transportation

[covert dragon]

i dont think thats how it works

my malaysian uncle has a 2007 e class the screen still works

[final robin]

I mean companies are already fiddling with the thought of putting transmission on screen

[covert dragon]

tesla already did

[final robin]

Exactly

[covert dragon]

regardless of how good the screen is, it should be required by law that essential features like transmission should still have a physical option

[final robin]

Imo all primary and secondary controls should be physical

[covert dragon]

i think if the manufacturer want to put these on touchscreen its fine, but essential ones should still have physical even if its available on touchscreen

[final robin]

Volume, AC, Music, seat settings etc are secondary controls that has to be physical

Ok tertiary stuff like position of hud is better without separate buttons

[covert dragon]

thats not very essential but i agree manufacturers need to put them physical until the car can drive themselves fully

i think it should be both touchscreen and physical

[final robin]

True

Till like 2017 the harmony was great

Then we complained about the screens not being good enough

[covert dragon]

which is true tho

but i think not everything should be on screen

[final robin]

Now the screens are better but we've lost physical control

[covert dragon]

yea they should still keep physical buttons

[final robin]

Exactly

The current 5 series has a good balance

[covert dragon]

i agree

[final robin]

I'm sure they'll fuck it up with the new idrive in the next one coming next year

[covert dragon]

the previous generation s class is fine too

[final robin]

Yas

[covert dragon]

i think its the quality that needs to improve tho

[final robin]

Thats why i love that gen

It still had physical buttons still v8 and v12 options

[covert dragon]

we are probably getting a new E class when the COE for our current car expires, and its sad that we will probably get the new design

[final robin]

Try the bimmer

Honestly its the best bmw rn

[covert dragon]

wtf is that

[final robin]

[covert dragon]

im a car enthusiast but not that level

[covert dragon]

oh you are referring to the 5 series?

yeah we might get that

but it seems like the c class still have some physical buttons

[final robin]

Sadly the petrol 530 is a 4 cyl

[covert dragon]

some below the screen

[covert dragon]

we don’t really care about engine

the speed limit here is 90

[final robin]

M540i has a b58

[covert dragon]

we drive some Cat A shit car so we don’t really give a fuck about engines

all cat a cars are 130 bhp or below and 1.6L or below

[proper elbow]

That must be hard. I'm sorry.

[final robin]

Those are so finicky tho
I've seen them flex all around

And the capacitive touch buttons on the steering wheel are so annoying I've heard

[covert dragon]

are all the controls available thru steering wheel thi

[final robin]

Not really

And because its so sensitive you'll accidentally skip to next song when you turning

[covert dragon]

bruh

they should have options for sensitivity

maybe thats why physical buttons are still better

[final robin]

Every company has learned capacitive touch on the wheel is a stupid idea

Vw killed a lot of golf sales because of this

[covert dragon]

does the 2023 models still have that issue

[final robin]

Yes i think

[covert dragon]

bruh

mercedes should change em to physical

[final robin]

A lot of people will get wowed by the tech and still buy them

[covert dragon]

here used e class (PARF ones) are more expensive than new e class if you calculate by price per COE year remaining

[covert dragon]

well we always test drive the car

we will just go to the local authorised retailer here

but then buy from importers

[final robin]

Hmm

[covert dragon]

ain’t going to let them earn a lot if money from us

[covert dragon]

dude the prices from importers are 2/3 the prices of the greedy authorised retailer

and the car price is expensive here

[final robin]

Fair enough

[covert dragon]

importers here have limited models here

and im not sure if they allow test drive

we will probably buy the base variant

i like the exclusive tho

[final robin]

Aah all the goodies is paid

[covert dragon]

importers: limited models, colours, trim, 2/3 the price of cycle and carriage
cycle&carriage: many models, colours and trim

[final robin]

Thats ur economy ig

[covert dragon]

SGD 239K for E200 Sports from importers
SGD 353K for E200 from Cycle&Carriage
thats the price yesterday tho, today theres COE bidding and the COE prices went up like crazy so the prices will change

[old sedge]

Reshared from another server...

[jagged sentinel]

Man I will never get bored of that sound
https://youtube.com/shorts/IftWmXlCs8Q?feature=share

[sage roost]

I once had the delight of hearing that sound in person

Sound so good it could cure pain

[heady swift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGVQQcSBXb8&ab_channel=BSport

[covert dragon]

which model is this

[final robin]

Ghost, previous gen

[jagged sentinel]

Bru

Why

Fuck it

The link is blocked for whatever reason

Just in case you don't trust me

[final robin]

[mint plank]

toilet bomb

Yes, this is real

https://www.google.com/amp/s/theaviationgeekclub.com/time-u-s-navy-1h-skyraider-dropped-toilet-bomb-north-vietnam/

[kind osprey]

it's a bot we have I think it is because the video has a discord invite within the description

so it is picking that link up because the bot is hypersensitive

[final robin]

https://youtu.be/jSomWpdZu4M
Pre big grille audis

[covert dragon]

SGD 1 million excluding COE

[final robin]

Aah get a w12

Plug in hybrid isn't that great on this car
Or most cars

[jagged sentinel]

Ah

It isn't a discord link, it's a link to a bitly sale site

There's a period between bit and ly but you knew that

[covert dragon]

https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/life-culture/bmw-launches-its-new-7-series-with-a-snazzy-lifestyle-programme

ugly

[kind osprey]

Ew

What the actual fuck

[jagged sentinel]

My thoughts exactly

[final robin]

I put regular lights and lowered the hoodline; looks much better but much older at the same time

[hard bough]

👍

Sick drawing my dude

[kind osprey]

holy shit, why don't they hire you

you can draw

I really need to learn how to do that, that's insane

[shadow valve]

Beautiful

[kind osprey]

Even this render with the split headlights still looks better

crap I lost the photo

[covert dragon]

i nearly failed my art

[wheat mica]

Anyone here seen a Koenigsegg Regera, Agera, or Jesko

[heady swift]

yeah, why

[wheat mica]

I wanna see one one day.

[hybrid charm]

What does Awooga mean

[kind osprey]

All of the above, I've never seen a Pagani though

Pagani is the last like big hypercar I have to check out in person

[final robin]

I saw an f12 in like 17'

Thats about it really

Perks of being third world

[heady swift]

saw a few at the geneva autoshow a few years ago

[kind osprey]

Yea you got the good shows over there

I wanna go to one of those one day

[heady swift]

they showed the zonda with the wheel arches and the huayra roadster

liked those more than the agera rs and regera

[kind osprey]

Omg you got to see the 1 of 3 zonda?

Those are like $18mil

[heady swift]

the exposed and coloured carbon is absolutely beautiful in person

[heady swift]

yeah the blue one

[kind osprey]

[heady swift]

the blue barchetta

not sure if it's the one that crashed

[kind osprey]

Oh yea I saw that, thats was so fucking sad like damn a literal third of these cars gone if they can't fix that thing

I feel like it's repairable though

Ik 2 people who don't want it to be... the other 2 owners lmao

[wheat mica]

Pagani huayra is the way to go.

[kind osprey]

I prefer the zonda design wise

Idk if the huayra handles better or feels better to drive

[final robin]

Zonda is manual making it 20x cooler

[kind osprey]

They are all manual, or have options to be

The huayra is just sequential

[final robin]

Sequential<manual

[kind osprey]

Sequential is manual

But I assume you mean gated > sequential

[final robin]

3 pedal

[kind osprey]

Which may be true for fun canyon roads I guess but for racing and drifting sequential is better

They all have three pedals

[final robin]

Oh yea yea

Still gated>

Sequential as in dogleg rt

Not dual clutch

[kind osprey]

Yea dual clutch is the one commonly with paddle shifters

Those are faster and easier to use

So that's why most supercars moved over to it

[final robin]

Yea
I dont really like sequential it feels like you're breaking something evertime you change the gear

[kind osprey]

There are very satisfying especially when they are huge

Like those big ass shifters

[final robin]

Besides sequential only really helps prevent money shifting i think

[kind osprey]

They are mostly in race cars

[final robin]

Or is it mechanically faster

[kind osprey]

Like race race not a single one street legal cars

[final robin]

Yes yes

[kind osprey]

I'm not sure but they are used more for those applications

Gated is fun road car shifting

[final robin]

I assume the time to shift in manual and sequential is same cause hand motions are same

[kind osprey]

Sequential is probably a bit faster

But you can't control what gear you wanna go in instantly

You have to go through the gears

[final robin]

Yea probably

Like in road its not really an issue

[kind osprey]

Sequential for road use would be redundant, but it's in very mechanical cars like Pagani's

[final robin]

But ig if u know the track and the car manual is a wee bit faster because you can shift from 5th to 2nd directly

I was playing nfs mw recently i found myself loosing time in hard turns

[kind osprey]

If you need to go from 5th to second in one gear change sounds like somethings a bit wrong

[final robin]

U turns

[kind osprey]

If you make a u turn on a track somethings a bit wrong

[final robin]

Its a videogame

In an actual track yes

track cars have like the turning radius of a bus anyways for stability

[final robin]

Americans' idea of an eco friendly car

[kind osprey]

In order to make ev's like this and the hummer their batteries have to be huge since they have bad aero

Making them heavy and then making them have less range

[final robin]

Murica
Pretty decent looking tho

[kind osprey]

Yea it's nice to see it looks pretty normal

[final robin]

Unlike a certain manufacturer's idea of a pickup

[kind osprey]

Bubble ev's that solely focus on aero don't appeal to everyone but with an ev aero is a lot more crucial than it is in a gas car

Because with a gas car you just run out fill up run out fill up

[final robin]

Tbf there's only so much aero u can do with a huge hole in the back

[kind osprey]

In order to make ev's work to fight what theu are trying to fight, people need to keep their cars for longer or have them driving around for a lot longer whether it is different owners

[final robin]

Yes

[kind osprey]

Ev's have a massive carbon footprint to create but potentially zero when being operated if the source of power is not from a co2 producing thing

Like a power plant

But it usually always is

[final robin]

Exactly
A used corolla is more efficient unless you travel a million miles (on renewable energy sources)

[kind osprey]

Over a million miles the ev regardless of size and shape will offset and create less emissions

[vestal garnet]

And EV's are much easier to maintain and service than ICE

[kind osprey]

For example it would take driving a tesla model x for 6 years to offset it's emission from being created compared to a gas car being created and driven daily

[kind osprey]

Until batteries fail

Yea everything else is better to maintain

But those suck ass

[vestal garnet]

Nothing much to service in an ev except wheel rotation/allignment,battery and motor

[final robin]

Yes
This is the issue i have with crossovers too
Mercedes claims their eqs suv has a cd of .22 or something
But cd is just a small part of the equation
Crossovers not only have larger frontal area, they also have larger rear vacuum

[vestal garnet]

Mechanical engineers gonna lose their jobs after ev becomes mainstream:💀

[final robin]

Once batteries get better evs become much superior

[kind osprey]

Ev's already are superior from a daily driver standpoint

[final robin]

Not in my town

[kind osprey]

But long trips and performance still get beat

[final robin]

The household charger will take days to fill up

[vestal garnet]

True

[kind osprey]

The cars themselves are superior but the infrastructure needed is still lacking

[final robin]

Yes and batteries

[kind osprey]

Batteries have come an exponentially long way

Ten years ago people thought ev's were a flop

[final robin]

And still a long way to go

But tbh electric cars isn't the way to save the planet
There are better ways to reduce pollution than not making profits by blaming the consumer

[kind osprey]

Well said

[vestal garnet]

[kind osprey]

We can still have gas race cars and tracks then have ev's be every utility, govenment, or boring npc car. Along with actually focusing on long fast speed rail

[final robin]

Try to make clothes that stay a year like they used to and have a culture of not buying new drip every week, that would reduce the damage by fashion industry by half

[kind osprey]

Yea a lot of it has to do with behavior, as much as it has to do with businesses trying to grow exponentially in a linear world

[final robin]

Yes

We are in the rabbit hole of consumerism

Regular shit doesn't cut it anymore

[hard bough]

Meanwhile I've been wearing the same shirts since 2015

💀

[final robin]

Same

[heady swift]

they already are mainstream here

keep in mind that the phasing our of ICE cars will take another generation or two

plenty of time to accommodate an educational shift for mechanics as well

[heady swift]

eh, modern cars have more tech, which is nice, but also adds many factors

the more factors the more breakage

a lot of modern cars, especially tech savvy ones like BMWs or volvo's, rely on sensors that track the car and its environment

whether it's oil temperature, outside humidity, nearby cars, etc

those sensors often break, leading to your dashboard filling up with red exclamation marks and the insurance company trying to tell you that your two year insurance is invalid because you bought a cup-holder

[vestal garnet]

Considering all the other factors,a traditional combustion engine is still more complicated than an EV

[kind osprey]

Complicated as in It has more moving parts.

But they can still be a headache

[kind osprey]

https://youtube.com/shorts/yxFTwdFLJ5I?feature=share

This looks so cool

[tawny tangle]

How is that cool?

It's too small

[hybrid charm]

Our ambulance are slimmer

[dull siren]

https://youtu.be/34jRFkISmrk

[covert dragon]

same

[heady swift]

Ehhh, they have more mechanical and moving parts, but an electric engine is far more complex

[covert dragon]

probably because singapore roads are smaller than US roads

[covert dragon]

but dont EV need battery replacement

like ik ICE cars need engine replacement

but its not as often

even with brands that arent as reliable

[vestal garnet]

Wdym by electric engine
Or are u talking about motor?

[opal forum]

Probably the only sensible living option in NYC

[heady swift]

Motor here means bike, so I rarely say electric motor

[heady swift]

Yeah, but that's just a swap

[covert dragon]

and they need to dispose the battery

and polluting environment too

[heady swift]

Well, I'd rather have them recycled

[heady swift]

Yup, but ICE cars do that as well

It's a matter of reduction and using public transport

As well as 1000 other measures

[covert dragon]

well personally i would not like to use public transport if i can afford the car

but the government should definitely do something like what singapore is doing

[hybrid charm]

Ours are Mercedes or Citroën

Mercedes really rare

Or Peugeot

[covert dragon]

our ones are all mercedes, at least those i have seen before

here ambulance driver sometimes drive a little too dangerously

i wont forget that time i almost got hit by an ambulance while crossing the traffic light as a pedestrian

even though it was my right of way here ambulances responding to emergency can still go pass red light

[hybrid charm]

This is the inside

[hard bough]

Oh yeah I think I was in a sprinter ambulance once

Was pretty comfy, I fell asleep p much instantly

Until I was waken up and put through some atrocious treatment

[hybrid charm]

I've never been in one

[hard bough]

I mean if you're American or something like that, that's probably for the best

I'm glad I'm german

[hybrid charm]

Greek

[final robin]

https://youtu.be/FcClZx8fseM
I love this car

[covert dragon]

kinda narrow

[heady swift]

yes, but it's better that way

fits easier throw traffic

reaching the patient and bringing them as fast as possible to the hospital is priority

[hybrid charm]

But you have greek drivers that don't allow the ambulance to pass

Our fire trucks are lame

[heady swift]

greek drivers don't allow anyone to pass tbf

[hybrid charm]

Hahaha

Some do

Some accelerate to not let you pass

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMFhSk3Q8/

I must say ouch

That guard rail was strong af

[covert dragon]

yeah i agree

[covert dragon]

in singapore we mostly let emergency vehicles to pass

because you will be fined

if you don’t

[hybrid charm]

Well it's a law here too but

Of course if it's a police car they will let it pass

[covert dragon]

here most expressways have emergency shoulders (fucking tight)

emergency vehicles and cars that break down stay on the shoulders

[hybrid charm]

We have that too

[covert dragon]

if ambulance?

[covert dragon]

then the ambulance should use the shoulders

[hybrid charm]

Well most people do

[covert dragon]

the shoulders here aren’t very wide

thats why

i think in greece it’s much wider

[hybrid charm]

Are you talking about in highways?

[covert dragon]

singapore roads are narrow

[covert dragon]

yes

its 2.5 meters in width

[hybrid charm]

Ye we have a specific lane for that

[covert dragon]

and if you drive to malaysia the checkpoint counters road are like less than 2 meters

[hybrid charm]

That's how wide it is

[covert dragon]

for us its slightly narrower

[hybrid charm]

But people sometimes use it to pass traffic

Cause they are idiots

[covert dragon]

people dont do that here

literally many people dont even use the bus lane when its not in operation

i fucking hate bus lanes

[hybrid charm]

Hahahhaha

We don't even have bus lanes

[covert dragon]

here unless a bus is behind you, you probably will not be fined for using the bus lanes

[hybrid charm]

In some places we do

[covert dragon]

the enforcement for bus lanes is thru the camera installed on the bus

so if no bus passes by or something if you use it you wont get caught

[hybrid charm]

What kind of busses do you have there

[covert dragon]

most are mercedes benz

some i don’t recognise

[final robin]

U have lanes

[covert dragon]

but they are quite nice

[final robin]

Wow

[covert dragon]

they have phone chargers

[covert dragon]

?

[hybrid charm]

We have polaris

[covert dragon]

oh

[hybrid charm]

And Mercedes

[covert dragon]

where is polaris from

[final robin]

Buses here go how they want

[hybrid charm]

And volvos

[covert dragon]

bus lanes are even worse

[hybrid charm]

No sorry it's Solaris

[covert dragon]

what makes the dumb slow 60km/h buses think they deserve a lane dedicated to them while not paying road tax and COE

[covert dragon]

i think we have volvo too

the buses here are either diesel euro 6 or EV

[final robin]

I rather have all busses in one lane tho

[hybrid charm]

In the city where I live there are no volvos

[covert dragon]

even without bus lanes most buses stay on the slowest lane

or the second slowest

[final robin]

They dont here

[covert dragon]

here heavy slow vehicles like trucks and buses keep to the left on the expressway

the right lane is for faster vehicles

[hybrid charm]

We have these and the small version of that

[covert dragon]

there are more cars than buses

also i fucking want to slap whatever cyclist that uses expressways as their cycling track

if you hit them or some shit its your fault

although why are they even there

they dont pay road tax or COE

and these days they even put fake license plates on the back of the bicycle

[hybrid charm]

That's illegal here

[covert dragon]

i dont think it is illegal here

in sentosa the rich people island and some other places they have separate lanes for people to walk, cycle and drive

i think thats quite good

these cyclist can stop blocking the car or risking pedestrians lives

[hybrid charm]

Also we have Skoda Octavias for police cars

[covert dragon]

here idk tbh

[hybrid charm]

Modded

[covert dragon]

what about your taxis

[hybrid charm]

They sometimes shoot flames

[covert dragon]

here its almost all toyota and hyundai

[hybrid charm]

And they are pretty loud

[covert dragon]

there are expensive taxis they are usually like mercedes benz e200

[hybrid charm]

We have mercedes Toyotas skodas nissans

[covert dragon]

are highways in greece well designed

[hybrid charm]

Well

Ye

[covert dragon]

okay so see this

[hybrid charm]

Some parts don't have lights tho

[covert dragon]

in singapore lets say the expressway is going to be divided into two they will put the destination signs long before the actual division

in malaysia they dont have signs until the division part

[hybrid charm]

Same

[covert dragon]

https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-c2d08dba1602fb392befea20dc868b4e.webp

like this

its so annoying

not saying all malaysian highways are like that

but MANY are like that

do the people that design those shit even drove as a new driver

[covert dragon]

in greece too?

if you are a new driver its the most annoying thing that exists

[hybrid charm]

Well they show it but not like that

I can't find it

[covert dragon]

yesterday at the customs they dedicated one lane for some dumb motorcycles

why not have 2 car lanes and the motorcycles can cut in between

[covert dragon]

also because this is singapore almost no one drives into the lane for another vehicle

[hybrid charm]

Like this

[covert dragon]

but in malaysia many people does that

[hybrid charm]

Those are huge signs btw

[covert dragon]

thats what some people do in malaysia

well its smart since its like a 4 hour traffic jam and the fine was only RM 300 thats like USD 60

if you have 4 people in your car

USD 15 per person to save 4 hours

[hybrid charm]

Where is the emergency lane there tho

Like if a ambulance gets caught there rip

[covert dragon]

ambulance dont cross borders bruh

also in malaysia so many signs are in their language knowing that singaporeans love to visit there a lot because almost everything is cheaper there

they should be bothered to put english

at least in the JB area

[hybrid charm]

Oh

I thought that's a normal road

[covert dragon]

why would there be specific lanes for motorcycles, cars, trucks, bus if it’s a normal road

[hybrid charm]

What If a car breaks down there

[covert dragon]

thats a good question

malaysia vehicles that come to singapore are basically going to be paying a lot of taxes

yet we singapore cars entering malaysia only pays toll

[hybrid charm]

Do your cops in motorcycles do wheelies tho

[hybrid charm]

We just pay tolls

The price depends on the place

[covert dragon]

they pay:
SGD 35/day for VEP (waived for 10 days a year)
SGD 6.40 road charge per entry
SGD 5/day for each day they pass thru ERP terminal (unless they already have a IU installed in the car which is unlikely for malaysian vehicles)

[hybrid charm]

I don't remember the prices

[covert dragon]

the salary there is like very little

[hybrid charm]

What kind of bikes do your cops have

Here they even have aprillas

[covert dragon]

idk

they mostly drive cars

[covert dragon]

+any tolls fee at the checkpoint

many malaysians come to singapore for work and then go back after work

you can imagine the disaster during covid

the singapore government removed the rule where Malaysia cars that belong to a non-resident work pass holder must stay outside of singapore for 6 hours until the borders opened again

they also removed the VEP charges

[hybrid charm]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMFhASnFd/

Why cant I download tiktoks bruh

[covert dragon]

they also allowed them to continue to use their malaysian cars in singapore even if they are now a resident of singapore

[covert dragon]

some cant be downloaded

[hybrid charm]

Ah

Did you see it

[covert dragon]

yes

[hybrid charm]

Interesting ay

If we wheelie we dead

[covert dragon]

@hybrid charm

disgusting people like that drive

[hybrid charm]

Here I think 5 years ago a porche was doing like 200+kmh lost control and went into the part of the highway where the are toilets killing a mother and their kids

https://youtu.be/94N9MLRulX8

[covert dragon]

y’all can drive 200?

[hybrid charm]

If there is no police you can even go 500

Hahaha

Mostly there is no police tho

It was a Porsche 911 gt2 btw

240 exactly

That's what the speedo said

Very sad

[covert dragon]

which car can even handle that

here speed limit is 90

a few ppl go 100+

[hybrid charm]

Normally it's 120 here or 80

[covert dragon]

in malaysia the limit is 110

they go 160

[hybrid charm]

Did you see the video

[covert dragon]

its insane

[hybrid charm]

He lost control cause he didn't change his tyres in awhile

The dad was the only one alive cause he was in the toilet

[kind osprey]

the first time I saw a Bugatti in person circa October 2012 (also my first discord pfp)

[covert dragon]

sparkling water man car

[kind osprey]

lol

[kind osprey]

I found another photo from that day

It was Christmas so i think they were going with the theme of white and red

There is also a Spyker in the back that was sick

[covert dragon]

whats this car

[kind osprey]

Alfa Romeo 33 Stradelle, one of the rarest cars nowadays

They are beautiful

[covert dragon]

i wonder if they sell that in singapore

[kind osprey]

They don't sell the car anywhere

I don't think there are any to sell

And if one does go on auction it'll be $10,000,000+

[covert dragon]

for the car itself?

lets assume $10 million

that is SGD 14,152,000

the COE is now SGD 110,000

[kind osprey]

Wait if you buy a 10 million dollar historic car at an auction you'd have to pay $49 million dollars?

They gotta have some exceptions for art pieces and historic race cars

There's no way anybody is paying that much in robbery taxes

[old sedge]

Ugh, I know I wanna own a car in other countries but I'm still scared of automated car wash stations

[kind osprey]

That sounds extremely specific

What does that have to do with being scared to own a car lol

[old sedge]

I've seen how deadly automated car wash can be in Final Destination

I'm scared that I would be trapped inside the car

Never seen one irl

[kind osprey]

One, That's an exaggerated movie, two, you could just, not go into automated car washes xD

[old sedge]

Exaggerated? What are the chances of that happening?

[kind osprey]

The same chances of you being killed by a vending machine

Or Molasses

[old sedge]

Oh wow

[kind osprey]

I'm not gonna say 0% because nothing is, but final destination is a horrible metric of danger

[covert dragon]

you can get a big discount if it is qualified under classic vehicle scheme, but use is limited

https://onemotoring.lta.gov.sg/content/onemotoring/home/buying/vehicle-types-and-registrations/car/classic-car.html

i do see some cars registered under that

they have a special colour plate

[kind osprey]

I don't think anyone who buys that will really us it

Regardless I feel like of you are rich enough to afford that you probably bought it in another country and get to import it as a piece of art or some other loophole

[covert dragon]

45 days is enough

[kind osprey]

It shouldn't go by days it should go by mileage

[covert dragon]

COE and ARF will still be charged, just at a lower rate

[covert dragon]

here its all by day

malaysia cars VEP entering singapore is by day

WEC/OPC/ROPC (restricted use vehicles) can drive during the restricted timing by just paying, and they pay by per day

[urban pond]

Sold my Pulsar today

[final robin]

[serene helm]

really nice

[final robin]

M550i>

[opal forum]

The rear end looks like a lexus

The taillights more specifically

[serene helm]

its an audi whatsoever

[opal forum]

I know that

[final robin]

Its lexus that copied

I don't really like modern plural lexus

Lexuses? Lexi?

[vestal garnet]

Lexsus

[covert dragon]

price of a tesla model 3 here

[covert dragon]

@kind osprey

rich university kids

[kind osprey]

How does anybody afford a car there

[heady swift]

people from rich parents who received money which they used invest in crypto

after their 30th attempt they make profit or their dad just buys a porsche out of spite

[kind osprey]

[final robin]

[covert dragon]

nah the rich here dont really do crypto

mainly housing and stocks

[safe scroll]

Nah, but the riches kids need a front to say they worked for the car (so they don't get called daddy's money) and crypto is the easiest thing to make up, like you can't even see the shit

[azure mortar]

Ill keep my broke ass over here then with my 35 yo set of wheels

[hybrid charm]

Some artworks I did two years ago

[final robin]

noiceee

[old sedge]

I'm still wondering, what's the scientific explanation behind push starting a car with dead battery? I should've asked my physics professor about it.

[proper elbow]

A starters purpose is to get the engine moving/turning over. The motion of the wheels spinning in essence does the same thing. Motor needs to be spinning to begin combustion cycle.

If the ignition system is still functional (doesn't require much power), and the pistons are moving, it'll start

[old sedge]

So the spinning wheels caused by being pushed or rolled downhill can make the engine move to start a cycle? I see, thanks. I've only seen this done to cars with MT though

Never seen this done to cars with any form of AT

[proper elbow]

Well it's more the clutch engagement with the flywheel that kicks everything off, but yeah.

Don't think you can push start an AT. I can't see any way to make that work.

[old sedge]

Idk if it's true but they say that moving an AT while it's neutral damages the transmission whether it's pushed or coasting on neutral while at downhill

[proper elbow]

You can push an AT in neutral but you shouldn't tow in neutral.

[old sedge]

I thought the only reason why AT shouldn't be towed is because most of them are shifted to P which will damage the parking pin?

[proper elbow]

If the engine isn't running there isn't any fluid being pumped through the transmission, so no lubrication/cooling. Pushing a car is much less impactful than moving at speed/for long distances.

[old sedge]

Oooh

[jagged sentinel]

Are Jake brakes legal in Ph

[old sedge]

What are jake brakes?

Oh, this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compression_release_engine_brake

Never heard of this

So it's not the brakes buses and trucks use which produce hissing sounds

[proper elbow]

Jake brakes sound heavenly lol

[jagged sentinel]

It's a very noisy type of engine brake

[proper elbow]

Used to live near a freeway and would hear it all the time

[jagged sentinel]

I heard one for the first time yesterday

No, two days ago

Some guy Jake braked all the way down the street I was on

[proper elbow]

Loud af

[jagged sentinel]

https://youtu.be/2adjvWmbzGU

[jagged sentinel]

It doesn't work like actual brake discs/drums work

[old sedge]

Some of these sounds sound like helicopter rotors

[jagged sentinel]

Jake brakes are illegal in most places in the US

[old sedge]

This is my first time hearing about Jake brakes

And most trucks here aren't as big or massive as trucks in the US

[jagged sentinel]

Roads over there aren't the greatest right

[old sedge]

Yeah

I think the only American semi-truck/truck cab I've seen in real life in Ph is the old Navistar International 9800

It has a great engine sound

[jagged sentinel]

Something about absolutely colossal diesel engines and their sound is just

I wonder if Dakar trucks have Jake Brakes

Probably not

[old sedge]

This is the common huge trucks here, smaller than most huge trucks in the US
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isuzu_Giga

And these are the trucks Shell and Caltex often used here in Ph
https://motowheeler.com/ph/truck/volvo-fm-440-3677
https://motowheeler.com/ph/truck/volvo-fh-520-puller-3672

[magic pebble]

saw these in the parking lot

[kind osprey]

Noce

That blue is gorgeous

[hybrid charm]

Bruh Italian (lambo) is shit JDM is the king

@magic pebble @kind osprey

[kind osprey]

12 year old spotted

"The 90's shitbox with the cool wing can beat that lambo, as long as it is paired with completely swapped interals and $100,000 in modifications"

Now my eco box can beat all the Lamborghini's while not being able to steer in the process

[old sedge]

I think a maxed out Nissan Skyline R34 won't even beat a basic stock AMG performance car let alone Lambo

Not to mention maxing out a JDM will cost a lot more than the car itself

[kind osprey]

I love the design of the jdm icons but people who think they are objectively better in performance than something like a Lamborghini are out of their fucking minds

[magic pebble]

lmao i just saw the what i think is an urus in the back

[old sedge]

Maybe it will cost as a Lambo only to feel like a turtle if raced against Lambos

[kind osprey]

I'm not paying $250,000 for a supra

That's defeats the purpose of what made the supra cool

It was cheap performance

[old sedge]

JDMs are good, I believe it but their time in the spotlight is over long ago

They're relics nowadays in terms of performance

[proper elbow]

Fun fact - in Japan the new Toyota Supras are selling for MSRP

[kind osprey]

We flying to japan bois

[old sedge]

How much would that be?

[proper elbow]

50-60k depending on trim iirc

[kind osprey]

A new supra z4 is like $50,000

[old sedge]

Oh

Still a good price

[kind osprey]

They make a 4 cylinder one

That's a bit cheaper

[old sedge]

So that's why

In the US, the Supra with a $55,250 price is I6 twin-turbo, right?

[kind osprey]

I don't know of that have any forced induction

[old sedge]

If I'm not mistaken, the Supra GR's I6 engine is twin-turbocharged but I could be wrong

[proper elbow]

It is

[kind osprey]

It's not twin

It's just one I think

[proper elbow]

Wait isn't the 2.0l a sequential turbo setup?

[old sedge]

Oh wait

I think the 2.0 I4 is the twin-scroll turbocharged

[proper elbow]

3.0 is a twin scroll

[kind osprey]

The 6 was a twin turbo in the 90's supra

[proper elbow]

Looks like both 2.0 and 3.0 are twin scroll

[kind osprey]

Oh well fuck all these websites

[old sedge]

For some reason, I feel like the 3.0 engine's hp is kind of too low for a twin-scroll turbocharged, especially that it's I6

[kind osprey]

I never cared about this car I'll look at it in detail later

[kind osprey]

Isn't like 380?

That sounds right for the class

And price

[proper elbow]

It makes high 300 ho

That's a lot of power

[kind osprey]

The nissan competition makes 400

So right around the ballpark

[proper elbow]

Age of social media has taught kids that if you don't have 1000 hp you're slow. A 400hp car is a fast car.

[old sedge]

I was thinking that it could be higher than the Mustang's V8 Coyote engine?

[kind osprey]

A 400hp sports car is very fast, but nowadays 400hp stock in a heavy suv or a pickup feels like 100hp in a sedan lol

[jagged sentinel]

The coyote in the 22 mustang makes around 465 horsepower iirc

[kind osprey]

Why would it be higher than a more expensive muscle car

They are built for power only

Cheap power not much else

Theh do have a track mustang which is pretty cool though

[old sedge]

Wait, a Supra is cheaper than Mustang?

[jagged sentinel]

Even though it weighs a bit much

[kind osprey]

High trim Mustangs can be a lot more than $60k

[old sedge]

Oh

But how about stocks?

And non-Shelby

[kind osprey]

?

Oh still over 60k

[jagged sentinel]

Like standard GTs?

[old sedge]

Yes

And convertible GTs

[kind osprey]

Gts can be like 50 probably

[old sedge]

It's strange

[kind osprey]

Another car I can't care about

[old sedge]

Here, Supra is a lot more expensive than a standard Mustang GT

[jagged sentinel]

The 2022 Ford Mustang GT Premium starts at 43k according to google

[kind osprey]

Supras and base v8 mustangs are probably around the same price range

[jagged sentinel]

The mustang Mach 1 starts at 55

[old sedge]

Mustang GT V8 Convertible AT here costs 3,718,000 pesos while a Toyota Supra GR 3.0 here costs 4,990,000 pesos

Mustang GT V8 Convertible AT is the most expensive non-Shelby Mustang here

[jagged sentinel]

Do they not sell the Mach 1 where you are?

Or are convertibles way more expensive for no reason

[old sedge]

I don't think so

I don't know what the Mach 1

So I'll send the link and brochure here

So you guys can see

https://www.ford.com.ph/performance/mustang/

Is this Mach 1?

[jagged sentinel]

No

[old sedge]

Mach 1 is more expensive?

[jagged sentinel]

Mach 1 isn't present in the brochure

[old sedge]

I mean, should Mach 1 be more expensive than the ones in the brochure in general, not just here in Ph?

[old sedge]

Oh, looks really good

[kind osprey]

Is the mach 1 a limited model that isn't sold this year?

[final robin]

This
An e36 325i with pre vanos 190 or something hp is plenty fast enough, you don’t need more

[jagged sentinel]

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2008-jaguar-xj-super-v8-3/

I mean

For that price

That's a lot

[kind osprey]

That interior looks dealer clean holy crap

holy shit that's why it looks so clean

[jagged sentinel]

6 grand for that

[kind osprey]

My guess it's gonna sell for like 12-15k

[jagged sentinel]

I'm expecting at least 10

At least

[hybrid charm]

Lol

[hybrid charm]

Civic stage 5 beats lambo

[hybrid charm]

If both cars r tuned Jdm can beat easily any car

[kind osprey]

ah yes eco car with stage five tune and 6 figures in new internals can beat an all around luxury performance car that does things from factory

who woulda thought

how does that make a Lamborghini or Ferrari shit exactly

[heady swift]

eh

beat in what

[kind osprey]

drag

that's the only thing it can properly do

some are good at time attack but you can't really compare a Luxury supercar to a completely modified car that when stock is slow as shit

if we were to use the same logic and stage 5 a Huracan shove some turbos and watch it roll the thing would go 250mph on a dime

I love both of these types of cars but the delusion of them being performance equals with some elbow grease is absurd

[jagged sentinel]

If the most important statistic in a race is the quarter mile the the origin country becomes completely fucking irrelevant

A funny car will obliterate your beloved R34

[kind osprey]

Lol

[urban pond]

i like Japanese cars but this is the dumbest statement i've read all week

[hard bough]

My mossy golf 3 can beat lambos 😎😎😎 because it has a fucking jetplane engine switch 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪

Yes it falls apart the second you hit the gas pedal

But that's okay because as long as one part of the car manages to arrive before the lambo, I win

[old sedge]

I like how jdm fanboys always overrate jdms only to be disappointed when they find out that jdm performances don't live up to their exaggerated expectations

[kind osprey]

I like light agile cars focused on handling

the old NSX is an amazing jdm

I just hate when people think you can just put 1000hp in a shitbox and proceed to just race 2 million dollar hypercars because you watched too much Fast and Furious

[old sedge]

Reminds me of how someone got mad at me because I said the Toyota AE86 is overrated largely because of Initial D despite being true since there are cars Takumi beat in that anime which are faster than his in real life

The "Takumi Tax" which raised that car's value is ridiculous imo

[old sedge]

What's even funnier is a friend did say that he has a JDM fanboy friend who thinks only JDMs can be tuned and then he brought that friend to a tune shop where American and European performance cars are being tuned and he was really surprised

[kind osprey]

at least he learned

[old sedge]

That's true

But it was said that many act like that

[old sedge]

Especially that a 1990s Supra would probably be as expensive as a Porsche or even Lambo now

[kind osprey]

Mk4 supras in good condition can fetch high 5 figures and low 100k marks

Then you have to spend a fortune modding them

[old sedge]

Its current price is far off track from its purpose now

[kind osprey]

Mhm

5 years ago you could find a decent one for like $35000

[old sedge]

I was thinking, if only we bought a Nissan Skyline during the 2000s, we could be "rich" by now

But at the same time, who's gonna buy one now?

[urban pond]

my friends brother bought an R32 GTR for like 62k with 100k km and even then thats ridiculous

[old sedge]

Oh wow

[kind osprey]

What country?

[urban pond]

Canada

[kind osprey]

$62,000 for an r32 is highway robbery unless that thing had like less than 10,000 miles and was completely stock

R32's go for like $18000-$35000

Usd

[old sedge]

It's his fault tbh. What do I call buying it for that amount? Donating to charity

[urban pond]

this is the exact one he bought

with tax equaled up to around 60k ish still a stupid amount for the car

[kind osprey]

So $39,000 usd

A bit high for an r32 still but idk anything about Canada

Maybe they are rarer there

[old sedge]

I thought Canada has lower taxes on cars than the US?

[urban pond]

probably rarer due to less population

[old sedge]

Afaik, Mustangs are cheaper in Canada than even in the US

[urban pond]

canada has a 13 Percent for cars?

cause my GR is 42k before tax and im just a little over 50k total

[kind osprey]

Corolla?

[urban pond]

86

[kind osprey]

Oh cool

[urban pond]

The only GR Corolla coming to my city was already spoken for

And speaking of the skyline I forgot my friends brother fucked up the front bumper

[kind osprey]

Holy shit he just bought it and the that happened?

I'd be so pissed

[urban pond]

this was a while ago

bout a year ago i think

hes had the skyline for some time

yeah that picture is from 2021

its a nice car but i found it was a very uncomfortable fit

[kind osprey]

Does he have after market seats in it?

[urban pond]

OEM

the car originally came with a Momo Steering wheel but he got the OEM one put in too

I would have stuck with the momo one personally because the OEM one is fucking massive

[kind osprey]

what a low speedometer

Japan really out here thinking we'd believe that

lmao

we all know that thing goes much faster than that

[old sedge]

What will happen to the speedometer once the car reaches like 250km/h?

[urban pond]

Probably just tops out at 180kmh on the speedometer

[delicate grotto]

@honest herald @final robin somewhere, somehow, last night my car got sent to the backrooms

[honest herald]

Someone stole it?

[delicate grotto]

Nah I mean I got out of work to see my shit in an abandoned parking lot

[honest herald]

Ooohhhh

[final robin]

oi its not that bad of a car

[heady swift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDYX0njYHQI&ab_channel=19Bozzy92

[kind osprey]

Oooo

[sage roost]

Good that it’s in Paul Ricard

nowhere to crash it

[heady swift]

speaking of endurance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1-dyFpalyc&ab_channel=19Bozzy92

lmdh and lmh came at a good time, since sportscar manufacturers need to phase into hybrids

[old sedge]

Alpine and Glickenhaus really need to build hybrid hypercars but I doubt they will. Glickenhaus even withdrew from 6h of Fuji for cost concerns

[old sedge]

I met a schoolmate who's a JDM fan but he does admit the JDM's limitations and performance as they are

[magic pebble]

saw some more today

that black one was there too

i just couldnt get it in the pic

[old sedge]

Are these yours? Wow

[magic pebble]

no

lol they arent mine

they are rentable tho

[proper elbow]

I'll take that white SWB Pajero behind the yellow Lambo.

[magic pebble]

that one was on the street lmao

dk if it was passing by or not

im posting these cuz i dont see luxury cars where i live

i find joy in seeing exotic cars

so i thought i should share

[kind osprey]

Keep em coming if you find more 💯

[jagged sentinel]

That was a fucking Volvo☠️

[kind osprey]

It's gus from Breaking Bad

[covert dragon]

holy shit

[kind osprey]

Guess the car

[covert dragon]

no idea lmaoo

[kind osprey]

My guess is Aston Martin

[final robin]

Dbx? Or the dude’s a shorty

[safe scroll]

Godamn, M3's are something else

My car shouldn't sound like that should it?

Piece of shit is misfiring again

[hybrid charm]

Ye I think that is it

The 2021 model

Those hood vents look the same

Or the 2022

Ye that is it

Actually he has the 2021 model cause it doesn't have the carbon fiber in the dash

The 2022 has it

[final robin]

[final robin]

Quadrofugly-o

Hayra

Thank god the rest of the swedish companies use alphanumeric names

V70 would be middensyzestaizonwaagen

[jagged sentinel]

Either that or Koenigsegg's door mechanism name💀

Dihedral Synchro-Helix Actuation Doors

[kind osprey]

yes lmao

That's even better

[spark ore]

hi

[jagged sentinel]

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2023-dodge-srt-charger-challenger-srt-jailbreak/

They do not give a fuck anymore

And I'm here for it

[gusty roost]

What the fuck?

[safe scroll]

Let's be real, half the hellcat owners are destined for prison, the other half are "the Corvette owner stereotype".

Either old, or an up and coming rapper

[kind osprey]

The charger is for most of the rappers

For some reason

[safe scroll]

Most of the soundcloud rappers

[dry sage]

[final robin]

Rice

[winged geyser]

10/10

i dig it

[crimson kayak]

Omg is that a Supra?

[winged geyser]

no, it's a bmw z4

[magic pebble]

ignore the shit quality of the pics

[kind osprey]

It looks like the nissan Skyline gtr LM

With those wide flares

[dry sage]

Deffo seeing some GT500 inspo.

[gusty roost]

Yo, what do you think?

[old sedge]

Uhh

If a bus and truck with AT break down, then how do they tow those?

[urban pond]

Dodge owners when they can’t bother to take off their ugly splitter guards

[small robin]

I never wanna go on the subway in Chicago again

It smells like piss

[kindred sand]

2 cars from this weekends drift comp

[kindred sand]

S15

[final robin]

cool

but also rice

[gusty roost]

Taxi

[final robin]

lowkey cool tho

she still running after all these years

[gusty roost]

Yeah, and i love that thick wheels

[rancid current]

my transportation 🥷

[final robin]

oo nice

guilia my beloved

[long wyvern]

Just got sent this @final robin

[hybrid charm]

Rip

[final robin]

noooooo

[final robin]

https://youtube.com/user/wopandp me likey

[errant hazel]

amazing

as long as it runs

[gusty roost]

Thanks, i have 2 more customized cars that i took a photo when i saw them

A bit customized

Taxi

[errant hazel]

1 or 2 inch lifted?

[gusty roost]

I calculated 1 in the front and 1,5 in the back wheels

[errant hazel]

nice

how much whp?

for off-roading

[gusty roost]

That data i don't know

But i traveled in that taxi and i felt the speed

Btw, it has nice acceleration

[errant hazel]

get a good drivetrain

that helps

a straightpipe drivetrain

even if they are $$$ pricy

[gusty roost]

that Taxi only needed to have a spoiler to be Drifting type

[errant hazel]

oh

[gusty roost]

Or a Rally Livery too

[errant hazel]

i like rally more

makes me modify cars more

specially a van thats not meant to be off-road.

😂

[gusty roost]

That's true,

[magic pebble]

random cars i saw today and yesterday

[long wyvern]

The last 2 look like gta cars

[magic pebble]

yea lmao

[covert dragon]

holy

[hybrid elbow]

that 765lt 😍😍

[kind osprey]

Who pays $400,000 for a Lamborghini sto and says, “yea lemme get that shit in booger green and orange”

[woven dew]

That guy

[final robin]

look up the comment section for the bmw m760e vid
rich people dont have taste

[final robin]

i have the hex for the color in the r8

[storm stone]

All I can say is it looks like an ad campaign for a shitty energy drink

[final robin]

montain jizz

[kind osprey]

People would 100% drink that

[storm stone]

🤢

[trim kite]

OMG its the cars from fortnite !!!!!

[opal forum]

Where did you took those pics?

[magic pebble]

dubai

:)

[meager cedar]

Guys

Is there anyone good with classic cars?

What's this car called?

It looks similar to the 1935 Duesenberg II Model SJ Torpedo Phaeton

[kind osprey]

it definitely looks very Duesenberg looking

[meager cedar]

Ikr

Could be a model J

I'm just not sure which one it could be, not good with classic cars

[kind osprey]

Yea cars back then all had the look, in that era of the automobile all they were were a bunch of horseless carriages

So now concern for aerodynamics, safety, sporty nature

They all kinda just went for styling

[old sedge]

Oh yes, classic cars probably still have same radios and features such as fans or ac no matter what brand, no fancy features like dual or triple zone ac, large touchscreen displays, e-parking brakes, etc

[kind osprey]

AC was 1931, and radio was early 50's

this car rocketman posted was before both those years

[jagged sentinel]

We can thank the Swedes for car safety as we know it

[kind osprey]

Volvo did have a big help in improving restraint devices and many other important things

One of the biggest effective pieces that helped make cars safer was a book that was made back in the 60's exposing how horrible Chevy was

about defects they knew were there but were too greedy and dickish to fix

it was the edward snowden of car safety

[jagged sentinel]

I mean Volvo patented half the safety shit present in cars today

And massive props to them for keeping 90% of said inventions' patents open

[old sedge]

What attracts people here in buying Geely cars is Geely's ownership of more than half of Volvo

[meager cedar]

No it seems to be from 1932 i guess

[night steeple]

I have plans to get a w123 merc, and semi-daily it (the 200e, not a diesel model)

is it a really bad idea or its fine? one way or another im getting something really old, a merc, a volvo brick, or a first gen civic, something like that

I have basic maintenance experience i.e. oil changes and basic wiring knowledge on my 90s car

[vestal garnet]

Civic imo

[kind osprey]

Unless you live in Germany, stay away fron German cars if you are on a budget or it's your first car

[vestal garnet]

Also why do u want a 90s car

[kind osprey]

Unless you are really good friends with a German specialist mechanic

[vestal garnet]

Lol

[kind osprey]

I just want my is300 fuck these prices going up

Could this chip shortage bullshit happen after I bought my car

Like fucking for real

[night steeple]

its not 90s its older than that xd
the w123 is like 70s

I want something cool and classic thats affordable

[vestal garnet]

Saying Chip shortage is the reason for price hike is total bs

[kind osprey]

Why would you want such as old car especially as a daily

[night steeple]

I already have my current shitbox that runs and drives, something I can semi daily is a good idea

[kind osprey]

That sounds horrible

[night steeple]

cause cool
i understand the horrors of maintaining it

[kind osprey]

You got a real reason?

Hundreds of thousands of car not being able to be sold sounds like a solid reason to me

..

[night steeple]

I already have a 90s car, and getting something from the 00s or 10s is a lil mainstream, something rare-r than normal is what im gunning for
hell a galant wagon from the 80s popped up

[kind osprey]

Not like they raised because of an egg shortage 💀

[kind osprey]

You're going to sacrifice comfort and safety to be a hipster?

[vestal garnet]

Car manufacturers are trying to create artificial shortages to jack up the prices

[kind osprey]

Never heard mainstream said innthe decision of purchasing a car

[night steeple]

welcome to your first time hearing about it lol

[kind osprey]

Ah so a conspiracy theory...

[night steeple]

its either those or an old beetle, those are barely affordable, but possible

[vestal garnet]

Get a Lexsus

[kind osprey]

How are old beetle barely affordable those little shits are like $5 and a snickers bar in Mexico

[night steeple]

i caaaant, lexi are out of the price range

[vestal garnet]

Sed

[night steeple]

they're getting pricier over here, and the old minis too

[kind osprey]

They made millions of beetles

[vestal garnet]

But atleast they're much more reliable than Merc

[night steeple]

I tried a mini and vw but they're slightly out of my reach

[kind osprey]

Mini coopers make sense those are more rare

[night steeple]

I could try a mini if I could get some sponsor cash from my parents, besides the mini price only goes up

[kind osprey]

I would never personally get a daily or only car that is old enough to come without a mandatory three point seatbelt

[night steeple]

if all else fails, first gen civic, probably the better choice
but no merc

[kind osprey]

If that seatbelt was an option the car is too old to daily

[vestal garnet]

😫

[night steeple]

I already have one car, this is gonna be my semi daily
and I drive work one week out of 3 per month, otherwise they let me work at home

[vestal garnet]

1st gen civic might be too old