But wouldn’t dualies on the rear wheels be better?
#transportation
silent oak
jagged sentinel
But wouldn’t dualies on the rear wheels be better?
It would be cheaper
silent oak
And a solution for that you know WIDE ass tires
And easier to replace
But the real question is the door.
jagged sentinel
Tires that wide are beyond overkill for the power the V-Tech makes anyway
jagged sentinel
But the real question is the door.
Making a hinge system is one thing but making it powered and making it operate quickly, quietly and reliably is another
jagged sentinel
In game? 607 hp
About what you'd get in an R8 and that has tires half as wide as the V-Tech at best
silent oak
But the cyber truck passed
And it had lack of screens so you know he paid off the board
jagged sentinel
The cybertruck at least has airbags
There is no space on the dashboard of the V-Tech for airbags
There's so much visual noise and polygons
silent oak
Like how would a manufacturer do THIS
There would need to be an experiment car label just for that
dire shard
tach on the ceiling? death 💀
jagged sentinel
tach on the ceiling? death 💀
Yeah that certainly is a choice
I'd also like to point out the obvious lack of side or rear view mirrors
jagged sentinel
Yeah it has cameras/sensors but those are as of now still illegal in the US
dire shard
aren't those things on the sides mirrors
jagged sentinel
Wait, yeah they are
dire shard
got that going for it
silent oak
The Porsche in game has 1 mirror on driver side
jagged sentinel
Everything else has what I presume to be sensors
jagged sentinel
The Porsche in game has 1 mirror on driver side
I'm not counting that though because that's a real car
silent oak
But Johnny probably lost it in a dui
dire shard
is there a rear window in this car, a rear view mirror might not even be useful
jagged sentinel
He lost it because he got hit with the funny digitizer machine
dire shard
that's huge
silent oak
Go the Ferrari route
jagged sentinel
that's huge
The spoiler is very conveniently in the way
silent oak
Have the smallest rear window and say fuck you to the person in the back
jagged sentinel
Not to mention the buttresses
dire shard
supercar pass
jagged sentinel
True
silent oak
The Ferrari testarossa had a small ass rear view
dire shard
the polestar 4 doesn't have a rear window and it's a crossover so whatever, we ball
jagged sentinel
I don't know if any of the type 66s have rear windows
silent oak
We had Cars in American history with less view than any other
Hell the crystal dome tech irl is impossible rn
And highly illegal because cops can’t look in your car
jagged sentinel
Hell the crystal dome tech irl is impossible rn
If it was it would still be illegal as shit
silent oak
If it was it would still be illegal as shit
People can’t see your face speeding
jagged sentinel
There's an obvious safety hazard if the system fails
jagged sentinel
People can’t see your face speeding
I think it has more to do with the safety of the occupants
silent oak
Since the projector is on the outside..
jagged sentinel
When the system is deactivated, it is completely opaque
silent oak
I’d love to see some engineer in the car world try to make that tech work
jagged sentinel
And if the system fails on the move... You become a giant projectile
dire shard
you were always a giant projectile 😎
silent oak
you were always a giant projectile 😎
Tell that to the civic owners
They will blow steam just thinking that they are a menace to society
jagged sentinel
It would probably weigh a crazy amount as well
dire shard
they're just small projectiles(except the new one, that's a full-size projectile)
jagged sentinel
Considering the crystal dome system is as much armor as it is style
silent oak
Smaller projectiles with a lot of plastic
So the crashies are getting plastic in the face
silent oak
Considering the crystal dome system is as much armor as it is style
Probably was a military project in militechs engineering department
Then was popularized by vets who became engineers
Since the basilisk uses it
jagged sentinel
Probably was a military project in militechs engineering department
Rayfield and Militech have their own versions of it
silent oak
And the nomads use the militech version I presume
jagged sentinel
And the nomads use the militech version I presume
Indeed
silent oak
Or just steal them off the junk yard rayfields lol
jagged sentinel
Rayfield's system is of course proprietary and built into the vehicles as opposed to being something that can be modified
jagged sentinel
Or just steal them off the junk yard rayfields lol
Nah, they use militech
silent oak
Nah, they use militech
I love the nomad looking interiors too
jagged sentinel
You can see militech branding on the "windows" of nomad vehicles with the CD system installed
silent oak
The mix of digital dash dials and gauges with all the computers
jagged sentinel
Rayfield's system is woven into the bodywork of the car; iirc most of the external bodywork of the caliburn and aerondight are crystaldome panels
silent oak
I feel redneck scientists could take inspiration from from cp77
Like with nomad inspired kit
jagged sentinel
Rayfield's system is woven into the bodywork of the car; iirc most of the extern...
It's also all armored because of course it is
I'd imagine the Excalibur is even more beefed up
silent oak
The Bugatti of the night city world
silent oak
I wished more militech cars used the crystal dome
jagged sentinel
I wished more militech cars used the crystal dome
I believe Militech's system was designed to be more modular
silent oak
Like seeing a militech suv with armored windows
So you couldn’t shoot out the driver without a clear visual
jagged sentinel
I wished more militech cars used the crystal dome
I mean the Manticore heavily uses it
Though that's not a car
silent oak
I mean the Manticore heavily uses it
What other cyber punk car features are plausible Irl
The crazy wacky door opening
Maybe the 80s digital displays?
jagged sentinel
Self-driving obv
Absolutely fucking everything has it if the delivery service thing is to be believed
jagged sentinel
Ai taxi drivers who speak to the passenger
Who may or may not be rogue AIs from beyond the blackwall
(netwatch doesn't need to know about that tho)
silent oak
Who may or may not be rogue AIs from beyond the blackwall
Imagine the black wall ai that infests the drone takes control
Driving you straight into the ocean
Where you die of idk toxic water
jagged sentinel
I mean Delamain pretty much says himself that he is a rogue AI
silent oak
For a company like net watch to not see that delamain isn’t ai is sorta dumb
Or just corpo money movin
jagged sentinel
Delamain is AI though
jagged sentinel
I mean as far as rogue AIs go he's remarkably benign
But I get your point though
silent oak
He probably is like a mutually assured destruction bot. Knows humans will destroy his car if he gets too fiesty
jagged sentinel
If an AI like the one in Erebus/Canto MK6 got control of a cab they would do some serious damage
jagged sentinel
He probably is like a mutually assured destruction bot. Knows humans will destro...
He knows if he gets too uppity the netwatch will fuck his shit up
silent oak
The fact we let somi into the hands of blue eyes is another fucking problem too
jagged sentinel
He said he's already concerned that his status is being questioned by the netwatch
jagged sentinel
The fact we let somi into the hands of blue eyes is another fucking problem too
I betrayed somi to get a gun that talks to me and I don't know if it was worth it
static gale
damn, i missed the majority
silent oak
Given how net watch hasnt caught onto the so mi situation
Like a shootout between some 6 street gangsters and some max tac police unit guarding a black wall monster
jagged sentinel
Given how net watch hasnt caught onto the so mi situation
The only reason netwatch didn't catch her was because reed covered her ass on the condition she went with him to the FIA because she goofed up in one of her early gigs
I did that ending this weekend so I'm still fresh on this stuff
static gale
If an AI like the one in Erebus/Canto MK6 got control of a cab they would do som...
(i know this isn't #other-games but) I got softlocked on the mission where you can pick up Erebus, so when I restarted it and ran through the area as fast as I could, I forgot to pick it back up
silent oak
Ha unlucky
jagged sentinel
(i know this isn't <#726985823106367550> but) I got softlocked on the mission wh...
That mission was terrifying and awesome
static gale
i made Canto anyway, so it all worked out
jagged sentinel
Being totally helpless against a giant rogue-ai spider bot was a fun sequence
silent oak
If project orion has the same missions.. I want a horrer atmosphere
Like the whole police state thing
jagged sentinel
(i know this isn't <#726985823106367550> but) I got softlocked on the mission wh...
I didn't get the chance for them my first run
silent oak
But anyways back on cars. Have you fine gents seen the absolute icon that is the Nissan juke?
The car that Jeremy LOVES
jagged sentinel
But anyways back on cars. Have you fine gents seen the absolute icon that is the...
next topic please
I was having a good day before you mentioned the juke
silent oak
I hate that car soo same
jagged sentinel
static gale
next topic please<a:beer:1123800876822315018>
Sure! what a beaut!
silent oak
It ruins my mood to know that people like it because it has character
jagged sentinel
Sure! what a beaut!
silent oak
NO IT DOESNT it looks like an inbred Pontiac vibe
static gale
I was hooked on the Aztek when I found out about this
jagged sentinel
Sure! what a beaut!
What a blight to humanity that thing was
silent oak
Maybe lease it
jagged sentinel
The cybertruck looks less detailed than the cars that only render in when you're very far from the road in cyberpunk lmfao
silent oak
How did it pass safety..
jagged sentinel
Great fucking question
silent oak
The Delorean didn’t work out because polished steel doesn’t make it safe
jagged sentinel
I genuinely can't believe it would have
jagged sentinel
The Delorean didn’t work out because polished steel doesn’t make it safe
The DeLorean had its own long list of problems
silent oak
dire shard
I was hooked on the Aztek when I found out about this
but you can do this with any other suv
jagged sentinel
Safety was still largely an afterthought in the early 80s anyway
static gale
but you can do this with any other suv
i unironically like the Aztek, idk what it is. But I hate cars like the Juke and PT Cruiser
silent oak
It’s ugly
dire shard
it's a cute ugly, like a stupid pug
static gale
i don't like the shoe shape. just like the Chevy HHR
silent oak
it's a cute ugly, like a stupid pug
A pug as a comparison ? Smart
static gale
that grille gives me nightmares
jagged sentinel
Safety was still largely an afterthought in the early 80s anyway
This dashboard certainly doesn't look like it was designed with safety in mind to me
silent oak
even Porsche does it more tastefully
static gale
This dashboard certainly doesn't look like it was designed with safety in mind t...
they call that the brain shelf
jagged sentinel
they call that the brain shelf
Alternatively, the Guillotine dash
silent oak
Atleast it covers up the blood when you get into a car crash
So your car is better on the news cam
dire shard
don't forget my boy the race car at home
jagged sentinel
don't forget my boy the race car at home
silent oak
don't forget my boy the race car at home
Angy cruiser
jagged sentinel
don't forget my boy the race car at home
That PT cruiser build is kinda based tho
dire shard
which one
dire shard
you gotta be more specific
static gale
🚙 _ _
silent oak
There’s more.. peel p50s?
dire shard
no there's more shitty british cars
silent oak
Oh any British car?
static gale
this guy gets it
silent oak
They are in the same tier as French cars
jagged sentinel
Peel is actually based on the Isle of Man
static gale
where's the Isle of Men
dire shard
😎
silent oak
British share one thing with french which is horrible car design
jagged sentinel
where's the Isle of M**e**n
The ocean somewhere
dire shard
the ocean of men
static gale
real
jagged sentinel
I know that the Isle of Man is a British territory
jagged sentinel
oh the trident
Yuh
silent oak
The Austin allegro is the fucking worst
jagged sentinel
I'm curious why the P50 and trident exist at all
silent oak
Hydrogas suspension.
dire shard
goodness me someone put a jet engine in a trident
static gale
where are people getting all these turbines. The small ones, i get, but the ones they're putting to actually propel cars?! where are they coming from?
jagged sentinel
Hydrogas suspension.
Good idea, poor execution
jagged sentinel
where are people getting all these turbines. The small ones, i get, but the ones...
Probably old jet aircraft
static gale
Good idea, poor execution
is that the type that gets hot and becomes shite?
dire shard
probably scrap parts off boeings manufactured
jagged sentinel
Or some niche old market for jet engines I'm not aware of
silent oak
is that the type that gets hot and becomes shite?
gradual loss of ride height over time due to the slow diffusion of gas from the rubber bag within the suspension unit
static gale
mmm
silent oak
There’s a reason why cars don’t use it
jagged sentinel
gradual loss of ride height over time due to the slow diffusion of gas from the ...
In addition to the typical high maintenance time and costs of these experimental systems
silent oak
But can’t be as bad as French cars none aligned suspension
jagged sentinel
Simply getting better at making conventional suspension systems solved the problems that hydrogas was designed to solve
silent oak
French cars just suck irl
jagged sentinel
Not to mention electronically controlled stuff
silent oak
Cool concepts but never good in a production atmosphere
jagged sentinel
French cars just suck irl
Thankfully we didn't get that crap in the US
jagged sentinel
It was either Citroen or Peugeot who tried to gain a foothold here but never did
I think it was Peugeot
silent oak
And now is a part of Stellantis
jagged sentinel
And now is a part of Stellantis
The reaction is actually fitting lol
silent oak
Which drives down the value by 50%
jagged sentinel
Which drives down the value by 50%
Not a huge loss for them lol
silent oak
Not a huge loss for them lol
French love losing lol
jagged sentinel
Went from a buck-50 to 75 cents, not a huge drop /s
jagged sentinel
not having that crap means that we also don't get that shiny new a110 here thoug...
This is true
dire shard
the one good french car
jagged sentinel
I don't think Americans know what Alpine is
jagged sentinel
the one good french car
I mean there's that other company
jagged sentinel
Bugatti, but they're basically just German now anyway
dire shard
always has been 
static gale
I don't think Americans know what Alpine is
I first found out about them from Dirt Rally, but I didn't acknowledge it as a company until I started watching F1
jagged sentinel
always has been <:KEKW:730356155074871407>
Yeah, whether they are French or German is way more complicated than most understand if you know the history of the land the company was built on
silent oak
They should sell the peugot 3008 maxi as a rally car and it would be popular if it wasn’t a French car
And if it was made by Jeep
jagged sentinel
Yeah, whether they are French or German is way more complicated than most unders...
TL;DR the original factory was built on then-french land before said land was annexed into Germany and then returned to France at some point, it's weird
I can never remember who had it first
dire shard
basically has never been french
jagged sentinel
The man who founded the original company was Italian, which complicated things even more
dire shard
bugatti is an italian name, the guy is italian, the land the cars were built in was in germany like 90% of the time
jagged sentinel
Though by that logic Pagani would be an Argentinian company
dire shard
the only french is the name of the paint they use and the funny little flag they put om the car occasionally 😎
silent oak
Love how all euro car brands become part of Germany lol
static gale
das auto
dire shard
they all got swallowed up by the vag, what an unfortunate acronym
jagged sentinel
Because Germany knows how to build stuff and do it efficiently, for better and for worse
silent oak
but Germans make their future projects so over complicated
jagged sentinel
Germans are very good at growing their money, as it were
jagged sentinel
but Germans make their future projects so over complicated
When it works it's very good
silent oak
When it works it's very good
That’s a strong “ when “
jagged sentinel
Unfortunately, these pesky humans often have a habit of letting things fall out of perfect working order
Which is really the only time German engineering works as designed lol
silent oak
My boss used to work on euro cars he hates Volvo
jagged sentinel
I don't mind Volvo
silent oak
Over spend on safety but compromise on other key issues of cars
jagged sentinel
I do think I'd ever own one but they've contributed significantly to automotive safety and continue to dominate in that sector
silent oak
They are impossible to repair however
jagged sentinel
Saab cars were cool but only because Saab is the only company I know of who could flex about making fighter jets in their car commercials
silent oak
If there damaged just total it
jagged sentinel
Say what you want about Saab but their advertising was always S-tier
jagged sentinel
Japan as a country is...shall we say hesitant to directly admit to what they did back then
silent oak
And Nissan too
jagged sentinel
Especially what they did to China and Korea but that's not a discussion for this channel
jagged sentinel
VW as we know it now didn't really participate in WWII
Just hear me out
When the war in Europe ended, VW was nothing but a single bombed out factory
silent oak
Just were a huge buisness that thrived under Mr German man
jagged sentinel
It was a British officer who looked at it and said, "hey, we can probably make something out of all this"
And the VW we know and tolerate eventually came of that
silent oak
VW has odd marketing
static gale
know and tolerate 😭
jagged sentinel
VW is the General Motors of Germany
silent oak
How bout Porsche?
jagged sentinel
VW is the General Motors of Germany
Or Chrysler of America, take your pick
static gale
could porsche to VW be considered like what Lexus is to Toyota at this point, or?
jagged sentinel
How bout Porsche?
I'm less privvy to their history as a company relating to the war if that's what you're asking about
silent oak
Porsche made tanks
jagged sentinel
could porsche to VW be considered like what Lexus is to Toyota at this point, or...
Porsche's status when compared to its parent company is a little weird as I understand it
silent oak
And their first car was destroyed by US forces in ww2
static gale
Porsche's status when compared to its parent company is a little weird as I unde...
where is Audi sitting in that pile?
silent oak
where is Audi sitting in that pile?
At the bottom waiting for papa Porsche to let them off the gas
jagged sentinel
where is Audi sitting in that pile?
I believe a rung below them in the food chain
static gale
mmm
jagged sentinel
Porsche's status when compared to its parent company is a little weird as I unde...
They have some manufacturing backing from VW but I believe they still do largely do their own thing
Porsche has always done well enough that VW doesn't really need to worry about them anyway
silent oak
Talk about euro cars.. how Russian cars stayed shit boxes
The lada still runs
Despite being Cold War relics
static gale
i just watched a video on russian cars the other day
jagged sentinel
i just watched a video on russian cars the other day
I don't know the first thing about the domestic car industry in Russia
silent oak
That will make hipsters go mad
jagged sentinel
From what I understand, most cars on Russian roads are imports
silent oak
And rare for that matter
static gale
(yes, it does mention cars outside of russia)
jagged sentinel
I feel like as an American I have a bit of a tainted view of pickup trucks compared to the rest of the world
silent oak
Which were part of the greater Soviet Union which ment Russia cars basically
static gale
Which were part of the greater Soviet Union which ment Russia cars basically
just didn't want the random "uhm ackshually 
" coming later, lol
silent oak
just didn't want the random "uhm ackshually <a:Nerd:1001457795469680680> " comin...
Looking at car brands out of Russia.. and most aren’t around no more
jagged sentinel
https://youtu.be/AnpE75HpCJ4
I watched a video about this a few years ago
I think it was from donut media
Before Donut went to shit
silent oak
Avto Vaz and Lada .. Gaz Azlk
static gale
yeah, i haven't watched donut the way I used to sinnnnce, the HiLow with the Z
silent oak
Like seriously when have I heard of GAZ
static gale
so a few years now
jagged sentinel
The only Russian vehicles I like are the giant fuck-off mega trucks that they used to tow ICBMs and shit
The 6×6 and 8×8 monsters
silent oak
But I have a sneaking suspicion that Gaz is a Russian military car dealer
static gale
i watched the Subie and Pickup truck HiLows, and a few others here and there, but I just want my favourite serie back. OG Money Pit and Science Garage!
jagged sentinel
i watched the Subie and Pickup truck HiLows, and a few others here and there, bu...
Half of the people who participated in those are gone
static gale
b a r t
silent oak
Gaz tigr
jagged sentinel
The only one from the OG crew still around is Nolan I believe
silent oak
Like how can you not tell me it’s a civilian brand lol
static gale
did james leave?
jagged sentinel
And even he doesn't seem to happy with how it's going
jagged sentinel
did james leave?
Yes, started his own channel
static gale
i forget their names somehow, but Zack(? money pit) and Jeremy(? catfish camaro) leaving, but that was all
jagged sentinel
Jeremiah and Zach started a channel Called Bigtime and pretty much only do the good sort of content donut made
static gale
jeremiah!
jagged sentinel
Jeremiah and Zach started a channel Called Bigtime and pretty much only do the g...
Car builds and stuff, it's good content
silent oak
Hanmond..
static gale
i always just called him jerry in my head, lol
silent oak
HANMOND
silent oak
TONIGHT ON BOTTOM GEAR
jagged sentinel
TONIGHT ON BOTTOM GEAR
Elite reference
silent oak
Wait no!! It’s MEDIUM GEAR
MEDIUM GEAR is where hamnmod drives a truck into a brick house
And Jerrymiah does arson
dire shard
i just watched a video on russian cars the other day
remember what could have been 😢
cobalt cobalt
tepid fog
swift olive
Car.. 
Which saves a man life!
And might kill him as well
3.2 million for this
Dooood
worthy hornet
anyone here
kind osprey
3.2 million for this
These were in the mid to high 2's for a while so 3.2 today isn't terrible
Rarity is a profound feature in the price of any car
swift olive
the value of the car comes from the carcollaboration between Mercedes and Maclean and there are (around) 2100 car produced.
And people don't drive it that much, they are just collectors
This one is 1 of 18 in the world
Full carbon fiber!
kind osprey
the value of the car comes from the carcollaboration between Mercedes and Maclea...
No not the regular slr, the Sterling Moss one you posted
The regular slr has barely gone up in value innthe last decade
swift olive
No not the regular slr, the Sterling Moss one you posted
Damn, I wasn't really paying attention to that
swift olive
The regular slr has barely gone up in value innthe last decade
But it's really priced over 3 million
kind osprey
Yea the Stirling Moss was never a real production car it was just kinda floated around to extremely prominent (rich) loyal buyers
Either that or they become museum pieces
There is probably a higher chance to see a clk-gtr on the road than a sterling moss slr, they are just stupidly rare
Another car with no windshield that is pretty cool is the Mclaren Elva
swift olive
That's insane!
swift olive
Yea the Stirling Moss was never a real production car it was just kinda floated ...
*** The SLR Stirling Moss began production in June 2009, after the SLR Roadster was discontinued in May 2009. All 75 cars planned to be produced were completed by December 2009. The SLR Stirling Moss was available only to the existing SLR owners and each car cost in excess of US$1 million***
🤯
dull folio
remember what could have been 😢
I still remember Marussia from NFS World 🥲
mental lion
These were in the mid to high 2's for a while so 3.2 today isn't terrible
Fym it isn’t terrible
I remember when the veyron was the only million dollar car
kind osprey
I remember when the veyron was the only million dollar car
I remember yesterday too
I went to work, came home, ate a pizza, and went to bed
mental lion
I went to work, came home, ate a pizza, and went to bed
Sounds like a good day
kind osprey
Sounds like a good day
I only work like 1-2 days a week now but the eating pizza part I do everyday of course
mental lion
I only work like 1-2 days a week now but the eating pizza part I do everyday of ...
Damn thats nice
swift olive
I went to work, came home, ate a pizza, and went to bed
Damn, stay strong 💪
That reminds me of a song "Everyday Normal Guy 2"
Idk how or why, but I got a flashback
swift olive
obtuse urchin
My damn neck
swift olive
My damn neck
Lmao use the phone!
jagged sentinel
Why do you always post them this way
naive thorn
Why do you always post them this way
opal forum
3.2 million for this
Thats the kanye's ride
mental lion
“Rotate your phone for better experience”
jagged sentinel
<a:VeryBased:854942671700885544>
broken pelican
Some of the nicer cars I have seen over the years
opal breach
Some of the nicer cars I have seen over the years
best one is that old pickup behind the senna
broken pelican
best one is that old pickup behind the senna
Literally the one car that I didn’t try to get a photo of 🤣, what about the poor Vall?
Valk*
broken pelican
i like old truck more
Fair
static gale
best one is that old pickup behind the senna
Right? Like, if I saw the drivers of each, I'd be more likely to talk to the truck's driver/owner.
And they'd be more likely to talk to me back! 😂
jagged sentinel
best one is that old pickup behind the senna
That would have stolen the show for me
opal breach
Old American cars >>>>>> exotic supercars
hybrid charm
MY DREAM CAR!!!!
jagged sentinel
Old American cars >>>>>> exotic supercars
You just know the story of that truck and it's owner is more interesting than any of the supercars present lol
He definitely likes it more than any of the supercar owners like theirs
mental lion
Some of the nicer cars I have seen over the years
You probably dont know it but that aston in the background is worth a couple millions
Cant tell if its the victor or another special one but if its the victor its worth $5m
broken pelican
You probably dont know it but that aston in the background is worth a couple mil...
The Valour? Yeah about 1.2m that one
I would take the 3m Valk anyday though, especially in that color
mental lion
I would take the 3m Valk anyday though, especially in that color
Ofcourse
opal breach
Old American cars >>>>>> exotic supercars
the guy who reacted to this with a thumbs down is a nerd
kind osprey
Cant tell if its the victor or another special one but if its the victor its wor...
That's a Valour
Very similar, just basically different production numbers
kind osprey
I would take the 3m Valk anyday though, especially in that color
Valour is around $2mish and the Valkyrie is out the door about $4mish
broken pelican
Valour is around $2mish and the Valkyrie is out the door about $4mish
Apologies, I am European so in € 🙂
We would also have lower prices due to proximity and other factors
mental lion
That's a Valour
Yea they’re very similar
placid mauve
2 cool cars I’ve seen i guess
kind osprey
Apologies, I am European so in € 🙂
Oh right currencies and all thay jazz mb
night steeple
so acura pulled an eclipse on us
i guess the integra is their rsx and the rsx name now belongs to another crossover
sage roost
guess which iconic car nameplate turned into an electric SUV...
The Acura RSX
wait I didn't read the message right above me
my bad lmaoooo
broken pelican
2 cool cars I’ve seen i guess
Veneno 🥰
opal forum
2 cool cars I’ve seen i guess
Tf is that second one?
obtuse urchin
Tf is that second one?
Veneno
sage roost
static gale
More tips than 2x cylinders
mental lion
3 tips per cylinder
tepid fog
the hell
static gale
That is not a veneno
old sedge
Oh my... 😳
I just saw this and I'm in love
https://www.motor1.com/news/360102/dodge-challenger-suv-rendered/
jagged sentinel
I just saw this and I'm in love
https://www.motor1.com/news/360102/dodge-challen...
Both of these are beyond awful
The Chevy one just looks like a blazer front superimposed onto a Urus body
jagged sentinel
<a:stfugoofyahh:1156862791823671317>
naive thorn
old sedge
I just saw this and I'm in love
https://www.motor1.com/news/360102/dodge-challen...
Ford has Mustang mach-E, so why not both of these?
jagged sentinel
The Mach E isn't a mustang
I don't care what Ford calls it
It is not a mustang
jagged sentinel
<a:chipsman:911391927197380649>
sage roost
I just saw this and I'm in love
https://www.motor1.com/news/360102/dodge-challen...
Least obvious "Corvette E-SUV advocate" ragebait
broken pelican
https://www.hotrod.com/news/chevrolet-camaro-e-28-renderings/
Urus
swift olive
naive thorn
Me what 
kind osprey
Beautiful
dry sage
"Ye, I drive an Evo."
The Evo in question:
swift olive
Me what <:Suspicious:859455891056492546>
ignore the plate
craggy drum
cleanest shifting i've ever seen
swift olive
cleanest shifting i've ever seen
Omg that's so annoying to see even to a dead car
thorn skiff
lowball yes or no
naive thorn
Nice
swift olive
chrome rune
I need gtav account steam or epic i need to play online
naive thorn
static gale
What you need is to get yo money up and just buy the game 🥶🔥💰
swift olive
noble turret
scrolled a bit too far OOPS
median surge
They should add a train service vehicle that your can drive and have upgrades like a big turrent that you friend can use while you drive the train and there should be missions/heist that you can access through a part on the train
dire shard
👍
tepid fog
"So much torque it twisted the chassis coming off the line"
loud spade
@tepid fog You do your own oil changes right?
tepid fog
everything.
loud spade
Where do you dispose of the old oil safely
tepid fog
except paint job for now
tepid fog
thats really good
loud spade
I have a CVT maxi scooter though so I need an impact gun if I want to do cvt work
It's gonna be about 150 bucks
loud spade
mhm
it's a good investment but I'm gonna endure doing everything by hand for now
I found a set with a half-inch ratchet and sockets from 8 to 24mm with no skips
It's a chinese brand but can't beat 30 bucks
tepid fog
it's a good investment but I'm gonna endure doing everything by hand for now
i support youuuu
tepid fog
I found a set with a half-inch ratchet and sockets from 8 to 24mm with no skips
that's really really good
loud spade
Yeah
I just noticed it has hex and torx sockets
I’ll probably just grab the $30 one and get a medium extension and that joint thing, could come in handy sometimes
tepid fog
bettt
swift olive
tawny moon
Thats asseto corsa with some effect an rtx
swift olive
Thats asseto corsa with some effect an rtx
Yes
night steeple
doug demuro discovers broken hood latch on the new bentley
me: you can probably buy that for a dollar off ebay if you search "volkswagen polo hood release"
vestal garnet
I had gone to Auto Expo last week on Saturday
Will be posting pics here soon
Also got a chance to drive Porsche Macan at their test track
vestal garnet
Starting with BYD Hall
BMW Hall
M5
M2
M4
X1
i7
Looks lot better irl than in pics
Has very good road presence
5 Series
Porsche Hall
Taycan
Macan
GT3RS
Panamera GTS
911 Carrera
Mercedes Hall
SL55 AMG
Looks great in red ngl
Maybach
CLA Concept
naive thorn
vestal garnet
<a:PandaPopcornWatch:1315029664208523305>
naive thorn
You enjoying the tour?
naive thorn
EV G Wagon
vestal garnet
You enjoying the tour?
yeah already went there on saturday
just posting the pics here now
Skoda Hall
vestal garnet
New Kodiaq
looks like bmw grille xD
Elroq
Vision 75 Concept
Superb
Octavia RS
Weird color
too flashy
Hyundai/Kia Hall
Creta EV
Ioniq 9
Carnival Limo
Toyota/Lexus Hall
RX500h
ES300h
huge grille
naive thorn
No supra? 
vestal garnet
Nope
naive thorn
Still not revealed huh
vestal garnet
BE6
swift olive
it's so sad to see such great cars, getting ruined like this
vestal garnet
looks better in red
swift olive
Even the 7 series looks bad, imo
swift olive
Most of these designs are based or looking as EVs
vestal garnet
Most of these designs are based or looking as EVs
true
swift olive
Anyway thank you bro for sharing these
mental lion
What’s going on here
mental lion
Can barely name sole of those
swift olive
Midget
Such a remarkable car, I bet that most of these new cars won't get the fame of the classic cars, ever!
mental lion
Octavia RS
This is a clean looking car
vestal garnet
This is a clean looking car
true,scroll above for bmw and porsche pics
MG Cyberster
vestal garnet
Such a remarkable car, I bet that most of these new cars won't get the fame of t...
yea classic cars have their own charm
vestal garnet
Starting with BYD Hall
these are all the pics which i took
after that i went to porsche test track
to drive Macan
vestal garnet
vestal garnet
Will be posting vid of me driving the Porsche Macan
mental lion
The electric one?
mental lion
Nice
vestal garnet
orange one in the pic
2nd vid is of my friend driving it
He was really pushing the car to its limit
1st vid is of me driving it,my friend couldnt record longer vid since he had to get in the waiting line for test drive
There was also a 911 Carrera but it had 3hr+ long queue💀
vestal garnet
He was really pushing the car to its limit<:kek:585617800257863727>
I could smell the tires burning
swift olive
naive thorn
vestal garnet
<:nowayongor:1160653240896065776>
Was really fun to drive Macan
Probably the best thing in Auto expo apart from taking pics
naive thorn
night steeple
going to a local classic car meet this sunday, I hope to see some american stuff, they're rare as fuck here
sage roost
If there's any sound I can recognize from anywhere, it's definitely the Toyota 4.0 startup sound
static gale
If there's any sound I can recognize from anywhere, it's definitely the Toyota 4...
For me, it's the mid00s SUV V8 startup and late 90s sedans (Camry)
My old neighbor had this Lexus, and I always knew when they were going somewhere because the startup sounded the same as our 05 Sequoia
kind osprey
CLA Concept
This shit looks like an starving Feral slime from Slime Rancher
steady hinge
Best sound ive heard goes to my neighbours toyota chaser
Bro had a massive exhaust
And i think he swapped the engine
kind osprey
Best sound I've ever got to hear myself was probably just a regular Lamborghini or Ferrari v12 and Ferraris 458 v8's
Best sounding car I've driven though is hands down the gt3 rs solely because of the violent downshifts
mental lion
Best sounding car I've driven though is hands down the gt3 rs solely because of ...
How does it feel driving a gt3rs?
kind osprey
How does it feel driving a gt3rs?
You hear everything (LOUD), you feel everything, and it handles better at lower speeds than any supercar around or evem double that price it just grips and grips
Not an ideal road car, that job is better suited for a Huracan
Or an r8 same same
mental lion
You hear everything (LOUD), you feel everything, and it handles better at lower ...
Yea must’ve felt great
Like unearthly great
Which model did you drive?
kind osprey
The downshifts then soon after hearing almost 9,000rpm out of of an n/a flat 6 was the biggest smile I think I've had in a while
There weren't long enough straights to really send it though I got it up to about 140mph then had to slow for a corner
kind osprey
Which model did you drive?
Weissach. I believe it was a 2019
mental lion
There weren't long enough straights to really send it though I got it up to abou...
140 in a gt3 ra is not bad
Not bad at all
Got to experience most of its speed
kind osprey
Got to experience most of its speed
It can go much faster than that, so hopefully one day I can max it out
dire shard
My old neighbor had this Lexus, and I always knew when they were going somewhere...
some might even say, it was! 😎
static gale
lol, honestly tho
static gale
It's the starter and the insanely loud fan
yeah, the "whoosh" from the fan is so iconic to me
mental lion
It can go much faster than that, so hopefully one day I can max it out
Yeah but doing that in a car that is supposedly isn’t yours is pretty decent as most people and dealers dont like people speeding in the test drives
kind osprey
Yeah but doing that in a car that is supposedly isn’t yours is pretty decent as ...
It was on a track, so it wasn't speeding
dire shard
i'm so unlucky i had to see two cybertrucks on the street today 😭 😭 😭
mental lion
It was on a track, so it wasn't speeding
Oh
mental lion
i'm so unlucky i had to see two cybertrucks on the street today 😭 😭 😭
You’ll get over it
rich anvil
rich anvil
i'm so unlucky i had to see two cybertrucks on the street today 😭 😭 😭
in Canada (Saskatchewan) the cybertrucks do not work at all when the temperatures drop below -20C and we get -20C for the majority of the year.. they’d be better off getting a fckn convertible
kind osprey
Big ahh bus
rich anvil
Big ahh bus
Never been in one.. mainly bc the Canadian airlines are cheap asf and only buy all the second-hand, propellor planes that are shit. And they wonder why nobody likes them anymore
“One of the most expensive turboprops” yeah well it’s still a fucking prop 😂😭
kind osprey
Lol
vestal garnet
This shit looks like an starving Feral slime from Slime Rancher
💀
silent oak
What’s one classic / modern race car you would love to own and drive
night steeple
race car as in full on race car? man idk, so many to pick from
road legal probably some pagani
silent oak
race car as in full on race car? man idk, so many to pick from
I want a 1963 corvette grand sport. I love old corvettes
Mine is technically an antique so I can skirt some legal laws on it
gloomy helm
kind osprey
What’s one classic / modern race car you would love to own and drive
Pagani Zonda or a Mclaren F1 would be my top tiers but there are a lot of random ones I'd love to drive
I wish I could become a car reviewer so I could drive the cars around without having to deal with owning them
swift olive
Idk again maybe fat finger 😅
naive thorn
silent oak
I wish I could become a car reviewer so I could drive the cars around without ha...
I like classic race cars with luxury’s
kind osprey
I like classic race cars with luxury’s
do you like classic race cars or classic luxury cars
silent oak
do you like classic race cars or classic luxury cars
Classic race cars had luxurious features for the time
kind osprey
on what planet
kind osprey
Have you?
You are mistaking these companies road cars with their race cars
back in the day they were two different things
the road cars had leather in them but that didn't make them comfortable by any means either
silent oak
Better then what the poors of the 60s had
Or the average driver of the 60s had. Beeg engine
kind osprey
economy cars vs higher end cars didn't really have an exponential leap in tech or performance around that era. The difference between a baseline Pontiac and a flagship Cadillac was mainly design and interior quality
that shift started to happen when every economy car became cheap looking and filled with plastic
then the luxury cars really started to stand out
silent oak
That’s why I love classic cars less plastic and tech more driver skill
And I’m partial to the 1990s dodge viper since it had no safety features so purely skill of the driver
kind osprey
There were a lot of downsides to older cars definitely but yea if they could viably use plastic back then they definitely would lol
Vipers are nice, we'll never see something like that be made again
it was really a last stand for cars like that
silent oak
Too many driver assistance programs in cars.. sad we don’t get any pure skill of driver kind of cars no more
kind osprey
some technology makes sense, and the ones that don't can usually be turned off for track use
abs for example, most people don't even know how to pump the brakes today, but why would you? abs is better than any driver
kind osprey
abs isn't something that hinders the driving experience, if anything it saves you a new set of tires every week
one short stop and they are bald spotted
even if a deer running out on the road doesn't hit the car you're out $1000
silent oak
I’m just nostalgic to the good ole days when cars weren’t all tech
kind osprey
the best mix of it was probably around the late 90's and early 2000's which is why those cars are skyrocketing
sooner or later every poster car will be unaffordable and stored in garages never to be driven again, it's a sad tale
Like the Carrera gt, Enzo, Mclaren F1, Jaguar xj220 etc
Bugatti eb110, late 90's 911 turbos
and the rare gt2
Those had an amazing balance between tech and raw feel
If you like classic feel from a modern car you'll love Gordon Murray's new car company
he made 2 new models and they are crazy
silent oak
You forgot the legend of 80s cars too.. those were iconic and unforgettable. Well remembered into the 90s
kind osprey
You forgot the legend of 80s cars too.. those were iconic and unforgettable. Wel...
I was listing cars at the peak of when tech didn't overpower the vehicle in terms of driver feel
90's cars were much better in performance and on the clutch, steering feel etc
80's cars still had things to get better at
kind osprey
like 18 wheelers?
kind osprey
Yea most people who buy pickup trucks and suv's do not use it for pickup truck and suv things
silent oak
Half the drivers don’t use them for intended uses
silent oak
I love the 90s ram tubro diesel
kind osprey
unless you need 7 seats or you tow heavy things people just need to learn how to like sedans and station wagons again
some of the estate wagons look better than the sedans imo
silent oak
unless you need 7 seats or you tow heavy things people just need to learn how to...
Or learn to ride motorcycles again
kind osprey
and you get a much better truck space
motorcycles are just too dangerous to use long distance
kind osprey
they can be good for little city commutes but they also aren't good for the environment
stuck owlBOT
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kind osprey
Modern cars are so efficient that they exhaust almost spews out just water
which is why it seems like such a mistake to have fully ev economy cars whn we can just make good quality hybrids
silent oak
EVs won’t replace ICEs completely
kind osprey
you pair a 1.5l 4 cylinder with a little electric motor and it'll get 50mpg while being faster than a 2.0 liter of a previous generation
silent oak
I get 14 mpg in my challenger..
kind osprey
EVs won’t replace ICEs completely
maybe 50-70 years from now but surely we have time before that occurs
silent oak
If they get a hybrid V8 hemi maybe
static gale
I know two people with a pickup truck that use them for their purpose. One has a literal boat, and the other is an actual trucker
kind osprey
Cars like that shouldn't mask efficiency because they will never be efficient
enthusiast cars should still exist but mass produced economy cars are the ones that should be made into the most efficient vehicles possible
banning Lamborghini and Ferrari from using v10's and v12's will not help the environment in any way, it'll just make people angry and hate their local politicians
kind osprey
even if a 5.2 liter v10 produces 10 times the emissions of a 4 cyl Corolla, there are 100x as many corollas and they travel 10x the distance per year
the averager Huracan goes like 4000 miles a year
kind osprey
I don’t like boring cars
exactly, They have a place in this world as reliable transportation but instead of ruining it for enthusiasts they should focus on making the boring cars better
because the boring cars make up 80% of cars
so most of the greenhouse emissions
silent oak
I never drove a “boring” car in my life to be honest
kind osprey
are you loaded?
kind osprey
non boring cars are extremely expensive
kind osprey
It was a v6
not to brust your dreams, but idk if that is a non boring car
kind osprey
it depends on the perspective you're approaching
silent oak
Idk 300 hp isn’t a normal car hp
kind osprey
you can really like a little mid engine 150hp economy shitbox and consider that a non boring car because it is quirky
it's not all about hp
300hp isn't high today
silent oak
That’s why I want a hellcat
kind osprey
I would consider a 1988 Pontiac fiero a quirky mid engine shitbox and I love those things because they are weird and not very well known
to fill an example for you
mr2 also
but mr2's were built much better
kind osprey
That’s why I want a hellcat
it's not worth it unless you really like straight line and low end torque
if you want a car that is fun to drive hp isn't the biggest factor
silent oak
You think I’m not going to enjoy 717 hp and 656 lbs of torque?
static gale
as long as you enjoy it responsibly, you do you
silent oak
as long as you enjoy it responsibly, you do you
I’m not going get wrapped around a telephone pole I’m not a viper driver
kind osprey
comparatively i'd rather have a 250hp car that weighs 2100 pounds than a car with 717 horsepower that weighs 4500 pounds
any day of the week
silent oak
I prefer fun cars…
kind osprey
I like mountain canyon roads, corner speed
silent oak
I live in the middle of the Midwest were it’s mostly flat
kind osprey
I prefer fun cars…
if a 250hp mid engine rwd car that weighs 2100 pounds is not a fun car to you then there is no pleasing you
xD
That is like a go kart with a registration sticker on it
silent oak
I grew up driving a challenger lol
static gale
[insert boat gif]
kind osprey
Instagram
these are my favorite types of roads to drive on
really tight corners elevation changes
silent oak
I love straight lines
kind osprey
like tail of the dragon type stuff
silent oak
Drag strip style racing
kind osprey
For the price of a Hellcat you could probably build a really nice Corvette build
if you're dead set on an american v8
silent oak
I like the hemi whine you get from a hellcat
kind osprey
the whine is a supercharger
you can slap a blower on anything
I don't recommend that though lol
silent oak
Which is part of the 6.2 L v8 hemi
kind osprey
engines explode
silent oak
Atleast you go out in a blaze
kind osprey
Put a supercharger on a stock miata, it will be like jumping in lava
you can only do it once
silent oak
I would love to put a cold air intake on a super charger so it’s loud asf
jagged sentinel
Which is part of the 6.2 L v8 hemi
I believe dodge made design decisions specifically to amplify the sound profile of the supercharger
The supercharger(s) that Chevrolet uses on the LT4 and LT5 aren't as loud as that of the hellcats
silent oak
The scat packs come with cold air intakes so it’s louder
jagged sentinel
The scat packs come with cold air intakes so it’s louder
They were borderline obnoxious before the cold air intake
silent oak
They were borderline obnoxious before the cold air intake
I like a cold air intake!~
jagged sentinel
Congrats
silent oak
The hemi whine sounds so much better
jagged sentinel
It's to the point that any supercharger whine is immediately compared to hellcat whine or mistaken for a hellcat whine
Like how any straight cut gear noise is immediately compared to the M3 GTR
jagged sentinel
More bark and less bite compared to its rivals
silent oak
But will absolutely dominate on the drag strip
jagged sentinel
I guess depending on how you look at it they have more bite too
swift olive
Naturally aspirated V8 W204 C63 
silent oak
I guess depending on how you look at it they have more bite too
The demon is both bark and bite
jagged sentinel
In a straight line
They have more horsepower but they don't have the handling chops to match
silent oak
It’s a muscle car not a sports car
jagged sentinel
Muscle cars are sports cars, just not the kind of sports car you're thinking of
silent oak
Corvettes 6.2 L v8 did 490 hp
jagged sentinel
Corvettes 6.2 L v8 did 490 hp
Naturally aspirated, yes
silent oak
Naturally aspirated, yes
Did it come with a turbo or a super charger?
jagged sentinel
Corvettes 6.2 L v8 did 490 hp
I'd like to remind you that dodge's biggest NA V8 put out less than that
static gale
Naturally aspirated V8 W204 C63 <:woow:328455146562519041>
i wonder how it would sound if they used a mic that could handle it, lol
jagged sentinel
Did it come with a turbo or a super charger?
Naturally aspirated means no turbo or supercharger
Or procharger, twincharger or any other kind of forced induction
jagged sentinel
Has any American manufacturer managed to make a sports car with 1k hp?
Multiple, yes
silent oak
But with the style and coolness of the challenger?
static gale
"can they do this, but with the subjective standards I set, myself?"
silent oak
I like the 70s challenger
jagged sentinel
"can they do this, but with the subjective standards I set, myself?"
I was going to say something like this, albeit a bit less direct
static gale
lol
silent oak
I like loud ass muscle cars
Cars that scream look at me I’m financially irresponsible
jagged sentinel
Has any American manufacturer managed to make a sports car with 1k hp?
SSC Ultimate Aero TT, Hennessy Venom GT and F5, SSC Tuatara, Saleen S7 LM to name a few
And also the new C8 ZR1
silent oak
Does the c8 have a race body kit?
jagged sentinel
what
silent oak
The c8 ZR1 with all the race canards and spoilers
jagged sentinel
They've been racing the C8 since the model's inception, if that's what you're asking
The C8 ZR1 has a wing, front splitter and Canards as standard as I understand
Frankly a car with that kind of power should come with that stuff
jagged sentinel
Yes
static gale
the one you like
jagged sentinel
I can't think of a Corvette model that wouldn't at least be serviceable as a daily
silent oak
Older models?
swift olive
This one has a better mic
silent oak
I want a c8 but it’s around 60 grand
jagged sentinel
Good luck getting one for MSRP anyway
jagged sentinel
There like above 100 grand
The C8 Z06 starts at 112
And it isn't limited production BS either
silent oak
Is the c8 worth 60 grand to you?
jagged sentinel
Is the c8 worth 60 grand to you?
Yeah I'd say so
silent oak
I love corvettes as much as I love challengers
jagged sentinel
For what you're getting that price is far from outrageous imo
swift olive
I NEED the C63 Black Series 2012.
Not the new one, nothing other than this beast!
silent oak
Is it over engineered like every German car .. cough cough bmw
static gale
the merc
silent oak
Some American cars can be over engineered
jagged sentinel
It's the most competent sports car General Motors has ever made, but it's still far from a space-age car
And it's probably the most "Corvette" Corvette ever made imo
jagged sentinel
I still don't know how I feel about the flatplane crank engines in the Z06 and ZR1 though
silent oak
It looks interesting. Didn’t the higher performing corvettes run against Ferraris?
static gale
The C5 is the vette I grew up seeing a lot. I found out about the 50th Anniversary Edition from the Corvette PS2 game
jagged sentinel
It looks interesting. Didn’t the higher performing corvettes run against Ferrari...
The Corvette has been racing internationally for over 20 years
And it's gotten many many accolades along the way
jagged sentinel
Corvettes and Ferraris are in totally different price brackets
silent oak
Ferraris are big fuck off money cars
jagged sentinel
Let's not act like there haven't been any American cars that get 6-figure expensive
jagged sentinel
Which one is faster?
You'd need to compare performance between Corvette and Ferrari, I don't know
silent oak
Or cost 6 figures in the long run
jagged sentinel
But every generation of the GT Corvette racer has been fairly successful
Especially the C6 and C7
swift olive
The C5 is the vette I grew up seeing a lot. I found out about the 50th Anniversa...
It's so cool!
jagged sentinel
The C5 is the vette I grew up seeing a lot. I found out about the 50th Anniversa...
That color is pretty
silent oak
Do you think corvettes will look like Ferraris in the future ?
jagged sentinel
Never been a huge fan of the C5 styling but I don't hate it and my dad almost bought one as a weekend driver
jagged sentinel
Do you think corvettes will look like Ferraris in the future ?
They're already getting there now
jagged sentinel
Isn’t it based on the 458?
No?
jagged sentinel
The flatplane engine in the Z06 was "inspired" by the engineering of the 458 but the body is a Chevy design through and through
Including the decision to axe a manual transmission altogether
silent oak
I wonder if Chevy took Ferrari designers
jagged sentinel
I wonder if Chevy took Ferrari designers
I doubt it
I'd imagine Ferrari engineers and designers are paid too well to jump ship
silent oak
Atleast they aren’t German engineers
jagged sentinel
The idea of a mid engine Vette has been bouncing around GM floors for decades
silent oak
Germans find ways to make engines so complicated
jagged sentinel
German engines work brilliantly when they're in great working order, and are reliable when kept there
Problem is
People have a habit of failing to do that
jagged sentinel
German engineering in general is good, and expensive
silent oak
Except when there’s a problem in the engine
jagged sentinel
German engineering in general is good, and expensive
They are very good at what they do
swift olive
German engineering in general is good, and expensive
Yea and Beautiful
jagged sentinel
Except when there’s a problem in the engine
Like I said, they're reliable when they're taking care of well
swift olive
jagged sentinel
If you aren't taking your car for regular servicing that's a you problem not a manufacturer problem
silent oak
If you aren't taking your car for regular servicing that's a you problem not a m...
Does your car say when it needs an oil change
Or servicing?
jagged sentinel
It has an arbitrary oil condition meter but I don't use that as a reference
static gale
Does your car say when it needs an oil change
yeah, in the manual
jagged sentinel
They put a sticker on the window that gives a date and a mileage for the earliest ideal time for a servicing
silent oak
My car didn’t come with a manuals when I got it used lol
jagged sentinel
You can probably find a manual on the Internet
silent oak
I did that and found it
jagged sentinel
Noice
silent oak
But it was funny my used challenger didn’t come with it
jagged sentinel
Fordpass app also has service internals in it as well
silent oak
It was a private sale so I guess the owners threw it out and used it as bonfire tinder
It was in the south so I guessed that
jagged sentinel
Getting rid of the owner's manual under any circumstances is unwise tbh
jagged sentinel
My 2003 F150 that I drove as a first car had the owner's manual, and it was from Arkansas
A farm truck too, no less
(a remarkably well taken care of farm truck I might add)
silent oak
Do you recommend any trucks for winter?
jagged sentinel
Anything with 4WD
jagged sentinel
The only trucks I've driven long-term is that 03 F150 I mentioned and a 13 Ram 1500
Both had 4WD, Hi and Low, and both were perfectly usable in the snow
silent oak
I like 90s turbo diesel rams
jagged sentinel
Then get one, have fun with the cracked dash tho