mini van so
silent oak
I have a hololive plushie on my dash
silent oak
Sakura miko
dire shard
the (holo) council has determined this answer to be based
silent oak
I wanted a Suisei one but the store didn’t have
dire shard
you can order anything online
moreover, suisei deserves a spot in the armrest cd holder 😎
silent oak
Do you like hellcats or higher trims of challengers
dire shard
no, not really
a little opposite of you, like cars that can turn
you gonna tell me challengers don't have cd holders in the armrest?
silent oak
If you want to know a funny thing about them.
Some have an in built mph to kilometers conversion on the digital odometer
dire shard
as in you can toggle it, or that there's just two sets of numbers?
silent oak
as in you can toggle it, or that there's just two sets of numbers?
You can toggle it
The ones built for euro markets have it
dire shard
ah
silent oak
They sold In euro markets
dire shard
isn't that a surprise
here i thought the reason would be that they thought that americans would like to go to canada
silent oak
Do you know what annoys me the most?
When you buy a challenger you get that ugly front bumper plate placement
dire shard
not that most of us are buying more than one new challenger
it's surely not that difficult to change
the question is whether there are holes in the bumper afterwards
silent oak
not that most of us are buying more than one new challenger
It’s cooler when you swap its position to the left or right
dire shard
now that's not so good
nothing that bumper plugs can't fix, but ideally they don't drill holes into the thing...
silent oak
Any other car that suffers from the front plate addiction?
silent oak
How bad?
dire shard
bad enough that people buy bumper plugs
silent oak
Big hole?
dire shard
two small ones
silent oak
God that’s bad
dire shard
the worst
silent oak
All to comply with state laws..
dire shard
which is not ideal because the plugs are two tiny pieces of rubber that cost like 10 dollars unless you pretty much do them yourself, and in the end you still have two bumps where the holes used to be
silent oak
Can’t you buy a factory bumper without them
dire shard
maybe, i'm not sure
but the thing to understand about these cars... they're typically the owner's only car, or their weekend car
they can't really justify spending what, at the lowest like $500 for a bumper without drilled holes
silent oak
Are brzs bad on gas?
silent oak
Unless your a yobo with a racing mindset
dire shard
then you enjoy the fabled smiles per gallon
silent oak
Hellcat owners be like. 10 mpg?
silent oak
The moment you throttle up you drop a gallon
dire shard
gas is cheap in america
when you get to places where gas is like, 1.5x, 2x the price of the average american gas prices... those sports cars with more normal engines like the 86's and brz's start looking more enticing
dire shard
heh, luckily i'm not getting any taller and i have no plans on getting any wider
should fit just fine
i can fit in an a90, i should fit in any generation of the brz
hell, at my size i can probably fit in a cappucino just fine
silent oak
Aren’t brzs like less expensive sport cars.
dire shard
the target market for the challenger is err.... generously proportioned, so it'd be poor for sales if they didn't fit in
silent oak
Idk the difference between brz n gr86
dire shard
pretty much the same car, cosmetic and slight tuning difference
down to what you like the look of better, although gr86's are made in 1:3 the ratio of brz's
silent oak
Brzs are smaller?
dire shard
is it less expensive? well it's affordable, i don't think it's necessarily like a car anybody can just afford
not any smaller than the 86 no
silent oak
So does it reek of vape like all Subaru Imprezas ?
silent oak
Ah good
dire shard
didn't you know? the imprezas are for lesbians, the wrx's are for vapers, but the brz's are for people who can't afford a boxster 😂
silent oak
didn't you know? the imprezas are for lesbians, the wrx's are for vapers, but th...
And outbacks are for lesbian families
You forgot Subarus core audience lmao
silent oak
I’m a dodge enjoyer, shame I’m not a smoker
Or a inner city folk, I’d blend in if I was lmao
dire shard
shame you're not a military grunt who leased their charger at like 30% apr
silent oak
Closer to ford mustangs consumers
dire shard
i don't think having a car with a fat v8 is in the cards for me unfortunately, but plenty of options down low
silent oak
Mustang consumers are boomers most of the time
dire shard
well yeah, who's spending what 30k on their weekend car, which is also their second or third car, on top of their house
mustangs are such a good deal
only way some of us regular folk get to experience a new v8
but at what stage in life, is the question
silent oak
Yeah that or challengers
I swear hemis sound crazy nice, but are way more maintenance heavy
But the v8 coyote is great to
dire shard
very great indeed
hope it would be, for an engine that comes in the cheapest v8 sports car you could buy new
part of what makes it a great package, isn't it
silent oak
Imagine a twin charged v8 coyote
dire shard
bet it's been done
silent oak
Puttting a demon motor in a mustang tho
You know how much a demon 170 crate motor cost?
It’s more then you would think
dire shard
in fact, i didn't even know you could get the 170 as a crate motor..
dire shard
hey, that's the price of the mustang
silent oak
hey, that's the price of the mustang
But my friend it’s a huge v8 hemi with a huge supercharger
dire shard
so it is
an engine the cost of a car
gonna cost a car to put it in, and cost the value of that car to maintain and fuel it too...
some day i'd like to buy a big engine car, go down across the border and fill the car up with fuel that isn't stupid expensive
silent oak
Corvette c8 with a hemi!!
God sounds so fucking nice
The hemi v8 pur in an American super car
dire shard
i don't know if that'd fit in a c8
dire shard
it's not a hemi, but lingenfelter did put a 427 in a c8
that's... 7 liters?
hang on... lingenfelter claims that their 427 twin turbo lt2 c8 can still get 20 mpg...
eh??
dire shard
isn't that a bit unbelievable
and of course, no matter how big of an engine you have, there's always an old grandpa with a bigger one... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP3pEb1ZOgs
silent oak
He’s the king of the local corvette Facebook group
dire shard
needed to put them back in the durango ¯_(ツ)_/¯
sage roost
Do they even still make non-hellcat Durangos
opal breach
post gen 1 camaro
kind osprey
Do they even still make non-hellcat Durangos
Why would anyone want a family suv with under 700 hp?
Absolute npcs
Go buy a Hyundai
silent oak
Why would anyone want a family suv with under 700 hp?
I’d like one
If I ever have a family
sage roost
Why would anyone want a family suv with under 700 hp?
I know right? Anything under 700hp is simply not enough for grocery runs. Starbucks trips and taking the kids to school
698 horsepower is SEVERELY underpowered for the average mother
silent oak
Come again I’m a fucking challenger owner
Spoiled for choice
The moment you start to drive high hp cars daily
You start to hate normal cars
sage roost
Which challenger exactly
sage roost
Tbh the 5.7 and even the pentastar are quite zippy in the Durango
seriously speaking
Then again I'm only used to cars <200hp
silent oak
Then again I'm only used to cars <200hp
The pentastar v6 is nice
sage roost
I keep hearing conflicting things about it
Some say it's the most reliable engine ever put in a Stellantis product
silent oak
Come again I want a fucking ram 1500 so I’m open to trade
sage roost
others say it's a ticking time bomb and you should be ready to get stranded anytime
silent oak
others say it's a ticking time bomb and you should be ready to get stranded anyt...
All about maintenance brother
If I can trade for a ram 1500 I would
sage roost
All about maintenance brother
yeah that's true
here we change the oil every 5000km (3100 miles)
silent oak
I got my challenger after selling my accord to a junk yard lmao
I had saved cash for a new car
Plus the 400- 300 I got for my shitty fucking accord
sage roost
basically my dad's friend had a 300 with the pentastar and he hated it so bad due to the unreliability
but my cousin had a V6 charger and he really liked it
sage roost
not sure
silent oak
Both v6 but both are good cuz AWD
silent oak
The gt and sxt had an optional AWD trim
sage roost
He then sold it, bought a grand Cherokee SRT, sold THAT, then bought a sierra
silent oak
What’s your current ride
sage roost
dare I say he has a problem with buying and selling
sage roost
What’s your current ride
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silent oak
None applicable
rose sierra
Do u guys like beamers
kind osprey
Do u guys like beamers
Unfortunately no, we are exclusively a Mitsubishi Mirage sedan club
😍
kind osprey
🥵
sage roost
Makes a whopping SEVENTY FOUR (74) HORSEPOWER
wispy abyss
I could've been my car, but missile fragments fell on my neighbor's car.
😖
night steeple
doug demuro's most hated kar 
got hired as a driver tomorrow to take some tourists up a big resort on a very tall mountain, time for touge
rose sierra
Well heres my beamer lol
loud spade
here we change the oil every 5000km (3100 miles)
Is it standard to fill up with synthetic oil?
Apparently people don't even know the difference here
If you go into your local autoparts store and ask for fully synthetic they'll look at you like you just mumbled some foreign language
sage roost
neither do the people here tbh
loud spade
eh... I guess so long as you use the right viscosity it's fine
People here change the oil more often than it needs to be changed
loud spade
Total is considered the best here
sage roost
yeah it's either Mobil 1 or total
loud spade
But yeah mobil is also popular choice
sage roost
Honestly no wonder there's been more reliability problems in the US
loud spade
My bike's manual says 3000km intervals for oil change but any mechanic will tell you 800km and the engine's gonna disintegrate itself
sage roost
When the average mileage between oil changes is supposedly 7500 miles
sage roost
we assign one of the trips on the odo for the oil change
- the place that changes it puts a sticker on the door sill
loud spade
What car do you have
kind osprey
Well heres my beamer lol
Dam that's a big ass engine
kind osprey
https://www.motor1.com/news/761849/porsche-963-rsp-reveal/
A Radical for really really rich people
kind osprey
Don't have one <:Sadge:757445535660507166>
Was in that boat for a while
Dw, the time will come when it makes sense
Always put your financial future first before ballin out of something like a car
rose sierra
Dam that's a big ass engine
Nah its just a normal bmw 2.5l lol
kind osprey
Do you track this thingamahbobber?
kind osprey
Ooo
rose sierra
Just needs a clutch then i can put it all back together so i may have to buy one soon lol but oh my god my old clutch was GONE
quiet yew
Hell nah they're stancing MPVs now
silent oak
Hell nah they're stancing MPVs now
Stanced fuggin pt cruisers exist
There’s worse brotha man
onyx rivet
Hell nah they're stancing MPVs now
they've been stancing MPVs for a long time
quiet yew
alphards are especially common
Why? Why make an already heavy car more non functional?
dire shard
it's an mpv
who cares about the weight
bodykit modifications aren't going to significantly increase the weight either
the alphard is modified because it's a luxurious van
it's legitimately vip inside
this is no track car, it's as functional as it needs to be
you're not telling me someone who buys a car with mid row seats that look like this cares about the weight of their car
sage roost
Why? Why make an already heavy car more non functional?
Just like what dalebengbabendebeidiboduobiluwen said, you're not going to track a van
I'd argue stancing luxury mpvs like this would make the ride less comfortable though
dire shard
with roads like in japan, taiwan, and hong kong?
their infrastructure isn't third world like in north america 
their roads are just fine for vans on bags
quiet yew
Just like what dalebengbabendebeidiboduobiluwen said, you're not going to track ...
How tf did you type his name out with ease
mental lion
silent oak
Cyan blue mustang?
I don’t like the modern dark houses taillight or front
Goes away from the pony car aesthetic
jagged sentinel
It’s a homage to an older model
A pretty weak one imo
It's an (admittedly nice-looking) paint color and white wheels, maybe embroidered seats
silent oak
A pretty weak one imo
Exactly, looks less like a “homage” model more like a modern mustang gt
jagged sentinel
They're expensive enough as it is and not selling well at all because of that
silent oak
I know the dark horse model is the base of the newer gt
jagged sentinel
They're expensive enough as it is and not selling well at all because of that
Idk what making a homage that looks nothing like the product it's paying homage to will do to change that
jagged sentinel
I know the dark horse model is the base of the newer gt
jagged sentinel
I'm not sure I would say that entire generation is an homage
The S650 is an evolution of the S550 design wise, Ford said as such themselves
silent oak
I love the 2000s mustangs tho
jagged sentinel
I know the dark horse model is the base of the newer gt
I'm still stuck on this
silent oak
Such a soft spot for that
jagged sentinel
I love the 2000s mustangs tho
Which one, there are like 3 different mustang designs that existed in the 2000s
silent oak
S197s
Idk the facelifts of the eras
Just know how much of an ICON of America the Car is
dire shard
s197 🤤 its design draws inspiration from the first generation and it shows, it looks sogood
retro-futurism, they call it
nowadays they don't know how to do it, modern retro-futuristic designs suck
mental lion
s197 🤤 its design draws inspiration from the first generation and it shows, it ...
If only it had a better engine
Gotta say the gt500 if that model is my favorite mustang
silent oak
retro-futurism, they call it
nowadays they don't know how to do it, modern retro...
Challengers are a good retro futurism example
The body lines are on point to the first gen
dire shard
yeah
the new charger is too, did you notice
it's such a shame with the new charger, the platform is ruined
it looks so good
people think the new charger is a challenger successor... i mean technically it is, but there have always been differences in the body between the two going all the way back to their first generations, and it's reflected in the modern models... it's its own thing
silent oak
people think the new charger is a challenger successor... i mean technically it ...
The challenger and chargers first gen have always been the same nearly
Both 2 door pony cars
But with different motors n designs
jagged sentinel
Both 2 door pony cars
This is wrong
The challenger was a pony car, charger was a muscle car
silent oak
Challenger is now the most “muscle car” of the modern gen
jagged sentinel
But with different motors n designs
The chargers and challengers of the late 60s shared motors and drivetrains, likely many other components, given other manufacturer practices then
silent oak
The chargers and challengers of the late 60s shared motors and drivetrains, like...
Stop reminding me of the good days of cars
jagged sentinel
silent oak
<a:skulgif:939533773102530591>
Air bags? Who needs em die like men
mental lion
And if you somehow don’t it would be awfully painful
jagged sentinel
Back when seatbelts were an optional extra and the extent of vehicle bodywork safety equipment was a bolt-on chrome bumper that did...
Very little to protect either the car or whatever poor goober was being hit by it
mental lion
Very little to protect either the car or whatever poor goober was being hit by i...
You know very well nothing is capable of damaging a 60s car
jagged sentinel
You know very well nothing is capable of damaging a 60s car
Have you seen 60s car crashes
They crumbled like paper mache
silent oak
your either dead or near dead
jagged sentinel
It was just accepted that people usually died in crashes
That doesn't happen if the cars are durable, this only happens if they aren't
mental lion
They crumbled like paper mache
Ouch
jagged sentinel
There's a video that someone made of crashing a 50s impala and a 2000s impala head-on
mental lion
I’ve heard that cars were much tougher in the past which is also why they’re dangerous
jagged sentinel
There's a video that someone made of crashing a 50s impala and a 2000s impala he...
When I say the old impala crumpled like paper...
jagged sentinel
I’ve heard that cars were much tougher in the past which is also why they’re da...
Nope; if anything the opposite is true
silent oak
Modern cars are way safer but less fun
jagged sentinel
They were almost as heavy as cars are now, but a fraction of the rigidity
mental lion
Nvm lmao
jagged sentinel
Street paste
Fuckin jelly lmao
silent oak
That hot assistant in your passenger seat is too
jagged sentinel
jagged sentinel
Nvm lmao
The body shop class at my vocational high school has to reinforce the panels of really old cars they paint because they were so flimsy lol
mental lion
The body shop class at my vocational high school has to reinforce the panels of ...
Damn
What made them heavy then
jagged sentinel
Everything was made of steel
And the concept of weight conservation and fuel efficiency was an afterthought at best
silent oak
Everything was made of steel
Le back in my day tweets