transportation

[kind osprey]

Which probably means a small part is loose or a fuse is out

Get it for nothing then maintenance it properly

Boom, Italian v8 for less than an accord

Lol

[sage roost]

I’m probably not brave enough to do that

would rather a reliable car that I can drive every day without issues

[dull folio]

The closer I'm getting to being able to buy my affordable dream car, the more worried I get about the additional maintenance costs...

[sage roost]

mhm

we were about to buy a used Porsche cayenne before we realized the reliability on them were bad

[dull folio]

Well I plan on getting a 996 911 lmao

So you get the reliability concerns

I could get the 987.2 Cayman for virtually the same money, but I just hate how the rear looks

(It's way more reliable and arguably a better car)

[sage roost]

I was today years old when I realized the cayman generation names is pretty much the same as the 911

The 987 was released around the same time as the 997

[dull folio]

Yeah except for the 992 vs 718 (the 718 should've been called the 982

[sage roost]

same with the 991 and 981

[dire shard]

the 718 is just the name they gave it

the internal code for it is 982

[dull folio]

I know, it's just that people only refer to it as the 718

I wish I could afford a 997.2

That would solve all of my problems

reliable + the best looking modern 911 imo

[sage roost]

does the 718 still not have the updated interior every other Porsche has

[dire shard]

good

i don't like the new interior

[sage roost]

I mean it won’t matter to me

I don’t like the amount of touch buttons near the gear selector

[dull folio]

physical buttons masterrace

[sage roost]

some really unfortunate rumors is that the 992.2 refresh will lose the analogue RPM gauge

[dull folio]

Yeah I've heard, lame

[sage roost]

I am extremely disappointed and sad

anyway, that one GT3 I saw

pictures do not put it justice

it’s very wide

[onyx rivet]

what the fugg, '718' isnt even the internal code for the Cayman/Boxster

[onyx rivet]

this is why im more likely to dislike a facelift/refresh than i am to be excisted for one

that saying, the recent Taycan facelift wasn't too bad
it was faifthful to the older ones

sharper bumper, revised headlights

[sage roost]

I like

[sage roost]

With The refreshed 911 spy shots, it doesn’t look that different

the turbo S is supposedly going to get a mild hybrid system

[onyx rivet]

if you mean this one, its a 'yeah-nah' from me

these better be mule car decoy because those slats are a wrong move

[sage roost]

the turbo S rear number is quite aggressive

[onyx rivet]

not a fan of the rear too
or maybe its because ive gotten used to the 992

[sage roost]

The boxes in the middle are to hide the rest of the bumper I think

[onyx rivet]

mayeb it could be that

[sage roost]

Could be

[onyx rivet]

i personally think that looks stupid

[sage roost]

maybe just the carrera and it’s variants have those slots

[onyx rivet]

new leightweight wheel option too by the looks of it

[dire shard]

BUTT CRACK

[onyx rivet]

i just hope its not that drastic of a change

[sage roost]

hmm

this is the GTS

[onyx rivet]

thats what i thought it could be

i cant remember where ive read but they are turbocharging the GTS as rumoured

[sage roost]

wait…

it’s NA?

[onyx rivet]

sorry, its not

so what was i trying to recall?

[sage roost]

I thought all of the lower tier 911s used the same 3.0L turbo engine

well, at least the GT3 and touring isn’t that drastic of a change

To me, it looks exactly the same

[onyx rivet]

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a46167074/2025-porsche-911-preview/

i beleive i have confused it for the 3.6L update

[sage roost]

interesting

also just a mild hybrid

not a plug-in, so weight penalty isnt severe

[onyx rivet]

the rear lights now goes and takes up the whole length

[sage roost]

I don’t mind it

It’s not like I’ll say no if they give me one lol

[onyx rivet]

it will take me a while for me to get used to

maybe

i really wouldnt complain if they are giving me one either

[sage roost]

If anything to me it looks better

the lightbar seems to be thinner

[onyx rivet]

nah i actually like current's rear lights better

[sage roost]

I need to find out how to get the “mule car tester” role in Porsche

[onyx rivet]

i think its interesting that the lower grille things in the front might be active if included for the release
https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/2025-porsche-911-spied-front-658200b0a3a5d.jpg?crop=1.00xw:0.753xh;0,0.110xh&resize=1200:*

[sage roost]

unrelated but

Porsche said the Dakar is limited to 2500 units

But it’s still up on their configurator

I refuse to believe it still hasn’t sold out

maybe it did actually sell out so they made it a permanent model

[onyx rivet]

i thought that to but i guess its for people to play around with

last time i checked, the Aston Martin DBS 707 Edition was also up to configure but i recall that they've sold all slots to their buyers

[sage roost]

Hmm

[dire shard]

the dakar was sold out last year

[sage roost]

The S/T is still up for configuration as well

[sage roost]

damn, I was going to buy one

time for a rich someone to do a funny and make a turbo S into a Dakar

Lift kit and everything

[dire shard]

you could probably safari-ify a gts to the same effect

for probably cheaper

[sage roost]

iirc the Dakar is just the base carrera 4S

With.. Dakar stuff

[dire shard]

you mean these people have been paying twice the price for a lifted 4s

that's a porsche w

[sage roost]

nvm it’s the GTS

[dull folio]

Dream spec

[kind osprey]

It is a useless toy that costs more than any other trim, but at the same time, there are plenty of rich people out there who are into that

So yea I also thought it would be all sold by now

[kind drift]

I would honestly get a custom obd2 gauge if I could afford to buy the car lol

[sterile kayak]

I’m in Bonaire, this thing is very fun to drive so ima buy one in the UK for shits and gigs

[loud spade]

UK roads were built for this anyways

You can’t fit a normal sized car on them

[loud spade]

How much do they cost thoughv

[hybrid charm]

Yamaha

Can't find the price

You can get a six seater too lol

[kind osprey]

Doubt. That's a huge selling point of Porsches tbh

It has to be in the center and show me in the original analog format the way god intended

[hybrid charm]

It's 9k lolllllll

[kind osprey]

That golf cart costs 5 times more than the full size sedan I just bought last week

[kind osprey]

It does look fun to drive, Hayabusa swap it though

[hybrid charm]

The electric is 10k

[kind osprey]

In what world are golf carts $9-$10k

That's ridiculous tbh

[kind osprey]

It's like 5hp and a direct drive steering wheel with some plastic seats

[hybrid charm]

Lol

It has a top speed of 31

Kmh

[kind osprey]

That's horrendous, even 31mph would be a little low on that

[hybrid charm]

It's probably computer limited tho

[kind osprey]

Yea definitely

[hybrid charm]

Cause ye

[kind osprey]

But the engines are still small

[hybrid charm]

The 5 seater is 12k

13k for the electric

[kind osprey]

A golf cart as a daily vehicle is something you do if you live somewhere that's always warm and tropical like the Maldives, Aruba, Puerto Rico etc

I wouldn't touch that thing if I lived in Europe

You can't use it half the year

The Citroën Ami is a better deal and goes faster

[hybrid charm]

With all the premium items its 18k lol

[kind osprey]

$18,000 for a golf cart I'd build my own at that point

Jesus

[hybrid charm]

If you paint it it's 19k

[hybrid charm]

Correction it's 18.8k

[hybrid charm]

Tax is excluded lol

And the other things

[kind osprey]

Offroad slicks for when it gets rough and rocky on the golf course lmao

[hybrid charm]

It calls them Sahara tires

You also need to pay 39$ for mirrors

You can buy a ducati Supersport 950 for 18k lol

@sterile kayak are you sure you want to buy one now

Base model was 9.4k

[hybrid charm]

It's not street legal tho

You can make it even more expensive

[onyx rivet]

https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a46709163/2025-aston-martin-vantage-is-beautiful-reveal/

Somewhat faithful refresh

I think the fish-mouthed grille is a bit bigger

The old interior which i've personally started to not mind has now been updated similarly to the DB12

[kind osprey]

It looks like a tiny modernized One-77

[dire shard]

that's a good look

the most important change is a change in the headlight shape and size

[sage roost]

I like

[violet jetty]

Bro theres a same person with ur pfp and is named demon cat but in another server

[hybrid charm]

W

[kind osprey]

Oh no

There's two of them?!?!

[jagged sentinel]

https://robbreport.com/motors/cars/jason-momoa-electric-1929-rolls-royce-phantom-1235503492/

[sage roost]

hmm did he not learn about the old 911 EV conversion that burned down

[onyx rivet]

he made his ride as quiet as a phantom?

[kind osprey]

I can't tell if this is sacrilege to tamper with an artifact, or an awesome experiment that the founders of the company would have enjoyed

Probably the later since phantoms weren't one of a kind things there were a few of them scattered around

[little skiff]

why would one do this

[heady swift]

@little skiff It makes a lot of sense. The founder of RR was heavily interested electric cars. The engines RR use were essentially made to create an experience similar to that of electric ones.

''In an interview published in The Motor-Car Journal in April 1900, Rolls described electric propulsion, in terms that, over a century later, carry the ring of prescient prophecy:
“The electric car is perfectly noiseless and clean. There is no smell or vibration, and they should become very useful when fixed charging stations can be arranged. But for now, I do not anticipate that they will be very serviceable – at least for many years to come.”''

https://www.press.rolls-roycemotorcars.com/rolls-royce-motor-cars-pressclub/article/detail/T0345592EN/rolls-royce-and-electric-power:-a-prophecy-a-promise-and-an-undertaking?language=en

he also worked in electric engineering, made his own electric engines and charging stations

it makes a lot of sense for an older royce to become electrified, as that's in the very image of its founder

if anything it's an homage, if it's well executed

[kind osprey]

Yea true

[little skiff]

i still prefer combustion engines over EV

[kind osprey]

For fun and supercars absolutely

For comfort or a daily transportation thing I don't mind either

[jagged sentinel]

I'm surprised RR didn't go electric sooner, frankly

[tawdry sleet]

fr

[sterile kayak]

Who doesn’t

[little skiff]

exactly

[jagged sentinel]

People who use cars as a form of transportation who couldn't care less as long as their needs are met

[sage roost]

Who doesn’t want a Lamborghini aventador E-SUV 🔥🔥

[little skiff]

well i don’t think it’s anyones first option while buying an electric car

[jagged sentinel]

Live will reaction

[sage roost]

electrify the world

electric Ferrari F50GT

scrap that F1 V12 engine

[valid lintel]

can someone help me with my time trial

[night steeple]

i cant understand bimmer people's taste, maybe im old but goddamn thats tacky and ugly

[steady cove]

Wheres your "bimmer"

[dire shard]

what colour is your bmw

[kind osprey]

no bimber

Only Honda Miata

[vestal garnet]

Nice miata

[sage roost]

Nice Miata

[tawdry sleet]

nice v10 swapped miata

[night steeple]

surprisingly small the viper once i see pics of it parked next to regular cars

[violet jetty]

Is that a lada i see next to it

[tawdry sleet]

yes it is small if u dont consider the massive engine

[onyx rivet]

looks like a 60s Mercedes-Benz to me

maybe a W108

[dull flame]

Today i wanted to eat a
Mikoyan-Gurevich MIG-29
(NATO Reporting name: "Fulcrum")

So i went to a place that sells
Mikoyan-Gurevich MIG-29
(NATO Reporting name: "Fulcrum")

Then i bought a
Mikoyan-Gurevich MIG-29
(NATO Reporting name: "Fulcrum")

And then i ate the
Mikoyan-Gurevich MIG-29
(NATO Reporting name: "Fulcrum")

[jagged sentinel]

It's a small car regardless tbh

It's a small car with a monstrous engine

[sage roost]

still looks massive when compared to a Miata

found this on dit of red

[pseudo spruce]

thats class

[steady cove]

sir thats 2 cars

[kind osprey]

Where is the miata

I just see two vipers

[dire shard]

bring your child to work day

[tawdry sleet]

yep , if the car was released today with same engine and TUNED upto todays standards .it wud be undrivable lol.TImes when dodge knew what they were doing

[main cosmos]

can you fit a hair dryer in your miata

how much extra power you get

[jagged sentinel]

They did that

A couple times, lol

[dire shard]

the viper has already seen "today's standards"

it wasn't killed off that long ago

it was also safer, as "today's standards" necessitates traction and stability control

features lacking in the previous generations of viper that caused it to be known as a dangerous vehicle to drive

what's impressive to me is noticing how much bigger the viper got in its final generation

he all grown up

[kind osprey]

I like how when you're about to approach the rev limiter on the later models it lights up with the logo

[dire shard]

i liked how the rear badge was the center brake light

[sage roost]

And the ACR was like the final boss of all vipers

that penzoil ad with the yellow ACR remains to be one my favorite videos ever

[jagged sentinel]

And ABS... and crumple zones... And actual glass windows... Etcetera, etcetera.

[sage roost]

so basically: all the viper had was a steering wheel, pedals and a shifter

yeah no wonder it was so dangerous

[jagged sentinel]

The steering was also just hot garbage in the first gen

[sage roost]

just pedals and a shifter

Lovely

[tawdry sleet]

lol ik wt u talking abt

[sage roost]

so I’ve just been looking around and

a used F80 M3CS costs less than a brand new M340 LCI

I know what I’m picking tbh

pre-LCI is still less expensive

[kind osprey]

Yea i'd rather have the f80, you get a 4-6 year old car that still looks brand new for half the price, even a third of the price in some cases it came out as

I love German/Italian resale values

fuck old Japanese cars I love em but they are unjustifiably expensive

[sage roost]

the LCI isn’t justifiable for the price tbh

people are making it popular because of the B58 but still

it’s pushing almost $80k where I live

and it only comes in xDrive

I found some non-CS F80 models with around 40,000km for ~$55k

[serene escarp]

Carbon fiba 🥵💦

[onyx rivet]

What motorshow is that?

[sturdy hemlock]

Anyone with knowledge on tanks? Curious on what sherman variant this is.

Found, 75 M4A2 Sherman with fake muzzle brake

[untold folio]

Is that a supra?

[vestal garnet]

Yea

[serene escarp]

2024 Canadian International Auto Show

[serene escarp]

Bro. You cannot be serious.... That is a frickin Pagani Zonda R...

[serene escarp]

🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪✋✋✋✋

[sterile kayak]

That tow hook 🥵

[serene escarp]

Nahhhh that's a violation

[sterile kayak]

Joking

[serene escarp]

Ik lol

La Ferrari

[sterile kayak]

I just creamed my pants

That colour is amazing

[serene escarp]

My proudest nut

[sterile kayak]

True

[serene escarp]

Ik that matte white finish 🥵🥵🥵💦

[sterile kayak]

Best rental ever

[serene escarp]

🥵💦💦 I would pay a million for this

[sterile kayak]

So fun to drive

[serene escarp]

Ikr

[sterile kayak]

I even overtook another cart in this

[sterile kayak]

Exactly

It was in Bonaire and the island is so flat so driving it was great, might have also done some cheeky offraoding

[serene escarp]

Lol

[sterile kayak]

It was too easy

[serene escarp]

Bro went off-road with a golf cart lmao

[sterile kayak]

Maybe the company doesn’t need to know that

[serene escarp]

🤫

[kind drift]

No I spilled a liter of water on my car seats

[kind osprey]

Me when I left the sunroof open during a storm

[kind drift]

I'm not that rich unfortunately

[sterile kayak]

Same I just cut a hole in my roof

[kind drift]

Should give my car a wash aye

[sterile kayak]

Wash it

I hate that I can’t find any aftermarket parts for my car

[kind drift]

What car?

[sterile kayak]

I got a 2012 Kia picanto 1, can’t even find replacement wing mirror covers for it

I’ve seen modded ones out there but can’t find any info on them

[kind drift]

Surely that be some places in Europe that do custom European car parts

[sterile kayak]

I’ve seen some with really cool rivet on wide bodies but can’t find em anywhere

[kind drift]

Most likely they did those custom to be honest

[sterile kayak]

Yea there’s this one which I really like

[kind drift]

have you tried asking the poster?

[sterile kayak]

Yea no response

[kind drift]

Damn I guess your car will be stock forever. Maybe take the exhaust off or something

[sterile kayak]

The exhaust on mine already looks clean stock but might get an aftermarket

[kind drift]

You could turbo it. That's doable. As long as you can make sure the engine can take it

[sterile kayak]

Like this but mine is white

[sterile kayak]

I could do that

[kind drift]

All you need is a small one cuz it's tiny engine and it would go so far

[sterile kayak]

Going to look into it

Beautiful

Putting a turbo on my car would be cool, I also want to remove a small bit of chrome on the front grille, black out the picanto badge and get black wing mirror covers

And probably get some new wheel trims

My list of what to do, time to get looking for parts

Damn £40 just for the pair of wing mirror covers in black

This is the silver colour like bit on the edge I want to turn black

Any ideas on how to do so?

[sterile kayak]

I found a black badge that says picanto online for sale, issue is it’s in the Philippines and I’m in the UK

[sterile kayak]

I found a turbo for it, but it is £280

[fathom oriole]

you have a picanto?

i am sorry for your loss

[sterile kayak]

I like it

Got a great deal on it

It’s a fun first car even though insurance is dead expensive

Like £1300 for a year, do they expect me to write it off once every two years?

[fathom oriole]

UK insurance is nuts

[sterile kayak]

Absolutely crazy

But only £50 to fill up completely

[sage roost]

Isn’t it like a 3 cylinder

[sterile kayak]

Yeah

35L tank

Only a first car or last car kind of thing

[sage roost]

damn

mileage would be insane I’m guessing

[sterile kayak]

Mine is 45k 2012

[sage roost]

I meant like gas mileage

[sterile kayak]

Yea

[sage roost]

bro

how many miles per gallon

[sterile kayak]

Like 50+

Changes

Cheap to run

[sage roost]

that’s not as much as I thought tbh

My mom’s sportage gets around 35mpg

[sterile kayak]

Damn

My dads 2015 bmw f31 gets like 60mpg

Which surprised me

[loud spade]

How much does the car itself cost?

[slender oriole]

!levels

@slender oriole\

hi

[kind osprey]

Where I live if you are under 25 years old insurance is a scam it's so expensive

Full coverage on a boring regular car can be $3,000-$5,000 a year

[sterile kayak]

£2800

[hybrid charm]

Uk itself is nuts

[loud spade]

So why even pay that much for insurance then

[sterile kayak]

Cause cheapest one there is

[loud spade]

Well that’s fucking stupid

[sterile kayak]

Exactly

It’s mental

[kind osprey]

Insurance is a mega scam for us youngins

If they are gonna charge me like I'm street racing, I might as well be street racing

Get my moneys worth and such

[fathom oriole]

and you gotta get it legally

fun innit

[loud spade]

I understand why insurance is more expensive for teenagers but it’s still got to be somewhat proportional to the value of the car they’re driving

1300 a year for a 2800 car is

I wouldn’t drive if I had to pay that much for insurance

Or I’d just get a scooter or something

I’m probably getting one of these bay boys soon

[full tinsel]

Why

[loud spade]

Why do you think

To get around, obviously

[full tinsel]

Ofcourse but why that specifically

[loud spade]

Convenient, pretty good value

Reliable

Economic

And like, a million other reasons

[full tinsel]

Fair enough

[loud spade]

It’s as old as 1997 so it’s gonna be hard to find one in GOOD condition

[full tinsel]

Just start flying around and look for one then steal it

Too easy

[dire shard]

👏 we have arrived at the crux of the problem

[kind osprey]

Insurance costs is mainly liability

So the car can be cheap but insurance will still be stupidly expensive

[loud spade]

I’m sorry, but what does that mean in an example

[kind osprey]

Liability insurance stands for coverage in and accident that just pays for what damages you caused in the accident

Liability isn't coverage to repair or replace your vehicle it is just for covering your ass in an accident

In the US liability insurance is legally required to register a vehicle because it is the bare minimum coverage

My insurance is just liability on my daily car because I paid $800 so paying an extra $2000-$3000 a year to protect at most a car that is worth $5,000 just doesn't make sense

If you want find help go to the lfg chats. This is a channel about cars.

Also rule 10 doesn't allow for any transactions of any kind so don't pay anybody to do heists with you

[kind drift]

Car meet n that

[old sedge]

Sometimes, I'm thinking that there should be everyday cars with gas turbine engines instead of piston engines. What could possibly go wrong?

[kind osprey]

Chrysler would like to have a word with you

[kind drift]

V8 power

[sonic monolith]

Can you get only 1 vechile when delivering full bar of supply?, In cash factory

[onyx rivet]

TIL: there is this pickup truck racing series in Australia that all have a 6.2L LS3 V8

i dont really know how to feel about it

[dire shard]

seems sick

why not

[onyx rivet]

uhhhh, how do i put it in a way that people can understand?

its like replacing potato chips for rice crackers

[dire shard]

what's wrong with that

that's valid

[onyx rivet]

the previous format used to be with these cars

which were localised vehicles of the same body type from Australia

but then Australia stopped producing their own vehicles, so those cars also stopped getting produced

the idea is still there, the execution is a bit different

[sterile kayak]

Should I purchase?

[sage roost]

Yes

And a fart can exhaust

[sterile kayak]

Nah the exhaust looks too good to change

[loud spade]

I se riced out Picantos all the time

Might aswell join their club

[kind osprey]

£145 addition for a $2000 car just seems not worth the effort

If you really like the car sure go ahead

[true oxide]

Yeah soo you don't wait for the bus again

[sterile kayak]

Sure

[sterile kayak]

Never seen one

[sterile kayak]

It’s actually £220 total with shipping and the car is worth more than $2k

[kind osprey]

I've never really seen old small Kia's go for more than a couple of grand

At least here

Maybe a super clean one would be like $4k-$5k

[sterile kayak]

It’s only 11 years old

[sterile kayak]

Don’t insult my child

[sterile kayak]

I need it

[kind osprey]

Ironically I'm getting a spoiler for my car that's about the same price so I'm being a big hypocrite rn

Mine just looks naked without a little wing or lip spoiler ngl

[sterile kayak]

Damn

[kind drift]

Jesus man put some pants on

[gusty roost]

Does anyone know what that Car is?

Sorry for the 144p quality

[kind osprey]

May not be 100% on this because all old cars look the same to me and I can count the pixels in this image

If I had to guess

It's a 1971 Dodge Demon

[gusty roost]

[kind osprey]

They looks fairly similar

It's the closest one I found

Welp that was a fun car hunt

Off to bed

[gusty roost]

It indeed looks really similar

Thanks

[kind osprey]

[pseudo spruce]

demon or a duster

looks class

[old sedge]

Some say that Bathurst is one of the hardest or challenging race tracks.
Me: Is Laguna Seca a joke to you?

[sage roost]

laguna seca is for toddlers compared to it

[fierce dragon]

Hey guys, whats your dream car and which car would you choose from Mercedes if you were given one which couldn't be sold

[jaunty lance]

nissan skyline r34 and a mustang gtt

[fierce dragon]

Paul Walker one?

[jaunty lance]

yea

[fierce dragon]

Why your dream car, due to watching him and falling in love with the character and the car is filling the absence of the character? (Since the guy died?)

[jaunty lance]

idk it just gives me drift and speed vibes and i like lower suppensioned cars as well so yea

[fierce dragon]

Doesn't neccesarily mean gtr, many cars like that. If you like that body then yeah same

[jaunty lance]

yea mainly the body

[fierce dragon]

But gotta have a SUV (like mercedes glc, etc)

Or g wagon

[jaunty lance]

fs

[fierce dragon]

For offroad

Yk you get bored with low suspension

[fierce dragon]

Fs?

[jaunty lance]

for sure

[fierce dragon]

Ohk

[fast edge]

e34 touring that isn't rusted around the trunk hinge or inside roof

will never happen

[jaunty lance]

also the hellcats are my thing

[west wind]

only hellcats?

[kind osprey]

Dream car would be a gma t50 or Mclaren f1. If I had to pick any Mercedes out of pure enjoyment I would either do a clk gtr or a clk dtm amg. But if we're talking sellable cars I would pick an old slr or anything Stirling Moss drove

Or a pre war

Those are all a fortune

[kind osprey]

I would personally never get bored of a road legal race car

I hate driving suv's, they are solely for practically/utility and nothing else

Heavy and clunky, even the nicer ones

[old sedge]

Even the Laguna Seca's corkscrew turn is nothing to Bathurst?

[fierce dragon]

I have mercedes glc, its pretty good yk

[fast edge]

like a diecast model glc?

[mint plank]

@serene helm YF-17 72–1570 at Battleship Memorial Park in Mobile, Alabama

and 72-1569 – Western Museum of Flight in Torrance, California

the two prototypes

[dire shard]

i'm biased in that i'm more familiar with laguna seca, but corkscrew isn't a challenge once you get used to it

(if you aren't used to it, RIP suspension)

the rest of laguna seca is... boring as shit

at least it isn't flat

speaking of not being flat, i hate the top of bathurst because once you reach the peak and start descending, that point in time is where your visibility of the road is low
and what better place to put a bunch of chicanes than where you can't see them? i've messed up the esses so many times because i just can't see them

but going up and down is otherwise pretty fun

[hybrid charm]

T50 really? That car is looks underwhelming af

[dire shard]

what's wrong with the t50

in fact, what's underwhelming about a manual attached to a v12, attached to a massive turbofan 🤔

you like... hate fun, or something?

[kind osprey]

In what way?

The T.50 is the biggest engineering marvel in the automotive space maybe other than the Aston Martin Valkyie

It is designed by Gordon Murray, has a cosworth v12 that revs to 12,100 rpm, ground effect fan, and weighs less than a 1990 MIATA

It is honestly the best remake of the Mclaren F1 they could have ever done and I've been wishing for an f1 remake since I could crawl

There's a 50 minute video on youtube just about the engine alone, the thing is insane

[dire shard]

i almost said "the f1 isn't that old"

[kind osprey]

I would take the t50 over any other hypercar hands down aside from the obvious few like a Pagani Huayra R

[dire shard]

then i checked

yeah it's remake time

[kind osprey]

Gordon Murray is old

So the t50 and t33 are his final send offs and they are done so well I would love to own one in the near future but $3,000,000 for a car is a long ways away

[dire shard]

it's gonna be more than that once you arrive at "long ways away"

they're that good

[kind osprey]

@dire shard One thing with modern hypercars and just every car in general nowadays is that everyone only focuses on two metrics. Horsepower, and 0-60. Most likely why @hybrid charm thought the t50 is underwhelming compared to its rivals like Koenigsegg and Pagani.

The t50 is built how a supercar should be built

Weight gone, nothing but what needs to be there

It only has 620-670 horsepower which in todays climate is nothing. But what is overlooked is that any other hypercar on this planet is turbo or supercharged

The t50 is naturally aspirated, it's the fastest revving car on the planet and it's throttle input in entirely linear

It is an engineering dream

It isn't flashy either get that car in gray and people won't even notice it lol, it's perfect

[dire shard]

can't agree with that

it's eyecatching in every colour

[kind osprey]

It looks good, but I don't think it's all that flashy

Like a Lamborghini with the jaggedness and stance

[dire shard]

it's a shape more exotic than a 911, and most 911s are already eyecatching enough to the average viewer

i don't doubt it's more subtle than a lot of other supercars out there, but it's no sleeper

[kind osprey]

Gordon Murray was limited in design creativity due to the three seat configuration. That is what gives the car ots spaceship bubble look

[dire shard]

besides, nothing with a huge fan on the back will go unnoticed

[kind osprey]

For a ground effect car that fan is really tiny, but yea it'll definitely look like a gimmick to someone just looking at it

The t33 is Gordon Murray's full design without restrictions

It's a beautiful looking concept that reninds me of euro le mans styling from the late 60's

Like the 33 stradale

Or the Porsche 906

The the t33 has ground effect functionality without the fan it was a really cool discovery

https://youtu.be/mexed_19_WA?si=Lz0lKbZ1IqoKEerA

This car weighs as much as a 4 cylinder sports car while having a v12 that revs to the high 11,000's

I love this company

[dire shard]

mr2 except the 2 is 20000

amazing as this all is, i've come to the point where it's kind of painful to think about all the beautiful and amazing cars that i will never afford

it's life

the life pathway to t33 is not the life pathway i'm on

[onyx rivet]

more points in saying that Mount Panorama is harder than Laguna Seca

[kind osprey]

You gotta take it one step at a time and enjoy every level you do get to reach

I'd honestly be at a very similar level of happiness in a Lotus elise as I would be in a Lamborghini Diablo

The price of a car is a decent factor into your experience but at the same time there are many fun cars out there that are achievable

It's honestly the main and very few reasons I want a crap ton of money

Racing and cars

If it wasn't as expensive as it was I don't know if I would have the same drive to be extremely rich

[dire shard]

i don't want to say i gave up on that drive but all i do is look at old depreciated cars

well, as you say, the fun can be had at all levels

cheap depreciated cars or not

[kind osprey]

Even though the car got ruined by Youtube Vloggers and rapper personalities. Everytime I think of a dream car I always come back to the Lamborghini Huracan, preferably the Performante but I'm not too picky on trim

I love naturally aspirated great sounding cars and the Huracan is just small but punch packing. The aventador is an awesome car but it is the length of a mid size pickup truck

The Huracan is a baby

I like smaller cars

[dire shard]

i don't think it's too much of a stretch to hope that the huracan falls to gallardo prices in a decade

the dream can be had

[kind osprey]

Some will

They were pretty widely produced

You can find them for right under $200,000

The 2014-2016 models with maybe over 10,000 miles

[dire shard]

wasn't that roughly how much they were msrp

give or take 50k

[kind osprey]

Yea the base model 2014's were like maybe $210k-$250k

But nowadays a brand new one you're lucky to walk away with an awd evo for under $330,000

Options get expensive

[dire shard]

so it's been a decade since the 610-4 and it's not really dropped at all

my hope wanes

[kind osprey]

Because it is still the latest generation

And they are fairly reliable compared to older Lamborghini's

Old Gallardo's are cheap because they break down and have a ton of issues

Mainly pre audi powertrains

After 2008 Gallardo's were alright

Once the new "Huracan" comes put I think the deciding factor of the Huracan's depreciation will be whether or not it is a v10 or v8

[dire shard]

it's supposed to be a v8, isn't it? the turbocharged one from the urus

[kind osprey]

V8 hybrid = Huracan prices maintain or skyrocket
V10 naturally aspirated = Huracan prices fall to Gallardo levels

[kind osprey]

Hopefully not

Idc if they hybriditize the 5.2 liter v10, the weigh increase will be annoying but whatever. If they make it a v8 though that would ruin the car for me

The car can have the best tires and best brakes on planet earth it'll still feel like shit if it weighs 4000 pounds

[dire shard]

i mean, the engine or the weight

[kind osprey]

The v8 would be a deal breaker

The v8 turbos sound like nothing

[dire shard]

they made the revuelto a hybrid and it weighs like 400 pounds more than the aventador, but it retains its v12

if they hybridize the v10

[kind osprey]

If I wanted a car with a no sound turbo v8 I would get a Mclaren

[dire shard]

how much more could it weigh

[kind osprey]

The Huracan already weighs 3400 pounds

So another 400 would suck

3800 pounds is heavy af for a supercar of that size

[dire shard]

yeah, suppose hybridizing the v10 would add another 400, it would weigh as much as the revuelto lol

[kind osprey]

Say they do some reductions and it comes out to 3700 pounds. For a supercar that's only 172 inches in length would still be insane

That is why Gordon Murray is doing gods work with those bespoke cars they are the same size, same power but weight only 2300 pounds

[dire shard]

but in being bespoke, cost 10x the price

so the choice between hybridizing the v10 and making it weigh 4000 pounds or stuffing the urus v8tt in it, this is ultimately between the identity of the car and the engine, or the performance

[kind osprey]

At the end of the day,

Fuck emissions regulations for small production supercars

[dire shard]

real

but you know what lays on the other side of that coin

cygnet

and not the funny v8 one

[kind osprey]

Cars they only make a few thousand of, and get driven only 1000-3000 miles a year

These are of couse the only thing destroying the environment

And MUST be stopped

Immediately

Totally not the concrete China wastes on barely functioning construction projects

Only supercars kill baby seals and raise the sea levels. It is such backwards ass thinking

[sage roost]

How

the sf90 with its plug-in hybrid weighs 3400 pounds as well

[dire shard]

the sf90's 3400 pounds is its dry weight

the huracan's 3400 pounds is its curb weight

the sf90 gains like 290 pounds or so over the huracan when comparing curb weights

though, still

considering the electric system accounts for nearly 600 pounds in the sf90

although, if you were to remove the electric systems, the sf90 would just no longer be awd

then again, if you compare the 580-2 to the 610-4, the weight difference is like roughly 70 pounds

conclusion: huracan heavy

[sage roost]

Huracan needs to hit the gym and lose some weight

The STO is a mere 400 pound decrease from the 610-4

I don’t think that’s a lot

[dry sage]

Gawd fucking damn.

[kind osprey]

Sf90 is also newer, double the price, and fully carbon fiber

The hybrid system on the sf90 is tiny I think it adds 160 pounds

[kind osprey]

I love Fiero's 😍

[twilit herald]

Tributo is better

[kind osprey]

They stopped making the f8, but yea the f8 and 296 I heard were more fun to drive

The sf90 is a low revving heavy thing

[dire shard]

the combined weight of the battery and three motors is about 600 pounds

there is the price disparity here that would justify the sf90 generally having better technology in order to be built lighter(before electrics), but it's still a pretty incredible thing to realize how the weight of the two vehicles are so similar despite the sf90 having a 600 pound hybrid system in it

[dire shard]

yeah driver engagement and performance are very different metrics that, when taken to extremes, counter each other

i'm sure the 296 and f8 were designed to be enjoyable to drive

the sf90 is just designed for performance, it's numb in steering and has scary amounts of power

[sage roost]

It’s designed for the people that want to drag race Ferraris

[sterile kayak]

That would be me, just need enough to buy a Ferrari

[jagged sentinel]

Car college moment

50/50 chance leaving the headlight on was intentional

[kind osprey]

Bro will not possess a battery when he gets back from class

That camber is disgusting

Jeez

[jagged sentinel]

Can we talk about how far the lip of the wheel sticks out from the tire

[kind osprey]

The Autozone dudes reaction when he wants to put 7.5 inch tires on 9 inch rims

[sterile kayak]

Stanced cars are awful

[sage roost]

One microbump in the road and bro is done for

[dire shard]

bro has already been done for

his driver window looks cracked

[sage roost]

someone thought it was a nice car and tried to test drive it

[sterile kayak]

Front bumper ain’t even on properly

[kind osprey]

Poor miata

I wanna rescue it

[dire shard]

that thing doesn't look salvageable without parting out an entire other miata, the parts of which would be better served going into a better example

the front fenders were destroyed to accomodate the wheels, the shrouds for the headlights are missing, the driver window is held together by hopes and dreams

you can't rescue it, you can only put it out of its misery

[serene helm]

[onyx rivet]

way more interest for that XJ behind it

[jagged sentinel]

Damn this chat tore that miat to pieces

Can't say I'm surprised but like

[dire shard]

this chat tore the miata to pieces?

no

the owner did

tore it into so many pieces that the bottom half of the front fender is missing

that's supposed to be one panel

it's not detachable

[onyx rivet]

yeah, its on the owner of the car

NAs never clicked with me but people who build those cars makesme alienate them more

[hybrid charm]

NAs lamborghinis are the best

and the Enzo engine

[sage roost]

he meant the NA Miata

[dire shard]

silly farxxs, all miatas other than the mazdaspeed are NA 😎

[sage roost]

https://tenor.com/view/miata-wink-gif-5311718

[kind osprey]

If only they paired it with a manual

[sterile kayak]

Best engine you can get is a supercharged V8

Simple

[kind osprey]

V10's exist

[sterile kayak]

I know

Supercharged V8s are just better

The whine is amazing

[kind osprey]

For sound naturally aspirated for me will always beat any induction engine. 10 and 12 cylinders are great because they are basically echo'd inline 5 and 6 cylinders which with the right exhaust and rpm sound just amazing

It isn't street legal, but the Pagani huayra r is the best sounding car I've heard outside of f1 cars

I miss v10/v12 f1 cars

Emissions can stick it

[sterile kayak]

For street legal cars, the best sounding one for me is the dodge demon 170 just because of the insane whine

[jagged sentinel]

Honestly the hellcats have pretty interchangeable sounds, as good as they may be

I wouldn't be able to tell the difference

[sterile kayak]

Best sounding car for me is the Cadillac race car that I forgot the name of when it changes from EV to engine and the roar is insane

[jagged sentinel]

Their GTP car

[sterile kayak]

Yeah

The noise when it changes is beautiful

[jagged sentinel]

That sounds great but I like the sound of the C7.R more

[kind osprey]

They do sound amazin but I've always loved higher rpms for sounds

Deep cars can be top notch like the big v10 in the viper

[sterile kayak]

Fair the viper is great

[jagged sentinel]

One of the coolest American engines ever

[kind osprey]

What is a mpg 🦅🔥🔥🔥

[sterile kayak]

Any big block V8 makes a great American engine

[jagged sentinel]

Big blocks are kinda obsolete nowadays

I say kinda

They are

[kind osprey]

Yea old v8's sound awesome, the more clunky the crank the bettee

The glug glug sound and carburetion

[sterile kayak]

I don’t care if they are obsolete they sound insane

My Bugatti only got a 3cyl 1litre

[kind osprey]

Leaded gas ruined those cars I wish leaded gas never existed and we as humans just went with ethanol to begin with for fuel

Fuck corporate greed ruining everything

[jagged sentinel]

There's a video I like to watch once in awhile is a few farmers ripping a 1970 Chevelle 454 on a back road

[kind osprey]

Nice

[sterile kayak]

There is alcohol in ethanol and ethanol goes into race cars so I am a race car

[kind osprey]

Can't argue with that

[sterile kayak]

Exactly that’s what I tell the police when I get pulled over

[jagged sentinel]

Leaded gasoline was already being phased out before the golden age of muscle

Unleaded was becoming more and more common

[kind osprey]

https://youtu.be/djE-BLrdDDc?si=IE-2VB3BnbhW3otO

[sterile kayak]

Nah mine is 1/1

Nothing like it

Street legal though

[jagged sentinel]

Corvette owners when someone says it's just another Corvette

[sterile kayak]

True but mine is 1/1

My Bugatti Picanto

2012

W3 engine

[kind osprey]

If I could change one thing about the environment of automobiles it would absolutely be that. People think cars are killing the planet faster than anything on earth

Meanwhile new ice engines spew out practically water

[sterile kayak]

Taylor swift is killing the earth, let us keep our combustion

[kind osprey]

Fr

[sterile kayak]

In one year she put out as much CO2 as like over 400 average Americans

Ridiculous

I just want to hear the roar of an engine

[kind osprey]

I used a paper straw so she can fly her jet across the street 😍

[sterile kayak]

I still use plastic ones cause the turtles choose to eat them, we don’t force them

That’s why instead of paper straws we should make schools for turtles to learn not to eat palsyic

*plastic

[kind osprey]

I don't mind electric cars if they are fun, but nothing would replace the experience of a combustion engine.
A good analogy would be cars are cool, but nothing replaces the experience you get riding a horse around

We shouldn't get rid of one entirely

The world has space for everything

[sterile kayak]

The combustion is what makes a car, a car for me

Just hearing it

Feeling the movement

Putting the dead dinosaurs to use

[kind osprey]

I've driven Rimo karts and the Porsche Taycan. I've never been in a Tesla though

Some ev's can be fun to throw around

But most are shills

Like commuter vehicles

Which makes sense

[sterile kayak]

The high end EVs are great, I like their styling and such but regular everyday ones like Volvos and Mazdas

Burn em

Let me daily a combustions engine

Hybrids are fine

Nothing can beat a cold start

[jagged sentinel]

We're the minority, keep that in mind

[kind osprey]

Most people are not interested in cars the same way we are so let them have their ev's, I only ask that they exempt the high liter combustion engines or high cylinder cars to preserve their legacy

[sterile kayak]

Exactly

[jagged sentinel]

Not everyone cares about cars as a hobby, most people just want transportation

[sterile kayak]

We need to rise up

Start a revolution

[kind osprey]

Like Ferrari and Lamborghini flagships should NEVER not be v12's

[jagged sentinel]

Cute

[kind osprey]

That would be a bad day

[sterile kayak]

Never anything below a V8

[kind osprey]

Lamborghini's need to be 12

[sterile kayak]

I like the 10s more

[kind osprey]

I'm already pissed thw next gen Huracan probably won't be a v10

Because the v10 was naturally aspirated

One of the last mid tier naturally aspirated supercars

[sterile kayak]

The gallardos with the V10 were peak

[kind osprey]

Like $200,000-$500,000

The post Audi Gallardo is extremely underrated

They are reliable single clutch kick with the high pitch v10

For like $120,000

[sterile kayak]

High pitch engine notes is what I like most

Supercharged V8s, V10s

[jagged sentinel]

The Huracan always sounded better than its V12 sibling

I said it

[sterile kayak]

Exactly

[kind osprey]

I would use my last dollar to fly to Europe and drive something like a gma t50, or the Aston Valkyrie

[sterile kayak]

Do it

Combustion till the day I die, unless I get a rimac nevera but that ain’t happening

[kind osprey]

Rimac's are so slidey it's funny

Them partnering with Bugatti makes sense

They are both heavy and luxurious over raw speed

[sterile kayak]

The rezvani beast with the bulletproof package sounds like a dream

Would buy

[kind osprey]

The Hamilton collection has one I believe

The 6x6

[sterile kayak]

I would buy any rezvani tbh

[kind osprey]

It's their most unreliable car haha

[sterile kayak]

Yeah the Hercules

6x6 cars are great

I love rezvani, apocalypse 6x6 and Hennessy

[jagged sentinel]

I'm not even sure how much better they'd be off-road lol

[sterile kayak]

Hamilton collection is great

[sterile kayak]

They just look cooler and sounds better

[kind osprey]

I like the g wagon 6x6 because it is the only 6x6 that isn't ginormous and has complete dedication towards offroad ability

But...

It's like $1,400,000

[sterile kayak]

And for the apocalypse

[jagged sentinel]

It's massive wdym

[sage roost]

Which is why all A to B vehicles should be electrified before the sports cars

[sterile kayak]

True Richard Hammond tested it in a pool

[kind osprey]

Massive in height, but compared to any pickup truck it is tiny

[sterile kayak]

Very off-road capable

[kind osprey]

It's also pretty thin

[sage roost]

I’m more of a fan of the 4x4 squared

[kind osprey]

A pickup 6x6 is typically almost of not 300 inches long

[sage roost]

same height but not 6 wheels

[kind osprey]

Oh that thing is fucking sick

I saw one not too long ago

[sage roost]

it makes the regular G wagon look like a baby

insane

[sterile kayak]

I prefer the Brabus rock crawler, specifically the exposed carbon one

Looks insane

[sage roost]

I don’t really like brabusified cars

[kind osprey]

Imagine parking like that

In Manhattan

[sterile kayak]

Any off-road cars have a way to my heart

[kind osprey]

Dude has no opps

[jagged sentinel]

Counterintuitive design imo but whatever

[sterile kayak]

What they going to do? Tow you?

[kind osprey]

Haha

[sterile kayak]

It’s just great there is no explanation

[sage roost]

There is the exception tho

[kind osprey]

It has the snorkel and everything

[kind osprey]

When the Rolls Royce wasn't fast enough

[sterile kayak]

Yeah but that thing is probably isn’t going to see mud in its life

Unless whistlindiesel gets another

[sterile kayak]

And the Brabus Porsche rocket that I forgot the name of

That is great

[jagged sentinel]

I don't like that

[sage roost]

nah

It’s overdone

[sterile kayak]

I love it

[kind osprey]

A Porsche with more power sounds like death

Fun

The 911 already goes against physics

[sterile kayak]

This is the best daily possible

[sterile kayak]

Make it more defiant

[sage roost]

I saw that same brabus S class coupe but black on black

Loved that thing

[sterile kayak]

This is a mansory s class

The interior is insane

The colours

[kind osprey]

Mansory is so hit or miss. They either make the goofiest shit known to man or actually decent stuff

Like that two door urus

[sage roost]

mansory wants to forged carbon the world

[sterile kayak]

Yeah the 296 GTB terrible but that s class makes a great beast to use everyday

[sterile kayak]

I’m with them for it

[kind osprey]

Forged carbon looks like a black countertop with a bunch of finger prints on it

[sterile kayak]

That thing scares me and how do you get in the back

[kind osprey]

The door is larger

That urus is perfect for someone like Shaq

Lol

[sage roost]

all the space to himself

[sterile kayak]

This, there is no explanation is just weird

[sage roost]

ewwww

[sterile kayak]

I hate it

[sage roost]

no thanks

[jagged sentinel]

If you don't mind German reliability

[sterile kayak]

True but it was made Swiss

[kind osprey]

The front looks like a bookshelf

[sterile kayak]

Anyway what is your people’s favourite vehicle that has been modified by a company e.g the Hennessy Mammoth 1000

[sterile kayak]

True

[sage roost]

BMW boys will keep arguing that the new beemer engines are Toyota reliable

not sure about merc’s

[kind osprey]

This trend of performance suvs just bothers me. If you want performance just get something lighter and lower to the ground

[sterile kayak]

Mine has got to be the Hennessy Exorcist

[kind osprey]

Yea the supra may be controversial, but they definitely helped bmw's last more than 3 years

they last 7 now

[sage roost]

I love the cayenne turbo GT

Maybe hot take

[kind osprey]

The Porsche suv is old so that's a rare exception for me

[sterile kayak]

The only lifted vehicle I want

[kind osprey]

Porsche has been making them for decades at this point but something like a Ferrari suv just bothers me

[sterile kayak]

It’s not old?

[sterile kayak]

Same

They has been many generations though

[kind osprey]

They started in 2004 I think

[sage roost]

Do you not want a V12 swapped Mazda CX30

[sterile kayak]

I don’t

[kind osprey]

Hmmm

[sterile kayak]

They should stick to their super cars

Rather than a weird looking monster

My whip is great.

[sage roost]

I mean, it’s not like I’ll say no if I was offered that car

[kind osprey]

Yea the engine in the Ferrari cx30 is impressive and the suspension system is cool but it's just weird looking

[sterile kayak]

Same but if I had the budget I wouldn’t buy it

[sage roost]

It’s basically a lifted Roma with weird proportions

[sterile kayak]

With that money I know what I would buy

[kind osprey]

Twins

[sterile kayak]

Damn

We ballin fr

[kind osprey]

I brought the f1 and the nsx with me to Florida

[sterile kayak]

Damn

I left mine in my pocket and kind of took it from the UK to a Caribbean cruise

[kind osprey]

Lol

[sage roost]

An Audi RS6 and a 911 GT3

[sterile kayak]

I also own multiple paganis

[sterile kayak]

But would you get an allocation for the GT3 or buy a used one?

Cause allocations are impossible to get with Porsche

[jagged sentinel]

It's a hypothetical situation in the first place so obviously an allocation

[sterile kayak]

Especially for the GT3 and GT3RS

[sterile kayak]

Fair

[sage roost]

well if I had that kind of money I can definitely buy a couple macans and Carreras to get the allocation

[sterile kayak]

You need more than a couple

[jagged sentinel]

Or give a generous donation to the dealership

[kind osprey]

I would just buy one used allocations are such a bitch

[sage roost]

I definitely didn’t spend hours on the configurator just to buy a used Porsche

smh

[sterile kayak]

A purosaungue starts at £320k

[sterile kayak]

Same

[jagged sentinel]

[kind osprey]

If I won the lottery I would just find a gt3 rs with a good enough spec to be happy with and pay the $400,000

[sterile kayak]

For me I would get a turbo s and an M3 comp tourer

[sage roost]

if I won’t the lottery I’d buy Porsche itself

[kind osprey]

Lol

[sterile kayak]

You would have to win a lot

[kind osprey]

Yea I guess if you're worth a few hundred million you can just recieve am allocation without the hoops

[sage roost]

seriously if I did win the lottery I’d rather a GT3 with MR package over the RS icl

looks better

and I’m definitely not fast enough to feel the 5 second difference on the Nurburgring

[kind osprey]

This is my "win maybe $4m-$10m" garage

Like reasonable cars nothing hypercar level

[jagged estuary]

Oh piastri fan here

[jagged sentinel]

Honestly for a track machine I'd probably get a Camaro ZL1 1LE or a C8 Z06

[jagged estuary]

Hallo raptor

[jagged sentinel]

"Porsches are faster around a track" I don't care

[kind osprey]

I want something under 2400 pounds for a track car since I'm not too worried about top speed

I like braking later and feeling less roll

[sage roost]

a built 90s civic

[kind osprey]

That works

But it's fwd

[sage roost]

9000 rpm

[jagged sentinel]

I'm more concerned about sound and stability, both of which the 6th gen Camaro has a good reputation for

[kind osprey]

I'm not too fond of fwd but it's not something I dislike

[sage roost]

300 horsepower for 900 kilos

[jagged sentinel]

Porsches sound good, yes, but I like the sound of American pushrods more

[kind osprey]

Porsche's are cheat codes

They make everything else feel bland so I wouldn't drive a Porsche around the track much

It'll ruin me

[jagged sentinel]

If I was rich enough, crazy enough and good enough, I'd probably get a Noble M600 and LS-Swap it or something

And add ABS because I like stopping safely

[sage roost]

there’s also the Schirmer BMWs if you had a bigger budget

[kind osprey]

Abs is no fun, skid into the wall like your ancestors

[sage roost]

okay, but my pick

[kind osprey]

[sage roost]

the viper ACR

those twin turbo 9L versions

[jagged sentinel]

Our ancestors didn't know how to turn right so I'm fine with that

Now we can turn right with the best the other countries can

Ford figured it out first and now Chevy stole their thunder

[sterile kayak]

Hennessy exorcist

Love em

[jagged sentinel]

Too much power

[sterile kayak]

Camaros are great in my opinion doesn’t matter what gen

[sterile kayak]

Fair I would probably use it for street racing or something

Just in case

[jagged sentinel]

You'll get less grip on the street than on a track

Especially with how little the other components are upgraded to compensate for said power

[sterile kayak]

Don’t care about grip I want to skid and hit a crowd

But I won’t it’s not a mustang

[jagged sentinel]

Hellcats are pretty good at spinning the rear wheels

[sterile kayak]

I hate hellcats purely due to takeovers

I don’t understand why people do takeovers they are awful

[jagged sentinel]

2.0 GPA activities

I just automatically assume people who enjoy takeovers to be in a lower intelligence bracket to the rest of us

[sterile kayak]

Takeovers is what ruins the car scene for me

[sterile kayak]

Exactly

[kind drift]

Au falcon

[jagged sentinel]

I refer to international motorsport

[kind drift]

Au falcon is best skid car tho

[jagged sentinel]

Anything can skid with the right setup

[kind drift]

Imma do some doughies in my peel p50

[heady swift]

I would personally go for a giulia sprint GTA, lotus 3-11 and peugeot 205 t16 turbo

wouldn't mind a tz2 either

beautiful

[kind osprey]

Very European lol

nice

[jagged sentinel]

Something about old Italian shooting brakes...

[sterile kayak]

My car has a higher power to weight ratio than a Dacia duster

[sterile kayak]

Somebody should change a Mazda MX-30 into a Ferrari Purosangue

[kind osprey]

Yea just replace the oem headlights with Toyota prius lights and remove/paint the plastic trim pieces

[heady swift]

Hehehehe

Easier with maintenance

[heady swift]

Yeah beautiful

Always been fond of efficient cars and this one had a small 4 cyl

[kind osprey]

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/3vNaLwvR/2015-aston-martin-v8-vantage-gt

I wannnn it

[sage roost]

CARSSS AND BIIDS!!

[tawny dagger]

Imma buy it just so you can't

[kind osprey]

Don't worry, I can't regardless xD