transportation

[shadow valve]

Theres absolutely nothing american about the ford focus even if they were actually made here lol

Also you drive a transit?

Which

[steel kindle]

3.5 eco RWD

[steel kindle]

They're British, it was brought to the U.S

[shadow valve]

That’s not descriptive enough lol

I’m guessing its one of the larger transits?

Not the smaller ones

[steel kindle]

Yeah

The 3.5 RWD package is only for the larger ones

The smaller ones are all FWD

I know it's a 350 but I think it's 2017, it's a work truck

[old sedge]

https://driving.ca/auto-news/news/ford-patents-system-vehicles-to-repossess-themselves-autonomous

Things will be easier if car owners either just pay for their car loans until they finish it or just return the cars they loaned to the bank or shop where they bought the car instead of evading repossession without paying for the car.

Idk why some car owners make things more difficult than they need to be. However, I understand the exceptions such as sudden loss of job of car owners who have no intention of evading repossession and payment and emergency drive to the hospital which Ford noted

Imagine if the car spams the Airbus "ret--d" GPWS callout to car owners who evade loan payment and repossession.

[night steeple]

welp, had my first motorcycle ride in the rain
wasnt that bad though my rain coat didnt protect my shoes from flooding

need to buy one of those shoe rain coats lol

[mint plank]

Yes, wear calf high motorcycle boots next time

[jagged sentinel]

Dodge should consider that

[old sedge]

Toyota, Mitsubishi, Nissan, Subaru and Honda should consider this too.

At least here in Ph

[jagged sentinel]

https://youtube.com/shorts/RluKM2qpP6w?feature=share
478 ci V6💀

[steel kindle]

Oh God those things were amazing

[mint plank]

https://www.ddinstagram.com/reel/CnHy-nRjSJi/?igshid=NDk5N2NlZjQ=

@kind osprey

[night steeple]

bike
so far so good, apart from its bad idle while cold

[kind osprey]

Ain't no way 💀

[mint plank]

yes way

[kind osprey]

Mans is driving the doohickie

[noble grove]

Just wondering, is there something wrong I did, or is the guy at the end a complete asshole?

I don't believe I did anything wrong. I had the right of way and needed to brake to avoid wrecking into both of them.

[shadow valve]

He was just an asshole

Technically that truck was supposed to yield to you

Americans can’t understand the concept of round a-bouts

[noble grove]

Oh, I know about the truck. I was talking about the sedan immediately afterwards. The one where the guy flipped me off.

[shadow valve]

I know

Honda civic drivers be honda civic drivers

I bet they had a monster or something like that in their cupholder

[hybrid charm]

You haven't seen greek drivers

[shadow valve]

Like they even got those ugly vortex generators

Definitely a douchebag

[noble grove]

Maybe. He seemed really pissed because then he pulled over to let me pass, started revving toward my butt and pushing off a ton, and followed me to my workplace.

He didn't follow me in because the lot is gated.

[shadow valve]

I would’ve called the police at that point

[noble grove]

I was gonna call, but then he drove off and I figured it was over.

I didn't think he would wait 5 hours for me to finish my shift and start shit.

[hybrid charm]

I was about to say you should have stopped and beat his ass up but I remembered you in America

Pew pew

We do that here

Also if you have a new car and pass a stop sign we ain't braking

[noble grove]

Let's just say I'd rather back down than deal with the fallout from that, even if it's justified.

[hybrid charm]

That's how you get a new car here

[shadow valve]

Interesting

[hybrid charm]

Very

[noble grove]

I'd rather not have medical bills and no transportation.

[hybrid charm]

Well not going fast

That's idiotic

[noble grove]

I guess. Still though, I like my beater car. Bought it 8 years ago with cash, have maintained it since then, and I don't want to part with it.

[hybrid charm]

Well

If that car has a expensive problem or problems

You gotta t bone a rich guy

[noble grove]

Chassis is still good. Engine and transmission are in fantastic condition, and I'm looking at a routine break pad and tire change in the next couple months.

The clear-coat is peeling off though, but that's not a significant issue.

[hybrid charm]

Our nissan is good too kinda

There is a dent on the passenger door from the old owner

[noble grove]

From someone hitting their door on it?

I have a few door dings myself.

[hybrid charm]

It looks like someone kicked it in the middle

[noble grove]

My vehicle is 20 years old now, it's bound to have received some hits.

oh

[hybrid charm]

Our car is 27

[noble grove]

What's the fuel economy on it?

[hybrid charm]

9.2 l/100 km in town so 25.57 US mpg

5.8 l/100 km out of town so 40.55 US mpg

[noble grove]

Not too terrible. Mine is about 13.5km/L at highway speeds, 10.5 in town.

Going by a rough translation from MPG to KPL

[hybrid charm]

what car is it

[mint plank]

It's usually measured in L/100KM not KPL

[noble grove]

2003 Toyota Corolla

[noble grove]

Ah, gotcha

So 32 US mpg on the highway, 25 US mpg in town

[hybrid charm]

87hp

Inline 4

[noble grove]

It doesn't have it's original motor, but it's an identical motor. When I bought it off my mechanic he had to swap the motor because the previous owner never changed the oil.

[hybrid charm]

Poor Toyota

[noble grove]

Yeah, motor was fucked.

[hybrid charm]

Our car is supposed to have abs

[noble grove]

I baby that new motor like crazy, throw full synthetic in every 5k miles

8k kilometers

[hybrid charm]

How many kilometers does it have now

[noble grove]

I think it's around 550k kilometers

[hybrid charm]

Oh

[noble grove]

The odometer is set at miles, and it stopped functioning at 299,999

So I'm using a fairly analogue method to keep track

[hybrid charm]

Our has 160k

[noble grove]

I've gone on a couple 1.5k kilometer trips with it.

[hybrid charm]

Our has gone 684 km once

That's 26k miles I believe

No

425 miles

[noble grove]

Yup, sounds like an inter-state trip to me.

[hybrid charm]

Top speed 175kmh

[noble grove]

Granted, my state is larger than most eastern states

[hybrid charm]

If it survives doing that

That is 108 mi/h

[noble grove]

I haven't pushed going faster than 136km/h, mainly because a speeding ticket can cause a ton of headaches for me.

I can't afford a $1k ticket

[hybrid charm]

I've seen someone going 340kmh on a highway here

In a 120kmh zone

[noble grove]

That's stupidly dangerous.

[hybrid charm]

At night 0 people on it

It was a Lamborghini huracan

Well I have to go it was nice talking with you

[noble grove]

Take care

[hybrid charm]

I didn't mention that we have a mercedes c180 elegance 1997

Better condition than the nissan

[unborn rain]

Just want opinions
I’m thinking of turning my AWD 2016 dodge charger into an off-road vehicle, so lifting it, putting off-road tires on it and other things of that nature. I asked my mum and she said that sounded stupid and sent me a gif of Obama giving a wtf face but she says everything I do to my car is stupid so any opinions from other people?

[noble grove]

Not a car guy, and it sounds like a poor financial decision, but it also sounds awesome

[unborn rain]

I have many money

[steel kindle]

Depends how much money you got

[unborn rain]

Many

[noble grove]

Do eet

[steel kindle]

It's pretty stupid but if you got the funds, go ahead

[unborn rain]

Well like stupid as in it will look stupid orrr

[noble grove]

ngl I dig it

[steel kindle]

If I were you, convert it to 4WD, put a beefier engine than the V6, reinforce the frame, put plates on the bottom attached to the frame so the undercarriage doesn't get screwed

[steel kindle]

That's a challenger

[unborn rain]

Well I wasn’t gonna do any rock climbing with it just like dirt roads, mud puddles and that stuff so I THINK awd would be okay for that

And I think my V6 is good enough

[steel kindle]

Not really, it'll be pushing a MUCH heavier car and it'll strain the engine

[unborn rain]

I guess that’s true

Shame the v8’s don’t come in awd

[steel kindle]

No but it's easy af to engine swap it

[unborn rain]

That’s the only reason I got the V6… would’ve went straight for a hellcat if not since I live in Michigan

[steel kindle]

You could go to armormax and buy a AWD hellcat

[unborn rain]

Wait wut

[steel kindle]

Yep

[unborn rain]

Like

Still a charger

Not just something with hellcat engine in it

[steel kindle]

Yep

[unborn rain]

I forgot the police chargers were v8 awd

I didn’t know they had hellcat ones though

[steel kindle]

This is the supercharged one ofc...

[steel kindle]

And armored

[unborn rain]

So I wouldn’t need to reinforce it myself

Probably just under

[steel kindle]

Nope and you can order it lifted from them

[unborn rain]

What.

That’s crazy

[steel kindle]

And the bottom is already reinforced to withstand an IED

Or so they say

[unborn rain]

So I wouldn’t even have to make this a project haha

Just order one

[steel kindle]

Nope

Just order

But you won't be able to get lights and sirens

[unborn rain]

Well that’s good because I wouldn’t know how to do half of what i wanted

[steel kindle]

As that's still illegal

[unborn rain]

Yeaaa

I saw a Facebook marketplace one with the lights and sirens still on it working and everything but it was an older charger

09 or 8

I went on the website and all that stuff offered reminds me of that uh

Tank vehicle

[steel kindle]

They probably put it on after

[unborn rain]

Reva… something I can’t remember the brand name

[steel kindle]

Rezvani

[unborn rain]

Yea yea that

I wanted to get one of those but… I don’t like the way they look exactly just what’s included

Is that not illegal too?

[steel kindle]

Nope

It's illegal if you deploy it for no reason

[unborn rain]

I’d so love to have that for when I’m going 10 over and someone is right behind me

[steel kindle]

But legal if its for defense

[unborn rain]

So like if two people in a truck are following me

With masks on

50+ over the limit

Is this defense if I use

[steel kindle]

I don't know, it is extremely dependant on the case

[unborn rain]

It happened to me when someone set up like a road block to steal my 09 charger

Sat there infront of a hill with their hazards on taking up the whole side of my lane to get me to stop and when I went past them anyway they followed me like that

[uncut saddle]

Very nice

[night steeple]

messed up my car a lil today, thankfully mostly paint
right when im about to change cars next month

nothing i cant fix, just put the headlights back in place

[slate kiln]

Whats the point of this chat?

[steel kindle]

To talk about vehicles

[hybrid charm]

Nordschleife time attacks

[unborn rain]

Do they learn the sound of the car to know when to shift or look down at rpms

[hybrid charm]

You can gradually feel that the car is decelerating as you move up within the RPM-band, once it is about 2/3 of the way from being unable to accelerate any further within said band that's when you shift up

Takes a lot of skill

Some drivers allow the car to hit the limiter and then perform quick-shifts but that isn't ideal

Then you've got cars like the 130i/NA2 NSX-R/350z Z-Tune that have light displays which tell you when to shift

[winged geyser]

ruby ston

[dull folio]

One of the best Porsche PTS colors

[winged geyser]

agreed

[stable raft]

Toy car

[hybrid charm]

Bro💀 thought those were real till I glanced at the second image

[jagged sentinel]

https://www.thedrive.com/news/gm-scraps-twin-turbo-gas-inline-six-truck-and-suv-engine-report

If nothing else, GM knows how to make a small-block V8

Yes, their recent V8s are "small" blocks and no, displacement is far from the only factor considered when distinguishing big and small blocks from each other

[gloomy helm]

Power band go whee

[unborn rain]

I had to look up what that was

Thank you for knowledge

[uncut saddle]

https://youtu.be/jN7mSXMruEo

I love notjustbikes so much

[jagged sentinel]

Waawaawaa

[uncut saddle]

[jagged sentinel]

Banning pickup trucks isn't happening

[uncut saddle]

oh the video isn't just about pickup trucks

it's also about suv's

[jagged sentinel]

Those aren't going away either lmao

[mint plank]

man i just want to ride motorbikes in peace without every car out to kill me unintentionally or deliberately

is that really too much to ask?

[uncut saddle]

big shame

[dull folio]

After seeing tens of hours worth of dashcam videos, its safe to say most US citizens shouldn't be able to drive at all, let along pickups and SUVs

[uncut saddle]

that's a completely different topic which I also wholeheartedly agree with

[dull folio]

You also shouldn't be able to drive a full-sized pickup truck with a standard license

[jagged sentinel]

Anything bigger then a crew cab short bed pickup truck should require some amount of additional certification imo

[dull folio]

yeah

Can't u rent a Uhaul with a basic drivers license as well in the US?

[jagged sentinel]

Any bigger then that and parking starts to really really suck

[jagged sentinel]

I believe so

You're allowed to rent different sizes of vehicle though

[old sedge]

Maybe we need it too. Here, trucks which require additional certification are industrial trucks like Isuzu Elf and Mitsubishi Fuso Canter. We also have restriction which people are only allowed to drive vehicles with AT

But it's rare for our agency to give AT only restrictions

[jagged sentinel]

Actually

I don't think it should require additional certification if it's a SRW

I do think that DRW (dual rear wheel or 'dually') should require some sort of proof that the extra metal is necessary for you

If not that then maybe the need to pay a little extra for it a month in insurance or something

[steel kindle]

How about the Kei truck I just bought? 😎

[hybrid charm]

GT-R vs Integra R at Twin Ring Motegi

[dreamy torrent]

Why did you buy a truck??

[steel kindle]

A kei truck and for fun

It's a Suzuki Carry

[dreamy torrent]

Who uses trucks for Fun lol?

[steel kindle]

I do

[steel kindle]

It is flooring it on a dirt path

[dreamy torrent]

Wdym?

[steel kindle]

Try it with a chea POS, flooring the accelerator down a bumpy dirt path

[dreamy torrent]

Oh cool

[unborn rain]

Anyone who buys a TRX

Or the millions of people who do this in trucks

Or this

Or this

So pretty much everyone who doesn’t use their truck just for work which is almost everyone with a truck

[jagged sentinel]

Are you from the US?

[jagged sentinel]

Or a raptor, or one of the older ford lightning trucks

Since those popularized the performance truck and the raptor is the reason it's still around

[dull folio]

Lets be honest, most trucks are pavement princesses

[jagged sentinel]

I have respect for people who do use the extra equipment they bought though

[steel kindle]

I don't have respect for people who put rubber bands on a Raptor and use it only for groceries

[steel kindle]

@distant kernel

[distant kernel]

🔥🔥

I see the turbo there

[noble fern]

can i post bonelab cars as a joke?

[steel kindle]

No

Bad

[noble fern]

ok

[dull folio]

the louvers on the side windows are tacky as fuck lol

[steel kindle]

They are, I won't lie

It's for lols

[dull folio]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf9WOuzeWhw

The last good Lotus, shame to see a great car brand do stupid shit

[heady swift]

they knew that they would no longer have a future

hence why they sold it and it's turning into an EV company

lotus makes small performance cars and constructs a lot of stuff for racing

that market is withering and will cease in less than 20 years

maybe there'll be a small revival, like what was done with the 7

but I doubt it

which is a shame because

[unborn rain]

I do not like fords

[unborn rain]

Not a single one of those are seen where I live then

[hybrid charm]

The Exige really improved over the years

It went from being a track-ready racer to what is in essence a supercar that you can daily without feeling guilty about it

Even though the ride may not be the best, but for what you're paying it's more than worth it

[heady swift]

you can't daily exiges

it'll be literally too painful

too unpractical

[coarse grail]

waddup

[heady swift]

the elise was more for that, though the evora is lotus' daily

thing with lotus is that they were not meant for dailies

[sage roost]

Lots Of Trouble Usually Serious

[heady swift]

the recent models are reliable

[sage roost]

I would happily daily an exige

[heady swift]

that's what most lotus owners said before buying an elise

there's no storage, you'll scrape everywhere, it stalls because of the race-tuned engine, you can't see from behind

literally one of the worst cars to daily

[sage roost]

Wait I mixed them up

The Elise

Not exige

my neighbor used to have one before he moved out

All I remember is that it was bright yellow

[heady swift]

the elise is better at that, since it's not as race-tuned nor modified

higher driving position, less stalling, more visibility

so it's a maybe

but both elise and exige are weekend cars

the evora is something which was meant to daily

though a boxter or 711 excels at that

the elise also leaks when it rains

like I love lotuses, and would want to own one in the future, but the only reason why I'm considering that is that I don't really need a car here or in denmark

I'd say the elise is cheaper to daily than a boxter/718, since it uses a toyota drivetrain (and the lotus-end parts you'll probably replace, since that's the point of these cars) but they're really just for masochists

[sage roost]

I’ll just use my mom’s car if I want practicality

But unfortunately this type of cars is quite rare here

Only Z’s and 86s

[heady swift]

I see quite a few elises and evora's here

more than Zs and 86s

though miata's are the defacto-standard

[sage roost]

Not even Miatas are that common either

[heady swift]

but lotus owners are always psychopaths, so we get along nicely

[sage roost]

once in a blue moon do I see a Miata

[heady swift]

honestly they're very overrated

they're fun, but annoying to maintain and extremely impractical

and you don't have the same tuning potential as other lightweight sportscars

older ones are crusty

[sage roost]

Real

[heady swift]

still mad that the a110 is an auto

like, aside from manufacturing budget, it makes no sense to make an enthusiast's car automatic

in porsches I can understand, since those cater to a broad market

but stuff like 4Cs, elises/exiges and a110s is for specific people

[sage roost]

Even then Porsche still sells MT cars

[dull folio]

Finally someone with common sense, thank you

And speaking of Lotus, I'd love to own a 2nd gen Elise as a weekend car, but the prices are pretty ridiculous these days

[heady swift]

yeah and they'll get more expensive in the future

s2 and s3 models here, in ok state, are like mid 30K to 50K

but personally I'd love an exige in like 10 ish years

[dull folio]

S2s are roughly 25k+ here, but if I'll ever have enough to get one, I'll buy a Speedster instead (same chassis, different bodypanels, GM 2.2 N/A engine or GM 2.0 Turbo - both are shit)

[heady swift]

like the opel speedster?

[dull folio]

yeah

[heady swift]

honestly the front likes nice

the rear not so much

[dull folio]

I love that thing, probably because the Hot Pursuit 2 nostalgia

[heady swift]

they're already 20K here

[dull folio]

pretty much the same here

But i feel like the Speedster is a bit more unique

[heady swift]

I mean they're quite the same thing

but it's kinda nice to have an opel sportscar

no one expects it

[dull folio]

yeah true

But with these prices, i'll most likely end up with a 996 in the future

[heady swift]

they're kinda the same prices here

30K ish

[dull folio]

It's the only 911 I have a chance of owning and honestly I don't hate how it looks

[jagged sentinel]

Like manual only or having both options

[heady swift]

the a110 is automatic only

[dull folio]

Enthusiast cars should be manual only

if you can't drive stick, you don't deserve to drive a fun car

[heady swift]

It's not even that

It makes no sense from a marketing perspective

[jagged sentinel]

That is kinda disappointing

[heady swift]

the current market for sub 100K, lightweight 2 seaters is: 4C, 718, Elise/Exige and A110

If you want something fast, reliable and daily you buy the porsche

If you want italian, you buy the 4C

[dull folio]

we're talking used only?

[heady swift]

If you want pure driving experience, and sore backs you buy lotus

The A110 doesn't fit in anywhere, since it can't compete with the 718 in terms of utility, elise in terms of driving experience and 4C in styling

[heady swift]

Mostly just current market cars

[jagged sentinel]

Are people still upset the C8 isn't getting a stick

[dull folio]

Yes, because its lame

every other gen got it, why not the "pinnacle" of the corvette name?

[jagged sentinel]

Because less then 15% of C7 corvettes sold had a stick

And because of something to do with structural rigidity

[jagged sentinel]

Correction: 26.6%

[dull folio]

thats a lot tbh

[jagged sentinel]

Apparently not enough

[dull folio]

Even Toyota got bullied into making a manual A90

[jagged sentinel]

The supra borrows lots of parts from BMW

[heady swift]

completely forgot about the A90

[dull folio]

Reminds me of all the nissan fanboys saying the new Z will destroy the A90, good times lmao

[heady swift]

the Z does have very cool styling

[jagged sentinel]

Good looking car

[dull folio]

The rear is okay, but the front end aint it

I thought they'd modernize the 370 styling, but they borrowed the chassis instead lol

[jagged sentinel]

Maybe the C8 will get a manual, maybe not

I don't know if they could use one of their existing transmissions though

"Piatek said that the real thing that put the team over the edge in their decision was a lack of customer demand. Citing manual-transmission take rakes for the C7 Corvette, which started at or slightly above 50 percent when it launched as a 2014 model, he says those have more recently dwindled down to only 20 percent. (Perhaps these are the same cretins who have been begging for all-season tires, which are newly standard on the C8.)"

[jagged sentinel]

Per Car and Driver

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a28531606/2020-chevy-corvette-manual-transmission/

[dreamy torrent]

Nope

Why tho?

[jagged sentinel]

The concept of using trucks for fun or owning trucks when you have no need for them at all is a mentality I really only see commonly in the US and Canada

I've heard they're picking up some steam in Australia though

[dull folio]

Speaking of Australia, most of the US crybabies who claim they need their huge pickups would do just fine with UTEs

[jagged sentinel]

Most people who own pickups don't need them

[jagged sentinel]

Or a compact truck

Since the VAST majority of new trucks are sold with 2 rows

[dull folio]

Oh, or go the european route and get a van lol

[jagged sentinel]

Or just get a vehicle that better suits your needs

Like a civic or some NPC car

Or an SUV

[dull folio]

SUVs are aids

Same as huge pickups

[jagged sentinel]

They're less aids then pickups

In some ways

[jagged sentinel]

Define huge

[dull folio]

even what US manufacturers call "small-size pickup" today is pretty fucking big

[jagged sentinel]

Not by American Standards

For me, "big trucks" start with 3/4 ton trucks and go up

[dull folio]

Because americans have been brainwashed into thinking they need big vehicles

[jagged sentinel]

Our roads also aren't 5 million years old

Made to accommodate cars, so our cars can be bigger without as much worry for tight roads

[jagged sentinel]

It's not that we need them; it's that we want them and that we can have them and still be able to comfortably drive where they wouldn't be able to in some places in Europe or Asia

[dull folio]

yeah, but why would you want big cars in the first place

[jagged sentinel]

Everything is bigger over here

[dull folio]

they get worse mpg, they're harder to maneuver into parking spots etc

never understood this american mentality

[jagged sentinel]

Some people know they don't need big vehicles, so they don't get them

[jagged sentinel]

The answer usually is "because we can"

[dull folio]

I'm from europe and I would love to own a sporty kei car

.... rather than getting forced into getting a shitty and expensive EV

[jagged sentinel]

Not a huge fan of kei cars

But I'm from Detroit

So huge surprise there

I want a pickup truck

Keyword being "want"

Maybe something like a Silverado ZR2 or F150 Lightning

The lightning is probably the better choice for me because I don't tow very often

The lightning can't tow for shit lmao

[dull folio]

I've always wanted a Cappuccino but now that they cost 20k in Europe (Yes, actually 20k), I'd much rather get the Honda S660 (4 year old car for the same price)

But for some reason we don't have kei cars in Europe, because the European union wants smaller cars with lower emissions

But i guess kei cars aren't what they're looking for

[swift galleon]

when everything in the us is around cars, in rural parts where u need to transport stuff, pickup trucks makes much more sense

in urban areas or driving for the sake of driving

yea a sedan or suv makes sense

but once ur outside where u have to travel through interstates, pickup trucks are much more needed than just some sedan even if the mpg is worse

plus a lot of roads especially in the south are rugged

so u need a car with good clearance which trucks offer

[analog lagoon]

Same

[dull folio]

yeah, but from what you said you're part of the 10% that actually use their trucks for what they were designed

I'm talking about the people that buy the biggest fucking truck possible and only drive it in town to their local Walmart, bonus point if they put a lift kit on it (the car won't see a dirt road in its whole life)

[swift galleon]

Ud be surprise on how little people actually drive those things around

its mostly those die hard red necks who does that but most people are working class so theres very little need for those

[jagged sentinel]

Depends on where you live

I live in the suburbs but I see quite a few trucks, mostly half-ton and 3/4-ton trucks, some of which do have leveling kits/lift kits and wheels

Leveling kits are harder to spot sometimes though

But the majority of trucks I see at home are newish, stock and probably still under warranty lol

And none of them are "work truck" trims

[opal forum]

Today i saw a Brabus G63 passing by

that car is crazy expensive, jeez

[kind osprey]

Me and the bois in Germany

Me and the bois in Japan a week later

[vestal garnet]

JDM

[kind osprey]

Those are JDG's
Japanese Domestically Goofy

Idk if I should take the autozam or the telephone booth

[uncut saddle]

the telephone booth is an icon

incredible visibility, sleek design

compact

[kind osprey]

[opal breach]

only two of those cars are german

[kind osprey]

Germany has the Autobahn, Königssee-Bodensee run, the Nürburgring. If I were to pick anywhere in the world to drive a fast car it would be there, Austria, and Switzerland, hence the bois being in Germany.

[opal breach]

ur dad

[dull folio]

everybody gansta until they wrap their precious car around the barrier at the ring lmao

[kind osprey]

Even worse, you reminded he I was watching a Nurburgring crash compilation and this poor clean looking s2000 got completely rear ended by some dick who did not know what he was doing on that track.

The saddest crashes there are the ones that take out other peoples cars especially when the other cars were just minding their own business and driving responsible

[dull folio]

Oh yeah I saw that one, the crash compilations from there are nuts

[next summit]

Alright random question

Anyone know how to top swap a 3800 (series 2 l36 specifically)

[unborn rain]

This guy named YouTube I think does, if not this other guy named Google should 👍

[steel kindle]

The early 2000s Buick V6?

[next summit]

Ye the bullet proof ones

[steel kindle]

They're fucking monsters, yeah I'll get in touch with my friend, he builds them for fun

[next summit]

Oh hell yeah man I appreciate it, and rn I’ve got an 04 Monte Carlo SS that’ll crank but no start it’s got the 3.8L V6 in it it’s n/a and I believe it’s something to do with the injectors

[steel kindle]

It might, how long has it been sitting?

[next summit]

Bout 3 months

Replaced the starter, alternator, and battery

[steel kindle]

Did you change the fluids?

[next summit]

When I bought it (abt December 2022)

[steel kindle]

Replace the injectors

[next summit]

I’m thinking about it, it’s an easy job on its own

[steel kindle]

Yeah and that's the easiest one to test first

[next summit]

Appreciate it man, just gotta save up a bit more

[steel kindle]

There's a few things that could do it

[steel kindle]

Yeah, focus on money first

[next summit]

Like I’m getting fuel to the rails just I’m guessing it’s not getting into the combustion chamber

[steel kindle]

It could also be a bad crankshaft position sensor, fuel pumps, spark plugs, or just insufficient compression

For me to know, I'd have to see it myself but I can guide you in dms to show you what I should look for

I had the '01 Lesabre limited that had the exact 3.8

[next summit]

yeah go ahead and dm me man

[covert dragon]

public transport

[hybrid charm]

Public transport ain't good

Or fast

[fast edge]

it could be

[hybrid charm]

In greece no

[heady swift]

yeah it's awful

going to greece in a few weeks

gonna uber myself everywhere ngl

[hybrid charm]

I know how awful it is cause I live here

[hybrid charm]

Where exactly

[heady swift]

not telling you lmao

buy me dinner for geez

[hybrid charm]

Gonna buy you some souvlaki

[heady swift]

💀

[hybrid charm]

Well have fun

And be careful

[heady swift]

no

have some tommi makinen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsAzpzi57u8&ab_channel=ROSMANAO|RacingMotorsportVideos

[hybrid charm]

You'll tell me after you leave

[steel kindle]

There is, its called a Buick Lesabre

They're actually very fast for what they are, incredibly reliable and dirt cheap

[kind osprey]

um, that's neither fast or good looking

That car would fall under the good and cheap, it's not fast in any way shape or form

[steel kindle]

It's fast for a car, its only 7.5 0-60 N/A but compared to other countries, that car IS fast

[kind osprey]

7.5-8 second 0-60 is not fast

Most cheap cars outperform that nowadays

especially if they are awd

[steel kindle]

Are you comparing it to high performance cars?

[kind osprey]

no, even regular cars

the standard is 6-7 seconds

8 is slow

[steel kindle]

Modern or 20 year old ones?

[kind osprey]

and fast would fall under high performance cars, you can't call a Minivan that does 0-60 in 6.5 seconds a fast car when there are cars that do 0-60 in 2.8 seconds

they are incomparable

so something that is a normal car would fall under good and cheap

Fast and Good would be like a Ferrari or a 911

Fast and Cheap would be a kit car or an old Lotus

[steel kindle]

That makes no sense

[kind osprey]

or some crapped out jdm that is falling apart but has like 400hp

what doesn't make sense

[steel kindle]

You're saying only high performance cars are fast

And you compare a 20 year old car to the average of today, not then

That doesn't make sense

[kind osprey]

If this list includes every car in the world, then yes fast would mean it would actually have to be fast, not "this is fast for (insert cope here)"

it would have to be genuinely fast to fit in the percentile if being compared to every car on eearth

[steel kindle]

Bruh, no one compares all cars together, they compare to the classifications... it's like crying how a Corvette is slow compared to a Divo

[kind osprey]

Good and Cheap would be your everyday car, old or new it would be under the category of just a regular car.
Fast and cheap would be track toys and fun purpose built things, they are fast and thrilling but are incredible impractical and unreliable and shit for lack of better works, but fun
Fast and Good are those exotic expensive cars, because they are not cheap

that is what this tri venn diagram represents

[steel kindle]

Also like crying how the TRX is slow compared to a Lamborghini McLaren Sienna

[kind osprey]

it's nothing to overcomplicate tbh

you can't say an 8 second 0-60 grandpa car is fast good and cheap, it would just be good and cheap because 8 second 0-60 would put it at such a low percentile compared to all other vehicles on earth

[steel kindle]

Fine, you can easily make the Buick go 0-60 in 3 second range even incredibly cheap, you can put 30k worth of mods in it and it'll still be cheaper than newer cars

[kind osprey]

it isn't the slowest but at least 75% of cars could smoke it

[steel kindle]

Oh god no

You are so so wrong

[kind osprey]

That is now fast and cheap

[steel kindle]

And still good

Those engines are almost unkillable if you take care of them

[kind osprey]

how is saying 0-60 in 8 seconds slow as shit wrong? it's not by any metric unless you only order ev's from alibaba that can't even go 60mph

[steel kindle]

Are you considering MPH? MOST sports cars around that time were barely faster

[kind osprey]

0-60 in 8 seconds wasn't even good 40 years ago

let alone today

[steel kindle]

YES IT WAS

[kind osprey]

8 seconds is slow by any modern standard

[steel kindle]

Modern, not 20 years ago

You really do have to stop comparing older cars to new cars

No one does that

[kind osprey]

0-60 in 8 seconds is beating the most basic of economy cars from similar eras

It is objectively slow unless we suddenly went back to 1984

[steel kindle]

Compare to the corvette that was 7.8

Or the 200s that wa 6 range and yeah, if you remember the fuel issue in the early 2000s again

Even the modern civic goes 0 to 60 and 8.2

[kind osprey]

0-60 in itself is a very flawed metric, a Corvette is much much fast than the ugly grandpa car even if the "0-60" is similar. Tires were utter garbage back then, the car is rwd with no traction or stability assists to plant it to the ground, and even if you have it on old shitty tires the car is still more agile

[steel kindle]

OK now like most people do then you'd compare prices

A car that you can get in good condition for about $1100

[kind osprey]

they can do 7.5, which is still better than 8 in one of the cheapest new cars from a reputable brands you could purchase

[kind osprey]

it is cheap and good

[steel kindle]

I'll just talk to a car enthusiast

[kind osprey]

I am one, i'm just not delusional

an ugly grandpa car with an 0-60 in 8 seconds is not fast when compared to the entirety of car son the planet

that is such a weird hill to die on

[steel kindle]

You aren't if you have to compare everyday cars to sports cars and supercars to say it's not fast

[kind osprey]

idk why you are trying to narrow it down, the tri venn diagram is for every car

every car includes fast cars

[steel kindle]

I didn't see the vindygram saying that it's every car that ever existed

[kind osprey]

if I were to compare the boring grandpa car to something slower then sure, it is faster than something slower, but out of every car built on earth it is beaten by most

[kind osprey]

It is implied, most people don't gatekeep entire segments to skew data to their favor

if it is about cars, then it is for all cars

not things to justify calling a slow car fast

[steel kindle]

No, most just do for a certain category

[kind osprey]

...

[steel kindle]

There's no such thing as cheap and fast ever if comparing all cars

[kind osprey]

Cheap and fast would be kit cars, purpose builts, and impractical stuff like that

Like a little Lotus or Caterham is a nice example of something cheap fast and thrilling but not very good

it is impractical and unreliable

[steel kindle]

Then fine buick as a purpose built car by someone like me that would make it have 700whp while keeping it reliable

[kind osprey]

that thing would be a death trap with 700hp, it's shaped like a clown shoe

[steel kindle]

All cars that have that much power are deathtraps

[kind osprey]

Cars with that power from factory are professionally made to have that power, or cars built from the ground up with chassis that were going to have that power

A Pontiac Fiero with 700hp and a Ferrari 458 with 700hp will handle very differently lol

a 700hp fiero does sound fun ngl

[steel kindle]

And? I can professionally do that, my friend and I did that to our focus and it's extremely safe

[kind osprey]

but tree wrapping activities for sure

[kind osprey]

the rigidity and physics behind a basic economy car with that much torque is what makes it a death trap. The car was never meant to do the speeds it would then be capable of

this doesn't mean it is impossible to do it well

it is just saying there are factors beyond shoving power in a car

you can't shove 700hp in a car and leave many things stock if the car was only meant to take like 180

you can but it's asking for something to break, or to be a tree magnet

Notice how these 800-1200hp supra handle like utter shit and can barely turn

[kind osprey]

but a Ferrari or Porsche with those numbers does just fine

[thin elm]

I love the color

[rancid wedge]

sup guys

i have foxbody

[short crow]

Heyy ST

[steel kindle]

@hexed blade

(I'm taking my time because anti-spam)

[hexed blade]

Idk bout u but , most of these look like car to me

[hexed blade]

Bruh u ain’t even showing what ya watched search for ? Figures

[steel kindle]

Suspension test rally racing

[hybrid charm]

[loud spade]

It’s sneezing

[steel kindle]

Holy fuck, my Gameboy camera has better picture quality

[vestal garnet]

[opal forum]

Is that yours?

[steel kindle]

My friend and I built her, yes

[opal forum]

That's awesome

[old sedge]

The Peugeot 9X8 Hybrid always suffer serious technical difficulties, even in this Sebring race. Will those cars even finish Le Mans?

[cobalt quartz]

Yes it was 😆😆

R u mental?

[unborn rain]

Color recommendations for a new Gen charger? Mine is Pitch black with a blue interior but I can’t make up my mind on what color to change it to, I don’t mind changing my interior to match exterior but idk if I want it blue, orange, purple or green

[wicked cargo]

Poopy blue

(Jk)

[steel kindle]

He compares cars that were fast for the time in their category to hypercars

[steel kindle]

Dark green

[cobalt quartz]

So he is mental

[steel kindle]

Yep, I said that the 2001 Buick Lesabre is fast for what it is as it has a 7.5 0-60 and is dirt cheap, also the 3800 Series II V-6s are almost unkillable

[cobalt quartz]

Lol

[steel kindle]

It is a crown vic based FWD 200 horsepower V6, 7.5 for that is immensely impressive for it also to be N/A

G platform (GMX220) which is extremely similar to the Panther platform the Crown Vic uses

[unborn rain]

I don’t like darker colors unless it’s like dark purple

[steel kindle]

I think the green is just very nice

[unborn rain]

I dun like

[steel kindle]

Bruh

[unborn rain]

Bruh

[vestal garnet]

Bruh

[steel kindle]

Tell me every letter you can see, all are crystal clear

[unborn rain]

I saw the message and not the image and I was expecting a color blind test

I would fail

E H N D F N F T R S R F D

[steel kindle]

Failed, now its excusable that you don't like green 😎

[unborn rain]

I like brighter green

[steel kindle]

You're blind so I can excuse that 🙂

[unborn rain]

But I’m not

[unborn rain]

Do you like dis color?

[steel kindle]

Yes I do

Which engine does your charger have?

[unborn rain]

The not as cool one

V6 only ones that came in AWD except police chargers

I will be buying a jailbreak by next year though

[next summit]

Good luck mfs are going quick

[unborn rain]

I already have a seller, they’re just waiting for some other car they want to buy

[hot sail]

very nice

[steel kindle]

Very nice but where's the vehicle?

This is transportation after all

[hybrid elbow]

cmon thats awful

it can work but on a charger

nahh

[jagged sentinel]

I dig it but not on that base model with those shit plastic wheels

[hybrid charm]

Name the car

[thin elm]

Philip

[kind osprey]

Steve

[jagged sentinel]

1955 Chrysler C-300

[wicked cargo]

timmy

[hybrid charm]

I meant the model 🤣

[opal breach]

Tobias

[steel kindle]

Yeah I agree

[steel kindle]

It's nice on the charger hellcat

[kind osprey]

When I'm in a contest for the ugliest looking new car rims and my opponent is the "base sport" trim of any economy car manufacturer

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-wow-gif-7230900

[heady swift]

where is the spoiler

[hybrid charm]

No spoiler club

[heady swift]

💀

[hybrid charm]

F8 green looks better on the durango imo

[steel kindle]

People be like "where spoiler" on a 158 horsepower FWD economy car that has a 0-60 in 10.2 seconds 💀

[kind osprey]

A lancer going 0-60 in 10.2 💀

[vestal garnet]

💀

[steel kindle]

I was saying most economy cars not a Lancer

I know it's like 5.4 for a lancer

I'm talking about cars like this

[kind osprey]

Where's the wing

And the canards

No downforce smh

[steel kindle]

Raises the 0-60 to 11.5 but it can make the turn better at 20mph 😎

[kind osprey]

Exactly

[steel kindle]

@gusty roost

[unborn rain]

Big car

[gusty roost]

Amazing

[steel kindle]

There's many more insane American vehicles

That's more normal

[gusty roost]

I wonder is exists a Tank with 8 Barrels

[steel kindle]

Yes

A few

But they're ass

[gusty roost]

Nah, maybe they need some love

[steel kindle]

Some were able to be killed my machine guns

[gusty roost]

How sad,

[steel kindle]

And that's if they didn't break down first or one of the 6-12 crew members didn't accidentally die

[hybrid charm]

Bro don't know an evo when he sees one

💀

[steel kindle]

Read the next comment down

Yes I know it's an Evo and said that, I was playing a joke by someone asking "where's the spoiler" 💀

God, people will read one thing but won't read the next and get literally any context 💀

[hybrid charm]

He was serious when he asked that tho

[vestal garnet]

where's the spoiler

[heady swift]

that's an evo

[kind osprey]

https://www.gt40s.com/threads/sold-superlite-slc-lt4-for-sale-sold.54158/

I wannn it

:(

[heady swift]

some of the aero doesn't make sense

but it still looks cool

[gloomy helm]

Like what

[heady swift]

the rear side vent could be more effective if the air is given an actual path, the front wheels need a higher outlet for increased outflow, the bottom could use a side vent for better road-side airflow control, the spoiler should preferably be as high as the A pillar, etc

like obviously it doesn't matter, since it's group c inspired and not a competitive racing car

[old sedge]

I found a good way for an endurance race car to get by not having turbo and hybrid to eliminate turbo lag. Instead of having large V8 NA engine, they can always put a little smaller V8 supercharged engine in it

[heady swift]

the bottom part that tapers to the rear wheel doesn't make sense with the rest of the outlets, since the airflow can be disrupted in the middle with whatever comes out of the front wheel vent

preferably everything is guided the same way, or you concretely disperse them into two different flows

[old sedge]

So Alpine and Vanwall can replace their hypercar's Gibson 4.5L NA V8 engine with a 3.0L or 3.5L supercharged V8 engine.

What could possibly go wrong?

[heady swift]

superchargers are big and require torque and bigger engines in general. Turbo's provide more top-end performance, which is more relevant to endurance, while being compatible with smaller engines

which saves weight and makes cars easier to design

superchargers are often more taxing in endurance has well

hybrid systems are superior to NA or supercharged v8 set-ups as you already have instant torque, without it straining the engine. The turbo can be relatively big, as lower-end performance is provided by the hybrid system, prompting improved top end too

[old sedge]

So that could be the reason why Alpine and Vanwall just use NA engines instead of putting superchargers on them?

[heady swift]

back in the day you could get away with a big V8, but these days small I4/V6 hybrid configurations are far more efficient

the latter accelerates faster than many current F1 cars

[old sedge]

The problem with hybrid systems is the complexity which can cause reliability issues especially with low reliability standards, that's what Glick once said

And Peugeot often have problems with their hybrid hypercars

[heady swift]

superchargers are big, rely on torque-heavy engines and are very taxing

in terms of reliability that's a huge con

[heady swift]

yes, but the brands that use hybrid tech already have huge teams and funding, so it's not an issue

[old sedge]

Oh my... that could be why even in the old times like 1960s, superchargers are not used

[heady swift]

it is for glick, since their budget is eh

[old sedge]

One person said that the problem with Peugeot is their acceptable reliability standard is low

If they don't improve, their hypercars will fall apart in Le Mans

[heady swift]

and superchargers are inherently inefficient

they use force from the engine to be powered

a turbochargers relies on excess force

endurance is a race of efficiency, and thus superchargers quickly fell out of favour

[old sedge]

So this is what people meant by superchargers rob the engines some power

[heady swift]

yeah, because it directly relies on engine power, hence why torque is needed. Turbochargers use the force from exhaust airflow to spin, whereas superchargers are more mechanical and rely on belts/chains connected to the crankshaft

obviously it takes away power that would otherwise go to the wheels, so it's inherently inefficient

[old sedge]

Torque, so that could be why most cars which have supercharged engines are American muscle cars

[heady swift]

but the forced induction can make up for that

[heady swift]

yeah, torque is rotational force and thus important to turning the crankshaft

[old sedge]

How about this method to mitigate turbo lag, especially for GT3 and GTE cars? Sequential twin-turbocharging?

For tracks with lots of difficult cornering like Nurburgring, this could work...?

[heady swift]

technically, yeah

but twinturbo's are very complex

and prone to failure in racing

the only gt3 car I can think of that uses tt is the mclaren

but in gte they allow anti-lag

the ford gt uses it

but the entire category allows for a lot of freedom and budgeting, so a lot of manufacturers choose NA

and everything is balanced through BoP, so to save on weight and possible failure-points, NA is chosen over turbo in gt3

[old sedge]

GTE's cost is the reason why this is their last year in WEC though

[heady swift]

exactly, the almost infinite spending is why it died

you can spend less for gt3, or spend the same amount and move up to endurance or gt2

[old sedge]

Race articles say that GT3 will indeed race in WEC, including Le Mans starting next year

[heady swift]

yeah

GT3 is extremely popular

and well-established

[old sedge]

Most GT3 cars are Europeans, particularly German

We need Asian and American GT3 cars

[heady swift]

the issue with GTE is that it's awkward. They're faster than GT3, yet require more funding and are slower than GT2 (supergt and former dtm). There's no benefit to GTE, as the extra money doesn't compensate

[old sedge]

WEC race cars are sure becoming slower for money

Like how LMP1 and even LMP2 are originally faster than hypercars

[heady swift]

gt3 is popular in asia

look at supergt

[old sedge]

I mean, Asian and American car brands for GT3

[heady swift]

you have prof teams with typical gt3 cars, amateur teams with their own (gt300 class)

and then there's the gt500 class

supergt is extremely popular (and personally more enjoyable than gt3), so there's not much incentive

[heady swift]

americans not really

[old sedge]

The Corvette C8R is GTE, but somehow modified to meet GT3 requirements at Daytona

[heady swift]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Super_GT_Series

[heady swift]

GTE is just modified GT3

you can revert some changes to turn it into GT3

[old sedge]

Oh wow, more Japanese car brands

[heady swift]

in other words, GTE is a development from GT3, so reversions are possible

[old sedge]

I heard that even LMP2 will be removed from WEC because of LMH and LMDh as well as there will be customer teams who will buy those

[heady swift]

reverting from WRC/Rally1 to rally2 isn't since these are completely different cars

[heady swift]

LMH/LMDH are midway between LMP1 and 2

reduced spending, weight increase, power decrease, improved design-freedom (for lmh) and standardised frames (for lmdh)

[old sedge]

https://www.motorsport.com/wec/news/lmp2-class-set-to-be-axed-from-wec-from-2024/10408530/#:~:text=LMP2 class set to be axed from WEC from 2024

Sad...

[heady swift]

LMP2 is to be removed, as its role is entirely replaced by lmdh

[heady swift]

not really

they were kinda useless

fodder between gt3 and lmp1

what FIA did was combine LMP1 and 2

[old sedge]

So below LMH/LMDh will be directly GT3 then

[heady swift]

the mistake was turning lmh and lmdh into two categories

every manufacturer has been against the two distinct categories

[heady swift]

yeah

makes more sense

[old sedge]

They do compete in same category, but LMH has more freedom in terms of designing or building a car

Porsche suggested to remove LMH which Glickenhaus criticized

[heady swift]

yeah LMDh is essentially big brands buying an existing body and putting their own engine and suspension under it

but the issue is that these are the same as lmh, spec-wise

yet are two different categories

[heady swift]

porsche was against the separation of these two classes

which I can understand

[old sedge]

I guess both have good points

Because Porsche doesn't want two classes while Glickenhaus' point is it would be unfair for manufacturers who want to design a hypercar from scratch

I think LMDh was made just to allow them to compete in IMSA and WEC

[heady swift]

I think that both LMH and LMDh should be the same class

[heady swift]

it was to pull more manufacturers in, especially from asia and the us

[old sedge]

Oh

And for some reason, there are people who really think that FIA is all about money nowadays

Someone even called them mafia, maFIA

[heady swift]

not really, lmdh is budget-wise much cheaper than lmh. With that reduced cost comes standardised bodies, which can be worse than coach-built ones (like glick and gazoo)

[heady swift]

it is

[old sedge]

Wait, FIA is greedy with money?

[heady swift]

most of FIAs decisions are based on money

[old sedge]

Good point though

[heady swift]

racing is fun for us, but for companies it's about R&D and marketing (unfortunately). FIA needs to pull in manufacturers and teams to have races fun enough for people to watch, and profitable enough for companies to partake in

hence why FIA decides based on money

[old sedge]

I'm still annoyed that I missed the 1st 53 minutes of 2023 1000 miles of Sebring because I wanted to watch Glickenhaus onboard which is behind fiawec.tv website/app, I was willing to pay, but their app and website load too slow and have site breaking glitch.

[heady swift]

LMP1 is more fun, but the current change from LMP1/2 + GTE to LMH/LMDH and GT3 has caused twice as many manufacturers to join

[old sedge]

Their app doesn't even have a back button

IMSA website is a lot better and free

[heady swift]

I just watch illegally

[old sedge]

I feel like if Le Mans is not hosted by FIA, then IMSA would be a lot more significant than the FIA WEC

[heady swift]

eh

american racing has never been prominent outside the US

IMSA still relies on FIA regulation, as do cars in asia

simply because of tracks and companies, europe will remain the most prominent pool for racing

[old sedge]

Wait, if IMSA relies on FIA regulation, why didn't they allow Glick to race there?

[heady swift]

because it's an lmh

not a lmdh

lmdh is regulated for IMSA as well

[old sedge]

Jim claimed that he was initially told by IMSA that his hypercar will be allowed to race there

[heady swift]

lmh strictly for wec

[heady swift]

IMSA and WEC were discussing their tactics and agreed on a shared category

[old sedge]

He complained that IMSA's refusal to allow his hypercar to race there caused a financial damage on him

[heady swift]

jim's a weird dude and doesn't have the same advisors as big brands

thus he makes a lot of dumb mistakes

it was quite obvious from a logistical point of view that the separation of categories would happen

[old sedge]

Well, what I learned from Ford-Ferrari war and Jim is promises by race organizers and officials can be broken, and I think Jim should've expected that as well he should've expected rejection by IMSA because he doesn't have LMDh

[heady swift]

when the FIA discusses with stakeholders, they get people from vw/fiat group and individual racing teams

not a random dude with a non-existent car company

who just really likes ferrari's

[old sedge]

So in the unlikely scenario that Jim sues IMSA, his chances of success would be low then?

[heady swift]

zero to none

[old sedge]

Jim also claims to be a small team fighting giants.

It's just that in Twitter, some fans wanted Jim and IMSA to take their battle in the court

And with multiple big car manufacturers in WEC, I can see the possibility of FIA favoring hypercar hybrids up to the point that Jim's complaints would fall into deaf ears

[heady swift]

jim's still in the racerboy mentality of the 60s, where racing wasn't a corporate ordeal. You had lancia putting salt on tracks and everyone lying about their specs. Nowadays, racing is R&D and consumer exposure. The FIA/IMSA decides based on financial sustainability and corporate interest. While I admire jim's passion and dislike the heavy corporate nature of current racing, he's fighting the wrong battle

[old sedge]

I just wish his company and budget grow bigger

But sometimes, I think that his budget is shrinking since he didn't even join all WEC races last year

[heady swift]

he's shrinking because he doesn't have a consumer base

[old sedge]

His car brand is still young after all

Younger than millennials

[heady swift]

endurance is a race of efficiency, it's about who can run the farthest, not the fastest. Glick has a more old-school approach, which is detrimental in the format of WEC

Hybrid I4/V6 is extremely efficient, hence why it dominated endurance

I4 turbo is extremely efficient, hence why it dominates rally

[old sedge]

And I bet most customer racing teams who can afford to buy hypercars would choose to buy hybrids over his hypercar

[heady swift]

You can change things, but if they're not done for the sake of efficiency, they'll make your car worse

[heady swift]

he's in the wrong format

glickenhaus is old school italian racer but 2020s. The issue is that endurance is about efficiency, not flamboyance or sound

he'd fit better in gt3

[old sedge]

I think he already have plans for GT3

And another problem is with his budget, if he builds a hybrid hypercar, it would probably suffer reliability problems worse than Peugeot 9X8

Unless he gets backed by big sponsors to help him with that

But man, Ferrari did really good. If they didn't commit big mistakes in the Sebring, they would've possibly won. When I watched the Ferrari onboard, I saw the driver overtake Glickenhaus and even Peugeot easily

[heady swift]

glick can't and won't build hybrids

they're old-school

I mean they got pipo to design a v8

[old sedge]

https://www.dailysportscar.com/2022/04/08/glickenhaus-target-wec-gt3-class-in-2024.html

GT3 requires a car to meet a certain number of production, right?

[heady swift]

they make among the most efficient I4s, but glick wanted to have two of them stuck together

[old sedge]

I see, that gave birth to their V8...

[heady swift]

yeah they're planning on homologating it

[old sedge]

Oh, for a car to join GT3 race, the car must be produced at least 20 times within the first 2 years

[heady swift]

yeah it's very low

[old sedge]

So Glickenhaus should be able to meet that requirement with their 004

[heady swift]

yeah he knows plenty of wealthy friends

[old sedge]

I truly respect Jim for:

1. His passion for racing
2. His passion in fighting against corporate racing like you said
3. Being hands on in his social media accounts

But I agree that he really should rethink his approach in fighting the battle against the corporations.

[heady swift]

they can pull a lancia

yeah exactly

[old sedge]

In his social media accounts, he does answer questions

He got harassed 2 years ago because of his sim racing tweet though

I agree with him that sim racing is not as realistic as real racing, but I think he went a little far when he said "Everything else is meaningless bullshit."

And about this, I don't know what to say since cars in Ph are expensive and I never raced even in sim.

But he did change his views on sim racing I think when he once tweeted that he's happy that people are using his cars in sim racing.

[steel kindle]

Yes now please read what I said, you didn't get the joke and I explained it like 3 times

[steel kindle]

I think it looks better, the Evo doesn't really need a wing

[hoary sentinel]

Anyone have weeni Issi rally

[unborn rain]

Not you

[hoary sentinel]

Oh

[unborn rain]

Cargobob

[old sedge]

Even Camaro will be ended...
https://www.autoindustriya.com/auto-industry-news/chevrolet-ending-camaro-model-run-in-2024.html

[opal forum]

Then reintroduced again, but electric

[cinder galleon]

Sad

[old sedge]

There will be a Camaro SUV.
https://www.caranddriver.com/chevrolet/camaro-suv

[steel kindle]

Bruh that shit ugly as fuck

And ofc it might be an EV

[old sedge]

It's a trend

[steel kindle]

I don't mind EVs but at least don't put the V8 muscle car names under a EV SUV

I won't mind shit like if it was a EV Equinox

[kind osprey]

That render looks horrendous

It looks like a Kia with a Chevy badge

That design just does not fit the brand

[old sedge]

They're turning performance cars into e-SUV

[steel kindle]

An EV SUV called a Camaro should be a sin

[kind osprey]

Performance suv just sounds like an oxymoron to me

[steel kindle]

It's just as wrong as Ford making a super car that competes with a McLaren called a Ford F350

[kind osprey]

The only one I'd ever consider is the Audi q8rs

It's beefy and still has practicality

It isn't a swoopy circle suv coupe

I hate those

[steel kindle]

It's not bad as the Blazer SS, GMC Typhoon, and others exist but still

[kind osprey]

The rs q8 is the best suv performance for the money if you never wanna go off road with your suv

You can go offroad but the suv is probably equipped with race tires and carbon ceramic brakes

It's a pavement princess

[steel kindle]

I prefer a SUV that can offroad quite nicely but be fast if you want it to

[old sedge]

The Q8rs is not electric, right?

[kind osprey]

It's a v8

About 590 horsepower

But it can be bumped to like 640 easy

[old sedge]

I'll say a Toyota LC or a Ford Explorer

[kind osprey]

Those aren't performance suvs, those are just good regular suvs

I think the explorer has a sporty version

[steel kindle]

But extremely expensive for what it is

[kind osprey]

It's not

It's the cheapest of its chassis

[old sedge]

For me, I wouldn't off-road a Range Rover because it's too expensive

[steel kindle]

6 figures but there's faster for 5 digits

[kind osprey]

Every other AG car on the rs chassic is $100,000-$200,000 more than the rs q8

Bentley, Porsche, Lamborghini etc

[steel kindle]

I'm talking about performance SUVs, not just Audis

[kind osprey]

They are all the same chassis as the rs q8

[old sedge]

I'm really tempted to buy an MG car because it's British. When did British cars let people down?

[vestal garnet]

For me, I wouldn't off-road a Range Rover because it will brake down in between

[steel kindle]

Like Durango SRT Hellcat

[kind osprey]

The durango is a hippo

Straight line only

[steel kindle]

A 700+ horsepower hippo

[vestal garnet]

Chinese

[steel kindle]

But Durango can turn

[kind osprey]

It's heavy and it is made cheaply

I'd rather have a trackhawk out of the two

[steel kindle]

That's a common misconception about dodges, they can turn nicely

[steel kindle]

That's still cheaper than the Audi

And those can offroad

[kind osprey]

There's a lot of reasons for that

[old sedge]

Next time I buy a car, I'll buy a Ford Explorer for off-road and reliability

And affordability

[vestal garnet]

Or Fortuner

[kind osprey]

The trackhawk doesn't come with luxury interior quality, carbon ceramic brakes, lighter chassic etc.

The dodge and jeeps are cheap for a reason

They are great value with big engines

[steel kindle]

And? They're reliable, nice, and fast... you don't buy a performance SUV for luxury, you buy it for speed

[kind osprey]

RELIABLE LMAO

HAHA

[old sedge]

Jeep and Dodge are reliable?

[vestal garnet]

[kind osprey]

I'm dying

[steel kindle]

392 is

[kind osprey]

Comedy special

[old sedge]

Those are rare here

So idk

[kind osprey]

Next my Maserati will run for 100,000 miles lmao

[steel kindle]

Well I know people with over 300,000 miles on them and they find them reliable

[vestal garnet]

*range rover

[kind osprey]

Maserati's are worse than range rovers but range rovers still are shit

[old sedge]

But Ford and Chevy are the most reliable consumer car brands though

[kind osprey]

Range rovers are great to lease and get rid of

They are beautiful cars with a time bomb under the hood

[vestal garnet]

Same with Jaguar

[steel kindle]

I know a lot of people think Dodges and Jeeps are unreliable but I never met anyone with a issue with them

[kind osprey]

Yea most jaguars are flops

[steel kindle]

And I live in a area where they're very common

[kind osprey]

Everyone I know who has owned a jeep or a dodge has had some odd or random issue with them

My friends moms jeep has a transmission issue, my grand Cherokee had a piston basically spit itself out, and our wrangler literally stopped steering on the highway haha

[steel kindle]

My family work at a shop and do roadside assistance and the most common are audis, range rovers, jaguars, and Mercedes

[kind osprey]

It was a miracle we got it on the shoulder to get it towed

[steel kindle]

And when it's a Dodge or jeep, it's either a early 2000s or older

[kind osprey]

I loved the wrangler, it was a beautiful blue, but the car is objectively doo doo compared to other brands.
We bought it in 2011 when they were still decent value.

Now wranglers are overpriced as shit

[steel kindle]

That's because the 18 year old Florida girls who want a "truck"

[kind osprey]

$50,000 for a regular ass sahara

It's sad

The tires look like they belong in a Corolla

[steel kindle]

Personally I love older buicks

[kind osprey]

I never see buicks anymore they are all sold in China now

I think if it weren't for china and their obsession for big luxury minivans buick would be killed off like Holden

There is one old buick I really like

Idk the name

It's this very obscure one that looks like a very normal car but has a really wacky interior screen

[steel kindle]

Riviera

1980s