transportation

[hybrid charm]

I started with a $1000 Honda prelude

[onyx rivet]

seat is spanish?

[dim mango]

yeah it is

[hybrid charm]

Yeah but you don't get seat outside europe

[dim mango]

i'm in europe... not uk 😂

[onyx rivet]

a british person would start with a vauxhall, an opel or a ford, from what i can gather

[hybrid charm]

And those sort of cars are only popular in the UK and shit

Yeah

[onyx rivet]

i suppose there is nothing wrong and there is no such thing as a bad starter car
as long as it beats walking

[dim mango]

the seat leon is common here in poland

maybe i can cop a leaon r

leon r

[hybrid charm]

Hm fair

[dim mango]

my home country is malaysia though, and car taxes are insane there

[hybrid charm]

I figured Poland would have a lot of ladas and BMW/mercs

[dim mango]

almost nothing on the streets back at home other than a few mustangs and gtr r35s

[hybrid charm]

How bad is malaysia

Here we have basically a 45% tax for luxury cars

[dim mango]

there are many german cars here, but not ladas in my city

[hybrid charm]

What was the main car brand like 30 years ago

[dim mango]

geez

where are you

[hybrid charm]

Australia

[dim mango]

huh

[hybrid charm]

A Bentley continental GT mulliner is about 500k AUD in Britain
And here it's 730k

[dim mango]

but you guys have ford fpv

those are cool

[onyx rivet]

australia is a shit place for a first world developed country

[hybrid charm]

Hsv better

[dim mango]

idk the numbers, but heres the wiki page https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysian_motor_vehicle_import_duties

[hybrid charm]

Australia is pretty shit but better than UK Canada and usa

[dim mango]

it's bad, i can tell you that much

[onyx rivet]

**used too, they died on their arse after all ford manufactuered in australia ceased

[hybrid charm]

Of the English speaking countries I would say Aus and NZ are the best

All manufacturing in Aus ceased

There's exactly 0 cars manufactured here

[dim mango]

fuckkk i didnt know that

[hybrid charm]

NZ MENTIONED RAHHHHHH

Yeah aus-nz basically the same country

[dim mango]

real

[onyx rivet]

thats why last gen ZB Commodres were really Opel Insignias

or Buick regals if you live in N/A

[hybrid charm]

Yeah they only exist to fulfil the commodore contracts for the cops and shit

[dim mango]

in malaysia, we have national brands (Perodua and Proton) that are extreeeemely popular because of price

[onyx rivet]

only for them to stop using them in fleets

hang on , thats not true, theyre still there

[dim mango]

they're mostly fairly boring cars though, and proton is a brand i don't trust for reliability

[hybrid charm]

Didn't know proton was Malaysian, never heard of perodua

[dim mango]

mmm they mostly just sell in malaysia

[dim mango]

proton did get bought by gheely like 3 years back

[hybrid charm]

Geeky ew

[dim mango]

still considered malaysian though ig

[dim mango]

but on the upside, they own volvo, so the new proton SUVs have good engines

volvo engines

[hybrid charm]

But Volvo is still volvo

[dim mango]

*geely owns volvo

[hybrid charm]

Yea

But Volvo isn't great

[dim mango]

true, but any european car is impressive next to a proton

[hybrid charm]

And geely is straight trash
Just like Tata and whatever they own

[dim mango]

other than their latest gen, protons are mostly all shitboxes

[hybrid charm]

Yeah true

And Volvo's are pretty reliable

[dim mango]

polestar is cool imo

[hybrid charm]

Yeah it is pretty cool but would still never buy one

[dim mango]

fr

what's your job?

[hybrid charm]

I daytrade

Forex, futures commodities and sometimes crypto, no job

[dim mango]

huh cool

what's that like?

[hybrid charm]

Uh very stressful lol

[dim mango]

i met one guy that does daytrading but haven't spoken much to him

[hybrid charm]

But overall good and scalable and I don't have to answer to anyone

[dim mango]

yeah tht's nice

i'm studying medicine, so no nice cars for me (yet)

[hybrid charm]

Yeah I'm not rich yet either

On track though

[dim mango]

i'd love to get something like an elise in the future though

a TT r

would also be cool

[hybrid charm]

Lotus are cool cars but I feel like I'd be disappointed since I'd never be able to drive them cause it would be at a mechanic 24/7 lol

[dim mango]

haha, are they all know for reliability issues?

i don't know that much about lotus

[hybrid charm]

Lotus is know for
Lots
Of
Trouble
Usually
Serious

[dim mango]

only seen a few back in malaysia

audis are cool though

ooooh a 1st gen R8

that would also be great

[hybrid charm]

R8 respectable

Good reliable affordable daily supercar

But TT rs I do not like

[dim mango]

why not?

[hybrid charm]

And other Audi's are boring except the rs3 / rsq8, but at that point get a urus instead

Tts look bad and they are chick cars
But they drive good and objectively good cars

[dim mango]

rs5 avant is pretty cool imo

that's cause we have no wagons at all where i come from though

[dim mango]

true, and true

a silver tt looks alright tho

[hybrid charm]

Yeah it's subjective anyway

I don't mind the RS5 and rs7 coupe
But not a wagon fan

[onyx rivet]

No wonder you are able to consider an LC and a M8 lmao

[hybrid charm]

Ha lol I was working at a gas station until a month ago I only started full-time trading recently
those cars atleast 6-8 months away

[jagged sentinel]

Idk where you're from but america doesn't get many cool wagons anymore and it sucks

[dim mango]

malaysia has no wagons, period. there is one single person in my state with an old yellow volvo wagon and that might be the only wagon in the nation

[jagged sentinel]

The last cool american wagon we got was the magnum SRT8 and the only cool one you can get now is like the RS6

[dim mango]

mind, it's a big country with a lot of cars. i guess nobody want to import wagons?

[dim mango]

that dodge looks hella cool, damn

[hybrid charm]

The only new wagons now are BMW and Audi right

And the volswagen arteon/golf/Passat shit

Oh and Skoda

[dim mango]

i saw a panamera wagon a few days ago here in poland

[hybrid charm]

Oh wait nvm there's quite a few

Forgot about porsche

[dim mango]

yeah its all german

mhm

[loud spade]

I was surprised when I knew a lot of cars/other type of vehicles don’t get imported to the US

Scooters for some reason are looked down upon

So they have no market

[dim mango]

'murican big gas engines

thats why

[dim mango]

other than the hobbyists

vespas are cute

[hybrid charm]

Scooters suck lmao

[jagged sentinel]

It's has a lot of Benz components so it might just last past 100,000

[hybrid charm]

Literally 0 sex appeal

[jagged sentinel]

America is the land of the automobile; land of the big cat

[loud spade]

No u

Well depends

[hybrid charm]

Get a real motorcycle

[jagged sentinel]

Infrastructure built to accommodate bigger vehicles and an economy that's semi-consistently allowed average people to get said big full-sized vehicles

Normal NPC cars powered by Diesel aren't huge here either and I think I know why

[loud spade]

I don’t like small 150cc scooters but they do seem to be very convenient. However I like maxi scooters like the silverwing/tmax/burgamn because they have enough power, lots of storage and are both fun and convenient at the same time

[jagged sentinel]

The average distance people need to drive... Anywhere really, is bigger in the US, remember that

[loud spade]

Nothing a maxi scooter can’t handle

They have upwards of like 20L tanks

[jagged sentinel]

Can it handle 75 miles per hour on a highway?

[hybrid charm]

I'll admit having storage is great, the amount of times if been riding with no wet weather gear or had to stuff things into my pants to carry them, or straight up done stupid shit t try and transport things on my bikes is crazy

But you don't buy 2 wheels for practicality

@jagged sentinel I've heard Americans cry about 30min commutes

[loud spade]

A 600cc can handle that yeah, but it’s much more comfortable around like 65

[jagged sentinel]

That's another thing; americans always just... Have stuff

[hybrid charm]

And Europeans tbf

Australia is empty so we drive quite a lot
But for some reason our roads are small AF and your American trucks barely fit here

We should be the greatest driving country in the world but for some reason our roads and infrastructure are dog shit

[loud spade]

I have to admit though, "real" motorcycles are a lot more fun

[jagged sentinel]

Are RVs and camper trailers popular in other countries?

I wouldn't be surprised if they were in AU

[loud spade]

But then you lack the storage and convenience

[hybrid charm]

Yeah after commuting on moto for years I will never again buy one for practicality
Only as a second/third vehicle for fun

[loud spade]

So scooters are a nice middle ground

Btw, what did you ride?

[hybrid charm]

You get storage but you can't go cross country and you are still weather's bitch

[jagged sentinel]

You are at the mercy of the road conditions, and if it's snowy, icy or wet then you're in for a fun time

[loud spade]

Fun time more like death

[jagged sentinel]

4WD/AWD is very handy

[hybrid charm]

First bike was a 2020 ninja 400
Second was an r3 (sold after 2 months it wasn't great, ninja far better)

And third was a Husqvarna vitpilen 401

[jagged sentinel]

Yeah that's what I was alluding to

[hybrid charm]

Was limited to <660cc bikes here due to age and license restrictions

It is dangerous but it also gives you a sixth sense
Once you get used to soccer mom SUVs cutting you off every 30 seconds you can basically predict what every vehicle on the road is gonna do

It translates to car driving too, you get pretty good at weaving through traffic

But yeah all it takes is 1 oil spill or 1 mistake from another driver to become roadkill lol

[jagged sentinel]

That phenomenon reached your shores too? God have mercy

[hybrid charm]

Lol yeah

[loud spade]

lmao

[hybrid charm]

Everyone talking about road toll and how dangerous driving is

Like bruh I can speed and I'm still a safer driver than boomers and soccer mom's in their Mazda cx9

People irl drive like GTA NPCs fr

[loud spade]

That’s plenty to be fair, bigger bikes are just too heavy

[jagged sentinel]

Idk how y'all drive but the way I do, bikers and truckers (semis and RVs and such) get the right of way

[loud spade]

Over here there’s no legal right of way

[hybrid charm]

Trucks and bikers are always chill I stay out their way and give em plenty of space even if I'm overtaking

[jagged sentinel]

I forget that right of way is a uniquely American concept

[hybrid charm]

Bruh what everywhere has right of way

@loud spade where?

[loud spade]

Somewhere in the middle east

[jagged sentinel]

What I mean is that I give them space and get out of their way if they need to change lanes or something

[hybrid charm]

Yep 💯

[jagged sentinel]

I mean mostly in a legal sense

[loud spade]

Yeah we don’t have that, it’s just up to the person

[jagged sentinel]

Obviously common sense is a thing

[hybrid charm]

I respect trucks, bikes and people in nice cars

The rest idc I drive like a maniac

[loud spade]

I mean generally the left lane is the "fast" lane and I think that goes for all countries with steering wheels on the left

And the right lane is slower

Because there’s exits and such

[jagged sentinel]

Right lane to my understanding is only for people about to exit

Left lane is for passing or going 10+ over the limit

[hybrid charm]

Yeah
Other way round here but yeah

[loud spade]

So you’re just left with the middle lane

[hybrid charm]

Nah always drive in the fast lane

Just make sure you go fast

[loud spade]

[jagged sentinel]

My car isn't worth speeding in so iont do dat

[hybrid charm]

Lol I used to drive a van for work deliveries parcels

Id skid that shit round corners if I didn't have any fragiles in the back

I cannot drive normally I just zone out

[jagged sentinel]

My car wouldn't let me do that, even if TC was off

"intelligent AWD" go brr

[hybrid charm]

Subie?

[jagged sentinel]

Ford

[hybrid charm]

What car??

[jagged sentinel]

Maverick

New one

[hybrid charm]

There's a new one?

[jagged sentinel]

Yes

[loud spade]

An American driving a Ford, who would have guessed

[hybrid charm]

Wtf it's a truck?

[jagged sentinel]

Easy there

[hybrid charm]

Ford maverick is a Nissan patrol here

[jagged sentinel]

It's on the escape frame, so not an actual truck frame

[hybrid charm]

It was an SUV in the 90s

[jagged sentinel]

It behaves like an SUV in every driving aspect

It just has 2/3 of a truck bed

[jagged sentinel]

This one isn't mine but it's specced exactly the same

[hybrid charm]

Id it just me or would it look cool as an suv

[jagged sentinel]

It's SUV

Nobody can convince me otherwise

Not on a truck frame, doesn't have truck towing capacity, doesn't have a full-size bed, and just feels like an SUV

[jagged sentinel]

At that point just get a ranger or expedition

[dim mango]

and?

scooters are just fun

[jagged sentinel]

The maverick is a vehicle for people who want a truck but are honest with themselves

[hybrid charm]

I need vehicles to look good
If it isnt sexy I don't want it

Scooters are pretty fun tho

But it's like cheap stupid silly fun not a real vehicle

[jagged sentinel]

I know for a fact that owning trucks and not needing them is a very american concept

[hybrid charm]

Nobody needs trucks they just look cool

[jagged sentinel]

Because anyone I've ever talked to about it from any other country doesn't understand it or doesn't like it

[hybrid charm]

Yeah in Australia we have a lot of utes but we actually use them lol

[jagged sentinel]

No offense intended of course, it's just an observation

[dim mango]

and comfort

[hybrid charm]

Scooters aren't comfortable g

You want a car for comfort

[loud spade]

Yeah only some of them are comfortable

But they’re a hell of a lot more comfortable than a bike

[hybrid charm]

Maybe the maxi ones but normal scooters have tiny wheels and fuck all suspension

The touring ones yeah

[loud spade]

Only comfortable if they have lumbar support

[dim mango]

scooters look good just not sexy 😂

[hybrid charm]

But still if you want comfort you get a car

[loud spade]

Agree

[hybrid charm]

I strongly disagree

[dim mango]

next to most motorbikes, they are

[loud spade]

This ain’t cheap

[dim mango]

yeah fs

[dim mango]

i'm talking small engine scooters

[loud spade]

2023 TMAX full option costs over 10k

Upwards of 15k

[hybrid charm]

10k USD?

[dim mango]

this is ugly as fuck

[loud spade]

Yeah

Honda isn’t this expensive

[loud spade]

I’ll have to disagree

It looks good

[hybrid charm]

All scooters are ugly as fuck

[loud spade]

Maybe not this model

[hybrid charm]

And most cruisers and naked bikes too

[loud spade]

But it doesn’t look bad

[hybrid charm]

And anything with chrome

That tmax is good looking for a scooter but if i see it on being ridden on the road it's still Derpy AF lol

It's like this 3 wheeled can am spyders

When I first saw one I thought it was a motorcycle for disabled people lol

[loud spade]

You can’t tell me this objectively looks bad

And mind you it was first released in 2001

[dim mango]

not vespa type

[dim mango]

also this is a moped, no?

i wouldnt call that a scooter

[loud spade]

What’s that

It’s a maxi scooter

[dim mango]

it does look bad

[loud spade]

Is the vespa the only scooter you like then?

[loud spade]

That’s what I’m understanding here

And imo the vespa looks meh

It’s also overly expensive

[hybrid charm]

They all suck lol

Buy a brutale 1000rr

[loud spade]

How much do you want to spend on fuel: YES

[hybrid charm]

Bruh it's a bike the fuel consumption is nothing even if it's 1000cc

Again, if you can afford to drop 50k on a bike you can afford the fuel

[short lion]

my dad drives one of those double front wheel piaggios

dont need a bike license for them here

[loud spade]

I can already imagine how goofy that looks

[short lion]

its fine

[kind osprey]

they do share things like having four wheels, and two doors. if that is what you see similar about them

[kind osprey]

I wish cars could be that cheap again

[loud spade]

Ok that looks alright

I expected way worse

Still goofy though

[fast edge]

i cannot think of much worse

it looks like a medieval knight helmet and a sad horse at the same time

[kind osprey]

Why does this exist

[short lion]

because it's classified as a car and you dont need a bike license

[kind osprey]

Really?

[short lion]

yes

[kind osprey]

Lol

[onyx rivet]

do they not share some similar designs and motif?

in retrospect i should have used a mouse and lowered mouse speed

im also ignoring the body lines, the kink in the b/c-pillar windows, the bootlid, the lower bumper and the roofline and antenneas, because they are more or less universal now in terms of desgin of a 2door coupe
i had to highlight the wheels though, they both round and made of alloy and have bits of rubber placed over

[hybrid charm]

they still are

you can buy shit cars for $1000 still

my car lasted 2weeks before i got a defect notice for my straight pipe + no front/rear bumper +strippedinterior

[kind osprey]

The bmw is a lot more rounded off and the lexus has a boxier finish

If you look hard enough you could probably find small things that are similar at the end of the day

Design language is what companies use to be unique so most good car brands stay pretty creative and make it easy to spot their brand from any angle of the car

[onyx rivet]

like da wheels!

[kind osprey]

They are both black I guess

What is similar about them?

[onyx rivet]

yeah your observations are a fair

[onyx rivet]

they are both uh round?

i was kidding with the wheels

[kind osprey]

Ah

[onyx rivet]

five lugs too

[kind osprey]

Because they are both technically 10 spoke so there's that

Bmw rims look like they are 3d printed from a videogame lol

[onyx rivet]

i do like their rims, they're funky and uniquely bmw

im assuming because nothing is coming to my mind right now, theyre unique

im excluding aftermarkets for that above statement

[kind osprey]

It's like retro and future at the same time

They did a nice job with them

[onyx rivet]

yeah, i actually understand that statement

[zenith kindle]

Does anyone know which is the best jdm car in the game right now ??

[old sedge]

I wonder, what would be cleaner in emissions, Euro 5 gas engine or Euro 4 electric-gas engine hybrid assuming that they have same displacement size and same car?

[hybrid charm]

armored kuruma

[hybrid charm]

who cares about emissions

[old sedge]

EPA does

[hybrid charm]

epa who

[jagged sentinel]

American company that killed the music car

Something about people dying from carbon monoxide poisoning

[misty kiln]

Tbat is a terrible point to be made

[steady cove]

What the fuck

Razer car

[kind osprey]

Uhhh

[night steeple]

so theres a clip floating around of a cybertruck towing a porsche drag racing a porsche
that's the most pointless dick swinging competition I've ever seen lmao

lemme just buy a cybertruck instead of one of the best sports car ever made because it won by half a car length

[onyx rivet]

its a stunt that tesla brown-nosers and/or electric apologists can get behind

[odd hazel]

It’s gonna have overheating issues

[night steeple]

lexus is the last brand I'd imagine razer to partner with, somehow I can see why, lexus and their designs are way over the top, now with RGB

[hybrid charm]

Lexus razer is actually epic

Hopefully there's a razer edition lc500

[misty kiln]

Damn grand tour getting axed sucks

[old sedge]

With Nissan, Honda and Toyota having their luxury brand/division, I'm surprised Mitsubishi, Subaru and Mazda don't have such.

[quartz prawn]

mitsubishi is dead now so theres really no point
mazda tried to make a luxury division in the 90s called amati but failed due to the rising economy

[old sedge]

Mitsubishi is still doing well here at least, not sure in other countries

[onyx rivet]

no more three british men and their sheningans??

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-67572414

shame

i guess if you still wanna see clarkson do some farmwork, or if you wanna see may be a tourist, they are still there, so they're arent disappearing from the tele

[hybrid charm]

They are better together tho

Clarkson's farm is good but no car content and no trio

[kind osprey]

The marketing team for the cybertruck are geniuses. They pull all the strungs that make children and non car enthusiasts go "wow that has got to be the best thing ever made"

Because if you get kids to like it then it goes on wall posters and they grow up with nostalgia for it

[sage roost]

agreed

that was a base model carrera as well

a turbo S would probably mop the floor with the cybertruck that doesn’t even tow anything

[kind osprey]

That and they are experimenting with a hybrid turbo s

That may be the fastest 0-60 production car if they do it well and do it right

Tesla is great at marketing and their funny gimmicks

[sage roost]

there’s this saying

a microwave cooks faster than a grill

but who wants a microwaved burger

[kind osprey]

When I saw the Porsche thing for the cybertruck I wasn't angry or thinking of how absolutely pointless it was. I was hysterically laughing

Because only tesla would do some goofy shit like this to market a pickup truck

It reminded me of all their other stunts

[kind osprey]

Yea that's true. For a true experience the noise of an engine can mean everything

Electric sports cars and supercars are very capable and have many benefits but I don't think it should be "this town ain't big enough for the two of us" mentality when it comes to ev's.

[sage roost]

like their original cybertruck presentation

[kind osprey]

Which governments banning gas cards makes it to be

[sage roost]

I only remember brief moments from it

but something along the lines of bulletproof glass that shattered when a rock was thrown at it

[kind osprey]

Ev's and ice cars can be here at the same time and as time passes even if Ev's become so good that it makes ice's obsolete, we should still have hypercars and supercars like Pagani, Gma, Ferrari, Lamborghini, and Bugatti's making engines just for the art and engineering of it

[sage roost]

exactly. Id use a microwave for other things

[kind osprey]

If I had fuck you levels of money I would probably daily a Porsche Taycan. I wouldn't have many ev's but I definitely would have like one or two

Taycan and the 2009 original tesla roadster

The original roadster is just sick I love that thing

[sage roost]

Porsche did say they’ll keep making ICEs for “as long as possible” with their biofuel project

[kind osprey]

The synthetic fuel experiments are really cool

They work perfectly fine but rn they are too small and too expensive for mass markets

You can only get the synthetic fuel at their testing facility in South America near Antarctica and it costs about $40 a gallon to produce

We have it. But we're just a long way from it

[sage roost]

on the topic of synthetic fuels

a former F1 driver did a showcase run last year in a V12 F1 car using synthetic fuel

the sound of the V12.

[kind osprey]

F1 cars with more cylinders are one of the few reasons I wish I was sometimes born ten to fifteen years earlier

That and bitcoin

I would have absolutely been stupid enough to buy bitcoin at like $8 a pop back then

If I was my age now in say 2010

The thing is though I would've most likely sold it really early either way come to think of it. There is no way I would have held all of it to 2017 when it spiked for the first time

One product I think becoming an ev is beneficial are go karts. Having them be ev's gives them the ability to be used indoors consecutively, and have a better center of gravity

Ev go karts can be very fun and good practice since they are usually cheaper

[sage roost]

I don’t see karts going EV

maybe the very slow ones for your average person that doesn’t know much about Motorsports but

the “proper” karts should be ICE

there’s shifter karts that 100mph+

those are rad

[kind osprey]

Shifter karts and typical consumer karts are two very different things

But I could see a time where the professional karts could have an ev future

I think the shift really stops once you get out of kart type vehicle and go into smaller formulas

A formula e type race for karts could be an interesting addition

[hybrid charm]

Electric is good for a lot of things but not consumer road vehicles

Karts, dirt bikes, public transport

[hybrid charm]

Yep

Sex robots could be very good but real women are better

[kind osprey]

it's just fine for most consumer road vehicles.

Generic cars that regular peoiple use to get to school, work, and go grocery shopping could be electric and many people wouldn't care

it only becomes an issue when you start forcing it upon people rather than incentivizing

[hybrid charm]

No I mean from an environmental/supply/manufacturing standpoint

Battery packs need to be replaced often, are very expensive and require rare earth materials

Billions of electric cars is a ridiculous idea

Also electric grids cannot support ev infrastructure so electricity production will need to ramp up

Solar panels are also very expensive and take up a lot of space
And people cry when they hear the word nuclear
So grid is still supplied by fossil fuels anyway

There's literally no point in replacing private commuter vehicles with electric cars
Public transport on the other hand could be very efficient

[old sedge]

So, is Tesla still a joke?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyrTLYyIvNI

Who would pick Porsche over Tesla now?

If Tesla improves the Cyberbeast, it might even become faster than McLaren and Bugatti supercars and hypercars

[onyx rivet]

sure, i would pick the Porsche, regardless if it loses by two or three car lengths
im not crossing-shopping either too

Cant really be surprise because the spec sheets immediately and objectively go to the Cybertruck in performance

Whether or not you admire that stunt is up to you or not to decide, i suppose

[old sedge]

Hmmmm, I'm sure it won't be far before Tesla builds a Cybertruck faster than the Agera RS and SSC Tuatara

[onyx rivet]

In what metric?
The Cybertruck, the Tuatara and the Agera RS are all chasing different things

[kind osprey]

This test is utterly useless, it is simply just a funny marketing gimmick to impress kids and non car enthusiasts, which is Teslas main demographic

I personally found it to be hilarious, their marketing team is genius

[kind osprey]

That is not physically possible

Tesla could make their roadster really fast for sure, but not the boxy pixelated Halo 1 car

[old sedge]

Oh well, back to reality then. Their marketing team is probably a lot better than their quality control team.

[hybrid charm]

Drag races are shit

Everyt ime I look up 'car vs car's I get dumbass drag races

Bruh idgaf compare the fookin cars

[runic badger]

Are you looking for a review?

[oak bone]

bet

yo bro

[maiden carbon]

whats up gang why u replying to my 2020 message lol

[hybrid charm]

@runic badger yeah but almost every 'vs' video so a drag race or spec comparison

[dim mango]

[night steeple]

in my pursuit of collecting american muscle car models, I came across a hellcat, they also have a cybertruck but it was oddly beige, not stainless steel, got the dodge

a dodge charger is really easy to find, but they're all skim beeble chargers, and I really really hate that xd

[steady cove]

Razer car

[sage roost]

Gamer car turned into reality

[old sedge]

Hmmmm, idk if this is a culture in your countries, but here, people often park on sidewalks or on top of curbs.

But sometimes, drivers have trouble in getting up on the curbs or sidewalks due to it having no ramp or its gradient being square-ish instead of having round curbs which they trigger wheelspins.

I don't know why they stop by lifting their foot off the throttle when they trigger a wheelspin, they're 0km/h, they're not moving, so my pro-tip is when a wheelspin is triggered at that situation, go full throttle and maintain it until the car actually climbs on the curb.

[hybrid charm]

I like the razer car idea but wasted on an suv

They should partner with supercars or muscle

[onyx rivet]

Honestly surprised they didnt do it on that Lexus van i cant remember the name of

How else are you gonna shove all that gaming paraphernalia while the passenger rages at their monitor on the move?

[mint plank]

@serene helm enjoy my avposting
No. 75 Squadron RAAF's Squadron Tribute Legacy Hornet (Magpie)

[visual mauve]

*Raver car

[night steeple]

*caramelldansen car

[dim mango]

in malaysia, climbing a curb is the first thing you learn in driving school

[old sedge]

Same here, but they don't let us climb the non-curved curbs which cars can't climb without wheelspin though.

But yeah, if a wheelspin occurs at that point, since you're not moving, immediately go full throttle and maintain it, and the car should be able to climb.

[dim mango]

ohh i see, my bad

[sage roost]

https://youtu.be/l49Ehl4Eq6I?si=Vxaq9GX0PICVRArI

sit back and enjoy the sound and incredible racecraft

[hybrid charm]

new question

murcielago sv or aventador svj

and also 488 pista or 765lt

[onyx rivet]

Murcielago SV, and im not too fussy on the 488 Pista or the 765LT

too bad you are gone

[hybrid charm]

Murci SV and 765LT

[sage roost]

Murci and pista

[kind osprey]

Ah he left but I'll answer anyway because this is a cool question

It completely depends on if the murcielago sv is manual

If it is manual then choosing that is the most no brainer decision on earth

[old sedge]

Sometimes, I really think that we really need pop-up headlights, neon lights and rim spinners back.

And I'm quite sad that Subaru has no plans of turning their WRX and STi into e-crossover or e-SUV. 😭

[sage roost]

what.

[kind osprey]

Change nickname, rule 7

https://tenor.com/view/clarkson-jeremy-clarkson-top-gear-gif-19275418

[sage roost]

if only the rules didn’t stop me from doing that

[sage roost]

😍

original poster: https://www.instagram.com/p/C0V-wgouiqA/?igshid=ODhhZWM5NmIwOQ==

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[loud spade]

The Marlboro livery is iconic asf

[kind osprey]

Smoking bad, put a crypto scam on it instead

[kind osprey]

@old sedge New Ferrari suv

[quartz prawn]

better than the purosangue ngl

[kind osprey]

lol

[dim mango]

😱

[old sedge]

It is able to be mentioned.

[old sedge]

This is so beautiful 🥹

[night steeple]

how to piss off enzo for all his shenanigans:

[primal helm]

damn look at these sexy cars

[misty kiln]

Esuv

[night steeple]

found an old 3d project I did back in 2019 when they teased the cybertruck, I thought I could make it in under 30 minutes, therefore I did, added some pavement queen mods to it too, I present to you, cyberbrotruck

it could've looked better if they gave it some sort of side mirror cameras instead of the regular side mirrors the production model got

[fast edge]

it does have cameras and the mirrors just pop off

they're there for regulatory purposes

[jagged sentinel]

Because US government slow lol

[steady cove]

I heard the cybertruck isnt coming to europe

[kind osprey]

How tf did this truck pass basic safety tests

[short lion]

because america is a lawless country

[kind osprey]

I wish, car import regulations are utter shit here

A car has to be 25 years to be exempt from serious registration requirements so if you like a car and it isn't sold in the country you're fucked

The only thing is show and display but they limit that to 2500 miles a year

[short lion]

compare the rules for road worthiness between any state in the us vs germany

[kind osprey]

What are the import laws for Germany?

The road laws must suck ass since you can't legally modify anything

[kind osprey]

California is the worst in the US so I see it as a fair competitor

California is braindead when it comes to cars

[misty kiln]

I reckon what you consider california to be in terms of limitations for modifying cars is nothing compared to places like Germany and here in Australia. America is incredibly lenient across all its states by comparison

[kind osprey]

America is, California isn't

It is a horrible state to own a nice car in

Unless it is like a supercar from factory obviously

[onyx rivet]

that probably to do with lobbying from US-based manufacturers?
i dunno

[jagged sentinel]

It was to prevent people from buying a euro-spec version of a car available in the US for a cheaper price and then importing it

The 25 year length was just an arbitrary number

We'll actually no, if a car is 25 years old it can be registered as a historical vehicle, which exempts it from a bunch of regulatory laws

[old sedge]

What's wrong with Euro-spec?

[old sedge]

Does it mean Ph jeepneys can be exempted there?

[onyx rivet]

its taking away sales from those in America

[old sedge]

If Euro-spec is better, then it shouldn't be a problem.

They're limiting customer choices

[jagged sentinel]

Bingo

[jagged sentinel]

That's not the concern of the US branches of European brands though

The reason the law exists is because of them

[old sedge]

Imo, it shouldn't be a problem for customers if it's taking away sales from those in the US, but it looks like the sellers and the gov't are making it the customers' problems.

[jagged sentinel]

Welcome to America

[old sedge]

Capitalism should only be "Get good or go home"

Same thing with selling cars

Anyway, is it really wrong to say that if you want to reach 60mph or above, don't drive a Suzuki or Hyundai?

[jagged sentinel]

In America you'll be fine with a Hyundai

[old sedge]

How about Suzuki?

[jagged sentinel]

I don't even know if they sell passenger vehicles here

I have seen Suzuki utility trucks/flatbeds

[old sedge]

One time I said that the reason I will not buy Kia and Hyundai is because I want to be fast in highways.

[jagged sentinel]

Things under 200 horsepower are especially rare in america

[old sedge]

Yeah, many cars there have V6 and V8 engines

[onyx rivet]

they are getting faster, arent they?

[jagged sentinel]

Bit of an exaggeration

[onyx rivet]

they arent slouches anymore

[jagged sentinel]

Americans just don't like weak cars and we have the economy and the infrastructure to back that position up

We can extract 200 horsepower from a ballpoint pen nowadays

[old sedge]

If they don't like weak cars, then a 2.0L or even 1.5L I4 turbocharged engine can do just fine.

[jagged sentinel]

Most "NPC cars" here as I call them have I4s and V6s

[old sedge]

Downsizing engines and equipping those with turbos is still a trend.

[onyx rivet]

whats an NPC car in the states

[jagged sentinel]

Boring cars

[onyx rivet]

so, some Toyotas?

[jagged sentinel]

Yes

V8s are mostly reserved for full-size trucks/SUVs and sports cars, we don't cram those into everything anymore

[old sedge]

If you don't want an NPC car, then buy a Honda, Mazda and Subaru.

Those are the fun cars here

[jagged sentinel]

Most of those cars are the definition of NPC cars here

[vestal garnet]

Honda is an npc car tho

[old sedge]

Even Subaru?

[jagged sentinel]

Especially Subaru

[old sedge]

sad WRX and STi noises 😭

[onyx rivet]

there is a loyal fanbase of Subaru drivers in the US, i think

[jagged sentinel]

It's only the WRX and the BRZ that I don't consider "NPC" cars, and even then the WRX barely makes the cut

[onyx rivet]

current gen WRX suck on look alone

[jagged sentinel]

There definitely is

Their sound is quite distinctive

Nothing else like it over here

[onyx rivet]

are Mazdas considerd NPC cars?
i thouhgt they are aiming to be a bit more upmarket

[jagged sentinel]

Yes

[onyx rivet]

to both statements?

[vestal garnet]

Premium "NPC" car

[jagged sentinel]

Mazda are in a bit of a... Transitional period over here

[old sedge]

You know what else? Subaru is a flex car here

Some people still think Subaru is a luxury brand, like on Merc level.

[vestal garnet]

[jagged sentinel]

With all due respect, that's hilarious

[old sedge]

Yeah, Subaru owners flex their cars

[onyx rivet]

what region do you live in

[old sedge]

Sadly, Philippines

[onyx rivet]

because thats absolutley absurd to personally read that Subarus and Mercedes are on the same level

[jagged sentinel]

Some of the cocky ones do that here, but then the car guys remind them what they have to do to get 400 horsepower

[old sedge]

But even here, Subaru SRPs are cheapers than Honda and even Toyota cars

[vestal garnet]

Subaru was never a luxury brand in the 1st place

[onyx rivet]

i dont think they ever tried to be honest

[old sedge]

For example. A Subaru Forester entry level is priced similarly with a Toyota Rav4 and Honda CR-V entry level, but Forester is AWD and have more features than the Rav4 and CR-V which both are 2WD.

[jagged sentinel]

Up until like the mid 80s they were always the funky, gimmicky car brand

Exhibit A:

[old sedge]

You get what I mean

[onyx rivet]

i was gonna mention SVX was a 90s car

[jagged sentinel]

It was in the 80s that they started the transition into a mainstream brand

[onyx rivet]

the Brat was kind of funky too

[jagged sentinel]

The 90s is when they were able to get that ball rolling from what I can gather

And for what it's worth they've done well in the "normal" sector pretty consistently

[jagged sentinel]

I'd say that lines up

[old sedge]

That's why Subaru is actually cheap, so they're basically flexing their cheap car

[onyx rivet]

now they are pretty much unremarkable, aside from their sports/sports-orientated cars

[jagged sentinel]

I suppose in a way that was their goal

[jagged sentinel]

Half of their identity is that blue and gold Impreza, the other half are boring soccer mom bricks

[old sedge]

For some reason, Civic Type R is more expensive than WRX STi

But maybe the Type R is offering some promise, but I still prefer the WRX STi for AWD over Type R's FWD. If only the Type R has AWD.

[onyx rivet]

i would still take the Civic TypeR over the WRX STi, especially if its what we have now

regardless of drivetrain

older ones are different story, though

[mint plank]

New desk model arrived today.
QANTAS Boeing 787-9 Centenary livery.
@serene helm @noble grove

[elfin terrace]

They prob cheap cause of the engine

[serene helm]

Looks good

I may buy a 777 model once

But idk about their prices lel

[mint plank]

Lmao

[mint plank]

@serene helm more rhino posting

https://www.ddinstagram.com/p/C0hqQObBFzq/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

[hybrid charm]

manual murci is the obvious chice for sure but theres lik 6 and i odubt the owners would sell

what do we think f the sf90
i would prefer a pista for looks but the sf90 is a pretty lighweight hybrid and probably the fastest non-electric car rn

[onyx rivet]

i dont care if the LaFerrari is slower, i prefer that over the SF90

which is funny because when it came out, i wasnt impressed about the LaFerrari
but onyl actually started liking it a few months before the SF90 Stradale's release

[hybrid charm]

i dont like the laferrari tbh
looks good in black or yellow form some angles but the rear 3/4 is weird

i like the f8 more than the sf90 but the sf90 is crazy

sf90xx maybe the best

[sage roost]

Laferrari is timeless

show anyone the laferrari and they wouldn’t have guessed it was made in 2013

[hybrid charm]

from the front yeah but from the back the taillights look dated

i mean if youve seen other ferraris
but otherwise yea

[hybrid charm]

yes a bbj 777-9 would be nice
too bad its 450mil

[onyx rivet]

the hybrid-hypercar of the mid 2010s all still look current

[dim mango]

very true

[rugged bane]

You guys think that the upcoming gta drift tuning will turn AWD cars itno RWD?

[kind osprey]

Drift tuning?

[sage roost]

Use #gta-questions

[hybrid charm]

when you move a toy car, is it AWD?

[kind osprey]

It is hand propelled

So no wheel drive

[manic flame]

Negative AWD

[loud spade]

There are so many answers to your question with the given context

Like, what if you mean you’re "moving it" using a remote? What if you spin its wheels really fast and then release it?

What if you release it down a ramp?

[dim mango]

but also

windup cars are always RWD

[kind osprey]

I wonder if they make fwd wind ups

I feel like I had at least one back then

[kind osprey]

If it is an rc car or a push toy car then it has to have a layout configuration. But if it is a matchbox or little hotwheels then it doesn't

[elfin terrace]

Depends on the chassy

[hybrid charm]

Chassis

[old sedge]

I have a good idea to make driving fun

Or at least shorten driving time

Maybe increase highway max speed limit

With turbocharged, V6 and V8 engines being kind of common, maybe the current max highway speeds are too slow?

[hybrid charm]

some highways yes

if people use their brain when designing and building roads then we can easily do a lot faster

idk about american but here in aus our roads are shit
and we have some long ass roads through the middle of nowhere, filled with potholes and kangaroos

if they put some effort into proper fencing and proper roads we could have 250km speeds easy

[onyx rivet]

this wont work because not everyone utilises logical thinking
too incompetent for increased highway speeds

and this the push or the fear for safety is already good enough reasoning

there is also budgeting or the lack of it

why build further facilities for better roads when it (just about) works fine now

[kind osprey]

The speed limit is designed for the idiot, not the average

[old sedge]

Do joyriders count as idiots?

[kind osprey]

the speed limit is there on roads to say "what can a chimpanzee with one arm drive at safety" then they mark it as such

Speed and safety is completely relative. The factors include your reaction time, the car you are in, and the conditions such as type of road contact and weather

so a car with bald tires and an 85 year old may react to someone jumping in the road going 40mph and stop at the same time an a pro champion gt driver in a Ferrari going 90mph

not everyone is a pro driver in a supercar so speed limits are designed on the lower end so they are safe for everyone involved

[old sedge]

So that's why speed limits are as it is although here in Ph, our gov't is studying a possibility to increase the max speed limit in certain big highways to reduce travel times. from 100km/h to 120km/h.

[kind osprey]

If it is a big multi lane highway 74mph (120km) is fine

typically here most people on highways go about 65-80mph

that is are usually range of speed on giant interstate highways in the US

[old sedge]

It is a 6 lane 2 way road

Or rather 8-lane

I can't exactly remember

But our rule is left most lane is always clear because it's only for overtaking, not the fast lane

[kind osprey]

that is mostly universal thankfully, as it should be

it's not as enforced here as it should be

[old sedge]

Oh, afaik, nobody is allowed to stay in the left most lane even if driving at max speed limit

There are left-lane hoggers who are apprehended here thankfully

[kind osprey]

That is how passing lanes should be, they are meant to be clear to pass people in front of you

traffic be gone

[old sedge]

But for Edsa highway, left-most lanes are bus only lanes

[kind osprey]

and it allows emergency services to access the highway better

[old sedge]

However, emergency vehicles, vehicles of president, VP, SP, house speaker and chief justice are allowed to use the bus only lanes

One more thing, I really wish go-karts and F1 become legal for road use. If motorcycles, tricycles and electric scooters can, why not those?

I'm willing to go to our family business with only a go-kart

[vestal garnet]

Good

[kind osprey]

go karts do not last long enough to use daily and are wayy to low to the ground unless you have like a dune buggy styled one to which then i'd so go for it.

but even then the 2 stroke one cylinder in a go kart will only last like 50 miles if you don't push it

f1 cars absolutely do not make any seense to drive on real roads

[old sedge]

Oh. Dune buggy styled? Almost reminds me of Glickenhaus Boot.

[kind osprey]

That is an offroad car that probably weighs a ton

i'm talking about a go kart with bigger wheels and a decent ground clearance

the engine reliability would still be an issue, the only solution is to make it an ev

To which then i'd say why not, it sounds fun. Motorcycles and scooters are around, might as well have little karts in urban areas as well

[hybrid charm]

Thats why I like self driving electric cars

Let the NPCs use them and raise speed limits

I would even be ok with some kind of performance driver training for a high speed license or something

[mint plank]

This is about as close as you'll get

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariel_Atom

[kind osprey]

@old sedge

[old sedge]

Wow, the design looks really good

[kind osprey]

Yea the Bac Mono is sick

[sage roost]

Go karts and F1 cars are FAR from being safe enough to be road legal

I don’t want to imagine someone being ran over by a formula 1 when they have things like this

[short lion]

a steward got split in half on the f1 track before

[sage roost]

EXACTLY

also forgot to mention that F1 cars are all made of carbon fiber and it’s sharp af

[short lion]

doesnt have to be sharp at that speed

[loud spade]

Karts have very shitty suspension and they’re not fit for the road

[sage roost]

They’re also uncomfortable af

drove a rental kart yesterday and my shoulders were fucked afterwards

[hybrid charm]

Ford biggest advocate back at it again with the hot garbage takes

Oh now his name is e-suv advocate

100% trolling

F1 car on the roads would be amazing to see but it should most definitely not be a road car lmao

[manic flame]

Dads Brabus B9, 90°N/A V6, not break neck fast but still cool imo

[kind osprey]

They don’t have any suspension or differentials

But you could get away with driving one in Manhattan or some really urban area with decently paved roads

[kind osprey]

There are many videos of f1 cars driving on public roads

[sage roost]

^yes but they were closed roads obviously

[kind osprey]

Not always

[sage roost]

@kind osprey we had this conversation before about E-karts

drove one yesterday

it wasn’t that fast but it was an indoor track so it felt quick

[kind osprey]

Most of them are like 30-50mph which for indoors is pretty good

I would love to do outdoor but it’s cold af unfortunately

[sage roost]

but tbh i have a better feel for karts with proper engines

Idk why

[kind osprey]

Analog feel maybe

[sage roost]

Yes but kph

it’s obviously not going that fast because the track was available for younger kids

[kind osprey]

That in km/h is like 50-80

I had to convert it

I can’t do specific ones in my head yet lol

[sage roost]

I meant 30-50 kph

[kind osprey]

That’s pretty slow for a go kart

[sage roost]

yeah

But the track was extremely narrow

it’s like Monaco’s F1 track

[kind osprey]

The local place I race at solves the kid and npc issue by being duel track and having two different modes
“Semi pro” and “Pro” which is really
“Children/no clue what I’m doing” and “Regular”

The semi pro is like 28mph and the regulars go up to low 40 ish

[sage roost]

there were mostly NPCs and 1 person that knew what he was doing

[kind osprey]

They have a league race where you compete for prizes and they completely unlock the limiters god only knows what those do when unhinged

[sage roost]

he was just 4 tenths of a second slower than me

it was a 40 second lap approx

[kind osprey]

Nice

I pulled my hamstring so I didn’t get to practice this week

[sage roost]

oof

[kind osprey]

xD

[sage roost]

both work

[kind osprey]

Don’t use shitty leg machines at the gym, big mistake

I hate leg day

[kind osprey]

Absolute W cop

https://youtube.com/shorts/vk9ujw4wsec?si=BUKpUyw07Y5g5G6Y

[tribal lichen]

Absolute L deer

[sturdy hemlock]

paper mache hood

[hybrid charm]

Shoulda dodged it

Weak

[onyx rivet]

user is in a Ford, of course he cant Dodge

[sturdy hemlock]

https://youtu.be/DaCiFE678Zc?si=h6lJZVOEIq63q0LY peak 2008 energy

[mint plank]

https://youtu.be/JzIOCNTl6NY?si=fwSO_V8oL_rAHMXE

[steady cove]

Got what he deserved

[molten robin]

you suck at driving

[hybrid charm]

if you could only own 1 car and you need it for daily driving, road trips, and fun driving/track days, what would it be

no budget and all costs, fuel maintenance etc are covered, but if you break down you dont have a car until its repaired

but you only own 1 vehicle

[nova estuary]

I think the RS6...

[dim mango]

toyota pickup

[hybrid charm]

you gon take a hilux on a canyon drive or a track day?

[loud spade]

I’ll take a modified Nissan Patrol

Probably one that’s sub 1000hp though

[sage roost]

Koenigsegg gemera

[thin elm]

Idk about the reliability

It's still a new car

But its a good choice

[hybrid charm]

im thinking continental gt speed/mulliner

or bmw m8 comp

[sage roost]

M3 touring

[queen zealot]

Probably a nissan patrol y61 tb48

[hybrid charm]

never really liked the GUs tbh

but id take a chopped gq patrol 💯

tb48 is good tho

[loud spade]

W

[queen zealot]

Tb48 would fk up any other 4x4 stock engine icl

[nova estuary]

The perfect family vehicle

[stuck owl]

Shitposting is only allowed in #memes-and-shitposting.

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[dim mango]

hellllll yeah

load her up with some rocket fuel and we're going

tbh, i'd just go for something reliable and useful. nothing beats a pickup on that.

[full nymph]

Panamera

[nova estuary]

I was torn between that and the RS6..

[full nymph]

It's reliable, good looking and not that expensive (the 2010-2011 ones)

[nova estuary]

I am not a fan of that generation's styling, but it's a smarter buy than the RS6 for sure

[full nymph]

The worst looking porsche is def the 1st gen cayenne

[nova estuary]

A guy that lives in my buddy's apartment complex still dailys one lol

[hybrid charm]

rs6 would be pick over panamera but i dont like wagoon

[nova estuary]

I love the wagon, but I think the panamera would be the better one to actually own.

Idk. I'm still torn.

[full nymph]

I usually have to drive a lot of body parts so putting a bonnet in the trunk of a sedan is really hard hahahah

[dull folio]

I'd take a 997.2 Carrera S as a daily, fits my needs + you get a sports car that's practical

[full nymph]

Sometimes impossible if it's too big

[hybrid charm]

body parts?

oh

[full nymph]

Yeah

[full nymph]

Im a painter

[hybrid charm]

yeah i thought you meant like human body parts

[full nymph]

😭

[hybrid charm]

assuming you had a normal job and only needed to carry normal things what would you pick

[full nymph]

Coupe.

I might get an old caddy for parts and an e92 for daily use

[dim mango]

really? which models?

[kind osprey]

If I won the lottery and wanted to drive around town to grab something to eat this would be my go to

it is subtle enough to where no one gives a shit about it, modern enough to feel comfortable, and old enough to feel fun and analog

[sage roost]

yes, but paint it blue and people will instantly recognize it

[kind osprey]

a generation too old but it will make a good Sally's cousin lol

I can't believe they sold a basic 992 911 for $3.6mil just because they called it sally like they could've put more effort into that one off

[jagged sentinel]

If EVs sounded like this I might just think about driving one

I neutral bombed it if you're confused about that start

The Terzo Millennio sounds pretty sweet too

[sage roost]

wait is that not a 996

[dull folio]

Nope, this is a 993 (the gen before the 996 and also the last aircooled 911)

[sage roost]

ahhh

headlights confused me

https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/wc23/the-white-collection/lots/r0067-2019-porsche-911-gt2-rs-weissach/1397686

a special white GT2RS sold for a million dollars

from the white collection

that has all kinds of white Porsches, even the 918 in all white

[onyx rivet]

I'd probably pick any RS6, preferably the C7
or any perfomance wagon for matter
I dont think or recall hearing anything reliable about performance wagons though, especially the E61 M5 Touring

If i cant have a wagons to fang about in (a shame), i guess i would gor for its nearest sedan equivalent 🙃
Prefacelift F90 M5 is the bomb and my favourite part is that it doesnt look like it

I suppose if i have to have a nkn front-engine car, ive heard how usuable the GMA T.50
If the folks at TopGear arent licking the boots off Gordan Murray and and Murray exaggerating, then its really a car that does what you want it to do, with comparatively decent luggage "space", it has the staggered three seat design in the style of the McLaren F1, and absolutely unique on the fan aspect alone
Probably the most analogue cutting-edge car right now

Ove only started thinking about that yesterday when I saw an article while looking at the Cosworth website for fun

It was lime green, it reminded me of a frog but it made me want one more

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Holy fuck... $340,000 IN OPTIONS?!?!

The car is $340,000 base

Jesus

Porsche how do you manage that

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Yeah lmao

options as much as the car

I probably spent an hour scrolling through every car in the white collection

there’s some porches from the 50s and 60s

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I just want the weissach gt2 in a basic ass gray and be done with it. I'm not paying $650,000 for a $300,000 car

That's insane

And for it to be a million 4 years later

Like these people are insane

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So the launch color

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Literally only white Porsches lol

That's so random

Wonder how they started

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yes, it’s called “the white collection”

cheapest car I’ve seen yet is a 944

sold for just 40 grand

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It must've been a very nice example to be $40,000

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Pristine condition

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Those things can be found in hillybilly towns for $6k

What a nice secret santa present

He asked for an anime figure but no he will recieve carburetors

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a 993 turbo S sold for 800 grand

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That's a straight rip off

One went for $550,000 in October

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https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/wc23/the-white-collection/lots/r0052-1997-porsche-911-turbo-s/1397622

take a guess on how much the 918 sold for

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Way too much

Lol

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like a price

an estimate

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So this whole collection was sold at one auction?

Like within a short span?

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yeah

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Damn

Um for the 918

Normal ones go for $1.8-$2.5

So I'd assume 3 mil

For the overpriced white one

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you’re not too far off

3.9

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I'm a 4 bedroom house in a city suburb off

Are these cars all factory white

Cause if so I'm gonna buy a Porsche in white just for the resale lmao

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$84,000 for this?

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Yeah

There’s literally a tractor from the late 50s for almost 60k

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It's not white

I can't believe they would do such a despicable thing

Who tf is paying $60,000 for a tractor

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if you keep looking you can find a racing beetle

ok here’s another, a 993 GT2

guess the price it was sold at

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If I was just stupid rich I would buy that tractor for the sole purpose of driving it to the local Porsche dealership for a "missing part" that I just took off myself

I just wanted to see the employees faces

xD

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there’s another red tractor in there

That was sold for 50k as well

but yeah, 97’ 911 GT2

I doubt it was even remotely close to the price it was sold at

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I'd send in my resignation letter next day lol

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993 gt2's go for easily over a million nowadays

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Yeah well

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/755412864142934046/1183866013788422304/image0.jpg?ex=6589e424&is=65776f24&hm=7e28a013eb40ad3e129508c161741e49d873a63ef6bd329af721f25ba353a7a0&

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fuck that

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It’s one of its kind

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It’s cheaper than the modern tractors

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it's just a mayor manx with tiny AG/Porsche rims

who is paying 80k for that

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collectors

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even if this thing was brand new parts and from factory condition I don't think it is worth over 2

that is actually fucking insane

Regular pristine examples go for half this

https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/wc23/the-white-collection/lots/r0049-1996-porsche-911-carrera-rs/1397626

This might be the only normal priced one

These normally go for 500

https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/wc23/the-white-collection/lots/r0064-2016-porsche-911-gt3-rs/1397678
Someone really bought this just to drive it 30 miles

30 miles...

how tf do you own a gt3 rs and drive it 30 miles

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Probably just drove it home and never again

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That's disgusting

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tf can I trade this for

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Why are there so many random ass European fire trucks for sale

someone must've had a lot sale on these

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Real

Like what

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$24,000 isn't bad for that

https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/az24/arizona/lots/r0037-2019-porsche-911-gt3-rs/1426674

Now this is something I wouldn't mind bidding on

Only 3,465 miles I would be happy to get this for under $300k

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that costs 140 grand less than a white collection 991.1 GT3RS

lmao

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yep

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so overpriced

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the white collection gt3 rs was combinded with the 918 so i understand the price difference

it was like a sub car package sort of how the amg one comes with a gtr black series

But that is all just bragging rights which i couldn't give less of a shit about, I will buy this car to drive around industrial New Jersey and go to Planet Fitness

I don't want a pristine one haha

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The only thing i can use that fire truck for is parades

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or part it out

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True

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rent it for block parties lol

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Ohhh

I never knew a GT3RS came with a 918 order

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but the gt3 rs is like the only car i have ever driven where I was crying to go back in the thing it just isn't like other supercars idk what tf Porsche does

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Porsche actually cares about the Motorsport side

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for someone to just buy it, put 30 miles on it and leave it sickens me

like that's crazy

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the person with the least miles on their Porsche loses

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exactly

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the white collection lost

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it's like saving your wife for the next guy

what philosophy is that

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give me a GT3/3RS/2RS and I’m daily driving that thing idc

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It would be funny if Porsche designed engines to fail on purpose if they're not driven

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That is kinda why I dislike irreplaceable cars, it makes me afriad of pushing them

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I never experienced one on regular public roads but I assume it feels like shit haha

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This is way cheaper than that 80k red go kart 💀💀

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imagine bidding on a 918 for 4 million dollars just for the engine to not start

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ew an ex caliber

what in the old lady villain car

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To some extent parts do fail or degrade if not used enough so it very well could be if they weren't maintained as well as they are

they are paying people to upkeep cars they never drive

which adds insult to injury

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I remember seeing a 997 GT3RS (?) thinking it was a “regular Porsche” when I was younger

Smh

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I mean back then I didn't give a shit about trims or generations so i would have thought the same

"Ooo porsche with wing"

xD

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one time I saw a the 991 GT2RS on the road

It was WILD

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trims and special editions for some cars are just as convoluted as sneaker collecting. People will pay double the asking rate for a fucking color or special stripe

I vow to not be that type of person when loaded as fuck and just buy shitty versions of cars to beat them up

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I think the owner of it had an aftermarket exhaust because the turbo whistle was audible from a distance

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Why would I give myself a reason not to drive the car

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I don't think I ever saw one on the street like in the wild they are too rare

I probably saw them at car shows but here people use "public transit"

I hate dense cities

no fun cars

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Exactly

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ohh I thought you said 993 gt2rs

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give me a GT2RS and I’m taking it to the track every other day

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i've seen a few 991's on my way to work

they are sick

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nah GT2rs

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My mind is boggling words and phrases

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I’ve yet to find the 992 RS, or the regular GT3 for that matter

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germans aree confusing

I've seen a handful of regular 992 gt3's but never a gt3rs those are fucking insane

with that big flat wing

$1,000,000 difference, same car

i feel like I am looking at a sneaker auction

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that’s because it is

A glorified sneaker auction

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wait till you see the MR aero package for it

was caught testing on the Nurburgring

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They'll get about as much mileage after purchase; what's the difference

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Yea nobody is buying used sneakers

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/722877291910266931/1168872043912114176/image0.jpg?ex=655357eb&is=6540e2eb&hm=7f2094785a20f1647a95c37c189c6b9526a06b7869a4a703aafade32d84614b3&

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If I had enough money in highschool I would have hoarded more new shoes I knew which ones still had room to go up but children don't have money

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I wonder if it’ll even pass regulations

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they have to go to school

I hate that

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they deadass looked at the regular GT3RS wing and thought “hmm, that’s a bit too small”

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If I was going to get a road going porsche I wasn't going to track i'd probably get a well specced gts

which is like $200,000

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turbo S tbh

just in case I needed the extra power

oh and specced in Ruby star red

or if I was filthy richer, a Dakar

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If need be I could make the gts a turbo the same way teenagers make their m340i into an m3 haha

it's not classy but it works

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One time a kid rolled up to roll in a Mercedes AMG Black series

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dakar is so useless I would have trobule justifing buying that thing

idk when i would use it

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that’s the thing

I know when and where to use it

I know places where I can do actual “Dakar” stuff

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$250,000 for an e36

idc what edition it is that is ridiculous