would yall prefer a campervan-van, or a expandable roof rack camper on an SUV? (something like an old land cruiser)
#transportation
night steeple
proper elbow
Depends what you're doing with it
If you want to actually off-road, rooftop tent. If you're sticking to paved streets, graded forest roads, etc, camper van.
hybrid charm
yes
ferrari is very strict about their badge being removed
or getting scratched, damaged intentionally
old sedge
Justin Bieber was banned simply for customizing his Ferrari
And he's not the first multi-millionaire who got banned either from buying a new Ferrari or from being eligible for their VIP list.
old sedge
The famous Chef Ramsay got banned from their VIP list
old sedge
ferrari is like karen of car brands
I like Ferrari cars, but the brand itself acts like a clingy ex who thinks he still has control over you.
hybrid charm
its either that they want their cars to be always known as "red car that goes brrrrr" or they take any modification on their car as insult cus it prolly offends the automotive designer
hybrid charm
I like Ferrari cars, but the brand itself acts like a clingy ex who thinks he st...
yeah
pagani is the best
theyre cool
proper elbow
You can't really compare Pagani and Ferrari
hybrid charm
not comparing em
old sedge
The rules in many car brands when buying cars from them is mostly not buying cars with the intent to use them to commit crimes
hybrid charm
pagani is cool
old sedge
Which I think is a given
hybrid charm
The rules in many car brands when buying cars from them is mostly not buying car...
yeah its pretty normal
you know the uh that one car
which almost got banned in UK
old sedge
What car is that?
hybrid charm
Lotus carlton
shit was so fast and was used for crimes
The Lotus Carlton (also called Vauxhall Lotus Carlton, Lotus Omega and Opel Lotus Omega) is a Vauxhall Carlton/Opel Omega A saloon upgraded by Lotus in order to be able to reach speeds up to 285 km/h (177 mph) with acceleration to equal contemporary sports cars.
i want one of these
prolly rare asf tho
old sedge
The Lotus Carlton (also called Vauxhall Lotus Carlton, Lotus Omega and Opel Lotu...
Oh my, no wonder it got banned
old sedge
What is this?
hybrid charm
thats lotus carlton
old sedge
Oooh, I thought Lotus is all about performance cars
proper elbow
The Carlton was definitely a performance car
old sedge
I mean, I thought Lotus cars are small, 2-door performance cars
Never thought they'll build a sedan performance car
hybrid charm
it actually isnt their car
they gave it to lotus for them to upgrade it
basically "yo take this car and go crazy with it"
during that time whatever this cars actual brand was that brand owned lotus
old sedge
pagani is the best
I think Pagani would be on Bugatti, Koenigsegg and Glickenhaus level
old sedge
SSC Tuatara is fast too, it's faster than the Agera
If Koenigsegg fans say "Koenigsegg has the best hypercars", Elon Musk might say "Are my Tesla hypercars joke to you?" 
night steeple
if I have the chance to get a "supercar" I'd probably go for a pagani, their design is something I really like
main cosmos
Thats an opel
jagged sentinel
If Koenigsegg fans say "Koenigsegg has the best hypercars", Elon Musk might say ...
Let's wait and see until he actually makes them
sage roost
If only I had 230 grand
jagged sentinel
but I just don't find it good looking
The headlights ruin it for me
That's my main problem with the SLR; the headlights
jagged sentinel
There are a bunch of things about the car I'm not sure about
hybrid charm
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2006-mercedes-benz-slr-mclaren-16/
arent these mclaren slr's extremely rare?
nah
proper elbow
Those SLRs are so damn ugly
tawny tangle
They look good
proper elbow
The overall shape of the car, the wheels, the headlights, the hood
hybrid charm
yes it was a collab vehicle
old sedge
Oh, thanks
hybrid charm
the engine was either made by both of them or mclaren did it themselves im not sure which one is it
proper elbow
The profile just looks weird with the rear glass and rear bumper. Pointy front end, rounded rear, no bueno
old sedge
McLaren did a collab with at least 2 German luxury vehicle manufacturers
I assume this is also a collab since this McLaren F1 uses a BMW engine
https://gran-turismo.fandom.com/wiki/BMW_McLaren_F1_GTR_Race_Car_'97
kind osprey
I assume this is also a collab since this McLaren F1 uses a BMW engine
https://g...
This isn't the same level of collaboration as the slr because that car is labeled as both companies.
It's sorta like how the new Supra uses bmw components but it is not called the supra bmw (which would be pretty funny)
Mclaren originally wanted homda to power their street going f1 because they were so impressed by the nsx
Honda said no and then they went to bmw
old sedge
So that's why this McLaren F1 has BMW engine
jagged sentinel
Didn't they throw it in an SUV too
kind osprey
Yea it was that race concept one
Very wacky of them but it was for the Vine
So they were obligated to do so
jagged sentinel
kind osprey
When I think of peak race car I thing of a high ground clearance 4000 pound circular object
jagged sentinel
4000 pounds seems kinda light
4.7 second zero to 60
That's
Kinda slow for a vehicle of its size and power band
real gust
As a Ford owner, I'd shit my pants if I attempt to ride a bike and do that
old sedge
rancid current
As a Ford owner, I'd shit my pants if I attempt to ride a bike and do that
mustang?
night steeple
finally managed to find a hole in the firewall where the clutch pedal is supposed to be, gonna use that to wire a subwoofer + amp, and do it myself
time for more bass 
stoic minnow
any hatchback fans here?
covert dragon
any hatchback fans here?
that looks old
kind osprey
that looks old
Early-mid 80's
main cosmos
Sick
old sedge
Which is better, Lancer Evo or Mitsubishi Eclipse?
hybrid charm
any hatchback fans here?
I remember them. Super nimble cars
old sedge
If people think BMW and Merc can be easily bought by poor people, then why do people think Porsche is for rich people?
Those 3 are luxury brands
I have a bright idea for fuel efficiency with less stress. For example, instead of having a pickup with an 5.0L V8 engine or bigger, why not build a twin-engine pickup? A car with dual 1.6L I4 engines? What could possibly go wrong?
sage roost
Which is better, Lancer Evo or Mitsubishi Eclipse?
In what regard?
old sedge
Performance
dry sage
icy echo
<:PeepoPoggers:585617800270315530>
🔥
honest herald
@delicate grotto @jagged sentinel
jagged sentinel
I have a bright idea for fuel efficiency with less stress. For example, instead ...
We have ways of getting okay mpg out of trucks
Though you often need to pay extra for it
Decent is a relative term
drifting kelp
I have a bright idea for fuel efficiency with less stress. For example, instead ...
Trucks need to be built to tow so putting a measly incapable engine in it is silly. That's why trucks are still 6L+ and turbo diesel
And dual engine setups are just overtly expensive and technologically declined.
To make a basic 4.0 V8 AWD efficiency comparable to 2 I4s you'd need about 2.6L per engine due to extra weight and drivetrain complications.
The Twin Mill by Hotwheels explored on that with 2 V8s mounted Parallel to each other and it struggled to push realistic standards due to those reasons.
jagged sentinel
And dual engine setups are just overtly expensive and technologically declined.
Not to mention
Where
Under the bed?
drifting kelp
That aswell
kind osprey
<@383760352309149696> <@407334451132104704>
Why did this audio get so popular it is the worst utter shit I've even heard xD
kind osprey
The Twin Mill by Hotwheels explored on that with 2 V8s mounted Parallel to each ...
They also did a duel engine Audi tt thats thing was sick
drifting kelp
Yea but it'd be more effective to put a V10 instead of 2 I5s , especially when you use it out of performance and more in terms of reliability.
heady swift
wide shadow
I have a bright idea for fuel efficiency with less stress. For example, instead ...
hover cars 🤷♂️
kind osprey
Didn't they cancel the tt like 3 times
loud spade
No more baby R8 
kind osprey
Coula swore that model was always in and out
jagged sentinel
Coula swore that model was always in and out
Considering the patterns we're seeing with a ton of other models I reckon this one will be gone longer than it usually is
night steeple
its sad that small sports cars are getting expensive and therefore the people that actually like small sports cars arent getting much choices other than a miata or something
kind osprey
Everything is getting more expensive it sucks
old sedge
Besides inflation, I think another reason why cars are getting more expensive is because customers are demanding for more features
jagged sentinel
It's because of
A. Cars are getting more complicated
B. High demand
C. Low supply
D. Greed
Dealerships know that customers nowadays are willing to pay a little more than MSRP for their cars and are taking advantage
jagged sentinel
From my understanding it will automatically set the climate controls to values that you set
I think my maverick does that at startup
old sedge
Back then, manual ACs are fine, but now, even single-zone automatic climate control is on its way to becoming outdated
Since dual-zone climate control is becoming more apparent here
jagged sentinel
Single zone will still be the standard for cheap cars
old sedge
Yeah, I was about to say that single zone would be for cheap cars
But for expensive SUVs, dual-zone should be the standard
My dad is probably going to dislike DRLs because he's gonna say that it's a waste of battery
And there's no switch to turn DRLs off
unreal knot
Any Jaguar fans?
static gale
is that a bike path?
kind osprey
Where is that monstrosity of a lane tf
drifting kelp
Paint on my Porsche came out pretty good after a 4k sand, ill do 5k tomorrow and if I remember to get a vid I'll send it here
hybrid charm
is that a bike path?
Motorcycle path
The bus went on the motorcycle lane I guess....
After passing the bridge it got stuck at the crossroad due to not enough space to turn right RIP
static gale
F
jagged sentinel
One of the most American engines of the 21st century
Not including crate motors
drifting kelp
Got a vid of 5k, Glaze later
swift ruin
Got a vid of 5k, Glaze later
What model of Porsche?
drifting kelp
What model of Porsche?
1985 Porsche 928S
unreal knot
Any other Jaguar owners in here?
rancid current
Any other Jaguar owners in here?
ZX10R owner here
static gale
well, if I don't see a link here after a month, I know what happened
urban pond
People really just be posting footage of them doing illegal shit nowadays huh 
drifting kelp
If its not legally bindable then they can't get you on any sort of offense, I've done 300+ on public roads while remaining safe and they won't catch you if you're smart about it.
wise gorge
Wish you get hit once while doing such a run tbh 
Let’s see your vehicle control skills
drifting kelp
I've been on the highway and in a racing crew since 2003, I'm entering into the Budget league with my personal team and have competed in Group N charity cups with my Opel Superboss. Never wish death upon anyone even if you know I can't reach you. I've clocked 312kmh at 2am on an Empty N1 road on the way to Cape Town with spotters up and ready well before I was there. My car is a 2009 Chevrolet Lumina SS with upgrades to 500hp and chassis work to be stable on banked surfaces and uneasy surfaces. And yes, I do have a racing license, a motorcycle license, a car license and a 10ton+ truck license. I'm more than qualified enough to consider going those speeds and i do it in the best way possible to avoid an accident. And another thing to add to the matter, literally noone would hit me when I do my runs, I prep it for weeks and we test convoy first with the spotters in place then final run with no plates and a guaranteed nobody on the highway.
urban pond
I've been on the highway and in a racing crew since 2003, I'm entering into the ...
Just because you’re qualified to go that speed doesn’t make it any more legal on public roads tho, In your case you prep for it so it’s a little bit more respectable but the Bike video is just straight up asshole driving
graceful mural
may natural selection take drivers like this so the rest of us can be safe
People like you are what give motorcyclists a bad name, why people usually blame the guy on the motorcycle when they get in a wreck
oh hey i was able to see a few license plates
wonder if an anonymous report to the local police department with a link to the video and channel would help
urban pond
may natural selection take drivers like this so the rest of us can be safe
Peopl...
motorcyclists drive like that then will complain about people not seeing them on the road 
graceful mural
so true
rancid current
may natural selection take drivers like this so the rest of us can be safe
Peopl...
i agree
rancid current
*motorcyclists drive like that then will complain about people not seeing them o...
i think bikers are dumb
drifting kelp
Just because you’re qualified to go that speed doesn’t make it any more legal on...
Can't argue that, I absolutely despise reckless driving as I've lost lots of friends from it, I actually barely even do high speed runs anymore and my Lumina nowadays is used as the grocery getter.
urban pond
Most people around here speed on highways mainly because any race track is like 5 hours away and it’s expensive
drifting kelp
Yea I used to track my Lumina extensively when I was tuning it, for a full day at Kyalami with my friends to test the car ot was around 3k USD just for the passes
last summit
Most people around here speed on highways mainly because any race track is like ...
If i remember correct, racetracks are free in germany, it probably doesnt change anything for the dudes that wants to be there quickly though
kind osprey
Yea I used to track my Lumina extensively when I was tuning it, for a full day a...
$3000 for a single DAY?!?!
drifting kelp
Yes with 3 other friends, due to the power and the facilities we needed we basically had to pay the GT3 prices for a day.
2 of the cars weren't road legal so we needed trailer accommodation, to tune the cars was one lot with a dyno, and as we are all 350hp+ we are considered as high powered cars so we had to enter separately
kind osprey
$3000 for multiple people that sounds expensive but at least better than $3000 individually
drifting kelp
That ofcourse doesn't include the Semi Slicks, the Fuel, the Diesel for the trucks, any types of failures software or hardware wise, everything else 😂
kind osprey
This is why people speed on public roads 
drifting kelp
$3000 for multiple people that sounds expensive but at least better than $3000 i...
Yea at the time it was worth it and we all had brand new cars at the time so it was worth it
kind osprey
Fun with cars = rich people
drifting kelp
On that day if I can remember correctly it was my Lumina, a GTR(new at the time) A 911, and an SLS
Needless to say I was the most practical of the bunch😂
kind osprey
Like a Chevy ss?
drifting kelp
Yes
kind osprey
Cool
slow obsidian
Going to make on GTA.
hybrid charm
The car is literally so drop-dead ugly that it looks like mansory had a say in how it should be designed
kind osprey
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/a30750318/ferrari-purosangue-n...
The ironic part is that is the least pureblood ferrari I've ever layed eyes on
It is everything Ferrari shouldn't be
One is an organization and another is a car idk why they just both can't have the name
drifting kelp
Petrol going down again in January 
uncut saddle
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/a30750318/ferrari-purosangue-n...
What the fuck? I know Ferrari did some wild shit but this is ridiculous
solemn night
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/a30750318/ferrari-purosangue-n...
Just curious, did Ferrari have any prior association with that word?
jagged sentinel
Just curious, did Ferrari have any prior association with that word?
No
Ferrari is just a bitch
solemn night
Hmmm I’ll have to look at the article a little more closer but you can just claim intellectual property all willy nilly like that
If anything that charity should file a motion for sanctions against Ferrari
For a frivolous suit
steady cipher
i skateboard
jagged sentinel
Hmm yes indeed
steady cipher
i skateboard to the 7/11 and get a tall can in a brown bag
and i drinks that shit playboy
jagged sentinel
Coyote
steady cipher
sounds like a mean ass stang
jagged sentinel
Very unique sound
jagged sentinel
No clue
The coyote platform has a huge aftermarket scene
DOHC engines are able to rev higher then pushrod engines
steady cipher
that's good to hear
supra doesn't because they used a bmw engine
lol
automatic too
jagged sentinel
But more moving parts, more complexity, bla bla bla
steady cipher
what, coyote engine?
jagged sentinel
Yeah, their DOHC
steady cipher
so i can't learn what that means in a few minutes
jagged sentinel
what, coyote engine?
Obviously it doesn't seem to be seen as much of a problem
jagged sentinel
so i can't learn what that means in a few minutes
Not from my dumb ass, no
steady cipher
nono, i mean i looked it up and it'll take me a long time to understand it
not not from you
jagged sentinel
There is a bit of an interesting story behind why Chevy decided to use pushrods in the modern era
jagged sentinel
So
I'm the early 90s when the C4 Vette was nearing it's end, they put 2 different engines in 2 cars
One of them was an overhead cam engine
One was a pushrod
And a group of Chevy brass drove them (and I mean DROVE them) around a test track
And from what I remember they all had a discussion and they found that the pushrod design that was more enjoyable to drive
steady cipher
they use pushrods in hellcats?
jagged sentinel
I do know Cadillac tried doing a DOHC V8 via the Northstar
steady cipher
and demons and shit?
jagged sentinel
they use pushrods in hellcats?
Yup
jagged sentinel
I do know Cadillac tried doing a DOHC V8 via the Northstar
Which didn't go very well
steady cipher
that's very interesting
so driver experience is influenced by pushrod-using engines
jagged sentinel
I guess they found it more fun
steady cipher
and the only reason why i know of hellcats and demons is because they're all over the internet
i would say it paid off
good decision, right?
jagged sentinel
I'd think so
I mean to be fair
The LS's success isn't solely due to it's pushrod
It was just a good engine platform
steady cipher
i believe you
jagged sentinel
A good portion of them were overbuilt
steady cipher
LS seems renowned
jagged sentinel
Even some moderately used LS engines can still take a good beating
steady cipher
so they're reslient
jagged sentinel
Extremely
steady cipher
or durable
jagged sentinel
Yeah
steady cipher
shit i guess i gotta get a 90s chevy lol
jagged sentinel
Do you know what formula drift is
steady cipher
nah
jagged sentinel
just take formula 1 and replace the 1 with a drift
It's professional tandem drifting
And a very solid portion of the cars there use LS engines
steady cipher
oh
jagged sentinel
There are some pretty wild builds there
Like I believe there's a twin supercharged Aston Martin V12 vantage
jagged sentinel
Yeah, Americans love our low-end torque
And from what I've heard, at least the sportier LS engines deliver their torque very linearly, so they're a bit easier to learn
steady cipher
that's wild that ls engines are used for a drift league
jagged sentinel
And it isn't standard equipment or anything
It was the team's choice as to what type of build they wanted
There was almost an EV Camaro drift car in FD
steady cipher
that's what i was thinking, ev
jagged sentinel
And like
The FD organizers were working on changing the rules specifically so that car could be allowed
But I guess it didn't work out cuz I don't know if it ever raced
jagged sentinel
Half the cars on that grid make like a thousand horsepower, so
steady cipher
eh, torque
jagged sentinel
Those cars are no joke
jagged sentinel
I mean low end torque really doesn't matter much because they pretty much hold the cars at or near redline their entire runs
jagged sentinel
It definitely would
jagged sentinel
I mean obviously they weren't going to give it 1800 horsepower
steady cipher
i can totally see ev threatening a drift race
jagged sentinel
I believe it was right around what the gas engines were making
steady cipher
can you link me to a clip of a formula drift race
jagged sentinel
The electric Camaro made around 800 lb-ft of torque
steady cipher
low-end torque though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hTesCkABtM k im watching this
lol this shit is crazy
jagged sentinel
Fr
FD is my second favorite division of motorsport
I'm not actually sure if it's considered "official"
jagged sentinel
i like how it's 1v1
Ye
steady cipher
im guessing playoff format
steady cipher
im watching top 16 so im guessing yeah, playoffs
jagged sentinel
I don't really actively watch any motorsport; I used to watch GTLM
I'm starting to get into Dakar though
jagged sentinel
Current or all-time?
steady cipher
both
jagged sentinel
All-time has got to be group B rally
Imagine a division with Almost no rules or regulations at all
steady cipher
ill check it out
jagged sentinel
No budget restrictions, power, weight, very little safety
steady cipher
looked it up and saw a bunch of gta rally cars lol
jagged sentinel
I don't follow rally much
Dakar is the only rally division I watch, and that's way different to what 99% of people think rally is
steady cipher
i have no idea what rally is
what's your current favorite motorsport?
i only ask what group a is because you mentioned group b
jagged sentinel
what's your current favorite motorsport?
GTLM
But my favorite GTLM car was retired in 2019
steady cipher
so i googled it
steady cipher
i see bmw m6 and some article saying "farewell to gtm and a golden age of gt racing"
steady cipher
drag races right?
jagged sentinel
No car from any motorsport will ever be as batshit insane as a top fuel dragster
jagged sentinel
drag races right?
Yes
steady cipher
i'd agree
jagged sentinel
10,000 horsepower
steady cipher
so you don't keep up with f1?
jagged sentinel
It's hard not to
steady cipher
granted it's different
jagged sentinel
I don't even follow F1 very closely and I still end up hearing about how often Hamilton fucking farts during a a pitstop
steady cipher
f1 went pop
jagged sentinel
I see F1 stuff all over my socials
jagged sentinel
f1 went pop
It's always been popular
steady cipher
sure which is why a neophyte like me would know about it
hamilton got knighted
after a losing year
i heard of schumacher too
gotta go pop
jagged sentinel
Ye
jagged sentinel
I see
jagged sentinel
College
steady cipher
lol pretty much
driver is drunk too but he's on private property so it doesn't matter
jagged sentinel
driver is drunk too but he's on private property so it doesn't matter
This was at an open house 💀
steady cipher
me too honestly
jagged sentinel
My instructor was driving that yellow buggy
steady cipher
you heard toyota is developing an ev with manual transmission?
jagged sentinel
Yeah
Heard about the patents a few months ago
Basically emulates the different gear ratios a conventional ICE transmission would have
And I assume you'll be able to put it in automatic mode
Since it doesn't have any actual gears
steady cipher
i'd hope so
jagged sentinel
Or maybe not
The coolest transmission I've ever seen though
Is the Koenigsegg CC850
steady cipher
like any business, they're tasked with appealing to their customers
what's cool about it if you don't mind
jagged sentinel
Oh Christ...
So it's a transmission with automatic and manual settings
Stick manual, by the way
Not paddles
steady cipher
so it electronically takes care of the clutch
steady cipher
so im reading the article and may see that it definitely is hard to explain
i don't know what a synchronizer is
i did catch this quote though
“It’s an augmented electronic control,” von Koenigsegg said, “but we worked really hard to make it absolutely genuine in its analog feel. So you can’t just pull it out of gear without the clutch unless you rev-match it. You can’t shift down to a too-low gear without forcing it. If you push hard, you feel the resistance of what would be the synchros. If you push the clutch fast, it’s heavier. All those kind of things that make it completely natural feeling, like a manual, but having the upside of different gear ratios in different modes.”
and this "The gorgeous, gated shifter in the middle of the CC850's cockpit is basically an electronic signal device — it has no mechanical connection to the transmission. But a complex set of sensors can tell the shifter’s exact position at all times, and where it’s headed, so the transmission can anticipate which clutches to engage as you complete your shift and bring your foot off the clutch pedal. The result is a semi-electronic, semi-hydraulic shifting system that fully replicates the feel of driving a manual."
it shows people really want manual cars
jagged sentinel
I'm pretty sure Christian did it because he could
steady cipher
who's Christian
jagged sentinel
Christian Von Koenigsegg
steady cipher
oh
sure, koenigsegg is renowned
i don't even know how they make money tbh
or any supercar company for that matter
jagged sentinel
i don't even know how they make money tbh
Low-volume high price
steady cipher
ultimately they have to sell more product than upkeep. koenigsegg is crazy
jagged sentinel
Something as insignificant as the hydraulic hood struts are made in-house
steady cipher
that's more expensive
jagged sentinel
They also made a car without a transmission
steady cipher
okay, so i say this because i know bugatti hasn't made a profit in a while
but they got bought by vw and was used for marketing
jagged sentinel
I'm sure they profited from La Voiture Noire
Which is a Chiron with a bodykit that wasn't even built by Bugatti or VW
steady cipher
that's 18 engineers
jagged sentinel
Underneath it's a Chiron
steady cipher
sure
jagged sentinel
Is that a sarcastic sure or
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no
jagged sentinel
jagged sentinel
Alr
steady cipher
im saying supercar companies have a hard time making a profit
pale bough
steady cipher
they have to hire the best engineers and pay for the best infrastructure
and then they sell a limited number of cars at a high price to the richest people on earth
steady cipher
<:WeirdChamp:720264406805774387>
are you the same bitch from the tech server?
pale bough
Yes🤣
steady cipher
i won't ever see you again
pale bough
Nope
jagged sentinel
im saying supercar companies have a hard time making a profit
It took Lamborghini 30 years to make a profit
steady cipher
It took Lamborghini 30 years to make a profit
sounds reasonable, although they've been selling plenty tractors
speaking of lambo, ferrari makes more money off licensing their brand than their cars
since lambo was founded by someone who worked for and hated ferrari
jagged sentinel
Mr Lamborghini didn't work for Ferrari
steady cipher
mb he bought one
jagged sentinel
Wha
jagged sentinel
Man I don't know you that well idk if you're sarcastic or not🗿
steady cipher
fair
well i gave you my word
you gave me a lot of cool info so im not about to be sarcastic and shit
jagged sentinel
mb he bought one
So the story I've heard a few different times is that Ferruccio Lamborghini (henceforth referred to as Mr Lamborghini or Mr Lambo because CBA to type his name) bought a Ferrari and had a problem with the clutch
And apparently he came up with a solution and brought it to Enzo Ferrari and offered it to him, to which Enzo responded with something to the tune of "go back to your tractors, farmer"
steady cipher
and now rappers and millionaires prefer lambos
jagged sentinel
I do too
steady cipher
because they look doper
jagged sentinel
Because I have the mental age of 8
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poetic justice
jagged sentinel
There's a reason I love big V8s so much
steady cipher
eh, i prefer lambos
i think boomers should prefer lambos as well
imagine telling a boomer that you can't repaint your car
jagged sentinel
Lamborghini themselves spawned one of the most iconic Italian supercar manufacturers out of negativity as well
steady cipher
which
jagged sentinel
Pagani
jagged sentinel
They are
jagged sentinel
And they 100% deserve their spot in the boutique supercar royalty
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they do
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Alongside Bugatti, Koenigsegg, etc
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the cars are beautiful
pagani is fucking wild, ill just say that
and not much else
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They came on to the scene with a bang and they haven't slowed down at all
Which is what's so impressive
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it is
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They haven't missed
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just gif'd a pagani
regardless of how good their current models are, i want that zonda
it'll cost $800k to maintain every year, but i still want it
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I want your opinion on current supercar top players
Keyboard supercar, not hypercar
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what is a keyboard supercar?
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i'd say best bang for buck, gt-r
that's been my position in that category for a while
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The Corvette obliterates the 3 I mentioned in price
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oh out of the four?
i suppose the corvette is the best bang for buck
lambo, mclaren, and ferrari have the brand behind them
therefore they cost more
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It makes me so happy that america finally has a genuine supercar worthy of competing with the heavyweights
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It's even got a proper supercar engine
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i think viper joined their ranks too, but that didn't last long
yeah, corvette is OP
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No pushrods no more, that bitch got DOHC
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is that good
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No more Cross-plane, it's a flatplane crank a la Ferrari
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new corvette?
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Yes, the C8 Z06
Chevy learned from the best
They studied the engine of the Ferrari 458 italia
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nice
btw same deal with flatplane/crossplane, it'll take me a while to understand so i dunno
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That is actually much easier to explain
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They studied the engine of the Ferrari 458 italia
was that model flatplane?
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They can rev higher, faster and in a more balanced manner
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im assuming they interact with valves in the engine, etc
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im assuming they interact with valves in the engine, etc
It's what moves the pistons up and down in the order that they do
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Fuck yeah I do
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was mid-engine a good move?
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It's what Daddy Zora has wanted since the beginning
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he wanted/predicted a mid-engine corvette though
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hmm damn
if it's durable, it would be smart to buy it used
you know, new car/sports car tax
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I wouldn't buy a first-year car anyway
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yeah, generally a bad idea
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Especially with a powerplant as groundbreaking for Chevy as the C8 Z06's
The Corvette was arguably a world-class sports car before
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i thought it was now
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But now with the quality of the C8 and the performance of the Z06 I think it is going to be a world-class supercar
That car is aimed directly at the likes of Ferrari, Lamborghini and McLaren
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Exactlyyy
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corvette is cracking their facade
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And it doesn't suffer from the build quality previous gens did
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nah, not where im at
they turn their heads because they think they're looking at a ferrari, lambo, mclaren
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Cuz they could have just thrown in another LT engine (that's the V8 family they use now) to save money
But they didn't
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just being real
so you said you're from michigan, and i'll reciprocate
im from california
that's why they turn their heads
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They developed a completely bespoke engine specifically for this car and shot for the stars
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i'd say it paid off
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You can't deny that this is the hardest Chevy has ever tried
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eh, regardless of how hard they tried, they pulled off a good one with corvette
i have no clue how hard they tried
all i can see is the result
corvette is a head-turner
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Think about it
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tbh, i'd rather see a corvette than a mclaren
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corvette is a head-turner
Not as much the Huracan Technica is
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we're talking personal taste
huracans are common where im at
it's boring
i respect your taste in cars, don't get me wrong
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Have you seen the Technica
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I'm not going to bother
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can you empathize with me at the very least
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i see rich douchebags in lambos and mclarens and whatever
i like seeing someone enjoying a corvette
regardless of year
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You probably know this by now
But I'd rather go to the Woodward Dream Cruise or AutoRama than Pebble Beach or Monterey car week
You probably don't know what I'm talking about do you
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i dunno about car meets outside of gta
no i don't
so one is for rich people and one is for everyone
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These two photos tell you all you need to know about the Woodward Dream Cruise
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that looks fun
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Cruises are a huge thing in Michigan
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ship cruises?
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Cruises are a huge thing in Michigan
In spite of the roads💀
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lol yeah with cars come traffic
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Not even that
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they'll all eventually get to where they need to be
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The roads in Michigan just fucking suck lmao
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oh
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Let me go find some pictures of AutoRama
Which I attended this year, was very cool
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what time of year do they usually go down?
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Woodward Dream Cruise happens in late August
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Define cold
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eh lets not gatekeep cold
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💀
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but it is cold here. lemme look it up
it's 40 right now
im sure it's colder in michigan
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i was just gonna say im sure it's colder in ohio
im a particularly cold region in cali
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I went to Cali for Thanksgiving
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nice
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I did get to meet up with a childhood/scouts friend though
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nice, that's what it's about
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I went to San Diego
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dope
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oh
yeah, sd isn't where you see douchebags driving supercars
you can guess which city where that's the case
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Tbf I live in a pretty nice neighborhood
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To be honest I saw more "nicer" cars back home
.
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I figured
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i asked you to guess
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I was distracted by my food, sorry
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being from LA, you may understand why i enjoy corvettes more than lambos
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Yes
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i don't like rich douchebags
Who does
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other douchebags trying to get rich with networking
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Okay fair
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the culture here is fucked up
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regardless, im happy whenever i see an old corvette on the road. it's not often
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People don't take them out often back home either
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As long as they
You know
Perform the action that the vehicle was oh-so-carefully designed and engineered to do
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which is to drive it
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Exactly
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if you don't mind
Shoot
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oh
i was wondering how you determine how tightly you turn the drain plug
i think mechanics know how to do it by feel
wanted to change my own oil
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It's really hard to overtighten it with your hands
If you over tighten it you can strip the threads
Which, again, if you can manage to do with just your hands, it's about impressive as it is unfortunate
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It's better to use both
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i know there's torque involved
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From what I can fjnd online, finger-tighten it until the plug is snug with the pan and then do like a quarter turn with a wrench or until you feel it really trying to stop
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for sure, but good info
tbh im more concerned about the car falling on my face while i do it lol
im in the newb stage
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That's fair
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You probably know this
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probably dont
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But do NOT only hold the car up via the floor jack
Use jack stands
Unless you're using a lift
Which are... Harder to come by
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the thing is given i only wanna change oil, it's a big upfront cost
but sure, i gotta do all that
jack stands
so i don't get decapitated
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I've done oil on one of our cars before, but it was
A. On a full 2-post lift because the skirts and bumper are too low for the jack at home
B. The car is from 1987 lol
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how's a 1987 car different
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Shit is way less packed together
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is it higher?
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Wdym
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as in you can get under it without a jack
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im asking what this means
There's way more room in the engine bay because there's way less shit in it because there's way less computerized stuff
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No, we still had to go under the car to drain it
That car is fuel injected, which was actually a relevant thing back then
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Yes
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yeah, those days are no more it seems
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But the 2-post lift made it pretty easy anyway
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im sensing you want an 87 camaro
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Nah, never meet your heroes and all that
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not an ls engine
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It's a Chevy small block though
Which is also one of those you-can't-go-wrong things
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i dunno man, 87 camaro looking pretty nice
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as long as it's not chopping your head off
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It won't, it's too blunt lol
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lol because it's old
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Plus Seatbelts had been mandatory for like 20 years by that point
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oh geez lets not debate seatbelts
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No, never
I firmly believe they're the single most important automotive invention of the last 60 or so years
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They patently like half the safety features we have in our cars
But the man who patented the seatbelt is an absolute legend for keeping the patent open
So that companies could use the patent free of charge
I don't know how anyone could debate that seatbelts are useless considering the amount of evidence that we have to the contrary
Not to get political but
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not political
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That wasn't the right word
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potentially divisive?
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I suppose
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i agree it was a solid by volvo
can't be too nice though. they've done enough for the public good
seatbelts
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Correct
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im on pc 😦
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seatbelts
Rear-facing child seat
Booster cushion
Integrated booster cushion
Side impact protection system
Whiplash protection system
Rollover protection system
Blindspot monitoring
Pedestrian auto brake
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Rear-facing child seat
Booster cushion
Integrated booster cushion
Side impact pr...
are all those free?
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Those are Volvo's safety innovations
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it's a good list
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are all those free?
I mean we see a lot of them in lots of cars, so
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Or maybe they left the patents open
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that would be cool
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Which I wouldn't be surprised by
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they are scandinavian
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I've always thought of Volvo as one of the most benevolent car companies out there
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scandinavians are super nice
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I've always thought of Volvo as one of the most benevolent car companies out the...
they definitely are
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Plus I just think they make good cars
I know that the 240 is super old but
I still like them
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they do
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Plus some of them sound spectacular
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they're in the upper range in the states, but they're good cars
might not be literal tanks anymore though
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what car is that
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the sound doesn't match the video
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Is the lack of backfire throwing you off
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nah the lack of acceleration paired with the lack of noise
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Or does it just sound too good
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sound is good. i just think there was a video editing error
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nah the lack of acceleration paired with the lack of noise
It's straight piped
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sound is good. i just think there was a video editing error
That is unedited footage
I'm listening to it on my phone's speakers and the acceleration and sounds match up pretty well
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God I wish my maverick sounded like that☠️
I wonder if anyone has coyote swapped a maverick yet
Time to do some funny math
Alright, I must go
Great talking with you though @steady cipher
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Great talking with you though <@1040626013987688479>
great talking with you too
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🤝
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Those are Volvo's safety innovations
volvo and saab are definitely amazing brands
I mean volvo watered down because and saab's no more
but their older second hand models are still great
the only big cars I would ever consider owning
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They were originally a plane company so that makes sense I guess, I didn't know they still did planes
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That's their main thing
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_JAS_39_Gripen
damn, this doesn't look like a reskinned Chevy
this can't be a real Saab
mint plank
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main cosmos
Found a steal
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I hate car posts with snapchat filters
uncut saddle
Honey I shrunk the car
hybrid charm
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/438650836940357633/1052829833958281256/...
Lol
I like that she/he didn't reverse until it stopped spilling
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This is really satisfying because nobody potential got hurt and the car didn't get wrecked but the absolute dumbass got karma served to them still
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Rocket league moment
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Rocket league moment
fr
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is that the bumblebee camaro?
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is that the bumblebee camaro?
Yes
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It sounds really good too but I don't have any videos of it
You're gonna have to take my word for it
Or don't, I guess
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This was AutoRama, too
One of the biggest aftermarket shows in the states
And it was in the cradle of the American car industry
Or a ghost town, whichever description you prefer
(Detroit)
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sounds like a fun event
honestly i've never been to a car show, but i know it's good vibes
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I got in a few hours earlier then everyone else because I went with my auto shop class; it was education day or something so students got in awhile before everyone else
So I got to walk around the whole place without any crowds or anything
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that's cool that they do that
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The place was HUGE
Sorry for the shit frames, compression is a bitch sometimes
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that mustang on the left caught my eye
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I'll see if I have pictures of it
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you don't have to
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Nahnahnah
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just have a soft-spot for old mustangs
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just have a soft-spot for old mustangs
One second
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my favorite is foxbody late 80's early 90's mustang
it's the plainest mustang they've ever produced but i love it
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god damn
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Some of the builds here were absolutely insane
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that's not eleanor is it?
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No
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the grey one in the middle
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Eleanor was a GT500, not a KR
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the grey one in the middle
Don't think so
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some beautiful cars
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Some of the builds here were absolutely insane
And I'm not talking like massive blower, stripped out interiors and big slicks at the back
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it's cool that detroit is a haven for american automotives
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Like builds that are perfectly clean down to the fitment of the headlights to the body
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An Evo build to kill god
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mitsubishi evo?
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Yes
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Like builds that are perfectly clean down to the fitment of the headlights to th...
They put mirrors under the cars so you can see what the underside of the engine bay and body look like
That's how in-depth some of the builds here are
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im guessing those tubes mean turbo
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Hold on
The turbo is visible; it's that turbine looking thing at the very front of the engine
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what're those tubes that point upward
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The thing I circled is the turbo
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gotcha
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was that before the release?
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This was in February
And they only got around to delivering the first production Z06's within like the last month
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nice
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lol is that a fucking engine?
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An engine with a mirror on the floor
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yeah, that's too much