transportation

[dry sage]

Also, throttle control should be basic knowledge for that kinda surface.

You don't just floor it in the hopes of going up.

To be fair, I'm far off in terms of off-road knowledge. All I know is if I would've been that guy, I would've at least tried to go up slow.

Unless of course the tire wouldn't do its job, in which case you can't do much about it than "fixing" the tire.

[short lion]

he was driving uphill on sand, you want deflated for grip

[dry sage]

Because the rubber would dig more into the sand, rather than slide off the top?

[sage roost]

A toddler would try more to have better panel gaps

[onyx rivet]

you mean this one?
https://vxtwitter.com/TheWapplehouse/status/1723116545373622430

[dreamy torrent]

L for this truck

[hybrid charm]

What do y'all think about this car?

[sage roost]

yes

love the “regular” 812

Let alone the comp

[old sedge]

Someone said that the EMP claw in Fast and Furious which drains the car's electronics and eventually deactivate the car upon latching on a car body or panel is unrealistic. Is it true?

[sage roost]

Fast and Furious
unrealistic

who would’ve thought

[onyx rivet]

honestly thought it was a little gaudy on release but i've grown to like the 812 Competizione

still prefer the F12tdf though

[heady swift]

Yes, increased contact area and it often molds in the crevices of rough terrain

Exception being snow, where very thin tyres are dominant

[kind osprey]

I would never get it in this color scheme but the car itself is great

[hybrid charm]

Viola Hong Kong is crazy on that car

[kind osprey]

Idk what color that is but I just go buy the basic blue, green, yellow, purple lol

If it's a track car I would never see the point of getting like fancy $90,000 paint on it

It'll get scrated and dinged

[steady cove]

Just saw this

[kind osprey]

Cool

[hybrid charm]

This purple

[hybrid charm]

You can daily it. Or keep it in your garage but it would be stupid if you ask me

[hybrid charm]

Nice M2 Competition

[kind osprey]

That yellow in the middle on both that car above and the black one needs to go

Especially the one above

[hybrid charm]

Totally agree. It ruins the car

[kind osprey]

Yellow does not mix with that at all

Who did that

[hybrid charm]

It's an option you can have from Ferrari

[kind osprey]

The person with the lowest mile supercar loses in heaven

Idk why people don't drive their cars

The pristine examples are in museums already

[sage roost]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzEYq6URk8g/?igshid=ODhhZWM5NmIwOQ==

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this is how the Dakar should be driven

[heady swift]

depends, if it's a track-only car

a simple film will do

but any other environment, especially with snow, sand, dust, gravel

you'd need a very expensive protective coating and be very selective with when or where to drive

[heady swift]

useless car in my book

it would crumble under heavy terrain

insead of flat sand surfaces

any enduro bike or pajero will be more useful

the car's also filled with luxury tech

there's a reason why rallying cars are extremely bareboned

[onyx rivet]

toys that also pose as investments

[kind osprey]

Cars rare enough to appreciate will do so regardless of whether or not you drive it a few times a year or a few times a week.

People who collect them not to drive them are the losers who don't enjoy their stuff I feel

If you buy a supercar and don't even put like 1000-1500 miles a year on it, why own it

Only excuse is if you have like 30 cars

It could be difficult to drive them all that much

[onyx rivet]

I get that, but not driving significantly reduces the risk of it crashing on a stretch of road to zero as well
They wan their toys to kept in tip-top shape for RM Sotheby's, Bonhams or Barret Jacksons

At the same time they might also like the look of cars just sitting there

Im against that though

[kind osprey]

Tbf I would be afraid to drive a $20,000,000 irreplaceable classic car, I'm not insane. But if I have money like that I could probably close off a local road and hire people to watch the area

Never have another random car near it during the drive

[onyx rivet]

Oh yeah, they could also not know how to/not want to drive it about even within ideal conditions

Because im sure those who do have that much money lying about ccan, but dont

[kind osprey]

Jay leno has a good philosophy on it. If he has a very rare expensive basically irreplaceable vehicle he takes out, he drives it without a destination to be at and rarely parks it

He'll never take his Mclaren f1 to some appointment he is late to etc

[onyx rivet]

I'll have to admit i havnt seen his full collection but from what i've seen they mostly fit that category as expensive irrrepacbles

That also comes to Jay Leno being a good guy and following his own philosophy

Its a shame that many other people with similar sort of garage dont think a similar way

[stoic chasm]

Why can’t I post pics of vids?

[red flame]

need to be level 5

[hybrid charm]

Bugatti Atlantic 2015. Need this car in GTA VI

[fiery talon]

ill get hate by saying this but it looks terrible imo.

[short lion]

i like it

[fiery talon]

yeah everybody thats looking at it in the server rn can only "like it"

[short lion]

okay

i like how they incorporate the design of the old f1

[fiery talon]

as if we can afford one

[short lion]

it's like 5k to rent for a day

[fiery talon]

only 5k.

[short lion]

not an impossible amount for someone who really wants to and has a decent job

[fiery talon]

i personally would not be paying that much to rent a car like this. would spend it on sm else.

i wouldnt have the balls to be driving that here hell no

[kind osprey]

What is 5k a day to rent?

That isn't a real car they aren't going to let strangers rent it for some ridiculous amount unless you are talking about another car

[hybrid charm]

I Forgot to mention it was just à concept lol

[kind osprey]

I know it is

What car is @short lion saying you could rent though I'm confused

[hybrid charm]

I have no idea what is he talking about

[kind osprey]

Same

One: no company would ever let you rent concepts and non production cars just to drive on the street for any amount.
Two: It would be a hell of a lot more than $5000

[fiery talon]

even if they did i could never have the balls to be driving that on the road. fuck no.

5k is wayy too cheap even for rent for a car like that. i guess u needa make more sense next time.

[kind osprey]

I've rented track cars before, I would never rent a luxury car that is so useless

[fiery talon]

same.

id spent the money on something else

tf am i gonna do with a car for 1 day?

[hybrid charm]

I don't hate renting but it's something I found useless cuz if you're a car guy you'll be attached to the car and leaving the key should be heartbreaking

[fiery talon]

its like spending 5k on steak.

[fiery talon]

i could never.

[hybrid charm]

If I really am desperate I would rent only 1 car and only one. A Ferrari 812 Superfast

[kind osprey]

No renting allows you to actually get time in the car without having to commit hundreds of thousands of dollars

It's great but not something you should soend every dime on of course

[fiery talon]

if i have 5k to spend on a car for one day. i guess im rich so id just buy the car

[hybrid charm]

I have a relative who sometimes rent Audi RSs and shit and I'm low-key judging him cuz I find it useless

[fiery talon]

me whos rs5 is in a workshop rn.

[kind osprey]

$5,000 a day would get you a Lamborghini aventador svj, or like a Ferrari f12 tdf

[fiery talon]

f12

[kind osprey]

One of Ferraris best cars

Goes for about $1.2 to $1.8

[fiery talon]

1.2$? i can afford that

[hybrid charm]

How much would be 812? 7k?

[kind osprey]

$5000 a day makes sense for a more than a million dollar car

[kind osprey]

An 812 is half the price of an f12tdf

[fiery talon]

id spend that much on my audi. just me tho

[hybrid charm]

Logic. Then 2-2.5k

[kind osprey]

Probably more

Like 3-4

Some Huracans rent for $1700 a day

It's about location

[hybrid charm]

Okay. I ask but I would never, 3-4k spent for less than 24h of pleasure is crazy

[fiery talon]

frrrrr

[kind osprey]

Say you are making $30 an hour. $3000 would be way too much but to a guy making $750 an hour it's the same as you soending a few hundred bucks on a special tourist attraction

Renting a car as high up as an 812 isn't a normal activity

The security deposit alone is $10,000

[fiery talon]

yep only someone "above average or rich" would do that

[kind osprey]

So you have to have that down plus the days pay

[hybrid charm]

Istg people are legit letting their cars as a security deposit to rentals just for a day in a RS6

[fiery talon]

renting a rs6 for a day is crazy

[kind osprey]

The rs6 is great but I wouldn't rent such a normal car

[fiery talon]

even for a MTM rs6

[kind osprey]

I've done a Huracan, 488 gtb, and a gt3rs

But it wasn't public road renting

[hybrid charm]

Track renting seems less stupid imo

[kind osprey]

I'm probably going to do a gt4rs this time around

[kind osprey]

It's ironically also cheaper lol

Less time but it's more meat

You can push it

[hybrid charm]

And you endanger way less people

[sage roost]

From what I’ve heard it’s LOUD. so prepare yourself

[kind osprey]

If I owned a supercar I wouldn't be driving it with people around me anyways

[sage roost]

Even louder than the 911 GT3s

[hybrid charm]

A Gintani SVJ

[kind osprey]

The gt3 rs has the same engine the sound is beautiful I would be very happy to hear it again

Best 6 cylinder sound on this entire planet

[hybrid charm]

That flat 6 sounds crazy at almost 9k rpms

[kind osprey]

Once you get it to around 9 the car screams

It was mesmerizing

The downshifts are probably my top 5 favorite

You hear everything because it has zero sound deadening

[hybrid charm]

Have you ever heard a 599XX downshifting? Shits almost change you into Beethoven

[sage roost]

My wish is to drive a GT3RS with the MR package when that comes out

992 GT3RS I mean

[kind osprey]

The 599xx evo is actually my objective number 1

Under best downshifts in a car ever

It can't be topped

[hybrid charm]

Mine as well bro. But those cars are all owned

[sage roost]

The DOWNFORCE

[kind osprey]

The new gt3 rs is goofy but the car is like having godmode, you can take tight ass turns going 125

[sage roost]

And yes, there is a sharkfin

[hybrid charm]

Shit is artistic af even with a fat ass wing

[kind osprey]

The fxx and that are two awesome track cars

Fxx is a bit harder to find though

[hybrid charm]

Wdym harder ton find?

[sage roost]

Batman himself

[sage roost]

I think he meant more rare

[hybrid charm]

599XX EVO and FXX both are owned and they can't be rent

[sage roost]

I mean who’s smart enough to make multi million dollar racecars up for rent /s

[kind osprey]

fxx's are a lot more sought after than 599xx and 599xxevos

So finding an opportunity to drive or purchase one is going to be a lot slimmer

[quartz prawn]

real

992s are not my favourite but theyre goated

[onyx rivet]

Yeah, i feel the same
The original Atlantic at least is historic and is a work of art, this version didnt look elegant-i think it looks forced

[heady swift]

why does the rear specifically have the turbofan?

if you're picking, it should be the front

unless the 911 is rear-break dependent???

[hybrid charm]

Like a front engine Chiron kinda. But it does work for me

[heady swift]

speaking of turbofans

https://youtu.be/1smljyoYmb8?feature=shared&t=62

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-xr0V2oYYQ&ab_channel=TNTVideo

[jagged sentinel]

What a wonderful noise that twincharged machine makes

[heady swift]

https://youtu.be/NeRTQJOzwj4?feature=shared&t=30

[heady swift]

very unique

sounds rabid

[hybrid charm]

I'm fine of screaming naturally aspired high revving engines but the 90 GTO's turbo whistles are noice

[jagged sentinel]

Kinda like its engineering philosophy

[hybrid charm]

https://youtu.be/7N7XnXHsljc?si=zf91EEmP6piQyKsK

Peak V12 sound

[heady swift]

the only v8 I want

https://youtu.be/_Rl8NQhtvk8?feature=shared&t=115

[kind osprey]

I saw a Lancia not too long ago it was awesome

[sage roost]

Probably, but surely manthey (who created the aero kit) know more about its function than you and me

[onyx rivet]

i've went to Manthey Racing's website and it claims it improves downforce

ive also read a Speedhunters article and said that with the aero covers, they can reduce the wing angle as well, so less drag with equal/larger amounts of downforce

Carbon aero discs supplement rear downforce and reduce drag for a higher top speed.

(link to claim)
https://www.speedhunters.com/2020/08/more-performance-all-of-the-time-manthey-racings-gt3-rs-mr/#:~:text=fitted to the-,MR,-wheels and they

[sage roost]

plus looks really good imo

[onyx rivet]

im not a huge fan of them to be honest, but i do like their looks sometimes

[night steeple]

which 50s car has the most chrome, most plane designs, tallest fins, most crazy?

[onyx rivet]

Cadillac Eldorado

[old sedge]

Why buy an Alphard if we can buy this?
https://www.carousell.ph/p/mercedes-benz-v220d-long-auto-1249808985/?t-id=-RWyJfZRbL_1699948760699&t-referrer_browse_type=search_results&t-referrer_filter_category=2151&t-referrer_page_type=search&t-referrer_request_id=f7HnhycmvwpHrm1W&t-referrer_search_query_source=direct_search&t-referrer_sort_by=popular&t-tap_index=19

[kind osprey]

These usually suck though

[onyx rivet]

Maybe you want Toyota reliabilty, if that is applicable to the Alphard

[sturdy hemlock]

terrible quality pictures pulled from craigslist

[old sedge]

How about Mercedes reliability?

It is a Mercedes after all

[night steeple]

if ya want mercedes reliability you might wanna go waaaay back when they still had halogen headlights

[hybrid charm]

New Renault Twingo leaked. Need this in GTA Online

[sage roost]

no

[jagged sentinel]

No

[hybrid charm]

Yes

I want to do drive bys in my goddamn Twingo

[steady cove]

No

[steady cove]

24' golf r

First one i ve seen

And this new hyudai (the electric one with gears)

[misty kiln]

Burn all golfs minus mk1s and mk2s

[hybrid charm]

Mk4 r32 rules

[kind osprey]

why tf is this thing $50,000

I need to know

the affordable fun cars are stupidly expensive nowadays

$49,000 for a civic type r

$40,000 for a Corolla gr hatch

like bruh

[hybrid charm]

40k I'd rather get a MK2 Focus RS

50k I can get a nice E92 M3

[loud spade]

I’m just sad they discontinued the scirosso

scieocco

scirocco

[steady cove]

Bcs its a new sports car

I ve never seen a new sports car for a not overly marked up price

Nowadays

[kind osprey]

a golf isn't a sports car

it's a hatchback with a badge and a little more power

$50k is ridiculous

[jagged sentinel]

It's also not worth 50k

[kind osprey]

I'd be hard pressed to find one going for under that after fees and other bs

some of them msrp for $48k

[steady cove]

A normal mk8 golf isnt 50k

Its around 35k

[kind osprey]

That photo isn't a normal golf

[steady cove]

That photo is an golf r

A golf r is better than a golf gti

[kind osprey]

accounting for different times I wonder if these cars were just as expensive as they are now back then

like the Supra wasn't a cheap car when it was new

it was never affordable

or economy

[jagged sentinel]

Started at like 70k+ in today money

[kind osprey]

basically

so adjusting for that I wonder if the older top trim golfs were just as expensive

[steady cove]

Also even the golf r costs 45k not 50k

[kind osprey]

$45k is 50k in the car world unless they are having extreme difficulty selling them

if a sticker says $45k it isn't going out the door under 52k

[steady cove]

I mean they dont markup prices like that here

Idk about there

[kind osprey]

These are typically pre markup

[steady cove]

But here the website prices match with the stand prices mostly

[kind osprey]

with markups the car could be $60k

but that is just robbery

beyond the scope

i'm referring to pre robbery times

[steady cove]

I heard they are marking up the 400z to $140k

Murica

(The cars msrp is $60k)

Murica

[kind osprey]

the 400z nismo going for that much I hope is a myth, nobody is that fucking stupid to purchase one at that price I hopefully assume

like those hellcats going for $300,000 lmao

i'd buy a used Lamborghini

fuck that

[jagged sentinel]

Oh yeah that Demon 170 going for like 380k or whatever

Chrysler needs to do what GM is doing fr

[steady cove]

https://www.thedrive.com/news/2024-nissan-z-nismo-marked-up-to-158495-or-best-offer

[kind osprey]

imagine paying $400,000 for a car that does nothing but straight line. You might as well build a drag car from scratch

[jagged sentinel]

It retails for like 100

[kind osprey]

You could build a drag car that will smoke the 170 for $100,000. With $400,000 you could make something go 300mph in the time is takes to crack a skull

it won't be as reliable

but that markup is a bigger middle finger to me than an engine exploding

[jagged sentinel]

Doesn't come with a warranty either

[kind osprey]

I bet you the 170 doesn't either. The second it goes off of suburban asphalt it expires

[steady cove]

Best europe car for 35k

!!!

[kind osprey]

"you used the drag car to drag race"

[steady cove]

What is it???

[kind osprey]

no warrenty for you

[steady cove]

My mom likes the kia k5 but its not available here

Someone ship us one

She ll pay 35k

[jagged sentinel]

Dodge of all companies are the ones I'd expect to not void the warranty for that but

You're still probably right

So I looked it up, looks like they don't void it he warranty if you drag race it, at least not consistently

Ig they're confident enough that their purpose-built drag car won't shit itself at the drag strip

[kind osprey]

That's good

I guess they take pride in the car as long as it's a demon

[jagged sentinel]

Idk if that treatment is exclusive to the demon(s)

[kind osprey]

I feel like they don't hold the scatpack to the same standard lol

[jagged sentinel]

Yeah

I am curious about their Spicier hellcats like the red-eye and jailbreak tho

[steady cove]

Aliexpress sells more bodykits than most bodykit sellers

Opinions on that?

[jagged sentinel]

Doesn't mean they're all good quality

[hybrid charm]

Most of car owners wants their shit to look fast or cool nut don't want to spend too much. That's why aliexpress sells more

[jagged sentinel]

Sell more or have more available to choose from?

[old sedge]

https://www.msn.com/en-ph/news/other/forgotten-cars-of-the-1990s/ss-AA1jVUlG?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=26fcd3f89c8545d2894d0a6638ecdc3b&ei=8#image=1

[old sedge]

They didn't include the Mitsubishi Pajero.
https://www.msn.com/en-ph/news/other/15-awful-car-names/ss-AA1jJAx4?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=65d7358b93554bc9843a93f54249a9f5&ei=31

[misty kiln]

Which top gear episode is the best?

[night steeple]

that is a hard one to decide
africa special probably

[misty kiln]

Yeah thats what i was leaning to, the special eps tend to be pretty good

[sturdy hemlock]

[short lion]

solid weld

[misty kiln]

My exhaust mounting better

[dry sage]

Guess the car.

[uncut saddle]

Dear god please don't tell me that's a Supra

[steady cove]

☠️

[uncut saddle]

Christ

Honestly they did a good job with the front bumper

Shame you can't hide the window frames and doors of the supra

Kinda recognizable

And I'm going to assume the hood just isn't closed properly rn?????

[dry sage]

[vestal garnet]

[heady swift]

https://youtu.be/qua-Xl4P3nI?feature=shared&t=207

[kind osprey]

Ooo

[hybrid charm]

The new Saleen 302 White Label

[jagged sentinel]

I'm not a huge fan of it right this second but it'll probably grow on me

Though fir right now I like the look of the RTR front end the most

[hybrid charm]

I think Saleen just made it look better on top of putting 510hp from the 5.0

[dry sage]

God, I wish we got a successor to the S7.

[hybrid charm]

I don't think they got the money or if they even want to do this

[dry sage]

Tell them that if they can build a car that can outpace the Garage 56 Camaro, they should build it.

Bigger engine, similar shape to the S7.

Outruns LMH.

[kind osprey]

I mean at least we got Hennessey

[jagged sentinel]

Excluding the S7 LM, I presume?

[dry sage]

Yes.

Since that's like the M3 Evo II. It's still an E30 - only retouched.

[jagged sentinel]

You're totally right there

[heady swift]

GTE

hyperclass are completely different class

it finished 39nth overall

which is still a feat for a stock car

[hybrid charm]

Guess the car

[dry sage]

I can't tell if I'm hearing a raspy V6 or an extra raspy V12.

Certainly sounds British though.

[hybrid charm]

Raspy V12 and bri'ish indeed

[kind osprey]

Is just the car British, or the car and the engine

[hybrid charm]

Both

Full british

[kind osprey]

I'm probably really off but I'll guess a TVR

[hybrid charm]

Yeah you're off

[kind osprey]

Idk what else is a British sourced v12 other than I guess Jaguar and Aston

[hybrid charm]

It's Aston

[kind osprey]

Most British cars use other countries powertrains

[hybrid charm]

Well now Aston use AMG V8s now sadly

[kind osprey]

Are their v12's amg as well? or do they still make those from scratch

I don't really look into modern aston much

I would like a 2013 vantage s I like that gen

[hybrid charm]

Nah I think their V12s are still theirs but only the DBS is using it, even DB12 is only available with a V8

[hybrid charm]

Amazing car, my favorite Vantage variant is the 2018 V600

[kind osprey]

How is the db12 not a v12, emissions really need to screw off for soke manufacturers

Like if a manufacturer makes 10,000,000 cars like Toyota emissions compliance to the highest standards makes sense.

But aston makes like what my guess is not even 10,000 a year

[hybrid charm]

Sounds stupid right? I was blown as well once I heard this

Idk why Ferrari keeps their NA V12 but Aston doesn't, and it's not like hybridization is not a thing

Lambo uses hybridization

[hybrid charm]

Do you want me to unveil the car?

[kind osprey]

Sure

I was in a tunnel with no signal lol

[hybrid charm]

https://youtu.be/wSTQqxlq_J8?si=g7NCiZcbzojVbVNv

Probably my top 1 Aston Martin of all time

[hybrid charm]

Wanted to post model car photography I've done but don't have media perms

Sad

[steady cove]

Yeah you need atleast level 5, but if u want u can dm them to me and i ll send them here with your credit

[dry sage]

How we feeling today?

[kind osprey]

All of the above

[steady cove]

Idk im feeling pretty ok

[hybrid charm]

NSX-R prototype time attack

And S2K prototype

I need to salvage more VHS tapes, wish it wasn't so costly to convert them to USB

[hybrid charm]

Okay, they are watermarked regardless lol

[hybrid charm]

There's a 1991 Yata abandoned in my neighbors garage, himbs is sad and that makes me sad

What

[rustic peak]

Second one looks like it's waiting for a train to hit it.

[neat osprey]

Hie 👋

[hybrid charm]

Beautiful F430 Scud 16m

[quasi harness]

"Whats wrong with her now?"

[kind osprey]

$400

[odd hazel]

Nah man more like 40$ that’s some bs benny’s custom prices

[kind osprey]

"You have 3 minutes and 26 seconds to live"
Me:

https://youtu.be/rb03dK0nBf0?si=tuasD9zbeX7U9tCk

[sage roost]

“You have 5 minutes and 19.54 seconds to live”
Me: https://youtu.be/PQmSUHhP3ug?si=haYz3Eto0zpQhGx4

[jagged sentinel]

This could do the ring in 9 minutes and I still wouldn't care
https://youtu.be/llG8k6q947A?si=oBWS5s9MUtyjoZO_

Only because the sound is so out of this world

Easily one of the best sounding American cars ever

[sage roost]

7:27 BTG is impressive ngl

for an American muscle car

[jagged sentinel]

A chassis actually built for IRS on top of being tuned for the track makes for a good combo

Mustangs did get IRS before the S550 but there was hella wheel hop because the chassis wasn't designed with it in mind

It could actually put all its power to the ground this time

[old sedge]

I'm thinking, if there's a self-aware, AI driven car with no manual driving option like no steering wheel, no pedals, etc, would anyone ride as passenger?

[jagged sentinel]

I wouldn't

At least not without a lot of reassurance that it works and it won't get me killed

[fiery talon]

@karmic jay cars u said?

hmm cars.

[fiery talon]

seems abt right

FH5 online lobbies in 1 pic even tho its not FH5

[karmic jay]

GRID Legends 💪

Why the hell racing cars be having such good ass graphics than COD Games

[fiery talon]

its that majestic quality

that sauce

[dim mango]

😍

[dim mango]

because they tirn them into light sports cars and they're greedy fucks

older trim golfs weren't built to be sporty, at least not like the r

[dim mango]

mk4 r32?
mk5 gti?
mk7 r?
golfs are great and fun, just the last few years they've been costly

[misty kiln]

Theyre no exceptions, r32 not bad but still burn it

[heady swift]

try a bit less saturation and more warmth

other than that absolutely amazing evo's

[misty kiln]

No colour editing

[sonic solar]

yummy

[dim mango]

i take it you hate modern european cars?

*designs

[misty kiln]

Nope

Love the new bimmers, some of the mercs and a couple audis

[dim mango]

their i7s have a lot of design elements similar to the mk7r

and later r's

[misty kiln]

I7 is horrendous

[dim mango]

hahaha true

[misty kiln]

When i say new bimmers i meant the M variants, the real drivers cars

[onyx rivet]

they do?

god the current 7 Series is ugly

its too bad their interiors are amazing

[onyx rivet]

i dunno how you can defend the current M cars on looks

[misty kiln]

G80/g82 just work

The grille is odd but idfk the rest of the car looks amazing

[onyx rivet]

yeah i do like the Genesis G80 myself, i cannot lie

🙃 🙃

[misty kiln]

Thats horrenfous

[onyx rivet]

how are you gonna like big sniffa pig bmw ///M💪 car but not like elegance and class

this one also got a big grille

[kind osprey]

The genesis suv's are pretty cool

[onyx rivet]

two different types of cars i suppose, the Genesis G80 with the BMW G80

[kind osprey]

g80 is a model name, g80 for bmw is a generation tag

only one is called a g80

This thing is fricken huge

[misty kiln]

Bentley knockoff

[kind osprey]

the genesis looks nothing like a Bentley ngl

[onyx rivet]

tbf, i think that is more or less what they are going for

not on looks

[misty kiln]

You got eye problems then💀

[onyx rivet]

no im wrong, Genesis does not compete with Bentley

[misty kiln]

Also similar styling to the shitty luxury mercs everyones got now

[kind osprey]

The g80 and g90 aren't ever going to target people buying Bentley's and RR's it is more for people buying Lexus's S class's and Audi a8's

[onyx rivet]

the Mercs are copying the Koreans on styling, im telling you

[kind osprey]

do all cars look the same to you or something?

In what world does this look similar to a Genesis

[misty kiln]

If ya opened yr eyes you might see similarities

Cabin

Grille/lower grille layout

[kind osprey]

look nothing alike

the interior may but i haven't seen the Genesis interior

so i'll look at it now

[onyx rivet]

i can understand that?
but yeah, not really
its unique enough from each other
and some parts like the greenhouse/cabin are going to look quite similar

[misty kiln]

Lower grille flared at the edges, skinny in centre

[kind osprey]

This is like saying a c8 corvette looks like a ferrari

[onyx rivet]

which it kinda does

[misty kiln]

Be closer to a lamborghini

[onyx rivet]

does it not

[kind osprey]

no

[onyx rivet]

what i dont get was people comparing the Z4 with the A90 Supra on looks

[kind osprey]

corvette design language is pretty prominent on the c8, people only think it looks like a Ferrari because mid engine corvettes seem new to them

[misty kiln]

Fr

[kind osprey]

because they are the same dimensions

they may not look the same

[misty kiln]

Its just wrong for a corvette

[kind osprey]

but they are the same exact size

[misty kiln]

Mid engine no

[kind osprey]

how? They always wanted the car to be mid engine

it was their goal for a while now

[misty kiln]

Doesnt matter

They havent been til now therefor its wrong

[kind osprey]

There have been many concepts, prototypes, and even full running models for homologation purposes

mid engine corvettes have existed, they have just never been publicly sold

it was either too expensive or just not the right time

they finally decided to do it after 50 years of putting it as an idea

[misty kiln]

Designers can do anything with concepts, its the production car that matters

And if theyve used the same formula for several generations why switch up

[sonic solar]

vroom vroom

[kind osprey]

https://youtu.be/y99cTwG3ekU?si=2Y2UGLsxd0AtwsG0
This guy explains it a lot better than I would currently

[sonic solar]

car are funny to steal

[kind osprey]

but this is a good explanation of GM design theory on the c8

[onyx rivet]

whatever is objectively good for the corvette is good enough of a reason to me
the transistion between the C7 and C8 was 10x less drastic compared to the BMW M4's F82 to G82 to me

[misty kiln]

I am not that invested to watch a video on the matter💀

[kind osprey]

Learning can be fun

[sonic solar]

what would happen if you put a rocket engine on a commercial airplane, and replaced the airplanes wheels with those from a john deer tractor

so it could probably not get off the ground

and

kill everyone in a large radius

[kind osprey]

the first part of that sentence exists I think

minus the John deere

[onyx rivet]

people thought they were Camaro lights?

[sonic solar]

i think the falcon heavy rocket ship looks cool

[sonic solar]

they look like the red lights on the back of cars

[misty kiln]

💀

[kind osprey]

Carbon-Carbon brakes do be not heating up to optimal temperatures when i need them to

[sonic solar]

i can identify any car

send me a picture and i while identify it

please accept my challenge

there is not a single car i can not identify

[sonic solar]

yep

that looks like...

a car

[sonic solar]

theres your profeisnall analysis

[kind osprey]

That is a super easy one

[sonic solar]

THAT

is also

a car

[misty kiln]

Nuh

[onyx rivet]

dayum theyre good

[sonic solar]

thank u

i can also identify any plane, bird, or fish

[kind osprey]

@misty kiln what do you think of the fast back lookin type 3's?

[sonic solar]

i think they look like cars

[kind osprey]

the sedan looks better like most things

[sonic solar]

the sundan is very ugly

[kind osprey]

the only wagons I like at like four door german ones

[sonic solar]

wagon?

with doors?

[kind osprey]

rs2, bmw 3 series

[misty kiln]

Rs6>

[kind osprey]

i would have this over an x5 any day of the week

wagons are sick

[misty kiln]

Mine

[kind osprey]

alfer romtheyo

my favorite fiat

[misty kiln]

Jtdm

[onyx rivet]

wagons are undeniably cool

[kind osprey]

these don't exist where I live

what a shame

[misty kiln]

Unlucky, amazing cars

[night steeple]

there is MAN trucks but no WOMAN trucks
gets triggered

[steady cove]

Im pretty sure trucks are unisex

[dim mango]

-4 wheels
-windscreen

[dim mango]

a6 avant?

[kind osprey]

the rs6 is nice as well

I'd probably choose one over an Urus tbh

[onyx rivet]

i would choose a shit tonne amount of cars over a Urus too

[kind osprey]

The urus has the same powertrain as the similar Audi's like the rs6 and Q8rs

making them pretty comparable

especially if you take an rs6 and tune it to the same power as a Urus

[onyx rivet]

i know that the Q8RS has the same powertrain/platform but i did not know that the RS6 shares the same powertrain with the Urus

makes sense actually, just never decided to look into it

[kind osprey]

I know the rs6 has the same v8 as those other two, idk about any other internals

but I know you can easily tune an rs6 to have as much if not more power than an Urus

reliably

i'd rather have an rs6 with the same power output as an Urus than an Urus

The Urus is like $100,000 more and it too flashy and high off the ground

[onyx rivet]

i'd rather have an rs6 with the same power output as an Urus than an Urus
The Urus is like $100,000 more and it too flashy and high off the ground
yeah im of a similar opinion

plus wagons are just cooler

[sage roost]

Id pick the RS6 over a urus or RSQ8 in a heartbeat

wagons are simply better

[dim mango]

easily means what, specifically?

what kina tuning,

[kind osprey]

A place who can get into the ecu, 5 minutes with a laptop, and a usb stick

The engine is detuned from factory

So you are just un doing it

[sage roost]

Hmm there’s the RS6 performance

but that just has bigger turbos

[loud spade]

Bigger turbo = more stutututu =YES

[heady swift]

brera?

always loved it

but I often hear that its reliability is egh though

[dim mango]

oh shit nice

[sage roost]

Typical Alfa Romeo

[misty kiln]

This ones a 159

Jtdm

[misty kiln]

Honestly its getting older now, ive had a couple issues but its pretty damn strong

[misty kiln]

@thin pecan

[thin pecan]

HOLY SHITTT. Thats nice bro

[misty kiln]

Thanks🫡

[thin pecan]

I love your cars

[dim mango]

which year?

the brera/159 is a dream car to me

[misty kiln]

2008

[misty kiln]

Theyre amazing cars, mine makes big power but the driving feel in general is just

[hybrid charm]

I'm still in love with this RS6 sedan, Audi should kept producing a sedan version of the RS6 fr

[steady cove]

Rs6s are a bad car overall

The maintenance costs are high, the car itself is expensive, and it lacks the power that other cars in its price range typically offer.

For the price of an rs6 you could buy a redeye with like 800hp

Almost double

Double it and give it to the nest person

You could nearly purchase two Giulia Quadrifoglio models for the cost of a single RS6, despite both offering similar power.

[spare tulip]

or 4 kia stinger GTs

[steady cove]

Im so sad kia stopped making the stingers

[sage roost]

Power is the only thing the redeye has over the RS6

and they’re not comparable tbh

[hybrid charm]

I don't even think a Redeye has anything else to offer other than 800hp (only on special occasions btw)

[sage roost]

it’s like saying why buy a Porsche GT3 when you can buy a GT500 or something

For less than half the price

[hybrid charm]

A truly bad car according to its price could be any 90s GT-Rs or Supras

[dim mango]

horrendous take 😍

[steady cove]

never said that

i just said that it had a horrible price lmfao

which is true

and other cars around that same price have something going for the other than beeing an audi and having a better engine compared to the inferior models

[hybrid charm]

How much is an RS6? Around 150k?

[steady cove]

120k to 160k

depends

[hybrid charm]

Lemme check rq

[steady cove]

i think the avant model is like 150k

or 160

im talking about the new models not the old ones

bcs the old ones are probably cheaper if bought 2nd hand

[hybrid charm]

Yeah in my country they are sold new for around 150k

For 150k I'd rather have this but it's only about taste

[steady cove]

the thing is that its not only audi that does this

other german (mainly) brands do this aswell

thats also why these cars are rarely seen

[misty kiln]

In what world is anyone taking a stinger over an rs

[spare tulip]

a world where someone prolly can’t afford an rs

[dim mango]

"Rs6s are a bad car overall" ?

[kind osprey]

Your argument fell completely apart at this sentence

Hellcat redeyes are not half the price, and they can't be compared to an rs6 avant from most standpoints they are cars with two completely different purposes

Horsepower is absolutely not everything

That's the most obvious point here

[kind osprey]

Rs7

That's also a good one

A lot goes into a price of a car

Dodges are cheap because they are $30,000 cars with a big engine

[sage roost]

That’s like

Why buy an M3 CS

when you can buy a charger hellcat

[hybrid charm]

Nah RS7 ain't enough. I want RS6 sedan

[steady cove]

for the price? yeah

[steady cove]

all cars have the same purpose, and they are both the same price

[steady cove]

to a certain point, yeah. but not when the difference is almost double the hp...

also the redeye is cheaper by like 15k

[sage roost]

but the overall quality is much cheaper

only thing the redeye has going for it is the engine

[steady cove]

thats just american cars in general

[sage roost]

…which is why I’d pick the RS6 instead

[kind osprey]

No they absolutely do not

That is like saying every tool in your toolkit does the same thing because they are all made out of metal..

A Jeep wrangler has a very different purpose than a Lotus Elise

[kind osprey]

A stock Porsche gt3 rs or a Mclaren 675lt could smoke any stock hellcat

The basic rule of car enthusiasts

Less weight >>> more power

If you don't focus on the important things first, you'll just have a piece of shit with 1000hp that can't move right

[steady cove]

not at all

every car has a purpose of going from a to b

wrenches cant do that

[steady cove]

Meh depends

Those cars are also like way more expensive that any hellcat

So its given they are faster

Ur comparing having a car thats 2x the price of another and it beeing faster with two cars of the same price

Which imo doesnt make much sense

Also if you want to compare it to something different like an alfa quadrifoglio, the difference gets even bigger

With it having 70hp less and a faster time on the nurburgring

And the interior is nice aswell 😏

AND IT COSTS ALMOST HALF THE PRICE

[dim mango]

buddy, if you're buying a car with the goal of "get from point a to b" then neither an rs6, not a hellcat, nor anything else with a price tag even in that vicinity would be your concern

[steady cove]

Well for that price range the rs6 is really only a good "get from a to b" car, not anything else

[dim mango]

really?

[steady cove]

I mean we got cheaper cars that are better than it in every aspect

Please read what i wrote

Damn ur so wrong

He said gt3 rs not gt4

Also im talking about the alfa romeo quadrifoglio not the gt3rs

[dim mango]

yeah mb

[kind osprey]

That is way too broad of a statement. A supercar gonna rock crawl in a jungle, and an 18 wheeler can't do a sub 7 minute around the ring

Cars can have very different purposes

[steady cove]

Yeah but the rs6 doesnt excel in any of them to the point where its justified its price point

Thats what i mean

[kind osprey]

I couldn't care less about price, I'm talking about the time cemented fact that less weight and rigidity is better than more power in almost every scenario

Cars are priced the way they are for a reason

[steady cove]

You dont care about price when comparing cars? Seems flawed.

[kind osprey]

An rs6 avant handles a lot better than any dodge other than a viper

[steady cove]

Yeah but the rs6 avant costs way more than those aswell

You can buy a dodge acr for less than an avant and it will be faster around a track

[kind osprey]

You were saying in the beginning why get an rs6 if you could just get a hellcat. When in reality they are two very different cars that serve two completely different functionalities

They really have no matter comparisons

[steady cove]

Well i just gave the hellcat as an example

Not that it had to be that car

I just said that there are wayyyy better cars for the money

[kind osprey]

Newer vipers are a fortune unfortunately

Old ones sure, but old ones aren't as fast or well averse for handling

[steady cove]

Well

The old acrs hold records

[kind osprey]

Direct competition to the rs6 sedan and wagon are around the same price. Bmw m5cs, Mercedes gt four door

These are all $140,000 cars

[steady cove]

And im willing to bet that any acr does a better time on the nurb compared to the most recent rs6 avant even

[kind osprey]

New ones do

[steady cove]

Old ones probably do too

How much doesnt the rs6 avant do

[kind osprey]

The comparable competition to the rs6/rs7 cost the same amount if not more

Audi is the cheaper of the three most of the time

[sage roost]

You’re still comparing a pretty much street legal track car to a wagon

just not fair

compare it to the cars similar in its class

like what epik mentioned

[kind osprey]

I mentioned the viper because it is the only dodge that handles better than an rs6

It was a tangent

[steady cove]

The oldest acr from 1999 does 8 minutes and 10 seconds the rs6 avant does 8 minutes and 9 seconds

Wild

Slow ahh car

[kind osprey]

They are both slow

[steady cove]

Yeah

[kind osprey]

But one is a purpose built track car

[steady cove]

But one is from 2024 and the other is from 1999

[kind osprey]

The other is a new wagon

[steady cove]

Well

[sage roost]

Fine

[steady cove]

Whats the rs6s purpose then

[kind osprey]

Wagons aren't held to track car and supercar standards

[sage roost]

how about we compare the Ferrari F50

[kind osprey]

To be a very fast wagon

[sage roost]

to a bmw XM

[kind osprey]

It is extremely fast, for a wagon

[steady cove]

Theres faster wagons

[kind osprey]

It won't beat a Huracan

But it'll beat any other wagon stock

[kind osprey]

They will be more expensive

But few can exist

[steady cove]

Than 150k?

Lmfao

[kind osprey]

You want more than 640hp inside german luxury quality and expect a reasonable price?

[steady cove]

Isnt that what you look for when buying a car

Like if its more expensive than average atleast be better

[kind osprey]

Because it is better

[steady cove]

Its not tho?

[sage roost]

Such as?

[steady cove]

No idea

[sage roost]

there you go

[kind osprey]

What is a better station wagon than an rs6 avant. Lamborghini Urus doesn't count

[steady cove]

Im p sure there are tho

[kind osprey]

Where

[sage roost]

you answered yourself tbh

[steady cove]

A urus isnt even a wagon

Its a whole suv

Silly

[sage roost]

there isn’t a better wagon than an RS6

just saying

[kind osprey]

If they were better they would be very, very expensive. The only thing better than German engineering and interior quality is when you mix it with bespoke stuff like Zagato

Zagatos wagon shooting brake is $899,000

But it indeed is faster

Lol

[kind osprey]

The urus is faster than the rs6 but it uses the same engine

The rs6 is de tuned

You could make the rs6 avant have equivalent power to the urus in about 10 minutes

Maybe less

It voids the warranty but it will be fast as fuck

[steady cove]

A quick search told me that the Porsche Panamera Turbo S Sport Turismo is faster and better and cheaper

[sage roost]

you can make it have equal power with a usb stick

[steady cove]

And its a porsche wooo

[kind osprey]

A porsche panamera turbo specced out doesn't leave the showroom for under $160,000

[steady cove]

Yeah it doesnt

It starts at 146k tho

[kind osprey]

So it starts more than an rs6 avant maxxed out in options

[steady cove]

Just like the audi rs6 avant starts at 150k it also doesnt leave a stand at less than 160k

[steady cove]

[kind osprey]

Rs6 avants are hard to get to $150k msrp

Porsche on the other hand

They can have $60,000 in options alone

And these two cars probably have the same engine

Given the fact that Porsche and Audi are closer than siblings

[sage roost]

There’s also the performance version of the RS6/7

[steady cove]

750hp ☠️

Wild

Porsche wilding these days

[sage roost]

With like 630 horsepower

[kind osprey]

Rs6/Urus/q8rs v8 can easily get 750

I wouldn't do that though

I think 640 is good for that engine

More and issues erupt

[steady cove]

Theres also the taycan

[kind osprey]

It's an ev

[steady cove]

Tho its more expensive

Why are taycans so expensive

[kind osprey]

Ev's don't do speed they go nyoom in little skips

[kind osprey]

Because they are awesome

[steady cove]

Nyommm

[kind osprey]

And very well built

[steady cove]

200k for an electric vehicle

[kind osprey]

What taycan is 200k?

[steady cove]

[kind osprey]

They don't go over $170

[steady cove]

The topest one

[kind osprey]

For a maxxed out turbo wagon the taycan can't be 200k

Unless they raised it this year

For 2024

Which would be a $35000 jump

Sounds unlikely

[steady cove]

Im talking

About price on my country not the us

[kind osprey]

Ah

[steady cove]

Inflation

[steady cove]

You could say taycan't

[kind osprey]

Taycan't panel gaps, but Tesla can!

That would be classic Porsche marketing at its finest.

They used to roast the shit out of companies back then

[steady cove]

I asked on reddit what was the best car to buy for ~35k € i got like 5 people tell me to get the tesla m3

Didnt know bmw made teslas now

[kind osprey]

Lol what fr

[steady cove]

No they mean model 3

[kind osprey]

Ohh I'm dumb

[steady cove]

People are weird AHUH IM BLIND

[kind osprey]

Yess

These are funny

[steady cove]

The new

[sage roost]

Weird way to spell Hyundai Elantra N

[steady cove]

Model 3 from tesla doesnt look to bad tho

[sage roost]

Hyundai genuinely makes cool cars now

[kind osprey]

The new one is just a headlight change it seems

[steady cove]

My mom will never get an ev tho

[steady cove]

Theres also some interior changes

[kind osprey]

I wish they were reliable by any metrics, they would be killers

[steady cove]

Like theres a screen for the back seats now too

By default

[kind osprey]

The i30n is really cool

[sage roost]

Well for one it’s not a Kia soul

[steady cove]

My parents have hyundai trauma

[kind osprey]

Tesla is a mixed bag, being such a new company

[steady cove]

We once went to lisbon on my stepdads hyundai and it was horrid

[sage roost]

My mom has a 2015 Kia suv

Sorento I think

And it literally had 0 engine issues

[kind osprey]

I think the 2011-2016 Sorento range is fairly reliable

[steady cove]

The car broke down midway we had to walk up a street for like 3kms by foot and the next day my mom woke up with kidney stones

[kind osprey]

It's a unicorn

[steady cove]

Im not even joking

[kind osprey]

Damn

[sage roost]

there has been an instance where the door lock got jammed

So the door couldn’t close

[steady cove]

Whole trauma

[sage roost]

Which seems to be a theme with our cars

[steady cove]

My stepdad sold the car the next day and bought a a3 with a 1.9 diesel

[sage roost]

Not the first time it happened

[steady cove]

Classic

And its a 4 door

How rare!

My mom also wanted to buy a new a3 but after reading the reliability brand graphs its not happening

[misty kiln]

Entirely valid point

But still several cars i could name over a kia stinger in that price range

[dull folio]

so based, what gen?

[steady cove]

2002

Looks like this but grey

[dull folio]

So earliest 8P car?

[steady cove]

And its not an sline

Its a normal a

[dull folio]

oh, 8L

I currently have the later gen with the 2.0 TDI

[steady cove]

This one isnt really a 2.0

Its a 1.9

Basically the same

Not this one

Our one

[dull folio]

Yeah, the 1st gen didn't even have 2.0 TDI engine, only the classic 1.9

Those are the most reliable of the bunch

[hybrid charm]

Lc500 or M8 comp

Used M8 and new LC prices here are basically the same

[onyx rivet]

i would buy the LC500 out of the two

[misty kiln]

M8 comp fs

Smth bout em is just

[hybrid charm]

LC500 if you want to stand out even tho the interior is definitely outdated

M8 otherwise

[sage roost]

Unfortunately the Japanese are behind everyone else when it comes to interiors and the tech

[dull folio]

LC500 for the looks, there's nothing like it on the market rn

[dim mango]

name em, i wanna know

[dim mango]

lc500 absolutely 😍

[fallow orchid]

Why can’t I send pics

[old sedge]

I'm still surprised that no everyday car has the Airbus style sidestick or the F-18 style center stick. 🤔

[steady cove]

You gotta have lvl 5, if you want tho u can send them to me and i ll send them here with your @

[hybrid charm]

@hybrid charm I prefer the lc500 interior tbh looks more comfortable to be inside, M8 is pretty basic imo

Basically
lc500: better exterior + interior + special
M8: faster + most likely handles and drives better

If the lc was faster I'd pick it in a heartbeat

But the M8 is supercar fast

[steady cove]

It has to do with owner preferences

If you want a slightly more reliable and unique car pick the lc, if you want a better performer get the m8

[hybrid charm]

Yea is a hard choice lol

I want both

[steady cove]

I would pick the lc

Just bcs i like its uniqueness and its rare to see any lexus here in europe, much less an lc500

Anyways

Anyone got an old series 1

Aliexpress wildin these days

[kind osprey]

The lc500 also sounds better

but it has a old people driving to the golf course vibe to it

sort of like the Mercedes Sl

[old sedge]

I would prefer M8 because I'm not really fond of huge SUV.

But if I would buy an SUV, I would pick Ford Explorer.

[kind osprey]

wrong model

the m8 is this

brand new I think the m8 is in a different league than the lc500, so you can use the m8 depreciating like crazy to your advantage when they become like $60,000-$70,000

[kind osprey]

lc500

[old sedge]

Oh 🤣

But for me, I still choose M8 for performance

[kind osprey]

Yea at the end of the day the cars aren't really very comparable

the m8 is double the price new and faster

[old sedge]

What is the right knob for in this Expedition?

The left is for AC fan speed and on/off, center is for thermostat, but what is the right?

[steady cove]

improve the quality and it ll tell you

[old sedge]

Quality?

[steady cove]

yeah?

mybad am i supposed to read this?

looks like it says "PLUHH"

[old sedge]

Oh

I couldn't find a better quality

I thought you said that the right knob improves the quality lol

[onyx rivet]

It says 'Panel' on the left, and 'Floor' to the right

I assume its control to direct the air flow?

[old sedge]

Oooh

I guess dual-zone climate control is already an old tech

While the common dual-zone is a separate thermostat for driver and front passenger, some are for front row and mid row separately.

[hybrid charm]

Lol should buy both

RHD lc500 and lhd m8

[kind osprey]

Why the specific steering wheel position

[hybrid charm]

Cause I will be splitting my time between Europe and Australia from next year

And they are unfortunately different drives so I can't use the same car in both places

[steady cove]

Bro 😭😭😭

Thats so silly

[sullen mountain]

Blud ford escape platinum hybrid 2023 best

[green grove]

Nah I j hate red lights

Surprisingly never been pulled ov for how I drive

[floral plinth]

If you keep at it it won’t be long til you do😭

[green grove]

Anything legal if cops aren’t there🤷‍♂️

[floral plinth]

Tru

[green grove]

This was in clifton I think

Idr sumwhere in delco

Either darby or clifton

Ion drive wreckless in Philly

Cops be de

N everywhere

N my car was no way capable of out running a cop

Yea if it’s clocked in at 110+

What car u drive

Damn u dk the car u got😭

I had a 2010 Toyota Yaris but I sold it

My next car finna be like a early 2000s civic

Can get one modded for like 2k on marketplace

[misty kiln]

💀

[steady cove]

Will blow up as soon as you go past 3k rpms

🤑

[dull folio]

Hope you're a good welder

[misty kiln]

Why you gotta be a good welder to own a 2000s civic

[dull folio]

because there's like a 98% chance it's going to be rusty as fuck

[dim mango]

pluh‼️🗣

[green grove]

im gunna go in to school to be a mechanic within the next few years hopefully

[green grove]

n ima choose which one ima get carefully and look at every angle and detail of the car

[dull folio]

What gen do you want? I highly doubt you can find a clean one for 2k

[green grove]

in philly its p easy

theres like hundreds of them

[dull folio]

But what gen

[green grove]

idk that much ab cars honestly im just starting to get into them

i have friends who are rlly into car so id have to ask them

[dull folio]

pic for reference?

[green grove]

id have to look for one

im unemployed rn so im not rlly looking until i get a job, ive looked in the past tho and seen some that look pretty good for like 2-3k

[hybrid charm]

Ek hatch

Is the one you want

[hybrid charm]

Lmao this is the reason I wanna visit America
Go to LA and play gta irl

From the videos I've seen it's literally an irl GTA lobby filled with NPCs

[green grove]

this is in delaware county in pa

right outside philly

n u gotta know what to do

how to do it

n when to do it

[hybrid charm]

Yeah or just be a foreigner and buy a car with scrubbed vin and fake plates

[green grove]

i personally hate red lights, so ive come up with my own way to avoid any red light ever

[green grove]

gotta be able to get away

[hybrid charm]

Nah just dump the car and leg it

Worst case

[green grove]

have fun running from a car on foot

[hybrid charm]

And then buy another shitbox and do it again

No

Like dump it off the road somewhere or an alley and run

Or into a bush when you're ahead

[green grove]

ud have to get ahead

[hybrid charm]

Done it on dirt bikes lol

Yeah ofc

But you can evade cops for a short while easily
It's only a problem if they call it in