transportation

[kind osprey]

Real question is who tf is buying Porsche Taycans and Audi E trons brand new. They are $120,000 new and in 2 and a half years they are $50,000

O_o

[ember relic]

I was talking about EVs in general

Most people around me only think of buying them to save fuel

[kind osprey]

Do you live in Europe?

[ember relic]

No

UAE

[kind osprey]

Oh that doesn't make any sense

[ember relic]

Lol

[kind osprey]

Electricity probably costs more than gas there

[ember relic]

Yeah petrol is so cheap here, it’s like $1/liter 💀

1 or 1 and a half

Also EVs takes so long to charge

[kind osprey]

What happened to gas there being super cheap

Why did it get so much more than I thought it was

[ember relic]

So much more?

Wdym?

You think it’s expensive?

[kind osprey]

Yea 1 a liter isn't middle east cheap tbh

Weren't they filling up for like 44 cents

[ember relic]

Nah man 😭

Inflation exists everywhere

[kind osprey]

1 a liter is Europe cheap

Thay would be expensive here

Countries like Norway are absolutely crazy

It's the equivalent of like $10 a gallon so if you have a little Honda It's $120 to fill up basically

At that point I see why so many people have ev's there

[ember relic]

Ok even if for some reason you do get it save the fuel cost, it takes so god damn long to charge them

It’s much better and reliable to refuel a petrol car

[loud spade]

How is that cheap

It’s 82 cent per liter here

[ember relic]

Compared to my home country it’s cheap

Wait

Wait

I’ve just confirmed 💀

It’s actually $0.74

The expensive one is a different type of fuel

[loud spade]

That makes more sense

95 octane is about 82 cents here

98 slightly more

Perks of being in the middle east

[mental lion]

Only makes sense if you get a good lease deal

I don’t think anyone pay the hefty sticker price outright

[trim sun]

Some abandoned tracks. Love photography

[mental lion]

Was there a guard chasing a kid ?

[trim sun]

Heard a dog barking some guy yelled HEY pretty big guy

[jagged sentinel]

https://www.motor1.com/features/752730/mclaren-w1-hybrid-system/

As if McLarens didn't have enough issues with reliability and quality control

[silent oak]

What’s more funny is hyper cars and reliability

It’s even worse then a classic car

[modern gazelle]

All WRC games from 4 to 6 are on sale and are below $1.50

Which one should I get

I sold enough cards to get that much in my wallet

[onyx rivet]

https://fixupx.com/autocar/status/1899415102958256565

[dawn drift]

#other-games

[silent oak]

100k.. gets 335 hp..

Rich people ain’t gonna drive that.. they are gonna leave it in their garage to collect dust, they have like chauffeur for daily commutes..

[modern gazelle]

Oh yeah I forgot that exists

[modern gazelle]

I love Morgan but what the fuck is going on with the back of this thing

[silent oak]

Looks like a French designer had their way with it

[tight surge]

hottake: buggati tourbillion is a long chiron

[silent oak]

Hot take. I can’t afford that shit

[kind osprey]

Hp never directly translated to the price of a car. This thing is a resto mod that probably weighs as much as a Miata

So 335hp is definitely a healthy figure

[silent oak]

I can get 300 out of a challenger easy

And cheaper

And much more pretty I might add.. as a mopar gal

[jagged sentinel]

Most of the motors Mopar sell make around 300 horsepower, especially those in their bigger vehicles

[silent oak]

The 2023 rt makes 375hp

I got a buddy who’s offering 17k for his v6 he wants to sell

I kinda want it

[jagged sentinel]

A V6 ram from 2013 made 305

[silent oak]

Is the truck stereotype of underpowered for the engine it’s got apply to ram?

[jagged sentinel]

It's a V6, what do you expect from a 12 year old motor

And that same V6 10 years later in a Durango makes 10 less horsepower

[silent oak]

I heard ram is bringing back them hemi

[jagged sentinel]

It's funny that an engine with an additional liter of displacement and two cylinders more makes massive 5 more horsepower for the same year

[silent oak]

After our administration took away the previous environmental regulations stifling the hemi

5 more angry ponies! Damn

The new RAM TRX will have a v8 with 700 hp according to mopar insiders

The 5.7 L v8

[mental lion]

Weighing twice as much

[silent oak]

I really don’t care

I’m an idiot who wants a hellcat

You think I care about the weight of the car

[mental lion]

Hellcat makes 700 or 800 hp

[silent oak]

And is fun

And makes your wallet go away

[opal forum]

And gets stolen off of your driveway faster than a Romanian steals a dropped wallet off of the street

[silent oak]

if you live in the city

[kind osprey]

That engine is huge I sure hope it would get at least 300

[dire shard]

old american v8s when they make 90 hp out of 7 liters

[silent oak]

post or before the 70s?

[silent oak]

after the 70s the emmisions regs happened and killed any fun in big blocks

[jagged sentinel]

By the time we figured out how to get horsepower past a catalytic converter, Big Blocks were largely obsolete

[silent oak]

i want a 426 hemi..

those are fun

powerful race engines

[jagged sentinel]

Big blocks as a whole made good race engines

[silent oak]

in the 70s the challenger had the 426 hemi

only 150 made though

[jagged sentinel]

The 426 was Chrysler's magnum opus

[silent oak]

yessss

i would love a modern challenger with a challenger hemi crate engine

Heritage edition challenger

[analog tulip]

hey everyone

[jagged sentinel]

https://www.jalopnik.com/1808821/tesla-cybertruck-testing-towing/

[analog tulip]

hey

[silent oak]

Oh looks it’s the truck that somehow managed passes inspection while being the largest eyesore and road hazard

No wonder it’s hog shit

[main cosmos]

We might see him destroying an f1 car

Tororoso high likely

[night steeple]

no miat bitches?

[tropic timber]

[versed fulcrum]

something is off......

[static gale]

pic has this energy

[jagged sentinel]

https://defencesecurityasia.com/en/france-unleashes-the-super-rafale-a-direct-challenge-to-the-f-35/

I will never stop saying how exotic and beautiful the Rafale is

[silent oak]

hey people would the MERC x class pickup sell well in USA?

i want one so bad IRL

[jagged sentinel]

Doubt it tbh

[jagged sentinel]

It's a Nissan

[silent oak]

is there a US model available?

[silent oak]

which truck is it!! i want one becuase its such a cool regal truck

[jagged sentinel]

No

The most powerful engine it has made around 250 horsepower

[silent oak]

i want one becuase they look cool

[jagged sentinel]

Debatable

If you want a US version of this, just get a ranger

[silent oak]

any specific model? year?

[jagged sentinel]

That's the closest comparison I can make, given they compete in the same segment abroad

[jagged sentinel]

Same years

Except you'll get much more power in an American ranger

[silent oak]

is it worth it saving for a f150 over a ranger ?

[jagged sentinel]

And probably similar build quality, all things considered

[silent oak]

i never owned a "big" truck

[jagged sentinel]

Depends

[silent oak]

nearly got a RAM

not a TRX becuase im not the rich farmers son

[jagged sentinel]

If you plan on using the extra frame, bed and power you pay extra for, than get an F150

If not, get a ranger, if you don't plan to use what that has, get a maverick or don't get a truck if you have any sense (which I don't, because I want an F150 and have no good use for it)

[silent oak]

if newer rams come with 5.7s id buy one

i hope its true

ive never driven a ram before

i love the new look

it looks like a Dodgeified pick up

[jagged sentinel]

They drive like any other full size, if maybe a little smoother compared to the equivalent ford

2500s aren't as smooth, especially the back wheels bcs of the stronger rear suspension

[jagged sentinel]

Nobody needs a TRX

However

[silent oak]

they look ccool

you cant lie

[jagged sentinel]

I want one

[silent oak]

I want one

hey do you think a UTE style car would be popular in USA like a challenger UTE

think of the El Camino

[jagged sentinel]

The geriatrics over at GM missed out by not making a rival

[jagged sentinel]

The el Camino proved there wasn't a market for the Ute in the US

Unfortunately

I would fucking love one too, especially one of those hotshit Holden HSVs

[silent oak]

but if Dodge did a limited run of UTE challengers? would it be a good test run?

6.2 or 6.4 L v8

[jagged sentinel]

If they were still making the challenger, sure

[jagged sentinel]

GM is kinda not really participating in the insanity of the American super-sports-car market

[silent oak]

what manufacters could join the super sports market?

[jagged sentinel]

Ford has: RTR, the GT350, GT500, Code Red, Raptor, Raptor R, Bronco Raptor, Ranger Raptor

Dodge has: everyone and everything SRT was ever involved in, I don't think I need to elaborate on that

Chevy has: Camaro ZL1, Corvette Z06/ZR1... And that's pretty much it

[silent oak]

i know stupid idea but tesla

they make fast cars

you cant lie

if theres ever an EV super sport market

[jagged sentinel]

Quick

[silent oak]

has the porsche EVs ever been tested against teslas?

idk i dont follow EV stuff

[jagged sentinel]

The Taycan is an EV every reasonable car enthusiast should approve of

[silent oak]

The dodge EV is opposite

It’s like counter intuitive of the brand

Imagine Porsche makes affordable, economical sedan.. it goes against their high end upscale standards

[jagged sentinel]

It wouldn't be worth it for Porsche simply because of how they do things

[silent oak]

Dodge was only bending the knee to the prior regs

Ford already did lol they made a shit mustang EV

[jagged sentinel]

No it was because of a Portuguese man who had zero damn business at the helm of the beating heart of the modern American muscle scene

Chrysler had a terrible 2024

[silent oak]

They should bounce back with the return of a v8

[jagged sentinel]

Chrysler as in Dodge, Ram and Chrysler, not the Chrysler motor company

[silent oak]

Rams will get v8s

[jagged sentinel]

Dodge probably will first

It's only right

Don't you think

[jagged sentinel]

As potentially xenophobic as that sounds, I am absolutely NOT trying to be racist here, it's just evident that he did not understand the American automotive market

[silent oak]

I haven’t seen the engine bay of the new charger

It should be big enough

[jagged sentinel]

Apparently not without a solid amount of remodeling and changes

It was designed for
A. EV batteries
B. An Inline 6, which is longer than it is wide

[silent oak]

So bringing back the challenger..

[jagged sentinel]

Honestly I hope not

[silent oak]

Challenger prices are kinda low so I think not

[jagged sentinel]

The challenger is almost enough to vote

And the Challenger's interior was dated in 2020, let alone 2025

It needs a full redesign and rethink

[silent oak]

I love the 2010s looking one

[jagged sentinel]

It would also cannibalize sales of the charger

[silent oak]

I love the physical display

[jagged sentinel]

If done right, analogue displays are nicer than digital ones

[silent oak]

Like in the case of the newer challengers? I love those.

[jagged sentinel]

In a sports car, analogue gauge cluster any day of the week

Fight me

[sage roost]

bring back 2 decade old platform for 2026 model year

trust

[silent oak]

Just the analog gauges

Not the digital tablet

[jagged sentinel]

Yeah that's what I meant sorry

Also I know they won't but please god give us an option for tactile HVAC controls

Fuck display-integrated controls

I think I speak for many on that

[sage roost]

I think the 6th gen Camaro's interior seemed like the nicest of the 3

[silent oak]

I love how dodge did the new challenger charger interiors imo but it’s over used since 2016

[jagged sentinel]

It was the most expensive of the three

[sage roost]

still is

used

[jagged sentinel]

You paid more because you got more

[silent oak]

If they put the shit new charger interior in a newer dodge durango is rip it out

[jagged sentinel]

Since the 5th gen debuted in 2009 it has always been the best handling of the three "pony cars"

[sage roost]

plenty of reviewers considered it a big Miata

or a BRZ

[jagged sentinel]

It was the most well rounded of the three by far

Also bumblebee

[sage roost]

I consider the 6th gen ZL1 to be my achievable dream car

6 speed specifically

[silent oak]

I want a manual hellcat or demon

[jagged sentinel]

I would fucking LOVE a 6th gen ZL1

[silent oak]

Or hear me out.. a 70s body challenger with a hellcat motor

[jagged sentinel]

What I want more is a CTS-V or CT5-V Blackwing, as fanboyed as those cars are, I love them

[sage roost]

I also must be in the minority that likes how the 2019-2023 6th gen looked

[jagged sentinel]

Especially the CT5-V, Cadillac was absolutely based for putting a 6-speed manual

[sage roost]

I mean it's basically a sedan ZL1 lol

[jagged sentinel]

And apparently, like 65% of CT5-Vs ordered were manuals, which tells me Cadillac absolutely nailed the audience with that

[sage roost]

GM absolutely cook when it comes to performance vehicles

[jagged sentinel]

When they want to they can deliver an absolute gem

It's funny how many people forget that Cadillac is really good at making fast cars

They've been racing for decades

[sage roost]

If I had fuck you money the Escalade V is up there

[jagged sentinel]

Absolutely

Have you seen comparisons between the Escalade V and the equivalent Benz or BMW

It's hilarious

[silent oak]

Is the Camaro ZR1 cool ?

[jagged sentinel]

I don't care that it's slower than a Urus or not as good in the corners as a BMW

[silent oak]

Or is it ZL1

I don’t know my Camaro lore

[jagged sentinel]

It's fast and loud and that's what I love in fun cars

[jagged sentinel]

It's the Camaro's top model

[silent oak]

How much Hp compared to dodges more higher end trims?

[sage roost]

650

[jagged sentinel]

650 horsepower in a 6th gen ZL1

[silent oak]

Oh hellcats make 700-ish

[jagged sentinel]

But keep in mind it's considerably lighter

[sage roost]

but it puts the power down much better than the comparable hellcat

[jagged sentinel]

And it can handle

[silent oak]

But compared to demons?

The 170

[jagged sentinel]

The 170 is a one trick pony

It's a drag car

The ZL1 is a sports car

[silent oak]

I would absolutely love to own a demon 170 for its pure power

And ability to piss off my friends HOA

[jagged sentinel]

You could get 170 power from a ZL1 for 170 money iirc

[silent oak]

But I’m a dodge fan

I have my brand loyalty

And I just like the body lines of challengers more

[jagged sentinel]

Not to get political but I think the concept of brand loyalty is dated at best

[silent oak]

The body lines look so fucking good on a challenger

The aggressive styling

[jagged sentinel]

The challenger is the best reimagining of its golden age version of the three

They fuckin nailed it with the styling I can't lie

[silent oak]

They somehow took the best from both chargers of old and challengers of old

Like the grill arrangement and the headlights

[sage roost]

could say that to the truck owners that own either of the ram/GM/ford trucks and swear they won't sit in the other trucks even if they were paid to

[silent oak]

Eh I’d never sit in a fucking European truck

[kind osprey]

Weight is a much bigger facotr in enjoyment for how I like to drive than overall power

[sage roost]

I'm specifically talking about those 3

[silent oak]

I love heavier cars

[jagged sentinel]

For me, sound is probably the most important

[kind osprey]

I'd probably enjoy a camaro or mustang

[silent oak]

They just feel better then light

[kind osprey]

But I like how the challenger looks

[silent oak]

Which era?

[sage roost]

Also those exist?

[kind osprey]

Any

[sage roost]

I can't think of any euro truck tbh

[silent oak]

Peugot has trucks

[jagged sentinel]

Yes, they're just neutered compared to American trucks lol

[sage roost]

Ah right. The ram 1200

[silent oak]

But fuck peugot (except for you 206)

[sage roost]

yeah VW has one too

[silent oak]

Only good French car

[jagged sentinel]

The most powerful engine options in European trucks are equivalent to like the middle or lower engine options in American trucks lmao

[kind osprey]

Physics doesn't around a corner, but if you enjoy highway or straight line stuff then it's a lot less of a burden

I love canyon carvers

Things that take tight turns at 60-70mph

[jagged sentinel]

@silent oak question

[silent oak]

Hmm?

[sage roost]

There's a ram 1200 and a fiat something thats based on the Peugeot truck

[jagged sentinel]

What do you think about the S550 mustang GT350R?

[silent oak]

Ew

[sage roost]

and the last gen of them was based on a Mitsubishi

[kind osprey]

S550, they are naming mustangs after Mercedes now? Smh my head

[jagged sentinel]

That's the chassis code you silly goose

[silent oak]

Look fucking sweet

[jagged sentinel]

Wouldn't you like to know how it sounds

[kind osprey]

Idc about the chassis code my key fob unlocks the vehicle not some stupid code

[jagged sentinel]

https://youtu.be/x72WjAotJGE?si=MD46J-IAbeNniMcx

[silent oak]

Better than a hemi?

[jagged sentinel]

[sage roost]

he doesn't know

[silent oak]

I love the sound of a 6.2 L hemi

[jagged sentinel]

he doesn't know

[jagged sentinel]

Doesn't compare

[kind osprey]

It revs higher and flat plane so it probably does sound more sporty

Idk if it flat plane I'm just guessing

[jagged sentinel]

Ford has to mess with the exhaust to get it to sound more american

And my GOD does it sound awesome

[silent oak]

But in a muscle don’t you want a beefier sound

[kind osprey]

Mustangs and camaros don't feel like muscle anymore

[silent oak]

Id your buying a mustang you’d want a muscle car sound not a sports car sound

[kind osprey]

They are trying to be multiple things to appeal to the most customers

[silent oak]

It’s like fucking trying to appeal to Europeans

[kind osprey]

Dodge is good at one thing, sticking to the tradition of it

[jagged sentinel]

Not to be pedantic but mustangs and camaros were never muscle cars

[silent oak]

(Not EV)

[silent oak]

Used to be..

[jagged sentinel]

No, never

[kind osprey]

Oh I firgot that abomination existed

The ev charger

[silent oak]

There’s a reason I would never upgrade to it

[kind osprey]

Lease deals on that must be cheap as hell

[silent oak]

I’d upgrade to a hellcat faster

[kind osprey]

$65,000 car for $290 a month

[jagged sentinel]

@silent oak Where do you think the term pony car came from

[silent oak]

Sporty affordable car

[sage roost]

Personally I wouldn't take it if it was free

[silent oak]

But mustangs are far from affordable

Now atleast

[jagged sentinel]

What car do you think coined the term pony car

[silent oak]

Mustangs when v8s made power ?

[kind osprey]

Mitsubishi Mirage

[jagged sentinel]

[kind osprey]

Mustangs were inline 6's

[silent oak]

Dodge stealth?

Jk

Fuck that rebadged trash

90s 80s were a tough year for dodge

[jagged sentinel]

In essence, a pony car is (or was) a smaller, sportier muscle car

Wrong reply

They were always technically distinct from muscle cars, and the challenger was Chrysler's pony car, alongside the Cuda

[kind osprey]

Why pay $45,000 for a slightly used hellcat when I could get a brand new amazing original and fantastic 2025 DODGE HORNET

[silent oak]

Idk id prefer a pretty hellcat imo just me

[jagged sentinel]

No self respecting American car person wouldn't

[kind osprey]

Dodge hornet with dodge badge = $45,000
Dodge hornet with Maserati badge = $78,000

[jagged sentinel]

The hornet is an insult to dodge

[jagged sentinel]

I thought it was an Alfa

[silent oak]

I want one idc bout the condition of title

[kind osprey]

It's Dodge Alfa and Maserati

Alfas is like $55k-60k

[jagged sentinel]

Suki watch this video

Please

It's one of the best sounding cars Ford has ever made

Probably one of the best sounding American cars ever made, period

[silent oak]

How about the classic 70s hemi?

Those roar

[jagged sentinel]

Meh

454 sounds better

I love the 426 but it sounds like it has a stuffed nose

[silent oak]

I like it because it was a limited run engine in the challenger

Only 150 made

[jagged sentinel]

https://youtu.be/o8B6heJANQk?si=659liqa7NTBi8mT8

One of my favorite videos

[silent oak]

I love classic chevelle SS’s

Those are cool

[jagged sentinel]

https://youtu.be/jh5qdkLR2ow?si=Omw_52zOJOoms7_z

Say what you want about the 2/3-Valve 289s and 302s but damn if they don't sound amazing

[silent oak]

I like to stay in my hemi range

[jagged sentinel]

I'd never get a 4.6 mustang

[silent oak]

I’d love to hemi swap a 70s challenger

[jagged sentinel]

They suck, I just love how damn good they sound

[silent oak]

A demon 170 hellephant or hellcat swap

[jagged sentinel]

If I had to pick I'd probably pick either a 6th gen ZL1 or a 5th Gen ZL1

5th gen ZL1 entirely because of bumblebee

No other reason

I mean it has an LS too, which helps

But mainly bumblebee

[silent oak]

I’ve seen a resto mod 70s challenger with a hell car engine

[jagged sentinel]

I've seen several

In-person I might add

[silent oak]

Fucking cool but I’d step up and do a demon 170 motor

[jagged sentinel]

Why isn't your name Suki | Demon 170 Enthusiast

[silent oak]

The engine is 30k factory

I could buy a salvage 170 for the engine

[jagged sentinel]

Bold of you to assume they'd leave a motor like that in the vehicle if there was any chance it would work again without costing more than a new motor to get working

[silent oak]

Idk dumb luck wins some times

[jagged sentinel]

That's an insanely exclusive and expensive car

[silent oak]

The best ones are the jail break models

40 one of one colors

[jagged sentinel]

Don't call them one-of-one

[silent oak]

Unobtainable by normal means

Factory painted in heritage colors

There’s only one of each color

[jagged sentinel]

It reeks of Corvette owner narcissism whenever someone pulls that card on a non-limited-production vehicle

Are you talking about the last call models

[silent oak]

But there’s a panther pink one

No jail break demon 170

The jail break demon 170s had only 40 made

One in each heritage color

[jagged sentinel]

30 grand on top of the base price? Goddamn dodge knows what they're doing

[silent oak]

Factory painted

They only made one factory painted panther pink model

[jagged sentinel]

And it'll be on bring-a-trailer in 3 years for half a million dollars

[silent oak]

More

The dodge community always over pays

More so the ones with less then average credit score

[jagged sentinel]

Yeah and they'll pay with something like that fucking Chase bank glitch that happened a little while ago

What the fuck were those people thinking that "took advantage" of it

[silent oak]

And get their accounts reset

[jagged sentinel]

It's literal fucking fraud

[silent oak]

Or get charged with the exact amount they stole

[jagged sentinel]

And those who spent that money were put in debt with zero forgiveness

[silent oak]

Even Biden couldn’t pardon their debt

[jagged sentinel]

He shouldn't have

[silent oak]

Yes he shouldn’t of at all

[jagged sentinel]

Everyone who did that deserved what they got

[silent oak]

It’s like people buying cars above their pay grade and getting repo men on them

[jagged sentinel]

Those videos are fun to watch

[silent oak]

That’s why I want a salvage title 2018 demon

I can pay it off

Found one with no more damage just dents and scratches

Just need to know reserve bid

[jagged sentinel]

If it's a salvage title with "just dents and scratches" I bet your ass there's more than meets the eye

[silent oak]

But hope it’s not too bad

I’m hoping it’s an easy fix

[jagged sentinel]

Don't kid yourself man

I hate to be that guy but if it was an easy fix it wouldn't have been totalled by their insurance company

A salvage title means that the damage was so severe that it exceeds the car's value, and it goes without saying that limited production purpose built cars like demons are worth quite a bit even now

[silent oak]

Sometimes company’s total shit for little damage

[jagged sentinel]

The Demon is a limited production vehicle

[silent oak]

I want one so much

I’d pay so much to have one

Even a 2018

[jagged sentinel]

It's not like there's a lot of difference between a 2018 and a 2023

Dodge isn't one to make a ton of changes over time

[silent oak]

Isn’t it a hp difference

[jagged sentinel]

And I'm pretty sure they only made the demons in 2018

Limited production vehicle and all

[silent oak]

And in 2023

170 models

[jagged sentinel]

I'm talking about the regular demon

Good luck finding a salvage title demon 170 at all, let alone a salvageable one that won't set you back 80 grand to get on the ground

[silent oak]

I don’t know production numbers but if it’s limited must be in the 1000s

[jagged sentinel]

3000

3300, but the extra 300 were for canada

[silent oak]

Damn.. if only the people who bought demons would be good drivers

Worse then hellcat owners

[jagged sentinel]

What gives you the idea they aren't

[silent oak]

I’ve seen bad hellcat owners

[jagged sentinel]

There are bad apples in every tree, doesn't mean every apple in that tree is a bad apple

[silent oak]

I want a hellcat so bad

Nothing will stop me

[jagged sentinel]

I...am aware

[silent oak]

It’s above my wage lol

[sly ermine]

Can like 2 or so ppl help me transport some goods?

I'm in a invite server so we don't have to worry about griefers

I'm on ps4

[stuck owl]

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[sly ermine]

Oh ok sorry

[pseudo charm]

They’re pretty nice cars

Simultaneously overrated and underrated at the same time

[silent oak]

I want one with fucking alcantara seats

[silent oak]

You have no clue how much I’d shell to just have one

[pseudo charm]

I drove a Hellcat once when I worked at a dealership and it was honestly a pretty nice driving experience

Although stopping by the gas station to fill it up was pretty sketchy

[silent oak]

Ive seen some at auction yards with minimal damage for cheap

[pseudo charm]

Was lowkey holding my pepper spray in my pocket the whole time

[silent oak]

I’d daily it

Idc about gas if I did I’d drive a more efficient car

[pseudo charm]

Yeah I’ve seen some 2015-2017 Hellcats for like 50-60K

Way cheaper than the 2020+ models

Fairly low mileage as well

[silent oak]

That’s the cost of a new Prius prime lol

[pseudo charm]

Tell me about it 😭

[silent oak]

I swear modern car prices for “economical” cars is insane.

[pseudo charm]

But hey you get like 103 mpg with the new Prius Prime at least

[silent oak]

Camry for 20k

Civic for 25k

[pseudo charm]

Yeah 20-25K being considered the cheap and affordable cars is pretty crazy

[silent oak]

Plus your not accounting for the shit credit score of newer drivers

So it’s about 30k when you finally pay it off

With interest

[pseudo charm]

Ive seen some dealerships mark up the 2025 Camry for like 40K+. For only like 5-10 grand more and you can get a used 2015-2017 Jaguar F-Type 😭

Hell even the 2020-2022 V6 F-Types go for like 40-45K used

[silent oak]

And you can get a half way decent fucking challenger SXT with all the fancy stuff for that price

And still be in the high tens in mpg

[pseudo charm]

Yeah you’re paying damn near sports car prices for these new economy cars. It’s crazy

[silent oak]

Even old shitbox 2000s cars are shit with mileage now

I swear these young kids don’t know a lick of sense when trying to maintain good Mileage

How in the world is a corolla new… worth near 25-30k

[dire shard]

you think that's bad? the fourty year old ones are 30k+

[silent oak]

30+ for a FUCKING COROLLA.

[dire shard]

all because some guy named tacummy fujiwanker drove one

[silent oak]

My challenger RT costed less.

And it was a used dealer car

[pseudo charm]

Yeah I’ve seen 86’s for 40-45K

Paying 45K for a 40 year old sub 100 horsepower car is crazy

[calm lava]

nightshark mk2 just dropped https://fxtwitter.com/LucasBotkin/status/1899104324870967519

[dire shard]

the ones people care about aren't sub-100 hp

the stock 4A-GE made like 130hp

something like 104 to the wheel, if you factor in 20% loss
in a car less than one ton? yeah i get the appeal, i like low powered low weight cars

but yeah... it's a corolla

the reason people liked it was because it's a cheap rwd platform... well it's not cheap anymore, so what's the point

15k used gt86 does the same thing but makes 200hp out of the fa20

granted the engine is not that tunable compared to the 4A-GE, but high-end tuning of the 4A-GE really only gets you to 200 anyways

well, i was just talking to my friend about this: if somebody's heart is fulfilled by spending 30k on a fourty year old corolla, good for them
liking cars is rarely a rational thing, and you'll come to regret buying something just because its better on paper rather than following your heart
if you need to be the fujiwanker in your life, that 30k is pennies compared to the regret of not satisfying your dreams

you could pity someone spending 30k on a fourty year old corolla that happens to be their dream car, just as that person who now owns their dream car would pity somebody else whose dream car is some 600k ferrari that they'll never be able to own

but if we were rational, gosh what a dumb purchase

[silent oak]

Yeah and people say they are fun

[pseudo charm]

I’ve heard people say they’re fun yeah

Definitely not worth 40K though.

Same with R34 GTRs. Great car, great aftermarket support with huge potential for huge power. Not worth 150-200K though

[silent oak]

No one’s happy in a Corolla not even fun cars even

Rather cry in a Porsche or dodge then an eco box

[pseudo charm]

Real

[silent oak]

Every Corolla driver I know has been driving on the replacement wheel steelies on all 4 tires from a junk yard

[pseudo charm]

I will say the newer corollas are fairly nice

I’ve seen some pretty cool modded out 2023 and 2024 corollas

25K base price though? Crazy

[onyx rivet]

NA was quite close in geting a VE Commdore ute rebadged as some G8 but Pontiac operations shut down

we would never know if that would have revitalised the US ute market

[rose sierra]

Me n dads beamers 💪

[kind osprey]

Yea 25k-32k seems to be where the good smaller economy sedans sit

[pseudo charm]

Nice

[silent oak]

A new Prius is 28k

A new VW golf is 20k- 30k..

[kind osprey]

Yea Prius's can get up to $40,000 it's crazy

The civic I wanted was $31,400

[mental lion]

Isn’t the highest trim camry $40k?

[static gale]

i wish the new ones were 20k

they start higher than 30 here

[silent oak]

I drive a dodge so I can’t complain bout price

[pseudo charm]

Low mileage 2024 TRDs are like ~40K yeah

I’ve seen some for 45K

[sage roost]

Top trim Camry is like 43

[stuck owl]

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[silent oak]

Still wouldn’t wana be seen in one granted

[dire shard]

aintnoway, the new camry is based

though they got rid of the v6

[silent oak]

I drive a challenger you know my opinion on eco boxes

[dire shard]

yeah, i know the typical opinion americans driving american cars have towards other cars and their drivers 😔

[silent oak]

I love the semi retro futuristic design of it

I’m not American by nationality

[dire shard]

someone who drives a challenger is american by association

[silent oak]

I still have my rt from when I lived in Arizona

Old girl lasted me this long

[dire shard]

the place with no snow

so what possessed you to move your rwd boat from a place that doesn't know what snow is to the snowiest region in the country

[silent oak]

Cheap living..

[dire shard]

😔

shit

that's fr

[silent oak]

Arizona got flooded with west coasters

Soo the mid west in my boat it is

[dire shard]

drifting in the sno

[silent oak]

I had re painted my dodge to be a the octane red

In Arizona it was the white paint

Since obvious.. you know whole hot thing

[dire shard]

you mean you can have a black car without the insides melting now

[silent oak]

I can work on my car out doors too!

Without burning my hand

[dire shard]

yeah, instead you need three layers, a parka, and mittens

[silent oak]

Beats working outside on my car with shorts and tank top

[silent oak]

In our colder months yes

It can be pretty hot in summer months out here

[dire shard]

same

well, 5 months of being hot beats 9 months of being hot

[silent oak]

I do miss the cool local drinks from az

And local car shops I got to know

[dire shard]

comes with moving, but at least you could drive back if you really wanted to

for a weekend or something, and catch up

i don't know if that's something feasible or something you'd want to do, but it's a hell of a lot better than people who have to fly across the world to catch up or eat actual good food 😔

[silent oak]

Arizona got good clubs too if you drive through phoenix

[dire shard]

really

not a damm club here

places with night life are so cool

[silent oak]

I do prefer Florida clubs

The drive to Florida is nice

The thing I found rather funny researching the challengers is that they made a drag pack challenger

Only 50 made

[rose sierra]

Thanks man🙏

[silent oak]

Anyone here recommend a truck? Any suggestions? Idk I’m looking for a ram BUT open to suggestions

[dire shard]

old tacoma

be sensible

[silent oak]

What years?

I like the newer look of the Tacoma

But what’s the middle ground for you

[dire shard]

honestly depends on you

what do you need a truck for

the full sized trucks from 20 years ago are like half the size of the full sized trucks now

your midsized truck today is the size of those full sized trucks back then

i promise almost 95% of tasks you do can be accomplished by one of those smaller trucks, with a smaller engine

you don't need two boats, you don't need two fat v8's

[silent oak]

Midsized I’m a auto tech so I need some space to take parts

[dire shard]

you'll probably fit anything short of a full length exhaust in the bed of any truck

unless you're out here trying to put a smart car in the bed, you'll be fine

[static gale]

And even then, an old Tacoma could probably haul that, too

[silent oak]

Because at work sometimes I need to pick up parts from local suppliers

Some parts bigger then others so I can barely haul shit in my challenger

[hybrid charm]

I never thought a rolls Royce could look bad

[dire shard]

this looks like a regular rolls royce

what have you been looking at

tan/black dual tone kinda hot ngl

[hybrid charm]

Personally just don’t like duel tone rolls royces

Dk what car

This is *

[dire shard]

most of them are dual tone

that's a c8

[hybrid charm]

Thanks

Thankfully I didn’t have to erase the plate for this one

[dire shard]

gonna go with APR front lip, skirt and spoiler

[hybrid charm]

What car you using for them?

[dire shard]

no, i mean that those parts on the c8 are from APR

[hybrid charm]

Ohhh

Yeah

[dire shard]

they're not oem aero kit

[kind osprey]

https://youtube.com/shorts/NMJMR-j2Eec?si=vBZUKlqdpMmMAws4

[opal forum]

I dont see much wrong with it tbh

Split colour RR's are common

[hybrid charm]

I personally just really don’t like em

[opal forum]

[kind osprey]

It's not the split that is offputting It's probably the colors themselves

Splits can look really good if the colors compliment each other

[opal forum]

Black and bronze seems like an ok combo to me

Or is it like dark blue

Either way, much better than the mcdonalds combo of red and yellow

[dire shard]

yeah that colour combo is bussin

no cap fr

[mental lion]

You can tell how good the colors compliment each other on this one

[static gale]

Y'know... I think it could have worked with the same colours, but in different places

[silent oak]

Looks like a gta 5 YouTubers car in game lol

[dire shard]

they really just

harlequin

but on a bentley

[silent oak]

Imagine doing harlequin paint on a fucking luxary car

[kind osprey]

I feel like they've done that by now

[silent oak]

It’s like putting a fuck ass paint scheme on a classic well maintained car

[night steeple]

the new Mercedes CLA has been announced, it looks great! very modern design

[fiery rover]

omg guys, this rolls royce the price are estimated 30 insane millions dollars

[jagged sentinel]

Better have 29 mil in the trunk

Or "boot" if you're from one of those other places

[jagged sentinel]

It looks like a goddamn Hyundai

Specifically one from the late 2010s

Actually that's probably because it is

[night steeple]

did you not notice it xd

[jagged sentinel]

Yeah on a second look I noticed the clearly-photoshopped bits

[night steeple]

thats an MG5

[jagged sentinel]

Close enough

[night steeple]

when I saw someone post the new CLA I immediately thought it looked suspiciously similar to the MG5 so I had to do this

[jagged sentinel]

Based

[night steeple]

here's the actual MG5

wait fuck I got it wrong

[jagged sentinel]

It looks more like a Merc than the other pic lol

[dire shard]

it's this one, and boy does it look stupid

[jagged sentinel]

Yeah I stand by my statement

[dire shard]

because that one is a merc

[jagged sentinel]

[dire shard]

also i don't see the similarities 🤔

[night steeple]

the lack of RGB lights puts me off buying it

[dire shard]

also boy does this merc also look worse than the mg

congratulations mercedes

it's time to fire your designers

[jagged sentinel]

German cars in general have been...missing the mark, it seems

[dire shard]

(thanks hyundai!)

[night steeple]

marketing towards streamers

[jagged sentinel]

Audi to a lesser extent, though they have always looked decent for their times for the most part

[jagged sentinel]

Expand

[night steeple]

rich kids essentially, giant screens and RGB lights, three pointed star everywhere

wait for doug demuro to count how many stars there are in the grille

[dire shard]

being understated has thankfully always been audi's thing and they seemed to know that, at least until they started putting enormous grilles on the rs6 and rs7

[jagged sentinel]

PeRfOrMaNcE cAr

[dire shard]

60% performance 40% grille

[jagged sentinel]

Yeah half the time 30% of the grille is just filled in lol

[dire shard]

aw yeah brother paint it black so it looks like there's no front bumper and it's all grille

it's like they saw the m performance g82 and went "our grille is bigger let's do that too"

[jagged sentinel]

Goofy ahh

[dawn drift]

Wearing a helmet, yes?

[obtuse urchin]

Im jealous... at the scenery

Looks lovely

[dire shard]

canader

[fiery rover]

its my personnal vehicle

[fiery rover]

United Kingdom ?

[silent oak]

I prefer motorcycles

Much more fun..

And the chance you get on the news for a second outweighs the disadvantage

[dire shard]

(the disadvantage and the reason you get on the news are the same: death)

[dire shard]

canada

[silent oak]

Cmon I drive a challenger you know we have death dishes

[dire shard]

with a car like the challenger, the difference is that you cause death to others

[silent oak]

That’s ford mustangs remember

Challengers just get a tree sized dent in their rear

[dire shard]

american cars, what's the difference?

[silent oak]

They have cool v8 noise

I do prefer a loud Harley tho

[dire shard]

high torque high power v8 for far too little money accessible to too many people who have too little skill 💪😎 the american dream

[silent oak]

Give a hood a viper and they will crash it into the nearby crack house

But give a hood a Prius and sir will be in a wrecker in the following week

[dire shard]

i thought the hood was gonna be a pun here

[astral ether]

Does anyone on PS5 have the Vapid Ratel? plz

[dire shard]

you're looking for #ps5｜vehicles-lfg

[silent oak]

I like my motorcycles heavy, like a street glide

[dire shard]

i like my motorcycles like i like myself, not light enough

[silent oak]

Already got a jacket

So might as well go for the full biker and buy a huge fucking harley or Indian

[dire shard]

is this going to come before or after the truck

[silent oak]

After

[dire shard]

hear me out, dirt bike in the back of the truck

[silent oak]

Or an Indian scout!

Light but street legal

[kind osprey]

The swept tail and boat tail look better tbh

[kind osprey]

Mercedes Genz?

[fiery rover]

the colors of the rolls royce and wheels is just as much

[kind osprey]

What?

[jagged sentinel]

Agreed

[kind osprey]

Yea that red one in the photo doesn't look bespoke in any way it just looks like a new regular lineup model

[dire shard]

if something costs 30 million, it better fly

oh wait, you can outright buy a private jet and have money left over to hire the pilot and running maintenance and fuel costs

[kind osprey]

If I'm paying $30,000,000 for a rolls royce... hell even $10,000,000. I would want the creation to be as unique as possible

Zero indication that this vehicle is similar to a regular model

I want people to go "wtf is that a concept car?"

[dire shard]

people already go "wtf is that a rolls royce" anyways, guess you have to pay this much to stand out from the common peasantry 😎

[kind osprey]

Peasants and their 3 year leased ghosts for $4955/month

My seat stitching matches the vein pattern of my reproduction appendage

How many zeros are in your bank account?

Bet it's only 6 or 7

[jagged sentinel]

Almost spit out my drink in class

Thanks for that

[fiery rover]

i see rolls royce are better bro, 30 millions dollars cars are precious

[jagged sentinel]

That... didn't really clear up all that much

[jagged sentinel]

What about that car is 30 million dollars

It doesn't really look bespoke or coachbuilt or whatever you want to call things like the boattail

[jagged sentinel]

I know what it looks like

[fiery rover]

precious car bro

[jagged sentinel]

Ok that's great

Is it bespoke

Or not

Is it a proper one of one or just an options-combination one-of-one

[fiery rover]

30.000.000 dollars its x3 Z-Type Truffade

[jagged sentinel]

🗿

[fiery rover]

its a unique model yes

1 exemplar

[fiery rover]

the definition car is " Lovely "

[jagged sentinel]

I'm sorry that was mean

I don't understand what you said, could you elaborate?

[fiery rover]

The car is defined as "Love", by its spectral pinkish red color, it is custom-made and in one copy

It has a 540 hp V12 engine

an aircraft engine among other things

[jagged sentinel]

I didn't know RR still made piston aircraft engines

If it's the V12 I think you're talking about there's no goddamn way an engine that large is fitting under a hood and engine compartment that small

[dire shard]

precious car bro

[onyx rivet]

30.000.000 dollars its x3 Z-Type Truffade

[kind osprey]

540 horsepower out of a v12 is actually shit, the car doesn't look bespoke it just looks like any new RR sedan tbh

The Swept tail and Boat tail are much better bespokes

[kind osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/stroke-brain-dead-die-dumb-gif-20796254

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inventorylisting/vdp.action?listingId=400925346&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity=d2193&sourceContext=google&cgfv=1.1&cgfr=4&cgfab=Q&ax8324=503&px8324=p2&dnetworktype=r&cgfdate=2025317&cgfloc=en&type=&kw=&matchtype=&ad=&placement=&device=m&devicemodel=&adposition=&cp=20489805974&adg=&fi=&tid=&lc=9004156&lm=&tgt=&aceid=&cgsp=sp293650&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwkN--BhDkARIsAD_mnIqne28RsR6n-AoVrDsht-eEJgqMkLOTA-Cl5BwbdT9KYn3vENv8bTEaAvahEALw_wcB&pid=mini_vdp_main_image#listing=400925346

$60,000 makes me genuinely think maybe it is worth the headache lol

Even for 2011 it blends in well

[dire shard]

what's the point of a four door rolls royce if you don't have a driver

you could make a case for the wraith and spectre, but i think i'd rather be in a bentley if i had to drive an rr

[silent oak]

A used rolls Royce? That’s gotta have a thousand problems. They aren’t driven by their actual owners

[dire shard]

could be worse

could be a used german car

they have a thousand problems and are driven by their owners

[silent oak]

Could be worse. A used VOLVO.. scrapped after the mechanic said no to a complex fix

As a mechanic I fucking despise Volvos

[dire shard]

my used volvo when it went through an accident decimating the front and got fixed

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/388830849623261195/1336946362637353002/1738822190849.gif

[silent oak]

I had bad experiences with Volvo

[dire shard]

if they're 2015 onwards i get it

volvo when they put a turbocharger, supercharger, and a hybrid system all together into one i4

[silent oak]

I used to fake a smoke break to get out of doing work on em

I really need to finish my motorcycle license stuff

Idk how hard or easy the skill test is.

[dire shard]

it's probably not that bad

but here the drivers are so bad i'd probably be killed within a week of riding so i think i won't bother

imagine being run over in the road test

[silent oak]

Eh after though

Loud motorcycle go brbrbrbrbr

[dire shard]

not my skill issue, others

[silent oak]

Plus i kinda am looking at a fucking heavy bike like a Harley street glide

Balanced due to the saddle bag things

[dire shard]

you will never be free of a couple hundred thousand people who can't drive for shit no matter how good you are

[silent oak]

Eh I know some and this comes from a challenger driver

We have some of the worst drivers probably.. maybe ultima comes closer

[dire shard]

if i were to motorcycle

i really like sport bikes

couldn't do a cruiser, i can't get over the ape hang

[silent oak]

I love the Harley’s or Indians

Absolute American legends

I already wear a motorcycle jacket a lot soo

[dire shard]

ninja 300s making me sweaty

i better stop looking at this stuff or i'll cut my life short on a highway being the victim of manslaughter when a beige 2008 corolla se merges into me

[silent oak]

Skill issue

[dire shard]

yeah 😔 the first skill issue was being anywhere around a silver or beige 2008 corolla se

second issue being around any toyota that isn't a supra or 86

definite death sentence

[silent oak]

As long as your not around civic drivers

[dire shard]

the new civic is so pretty i can't help but be around them

[silent oak]

I don’t like civics soo

[dire shard]

heresy everybody loves go-karts

i mean civics

[silent oak]

I love my boats (challengers)

[dire shard]

yeah boat lovers don't like go-karts

know someone else who's the same

[kind osprey]

The new fun civics are $31400

[dire shard]

💀

cooked

[silent oak]

My car was cheaper..

[dire shard]

your car was used

unfortunately a difference there

[silent oak]

My rt was 20k low mileage

[dire shard]

unfortunately not a fair comparison because the type r's between the fd2 and fk8 were dogshit, but a used fd2 is like 20k as well

now there's a legendary car
(in asia)
(only released in asia and europe)
(fuck)

[silent oak]

I like my American cars since in Japan I did hang out with some of the deployed soldiers

[dire shard]

unchecked capitalism innit

put 80k markup on a 400z again

gtr prices for a z

hate not being able to afford nice things

[silent oak]

You Yankees are good at making v8s sound good

[dire shard]

could be worse, my good friend who loves v8s will never own one unless he moves out of the philippines

[silent oak]

I love old v8s

My hemi is fun but not as much fun as a super charged v8

[dire shard]

cherish what you got
he, who makes decent money among others in his country for his level of education, makes in a year about what an american makes in a month

😔

[silent oak]

I’m not being seen in an eco box

That’s what i got a challenger

[night steeple]

saw a parked mclaren 750s last weekend, it was quite a sight, and surprisingly small

[kind osprey]

https://www.thedrive.com/news/a-v12-bmw-7-series-fuel-pump-is-now-worth-more-than-the-entire-car

[kind osprey]

Most supercars give off a larger than life appearance, until you actually see them and they are tiny lol

At the end of the day they are usually just 2 cramped seats and an engine

The Huracan looks really tiny in person compared to its rivals because it's the lowest of the bunch

It looks like a door wedge you kinda plop into

[mental lion]

The aventador is quiet large for what it is

[kind osprey]

Yea the more expensive flagship supercars and hypercars are a bit more normal sized

[kind osprey]

https://youtu.be/kJXj2OsBipQ?si=xbc0EfG9kB6q7XWm

[mental lion]

No problem! Here's the information about the Mercedes CLK GTR:

[jagged sentinel]

[silent oak]

Idk about the merc CLK.. I’m not a euro car nerd. Is it important to European automotive industry

[jagged sentinel]

Do you know what a homologation special is

[silent oak]

Nope I’m American car nerd

[jagged sentinel]

It's not exclusively a European thing, American racing has homologation rules too

[silent oak]

I follow more rally drag racing

[kind osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/no-no-wait-wait-gif-8174347161288218584

[jagged sentinel]

Rally and drag racing both involve homologation

Rally especially

If you like drag racing then surely you know what the Dodge Dart Super Stock is, yes?, or, for rally, the Ford RS200?

[kind osprey]

This car was the most expensive new car on the planet, and there are only 28 of them, 20ish of them are coupes, the rest are roadsters

It is a street legal race car

The race version was in gt1

Back in the 1990's

[jagged sentinel]

Both of these, in addition to many of the coolest cars ever made, are homologation specials

[silent oak]

I do lovely Cars!

I love me a Cossie

[kind osprey]

More than half of the coolest cars ever made directly exist due to homologation rules

[jagged sentinel]

Benz 190E Evo II, Mustang Boss 429, Dodge Charger Daytona/Plymouth Super Bird, Lancia Delta S4, all homologation specials

[kind osprey]

Including the most expensive cars on the planet

Like the 250gto

Paying $35,000 for a car in 1962 was unheard of

This was back was bmws and Mercedes were only in Germany

Lol

[jagged sentinel]

I love the Delta S4 so much, easy top 5 of all cars ever made for me

[kind osprey]

Nowadays every brand is almost everywhere

[silent oak]

35,000 now a days is the cost of a sedan lol

[kind osprey]

Yup

[silent oak]

Like if your paying “big” money like above 20k then go big or go home

[kind osprey]

That $35,000 car new was worth $5,000,000 by the late 1990's. And now it's worth $50,000,000+ depending on the racing heritage of the specific vehicle

[kind osprey]

The most expensive American cars didn't even really break over 10k

[jagged sentinel]

Right because every 250 GTO was effectively its own test bed because of how Ferrari...did things

[kind osprey]

Cadillacs were $6500

[silent oak]

Back when mc Donald’s was cheap

[kind osprey]

15c burgers

5c coke

[jagged sentinel]

And the country was having an economic boom at the time too so it was, in effect, even cheaper

[silent oak]

Sub 15 cent burger!!

[jagged sentinel]

The global political situation was also quite dicey then but evidently not everyone cared all that much

[silent oak]

Was it 70s? If I’m correct then yes

[jagged sentinel]

60s and 70s is what I'm talking about

[silent oak]

So nearly global nuclear war

[jagged sentinel]

Early 70s anyway

[silent oak]

Atleast the coolest cars were made in the 60s and 70s

[jagged sentinel]

The cold war was called that for a reason

Ironically it has all the benefits war/conflict has for the development of technology but not the downside of, well, war and conflict

[silent oak]

The most interesting development of the Cold War was the standardized ammo

[jagged sentinel]

I'd say it was the Blackbird but you do you

[silent oak]

Also.. classic rock

[jagged sentinel]

Eh

More a product of the shift in values of art and culture in the 60s that also led to the shift of values regarding taboos in music and cinema🤓

The 60s were a very interesting time for the west

[silent oak]

Meanwhile in the east (sad violin)

[jagged sentinel]

Lol

[silent oak]

The East unlocked its permanent status .. grey filter

[jagged sentinel]

And the arid regions of the US as well as Mexico permanently got the breaking bad filter

It just wasn't called that back then

[silent oak]

The 2000s kids would call it piss filter

[jagged sentinel]

Yeah, especially between 2007 and 2011

[silent oak]

What’s the modern day “piss filter” cell shaded games?

[jagged sentinel]

Photorealism as an art form

People are getting bored of it

[silent oak]

What next after photo realism are devs gonna go back to ps1 ahh graphics

[jagged sentinel]

Photorealism was a goal back then too

They just didn't have the technology for it

[silent oak]

Unreal engine made it over saturated

[jagged sentinel]

Now that we do people are getting bored of it and companies are experimenting with more creative effects or motifs

[silent oak]

Same with car companies now,

[jagged sentinel]

Nah the car industry is kinda stagnating tbh

[silent oak]

They are adding gimmicks to add “character”

like EVs with fucking engine noises

[jagged sentinel]

We're entering another era of dullness in cars in the US

The second golden age of the American sports car is over

[silent oak]

The 2000s was the boring dash era

Every car had the same plastic interior

[jagged sentinel]

I'd argue modern dashboards aren't much better

[silent oak]

I like analog gauges of the past

Idk something about seeing the needle go up and down

[jagged sentinel]

This is actually one of my favorite mustang interiors design wise

It's classy and elegant

It's just plagued with quality issues

[silent oak]

Looks like they took the book from a Supra with the half circular driver side

[jagged sentinel]

That was a 90s trope in general

[silent oak]

Wasn’t it common in all jdm cars?

To have that cockpit look

[jagged sentinel]

It was Japan's first automotive golden age, the late 80s and 90s

[urban lance]

what is this channel for

lol

[silent oak]

Anything car

[jagged sentinel]

Take a guess

[urban lance]

why is it suggested 😭

[jagged sentinel]

The driver-focused design motif is one I wish made it to the US sooner

And one that wasn't almost exclusive to the Corvette until the last 5 years

[silent oak]

Even the dodge challenger from the 80s was a re badged Mitsubishi

[urban lance]

it’s alright but it’s just too round for me honestly

like

[jagged sentinel]

Chrysler was in a rough patch in the 80s

[urban lance]

idk how to describe it but if you see it you see it

[jagged sentinel]

You'd be blind to not see the curves

[silent oak]

IT MADE 100hp

[jagged sentinel]

Shelby also dipped his hands in that shit flavored pie

[restive mural]

Anyone wanna play?

[jagged sentinel]

Yes, that Shelby

[silent oak]

But the price.. in 80s money was 6k

[jagged sentinel]

A Z28 Camaro started at 12

[silent oak]

Damn and it looked prettier

[jagged sentinel]

The base camaros started at around 9

So 6K wasn't crazy for a sports compact

[silent oak]

American auto industry was strange in the 80s

[jagged sentinel]

It was shit

Let's not beat around the bush

[silent oak]

Everyone was taking a dip in the coke train

[jagged sentinel]

The only good American sports cars to come out of the 80s were a Corvette (surprise surprise) and a Buick

[silent oak]

I love the gnx from the 80s

Holy shit utter beauty

[jagged sentinel]

The beauty of it was that it looked virtually identical to a standard regal

[silent oak]

Perfect sleeper car to impress your friends or your girl

[jagged sentinel]

They didn't sell very many of them

That's part of why they're so sought after now

They are exceptionally rare

[silent oak]

How many made?

Is it in low 1000s? Low hundreds

[jagged sentinel]

In 87 they made 547

I should clarify that number is the GNX specifically

They sold over 20k Grand Nationals in 87

[silent oak]

I love the grand nationals body lines

It’s such a classy car

[jagged sentinel]

The reason I love it is that it flew in the face of what everyone thought (arguably rightly) Buick was in the 80s, in addition to just how goddamn fast it was

[silent oak]

Back when they made popular cars!

Not as much now

[jagged sentinel]

The only car quicker in the quarter mile was Ferrari's flagship car