transportation

[dull folio]

@hybrid charm Are these popular in Japan?

[hybrid charm]

S660?

Yeah

Some tuning firms like SS-works and PHASE modify them for track events

Really quick cars actually because they weigh next to nothing

[uncut saddle]

kinda like it

might even want one but I think my length will be an issue

[dull folio]

I want one so bad

Wish they sold them in EU

[hybrid charm]

Pretty cool Eunos/MX-5 alternative

[dull folio]

I would love to try driving one, It feels like its the same philosophy as the MX-5, having fun even in the speed limit

[hybrid charm]

Quite a quick car even if it only has a 660 cc engine

Quicker than a Torneo to 45 but after that it's pretty much in the dust

[dull folio]

I want to buy a lightweight 2 seater, but there are close to no option

I'm not overpaying for a NA/NB miata, had a NC2, NDs are still out of my price range, W30 MR2s now cost for some reason 15k

and 2nd Elise also skyrocketed in price in the past few years

[hybrid charm]

I came into ownership of an FTO for a short while, you can pick up an AT/GPX for quite cheap now

Pretty fun 2-seater sports coupe

2.0L V6 w/ Mivec if you opt for the GR which is a bit more pricey

The GPV-R is the best of the best but it's pretty much out-of-reach nowadays from a cost perspective

20-25k for a nice one

[dull folio]

FTOs are cheap in Japan maybe, definitely not in Europe

and if i wanted to import one, its like 5-7k for transport and paperwork

[hybrid charm]

Yeah definitely wouldn't recommend that unless you're able to pick one up for less than 3k

Can only get an AT for that threshold and those early autos are really sluggish

[dull folio]

Yeah no way in hell i'm buying a slushbox

Never owned an auto and never will

[hybrid charm]

MX-3/Lantis/323 are cheap here too but I dunno about elsewhere

The BG GT I mean not the later 323F

Though it's a 4-door

[dull folio]

They all succumbed to rust over here

Haven't seen one in ages

[hybrid charm]

[dull folio]

I guess ill stick to dreaming about owning a 996 in the far future

[steel kindle]

I just want a fiero

Yeah the first Fieros were problematic and underwhelming but the last year GT fixed all of em and made it a lot more fun

And it's a mid engined car that doesn't look midengine

[kind osprey]

I'm not a fan of the gt. I love the 1988 Formula's all the 88's are fine 84-87 are the bad ones that I would avoid.

The gt kinda looks fat and puffy, the regular Formula reminds me of an mr2 and is just a nice straight to the point design

[steel kindle]

Yeah like I said final year it was fixed

I like the Fiero alone tbh

[kind osprey]

This is similar to the one I had it had the wing but it had different rims they weren't black

It gives off the mr2 and f348 vibe and i love that type of small sports car styling

I would kill to have a fiero again because I didn't have a license when i owned it so I never got to drive it much

They got a bit expensive but the ones I see for sale have low miles and are in good condition at least

[steel kindle]

Yeah... and honestly I'd build it up to be quite fast...

I'd probably coyote swap it tbh

I know, I know... the most mid swap imaginable but still...

[white mango]

I need gta to add a mclaren 765lt

[kind osprey]

a lot of people LS swap them so there may be some aftermarket guidance on that front

a v8 in that thing must be crazy, you lose the trunk space in the back but yea it'll zoom after that

[steel kindle]

Trunks are overrated anyway

[kind osprey]

xD

[steel kindle]

We made the Focus into a monster though so it's not something foreign

[opal forum]

Omg, the car from el camino!

[kind osprey]

Haha

[unreal crag]

What a nice escalade

[glossy torrent]

(Oppressor mark I-II idea)
You know when you go to a public lobby and there is that one guy with a oppressor mark II that blows you up… Well what if it didn’t lock on you until you killed that guy? This way we don’t have to wait 5 minutes, and please ban those 9 year old kids who scream “give me back my car” “stop killing me” like they are louder than asmr video on 2 times the volume!

(I’m texting here because I don’t have access to mark 2 channel)

[glossy torrent]

I send feedback to the official website

I thought no one would see it here

[main shale]

is there a sheriff car u can buy?

bc this guy has 1 and idk if he modded it or not it has a different siren sound

[severe citrus]

are those aftermarket taillights becaues the looks like a older verion

[haughty wadi]

PC moment

[haughty wadi]

No

[unreal crag]

I swear those are just stolen from a new escalade or something

[severe citrus]

i agreee

[steel kindle]

@misty kiln

[misty kiln]

Nicee

shiny bumper

[steel kindle]

She's one hell of a project but a extremely difficult one

Think like this

It was a small company and made the fewest engines in the 1960s with only one year like this

And they've been out of business for god knows how long

You'll have more luck finding a Chevy S10 EV battery

[dull folio]

"The results of the Turbo Study. 
Carbon fiber bodywork in Wolf Blue. 
The iconic Whale Tail rear spoiler reimagined. 
Powered by a 3.8L, twin-turbocharged, air-cooled flat six. "

• Singer Vehicle Design

[uncut saddle]

[timid pond]

Please sumbody help me I can not get into bennys cuz lamar hasn't called me and the LD logo I'd not on my map this is a moded account I got its a 1117 level

[dull folio]

#gta-questions

[jagged sentinel]

https://www.instagram.com/p/Co5c7PTtdzi/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=

mercedesbenz

PROJECT MONDO G merges the angular design of the off-road vehicle with the soft, flowing lines of the quilted textile of

Photography:

Likes

19383

Instagram

Wtf💀

[gray karma]

That's one weird looking car

[dull folio]

what a terrible day to have eyes

[gray karma]

Bahaha

[kind osprey]

rappers wet dream

[jagged sentinel]

https://carbuzz.com/news/bugatti-koenigsegg-and-pagani-will-be-exempt-from-eus-2035-co2-ban?utm_medium=amp_stories&utm_source=amp_stories_intext&utm_campaign=115272&_gl=1*49sccu*_ga*cTI4ZS11VjF0YkJiN3VGMW1EYkZwYmEtTGh0YWo4TTlFRGQwOFZTeDJScGk0WW1PMTFqVWI4RGhzblg5Y2ZzbQ..

@kind osprey

You're going to fucking love this

[kind osprey]

LETS

FUCKING

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[jagged sentinel]

I knew it

Real talk though that's an absolutely huge sigh of relief

Now if only California were to reciprocate this decision...

(that's never happening)

[mint plank]

@kind osprey what

how

bugatti is part of vw

how is bugatti exempt but lambo isnt

just

what

[kind osprey]

Lamborghini makes over like 10,000 cars a year now

they may get exceptions for special models hopefully

[mint plank]

they fucken better

[mint plank]

yeah because bugatti really fell out of fashion

either way, how many people that own lambos actually daily drive them

i can guarantee you it's like

less than 5%

so stupid

[vestal garnet]

Probably even less

[mint plank]

yeah honestly

[kind osprey]

Excluding the Audi q8 rs with a bodykit, there are probably about 60 Lamborghini's in my borough or about like a 7-8 mile radius

60 real ones like huracan/aventador

That may be pushing it low

but that is my guess

[mint plank]

it's just stupid

and the thing is

high performance cars like this are often way cleaner than regular commuter cars because the engines are tuned to the point of eeking out everything possible

and thus they run 'fairly' clean

add in efuels and it's like

almost nothing

[proven vine]

a guy in america won a huracan or something, drove it into a frozen lake on the way back and made local headlines kek

https://www.drive.com.au/news/man-wins-lamborghini-crashes-it-six-hours-later/

[mint plank]

pain

just pain

[thin elm]

Huh

A truck driver? I expected those people to be very good drivers

[jagged sentinel]

Driving an 80,000lb truck and driving a supercar are quite different

[thin elm]

Well yes the supercar is supposed to be easier

[jagged sentinel]

Most people probably aren't used to how supercars drive

And the mercí was made before Lamborghinis were tamed

So it still has the will-try-and-kill-you-if-you-drive-it-wrong capabilities

Plus apparently the icy conditions and rubber-band tires did not mix well

Who would have thought

[kind osprey]

Cars like Ferraris and Lamborghini's produce a lot more emissions and have shit fuel economy like mile per gallon etc.

But the thing nobody understands

Is that these types of cars only get driven on average 2000-3000 miles a year

And there are so few of them in existence

So in a broad overview they aren't even a noticeable pollution factor

[jagged sentinel]

The Bugatti Chiron gets 13 mph highway 💀

[kind osprey]

I'm shocked it is that high

xD

[jagged sentinel]

It gets 8 city

I wonder if it has start/stop

[kind osprey]

The murcielago was made after the audi acquisition so the truck driver was probably just a reckless idiot

Diablo's are the last scary scary Lamborghini

[jagged sentinel]

Clarkson made it a point that it would still try and kill you

Maybe not as harshly as the Diablo but it still had a bit of it

[kind osprey]

It's also awd so that can be a blessing or a curse depending on the situation

[jagged sentinel]

I'm curious if it was the first or second version

Cuz I believe the Merci got somewhat of a refresh at some point during it's lifespan

[kind osprey]

Yea they all do since they run production for so long

Idk the exact year

But there are noticeable differences from a 2002 compared to a 2010

[dull folio]

pre-face models were pretty harsh, the awd system got fixed in the later model

[mint plank]

https://www.whichcar.com.au/news/vale-ken-warby-the-fastest-man-on-water-for-over-40-years

@kind osprey

Speaking of speed though

https://aussieinvader.com/

My grandpa

thousand miles an hour

IN A ROCKET ON WHEELS CAR

Ignore the fact it literally is a rocket on wheels

@jagged sentinel 👀

[jagged sentinel]

@mint plank 👀

[mint plank]

See above

I've seen the 'car' in person at multiple motorshows

It's so fucken cool

Idk what it is but Australians love to go fast lmfao

[gray karma]

haha I love motorshows and drag racing

and car meets

[mint plank]

This is beyond drag racing

This is the land speed record

The holy grail

[gray karma]

i know its faster hehe

my car is track worthy fun little car

[dull folio]

what car u got?

[gray karma]

hyundai i20N

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9i-NLZaGLk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZWMiHYD6_Y

[dull folio]

I didnt even know the i20 had an N model

[gray karma]

theirs a i20N WRC car

[gloomy helm]

😭😭

[dull folio]

I'm not really a Hyundai fan tbh, seen the i30 N plenty of times though

[gray karma]

its a fun corner rascal

[steel kindle]

@jagged sentinel it's a bomber interceptor

[jagged sentinel]

Yes, I can read

I misinterpreted what "interceptor" meant

[steel kindle]

Ah ok

[jagged sentinel]

I was under the impression interceptors were for long-range interceptions A La Tomcat or Phantom

Or MiG 31

MiG 31, not 29

[steel kindle]

Nah, that's for modern times, back then most were relatively short range

[jagged sentinel]

I feel like the 262 would better fit the role of a long-range interceptor

[steel kindle]

Most planes didn't have much fuel, kinda why the YB-40 existed

[jagged sentinel]

Assuming the range was all that

[tulip parcel]

YF-23 is the better plane

[steel kindle]

YB-40 was one hell of a plane

[tulip parcel]

More economical

And a better version of the YB-40

[steel kindle]

Yeah a modern jet is better than a WWII gunship

[tulip parcel]

Nothing beats the B series bombers

[steel kindle]

It's like saying a mustang is better than a Ford Model T

[jagged sentinel]

You're comparing a borderline future Stealth fighter prototype to a bomber gunship from the 40s

[steel kindle]

Better example, a nuclear submarine to a canoe

[jagged sentinel]

Or a light machine gun to a rock

Hell, a V6 turbo hybrid F1 car to a Big Block Chevelle

[steel kindle]

I remember the "rock shooter", the B-25H with the T-13 75mm cannon

[mint plank]

262 wasn't an interceptor
Interceptors are designed for scrambles, 262 was designed for CAP and CAS (Fighter-bomber)

[tulip parcel]

Hear me out for a second what if we still had the B series bombers in today’s world

[mint plank]

Modern interceptor? F-15
https://youtu.be/UaIKxCSsDp0

[jagged sentinel]

Obsolete

[steel kindle]

They would be torn to shreds

[mint plank]

We.... do?

[tulip parcel]

And that gunship was the shit if was a senior pilot and was allowed to name her

[mint plank]

B-52, B-1, B-2, B-21

All 'bombers'

[tulip parcel]

They are vintage and antiques. Some are somewhat flyable

[steel kindle]

Old 20mm rounds would shred them, now modern 20 and 30mm HEPF rounds will disintegrate them

[mint plank]

@tulip parcel wut

[jagged sentinel]

The "B" in a name is a classification

[tulip parcel]

I mean the grandpas of the group

[mint plank]

^

[jagged sentinel]

"B" indicates Bomber

[steel kindle]

Yeah

[mint plank]

B-52 first flew in the 50s, and it's gonna be flying til at least the 50s
2050^

[tulip parcel]

The more you know

[jagged sentinel]

C for cargo
F for fighter
A for Attack (ground attack, Close Air support)
Y for prototype

[steel kindle]

Chinook is almost as old

[tulip parcel]

I wanna see grandpa B-52 in action

Once more

[tulip parcel]

Nahh we just have to give them some 2023 love and care

[jagged sentinel]

E is for electronic warfare or something

[mint plank]

Just like F means fighter, A means attack, Y is prototype, X is experimental, R is recon (interchangeable with U)

E is AWACS/EW

[jagged sentinel]

Close enough

[tulip parcel]

They won’t as long as we believe 🤣

[mint plank]

And C is cargo

[jagged sentinel]

.

[mint plank]

And K is air tanker

[steel kindle]

Only one I found odd

I thought they might do T for it, never understood K

[tulip parcel]

Okay boys here’s a question if you had enough money to buy one unarmed 5th gen fighter what would you get and why

[jagged sentinel]

F35

Purely because of parts availability

[steel kindle]

I'd get WWII aircrafts, much cheaper and not really too much of a fan of new fighter looks compared to old planes

[tulip parcel]

I’ll say the SU-57 because I want to experience a new jet and have a plane that nobody else does in the states. Fly at my own rate

[tulip parcel]

You’re right but if you want a fully functioning World War II plane it’s gonna cost you like 1 million -2 million

[steel kindle]

Get the Chinese copy of the F-35 😎

[steel kindle]

Dude, that's pennies to a 5th generation fighter

[tulip parcel]

I would say that America’s fifth GEN fighter is all right and after that whole balloon debacle, two weeks ago, it does do well with non-targets but again and he playing that is overhyped is dusted to failure, if not tested on the Battlefield and not in the movies

[jagged sentinel]

We have 2

[tulip parcel]

Not the Chinese copy the Russian option

At the end of the day with the Russian fifth GEN fighter even though it’s unarmed I want to keep the stealth attachments so I could be left alone in peace

[tulip parcel]

We have two of their planes in America

[jagged sentinel]

We have 2 5th gen fighters

[steel kindle]

Bruh, if you fly a 5th gen Russian fighter, you'll be shot down the second anyone sees you

[jagged sentinel]

Well we have a few hundred but we have 2 different 5th gen fighter designs

[steel kindle]

If you're over the U.S at least

[tulip parcel]

It really is pennies when you think about it because I would honestly get a plane from the graveyard and work from there

[jagged sentinel]

Unless you can somehow get an IFF signature that doesn't translate to "death sentence"

[tulip parcel]

That’s it?! Just two? Now 1,000?

[steel kindle]

A 5th generation fighter is 79 million USD while WWII aircrafts are in the 4 million range

[tulip parcel]

I would just change the call sign and the planes color scheme. Therefore I wouldn’t be seen as the enemy.

[jagged sentinel]

@tulip parcel see this message

[steel kindle]

You'll lose the stealth tech then as the paint is specially designed to avoid radar

[jagged sentinel]

Doesn't change the silhouette of the aircraft

[tulip parcel]

So we can say that the World War II aircraft is the Ford focus of the plane world and the fifth GEN fighter is the Lamborghini option

[jagged sentinel]

More like the Koenigsegg option

[tulip parcel]

Oh okay I see it now

[jagged sentinel]

Or pagani

A "Lamborghini option" would be a 4.5 gen fighter

[tulip parcel]

Then put a wrap over it and keep the paint under it

[tulip parcel]

Indeed

[steel kindle]

Yeah but WWII aircrafts sound so damn good! It's like a 1969 Plymouth roadrunner with a 440 magnum compared to a McLaren Sienna

[steel kindle]

Wrap won't work

[tulip parcel]

It doesn’t, but when you get a foreign aircraft, that is the newest generation or the youngest generation to retire, you have to look as friendly as you can possible in America or another country. Therefore, you’re not shut down.

[tulip parcel]

And the road runner is a much better option

[steel kindle]

You can't just cover stealth paint and think it'll remain stealth

[tulip parcel]

Damn well I work with what I got and make sure the FCC leaves me alone lol

[tulip parcel]

It would ruin the special paint under it

[jagged sentinel]

Approaching US soil in a highly classified, rare aircraft developed by a country in tense standings like the SU-57 is going to make A LOT of people very nervous

[steel kindle]

Its way more complicated than that, you're flying a military aircraft in a foreign nation, even if the callsign is changed, when they see a Sukoi in a country where they shouldn't be and not on U.S military comms, they'll gun you down... it's a national security risk

[tulip parcel]

But it would make a lot of people interested in the arms market and the intelligence in the military because the first thing they want to do once seeing this aircraft on land in America is to research it even more and find more weaknesses. They will pay top dollar just to have the plane alone.

[tulip parcel]

Sheesh so keep this beautiful girl in a hanger then while I sort it out

[steel kindle]

Pretty much, she'll have to be a hangar queen or get permission and be on civilian-military comms so they know you're a civilian

[jagged sentinel]

That's assuming they already know what the fuck the deal is with an SU-57 with an unknown paint scheme flying over US soil

[tulip parcel]

Most planes like 1/ fifth GEN including the six GEN fighters around the corner are going to be gold mine for any country if you can bring them one in full condition with no issues. They will happily pay you as much as you want for the plane and go to work

[tulip parcel]

And there’s more because at the end of the day, they would have to fly with me to make sure I’m not shot down by someone with a trigger finger

[jagged sentinel]

If they shoot you down because of a "trigger finger" they'd get in trouble

[tulip parcel]

The thing is that they have five Sue 57s in Russia or 10 as I heard about it so them losing one of them is very bad and when this plane was seen at the last arms convention made a lot of people want this aircraft and still do

[steel kindle]

They'd more likely fly with you to make sure you're not a threat and have military personnel check the plane when it lands

[jagged sentinel]

Turning a fighter jet into a meteor comes with its own set of risks

[jagged sentinel]

And you

[tulip parcel]

Here’s the funny thing if I decide to land at an airport with the plane, I’ll be left alone in peace

[jagged sentinel]

Lmao

[tulip parcel]

Like a driving instructor but I have to call them in advance just to leave

[tulip parcel]

Agreed

[jagged sentinel]

Like you said yourself the government would love to get their incompetent little hands all over that craft

[tulip parcel]

You and I both know that any airline that sees this plane right next to them will not bother at all

Agreed and they will pay you or me as much money as we could think of or any amount of zeros that can fit onto a paper check just to get the aircraft

[jagged sentinel]

The fuck are they supposed to do? Brake check you?

[tulip parcel]

I think if I had this plane and I wanted to sell it to them my asking price would be $150 million

[steel kindle]

cuts you off mid flight

[tulip parcel]

That’s the last thing they want to do knowing my plane has hidden weapons inside of it

[jagged sentinel]

That was rhetorical statement

[tulip parcel]

Yeah, the plane cut you off midflight and then you start terrorizing it with your acrobatic fifth GEN fighter

[jagged sentinel]

Threatening airlines now are we?

[steel kindle]

Make like the movie Air Force One and steal the plane mid flight 😎

[jagged sentinel]

That's a one-stop-shop to making you and your craft an enemy of the state

[tulip parcel]

But let’s be real here the US has a lot going for F 15 fighter because it’s not really stealthy it’s more of a heavy, handed boxer, and the shoe 57 is Russia’s version of a Muaythai warrior

[jagged sentinel]

It's a 4.5 gen fighter

[tulip parcel]

One is acrobatic and one is heavy handed

[jagged sentinel]

We have quite a few of those

[tulip parcel]

Oh yeah my apologies

[tulip parcel]

Thing is you don’t really have to threaten airline with weapons just scared the life out of them with random maneuvers and that’s enough

[jagged sentinel]

One is a multirole, one is an Air Superiority fighter with thrust vectoring and a bunch of other stuff

[steel kindle]

F16 better because number higher 😎

[tulip parcel]

Listen, we’re not Vin Diesel

[jagged sentinel]

So we're endangering them? How's that any different?

[tulip parcel]

The F 16 verses to Sue 57 we’re not talking about simulations why’s the two planes would do well in a fight against each other

[tulip parcel]

OK so instead of doing maneuvers, just wave them by going side to side

[steel kindle]

Now the real question, rocket cessna versus F-35 😎

[tulip parcel]

Agreed and you know I want to see if a billionaire can buy both planes go through that horrific process

[tulip parcel]

No, here’s a better one put a Rolls-Royce V 12 engine inside of a Cessna versus an F 35

[jagged sentinel]

Good luck buying an SU-57 lol

[tulip parcel]

You know, these billionaires have connections to get that plane

It’s a simple phone call and throwing of money to get it

[jagged sentinel]

And then the government shuts you down

[tulip parcel]

Hell, even the military would happily give you their fifth GEN fighter as long as they keep their mouth shut as do you

[steel kindle]

Steal it, I steal jets all the time at Fort Zancudo 😎

[jagged sentinel]

Because it's a largely classified project

[tulip parcel]

That’s a thing you’re a billionaire you have no limits towards keeping it hush-hush about your new plane

[jagged sentinel]

That I highly doubt they'd just let a random civilian get their hands kn

[tulip parcel]

Agreed

[tulip parcel]

A random civilian that they do business with from their bank

[jagged sentinel]

A civilian is a civilian

[tulip parcel]

Except a private civilian

Us normal people don’t have that amount of rights like a private civilian does

[steel kindle]

Wrong, when you know too much, a civilian is a unarmed combatant

[jagged sentinel]

A civilian is a civilian

[tulip parcel]

Agreed like if you were an undercover billionaire and you are normal civilian then the military finds out you’re so screwed

[jagged sentinel]

What I mean by that is they become a liability as soon as they're given access to classified info

There's a reason we banned the sale of the F-22 to... Anyone but ourselves, really

[tulip parcel]

The thing is that billionaires are private citizens, and I mean very private citizens so most military don’t mind handing over classified info as long as they can. Trust you to not say a damn word, nor use it for any opposite country.

[jagged sentinel]

Source

[steel kindle]

Must put the civilian down before you they kill you, the firing squad fears for their life

[tulip parcel]

And that’s the fun part we can buy it for ourselves so that means your best friend in that other city in America can happily buy himself a new fifth GEN fighter and fly it around

[jagged sentinel]

Point being the government isn't dumb enough to let a civilian get access to classified info

[jagged sentinel]

The F-22 is getting phased out

[tulip parcel]

Look at the world we live in like there is one billionaire that won’t tell you that they have bought a military aircraft that is fully armed to the teeth and hasn’t cut corners to make it happen

[tulip parcel]

Who will take its place?

[jagged sentinel]

The F-35

Or a 6th gen fighter

[steel kindle]

Well ofc they won't, and I know how strict it is, I work at Boeing and they're up my ass about anything that has internet, even a smart watch

[jagged sentinel]

Makes sense

[tulip parcel]

To be honest, I don’t think the six GEN fighters are ready yet from either country, including us like a lot more needs to be done to perfect that kind of machine before even selling it

[tulip parcel]

Except Donald trump

[jagged sentinel]

A civilian is a civilian

[steel kindle]

And I don't even work on anything but the Chinook and the V-22

[jagged sentinel]

It
Does
Not
Matter
How
Much
Money
They
Have

[tulip parcel]

Imagine you worked at Lockheed Martin because what Boeing is doing to you right now will make Lockheed Martin look nice

[tulip parcel]

I’m not saying that I’m using our previous present as an example

[steel kindle]

Lockheed are a bunch of pricks

[tulip parcel]

I didn’t buy anything out, but had access to mountains of classified info

[jagged sentinel]

They become a liability the second they learn information they aren't supposed to know

[tulip parcel]

What about skunk Works?

[steel kindle]

Totally not because I'm biased btw

[tulip parcel]

Oh, so like the area 51 thing

But 10 times worse

[jagged sentinel]

Manhattan project

[tulip parcel]

Bro, it’s skunk works like any engineer anybody in the aircraft world would die to get a chance to work at skunk Works

[tulip parcel]

Oh yeah, that’s Hella secret

[jagged sentinel]

Doesn't mean the people there are nice

[jagged sentinel]

Not nearly as much as it used to be

[steel kindle]

Also there is many things that are still secret but not classified, I told @jagged sentinel about the Model 2500 GEM

[tulip parcel]

Of course, they are nice like those are very professional, men and women that don’t have time to do office parties in such because they’re working on aircraft are so sensitive that you can’t even talk nor mention of it

[steel kindle]

And s/he knew nothing about it

[jagged sentinel]

I believe the Manhattan project is largely declassified by this point

[tulip parcel]

What do you mean like who knows the secret of the Manhattan project how in the hell are they still alive?

[jagged sentinel]

But at the time very few people who participated in the Manhattan project knew what they were making

[steel kindle]

Most is but people don't bother looking into it

[tulip parcel]

You mean that model?

[jagged sentinel]

No, as in the government has largely declassified it

[tulip parcel]

Because they think little of it, or it’s just a project that needs to be shown to keep the public away

Like we know very well that there is seventh to eighth GEN fighters that are already in the testing face but we just don’t know about it

[jagged sentinel]

I don't really see a point in keeping it a secret anymore

[tulip parcel]

Indeed

[jagged sentinel]

Considering how many countries have nukes

[steel kindle]

People don't really know we had "flying cars", it was classified for a long ass time

[jagged sentinel]

And the Manhattan wasn't even the most expensive project we conjured up

[tulip parcel]

Yeah, nobody knows and the government wants to keep it. That way there for people can still watch it in movies and keep it on a idea bored.

[tulip parcel]

And the fact is that no countries playing around anymore

[steel kindle]

It was declassified in 1992 and I even have all the specs for it saved on my phone, people just don't know about it

[tulip parcel]

Oh wow and since you have it, I have a suggestion for you

Change the power source to plasma energy

[jagged sentinel]

...

[tulip parcel]

It’s more resourceful

[jagged sentinel]

How do you expect him to go about doing that

[tulip parcel]

You know you’re surrounded by plasma, energy, right? It doesn’t have to simply come from a thunderstorm that you see it’s free energy. You can sit in your house and make it happen with a small science project that you bought from Walmart.

No getting plaza is one thing, but maintaining it in a controlled vacuum is another

[steel kindle]

We know that but how am I supposed to redesign two outdated plane engines to plasma energy

[jagged sentinel]

Do we even have the know-how to create a propulsion system that uses plasma energy? And make it cost-effective?

[tulip parcel]

Take your time at the end of the day obtaining the source of energy is not the problem, but keeping it in a well maintained temperature state therefore the engine doesn’t blow up is the main question

[steel kindle]

Fuck, I am gonna redesign a Boeing 747 to be wind powered 💀

[tulip parcel]

We do, but we can’t mine it because it’s too far down

[jagged sentinel]

You act like this shit can be done in an afternoon

[tulip parcel]

And afternoon of 10 years of hard work

[steel kindle]

And like I'm smart enough to do it 💀

[tulip parcel]

The thing is that it can be done, but you need the right materials for the full succession

[jagged sentinel]

And the knowledge
And the time
And the money
And the manpower

[steel kindle]

And parts

[jagged sentinel]

That too

[steel kindle]

Also to find one of these

[tulip parcel]

You are smart enough like hell you work at Boeing for godsake

[jagged sentinel]

Bro

[tulip parcel]

Start small work your way up

[jagged sentinel]

It's Boeing, not fucking skunk works

[tulip parcel]

Test out which material would work the best and then use it

[tulip parcel]

I thought bowling was a Ferrari of the plane world

[steel kindle]

I operate the machinery to make the carbon fibre panels and work on the engines, I can't redesign a fucking 70 year old engine to run on plasma

[jagged sentinel]

They're like the Ford or General motors

[tulip parcel]

Ohhhh so you are the connection for the suppling of it all

[mint plank]

also, just putting it out there, stop calling the su-57 and j-20 stealth

they're not

[tulip parcel]

Indeed

[tulip parcel]

It’s still a multi role

[mint plank]

they both have larger RCS than the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet, which is a RCS reduced aircraft and '4th gen'

[tulip parcel]

The stealth is still there

[mint plank]

the su57 according to THE RUSSIAN MILITARY

is not stealth

[steel kindle]

Oh I know they're not stealth but was earlier saying that painting or wrapping over stealth paint would fuck it over

[mint plank]

Low observable and stealth aren't the same

[tulip parcel]

Don’t believe everything that you hear

Anybody can lie to you with simple words

[jagged sentinel]

Doesn't the F-15EX have some sort of low observability tech

[mint plank]

yeah no, i belive the radar returns

[mint plank]

Yeah, similar to the super hornet

Reduced RCS

[tulip parcel]

Do you also believe that they are just trying to make sure it doesn’t come up on radar

They say one thing, but they don’t want that plane to be seen at all during combat

[jagged sentinel]

That's literally what low observability aims to do lmfao

[mint plank]

you really have no idea how stealth works do you

[mint plank]

^^^^

[tulip parcel]

I Actually, do

[jagged sentinel]

Really now

[steel kindle]

The blip goes off my minimap 😎

[tulip parcel]

Lmao

[tulip parcel]

GTA 5 target sound effect

[mint plank]

Low observable and stealth aren't designed to make planes invisible. They're designed to reduce the distance to which an aircraft can be seen, not make them entirely invisible

[mint plank]

Okay. Simple question. is the RCS of a stealth aircraft a constant figure.

[jagged sentinel]

Isn't it technically impossible for a plane to have no RCS

[tulip parcel]

Stealth 101, but you and I know there’s more to the describing of stealth than what you’re saying now

[mint plank]

yes.

[tulip parcel]

A complex statement to

[mint plank]

@tulip parcel

[steel kindle]

Also it incorporates radar-absorbing materials into its construction, and these materials, which can be applied as coatings or incorporated into the aircraft's structure, absorb radar energy and prevent it from being reflected back to the radar receiver

[tulip parcel]

For now

[jagged sentinel]

No, it's impossible

[mint plank]

it's a simple question. Yes or no.

lmfao

[tulip parcel]

For us in this century, not for anybody else in the future like hell, RCS will be gone one century but yet we will still have it

[jagged sentinel]

💀

As long as radar exists RCS will exist lol

[tulip parcel]

Lol agreed

[mint plank]

it is 100% impossible. Even aircraft that are invisible to the eye will still have radar returns

[steel kindle]

I'll go uninvent it 😎

[tulip parcel]

I’ll go into the future and bring the device to show it then lol

[mint plank]

are you gonna answer the question or keep dodging it

[tulip parcel]

Go and back to the future huh

[tulip parcel]

No

[steel kindle]

There's no such thing as complete stealth, if a radar is powerful enough or is close enough, it can detect the best stealth plane

[mint plank]

Exactly. and that disproves your 'no RCS aircraft' theory

because a RCS isn't a constant figure

The f-22 has a higher radar return from the sides and rear than it does the front, just like every other stealth aircraft

[tulip parcel]

For me, but trust me, you know someone’s going to bring back up this topic one day

[tulip parcel]

Because they stuff everything in the front of that goddamn nose

[mint plank]

and the F-22 is designed to counter short range high wave air defence radars. Not OHR LW radars like JORN.
JORN has been used to test the f-22 and f-35, and it's spotted it from thousands of miles out

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jindalee_Operational_Radar_Network

[tulip parcel]

Lemme just hop 2099 and see what’s up lol

[jagged sentinel]

I mean until we can find a way for radar waves to pass straight through aircraft like it isn't there, RCS is going to exist

[tulip parcel]

Thank you for the link information about the end of the day. You’re right as a my, and I have my wrongs too, but in the end everything is built and made to surpass the previous generation which means this radar system that you’re speaking of and we both know of may be ideal in today’s time, but in the future, it will be turned away for something new and better

[tulip parcel]

Indeed

[mint plank]

Yknow, the RAAF says the range of JORN is '1000 to 3300km' meanwhile they've released radar pictures of the J-20 taking off IN CHINA. if they're gonna undervalue it's range, the least they could do is try to stick to it lmfao @jagged sentinel

[tulip parcel]

May our future grandchildren make it happen

[tulip parcel]

Agreed lmao

[jagged sentinel]

Assuming the countries with nukes don't reduce us to sticks and stones

[steel kindle]

Exactly, and making it literally invisible will still reflect radar waves, you can null it a lot and it'll be off radar from a long distance away or with a weaker radar but you can always overwhelm it with a stronger radar and also if it's close enough

[tulip parcel]

Hope the grandpa who is in charge right now does it force them to?

[mint plank]

like, speaking of astronomically powerful radars, JORN is also a maritime search radar, and it was used to spot suspected pieces of debris when MH370 went down.
Like fucken floating parts of an aircraft thousands of miles away

like

wtf lmao @jagged sentinel

[jagged sentinel]

Shit's wild

[mint plank]

JORN is so sensitive it is able to track planes as small as a Cessna 172 taking off and landing in East Timor 2600 km away. Current research is anticipated to increase its sensitivity by a factor of ten beyond this level.

[steel kindle]

It's on fucking crack

[mint plank]

LITERALLY

[jagged sentinel]

Helps when you're surrounded by nothing but ocean

[mint plank]

like, there's a reason the US uses JORN to test their stealth aircraft

[steel kindle]

Well yeah but still that fucker is mighty

[jagged sentinel]

Absolutely

[steel kindle]

Curious if they're going to see if they can make it more powerful

[tulip parcel]

Hey @mint plank is it possible to turn the Cessna into a fifth GEN fighter?👀

[steel kindle]

💀

[tulip parcel]

Same body frame but more deadly 👀

[tulip parcel]

With carbon fiber

[gloomy helm]

"the" Cessna?

Didn't Cessna used to make fighter jets 💜💜💜💪

[tulip parcel]

Yeah the trainer plane,the first buy after getting your pilots license

[tulip parcel]

Yeah, but they became family friendly to build their reliable playing that everyone gets in today’s world for a good price

[jagged sentinel]

The fuck kind of question is that

[steel kindle]

Closest you'll get is the L3Harris Technologies’ AT-802U Sky Warden and I guess you can try bit that's stupid in every way

[tulip parcel]

It’s a good what if question 🤣

I can see the plane be given side, winder missiles, and armed to the teeth

[tulip parcel]

Hey, someone had an idea and made it happen

[jagged sentinel]

Externally mounted weaponry compromises RCS anyway, no?

[tulip parcel]

Yeah

[tulip parcel]

I meant the 172 variant

[steel kindle]

The AT-6E Wolverine is another prop plane but meant for CAS

[steel kindle]

That would be worse than stupid

It'll be shot down by any SPAA

and it's slow enough they don't need to radar guide it

[tulip parcel]

Just give it a fifth GEN engine and it will be all right

No propeller just propulsion

[steel kindle]

If you mean a powerful engine, the body will rip itself apart

[tulip parcel]

It’s a stupid idea that can happen one day

[tulip parcel]

Change the material to suit the engine therefore it doesn’t break apart in flight

[jagged sentinel]

💀

[steel kindle]

It's not aerodynamic enough

Needs to be completely redesigned

[jagged sentinel]

Probably not stiff enough either

[tulip parcel]

So just go full Tony Stark on it

[steel kindle]

Not good enough also

[tulip parcel]

Lmao

[steel kindle]

Or just make a whole new plane

[tulip parcel]

I’m really cracking up right now

[jagged sentinel]

A tremendous amount of chassis reinforcement would be needed for a jet engine to not rip a Cessna chassis to shreds

[tulip parcel]

No, I want to Iron Man this plane 🤣🤣

And play Tony Stark’s theme in the background

[steel kindle]

And also reinforced wings to hold weapons, also new body because too much drag

[tulip parcel]

Yes, let’s put tungsten in it

[tulip parcel]

So, as we are all speaking up on it, this can happen for the plane it just needs to be remade in the same design with newer parts and materials

This is the kind of playing I would like to see in a military variant, and how far it would go

[steel kindle]

The design wouldn't be able to handle it, it was made to go slow and hold people, that's it

[tulip parcel]

So it’s basically the sedan of the air

But here I am wanting to do an engine swap to go faster and deadlier

The term you can’t fix stupid will be so heavy if somebody wants to do what I was saying

[jagged sentinel]

If you dropped a hellcat motor into a Willy's jeep it would snap the driveshaft like a fucking twig

[mint plank]

They already are

[tulip parcel]

I would rather put a 69 dodge charger with a blower into the Jeep instead

[mint plank]

It's undergoing another upgrade

[jagged sentinel]

And you would get the same result

[tulip parcel]

God help us lol

[jagged sentinel]

Except the hellcat is more efficient

And also has a blower

[tulip parcel]

Oh god no lol

[jagged sentinel]

Which is kind of its defining feature

[tulip parcel]

It doesn’t look efficient when it’s girlfriend is the gas station every 20 miles

[tulip parcel]

For the 69 charger yes, not a hellcat

[jagged sentinel]

...

You know what a blower is right?

[tulip parcel]

Here’s a question have you ever thought about why nobody puts a blower on a hellcat

[jagged sentinel]

The 69 charger did not come with a blower from the factory

[tulip parcel]

It’s already powerful alone in its design, putting a blower and sucking more air in is like giving it endless nitrous

[jagged sentinel]

Because it fucking comes with one stock

[tulip parcel]

It’s ass I want the Uncle Sam version

[jagged sentinel]

[tulip parcel]

A perspective I want a bigger blower, then what is given to me in stock

I want more power

[tulip parcel]

No I didn’t but it was blessed with it as time went on

[jagged sentinel]

Not from the factory

[tulip parcel]

No, but from those who knew that car needed to have its own blower

[steel kindle]

The fuck am I reading...

[jagged sentinel]

The charger left muscle car territory in the mid-late 70s

[jagged sentinel]

No it didn't

[tulip parcel]

Just transportation talk lol

[jagged sentinel]

It took us 50 years to get 400 horsepower back into standard-edition sports cars

[tulip parcel]

But yeah, peoples to upgrading up on it which was the best thing about the car of people still wanted it

[tulip parcel]

50 years and a whole bunch of economics laws that got in the way

[jagged sentinel]

The 426s were rated at like 425 horse but all the companies back then had a habit of underrating their engines

[tulip parcel]

Here’s the thing if there was no such laws to stop the musclecar era, we would still be having those big beasts down the road in sexier variants and more power

[jagged sentinel]

That's not true

[tulip parcel]

And short, they were just talking shit

[steel kindle]

The Ford GPW/Jeep MB driveshaft can only withstand about 100 horsepower before it shatters (simple talk), the big blocks from the 60s have over 100 horsepower, a 380 horsepower V8 will do the same damage as a 707 horsepower V8...

[tulip parcel]

And pure gas light

[jagged sentinel]

Environmental regulation would have happened either way

[tulip parcel]

If only somebody could make an engine so indestructible that he could take a god-awful amount of punishment so we could have horsepower that is unobtainable

[tulip parcel]

I’m angry happened because if it wasn’t here, they would’ve been a chance

[jagged sentinel]

[tulip parcel]

If the environmental regulations didn’t come at the time they did, we would’ve had more pony cars, more muscle cars and more variance before it came to light

[steel kindle]

They do, look up the Viper engine, people build them past 3,000 horsepower

And it's mainly about taking care of them

[jagged sentinel]

The engine is what everything else is built to accommodate

If the powertrain can't handle the engine, upgrade the powertrain until it can

[tulip parcel]

No that part but I’m saying that if the engine was built of a stronger material, then we could be pushing forward upon numbers that wasn’t really obtainable with a normal engine. Crate

[jagged sentinel]

That's literally what we've been doing since forever

[tulip parcel]

I wanna see a 7,000hp viper one day

[tulip parcel]

I know, but at the end of the day, I hope to see a tungsten engine crate

[jagged sentinel]

You're not going to see that on the road

7,000 horsepower is approaching top-fuel dragster territory

[steel kindle]

To build the engine, you need to upgrade the half shafts, drive shaft, transmission, radiator, air intakes, have the car able to get downforce, thicker tires so they don't blow out, upgrade suspension, frame, and much much more

[tulip parcel]

Laws nuggets

[jagged sentinel]

What?

[tulip parcel]

Yayyy

[tulip parcel]

My auto correct is not liking me today

[steel kindle]

And those engines are single use for 20 seconds

If that

[jagged sentinel]

Right

[tulip parcel]

I wish they could be used constantly but you’re right that those engines are only use for 20 seconds

[jagged sentinel]

Maybe 30 seconds of idle, 6 seconds of burnout, and then 4 or so seconds of redline and it's toast

[steel kindle]

Hell even Nascar engines need rebuilding after every race

[jagged sentinel]

Ok but nascar engines are impressive in their own right

[steel kindle]

They are

[tulip parcel]

Hot damn

[tulip parcel]

Didn’t the strat man try to start up in NASCAR in his neighborhood?

[jagged sentinel]

8750-9000 RPM (yes, they do rev that high) for several hours

[tulip parcel]

No wonder he tried to wake up the NASCAR in his neighborhood because it’s that loud

[steel kindle]

Oh I know

I love nascar

[tulip parcel]

I love my ears

I love hearing after NASCAR race

[jagged sentinel]

And they idle, at, what, 2000?

[steel kindle]

But that also shows another issue

Tires

Look how often Nascars have to change tires

With almost no braking

[tulip parcel]

And they’re fast pit crew teams

You gotta give credit to the pit crew they train a lot just to move fast

[steel kindle]

After 30 laps they start wearing

[tulip parcel]

They ask for the soft tires at the beginning, and then go to medium

[steel kindle]

Some do but many go with the firmest mainly due to pitstops take too long even tho it's quick, racers are going over 200mph while pit lane is only 45

[tulip parcel]

So medium to hard

Sometimes soft

[jagged sentinel]

Y'all forget that dirt tracks exist

[jagged sentinel]

Toyo tires aren't used in nascar

[tulip parcel]

Except for chunky trucks

[jagged sentinel]

I said nascar

[tulip parcel]

They might one day

As a test

[jagged sentinel]

Not for at least a few more years

[steel kindle]

You don't see many nastrucks anymore

I haven't seen a race in a long ass while of the trucks

[jagged sentinel]

They have a truck series

Doesn't get the same amount of attention as Cup and Xfinity series, clearly

[steel kindle]

Yeah I know the truck series exists, used to be famous and popular but not anymore

Isn't there another type of vehicle in nascar? I think I remember hatchbacks

[vestal garnet]

What are your thoughts on the new Verna

[steel kindle]

Hate the front

Honestly I hate most new cars because imo the light bar looks odd and the grille is way too big

[vestal garnet]

Yea

Side profile is good tho

[steel kindle]

It's good, little off-putting as the hood is so short and lower than the trunk but good

[vestal garnet]

And performance wise it has 1.5 Turbo which produces 160hp and 240nm torque

Verna is one segment below Civic and Corolla

[steel kindle]

And looks like it has a grille to let in air for a 8.4l V10

I don't understand the hige grille style taste

Whats next, foot long mirrors?

[vestal garnet]

[steel kindle]

I swear, a fucking dodge viper gets less air than that thing

[vestal garnet]

Small grille would look a bit out of place tho considering the size of light

[steel kindle]

Yeah but they'd redesign it around the grille... best example is the BMWs

Like the 2018 M3 looks superior to any other BMW that came out after

[vestal garnet]

Agreed

[jagged sentinel]

Dunno why the M3 is a 4-door now

Yes, including the F80

[cunning hatch]

2 doors are not allowed in this day and age!!

[dull folio]

I guess its because they kinda made it a separate car (M4)

[jagged sentinel]

Don't know why the M4 couldn't be the 4-door

[dull folio]

because then nobody would buy the M5

[jagged sentinel]

How does that correlate

[dull folio]

M2 = small-sized coupe
M3 = small-sized sedan
M4 = mid-sized coupe
M5 = mid-sized sedan
M6 (nowadays M8 for some fucking reason) = full-sized luxury coupe)
7 series (possibly M7 if there will be one) = full-sized luxury sedan

[jagged sentinel]

But like
Why change the M3
When the M4 was a new nameplate anyway

[dull folio]

to force people into buying the M4 if they really want a coupe

[jagged sentinel]

I don't think you're picking up what I'm putting down

[steel kindle]

Because BMW Challenge: Try not to ruin their cars impossible

Oh the beloved M3... let's put a pig nose on it!!! Oh, oh, also make it 4 doors!!!

[sage roost]

If only the new M3/4 looked a fraction as good as it looks from the rear

[kind osprey]

There has never been an m7 so I doubt they are going to brake that mold

The 7 series is sporty enough on its own

And the 760 is a v12

[dull folio]

good, the new 7 series is ugly as shit anyway

[kind osprey]

Unfortunately

Why did bmw ruin so many of their cars

[hybrid charm]

Would have been better off with Chris Bangle as the lead designer at this rate

[steel kindle]

BMW doesn't know how not to

[dull folio]

I will never fogive him for designing the E65

[main cosmos]

Look at this beauty

[dull folio]

Is this at Ultrace???

[hybrid charm]

Proper modified Tourer V

A slammed Cressida is fine because the thing is useless in every other way anyway

Slamming a Tourer and wasting such a capable platform is unforgivable

[vestal garnet]

[cedar relic]

i love these cars!

[kind osprey]

https://youtu.be/yAr-_p-m3gc

[steel kindle]

@jagged sentinel I got sad news... the F/A-18 Super Hornet will stop in late 2025...
Edit: stop production I mean

[fallen swan]

we're still using 40 year old jets

[steel kindle]

Well we're using vehicles from the 1950s also,the F/A-18 isn't as bad as other vehicles and its still a decent jet, there is others that should be replaced other than that

And the Super Hornet is only 24 years old, that's not old at all

[fallen swan]

yeah but theres no use in continuin production of old jets when theres f22s and 35s being made

[steel kindle]

Laughs in General Dynamics F-16 Fighting Falcon and McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle

[fallen swan]

still built on 50 year old base

[steel kindle]

And? It's not age but capabilities, the F/A-18 is pretty affordable and does its roles well, its not showing signs of being outdated and doesn't seem to be at the end of its life cycle

Age doesn't matter to the military, what matters is practicality

[fallen swan]

https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2021/10/05/fa-18-corrosion-maintenance-doesnt-consistently-meet-navy-and-marine-corps-standards/

The Navy has a history of problems with their F18s

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/27/magazine/air-force-hypoxia-pilots-navy.html

The Navy’s F/A-18 Super Hornet did not meet its mission-capable rates any year between 2011 and 2019 — due to issues such as delays in depot maintenance, shortage of trained maintenance personnel, obsolete parts, and parts shortages and delays, according to investigators.

[steel kindle]

Corrosion, hell the V-22 has massive issues and it's due to all kinds of issues

[mint plank]

1. F-22s haven't been built for years

2. Yes there is absolutely a reason

[fallen swan]

Yes and that was regarded as a mistake by the Pentagon

[mint plank]

The likes of the F-22 & F-35 are day one aircraft. Use their stealth, SEAD, and air superiority capability to knock out enemy command and control, fighter aircraft and air defence networks.
The reason 4/4.5th gen aircraft are relevant is as day 2+ aircraft
Why waste the flight hours and maintenance man hours and cost sending a f-35 to bomb a target, when a f/a-18 or F-15 Strike Eagle/Eagle II/F-16 can do the job just the same at a far less cost both monetarily and in terms of maintenance man hours

It's the same reason aircraft like the AC-130 and A-10 are still relevant. Very few aircraft have the capacity to loiter around a hot zone for hours and provide on demand highly accurate fire support as units call it in

That long loiter isn't valuable day one, but it's absolutely valuable day two or day three when the enemy has little air countering assets left, and the focus is punching big holes in both the ground, and things on the ground

[steel kindle]

Hell even that one propeller CAS plane that's brand new, it's not as good as a lot of other planes and could get shot down if it just flies into active combat zones but it's a good plane for when threats are mostly gone

[mint plank]

A very very good example is the B-52 in the gulf war
Day one? The B-52 was hundreds of miles out, slinging cruise missiles from well out of air defence range.
But once that anti air threat subsided? Nothing sets a tone like a B-52 saying fuck you and fuck everything in your general area

https://tenor.com/view/b52-bombs-missiles-gif-12763795

[mint plank]

I'd honestly still take an A-10 over the sky warden.
You don't realise how much you appreciate two engines until you lose one

[steel kindle]

I agree

And also this very cool feature

Armor

[mint plank]

And this is only the tip of the iceberg of what states a-10s have flown home in

[steel kindle]

The Warden has a bit of armor too but not as much as the A-10

[mint plank]

There was one missing an entire wing, the other wing was cut in half, and one engine blown to bits, along with no landing gear (because... no wings)
Still made it home

[steel kindle]

One unappreciated one is the Galaxy... fucker can fly home with two missing engines... no, not damaged engines providing no thrust... I mean engines ripped off the plane

[steel kindle]

I didn't believe it until I saw what my friend was talking about on Air Disasters

[mint plank]

Cargo aircraft in general don't get enough appreciation

[steel kindle]

22 February 1991, a military aerial refueling aircraft loses both engines from under the left wing while on a combat mission in Saudi Arabia during the Gulf War, causing serious flight control problems and forcing the pilots to make an emergency landing. The incident was attributed to severe turbulence.

It was turbulence and human error of ground crews

[mint plank]

Not long ago here in Australia, we had the worst floods ever up north.
An airport was closed, because fully flooded.
RAAF was flying in C-130s with supplies and wanted the airport open but the civilian operator said no, it's too dangerous
And the RAAF response was basically 'C-130s can land on an aircraft carrier. Either make it easy for us and open the runway or we'll just use the (flooded, half destroyed highway mind you) highway instead

They landed the c-130s on the runways. The water was literally up to the landing gear wells it was that high

[steel kindle]

Bruh

[mint plank]

Little idea of how bad it was @steel kindle

Actually no that was 22

I'll find 23 photos

[steel kindle]

Before you send them, look at this

The KC-130J here was in a midair collision

Still landed safely with fucked engines

https://www.overtdefense.com/2020/10/05/us-marine-corps-kc-130j-f-35b-mid-air-collision-crews-return-to-units/amp/

[mint plank]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.abc.net.au/article/101837586

[mint plank]

Yeah I remember that

[old sedge]

Being a cargo pilot would probably give you lots of flight hours. 😉

[steel kindle]

F-35s fault

[mint plank]

Idea of what the highways were like

[steel kindle]

Do you live in Australia or are you in the RAAF?

[mint plank]

And C-130s did touch and go LAPES drops on highways like that with no problem

[steel kindle]

Just hope it doesn't snag a wheel on one of those edges, if it's high enough it will tear off the landing gear... they're strong but not indestructible

[mint plank]

I live in Australia.
Medically unfit to serve militarily but I do plan to (and already have a position ready) work in intelligence, under the department of defence

[mint plank]

They didn't land on the highways much. Mostly LAPES drops

Ala, like this

https://tenor.com/view/halo-jump-airborne-special-forces-gif-13892243

[steel kindle]

Yeah I know that lmao

[mint plank]

Very low altitude drops, see the boat at the start

Basically throwing it out the back in a semi controlled fashion with a drogue parachute

[old sedge]

F-35's fault for what?

[mint plank]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-altitude_parachute-extraction_system

[mint plank]

The collision

[old sedge]

Oh

[old sedge]

If I'm not mistaken, this would make a good resume for the C-130 pilots should they apply for airline job

[steel kindle]

You should hear some of the wacky shit my Sergeant has done, he was in Afghanistan and has some funny ass stories about

Guy is a sweet guy though

[cedar relic]

aww

[jagged sentinel]

From Adam LZ

Now I understand why Ford worked their special magic on the GT350's exhaust

[jagged sentinel]

That E46 sounds wonderful

[kind osprey]

Guys, they fired the bad designers and fixed the IX!!!

sike, the real one still looks like shit

[jagged sentinel]

3rd party render?

[remote steeple]

I dunno, almost dangerous to record while driving

[gray karma]

Love that sound mmmmm turns me on

[remote steeple]

Rechecked again

Yeah I didn't see his other hand

[lament bear]

Fuj, I failed the driving test again

[remote steeple]

It's always the next time, sorry to hear about it

did they say where you failed?

[dreamy torrent]

Maybe he doesn't have the other hand

[remote steeple]

Who knows

Meh was kinda oversight

[heady swift]

mustang

[lament bear]

Man I m driving for 3 years without my license I m not a pro but I did the exam parkour like 6 times with no problem .

The supervisor told me to go forward for other park even though the other supervisor said it’s closed so as I did and I went there and went backwards I forgot to put the gear back on 1st

[remote steeple]

you had 2?

oh boy

[lament bear]

They Kept talking to me and asked me questions about presidents

They said wife’s of presidents should not be in politics

[remote steeple]

[dreamy torrent]

Banning Mustang for car enthusiasts is like banning Keeanu Reaves in JohnWick Film series

[night steeple]

just purchased a motorcycle, or a moped, whatever 115cc falls into
time to cut my rush hour time in half

[jagged sentinel]

And that was the last time we ever heard from Kozi Draconequus

[night steeple]

dont worry i have some experience riding
though it does require some balls to ride in the city, just gotta be aware

[jagged sentinel]

I don't doubt that, it was just an easy joke

[steel kindle]

Now go upgrade to a 750cc GSXR

[night steeple]

my license lets me buy up to 250cc only, besides I probably wont get a bike that costs more than a car, since I mostly drive cars for longer trips anyway

[steel kindle]

Oh they're dirt cheap here

[night steeple]

they're cheap here too since they're literally everywhere and parts are plenty

[steel kindle]

I went for a mad max build on my bike

[night steeple]

I wont do much to mine, maybe some hand guards and a dashcam is enough xd
its a yamaha 115 or something

[steel kindle]

Always have two cams tho, one for front and one for the rear so you don't get murdered by the insurance company and can prove if you're not at fault

Insurance companies are quick on the trigger to blame you because most people on bikes drive carelessly

[night steeple]

ah, there's the twist, in my country the bikes usually get away with shit, even when the cars have cams for proof
quite the system innit

asian things

[steel kindle]

F

[dreamy torrent]

Great, nice custom built

I'd recommend you to have ceramic coating over bike's paint.

[winged geyser]

eh

[steel kindle]

I honestly love the looks of those lexus

Grille is quite ig but the entire front accents it perfectly so I end up loving it...

[winged geyser]

heres another

[steel kindle]

But the lexus line looks quite nice imo

[proven dock]

Volkswagen Gol G8

[kind osprey]

Having limits seems so foreign to me because you can get a motorcycle license here and then the day after buy a Hayabusa

[steel kindle]

Personally I don't like it

[proven dock]

Why?

[steel kindle]

Looks so tacky imo

[proven dock]

this is it customized

[steel kindle]

The VW Gol R doesn't need a wing that big and that's the high performance model, it says "track" on the side with the wheels tucked in like its being stepped on...

[proven dock]

this is the normal version

[steel kindle]

I know what the normal one looks like

[proven dock]

Ok

[steel kindle]

It doesn't change the fact it looks tacky imo

[gloomy helm]

@kind osprey shut up

[proven dock]

the volkswagen gol performance model does not have these wings

this is just a customization of the normal model

[steel kindle]

I know it doesn't, that's why I said "it doesn't need"

[proven dock]

Indeed

[steel kindle]

I know by the customization it has the base engine

[proven dock]

Incredible car

[gloomy helm]

Real

[steel kindle]

It's Honda, Toyota, BMW, Volkswagen, and Ford Mustang base owners that are kings of upbadging their cars

Trying to make it look like a racecar with the same performance as the 30 yo white chick's that owns the same make and model

[gloomy helm]

If they like it let them do what they want

They tryna vibe

[steel kindle]

I'm not gonna stop them but they're doing it mainly for other people to look at so I give my opinion

[proven dock]

there are updates that really improve the look and performance

[steel kindle]

I know ricers, I have a few friends that are ricers themselves but I don't shit talk them, I tell them that performance should be first but that's about it

[steel kindle]

The only one that improves a tiny but might be the spoiler but at slow speeds that's more drag than downforce

[proven dock]

Indeed

[jagged sentinel]

Mfs buy everything except the right engine

[kind osprey]

I have a ping pong ball of similar size to this vehicle

🇺🇸

[jagged sentinel]

It's a doorstop lmao

🇺🇸

[kind osprey]

With my 6000 square foot 3 bedroom house and my FORD F 150

Land of the land

[jagged sentinel]

Europeans when they learn the Ranger is a mid-size truck

Europeans when they learn that Full-size trucks are not, in fact, the biggest vehicles people daily drive hwre

I say Europeans

I really mean pretty much any country but the US, Canada, Mexico and maybe Australia

Australia likes trucks too apparently

[gloomy helm]

Probably travels faster with better acceleration too

[steel kindle]

"Well I wanted to make it look fast" well buy the fast one or a fast car for a bear price 💀

[jagged sentinel]

"I wanted V8-like performance" then buy a V8 lol

[steel kindle]

Sure 💀

[jagged sentinel]

Probably gonna last you longer anyway

[kind osprey]

Actually ironically I am driving an f150 to school today

This will be new to me

[steel kindle]

America the country where a grandma car can outperform some semi-sport cars

[jagged sentinel]

Mfw the slow option in a 9-year old truck made 300 horsepower

[kind osprey]

300 horsepower but like 5800 pounds probably

[steel kindle]

The 2001 Buick got 5.7 0-60 from its NA engine 💀

[gloomy helm]

I've hit the top speed in the ka (99)

[jagged sentinel]

13 crew cab 6' bed 1500

Don't know the exact number

[jagged sentinel]

What a cursed image

[steel kindle]

It's strangely real

[dry sage]

Just shopping for groceries, then you see this baby.

[steel kindle]

The ACH-47

@jagged sentinel this is it

@gloomy helm this is the two American T-34 tanks

The 1st is the T-34 calliope based on the M4 sherman, and the other is the T-34 heavy tank

[gloomy helm]

@steel kindle

Merica

[steel kindle]

F, there is one American tank that has over 20 guns on it that's not photoshop like that

[gloomy helm]

This is not Photoshop

M15A Gun Motor Carriage

[steel kindle]

Oh it's a on paper design

None made

I don't really look into on paper designs tbh

[gloomy helm]

There was one prototype made

[steel kindle]

Oh? It said none were 💀, either way it's a very stupid idea

And glad it never went past prototype stage

The Lee was a great tank, it doesn't deserve to be butchered like that 💀

[jaunty tiger]

Bro is posting tanks in the car channel💀

[jagged sentinel]

It's called transportation

Where does it say cars specifically

We were talking about jets and military aircraft a couple days ago

[serene cosmos]

I’m gonna post a unicycle in here just for the sake of it

[jagged sentinel]

🆗

[swift galleon]

least armed texas house

[dull folio]

upbadging is one of the most pathetic things you can do to your car

people who don't know shit about cars won't be impressed with your fake AMG badges and people who know will bully the shit out of you

[gloomy helm]

Says who

[dull folio]

its common knowledge

[gloomy helm]

By people who can't cope that others do stuff that makes them happy

[dull folio]

upbadging means you're poor lmfao

[gloomy helm]

Ok and

Oh noooo he's poor noooooo

You can't put a better badge on that car nooo

[dull folio]

makes you look like a clown

[gloomy helm]

Makes other people act like monkeys for something that doesn't effect them

[dull folio]

its cringe

[gloomy helm]

Cope

[dull folio]

If you like how the top model looks, leave the badges out

[gloomy helm]

https://media.tenor.com/epNMHGvRyHcAAAAM/gigachad-chad.gif

[dull folio]

m3 bumpers/skirts on a base ass model are still somewhat tolerable

[gloomy helm]

118i owners putting an M badge on their car

[dull folio]

but the moment i see you slap an M badge on a basic 318i im clowning on u

all 118i owners are pathetic anyway

[gloomy helm]

Why

[dull folio]

bmw
4 banger

old bmw 4 bangers get a pass because they are cool

[gloomy helm]

The meat riding is crazy

[dull folio]

says the upbadging apologist

[kind osprey]

Oh no putting fake performance badges on your car is stupid as hell

that's not a vibe that's a red flag

That's like wearing fake designer clothes, you get subpar stuff just for the name and you look goofy as shit when someone points it out

People just need to not be insecure losers and rock what they got. Nobody is impressed by a fake M badge because the only people who know the badge know enough to usually tell it's fake as shit

[gloomy helm]

Common epik L

[hybrid charm]

Saw this on tik tok today

Lol

[jagged sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[steel kindle]

Oh no, I forgot the word "transportation" means only cars 💀

[steel kindle]

If I see someone do that, I'm running em off the road

[kind osprey]

understandable

[night steeple]

did my first proper ride through the rush hour traffic today to work
saved a lot of time, and wasnt as scary as I thought

[steel kindle]

Niceeee

[vestal garnet]

Nice bmw

[vestal garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/go-fast-car-overspeeding-that-was-close-gif-16745154

[steel kindle]

Average honda kid on a residential road

[vestal garnet]

[jagged sentinel]

@steel kindle you were saying?

[steel kindle]

Ok so a friend of mine flew down to see me and when she came over and pulled up at my house, she said "I guess you like american cars" while looking at my Ford Focus and Ford Transit 💀, her brother jokingly kept going on how the cars are the most American things ever to the point that she googled it and found out they're British 💀

Idk why but I couldn't stop laughing

[jagged sentinel]

We didn't invent the car

We did make it affordable, though

Relatively speaking

[steel kindle]

Nope

Also I kinda wish Ford made planes again

[jagged sentinel]

They built them under license

Like what Mitsubishi is doing with F-15s and F-16s

[steel kindle]

Ford Trimotor

[jagged sentinel]

Oh, that one

[steel kindle]

No, I mean a actual plane by Ford

[steel kindle]

you'd never notice as those planes actually land

[jagged sentinel]

Huh?

[steel kindle]

Think about it

It's a dark humor joke

[jagged sentinel]

I mean Mitsu has their own variant of the F-16

[steel kindle]

Yeah ik

You don't get the joke

What did Japanese pilots start doing late in the war?

[jagged sentinel]

Oh that's what you meant

[steel kindle]

Yes

[dull folio]

Euro Fords are terrible

[steel kindle]

I won't deny it

[delicate grotto]

Two hicks arguing over pickup trucks and planes I see

[mint plank]

Eh

F-15 yeah

But the F-2 is derived from the F-16, not a variant

The F-2 and F-16 are pretty different

There is a 'Japanese' variant f-16, but they never went to adopt it, and developed the f-2 later

Oh, speak of the devil, this f-16

https://warthunder.com/en/news/8121/current/

[jagged sentinel]

That's what I meant

[mint plank]

It's kinda like the hornet-super hornet situation

Yes they look visually similar, but they're very different aircraft internally (and in size for hornet-sh)

@jagged sentinel .

Oop

Wrong link

https://www.google.com/amp/s/theaviationgeekclub.com/interesting-video-highlights-main-differences-fa-18-legacy-hornet-fa-18-super-hornet/

[steel kindle]

Yeah, I've been walking around work and there's a poster for all the prototype planes that Boeing has made in this facility

And helicopters