transportation

[kind drift]

It do be like that

Then we have the Hyundai getz driver's because the wife said to get a fuel efficient car

[toxic hearth]

[dull folio]

Yet another case of great exterior/terrible interior spec

[dire shard]

what's wrong with the interior

it looks well kept

very well kept

i hope you weren't expecting some tan or red interior from a base model 987

i'd take this

it's got the stick and all

[onyx rivet]

Yeah ita fine

Ive no problems with the interior

[dull folio]

It's gray

Whoever walks into a Porsche dealership and asks for gray instead of black or any other interior color is mentally ill

hideous

Makes your interior look like a 90's Toyota

[dire shard]

🤔 grey bothers you but not black?

black and grey are on the bottom of porsche's pricing structure

people just picked it because it was cheap and easy to care for

[onyx rivet]

nah shingo has a point

why choose grey over black

[dull folio]

Yes, black interiors age gracefully, gray interiors do not

Also black interior pairs well with virtually any exterior color

[dire shard]

the 987's interior ages the same no matter what colour it is

it's just an ugly, utilitarian interior

you'd have a point if it were some other car, but the 987 interior being grey doesn't make me feel anything different than if it were black

[dull folio]

ofc it's utilitarian, it's a modern Porsche

But it aged well, because they didn't do weird shit to it, so it will always look good in the right color (not gray)

[dire shard]

i found a 10 hour video of a guy trying to run down a full fuel tank in his fd3s by lapping c1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csAqQUPSTqY

but why

why would you drive in a circle for ten hours

to scientifically find out your fuel consumption i guess...

[sage roost]

guessing by the thumbnail I expected it to be full illegal racing

bro is going 20mph

[dire shard]

well yeah

think of the fuel economy bro

[sage roost]

it was so funny seeing a Honda civic pass him like they’re Verstappen

when they’re probably going like 50mph too

[night steeple]

keep the popup lights down maybe the vid will be another hour longer

[heady swift]

ignition requires energy, there's less energy when it's cold. While lower temperatures are ideal of electrical transfer, electrochemical processes still require environmental energy (heat) to start. At times, it can be too cold for the battery to function properly. Oil also thickens at lower temperatures. This increases friction, necessitating more kinetic energy for the engine to turn

maybe think about purchasing more winter-proof materials, or finding ways to insulate certain parts of your car. Do consult a mechanic on either matters

[sage roost]

it’s an obvious Volvo ripoff lmao

[loud spade]

Wtf did they do to the CRV

[cedar jasper]

look at how they massacred my boy

[dire shard]

you say it's a massacre, but the CRV otherwise looks the best it's ever looked

the volvo lights are unfortunate(and not even bad looking) but the rest of the car is actually really nice looking

this is coming from someone who doesn't like the CRV or this class of vehicle as a whole

[dire shard]

volvo's cars continue to still be good looking

[night steeple]

they're close to overdoing it, but for now its ok I like the volvo design language

i like my volvos not too sharp edged

[onyx rivet]

yeah this take

they're good looking for now, im not too sure i dig the current Polestar/Volvo cars but they're still not to bad

[dire shard]

i like them

they straddle the line between looking minimalistic and techy that lucid and tesla went too far into, and the current boxy conventional volvo design language they've had for the past twenty years which i've always liked

[winged geyser]

agreed

[vestal garnet]

HRV has better looks than the CRV

https://youtu.be/MVwJmYYBUMc?si=xyEXmHxkA3BNg_yv

[modern edge]

which one do u all prefer

[onyx rivet]

i prefer the

[lost crane]

i have $6 to my name but i wanna buy this

[night steeple]

theres a small ev display in the mall, every cheap ev I sit in, the floor is so damn high I sit with my knees up, these cars are no good for passengers lol, especially long trips

[steel oar]

The only difference is the plate

[modern edge]

u like it

[steel oar]

I guess

[night steeple]

took an engine pic of my old car, kinda amazed it still runs with the neglect I give it

[kind osprey]

Fords big body on frame vehicles are usually pretty long lasting

The others though, no comment

xD

[loud spade]

Looks fine

[night steeple]

it looks fine but theres some underlying problems slowly eating it , some slow oil leak

[manic flame]

This is what my dad and I are supposed to be working on

[night steeple]

always wondered if inline engines are easier to work on since the sides are more spacious by default

and then theres my volvo which has a ford engine, where the exhaust + turbo is on the inside instead of the front

[manic flame]

Compared to the V6 that that car also came with its definitely easier

[hybrid charm]

what Mercedes is this

[dire shard]

clk200 kompressor

[vapid slate]

Still runs smoothly after 10 years.

[manic flame]

What tianmi said, clk200 kompressor

[surreal pilot]

true, but put in a ford gt and you got the big 4 of the 2000s

[sage roost]

one of the goat mercs

speaking of: https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/mercedes-amg-cle-63-switches-four-pot-phev-585bhp-v8

step in the right direction tbf

[dire shard]

i believe this is called taking a step back out of the fire

[onyx rivet]

i think it looks fantastic in silver

[hybrid charm]

what year

[manic flame]

04

[hybrid charm]

nice

[old sedge]

Which would y'all have if you get to choose only one, a brand new Ferrari or a brand new Tesla performance car?

And I wonder if Enzo Ferrari is still better than Elon Musk in car industry

[jagged sentinel]

Depends on what you define as better

[loud spade]

If it’s the only car I can have then Tesla

Ferrari won’t be practical for every day use

[old sedge]

Maybe more respectable I guess

[old sedge]

If I live in a non-car centric country, I would pick Ferrari because I can keep it and take a train or bus when not using it

[jagged sentinel]

Enzo Ferrari wasn't a very well-liked person

[loud spade]

That’s not the point of the question

[jagged sentinel]

That answer sidesteps most of these hypothetical questions anyway

Ruins the fun

I'd probably pick the tesla

[jagged sentinel]

I can if it's a Ferrari that's making that noise

[vapid slate]

Dope.

[sage roost]

why is this even a question

you’re comparing a sub $100k car to literally Ferrari

I will haul groceries in an 812 competizione idc

[dull folio]

I don't even like the modern Ferrari cars but I would pick one over ANY Tesla in a heartbeat

[heady swift]

pick ferrari, sell it for an i20 and have enough for a house downpayment

[kind osprey]

Anyone who would choose a free Tesla over a free Ferrari is a special level of braindead

[vapid slate]

I would pick a BMX over ANY Tesla in a heartbeat.

[haughty sail]

What cars y’all own?

[jagged sentinel]

I just hate Ferrari more than I hate tesla

[kind osprey]

Wha

But how?

It's one of the few supercar companies that still cares about build quality

A Tesla is an electric economy car, I honestly in no way see their comparison the original question is a weird one

It's kinda like saying what would you rather have a Bentley Flying Spur or a 1 of 1 Pagani Zonda

There is a right answer and a weird answer

Because technically it can't be a wrong answer

[kind osprey]

Ferrari has some dull sounding cars but simultaneously make some of the best sounding cars on the planet

812, 458, 599, f12, La Ferrari, any old carburetor ones

I was never even a big fan of Ferrari I'd want a Huracan, but they still make excellent cars

[sage roost]

id definitely rather have an 812 competizione aperta finished in rosso mugello in our current apartment than sell it and buy a house

[sage roost]

Would you rather

a new bmw 7 series

or THE black mclaren P1

the one that was tested in Bahrain and yas marina all those years ago

[jagged sentinel]

The company, not the cars

I have no issue with the cars themselves

[onyx rivet]

i still think tesla inc. ™️ pty. co. is still worse as a company than Ferrari are

[modern edge]

look the sun setting in the background

[kind osprey]

Hard image

[modern edge]

cheers

[exotic sinew]

hi

[modern edge]

hi do u like my image i sent

[obtuse urchin]

beauty

[hollow plaza]

Isn't that the UK?

[agile portal]

Spotted this while at work

[modern edge]

nope

[agile portal]

Idk what's that sorry lol, I just know its an r34

[night steeple]

most of them are overpriced anyway, cant even have the 34 sedan

[agile portal]

In my country a 2nd hand one costs the same as r35 😞

[modern edge]

it was raining

[agile portal]

A bussin picture fr

[quartz prawn]

best one so far

[drowsy folio]

where's the driver 😨

i got a mate that drives buses

he's on one of the felixstowe routes iirc

[kind osprey]

https://youtu.be/LCQHK1B8QGk

[kind osprey]

https://youtu.be/1KKiqibOxoc

[dry sage]

Just a render, but still.

[sage roost]

saw a black on black M8 comp and all I want to say is

I don’t like the G80 anymore

[sage roost]

M8 coupe if it wasn’t obvious

M8 gran coupe, nah

[full tinsel]

When will you become rendered again

[sage roost]

soonTM

[kind osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWZpqhxxxj4&ab_channel=DougDeMuro

[onyx rivet]

liked the G80 in the first place

unless you meant the Genesis G80

i actually prefer the M8 Gran Coupe over the coupe

[sage roost]

I like everything about it except the front end

but I prefer the coupe over the gran coupe, it’s just more… “sleek” looking

[static gale]

https://youtube.com/shorts/LhCvsSE4H5c

[sage roost]

Saw the new dark horse today

quite cool

I like it more than the old gen actually

[placid mauve]

Does anyone know this Lamborghini model?

Thank you

I saw it a while back and have been looking for a while

[drowsy folio]

that's two different cars lmao

[steady cove]

car

[steady cove]

YOU SAW IT?

lmfao

[placid mauve]

Yeah

How rare is it?

[steady cove]

first time i ve met someone that saw a veneno

[placid mauve]

It was pretty rad ngl

[steady cove]

theres only 13 in the world 💀

and like

[placid mauve]

Oh cool

[steady cove]

half of those are hidden and most on showrooms

[placid mauve]

It was up in Milwaukee

Not in any major states or cities

[steady cove]

lucky

[placid mauve]

Isn’t it worth likeee 4 million

[placid mauve]

I guess

I’m not a sports guy I’m a muscle car guy

[steady cove]

both nice

[placid mauve]

Yeah I guess it was a nice car

[fast edge]

that's not a veneno

that's a pontiac fiero or something

[steady cove]

actually this would make a massive reddit post so im about to do that

its def not a veneno

looks like a replica

[fast edge]

the only grey veneno in the us is owned by kris singh

who lives in miami

[steady cove]

i posted it on reddit, lets see

someone said it was a veneno

i said it wasnt and sent a photo

[onyx rivet]

most likely a replica

[kind osprey]

Idk what this thing is

But it isn't a Lamborghini

[placid mauve]

You sure

Cause lotta people said it was a veneno

[kind osprey]

It looks nothing like one

It looks like a fiero kit car

[placid mauve]

Then what is it

[onyx rivet]

It kinda looks like Veneno but its more likely a replica

[kind osprey]

But the photo has countable pixels

So we'll never really know

[placid mauve]

It had a veneno roar to it

Like that engine wasn’t a weak one

[placid mauve]

It was an iphone7

[kind osprey]

An original Blackberry takes better photos

[placid mauve]

Hey

I was shaking cause cool car

[onyx rivet]

Does the front not look too narrow to be a true Veneno?

[kind osprey]

The cars dimensions look similar to a veneno but they don't seem to really match

Also it has an extra pair of lights

[placid mauve]

So what could it be

[kind osprey]

The front is very slanted which is common for kit cars

You said this car wasn't in a city or dense area

[placid mauve]

It wasn’t like cardboard it wasn’t fake it was a real brand car

[placid mauve]

It’s in Milwaukee

[kind osprey]

There are only about 5 that get driven

[placid mauve]

I said not a BIG city

[kind osprey]

In the world

[jagged sentinel]

Conflicting information regarding how many were in the US, I'm seeing 3 and 4

[dire shard]

it's very clearly not a veneno anyways, i think those with eyeballs can agree

[steady cove]

the reddit post landed on it beeing a poorly made veneno replica

[kind osprey]

That was my conclusion as well

since is vaguely resembles it but doesn't look like one

At the end of the day, it is an ugly looking bodykit for an adventador, the other limited Lamborghini's are cooler

the veneno is just kinda the rarest and that is all it has going for it

the reventon and sesto elemento are much cooler cars

[hybrid charm]

co-pilot AI didn't know either

[jagged sentinel]

They done brought a Karin sultan to the car show😭

[steady cove]

thats a pretty nice lexus

i rarely see them here much less on a bodykit

actually nvm

[steady cove]

rainguards made the car worst

[jagged sentinel]

Some of the other cars present, just for reference

[steady cove]

ii nice cobra

red and yellow

[jagged sentinel]

I would love to figure out what that red car next to the cobra is but I can't

[steady cove]

i was wondering the same

but its ugly so i didnt ask

it rlly said ":D"

[kind osprey]

big sniffer

[kind osprey]

I was genuinely considering getting an is300 but the prices got stupidly high between the exact time period I was interested in them

people wanted 10 fucking grand for an automatic with high miles

and manuals simply did not exist for sale

when they did, they sold for almost 20k

But yea the 2001-2005 gen looks really nice it would have been a cool first car

[soft zodiac]

question

sf90 xx spider or 12 cilindri spider?

[round kiln]

👆

[kind osprey]

Both are goofy looking

And the sf90 doesn't handle all that well compared to the cheaper f8 and 296 tbh

I dislike both so I would choose whichever one costs the most

[soft zodiac]

wdym sf90 xx handles really well

not the sf90 stradale

1 minute 17.3 seconds

[kind osprey]

I bet the track focus and extra downforce helps but the base car is just not really as fun as your more bare bone Ferraris

[soft zodiac]

fiorano lap time

[kind osprey]

Idk why that is since the 296 is also a hybrid and it a nice car to drive

[soft zodiac]

it probably is

[kind osprey]

I've never driven a sf90xx though that's like rare rare I assume

I really like the 488/f8 but the 458 is absolutely the best on sound

[soft zodiac]

ong

[kind osprey]

Out of the v8's

Definitely

[soft zodiac]

nothing tops the last truly mechanical ferrari the 599 gto tho

[kind osprey]

I consider the 599xx downshifts one of the best sounding things of all time

The engine itself is definitely in most peoples top 5/top 10 of all time I hope

[soft zodiac]

it has a sequential no?

[soft zodiac]

defo

[kind osprey]

I think it might

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised is the 599xx had the flappy paddle f1 auto

Since back in that era Ferrari put that in everything

[soft zodiac]

F1 'SuperFast' 6-speed Automated Manual

its this one

[kind osprey]

I gotta admit I don't really hate the 12 cilindri spider, like I get what they are reminiscent on the inspiration from the Daytone is there, but it just does not compare to the looks of an f12/812 by any metric

[soft zodiac]

the 812 is truly a different machine

[kind osprey]

The cilindri would be a cool "20 out of 20" multi million dollar limited one

Like the j50 or f60

But as a normal model it seems odd

[soft zodiac]

but ferrari already makes too many of those

imo the sp3 daytona should be mass produced

[kind osprey]

The sp3 would have been a cool La Ferrari successor but I don't think there was enough differentiation between the two to consider it as such

The sp3 couldn't have been mass produced but it could have been extended to at most maybe like 400-500 cars

Ferrari doesn't mass produce mid engine v12's. The v12's are only meant for their tourer front mid engine cars nowadays

For decades every mid engine v12 they made was a big deal type of car so it would be a hard cycle to break

[soft zodiac]

yea but with all these emission law i think theyre run is coming to an end

for instance huracan's successor is revealed to be a v8 hybrid

like an artura

[kind osprey]

Which is crazy because with how low production v10's and v12's are they don't do a jack smidge to the environment at all. These cars are so rare and on top of that they only ever get driven 1000-3000 miles a year on the high ranges

[soft zodiac]

emission laws are dumb

[kind osprey]

Every bugatti produced since the early 1990's COMBINED has produced less emissions than the amount of Toyota corolla made with the span of a single day have made

It is just scales

There aren't a million Bugattis

[soft zodiac]

its about mass on a whole

[kind osprey]

Exactly

[soft zodiac]

and the vw group especially surely can find a loop hole

[kind osprey]

If you produce less than 10,000 of a vehicle for the entire world you should have very lax emission laws, just the modern basics to not spew unnecessary noxious chemicals.
If you only produce less than 1000 then it shouldn't have to go through anything but safety testing

Like durability and crashing etc

[soft zodiac]

exactly

[kind osprey]

Honda makes as many civics in a day as Ferrari has made cars, ever

1948 to now

I spewed that out my ass but I'm probably right

Lmao

[soft zodiac]

It's probably even 2x

[kind osprey]

Anyone saying we need to get rid of supercars to save the planet is a premium level lobotomy patient

Like look at all the concrete china is wasting

That damages the environment more than and car ever did

[soft zodiac]

And they have no idea how lithium is mined for producing a single ev

[kind osprey]

Rip the Lamborghini v10 if that shit goes I'm buying a Huracan before they skyrocket

[soft zodiac]

It is going out

It's official

[kind osprey]

The gt3rs handles better but the Huracan makes for a better road car

[soft zodiac]

Check carwows Instagram

488 pista piloti>>

[kind osprey]

2 extra cylinders didn't kill anyone... I love v8's but v10's belong in entry level Lamborghini's

It is bread and butter

It just works

[soft zodiac]

True

V10 is literally not in any other car now that R8 is dead

[kind osprey]

V10's acoustically are my favorite since you get basically an echo'd choppy 5 cylinder

The 5 cylinder in it of itself is a pretty modern invention

It was near impossible to slap a carburetor on a 5 cylinder layout so they only became a mass produced thing after fuel injection

[soft zodiac]

Long live

458 speciale or 488 pista I ask you this because I believe you've driven both

[kind osprey]

I never drove the special ones and the 488 gtb was only for a few minutes

They are both very beautiful but I'd lean towards the 458 because naturally aspirated and such

The gtb is still 662 horsepower so only about 50 something less than the pista and newer ones

[soft zodiac]

It's lighter as well

[kind osprey]

For an almost 10 year old car it's pretty modern

We stagnated it seems

2000 cars in 2012 felt ancient

Now some 2012 cars today feel like new

[soft zodiac]

Exactly

They retain the value pretty well too

[kind osprey]

The Ferrari's? I haven't looked in a while but yea I like exotics for that reason too

They are expensive like luxury cars but don't have 85% price drop offs like them

458's are pushing 12-15 years old and are still $200,000 cars in good condition

[soft zodiac]

458 speciales sell for more than sticker price

[kind osprey]

They were like $250k new I think

Yea the specials always typically do with Ferrari

[soft zodiac]

I can find really bad 458 for 120k

[kind osprey]

Because Ferrari makes amazing cars but their brand and customers are all snobs who waitlist and bootlick for the allocation

[soft zodiac]

Considering it came around the same time as the 12 c it's held pretty well 12c's are sub 100k

[kind osprey]

Damn that's cheap, that is still what good 430's go for

[soft zodiac]

Not the 430 scuderias tho

[kind osprey]

Yea the older Mclarens are bargains but the maintenance could be an issue

[soft zodiac]

That v8 is a nightmare to fix

[kind osprey]

Yea all the special editions are overly expensive

430 challenge or a regular optioned out 430 with a gated manual

I feel like it would be almost 50 50 in a poll %

[soft zodiac]

Challenge for me

And also since the purists have their eyes locked onto the f40 and laferrari now might be a good time to grab an f50 or Enzo (which by no means are cheap cars) they are guaranteed future classics

[kind osprey]

All 4 are eyed like crazy

The f40 has higher demand but the f50 has a much lower supply

Everyone dislikes driving the f50 but people will pay 4mil for it

F40 kills me since in 2017 is was a $1300000 car

And now it's a mid 2's car for the same mileage and condition

Anyone who bought back then is driving a better investment than an index fund

When the car I can't afford in my lifetime doubles in price (it went from 2 gajillion to 4 googilian)

[soft zodiac]

Haha

but the ultimate goal would be enzo,pre lp gated murci,zonda c12 s,saleen s7,slr mclaren,f50, mclaren f1,koenigsegg ccx andcarrera gt

all in silver color perhaps

[soft zodiac]

also a 2005 ford gt gulf edition would be sweet

[round kiln]

ITS TOMMY

[sage roost]

The car only known from forza

only 25 in the world

has a modified LS7 making 600 wheel, weighs only 1000kg

[soft zodiac]

thats the mosler right

[sage roost]

mhm

[soft zodiac]

its my go to car in s1 class

s1 max

solid car unfortunately doesnt make the list for me due to its limited run

saleen s1 is criminally underrated as well

[onyx rivet]

i first found it out from asphalt 8 lmao

"nice Saleen S7 bro"

[sage roost]

i also thought it was a weird looking saleen s7 at first lmao

[jagged sentinel]

That thing is bonkers and is very capable of making 1000

[sage roost]

power to weight ratio bout to go crazy

there’s someone on YT who twin turbo’d it making 850

[steady cove]

Guys have you heard about the new portuguese hypercar or whatever

Adamastor fúria

[kind osprey]

Omg 291mph car :O

Lmao

[sage roost]

I think I understood that

[kind osprey]

From Fh4

The 599xx evo and the mosler were tuned to unrealistic speeds

[kind osprey]

It looks very Aston looking

Just the front and rear diffuser mainly

[soft zodiac]

700 hp

1000 hp variant

these are slept on aswell

mazzanti

avanti mazzanti

the 1000 hp one is the mazzanti millecavalli

really aggressive aero

[steady cove]

It looks like that gta car

I forgot the name

[sage roost]

In FH5 it’s my favorite car

It’s a meta racing car

holds multiple world records

[kind osprey]

I don't think I have driven the mosler in fh5

Can we talk about the destruction of Lotus real quick

These two vehicles are made bybthe same company rn

One is an art piece for under 100k

And the other is an utter shit looking overpriced bubble ev suv

How could they contrast that hard just call the new lotus suv and fucking geely and stop tarnishing the name

I saw the new suv in person up close, it isn't like some cars where it looks better in photos

I didn't even takea photo of it on its own but it is that gray car photobombing the new Lamburgumer

[soft zodiac]

purosangue>>

[kind osprey]

I don't like how any of these new luxury suvs look but I gotta give props to Ferrari for sticking a big ol v12 in there

It was a real fuck you to the Audi Urus rs

[sage roost]

it’s basically a Chinese car lmao

Very little actual lotus if any

now lotus is owned by geely

[soft zodiac]

Missed opportunity to name the evija as the reincarnated esprit

[static gale]

Vagner

[viral fjord]

Are there any Plane Lovers here?

[loud spade]

I like planes but my plane knowledge is rather limited

[loud spade]

But yes

[soft zodiac]

gta 5 is available for 14 bucks bro

in epic

and 11 bucks at steam

[onyx rivet]

lovely car

too bad surflvlfish got booted/left

[jagged sentinel]

Sounds very nice

[brazen reef]

damn dry for 4 hours

[kind osprey]

https://youtube.com/shorts/anAG2dgskNk?si=Is57J7UbrTOOhdNa

[kind osprey]

https://youtube.com/shorts/VzGs3ZdsG1M?si=TaOCLYv5jgQ1cBNx

[kind osprey]

French party

[jagged sentinel]

A threat to the safety of man

Must be eliminated

[sage roost]

Having that many Citroens in one place should be illegal

[sterile kayak]

Citroens should be illegal, Peugeot supremacy

[rich patio]

i dig the ds

[onyx rivet]

wat if they are waiting for repairs in a garage

[loud spade]

If they’re all waiting for repairs, and they’re all citroens, that’s saying something

And it’s not something good

[sterile kayak]

I misshifted so hard the ABS kicked in and then proceeded to fail

And the car keeps feeling like it’s jumping at the front whilst driving

Silly BMW

[sage roost]

Should come in one by one

[static gale]

describes literal skill issue
"silly car"

[drowsy folio]

common

[heady swift]

lotus has had a lot of economical problems in the past. Designing engines doesn't pay enough and their cars largely flopped until the elise, which was a minor but fan-favourite flop. Elise and Exige s2 were kinda popular, evora was a brilliant flop. The third gen was too expensive for the segment. You could pick up a new second gen for the price of a vw passat or entry-level bmw. Third gen was in the same price range as porsches. Most people opted for the latter because it's more well-known and approachable. A lot of lotus owners I've spoken to were previous cayman owners, it's kind of an inside joke.
Regardless, porsche provides a better brand-image, more reliable parts and good product-service, especially because it's VW owned and can make use of the VW network, pipeline and HR. Lotus offers a brilliant drivers experience, and because of toyota borrowed parts, a semi-reliable sportscar at that. However, there's no customer outreach whatsoever and original lotus parts (mostly bodywork, lights, interior) are expensive, hard to come by and not very reliable. Many owners replace a lot of Lotus parts with whatever tuning companies sell because these are more reliable and cheaper.
What lotus needed to do is build brand image and improve customer outreach. No one, aside from car enthusiast, james bond fans and older F1 fans know what lotus is. They also needed to improve the consumer-end of the supply-chain. Lotuses are known to be hardcore and lightweight, with the evora being the appropriate comfortable option. No one wants to wait seven months for a front bumper or call a dead line from the lotus website. Porsche offers you insurance, a nearby dealer/workshop and a replacement car instead.

In truth, lotus lost to porsche based on brand image and reliability. The new E-SUV and geely cars are an attempt to save the brand in a way similar to the cayenne. No genuine porsche-fans liked the cayenne, but the car essentially saved the brand and created an entire segment. Porsche's focus on hybrid and electrical systems has been a (successful) attempt to futureproof the brand when EVs become the norm. From what I can tell, the new lotus directive is essentially throwing the brand in the same trajectory, with a whopping 2-1 electric SUV. Obviously, this won't work as lotus is about lightweight and fun cars, not something practical. I think the right decision was to invest in professional racing and downscale.

Lotus has always been a niche-brand and should have stayed that way

ironically, lotus has a rather thriving second-hand market as the lightweight, compact sportscar segment is slowly growing. People want affordable sunday cars, more and more countries are doubling down on emission and weight based criteria for insurance and road taxes. A 900kg elise is more favourable in that context than a heavy porsche

honestly, lotus didn't go defunct because all the other cars in the segment sucked. The C4 is sexy but plagued with reliability issues and maintenance costs while the alpine a110 demands nostalgia that most potential buyers don't have. Also no one wants an automatic if the point of the car is ''fun''.

[sterile kayak]

I ain’t reading that

[onyx rivet]

i've read all that

[heady swift]

tldr lotus bad finances, porsche good finances, lotus tries to make same comeback as porsche, lotus will fail

[sterile kayak]

Lotus is more driver focused cars than Porsche

Idc about the economics of it

[onyx rivet]

yeah pretty much
the head company with the one who will control a company's money is going to control what product is going to churned out

I think the right decision was to invest in professional racing
maybe not
unless they get shoved into FormulaE or whatever current Lotus (or more realistically Geely) aligns with, they are just going to lose money

or lose money regardless of whatever discipline they invest in

[heady swift]

lotus is indeed more driver-focused, but their bad decision-making has lead to the company's downfall

[heady swift]

I'm saying that, prior to geely acquisitions, lotus should have downscaled and focused investment efforts into professional racing. What got lotus through 80s, 90s and early 2000s was providing and tailoring engines and car parts for other teams and manufacturers. I personally think that downscaling and turning investments to racing endeavours, for means of product innovation, was a more suitable option for lotus

because they certainly don't have the brand image to put an suv on the market

[onyx rivet]

you say that like its too late to change

(it kind of is)

[heady swift]

it probably is

the emira did showcase the growing market for small and ''affordable'' sportscars

and the reception has been very positive

it also doesn't help that geely is just using lotus as a fleshlight to enter the european and american domestic market. There's a lot of motif for lawmakers to further increase protectionist bills against chinese makes, as their EVs are starting to taking a major share in the segment

there's a relatively big chance that future legislation will extend to chinese shareholders or pipelines

and that could be detrimental to lotus

[onyx rivet]

a...

fleshlight?

[heady swift]

you heard me

[onyx rivet]

yeah i dont see how that analogy works out but i guess the points gets acrossed

[viral fjord]

😭

[static gale]

trojan horse, maybe? 😭

[sage roost]

what the text wall

[drowsy folio]

lotus' forte was undercarriage, they didn't do too well against bigger engine names like amg or cosworth

[drowsy folio]

China's entry into the European market should've been through VWG, VW already had acquisitions in china from the 80s, some china-exclusive vehicle models and such. Geely as a company was the one that started acquiring European automakers like Polestar, MG, Lotus to give them a larger market and introduce chinese automotive manufacturing into europe. It's been working well so far, although it's debatable whether or not it was a bit unnecessary. Polestars are fairly common as far as EVs go, Lynk is getting China's name out into motorsport and advertising their domestic market, there wasn't really a reason to start acquiring smaller manufacturers when they could have just outright bought them and tore them down to replace them with their own brands like Hongqi and BYD.

[onyx rivet]

Mercedes-Benz PureSpeed AMG Concept

i think i would still stick to the SLR McLaren Stirling Moss, thanks for trying

[sage roost]

Brother ewww

What’s that

It has a halo as well

[nova estuary]

Probably will have a 4 banger too since that's 2024 AMG style

[onyx rivet]

yeah i suppose they wanted it to safer or wanted to make it seem like it was 'Mercedes F1-style'

but the Elva, V12 Speedster, Monza SP1/2 didnt bother with some sort of halo

the Morgan Midsummer didnt even bother with rollbars

[kind osprey]

The front looks short bus inspired

The rest looks cool though

[static gale]

The "shark" nose, as they call it

[kind osprey]

It looks like a hideous creature with no nose trying to smile but physically can't open its mouth all the way

That front in an insult to all sharks

[static gale]

[kind osprey]

The sterling moss had amazing symmetry and really made it easy to see the half way point of the car

This new thing though the front is just flat af

It looks so odd

It reminds me of that new ugly hybrid Lexus they make now

The rest of the car looks fine but it has a tumor on the front of it

[jagged sentinel]

[static gale]

It's to deflect anyone over child height over the bonnet duh 🙄

[jagged sentinel]

To be honest that might be right

I can't tell if that comment was satirical or not

[static gale]

Half

It was some regulation somewhere that you have to have a certain front shape for pedestrian safety

Doesn't apply to American pickups obvi

[jagged sentinel]

I believe vehicles above a certain weight are exempt

[kind osprey]

So we push the children under the car because they are stupid

And should not have been in the street

While I woft my fancy Lexus

[static gale]

The weight class might be it

[jagged sentinel]

Even things like Tahoes and Suburbans have those giant flat front fascias

[static gale]

Yep

[kind osprey]

We need more sedans and less suv's most people can get 90% of what they do done in a sedan. If you need a minivan or a full sized suv because of a lot of kids or trunk space that's fine but most don't

It's all marketing

[jagged sentinel]

Granted they are also on truck frames and use truck powertrains most of the time

[onyx rivet]

ive not problems with minvans to be honest

from what i notice, the people who buy them really need them

[kind osprey]

That makes sense since minivans aesthetically not desirable for ego or satisfaction

They are mostly a necessity vehicle

[nova estuary]

Sliding doors are so underrated honestly. Hypothetically, if minivans never existed and sliding doors first debuted on a new vehicle today, people would go crazy and consider it a luxury or high end thing.

They're also incredible for loading kids in and out of the car. Best family vehicle for sure

[kind osprey]

As a kid they always looked so cool

And they are only on vans and minivans ironically

[nova estuary]

The minivan stigma killed the sliding doors

[jagged sentinel]

Minivans still have sliding doors

They just aren't really worthwhile on anything else

Trucks and sedans obviously shouldn't have them, SUVs don't have the second row space for a sliding door to be any more advantageous than a regular door not to mention some of them are higher off the ground so a regular door provides more leverage...

Work vans like transits do have them

[sage roost]

Minivans also have no business being that fast

been in a sienna the other day and that thing hauls

[jagged sentinel]

But the more Brutish ones like E-Series Ford vans don't have them because E-Series are supposed to be a cheaper, fleet option

Plus they regularly get the shit beat out of them so sliding doors would just be more trouble than they're worth

[jagged sentinel]

Hybrid systems go brr

[sage roost]

I don’t think it was a hybrid

regular ol sienna

[nova estuary]

V6 go brr

[kind osprey]

About half of the e series I see have sliding the other half have the duel doors

[kind osprey]

The old siennas are just built different

[jagged sentinel]

I only remember seeing either 2-door or the regular door ones

But you probably are right

[sage roost]

And the odysseys as well

[drowsy folio]

toyo tire blue tyres

[dire shard]

mfers talk about minivans like they're disgusting

asians pull up in the most decked out vip alphard: u wot

i just found an f80 on the wheels from the e92

not sure about it

[drowsy folio]

they're a bit small

[drowsy folio]

i wholeheartedly agree

[steady cove]

Ugy

[obtuse urchin]

That lip

[loud spade]

All those scratches

[drowsy folio]

i was gonna say smth about the head pillow but then realised it's rhd

[dire shard]

bmw driver

[sterile kayak]

Cool wheels on a cool car

Except the damage

[sage roost]

I don’t like the normal e92 wheels

the competition wheels go hard tho

[dire shard]

style 260 hater

i am a style 313 enjoyer

[hybrid charm]

sliding doors r easier to open aswell

[sage roost]

https://youtu.be/XvBH8jTv9EQ

destroked N55 with 9k rpm

sounds like a 2J lmao

[jagged sentinel]

The most interesting day I've had at work is watching someone else's day get ruined. Funny how that works sometimes

[sage roost]

is blud okay

[kind osprey]

You can't park there

[drowsy folio]

was definitely listening to DragonForce

[loud spade]

That looks hot

[jagged sentinel]

Door was open when I found it, which couldn't have been more than a few minutes after it started

I think he was able to get out, thankfully

[jagged sentinel]

[kind osprey]

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2000-corbin-sparrow-3/

holy shit it's the goldmember car

[sage roost]

is that a modern peel P50

[night steeple]

got to see a cybertruck in person, my god its huge, are average pickups this big in the US or is this just really big? its the size of our dump trucks lol

[willow barn]

all the cars in the us are stupid big

all the everything*

[night steeple]

big america

they also have a delorean on display, wonder why not park both stainless steel cars together

[dire shard]

do a flip !

[drowsy folio]

ya gonna go crazy when i tell you they still make those

[drowsy folio]

from the look of it it's not too much bigger than a land cruiser

[steady cove]

Wee

[kind osprey]

The cyber truck is actually slightly smaller than your average full sized pickup truck here

They can range anywhere from 230-250 inches

[kind osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/float-gif-22607999

[jagged sentinel]

And somehow performs worse in a crash

I mean I know why but like

[sage roost]

And more dangerous

Going to be tragic if someone gets ran over by one of these

[jagged sentinel]

That poor soul is getting divided by two

[kind osprey]

Yea idk how it past any safety tests

[jagged sentinel]

I don't think it did

[celest heron]

]\

[dire shard]

unveil him now!!!

😭 😭 😭

i wanna see modellista 86

[drowsy folio]

it's red

[hybrid charm]

Non-Gta, still can ask stuff abt Gta? Or.

If can.. Mk2 or Deluxo?..
I feel like Deluxo is better.. also it has 2 seats..
Mk2 is 1 seater..

[dire shard]

🤨 sir can you read what you just said again

[rich patio]

that 280 in the back is smexy

[sage roost]

Non-GTA is non-gta

lmao

[night steeple]

this engine is in a r34, with the smokey guys signature, I'm really confused as to what it is, it certainly doesnt look like an inline 6 with those air intakes, and whether the smokey sign is real or nah

[dire shard]

it's the century v12

smokey used that same engine for the top secret v12 supra

i have not watched this but it should explain everything https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey6p0QFQBsI

[night steeple]

ah that clears it up

[steady cove]

my mom

is so stubborn

i hate it

shes about to buy a series 1 for 40k

a 116D

diesel

she has a polo from 1998 with 98k kms

@dire shard

[dire shard]

omg

is she doc

wait doc had a 135i

also ... wtf why

[steady cove]

the sales man is blabbering shit out his mouth and my mom is gullible

😭

[dire shard]

😟

[steady cove]

the guy said the 116d costed 47k new

and is making a discount for my mom

and selling it for 38k

"discout"

[dire shard]

stop her now

[steady cove]

IM TRYINGG

BUT THEN SHE ASKED A FRIEND OF HERS THAT WAS SUPOSEDLY "KNOWLEDGABLE"

AND THE MF TOLD HER TO BUY IT

LOWKEY ANNOYING ASS

[dire shard]

it's over 😔

[steady cove]

I EVEN CREATED A POST OR THE LOCAL REDDIT AND EVERYONE IS SAYING ITS A SCAM LMFAO

she said that my friends opinions dont matter 💀

holy shit

im going insane

whole public forum bro

[dire shard]

good luck

its so over

[onyx rivet]

my sincere condolences

[steady cove]

https://www.reddit.com/r/AutoTuga/comments/1d0gnnb/carro_novo_até_40000/

😭 (this is not advertizing btw pls dont like or anything, just read)

[dire shard]

its so over

mazda3 hatch recommendation is good, space is just tiny inside

i don't think any f40 116d is worth that much

[steady cove]

alot of ppl recomended that one

but imho its ugly as

and mom doesnt like the looks

[dire shard]

wtf

mazda hater

[steady cove]

the bmw does look good

[dire shard]

no way

wtf

[steady cove]

but like everyone said

[dire shard]

1 series enjoyer

[steady cove]

its ass

[dire shard]

deceased

[steady cove]

unless its like a 20i or a 18i

since it cant be diesel either

the polo is from 1998 and it only has 98k kms

[dire shard]

if it can't be a diesel why is this even a consideration

[steady cove]

BECAUSE MY MOM IS BRAINSDEAD

[dire shard]

why is she breaking her own criteria

[steady cove]

she doesnt have a criteria

honeslty none of us understand alot about cars

[dire shard]

isn't it being non-diesel a criteria

[steady cove]

But i did minimal research

she doesnt even know the difference between diesel and gas its infuriantinfg

[dire shard]

is the criteria not a sporty, presumably 3 door hatchback that is not diesel, hybrid, or electric

[steady cove]

then instead of listening to me that actually researched about it, she just goes by what she likes

[steady cove]

5 door gasoline would be best

WHICH IS POSSIBLE

BUT SHE WANTS THAT CAR SPECIFICALLY BCS SHE THINKS IT COSTS 47k

WHICH IT DOES, DONT GET ME WRONG... OF USELESS EXTRAS

https://configure.bmw.pt/pt_PT/configure/F40/7M71/FLCRS,P0300,S01AG,S01CB,S01Y2,S0230,S0249,S02PA,S02TF,S02VB,S02VC,S0313,S0320,S033B,S03BE,S03M2,S03MF,S0420,S0423,S0428,S0430,S0431,S0493,S04GQ,S04P2,S0544,S0548,S0552,S0563,S05A1,S05AC,S05AQ,S05DA,S05DM,S0654,S0676,S06AE,S06AF,S06AK,S06C3,S06NW,S06S3,S06U2,S06WD,S0704,S0710,S0711,S0715,S0754,S0760,S0775,S07E8,S07M9,S07NX,S0845,S0889,S08KB,S08R3,S08R9,S08S3,S08TF,S08WD,S08WL?initialConfigId=4rg0y7jh

[dire shard]

bros giving you a 10k discount, does she not think thats sus

he wants that shit gone

[steady cove]

[dire shard]

because nobodys buying it because nobody wants a 116d because the 116d is poopy butthole

i dont know small european cars

maybe peugeot has something to offer

[steady cove]

this is a car thats cheaper and a suv.

[dire shard]

this is a case where i'd scirocco but that's 3 door

[steady cove]

i rlly liked the formentor

she wants a brand new car

it has to be brand new for some reason

[dire shard]

cupras are funny i know jack about them

[steady cove]

alot of ppl recomended it to me on reddit

[dire shard]

probably just because she doesn't want to inherit an abused car's problems, it's normal

[steady cove]

mom liked the shooting breaks from peugeot

but i doubt they fit on the garage

[dire shard]

same i like them too

[steady cove]

except this is not adviseable

why is there not a gas only option

[sage roost]

Cupra is nice tbf

that’s.. all I know about it

[steady cove]

https://www.mcoutinho.pt/carros/novos/peugeot-308-sw

this one seems nice

manual and gasoline

[dire shard]

whats wrong with a hybrid

[steady cove]

29k is steep tho

[steady cove]

she doesnt like the idea of having to charge a car

[sage roost]

there is a mild hybrid tho

[dire shard]

you don't charge a hybrid

[sage roost]

where the car itself does the charging

[steady cove]

you dont charge it?

[dire shard]

you charge a plug in hybrid

there are different types of hybrids

on the other hand this is a 1.2k cc engine

wtf

[sage roost]

poor over stressed engine

wait there’s a Leon cupra wagon

looks nice

Icl

[steady cove]

this is so confusing

[steady cove]

thats normal on this price range i think

havent found a car with an engine higher than 1.5 cc yet

[dire shard]

i'm from a land with bigger cars, i'm not familiar with these tiny numbers

but if your car isn't fuel-hungry to begin with, a hybrid system doesn't do much to improve your economy and just adds weight

[sage roost]

Hybrid = car does the charging, you don’t charge
Plug-in hybrid = you charge up the battery by plugging in a cable, hence “plug-in”

[steady cove]

whats the difference then

just that?

[sage roost]

mhm

plug in hybrid have an “EV” only mode

[steady cove]

surely the normal hybrid uses more gas or something tho no?

[sage roost]

afaik

[dire shard]

i think plug-in hybrids can typically be operated completely fully-electric

[steady cove]

ahhhh

[sage roost]

not that much of a difference, no

[steady cove]

the normal hybrids only get help of an electric engine

[dire shard]

the engine kicks in whenever you go into sport mode/step on it hard/run out of electric range

[steady cove]

this one seems nice

and a nice price aswell

[dire shard]

i do think this won't cover the sporty bit of the criteria

[steady cove]

130cv is alot

seeing how she found 110 from the bmw enough

lol

[sage roost]

if you’re concerned about gas the hybrid version does make a difference compared to regular gasoline

not that much of a price bump as well

[dire shard]

well, sporty means different things for different people
it's not necessarily about the power but also about the handling tuning, but if all one does is step on the gas to get up the ramp, will they care

best advice is to test drive

you will know if it suits you by driving it

i know fuck about peugeots other than the fact that they have a gti performance trim

[steady cove]

shes 40, everything that goes over 150km is sporty

[dire shard]

only 40

[steady cove]

real

[dire shard]

there are a lot of options for tiny hatchbacks if she was willing to buy used

[sage roost]

in contrast, my dad took delivery of a ‘22 Tahoe for his manager

[dire shard]

i don't know about new options

[steady cove]

no it cant be used

even new cars from standvirtual she hates

insanity

[sage roost]

I think it’s a great deal

RST Tahoe for $50k, 10k miles

[dire shard]

insane, visit cupra, good luck

[sage roost]

Service history and everything

[steady cove]

my mom would kill a family of 7 with a tahoe

[dire shard]

fiesta

[steady cove]

omg

[dire shard]

too bad, It's kill.

[steady cove]

i think my mom doesnt want the bmw anymore after i showed her the peugeot

[dire shard]

omg

[steady cove]

might be a blessing

[dire shard]

who knows, maybe the peugeot is its own scam

[steady cove]

i ll ask the guys in reddit

reddit has helped me sm over all of this

[dire shard]

m'lady tips fedora

[steady cove]

i actually also liked the bmw before i went and posted about our experience

[sage roost]

For one, it’s French

[dire shard]

i didn't want to say that

[sage roost]

my aunt had a 90s 206

it went to hell and back to say the least

[steady cove]

thats a solid point tbh

[dire shard]

the new ones should be fine

[steady cove]

cant trust the french

[dire shard]

should be

[sage roost]

honestly, read long term reviews of the recent Peugeots

see if there’s any problems

especially with the engine

[dire shard]

i can't believe you're both mazda 3 haters

it's a travesty

tragedy

tra

ungh

zzz

[sage roost]

I did not say that

[dire shard]

fish and fish mom hate the mazda 3

honestly horrified

potentially offended

[sage roost]

I would take the Mazdaspeed 3 in a heartbeat tbh

[dire shard]

same

shame it doesn't exist anymore

mazda plz

hi mazda, when???

[steady cove]

sorry its not the engine, its just the model

it looks ass

[dire shard]

fake

nobody on earth dislikes the mazda 3 appearance

[steady cove]

...

[dire shard]

sex

[steady cove]

not to talk about the slightly out of touch interior

almost every car in the 30k ish zone has many screens, this one looks like a 2010 bmw

[dire shard]

the sexy interior

only issue is its tiny inside

[dire shard]

so ... bmw when it was good

[dire shard]

peak bmw

[haughty sail]

What y’all talking about?

[dire shard]

alien space ships

[steady cove]

i love how much alike they look

[haughty sail]

I love them.

[steady cove]

so good

[haughty sail]

Alien space ships = best vehicle

[dire shard]

car people love analog gauges

mazda still making them is just seggs

who wants twenty ipads in their car anyway

[haughty sail]

6 year olds

[dire shard]

gimmie handcrafted analog gauges

physical ass shit

[steady cove]

the 308 sw for comparison

(same price and age)

[dire shard]

looks ass

[steady cove]

ofc

lmao

tianmi u stink

[dire shard]

no

mazda hater

[haughty sail]

Miata is the 2nd best car ever made

Except Porsches.

[dire shard]

if interior tech/being a gauge hater is a big deal, you might actually keep looking into 1 series hatchbacks

just not the 116d

modern bmw loves tech

the f40 gen is.................. not that bad looking from any angle that isn't in front

[haughty sail]

L take

[dire shard]

f40 generation 1 series bmw, not f40 ferrari

[haughty sail]

Thought u meant that

[dire shard]

i aint!!

[haughty sail]

I now understand

[sage roost]

yeah, I was looking at a “sporty” hatchback for me to haul my friends around for uni

I was looking between the GTI, veloster and focus ST

completely forgot about mazdaspeed lmao

I think all 3 options are terrible unreliable vehicles but it is what it is

[dire shard]

the veloster is fine

[steady cove]

gte

[dire shard]

i just think the door situation isn't as funky as they thought it would be

[steady cove]

has more hp

and its more economical

!!

mom doesnt like those

she says its a kids car

even tho some cost more than her budget

whatever

[dire shard]

she wants a 1 series hatchback

is she ok

[steady cove]

ikr

i would honestly love to see a gti or a gte for her

but she doesnt want another vw

[dire shard]

scirocco dreams dashed...

[steady cove]

even tho the polo is like, the most reliable car of the whole family

has 100k km and only broke once

like a 120e repair

[sage roost]

I’ve spoke to ST owners and they all said it’s quite ok reliability wise

[dire shard]

now the gti ... will eat your wallet alive 😈 😈 😈

i have the funky 5 cylinder volvo 3 door hatchback from twilight

the chassis is shared with i think the fiesta of the timeperiod, but the engine is volvo's

never had a problem aside from the steering lock that apparently happens due to the age of the vehicle that volvo did away with in the next model year

[sage roost]

only GTIs in fitting budget are the golf 6s

golf 7 GTI is a tad more expensive than the other options

[dire shard]

that's fine

in fact i think the 5 is very very popular

you aren't out of date yet

[sage roost]

only issue with these cars, which can steer me away from them just to then get a Corolla

insurance is most likely more expensive than regular cars

[dire shard]

just get a corolla

gr corolla intensifies

[sage roost]

I do not have GR Corolla money

[dire shard]

dang

[sage roost]

just get an 08 Camry hybrid

that thing is speedy

I cannot lie

like very speedy for what it is

[dire shard]

the truth is, you do have gr corolla money - just not enough for the 2.5x markup 😭

[sage roost]

if I did have GR Corolla money I wouldn’t be looking at used golf 6s

:)

[dire shard]

😔

i have gt86 money but i have to choose between tofu car or college tuition

[sage roost]

Who needs college

what about the Nissan Z

Fuck the other 3 friends anyway

[dire shard]

nissan z

you mean the 370z body kit

/s

[sage roost]

the 09-10 370s go for less than the GTIs

and they’re in decent condition tbf

[dire shard]

your insurance rates 📈

your fuel costs 📈

[sage roost]

exactly why I’m considering a Camry as plan B

or plan… whatever

[dire shard]

be like epik

select the sensible accord

[sage roost]

Ye he has an accord

[dire shard]

... 3.0 v6

[sage roost]

the 08 Camry hybrid has 187 hrsprs

definitely feels more than that

[drowsy folio]

golf 6 ain't too bad

[kind osprey]

Be me, spend $1200 at the mechanics last week

Granted it won't need much of anything else now but thay was a bitch

I got the car for so cheap that I'm probably still even on it at least

[mint plank]

https://www.reddit.com/r/WarshipPorn/s/JWrrIFJoJi

❤️

[jagged estuary]

@vestal garnet https://youtube.com/shorts/txNfATT7v9g?si=W4u2xmXGtBElyTb0

[mint plank]

@pine relic 🇬🇧

[drowsy folio]

why am i reading that as "aggressive guzzler"

they're not that bad for fuel right??

[jagged sentinel]

https://www.motor1.com/news/721057/toyota-build-more-gasoline-gr-cars/

Toyota W

[sage roost]

inb4 3x markup

[dire shard]

toyota when they forget they can tell dealers to stop fucking around

at least subaru members

[steady cove]

3hp

[drowsy folio]

toyo tire blue tyres

[night steeple]

saw on facebook there's a polished cybertruck, I kinda dont hate it lmao, imagine the sun reflecting that into everything it drives by

maximum elonmuskery

[dire shard]

real elonmaxxing

[sage roost]

So basically a chrome cybertruck

[night steeple]

yes, a chrome cybertruck
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1939836749567520/permalink/3659460820938429/

[sage roost]

oh my god

[sage roost]

RIP Porsche 911’s analogue gauges
1963-2024

[dire shard]

rip porsche's analogue turbos

[kind osprey]

Whyyyy

[onyx rivet]

I FUCKEN KNEW IT

i knew they would do that

this is why i really, really dislike facelifts

the 911s having at the very least an analogue tachometer was their selling point

[sage roost]

wait so

the hybrid is only on the carrera GTS

the regular Carreras still have the pre-existing 3.0L F6

[onyx rivet]

thats what I understand it as, yeah

[sage roost]

I’m excited for the turbo S tbh

more power without a major weight penalty

https://x.com/fia/status/1795459016304320866?s=46&t=DtvhcdCG8ywUmGuotpX6QA

FIA (@fia) on X

Welcome back, Lancia 🫶

The most successful manufacturer in the FIA World Rally Championship history just announced its return to rallying, in the Rally4 category.

#FIA #WRC @officialwrc

Twitter · May 28, 2024, 2:16 PM

wait…

[dire shard]

wait

[static gale]

[drowsy folio]

that's a nice citroen you have there

[dire shard]

speaking of citroen who the fuck approved the cactus

[night steeple]

the weird bubble shaped crossover? idk looks like what citroen would make

french cars be frenchin'

[drowsy folio]

agreed

i wonder how crazy rally would be today if lancia never left

[dire shard]

the one wrapped in black bubble wrap

it's dumb

fck it

[drowsy folio]

no silly it's imanitech armour>:(

[kind osprey]

This takes at least 2 rpgs to blow up

Like the other armored cars on the dealer sites

[drowsy folio]

hehehe

[sage roost]

https://www.ddinstagram.com/reel/C7lbajrC20B/?igsh=cDUxZjFvYWh3b2Iz

Porsche testing the GT2RS

Bout to shatter records

[onyx rivet]

https://youtu.be/Hjgw9D62Zgc?si=lJseBC9KP8yHDEPm

[dire shard]

new chiron paint scheme dropped