transportation

[steady cove]

*gifs

not skulls

[kind osprey]

You're frkm Europe so you probably have TVR's where you live

Those cars are a similar style to the viper

[dire shard]

tbh that kid with the viper in that first fnf was p good

didn't die immediately

we take those

[steady cove]

we dont have money like the average us user

best sports car ur buying here is a

celica

lol

[kind osprey]

Most Americans can't afford a TVR either

They are fun though

[dire shard]

most americans can't afford a sports car either

[kind osprey]

The old one was basically the British Viper

[dire shard]

you're selecting a subgroup of people who can afford cars and generalizing it to the entire population

most of these kids are buying celicas at best, too

[steady cove]

no im just saying that americans have better funds to generally actually own a sports car compared to europeans

which is true

[kind osprey]

The most dangerous sports car is just anything from the 1960's probably

I would love a Carrera gt but if I magically recieved one today I wouldn't drive it for a solid 6 months

The car is not something you can hop in and learn, thay clutch is EXPENSIVE

Imagine breaking anything in that car lol

[steady cove]

a

[dire shard]

be like jardon and buy a focus 😎

[kind osprey]

YES

[dire shard]

"jardon why'd you buy a focus?" mfer shows up in a cgt next year

[kind osprey]

Captain Sparklez Mentioned 🗣🗣🗣

[steady cove]

then why are these cars considered dangerous

🪱

[kind osprey]

The cgt?

[steady cove]

no

the drugs

the carrera gt and the 90s vipers

[dire shard]

1: the people making those articles are clueless or sensationalizing their titles
2: comparatively to other cars of their era, the cars have fewer/no driver assistance or have a little more unsafe driving characteristics

[kind osprey]

It's considered because it is hard to drive and people flat foot like it's an awd car with full tsc

If you drive the cgt like a normal person and not like you have autopilot you'll do completely fine

[dire shard]

it's important to take this into context
people crash mustangs all the time, does that make the mustang an inherently dangerous car
no, it's just baby's first rwd v8, it's the cheapest car they can get with those specifications

[steady cove]

then they were dangerous because they were dangerous basically

[dire shard]

is "normal person" to you a vegetable

then sure

[kind osprey]

I was afraid to drive the gt3rs because it's rwd rear engine and very track focused but honestly that thing handled like a dream and my fear was wasted on it

The same thing would probably happen if I drove a cgt

[steady cove]

most "normal person" persons dont know how to handle a sports car i think

[dire shard]

womp womp skill issue

[kind osprey]

If you drive a Porsche like an idiot it will kill you

[dire shard]

not the car's fault

[steady cove]

not that they are vegies

they just dont know

[kind osprey]

But that is any performance car

[dire shard]

would you say normal people can drive a jeep

[steady cove]

but then wouldnt other cars also be considered dangerous

[dire shard]

yet jeeps are notorious for death wobble

[steady cove]

other cars that are also dangerous

not just those two

[kind osprey]

If you want a supercar anyone car drive get an r8 or a Huracan. You'd have to be a tier 3 dumbass to crash a r8/Huracan

[dire shard]

i've never heard of people saying that only the cgt and viper are dangerous cars

[kind osprey]

They are comfy and awd

[dire shard]

people have said the mr2 is a dangerous car

[kind osprey]

They practically drive themselves

[steady cove]

those are the only cars i ve heard openly that were dangerous

[kind osprey]

That is true to some extent

[steady cove]

the mr2?

[kind osprey]

The oversteer on the gen 2 mr2

[steady cove]

thats like

a miata on steroids and a motor on the back

[dire shard]

the mr2 is no more dangerous than any other mid engine sports car, it's just cheap and that low barrier of entry introduces severe skill issue

[steady cove]

motorcycle motor tright

well

[kind osprey]

Handling a sports car is the same way you should be handling a normal car. However you are correct since most normal peolle absolutely suck at driving

[steady cove]

i ve never heard anything about the mr2 beeing dangerous

[dire shard]

reallly

it's notorious for snap oversteer

which is a problem that affects all mid engine sports cars

[kind osprey]

Snap oversteer can cause the car to lose traction while letting of the gas and turning at higher speeds

[dire shard]

people just care about it on the mr2 more because you could buy one for like 5k

[steady cove]

aaaaaaaaaa im googling

[kind osprey]

Honestly I like oversteer more than understeer

[dire shard]

i see you're the type of person who doesn't want to see the tree that kills you

[steady cove]

then the mr2 is just considered dangerous because it was a mid engine car with rwd and people would lose control because they were basically entry level sports cars

hmmm

[kind osprey]

I get why most cars are weighted and tuned to be more inclined to understeer. Normal people can correct a pulling motion quicker than a sliding rear motion

[steady cove]

but the viper is not an entry level sports car

nor is the carrera gt

[dire shard]

the price has nothing to do with it

[steady cove]

do the rich old man not know how to drive

[kind osprey]

We explained this paragraph in more detail than Google for you

[dire shard]

price only correlates to how much it's reported because of the barrier of entry

[kind osprey]

Snap oversteer is the only factor people have trobule with

That only happens during bad road conditions

Track use

Etc

High speeds

Normal driving is fine

[dire shard]

for the viper and cgt, they're reported as dangerous cars because high profile people have crashed them

but the barrier of entry or who crashes doesn't have any bearing on why it crashes

[kind osprey]

Viper is dangerous tbf at least prior to 2008

The first gen is a funny car

No windows no top no nothing

[steady cove]

but other cars have been crashed more than those with high profile people, yet never heard about them beeing dangerous cars

like

the mclaren f1

[kind osprey]

Not many people have the privilege of crashing a Mclaren f1

[steady cove]

didnt mr bean total it like once and almost 3 more times

[kind osprey]

But now that you mentioned it

[dire shard]

mr bean foot hard 😎

[kind osprey]

The McLaren F1 is actually more raw to drive than a cgt

[dire shard]

how can you get a reputation of a car that's dangerous if nobody owns the car

[steady cove]

what is a cgt

[kind osprey]

The f1 is hard to drive fast

Carrera gt

[dire shard]

nobody can buy an f1

[steady cove]

my brain small sorry

[kind osprey]

If you drive a Mclaren F1 over 4000rpm be prepared to hit a wall

That thing is a race car built to be a road car

No abs no stability

[steady cove]

i d say that the fact that an experienced driver has crashed a car and totaled it once is more allarming than one crash by not so experienced drivers

[kind osprey]

Nada

[steady cove]

and a car known to be really good at handling none the less

[kind osprey]

They only made a little over 60 street legal f1's. They made over 1200 cgt's

[steady cove]

i guess that could also be blinded by the popularity of the car though

[kind osprey]

More people had a chance to crash them

[steady cove]

this topic is confusing

[kind osprey]

@dire shard also pointed out something

[steady cove]

not the topic, the lre

lore

[kind osprey]

The cgt paul walker was in had ba tires

[steady cove]

car lore is confusing

[kind osprey]

And they were going 100mph

On a public road

[steady cove]

i wasnt even taking in account paul walker really

anyone could have crashed

who it is should not matter when it comes to calling a car dangerous

what matters should be the number of deaths per crash

it should be based of statistics

not importance of who died

which is why it confuses me

well

taking that in account i d guess that these cars are always gonna be more dangerous than normal cars right

because having a sports car will increase average speed of the car per driver, which would then result in more deaths per accident

[dire shard]

with that logic, the most dangerous car in the world is a civic or corolla

maybe a jeep or crv

rav4 most dangerous car in the world 🗣️

[steady cove]

not really

well

think with my dumb brain

sports cars tend to be better taken care of and have more experienced owners, which means fewer low mortality crashes (like say hitting a parked car)

while that is true the probability of a fatal crash will be greater than the probability of a non fatal crash

while a civic

will probably crash alot with a lower mortality rate

since those cars tend to be owned by first drivers and not as experienced drivers

[dire shard]

have more experienced owners
hehe

[steady cove]

hehe

[dire shard]

(it aint the true)

[steady cove]

well i said tend

sometimes that isnt true

but its more true than otherwise

[dire shard]

i don't think so

it's hard to say, but the barrier of entry to buying any car is merely the price

and somebody who is interested in a nice car, is not necessarily somebody who is experienced at driving nice cars

i don't think that trend, while it seems plausible, can be proven to be a significant factor

[steady cove]

well

do you think sports cars or exotic cars crash more than normal cars?

[dire shard]

no

[steady cove]

then,

that doesnt include the mortality rate yeah

[dire shard]

i worked in automotive for a little bit, the most damage you see is on regular cars owned by people who don't give a shit

[steady cove]

but that makes the comparison wayyyyy too obvious if you think about it

[steady cove]

yeah that means that regular cars have more non fatal crashes

which is a fact

well then

lets also add this logic

the average sports car is arguably faster on the road than a regular car right.

[dire shard]

don't you make the assumption that somebody who owns a sports car is, on average, always flouting the speed limit and going faster than regular traffic in order to cause a fatal accident

[steady cove]

im not ass uming anything

this is all thought on probabilities

and it is true that a higher hp car will averagely go faster on urban roads than a regular car

or do u not think it is

[dire shard]

i don't think so

[steady cove]

grr

[dire shard]

the car is not driving itself

[kind osprey]

I can assure you, the owners are not experienced, the only thing they are experienced with it using a credit card to pay it off

[steady cove]

i think if the car drove itself it would be better controlled than if humans did

since legally it would always been in the speed limit

[dire shard]

oh yes, it would be absolutely 100% controlled

controlled into the nearest grandma wearing black crossing the street

[steady cove]

well that depends

yall should seriously allow gifs in this channel.

im going insane.

[kind osprey]

Autopilot has existed since computers have existed, the reason why it isn't used in mass and normal yet is because driving has so many variables and surprise factors that make it nearly impossible up until recently

[wanton comet]

why is Karin Asterope GZ 460k its literally a 2008 corolla wtf

[steady cove]

what i mean is that an ai controlled car would always be under the speed lim it while the average human has gone off the speed limit multiple times

[dire shard]

please into #gta-vehicles

[steady cove]

if it were perfect ofc

it isnt

[kind osprey]

that honestly is the least of my worries when it comes to self driving benefits

[steady cove]

thats a worry?

lol

[kind osprey]

I'd much rather have a driver going double the speed limit than a driver half asleep swerving into my lane

100%

[dire shard]

would it count as a fatal accident if my autonomous car ran over the kids because the car was too tall to see them

[kind osprey]

lol

[steady cove]

it would count as a strike

[dire shard]

ten points to escalade

[kind osprey]

Self driving benefits are more productivity, and safer in terms of human error.

drunk and fatigued driving etc

[steady cove]

im still think im right

[kind osprey]

most speed limits here are slow as shit, they are mere suggestions

[steady cove]

do you think theres a google study that says if im right or wrong

[kind osprey]

about what specifically

because i agree self driving cars would be safer in the future

I just think speed isn't my biggest concern

[sage roost]

It had the tyres that came with the car in 2005

[dire shard]

at least in the case of america, many speed limits were never introduced to control dangerous accidents anyways
they were introduced to limit gas consumption in like, the 70s - and then continued on today

[kind osprey]

distracted drivers and fatigued drivers are

by a country mile

over speeders

[sage roost]

basically recipe for disaster

[steady cove]

do you believe me now @dire shard

[dire shard]

no

[sage roost]

8 year old tyres on a car with no driver aids

[steady cove]

ihy

[kind osprey]

@dire shard What is this reffering to?

[dire shard]

why would you show me google results without showing me statistics or their experimental method

her theory is that sports cars end up in fatal crahes more often as a result of speed

[steady cove]

bcs it says what i say!

well not only speed

[kind osprey]

also self driving cars would make it take longer to get places in some circumstances, and much faster to get places in others

[steady cove]

but speed is probably the major reason on public roads ofc

[kind osprey]

When I was driving from Miami to orlando I was averaging almost 200 Kilometers per hour

[dire shard]

guys im gonna die, the brz is here...

[kind osprey]

because the highway was empty

[steady cove]

💀

[kind osprey]

a self driving car going the speed limit would make me get there in double the time

[steady cove]

what is a mitsubishi mirage

[kind osprey]

of course the shitty mirage is first

[kind osprey]

an absolute piece of shit overpriced compact car

[dire shard]

who would have thought, the cheapest car you could buy in america is on top

[steady cove]

does the car explode when it crashes what the fuck lmfao

[kind osprey]

the mirage makes the Yaris look like a Roll fucking Royce

[kind osprey]

it's a tin can on tricycle wheels

[dire shard]

the mirage is like 10k new, its purpose is just to get you into a car and nothing else

[steady cove]

its mostly sports cars tho!

[kind osprey]

$16k-$18k

at least here

overpriced hunk of shit

I'd rather drive a Chevy Nova

lmao

[dire shard]

there are 5 sports cars here, and a couple of them don't make significant power

i don't even want to call them sports cars

[steady cove]

well

they handle better than the average corolla

[dire shard]

no, they don't

[steady cove]

yass they do

[dire shard]

for a regular person, the average corolla drives safer than a brz

[kind osprey]

a brz and a corolla are about the same in terms of grip

the "sports car" is a myth

[steady cove]

but a brz handles better!

[kind osprey]

it just looks cooler

[steady cove]

also the brz sucks

[dire shard]

what sports car, it's just a coupe economy car

[dire shard]

https://tenor.com/view/nuke-tsar-this-bomb-is-km-near-your-house-this-tsar-is-km-near-your-location-tactical-nuke-gif-11684907231419731833

[kind osprey]

turns better sure because it weighs less but it has horrible grip

so the driver may slip more

than if he/she were in a corolla

[dire shard]

the owner of a brz is probably going to buy decent tires, at least

[steady cove]

well the brz is an odd one

[dire shard]

so it'll be fine

[kind osprey]

the first thing to do when buying a brz is slap 235's on it

minimum

[dire shard]

hell yeah

ps4s

[steady cove]

bcs its sucha low power car but i bet so many people crash it non fataly

sucha

such a low

[dire shard]

but fish, the study you brought up straight up says it's the sixth most frequent occupant fatality

[kind osprey]

200hp in something that light can still easily kill you if you got the thrill of a methhead on ice

[steady cove]

makes no sense if you ask me

[steady cove]

yeah but more people probably crash it a driving slow or lower speeds than highers speeds

[dire shard]

also consider exactly what a fatal accident means
these aren't necessarily people going fast in a straight line and crashing into something or into another car, it could be someone spinning out or flying off a cliff 😎 gta style

[steady cove]

unless they ve been watching too much anime and try to touge with no experience whatsoever

[kind osprey]

technically in terms of fatal accidents, anything over 100 kilometers per hour or 60mph is a high speed

[steady cove]

something i see tianmi doing as soon as he gets the same exact car

[kind osprey]

that car goes 0-60 in 6 seconds

maybe 7

[dire shard]

this study does not specify percentages of cause of death, only that they are all dead

[dire shard]

nah i'm better ong

[kind osprey]

built different

[steady cove]

tianmi is gonna make the mitsubishi mirage look small on the table

[kind osprey]

Eve ate the apple, and we got the Mitsubishi Mirage

[steady cove]

and im gonna make the polo go up to the table

[dire shard]

im gonna pick up one of these used brzs that someone died in

[steady cove]

idk why im talking

[kind osprey]

used, lightly scratched

[steady cove]

blood on the driver seat

[kind osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/john-smith-yo-mama-kys-tide-gif-14378780

[steady cove]

"slightly used" (whole back end ripped off)

[kind osprey]

it'll buff out

$14,000 firm I know what i got

[steady cove]

sob

[kind osprey]

Thanks google, for the completely inaccurate information

geez I feel bad for someone trying to look something up on a search engine about a niche topic

for cars I noticed it's always wrong unless you dig and dig

[dire shard]

it's such a pain when you're trying to look up chemical or medical information

[kind osprey]

i could imagine

forced induction is crazy

back then 500hp was insane

and now $40,000 cars are pushing that out of 4 cylinders

wtf happened lmao

[steady cove]

Or 3

Love the corolla gr

[kind osprey]

I know only of one 3 cyldiner that makes a shit ton but that is Koenigsegg, so they are batshit insane

but the 3 cylinder is becoming more and more common

it's the new 4 cylinder in a way

[steady cove]

I like the 3cyl more than the 4cyl

[kind osprey]

in what way

[steady cove]

3cyl is close to the 5 in my mind

[steady cove]

I just like it

[kind osprey]

so like the sound of it?

[steady cove]

Its so cute

Yet so versetile

Theres also some really good 4cyl engines

But something about the 3 just

[kind osprey]

versetile in everything except torque, but if you are making a sporty car that is light it's fine

[steady cove]

Makes it better

[steady cove]

Well yeah makes sense

But its still cool!

Only thing i dont like about the 3cylinder

[kind osprey]

Modern engines can come in so many different arrangements now, you mentioned the 5 cylinder

[steady cove]

Is that every lauch of it costs more than the lower end v12 used car

[kind osprey]

they couldn't make a mass market 5 cylinder until the early 1980's

it didn't really exist

carburetors made it almost impossible

[steady cove]

They should just have a i4 on the front and a one stroker in the back

[dire shard]

GR's g16e-gts makes 100 per cylinder
that's probably the next best thing next to the TFG, but it's mass produced instead of limited production

[steady cove]

Would rip

Call it the mid front engine

Mid front end

Or front mid end

Front back

[kind osprey]

That sounds like a very interesting way to set money on fire with lighter fluid

[steady cove]

The power distribution would be

80 20

[dire shard]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/751078063491645471.gif?size=40

[steady cove]

Thats the worst gen tt

Im so sorry if you disagree

[kind osprey]

That sounds similar to front mid engine

[steady cove]

It looks like a vw beetle

[kind osprey]

That is the car you want though

[steady cove]

Thats just long cars

[kind osprey]

it has 2 engines

[steady cove]

They stole my name idea

[steady cove]

No way

[kind osprey]

a honda s2000 is like the size of a new miata

[steady cove]

Ugly

[steady cove]

Yeah but its like

Mostly hood

I ve seen one irl its rlly good looking

Much lower than i thought

Its lower than me

And im like

2cm

[kind osprey]

it's not, a 2.0 4 cylinder can fit in your arms, the hood is longer than your average eco car for weight distribution

but I wouldn't call it long

the 812 is long

[dire shard]

long ass hoods just look good, that's why i love the 812

[kind osprey]

the viper and slr are really long hoods

[dire shard]

amg gt

sls

[kind osprey]

to the point where they can hinder your visibility

[dire shard]

when half the car is hood

[steady cove]

Someone also made a vw lupo with two 2.0 engines if im not mistaken

[kind osprey]

sls is decent, long but nowhere near as bad as the slr I think

the slr was obnoxiously heavy and long

I think the only thing that saved the slr for visability was that the hood slopes down a bit

[steady cove]

Well its long compared to the rest of the car

[kind osprey]

I think they did all this just to make like 600hp, and it costs $500,000

[steady cove]

Like compare it to a miata

The miata is almost the same

But it has a smaller hood

[dire shard]

it makes like, 750 or something

[steady cove]

And the thing is more to the back

The driver cabin?

[steady cove]

Is that what its called

Odk

Sideways comparison

[dire shard]

the nd is almost the same size as the na, i think it's incredible

[steady cove]

Need to see the whole car

Grrr

[kind osprey]

a new car that light, it has my respect fr

[kind osprey]

is the miata front mid engine?

ik the first gen had the engine really far back

the 4th cylinder had oil/cooling issues

[dire shard]

would you say

[kind osprey]

damn

That's borderline it ngl

[dire shard]

nearly there

close enough

[kind osprey]

yea

[steady cove]

The miata is long ish too

Tbh

Mimi do it for you looking cars

[kind osprey]

they are shaped like eco sports cars

[sage roost]

slightly bigger Miata

[kind osprey]

lol

[dire shard]

every time i see an s2000, it's this that gets me

what hood

[steady cove]

Yeah like

[dire shard]

hood is so low

[steady cove]

How to change a wheel

Oh wait

Thats just me

[dire shard]

it's not that hard

[kind osprey]

That must make visibility excellent

[dire shard]

yeah it does

[steady cove]

The hood is like

[sage roost]

if only there’s any S2000s or Miatas for sale here

[steady cove]

In the car

[sage roost]

that aren’t in horrid conditions

[steady cove]

Not in the wheel

[sage roost]

I saw an NA automatic Miata for sale but it was for 5 grand

it’s rusted as shit

[steady cove]

Ew auto

[kind osprey]

It is jsut really low aftermarket suspension

[kind osprey]

That's insane

[steady cove]

Why do people like auto so much

[sage roost]

it was the only one available

lmao

apart from the new ND ones

[kind osprey]

non car enthusiasts and people who don't wanna deal with flicking tha knob

[steady cove]

Yeah this has nothing to do with what you said silly

[kind osprey]

most cars since the investion of the auto have been auto

[steady cove]

Just people in general prefer autos

[kind osprey]

it makes sense

[sage roost]

honestly the only cars that make sense for me to buy are like

FWD hatchbacks

[kind osprey]

if you are commuting and using the car solely as a to b and don't give a rats ass about the experience why not have less work

[steady cove]

Buy a

Golf

R

Golf rs are cool

[dire shard]

why do people like not pushing a heavy clutch every 30 seconds in congested traffic

🤔

[kind osprey]

lmao

[steady cove]

Its not that bad

You dont have to always hold the clutch

[sage roost]

easy leg day workout

[dire shard]

yeah could be worse, could be 20 seconds

[kind osprey]

is it on fire?

[dire shard]

left leg gonna be more jacked than right leg fr

[steady cove]

Right arm too

That sounds sussy

[kind osprey]

stalling on the freeway lol

[sage roost]

I found a good deal on a focus ST which was cheaper than the Miata I mentioned above

but

[dire shard]

we out here starting our own traffic jam

[sage roost]

it’s

1. A ford
2. 120k miles

nah

[steady cove]

I heard good things about the focus st

Would never buy one tho

[kind osprey]

yea small fords were not built tough, they were built like one use straws

[steady cove]

I just find ford cars ugly

[dire shard]

were fords ever built tough

found on road dead 💀

[kind osprey]

the ones that copied Aston Martin look pretty good

[sage roost]

everyone I know who bought a ford hasn’t had the best of experiences

[kind osprey]

but before that yea they looked kinda boring

[steady cove]

Those big ones? I agree

The ones with the mouth

I also kinda like the focus rs

[sage roost]

the fusion?

[kind osprey]

ford fusion coupe

[steady cove]

But at that price point i would never buy one

[sage roost]

TIL there’s a fusion “sport” with a twin turbo V6 and AWD

Seems fun tbh

[dire shard]

omw to buy one of these instead

[sage roost]

325hp which is more than enough

[kind osprey]

Ford is good at making boring ass sedans that will win against all normal traffic

[sage roost]

ye V8 vantages are so cheap

for what they are

[dire shard]

cheap to buy, not cheap to keep

[sage roost]

especially 2009-2010

[dire shard]

that's life

[kind osprey]

exactly

I want a 2013 vantage s

[dire shard]

but i'm so in

i love them

[sage roost]

British reliability ™️

[steady cove]

Not trusting british reliability

[sage roost]

like imagine telling people you own an Aston Martin

But it was cheaper to buy than a new Camry

[dire shard]

90% "are you jams bund"

[steady cove]

Are the most reliable cars asian?

[kind osprey]

idk if they go that low unless you get lucky or find something wrong with it

[dire shard]

yeah the most reliable car is the rx8

[kind osprey]

They used to be 30k in decent shape but I think they are like 40k now

[steady cove]

The rx8 is ugly

[kind osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/the-punisher-frank-castle-punisher-no-frank-castle-no-no-no-no-gif-24489266

[dire shard]

fuvck oyj

[sage roost]

Yeah, which is around the same price as a new Camry

[dire shard]

qdie

die

rx8 haters die

[steady cove]

The rx7 is cute

[dire shard]

fake

[kind osprey]

40k for a camry is cringe

[steady cove]

But the money is ugly

[kind osprey]

starter cars cost too much

[steady cove]

The rx8 looks goofy

Imo

Because

Its fat

[dire shard]

L opinion

[steady cove]

Why is it so fat

[dire shard]

today we learned that you can have a wrong opinion

[kind osprey]

rx8 is indeed a goofy fella

[sage roost]

just the other day I passed by a workshop that has an RX8

[dire shard]

wtf

[kind osprey]

rx7 is fucking art

[sage roost]

and what looks to be an S14

[kind osprey]

rx8 is uh

[dire shard]

two wrong opinions

[steady cove]

The rx7 is so slender and beautiful and cute

[sage roost]

I couldn’t tell exactly

[kind osprey]

the special cousin

[steady cove]

Then the rx8 is obese

Why

Why

[kind osprey]

Because it's more of a boring exo sports car with more practicality

like mix a brz with a Honda Element

and you get an rx8

[steady cove]

The whole engine was built around beeing sporty and brap brap brap

Grrrrr

[dire shard]

wrongest opinions on the internet

[steady cove]

Then they fart the fattest car of that era

[kind osprey]

brap brap (-$6,000) brap

[kind osprey]

they don't do that stock btw

but yea the braps can brap loud

[steady cove]

I know

Its probably cams

Isnt it

[dire shard]

what cams

[kind osprey]

cams?

[dire shard]

cams?

[steady cove]

Cammed cars make that type of noises

[sage roost]

cams?

[kind osprey]

mans?

[steady cove]

Idk im a female pls dont judge

[dire shard]

cams?

[kind osprey]

smac?

[dire shard]

amcs?

[sage roost]

I’m no mechanic but I don’t think dorito engines have cams

[dire shard]

this(that) -----------------^ ☝️⏫ ⬆️

[steady cove]

isnt camming a thing you add

[sage roost]

[sage roost]

cams are short for camshafts

[steady cove]

Oh so its the timing

Can you change the timing of an dorito engine

Am i about to invent cams

[kind osprey]

cams lobes are the spinny thingamahdohickies that tickle the valves to squirt fuel and rid of exhausts and stuff

the rotary engine does that just by spinning

[steady cove]

I know what the are

I just didnt know cams where short for camshafts

They are 2 sticks with little triangles

That make those hat thingies open

So the fuel and oxygen get in and it go boom

[kind osprey]

They are more like tunnels

[dire shard]

😴

[steady cove]

So a car eith changed camshafts its basically just either a modded camshaft or a different time?

[kind osprey]

I love the design of rotary's but they have their issues

[kind osprey]

There aren't any overhead cams to tune

[dire shard]

camshafts inherently change timing

because yk

the pistons

they're kinda attached to the camshaft

[steady cove]

Wait

So

Uh?

No

[kind osprey]

it's a spinning triangle on a big shaft. It is pretty impressive how little moving parts are in a wankel rotary

[steady cove]

They arent

The pistons are stuck to the big thing

Down below

[kind osprey]

the crank?

[dire shard]

cthulhu

[steady cove]

The camsl shaft isnt stuf to anything

It just slaps the hats

[sage roost]

https://www.ddinstagram.com/reel/Cr1zDm6A9Bs/?igsh=b21sY24zcjg4czhs

[kind osprey]

the cams are above the pistons

[sage roost]

shit it’s coming for me

(Slightly modified)

[steady cove]

It goes boing boing on the hats

Has nothing to do with pistons

[kind osprey]

"father, what have you done to me, release me at once"

[steady cove]

How do tou change the timing on that to make the engine sound like a fart tho

Because i know people do that to v8s

So they sound

Uhh

Idk

Slower

Is it like a modded cam shaft

[dire shard]

you can fuck up your cam to add chop

[kind osprey]

not slower necessarily, the chopy sound relies somewhat on what type of crank you are using

one crank is used mostly by heavy muscle and the other by high revving Euro's

This specific part confuses the shit out of me but after a youtube refresher i'll get it again

I just know one is like a Ferrari 458 and the other is like a Camaro

[steady cove]

Ohh

[kind osprey]

both v8's but very different sound characteristics

[steady cove]

So like

They change the lower thing

[kind osprey]

it comes like it from factory

[steady cove]

So the pistons all explode more at the same time

[kind osprey]

That would be an external combustion engine

[steady cove]

But i saw on tikton some said they added cams and a corvette sounding like those dragsters

[kind osprey]

The firing orders of pistons are usually very specific and depend on the amount of pistons and the engines balance

[steady cove]

It was like

Farting

[kind osprey]

because remember that the fast spinning motion is like a spinning washing machine, if it is off balance it will wobble like crazy and break

so an engine must be completely balanced

this is why 4 and 6 cylinders are very common

they have great balance without much effort

360 divided by 4 is 90

[steady cove]

Engines are confusing

I ll stick to youtube tutorials

[kind osprey]

360 divided by 6 is 60

these nnumber fit together well

but say you have a 14 cylinder

now that number would lead to much wackier math

that even i don't understand

so most people avoid that

[steady cove]

I think you would love to meet ruddi

[dire shard]

(we've met)

[kind osprey]

I've seen ruddi around

[steady cove]

Ruddi is banned from here

[dire shard]

skill issue

[kind osprey]

I remember as a kid looking at wikipedia for hours wondering why engines never came in v14's

and they just skipped to 16 cylinders

from 12

[dire shard]

wtf

as a kid i was on wikipedia reading about jets

😔

[steady cove]

Because they never thought of adding a 2 stroker on the back of a v12 car

Thats why

[kind osprey]

I only really focused on cars

I do like planes though

idk much about them

[dire shard]

don't worry about it

[steady cove]

Planes are cool

[dire shard]

i gave up once i realized flying the f22 was not in the cards of my life

[steady cove]

Theres that round engine

[kind osprey]

inline 7's and v14's are just not cool enough to join the xbox live party

[steady cove]

Its like a rotary but not really

[kind osprey]

they are cring babies

[kind osprey]

it's a round piston engine

I forgot the name tbh

[steady cove]

It hoes around

Its really cool

[kind osprey]

someone put one of those in a car btw

it looked wacky

[steady cove]

My school had a model showing it working

Like real sized

[kind osprey]

cool

[steady cove]

A whole airplane in the middle of the aviation part of the school

[kind osprey]

it should find jesus then

[steady cove]

And some of those that float

[steady cove]

Goes

Aa

[kind osprey]

[dire shard]

was it the railton

[steady cove]

We also had a cart zone

That school was so cool

I wana work there

Kart

Karting

[dire shard]

man, remember when people drove tubes

[kind osprey]

The big ahh Napier? I don't remember how many cylinders it had but I think it was just a normal formation

[dire shard]

(we weren't alive we don't)

[kind osprey]

it was like 23 liters though

something crazy like that

[sage roost]

I kept wondering why the fuck are there no V4s

[kind osprey]

oh it was a w12 apparently

how tf

[dire shard]

v4s lol

[steady cove]

Arent boxer engines like

V4s

But wider

[dire shard]

no theyre flat 4

[steady cove]

_4s

[kind osprey]

I kept saying v4 for cars that had inline 4's for a long time longer than i should have honestly lol

[dire shard]

boxers are 180 deg

[kind osprey]

it's a simple answer, they just cost more

[steady cove]

Yeah i know

Thats why i said _4s

Did you get my joke

[dire shard]

no

[steady cove]

Bcs

[dire shard]

can you explain it to the class

[steady cove]

V

[kind osprey]

flat 4

[steady cove]

Is the way the pistons look

[kind osprey]

I am having a stroke on the floor due to this joke

[steady cove]

In a flat4 the pistons look to the sides

So

_

_4

[dire shard]

i am having a 2 stroke, in fact

[steady cove]

Im literally so smart

They should let me rename that engine now

[dire shard]

fish4 engine

[steady cove]

No

Fish _4 engine

[kind osprey]

the flatter 4 (I hydraulic pressed your k20)

[dire shard]

it is very dangerous

[steady cove]

Im going eep

Bye guys

[dire shard]

e

[steady cove]

[kind osprey]

put a flat 2 motorcycle engine in a tube go kart and register it under the 25 year import law (I made it 3 weeks ago in my basement)

[sage roost]

some karts

Imagine going 100+ mph in a go kart

[kind osprey]

I saw someone on insta with one going 140mph

on just his neighborhood street...

people are fucking insane

[dire shard]

darwin award nominees select themselves

[kind osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/acceptance-speech-gif-22073216

[steel oar]

I accidentaly put a duolingo and cat picture there sorry

[sage roost]

nice car in the first pic

[steel oar]

Yes

[sage roost]

https://www.ddinstagram.com/reel/C6MUBcKRw3i/?igsh=cDQ5ZzQ1ZGVuanZv

wait

this doesn’t sound like a 4 cylinder 😰

[static gale]

Why am I on the back of V12 car?

[dire shard]

what the hell amadeus

[full prairie]

anyone gotta any wips to flex on here or no >

[manic flame]

i want

[onyx rivet]

Alpine A310
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpine_A310

not sure why that red one above has a Renault badge on it
im guessing because the Alpine brand didnt get enough exposure in that red A310's market so they just badged them as a Renault to get them moving from the dealerships

cool looking car

somewhat related to the DeLorean DMC12

[manic flame]

i saw it at this cool automotive event thing here in france a few years ago

theres another one this september, i cant wait ^^

[onyx rivet]

oh if the car is from France, then i guess they slapped on the renault badge because Alpine was simply a subsidiary of renault

[manic flame]

ya probably, they also had a bunch of A110s racing on the road course it was awsome

such a beauty

[remote yacht]

think i saw the blue one yesterday

or smth similar atleast

[remote yacht]

i want

[jagged estuary]

I like this

[remote yacht]

who doesnt

[jagged estuary]

Gen Alpha

[remote yacht]

lmaoo true

[jagged estuary]

Lol

[remote yacht]

or this

[remote yacht]

real

[manic flame]

the one on the right in the last pic is my dads

[remote yacht]

oh nice

[remote yacht]

used to have one of those aswell

[manic flame]

brabus b9 , N/A V6 very fun (i almost crashed it once)

[remote yacht]

well not this but a model similar to it lmfao

[manic flame]

when we popped the hood more ppl came to see us and ignored the vette xd

[steady cove]

Garage kitty

[steady cove]

Uglyahh amg

Easly the ugliest amg

[night steeple]

was watching the famous james bond bmw remote car chase
that scene coupled with that excessively 90s techno music

[kind osprey]

The cla is their compact first car buyer type car so it checks out

[kind osprey]

Egg

[remote yacht]

lmfaoo

[remote yacht]

hell nah

[dire shard]

i

no way

[kind osprey]

Can't believe I actually saw a 959 today

I'm shaking

[cedar jasper]

190E? hell yeah

[remote yacht]

hell yeah

[steady cove]

Ok then tell me an uglier one

[remote yacht]

the new amg gt

with a V4 💀

orrr the eqe

[steady cove]

A v4

I dont even need to ask anything else

[remote yacht]

yuuup

just like the c63

[steady cove]

V4s dont exist

Its an inline 4

[steady cove]

And they make more power than whatever this trash is

Also the amg gt has a twin turbo v8

The car ur talking about is the amg gt43

[steady cove]

Which still handles and looks better than this

Amg gt

Amg gt43

Dont even get me started on the cla amgs with the orange details

💀

This is stock.

[remote yacht]

ur talking abt the wrong car here

[remote yacht]

also v4s do exist

[steady cove]

This is the exact same car you photographed but the shooting break version

[steady cove]

On mercedes? 💀 surely

[steady cove]

This is a whole different car. Its the 2024 version cla. The one you showed is the 2020

[steady cove]

Same thing 😭 ok if you say so

Also ur point was that that one wasnt a "v4" (i4) as if the new clas werent 2.0 4cyl cars aswell

Which doesnt even hold a point since i said they were the worst LOOKING amgs (nothing to do with cylinders or engines)

Last time i saw a v4 was on motorcycles and really old cars (~1960-1970's)

I also think the porsche gr1 car also has a v-4 with like 900 hp

But thats it really

[kind osprey]

Some motorcycles and older cars have them but yea like 99% of 4's are either inline or flat

[kind osprey]

Gt1?

I don't remember a gr1 existing

[kind osprey]

Putting a 4 cylinder in this is goofy idc how fast it is

They need to cease doing this

[steady cove]

Group 1 cars

Those racing ones

It can also be caller gt1 i guess

[kind osprey]

OHHH

The new ones

Yea

Some of those cars have v4's

I thought you were referring to the Porsche gt1

[sage roost]

just saying the new CLE 53 has an i6

[steady cove]

No thats a different class im pretty sure

[sage roost]

While the CLE 63 has a 4 cylinder

literally Mercedes in 2024

[kind osprey]

That's goofy

Why would I spend $100,000+ for a sports car with the same sound as a new Nissan Versa

[steady cove]

Thats why we buy used

[dull folio]

new MB cars look so odd

even the AMG models

[sage roost]

modern Mercedes peaked with the GT black series

[steady cove]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGexp4R3v/

[cedar jasper]

the only thing i agree upon is the multimedia

everything else is straight ASS

source: i have a fiat 500

[sage roost]

Are you a woman perchance

[full prairie]

911 gt3rs by far the best car out there

1000%

[kind osprey]

NUH UH SUPRA FASTER

[static gale]

[onyx rivet]

this is eggxactly how people thought the 996 looked when it first came out

[onyx rivet]

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/first-look/820bhp-ferrari-12-cilindri-named-after-its-mighty-9500rpm-v12-engine

its a little odd but im sure i will get used to it

i dislike the name more

[dire shard]

life is a highway

[dire shard]

i don't care that much for the name, but these random black panels cheapens the look of the car for me

f12 and 812 are peak front engine ferrari for me, i'll probably hate everything else from this point on

so i'd have some bias

[steady cove]

The thumbnail spoils the joke

Dumb discord

[sage roost]

The F12 TDF especially was peak front engine Ferrari

[onyx rivet]

Nah its black on my unupdated phone client

Thats all Ferrari needs

[full prairie]

thats pritty cool

would be very clean in white

[cedar jasper]

12 cyllinders

😭

[sage roost]

if it got rid of the black it’s a very good looking Ferrari

argue with a wall

[full prairie]

agreed

yellow would also be pritty sick aswell

but to each there own opinion

[sage roost]

I think it will be customizable

Like the sf90 assetto fiorano

[cedar jasper]

just go to a good bodyshop

[jagged sentinel]

Ferrari won't like that

[sage roost]

wrap over it

[full prairie]

beautiful car

[full prairie]

what do yall think about the f40

best Ferrari in my opinion

by far

best classical car ever built for sureeeee

no doubt

🤣

[meager moth]

the f40 is beautiful ngl

[full prairie]

for sure

[meager moth]

i need one but im not spending 20 mil

lmao

[full prairie]

actually fr

[meager moth]

honestly a realistic dream car for me is the classicgt3rs

[full prairie]

omg yes

me too

[meager moth]

theres this one of one paint by bmw i neeeeeeeeed it

i gotta show u

[full prairie]

theyy are a true master piece

[full prairie]

wich one

show me

[meager moth]

its like a maroonish purple type color with this nice gold ish pearl in it

[cedar jasper]

deadmau5 incident

[jagged sentinel]

It's one of the greatest driver's cars that's for sure

Whether it makes the cut for "classic" or "classical" is up for debate, though

[sage roost]

Behold

The zonda civic

[onyx rivet]

actually doesnt look bad
honestly thought that was a honda lmdh car at first glance

[loud spade]

That’s such a wide front for a car like that

It’s almost flat too, not sure how aerodynamic that is

Good thing it’s not a real car

[quartz prawn]

i think ferrari said that youre not allowed to change the black trim on the headlights

[sage roost]

Oh no

well that ruined it for me

I’ll stick to not having a car Ty

[quartz prawn]

wow 😭 the black part isnt thaaat bad

id still take it over an sf90

[steady cove]

I was gonna buy a ferrari

But now that i know that i ll stick with my 1998 volkswagen polo

[quartz prawn]

i was gonna buy a 1998 volkswagen polo

[sage roost]

I’m joking lmao

my opinion doesn’t matter on Ferraris until I can afford to buy said Ferrari

[steel oar]

Volvo museum

[steady cove]

They are so cute

[hushed hearth]

I wish I owned the orange one

[loud spade]

I wish I owned the volvo

(They’re all volvos)

[restive storm]

I use to have an older Volvo front lift, I loved the thing but the motor seized up on me sadly

[vestal garnet]

https://youtu.be/LT7h6sUeUhU

[kind osprey]

This thing is ugly what the actual fuck were they smoking

[sage roost]

I disagree

I love how it looks

[static gale]

Only thing I don't like is that unibrow with the Ferrari emblem

[sage roost]

I spec’d it in the Ferrari website and ironically it looks good in any color that isn’t red

it’s so good looking in one of the shades of green

[manic flame]

got alot of work ahead of me

[old sedge]

When y'all travel by plane, would you fly with this plane if possible?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comac_C919

[steel oar]

Some cars from a car show in sweden

[static gale]

I don't see why not(?)

[kind osprey]

The duality of man

[dire shard]

thinking of the 365, probably

[onyx rivet]

its not bad
but it isnt good

at first glance the Roma is miles better but after staring at the Cylinder12 longer, i guess it has better details

if you pretend the black bits are painted like it should have been

[night steeple]

dont like the name, dont like the design, liked the roma for its simpler lines, more pleasant to look at
if it was electric what would they call it? ferrari 12volttypeC

[loud spade]

Right-hand drive?

Is that legal

[jagged sentinel]

25 year import law

[kind drift]

Holden Commodore with a jet engine right outta Australia

[dire shard]

i sleep

https://youtu.be/_h17PyWbQ7w?si=AwVZSfl9NmJCssog

real shit

[loud spade]

I’m not talking about it being a japanese import

Just that it’s right-hand drive which some may consider unsafe for left-hand driving roads

[jagged sentinel]

If not for that law it would not be legal

That's why I mentioned it

On top of all the... Lacking safety technology in the vehicle

[kind osprey]

There's no law against where the steering wheel is here but left side is just superior and what we're used to

[kind osprey]

The best part is this little truck isn't even in a city it is in a pretty rural area in North Carolina

So safety is indeed a concern I would have driving that thing around here

[sage roost]

I would be scared too being a Honda acty in a raptor world

[turbid heron]

opinions on 1981 Yamaha 400XS Maxim?

[dire shard]

i've been converted to team m340i

especially with this bumper from yoffer

[trim sun]

Plane

[sage roost]

I’ve been telling you

M340s are very capable and look better than the G80

but unfortunately here it’s the same price as an F80 in very good condition

so..

[kind drift]

That's cool as but we all agree, red is faster 😂

[hybrid yacht]

omfg

[tepid fog]

does anyone know why my car only starts when its sunny and hot but never turns the ignition when its cold at night

so what the fuck

[kind drift]

Daylight sensor on your ignition lol

[kind drift]

Check battery voltage/condition, starter, electrical connections etc

[tepid fog]

its usually the starter wires i have to shake it and sometimes does work sometimes not

[kind drift]

That could be a metal shrinking in cold and expanding in heat thing or a bad starter

[tepid fog]

good point

[kind drift]

Mining n that

[tepid fog]

thats so cute

[hybrid yacht]

omfg