transportation

[kind osprey]

Such great photos

Do you have any of the spyker

I love those

[uncut saddle]

This was also an absolute beaut

[kind osprey]

Over you you have a better chance of seeing a Hennessey f5 or a Veryon than seeing a spyker

I've only seen one in person

[uncut saddle]

Here you are

[kind osprey]

Nut

Thank you

[uncut saddle]

Helps that I'm a Dutch guy in the Netherlands

[kind osprey]

Oh then they must be everywhere lmao

[uncut saddle]

Actually still somewhat rare

[kind osprey]

They make such a small amount

[uncut saddle]

But most events do have one

[kind osprey]

Butbthe ones that come out are so cool

[lunar berry]

if only
shows like that have a chance of existing in california

[kind osprey]

I would absolutely kill for a Zagato C12

They only made 25

[uncut saddle]

Also had a new and old NSX here

Which is incredibly rare in this country

[lunar berry]

wtf

[uncut saddle]

Also saw this absolute unit

Also, this beautiful and underrated piece of machinery

[kind osprey]

Is that a z8 :o

[uncut saddle]

Yes it is!

There was another one right next to it

[kind osprey]

Damn

[uncut saddle]

Pretty damn cool

[kind osprey]

Those are crazy imagine a new one today

I forgot who designed the z8 it was either Gordan Murray or Fisker

Probably Fisker

[uncut saddle]

I feel like a new Z8 would work very well

Especially the somewhat minimalist rear

[uncut saddle]

Yea Fisker

[lunar berry]

This is not fair😩

[uncut saddle]

Here's the ones that didn't make the cut and were parked in the nearby field

[kind osprey]

That's kinda sad imagine goingnto the show and being like yea not cool or expensive enough

These guys should get their own show

[old sedge]

Don't these cars get stuck on grass?

[final robin]

I see a guilia hiding in there

Probably the most beautiful alfa ever made

[uncut saddle]

Was exaggerating a bit there lmao

But it kinda does come down to it

[uncut saddle]

More than one

[final robin]

[uncut saddle]

Couldn't get it all in this one pic

Citroën looking ass

Probably my least favorite Ferrari front

[final robin]

Nice blue tho

[uncut saddle]

That's for sure

This, on the other hand, is an exceptional front

Cute lil Civic (quite possibly the only Civic I like)

[jagged sentinel]

This camera is very good, I just left some "scene enhancement" setting on

[main cosmos]

Oh god

[glass fox]

Watch as some greifer on an oppressor MK2 to come blow everything up

[mild dock]

Can you spray paint a Tesla and change the rims if the color and rims you want isn’t available?

[raw scarab]

well I guess yes

[final robin]

You'll probably get better paint quality wrapping or repainting yourself anyway

[kind osprey]

Lmao

Ngl that's accurate

[kind osprey]

Painting usually costs double of a high quality wrap job

I would just research wraps and their pros and cons before doing one

[buoyant vigil]

Wraps also provide nice protection for the paint

[final robin]

[vestal garnet]

Doesnt look that bad

Better than the version in which grille was extending to the bumper

[final robin]

BMW went from absolutely gorgeous to "maybe not as horrendous as I expected"

[vestal garnet]

Photoshop this grille in the 1st pic

[final robin]

Pre facelift they were not so bad

Its the four eyes that bug me more than the grille

[vestal garnet]

M4 my beloved

[vestal garnet]

4 eyes arent that bad compared to ugly grille💀

Or about these headlights

[final robin]

Convertible = gey

Nice car tho

Actually the lci 5 series has grown on me

Saw one up close looks rather nice

[abstract stump]

Hi

[gray linden]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYsXKxyI6yY

[urban pond]

[heady swift]

made by someone who has no knowledge of racing: ''off-road racers, street racers, dirt racers, drifters''

[lunar berry]

Dirt racers

[heady swift]

I don't like drag racing either but this is just a vulgar meme

[urban pond]

Not to mention off road racers are lower than street racers

[final robin]

[urban pond]

I’d say rally and proper track racers top tier

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmGXfcNgAx4

Gonna go awkwardly camping when i get my GR86

[stuck ermine]

There is a nice m4 sedan at my schools parking

[stuck ermine]

Off road gr86 when

[urban pond]

its probably not an M4 then

[urban pond]

its probably not an M4 then

[kind osprey]

What was that meme in terms of? Because if it was by difficulty rally and dirt racing especially prior ones like group b and much more difficult than proper safe track racing

[urban pond]

i'd say in terms of bragging rights

[kind osprey]

I'd say it's pretty high up there

professional drag racing and top fuel can get pretty insane

[urban pond]

true, but it seems like its more poking fun at the people who over glorify drag racing

its cool but at the same time its boring as fuck

[kind osprey]

I feel like they should replace drag racer with "guy who just bought a hellcat" and it would make sense

[urban pond]

Hellcat owners when they meet a series of corners:

[kind osprey]

Elise owners when they are met with a straight line longer than 900 feet

Mercedes Gle coupe owners when met with both

god why does that car exist

[urban pond]

im honestly not sure

and looking at the Mercedes Canada site rn its the 4th highest starting price for SUVs

[kind osprey]

Like the Mercedes GLE suv is cool, the Mercedes e class is cool, but when you mix the downsides of a sedan (practicality, safety) with the downsides of an SUV (body roll, denter of gravity, gas mileage) you get the gle coupe

If you want an suv get an suv, not a car with the ride height of an suv, that's just dumb

what's the point

[urban pond]

thats pretty much the main reason people buy crossovers nowadays

Big enough that its not a full size SUV but not small enough to be a car

[kind osprey]

The GLE is the size of a full gle suv but it has a slanted back

it's just odd, not good looking, and probably has alot more body roll than an e class amg

[urban pond]

theres also a "Coupe" Version of the GLC as well

[kind osprey]

yea another car that makes no sense

[urban pond]

that can be said about most of the current Mercedes Line up from what im looking at

[kind osprey]

I find it hilarious that even the Porsche Cayenne has a coupe, the cars back already swooped more than anything else

[urban pond]

9 different options of SUVS each with their own trims

[kind osprey]

Regular

ugly and less storage

and they make you pay more for it

[urban pond]

how much is the coupe?

[kind osprey]

like probably $3,000-$5,000 more

that's my guess

You pay more for less practicality without any massive benefit for that sacrifice

[urban pond]

honestly at that point just get a Macan

Cayenne Coupe has an MSRP of 92,600 CAD, so a whole 10k mark up from a base model

speaking of buying cars, lowkey kind of regretting picking Track Red over Halo White for my GR86

both look really good

[heady swift]

white is more difficult to maintain, especially in certain climates

or if you drive a lot

[urban pond]

Yeah I found my White 86 got dirty really easily but it still was the nicest colour imo

[kind osprey]

White is a very boring color and eye popping colors make cars that aren't really exciting feeling more exciting

Unless you have a Lotus or a Lamborghini, white won't help your case when going for cool points

because once you get to that weirdness or quality of car the color isn't all that relevant

[urban pond]

Track red is really only a fallback colour if i dont get the SE Orange

[night steeple]

regular car reviews did one for the crown vic taxi, quite an interesting episode

[raw scarab]

real e60 m5 owner

"it sounds good!"

[worthy blade]

it looks better

[mild dock]

Nissan Leaf or Mini Cooper SE?

[old sedge]

He must be disappointed after this race.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyN8vt6eTVU

[hybrid charm]

"at least it sounds like an F1"
meanwhile the transmission and vanos are shitting themselves

[heady swift]

neither

current nissan models are relatively unreliable

mini is shit in general

buy a toyota or hyundai if you want something economical

[final robin]

Besides buying an old electric car isn't probably a good idea

[kind osprey]

Yea leafs are some of the qorst real electric cars out there

It only surpasses the chinese go kart lookin things

[sage roost]

Nissan Leaf with its goofy ahh 150 mile range

[hybrid charm]

buy a BMW that either has an S85, S65, N63 or an S63 trust me they're ULTRA reliable

And very efficient

[heady swift]

yes nothing more efficient than a v10 in a sedan

and bmw certainly has a track record of reliability

[mild dock]

I have heard that the leaf and Mini Cooper se are the most eco friendly evs out there so what would be some other options that remain eco friendly?

Would buy a Tesla but the materials used to manufacture them are quite harmful to the environment

[mild dock]

Looking for a new model

[jagged sentinel]

Over time (like, years) they do end up being more eco-friendly than gas cars

But they're electric and don't make the funny vroom vroom noise so I don't want one

[mild dock]

Yeah but aren’t there evs that are more eco friendly than teslas because of the manufacturing materials?

[jagged sentinel]

More or less

But the manufacturing is still considerably more pollutant then that of gas cars

Might have posted these already but I don't care

[proper elbow]

[jagged sentinel]

[heady swift]

eco friendly meaning the entire footprint of such a car, including maintenance, production and resources? Or do you mean range and energy efficiency?

[mild dock]

First one

[kind osprey]

Mini cooper is too expensive and nissan leaf is too shitty

The compromise isn't worth it just get a normal fuel efficient car or ev

[urban pond]

Cobalt Driver parked like an absolute twat tho

[kind osprey]

Yea why tf is he halfway on the sidewalk

[proper elbow]

You're not fully parked until your tire hits the curb

[final robin]

If you really want want to save the planet, buy an old corolla and ask people to not buy unnecessary stuff every day
Recycle only comes after Reduce and Reuse but corporations dont want to focus on that, no just because the seat covers are made from recycled bottles the car suddenly becomes a beacon of sustainability even if the batteries are shipped the way from China

[heady swift]

personal responsibility in the sense of sustainability is mostly a neoliberal scam

almost all pollution is caused by companies, not consumers

[final robin]

Exactly

[heady swift]

yet companies lobby the responsibility onto individuals, this way they can freely pollute while consumer-side climate activism satiates prematurely - effectively shifting the responsibility from companies to people

not saying that you shouldn't eat less meat, or recycle waste. But the impact you make between buying a leaf or an i3 is negligible, both on individual and collectivist level

[final robin]

"its not the tonnes of our bilge dumping that kill baby seals, its you not paying extra for our stupid non plastic straws"
I mean yea its important to be responsible but come on

[kind osprey]

I agree with your statement’s guys but I must include the fact that

Fuck paper straws

[jagged sentinel]

real

[hybrid charm]

session 3 qualifying clay pigeon 12th august, was horrible weather

But then it dried and was able to push hard

[kind osprey]

:o

[main cosmos]

that looks so much fun

[final robin]

Super cool

[hybrid charm]

its dangerous aswell

currently building land speed go kart to do 150mph powered by turbine

[jagged sentinel]

[hybrid charm]

body shell render concept

[final robin]

Nice which software

[hybrid charm]

will be powered my tj150 turbine engine

blender

[final robin]

Nice

Will have to learn that

[hybrid charm]

its easy

ive used it since 2013

[final robin]

Im good with f360 and solidworks never tried rendering

[urban pond]

https://www.autotrader.ca/a/scion/fr-s/brampton/ontario/19_12364954_/?showcpo=ShowCpo&ncse=no&ursrc=hl&orup=3_15_16&sprx=50&modalXS=1

Absolute clown has no performance mods on it

[rigid vessel]

I mean for what it’s going you are getting a free bodykit but still I personally wouldn’t buy it. PLUS ITS A SCION

[urban pond]

and it being a Scion is bad apparently?

[final robin]

[vestal garnet]

F

Wanted to share the vid about most unreliable cars

Range rover is 1st again

[final robin]

[rare yoke]

So should I buy a junked 1970 Datsun 240z for 6.5k? I love those freaking cars and I would love to build it back up to a daily driver.

[opal forum]

That probably depends on its condition

How "junked up" it is

[final robin]

True

I dont know the usual market price or the known issues

I'd say go through some forums

[proper elbow]

If you have a good working knowledge of how things work, and have the ability and time to devote to it, sure.

Otherwise, no. If it's rusted, no.

[heady swift]

240z has its own online fora, if not you can just visit general oldtimer/toyota fora where people genuinely own and have worked on those cars

you'll def get in-depth answers there

[proper elbow]

Reasonably priced death machine

[jagged sentinel]

Ah, Rossion Q1

[final robin]

I thought it was an elise

[kind osprey]

What country is that post from

I've never seen one of those over here so i wonder if it is even legal to own in the US

[jagged sentinel]

The car was built in the US

[kind osprey]

THAT is from the US?

[jagged sentinel]

Yes

[kind osprey]

but bu bt... it's not 4000 pounds and overpowered :(

[jagged sentinel]

You can probably thank its V6 for that

[kind osprey]

I'll go grab it rn and get it registered

it looks nice

[jagged sentinel]

I kinda figured they would use the Ford Modular V8 for it but

[jagged sentinel]

Registered in the US?

[kind osprey]

I live there so I hope so xD

I'm not in California so i'm good

[jagged sentinel]

I mean it's already road legal, so that'll be easy

[kind osprey]

It looks like a kit car

[jagged sentinel]

Some of them are

So, as it turns out

Some of them were manufactured in south africa

Then assembly was moved to Florida after RP High Performance acquired Rossion and Mosler

In 2013

[proper elbow]

0-60 tested at 3.4 seconds ||with poor traction||

[final robin]

[tepid fog]

vtec go prrr

[kind osprey]

@jagged sentinel I just noticed something. I didn't realize the q1 was American from the body because its technically is just a Noble m400

I forgot that car existed and that os a UK brand

[stuck ermine]

Please don't get flag as shit post it's actually a fact

[rare yoke]

I mean its on topic

So its not shitposting

[main cosmos]

ripgas

[hybrid charm]

I found this on the internet

Cost more than my moms car

[final robin]

[shadow valve]

Bruh I need that

[sturdy hemlock]

Now someone can make the same video but with a hellcat or some sort of dodge

Because it’s the same shit, mfs waste half a tank of gas just to go vroom vroom, which hey.. i don’t mind

Maybe half a tank is an exaggeration

It seems like the people who drive challengers are more chill, but the charger drivers go crazy, in my experience atleast

[kind osprey]

It's not too stretched

They get horrendous mileage even when you try

When you send one it's innthe negatives

[final robin]

[jagged sentinel]

2016 SS

2019 SS

[opal forum]

mmm fine

havent kept up with muscle cars that much

You get a cookie, congrats

[jagged sentinel]

I'm not really trying to prove anything, I'm just noting

2016 ZL1

[opal forum]

yea i get it

[jagged sentinel]

2019 ZL1

[opal forum]

they both look the same...

[jagged sentinel]

They didn't facelift it, and I'm glad because that front end looks mean

[jagged sentinel]

Exactly

Like I said

[opal forum]

So it kinda also is a 2019 ZL1

[jagged sentinel]

Sure

[hybrid charm]

The grille of this sort of reminds me of the one planted on the front of the new GT500

[kind osprey]

That newer ss looks hideous

[jagged sentinel]

Agreed

[uncut saddle]

Can't help but look at this thing every time I go grocery shopping

Really wish I knew who the owner is

[sage roost]

Yeah, the facelifted one is much better.

[jagged sentinel]

That is the facelift...

[sage roost]

I mean the 2021

Slight change

[sage roost]

yeah that’s miles better than the 2019 SS

I like the newer camaro’s rear end more than the 17-18 camaro

[jagged sentinel]

Painting that front panel immediately made it look better somehow

[sage roost]

yes

looks less hideous

[jagged sentinel]

Yes

[proper elbow]

The ZL1 front end looks incredible compared to those

that center bar is way too thick

[jagged sentinel]

Too bad nobody is buying them

Partially cuz the Camaro is a bit pricier then the other two (three?) Pony cars

[kind osprey]

It is?

I thought the camaro would be the cheapest

[jagged sentinel]

That title goes to the mustang I believe

[jagged sentinel]

To be fair the camaro is considered to be the best as far as pure driving goes

[sage roost]

Yeah by my simple observation I see more mustangs than Camaros

So that means mustang is cheaper

[jagged sentinel]

I think part of it has to do with Chevy's marketing

Which gets to the root of the problem that I have with Chevy as a fun-car company

They aren't really doing anything for the inner 10 year old in everybody, with the exception of the 6th gen ZL1, that's really the only thing

Whereas dodge has been it since 2015 with putting a hellcat engine in everything and Ford with RTR, the Raptor, the GT, the Bronco Badlands, The absurdity of the GT500, and now the Shelby Code Red or whatever it's called

Oh, and the GT350R

Chevy's cars are well thought out and mature. Almost too mature for me.

Hell, half of dodge's marketing for their SRT models are done for them by people hooning them absolutely everywhere

[hybrid charm]

Someone over here has a Sapphire Cosworth

Absolutely mint

Such a pretty car to look at

[sage roost]

I agree, Chevy is the most… sensible? I don’t know the word

Out of the three

[errant hazel]

lovely.

auction house vehicle

[proper elbow]

It looks like the ZL1 is a good $7k cheaper than the GT500

Corvette is the cheapest but IDK if you can really compare that to the GT500/ZL1

[final robin]

To me the ss 1le is seggs spec

[uncut saddle]

Awesome!

[jagged sentinel]

With the power difference between the two...

[vestal garnet]

Nice Vigero ZX

[old sedge]

I wonder... does anyone want Chevrolet to build a Corvette e-SUV like how Mitsubishi is gonna build an Evo e-SUV?

[old sedge]

If handheld radios or small radios already existed decades ago, then how come no radios were used for race car drivers during the 1960s?

[jagged sentinel]

Fuck that and fuck you for even making that combination of words

[kind osprey]

Don't even utter that, they moght hear you

[kind osprey]

https://youtube.com/shorts/nLQscg6PQAc?feature=share

Look at this abomination

[winged geyser]

badge placement is also much much better

[jagged sentinel]

True

[vestal garnet]

[final robin]

[old sedge]

I thought of another idea which I won't say anymore for another certain car manufacturer employees might see it and make it come true

[old sedge]

Nvm...

||How about asking Chrysler to build a Chrysler/Dodge Viper again but this time as an e-SUV? ||

[sage roost]

no.

just no

[vestal garnet]

[jagged sentinel]

leave

[sage roost]

one more time you will be redirected to memes and shitposting.

[proper elbow]

🤤

[kind osprey]

I need you to respectfully ban yourself

Here is the hammer, type in your own reason

[loud spade]

No door handles

[twin fiber]

Doors are open telepathically

[vast goblet]

Go fuck yourself

[jagged sentinel]

Best response so far

Made me chuckle a bit, ngl

[vast goblet]

Id post a picture of my C3 but cant

[jagged sentinel]

No need

[vast goblet]

[jagged sentinel]

I can see your pfp well enough

[vast goblet]

Ah

[jagged sentinel]

What year is it

[vast goblet]

Yeah i guess that does it. 81

[jagged sentinel]

I know the C3 went through like 7 million redesigns

[vast goblet]

Mmmm

None actually

Just 3 refreshed

73, 78 and 80

That chassis its on is from the C2s

[jagged sentinel]

That's what I meant

[vast goblet]

Haha

Naw i love my 81, worked my ass off for it, as my first car

[jagged sentinel]

I don't doubt that for a second

[vast goblet]

Its been my daily for 3 years now

[jagged sentinel]

Every car I've considered "mine" has been an NPC car

[vast goblet]

Ah

[jagged sentinel]

Shitbox F150, Ram 1500, and now a Ford Maverick

[vast goblet]

Yeah unfortunately i will have to park if after college and get something a little more suited for a, work life and eventual family

Not sell, just park

[jagged sentinel]

I'm at college rn

[vast goblet]

Just started my first year at tech school

Its been interesting

[jagged sentinel]

Man I've always wanted a 5.3 Silverado

[vast goblet]

The 5.3s are nice

[jagged sentinel]

But after seeing this one, I now want one more then anything

[vast goblet]

I worked at a GM dealer for 90 days and drove most everything in the lineup minus the Vette and Camaro

Inventory porter

[jagged sentinel]

I'm going to an all automotive college

[vast goblet]

I am going to a mostly automotive college but its got other fields

[jagged sentinel]

That Silverado is one of the best sounding car's I've ever heard for some reason

[vast goblet]

Ooo squarebody

[jagged sentinel]

My school is as automotive as it gets

[vast goblet]

McPhearson?

[jagged sentinel]

One sec

[vast goblet]

Well nvm u prolly dont wanna dox yourself lol

[jagged sentinel]

U right

[jagged sentinel]

Peep the bugeye Silverado later in the vid

That's the car I'm talking about

[vast goblet]

Well, i am a GM guy through and through, everything is cool tho from the other brands. Ah

Yeah that squarebody tho

[jagged sentinel]

Yeah it is pretty sick

There are a few squarebodies in my dorm parking lot

[vast goblet]

GM Truck and Coach, and Corvette are my main passions

Ford trucks are neat too

Love the bullnoses

[jagged sentinel]

Haven't really decided on a brand yet

The concept of brand loyalty is dumb to me but I feel it's a rite of passage here

[vast goblet]

but dave the truck and coach division hasnt been around since the 90s or something

Thats the point

Eh i drive a corvette, my dad has a first gen Camaro as a sunday toy

So i lean chevy

[jagged sentinel]

I'm honestly inclined to Chevy too

However

I don't want to become one of those Chevy guys

People who think everything about every car that isn't a Chevy is straight poopoo garbage

I fucking hate those kinds of people, or at least that way of thought

[vast goblet]

Yeah i know Ford people like that and it’s annoying

[jagged sentinel]

Had a person like that in my auto shop class in high school

[vast goblet]

Kinda toxic tbh

The 80-86 Ford Trucks rock

I like the 73-79 chevies

The 66 Dodges are cool

I depart from litterally every other person on the planet in the fact i like the medium duties better than the pickups

😳

[jagged sentinel]

As long as it has a V8 I like

[vast goblet]

9/10 times i lean towards the bigger stuff

Oh yeah

Well most did back the

Then

[jagged sentinel]

Cuz it was the only engine configuration we knew how to get any real power out of

[vast goblet]

Yeah that too

Its still a very versitile platform

[jagged sentinel]

Now we know how to get 200 horsepower out of a toaster oven

[vast goblet]

We appear to be trending towards small displacement turbo eating 4 and 6s

Looking at you 3.5 Ecoboost

[jagged sentinel]

My maverick has a 2.0

[vast goblet]

I guess you are in the city ish?

[jagged sentinel]

The town I'm in is in the middle of bumfuck nowhere, Ohio

[vast goblet]

Ah

Prolly dont need a half ton then?

[jagged sentinel]

No but that hasn't stopped some students here

[vast goblet]

Ah

I wouldnt mind a 350 SRW gas

An 82 F350 srw, with 4wd and a 300 would be mint actually

Issue is that truck never existed

😂

[sturdy hemlock]

anyone else absolutely fucking hate this bumper

Or the car itself

You wouldn’t want to see the full photo

[old sedge]

The bumper kinda looks like it doesn't match

[kind osprey]

Yea that looks very aftermarket

and bulged

[old sedge]

That's the word I'm looking for, thanks, it was in the tip of my tongue

[final robin]

I dont mind it
I wish it wasn't body colored tho

[heady swift]

Yeah it looks like a poor fit

Probably because it doesn't follow the car's lines and contouring

[tepid fog]

i’ll take it

[final robin]

Nice wallpiece ig

[opal forum]

only $300 tho

You take a photo from the right angle and you can flex a Supra

for dirt cheap!

[rare yoke]

I would buy it fr

good decoration for the garage

[proper elbow]

Eww

[kind osprey]

Good idea

Paint it and hang it on the wall

[final robin]

[old sedge]

It's a good wall decor if you ask me

[vapid hill]

XD

[proper elbow]

Tasteless. All of you.

It's not even cut straight

[jagged sentinel]

There are a couple parts from that you might be able to sell

Provided they don't disintegrate when you touch them

[gray geyser]

front door

[kind osprey]

https://youtu.be/Jmal0VjZiws

Great video with lots of little facts and details

[final robin]

[granite cedar]

Does anyone have a lazar that they can give me ill help dupe issis dm me

[final robin]

[sage roost]

!lfg @granite cedar vehicle

[stuck owl]

@granite cedar, please use the appropriate LFG (Looking For Group) channel:
Vehicles: #ps4｜vehicles-lfg

Requested by: @sage roost

[granite cedar]

@sage roost the fart it says transportation and sry for calling you a fart just it kinda looks like fart

[hybrid charm]

Bruh

[hybrid charm]

When did you call them a fart and what looks like a fart 🤣

[vestal garnet]

[sage roost]

It also says [NON-GTA] and [LFG is prohibited]

[granite cedar]

Their name farxxs and fart

[granite cedar]

Alr fine then im sorry

[hybrid charm]

Oh

[final robin]

Say Goodbye To The V8-Powered BMW 5 Series https://carbuzz.com/news/say-goodbye-to-the-v8-powered-bmw-5-series

[urban pond]

So apparently the accident I was in my insurance labeled me 50% at fault while the guy who hit me his insurance said he was 100% at fault

[dry sage]

I mean, you chose to go out on that day. So it's your fault.

[urban pond]

100% my fault i chose to exist

[jagged sentinel]

Hehehe fart

[sage roost]

[jagged sentinel]

[cloud wave]

new car fresh from japan :)

[kind osprey]

Oh cool you imported one?

[jagged sentinel]

Looks like it

Japanese car with wheel on the right, in a garage, with US plate shape, next to a pick-up truck, with the wheel on the left
Checks out

[cloud wave]

yeye

Just arrived on monday, picked it up today

The original owner skimped out on me by taking his wheels he had on it before

but atleast i have the radio that talks in japanese to me

[final robin]

Duracell 🚗

[heady swift]

ew

[final robin]

[sage roost]

[honest herald]

@delicate grotto @jagged sentinel @gray linden look whos working on an ISX12 cummins diesel engine

@gray geyser @final robin

[gray linden]

EXPOSE DEM ARMS ALREADY KEKKEKEKEW

[honest herald]

No u get very bright finger because of camera flash

[gray geyser]

danggg

[gray geyser]

what liter engine i it

[honest herald]

https://tenor.com/view/i-wish-i-knew-morbius-jared-leto-i-wish-someone-let-me-know-i-wish-someone-told-me-gif-23731193

[gray geyser]

[kind osprey]

Front looking bulgeier than a Civic gadam

Sperm whale havin ass

[bold leaf]

My Maxima

[sage roost]

How is the transmission in particular?

Nissan CVT is actually trash

CVT’s as a whole

[final robin]

Noice

[urban pond]

Yeah the CVT in my Altima is dogshit

Just want my GR already

[sage roost]

GR Corolla is so cool

I want one bad

If only starting price wasn’t $36k

[urban pond]

I would have gotten one instead of the GR86 but I couldn’t sadly since it was already spoken for

Only 6500 in the first year iirc

And my city is only getting 1

[sage roost]

GR Yaris is cool af too

[final robin]

I personally like yaris over corolla

But if i was looking for a hot hatch id take either a polo gti or a civic si sedan

[urban pond]

SI Sedan isnt a hot hatch tho

Type R is the hatch

[kind osprey]

Cursed 512

no pop ups

[winged geyser]

front end looks weird coz of the bulge on the hood

[final robin]

[winged geyser]

[uncut saddle]

I think I just fell in love

[sage roost]

Underrated beemer

[uncut saddle]

Very

Wish I had enough money for one

[boreal oak]

V12 or V6 model?

[uncut saddle]

6

€55000

[boreal oak]

There's approximately a 70:30 ratio of V6 and v12 ones here

Not in literal count

In percentage

[uncut saddle]

Jealous you have a few of them in your area

[boreal oak]

70% V6s and the leftover 30% are V12a

[uncut saddle]

This is literally the first one I've seen in the entire country

[boreal oak]

My neighbour had one, sold it and bought himself a skyline 2.8 GTX

I'm in another city rn and I've seen about 3 Z3s

2 v6 and 1 V12

And a 1400 Datsun with some sort of K series swap

Shit was in a bronze color and had BBS

Didn't get a photo as I was in a rush sadly

[uncut saddle]

Awesome

[boreal oak]

So many weird cars in Johannesburg

I've seen like 30 F types

And 1 MR2

So many mid life crisis cars

[uncut saddle]

MR2 is such an odd car

Can't say I like it

[boreal oak]

I like older mr2s

The newer ones are strange

[heady swift]

I quite like all of them aside from

[kind osprey]

$55000 for the old shoebox?

Damn that's a lot

[sage roost]

55k for the Z3?

ngl that’s a lot

Doesn’t deserve that much imho

[final robin]

Probably pristine

[uncut saddle]

Certainly wasn't pristine but it was in very good condition

And they're very hard to find over here

Saw one for 70k the other day

[kind osprey]

70,000 for a 20 year old car that looks like this?

[kind osprey]

They made a v12 of that thing?

That's sounds odd

[proper elbow]

No way those M coupes are that expensive

They never made a V12 M coupe, they were all I6

[kind osprey]

That has to be the the most goofy ahh car

[kind osprey]

Yea that's what I thought idk what that guy was talking about

It's like a z3 station wagon

[proper elbow]

I kind of like them tbh

[kind osprey]

What in the world

[proper elbow]

They are weird enough to be neat

[kind osprey]

When I think of old weird thing I think of like an Audi rs2

Little Audi porsche wagon

That's what I'd spend the money on it's more practical

[proper elbow]

Gotta love the old Audi Avants

[kind osprey]

Indeed

[boreal oak]

Sure did

[jagged sentinel]

🚮

That's insane

[sage roost]

There’s one that sold for $100k

What????

[proper elbow]

17k miles though

[jagged sentinel]

And it has 17K miles💀

[proper elbow]

practically a new car

[jagged sentinel]

I wouldn't pay 100K for that car if it had 0 miles bruh

[proper elbow]

people like what they like

bargain https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2002-chevrolet-camaro-134/

[sage roost]

Oh no

The catfish camaro

[jagged sentinel]

Wonder if the sail has been replaced yet

[kind osprey]

That's insane, I wonder how well everything works with it sitting for 99.99% percent of it's life

holy crap

It just sold this second

[kind osprey]

https://youtube.com/shorts/LbhS66VOwLQ?feature=share

[jagged sentinel]

Skill Issue

[kind osprey]

oh my fucking god

That is like looking at gore

[main cosmos]

Wtf is that

[bold leaf]

Finally posted at a meet

[proper elbow]

poggers

[urban pond]

Yeah didn’t that pagani just absolutely sideswipe some random ass traffic car?

[tepid fog]

how to double clutch?

[old sedge]

Double clutch?

[tepid fog]

double clutch

[final robin]

Oh

You mean in old cars with no synchros you'll have to first shift to neutral then gear

[old sedge]

I probably never saw such cars

[final robin]

Hmm some old bikes have 1-nuetral-2 pattern so we do that automatically

Like the m80 i drove the other day, India's version of the supercub

[jagged sentinel]

Some one-of-three Zonda they forgot to put a roof on

[jagged sentinel]

No clue

I just saw the picture, downloaded it and sent it along with my first thoughts of the picture in here

[hybrid charm]

We have alot of those in greece

[final robin]

[hybrid charm]

My friend has one a Honda c50

Red

[hybrid charm]

.

[final robin]

Noice

[jagged sentinel]

New pagani

Utopia

[hybrid charm]

It’s beautiful

[final robin]

New new or another special edition

Nvm I saw the news

Gated manual v12 is great but i wish it was mainstream

[kind osprey]

Pagani and other similar niche brands aren't really mainstream because they are more tracky and enthusiast type vehicles, more about craftsmanship than brand appeal.

Bugatti has amazing craftsmanship that is just an objective statement. But Pagani makes their cars to be more mechanical, more artistic

They have a spotlight nowadays because of their great success over the two decades but back in the 00's when I enjoyed the zondas they were basically unheard of

Spyker is another great brand similar to this type of philosophy

A passion car where quality was put first

[final robin]

I mean not mainstream like a corolla but like a huayra

[jagged sentinel]

It's the Huayra's replacement

[final robin]

99 is way too low

And all of them is sold already

[jagged sentinel]

I mean they only sold 100 base Huayra's when they launched it

[final robin]

[jagged sentinel]

Then of course the special editions came around like the BC and what not

[jagged sentinel]

That's how it always is with extreme-limited-production cars like this are

[final robin]

Its not like I'll buy it anyway

I guess it would be cool in future videogames

[urban pond]

Exactly, they’re cool ass cars but I’m not a 1%er so I see no reason to get hyped for it

[kind osprey]

https://youtube.com/shorts/SM0Cfp13uFg?feature=share

Don't mind the shitty title the video footage itself is the good part

[kind osprey]

They would make more if they could

But they pretty much can't

It takes so long to create even one of them

[final robin]

[opal forum]

Is this made to compete with CC850?

Kinda weird how 2 hypercar manufacturers release their own modern interpretation of their predecessor cars

At around the same time

[jagged sentinel]

No

Hypercar companies don't really "compete" with each other the same way companies like Ford and Dodge

At least not often

Pagani has always kind of did its own thing

I'm willing to bet the designing of the Utopia started before the reveal of the CC850

[jagged sentinel]

Or for the sake of sales

[opal forum]

Still a weird timing

[jagged sentinel]

We've gotten a bunch of new hypercars these past few months

F5 roadster, Mistral, CC850, Utopia, more that I can't think of at this second

[opal forum]

Does that include modernized versions of decades older models?

[jagged sentinel]

I have a feeling the CC850 has started a trend though

[jagged sentinel]

Wdym

[opal forum]

I think so too

Well...

Maybe not

[jagged sentinel]

Like the CC850? Tribute cars like that?

[opal forum]

Since countach is a thing

[opal forum]

Yes

Like the new countach

[jagged sentinel]

Then I will bring up the Aston Martin Victor

[opal forum]

Isnt Victor a 1 of 1 tho?

[jagged sentinel]

Yeah

A tribute is a tribute though

[opal forum]

What is victor a tribute to?

[jagged sentinel]

Aston Martin's 70s cars like the V8 vantage

[opal forum]

Eh, idk if i'd count victor, iirc it was made as a specific order for someone, and really, its as you said, taken from multiple older aston martin's

[jagged sentinel]

The La Voiture Noire is a tribute as well

But I don't think it's a very good tribute

[opal forum]

Lets just say, that new pagani, countach and CC850 are tributes to more iconic and specific models of older cars

[jagged sentinel]

The CC850 fucking nailed the tribute aspect of... Being a tribute car

Reminds you of the CC8S while looking amazing and modern simultaneously

It's beautiful

[opal forum]

It is an amazing looking car

[jagged sentinel]

Yeah

Not even grading it's tribute-ness, it's a gorgeous car

[opal forum]

The pagani is good too, but CC850 is just a tier above

And the countach is somewhere in the middle

[jagged sentinel]

Countach looks decent

Just decent

[opal forum]

Yea

[kind osprey]

I wouldn't really call it a tribute car, it's not specific enough I think it was just a "remembrance of the old" one off just to be another random halo car

The cc850 definitely did the remake game the best

That thing is awesome and like classic Koenigsegg, they had to give it some wacky unseen engineering marvel

it's a 9 speed automatic with a 6 speed gated manual, like, my head is exploding just by hearing that

[next helm]

needs a big wing though.

[kind osprey]

Most Countach's don't have the wing. The wing actually creates negative unnecessary drag it was only there to look good

Unless you were time attacking and wanted one with the front wing as well lol

[next helm]

i know. liked it for the looks alone.

[kind osprey]

make the top speed like half but in the name of science

The new Countach is alright, but it could've been cooler

[kind osprey]

What tribute would a Pagani be?

Koenigsegg and Lamborghini have one but I haven't seen one made by Pagani because Pagani will literally just make you a Zonda.

They are a weird company where they stop making a car, but you can revive it from the dead if you are a special person with a big wallet, Zonda's were made as late as 2018

when they were discontinued since 2011

Zonda that is newer than most Huayra's it's a funny strategy to keep making your old models but it makes sense for pagani's sake

Every single car they have created since their inception has been 100% timeless, so why not make your 2007 model next to your 2022 one lol

[opal forum]

The one posted by W1LL

[kind osprey]

The Utopia isn't a tribute to anything it is just their next gen production

Pagani has nothing to tribute, it's only been around since 99

the c10 is a trubute to "le mans cars from the 60's" but not a specific Pagani

[opal forum]

Not like koenigsegg been around for that much longer

[kind osprey]

The cc850 is actually a tribute to one of their prior models, but I said above why Pagani can't do this like Koenigsegg did

but Pagani will build you a car from 2007 if you order it

year is arbitrary to that company

If I want a bespoke Zonda I fork over $17 mil and they build it for me to make it worth their while they may make 3 or 4 of them

but Pagani is just weird like that

[final robin]

Meh
I'm not that interested in hypercars anymore these days
They're cool and all but blue collar heroes like the camaro ss 1le should get more love

[heady swift]

eh tbf they're very difficult with building new zonda's

what most people do is buy a zonda f for... 3-5m mil? and then go to the pagani shop and have it tailored into some 760 special

like you said, you could order a new zonda, but that's reserved for people who are close ''friends'' with horacio, or who are extremely well-known

so, in practice, people who already own a tricolore, huayra bc and some random 40 million ferrari collection

[jagged sentinel]

Bugatti themselves call it a tribute

[kind osprey]

Oh I know they do, but it doesn't feel like one

They don't call it the type 57 Atlantic

and it is mid engine awd, just a chiron with body kit

[sage roost]

https://twitter.com/ferrari/status/1569732768220827648?s=46&t=dqJ_9OmtJCTTQheiAcCeOQ

Ferrari (@Ferrari)

We are delighted to introduce the #FerrariPurosangue, Maranello’s first ever four-door four-seater, sporting a naturally-aspirated V12.
Opening up new frontiers, #Ferrari has created a car that marries signature Prancing Horse performance with the ultimate in luxurious comfort.

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NA V12??????

[urban pond]

ngl these doors are hot

[kind osprey]

Wacky

[sage roost]

Rear looks nice

That’s about it

[kind osprey]

It still feels sacrilege but I guess the cash grab was too strong

[urban pond]

kind of funny how a lot of Brands are going electric and ferrari just says "fuck it V12 SUV"

[jagged sentinel]

Whatever it takes for Ferrari do what it was created to do

[kind osprey]

True, they are racing first so their road cars can be a economy crossover for all they care

[sage roost]

Rear is actually very nice

I’m going to die on this hill

Interior is standard Ferrari

Adopted the touch capacitive button hell from the SF90 it seems

[kind osprey]

It looks like a lifted ff or lusso

[sage roost]

Indeed it does

[kind osprey]

All these super car companies makimg suvs just doesn't sit right with me. Even if they look amazing like the Aston Martin dbx

[sage roost]

Front is literally the Roma

[sage roost]

I’ll stick with my opinion that the cayenne is the best SUV of all time

[kind osprey]

The dbx is the only suv that has good proportions and doesn't feel like another car chassis even if it is

The urus looks like an rsq8 with a mansory bodykit

Bentley suv is mid

Cullinan is doin it's own thing but it's half a mil

[sage roost]

Mercedes SUVs are meh too

Tbh

[jagged sentinel]

Surprised rolls didn't make an SUV sooner

[kind osprey]

Mercedes is a normal car company

I'm talking about the companies that are making suvs that never have, or should have

[sage roost]

Porsche be like “haha V8 twin turbo hybrid”

on a car that weighs 5000 pounds for good measure

[kind osprey]

5000? Nah lets make it 5500 no one will notice

[sage roost]

5500

They ruined the cayenne with the “coupe” version

[kind osprey]

I just want a sports car in the sea of suvs.

[kind osprey]

Yea the coupe version of any suv is extremely redacted

Like you want the downsides of an suv but the practically of a sedan?

Or a small hatchback

And you paid MORE for it

[sage roost]

You want a heavy SUV with the trunk space of a hatchback?

Say no more

[kind osprey]

Not to mention they look like bubbles

[fathom oriole]

ngl

i love the cayenne coup

it's perfect

[kind osprey]

But you like bubble cars

[sage roost]

you’re the minority Omar

[kind osprey]

I expected that

[sage roost]

[fathom oriole]

it's just so nice from the end

[sage roost]

literally the only person that said “I like the cayenne coupe”

[fathom oriole]

also

it's a very minor difference from the normal cayenne fyi

[kind osprey]

Porsche was a pretty big pioneer for exotic companies making suvs in general

[fathom oriole]

https://gtaodiscord.com/o/2ccc5f.png

[kind osprey]

I like the first gen cayenne

[fathom oriole]

https://gtaodiscord.com/o/a3ab05.png

the difference in cargo space is only 5 cubic feet

cayenne is 27.2, coupe is 22

[kind osprey]

My take on this is, if you want something sporty and swoopy why not just get a sedan? This thing doesn't have much higher ground clearance or off road capabilities

[sage roost]

imo it looks worse from the rear looking directly at it

https://www.topgear.com/sites/default/files/2021/07/Porsche_Cayenne_TurboGT_0116.jpg

[kind osprey]

Taller items will suffer even if the cubic isn't sacrificed as much

It looks like an odd audi thing from the back

[fathom oriole]

it looks so nice from the rear

normal cayenne

[sage roost]

Compared to

https://newsroom.porsche.com/.imaging/mte/porsche-templating-theme/image_1080x624/dam/pnr/2019/products/Cayenne-Hybrid/gallery/b-P19_0606_a5_rgb.jpg/jcr:content/b-P19_0606_a5_rgb.jpg

[fathom oriole]

idk

i just like the coupe cayenne

but if you say

bmw x3 vs x4

then i very much agree with you

[kind osprey]

I may just be more traditionalist when it comes to shapes but if I see swoop I want it low to the ground, if it's high off the ground having it shaped like an egg isn't my priority

When I think of suv I think of a regular cayenne because suvs are meant to be practical, and the aero differences probabaly aren't too staggering

[fathom oriole]

the coupe is plenty practical

[kind osprey]

In exchange for lost room and styling differences

[fathom oriole]

it's just a sportier take on the cayenne

not much lost room

[sage roost]

but if you told me about the Mercedes GLE

I will absolutely take the coupe version

[kind osprey]

The physics go against suvs as it is so the marketing of a sporty suv is one thing but then to swoop it and make it even more "sporty" it can just feel out of place

[sage roost]

https://img.autotrader.co.za/13841015

https://editorial.pxcrush.net/carsales/general/editorial/245013_mercedesbenz_gle_002.jpg?width=825&height=550

[kind osprey]

It's trying too hard to be something it can't be

I really dislike the gle coupe

It's huge, but it's shaped like a bubble

[sage roost]

I like it more than the regular GLE tbh.

[kind osprey]

Like why

These are definitely a lot more distinct thannthe Porsche ones

The cayenne is just a swoop. These two are completely different cars

[sage roost]

I feel like merc executed the “coupe” design better than Porsche did

[kind osprey]

Two different demographics of buyers

Gle coupe is for rappers, hustlers, dangerous blah blah blah and the regular gle is for soccer moms and old people

[fathom oriole]

+1

[kind osprey]

That is the vibe I get from seeing the driver behind these cars on a daily basis

[fathom oriole]

two different cars

merc does it well on some of their cars

shit on others

however i think porsche knocks it out of the park on the cayenne coupe

[kind osprey]

I personally don't find it attractive I'd pick the regular because being a porsche makes it sporty enough. I'm never taking it around a track lol

I just can't believe how much they weigh

I think the maxed out hybrid is like 5600 pounds

Base is a lot lighter I'm assuming but damn

[sage roost]

5500

Exact

[kind osprey]

Ik people love 911's but I think the 718 would be my poison of choice

It's very underrated

Especially since the 718 nowadays is puming 911 equivalent power

Back then it was like 260-310

[jagged sentinel]

Porsche 911 good

Very nice

[final robin]

https://tenor.com/view/my-disappointment-is-immeasurable-and-gif-20080022

[hybrid elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/porsche-992-911-carrera-s-gif-25770221

[final robin]

Sesky

Hi rose nice seeing you here

[final robin]

718 gts 4.0 is pure seggs

That said I'm a 911 guy

[kind osprey]

Damn

Skill issue

[final robin]

A road going version of this would be sick

[safe scroll]

Those wheels remind me of rally throwbacks from oz racing

[old sedge]

Oh, took me a while to find this thread.

Anyone excited for the new Civic Type R? Honda tuned its engine a little to give it a little higher hp than the outgoing version.

[main cosmos]

all i care about that it looks less ugly than the previews one which is good

actually this looks SICKKK https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/vxxXKR/s3/honda-civic-type-r-wagon-rendering.jpg

imagine if they made a wagon version

[opal forum]

I am not kidding, in a blink of an eye i thought this was a dodge charger wagon

[final robin]

Civic si > type r
I will die on this hill

[fair nova]

Any Thrax?

[old sedge]

Oh wow, how can a Lancer Evolution X MR 2008 be more expensive than a 2022 Ford Mustang 2.3L Ecoboost and 2014 Ford Mustang GT 5.0L V8?
https://www.carousell.ph/p/mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-x-mr-2008-jackani-auto-1181190516/?t-id=G0i4y_sC_y_1663151594150&t-product_id=1181190516&t-referrer_browse_type=item_item_rec&t-referrer_page_type=listing_page&t-referrer_product_id=1126774666&t-referrer_request_id=uj3qEZHp32CoRyHv&t-referrer_source=listing_page&t-tap_index=15

Even more expensive than the outgoing Honda Civic Type R...

[heady swift]

they're extremely reliable, they're very good for tuning, the evo x has aged very well and evo's are generally the go-to for rallying and hillclimbing because of the engine and extremely sturdy chassis. The evo X is arguably the best gen because of its immense rigidity, which is why it's been the most prominent group n/r4 rally car and is still the standard for hill-climb

a lot of teams often opt for gen 7-9 as those are the cheapest

4-6 is too expensive because of enthusiasts and 10 was bought up for rallying, and hasn't depreciated enough

[old sedge]

So that's why... I think X is the last gen and the Evo which has Final Edition variant

[heady swift]

yeah the X was the last one and there was a final edition

think they made a few 400hp+ examples, but those are very rare and will cost you over 90K

eur

the FQ models

[old sedge]

Maybe because you'll be paying for its sentimental value

[heady swift]

I personally would love an evo, either 6 or x, and just fit it with ralliart and group n parts

those 1000hp highway cruisers are a waste of absolute genius and rally-bred engineering

[old sedge]

I also would like an Evo with Rally Art livery

[heady swift]

amen

[vestal garnet]

320hp?

[old sedge]

It says that the new Type R will have 330ps and 420Nm torque

[vestal garnet]

So 10hp more + better handling

[old sedge]

But I think the outgoing version will be hard to find if it will have sentimental value

[vestal garnet]

Maybe

[old sedge]

It was only intended to be limited edition after all

Limited edition performance cars always have high value when discontinued

And since this is still car related, I'm gonna ask here. Is this limited edition?
https://www.modelauto.shop/epages/81481127.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/81481127/Products/45142

[old sedge]

I love this van, it's luxurious, it even has its own restroom.
https://www.carousell.ph/p/hyundai-h350-customize-2018-jackani-manual-1181024824/?t-id=G0i4y_sC_y_1663151594150&t-product_id=1181024824&t-referrer_browse_type=item_item_rec&t-referrer_page_type=listing_page&t-referrer_product_id=1181190516&t-referrer_request_id=H67W_cdtgNnVsntN&t-referrer_source=listing_page&t-tap_index=20

[main cosmos]

because these are no longer being made

[old sedge]

Uhh, do you guys think the Transformers movie affected the Camaro's price somewhat?

[final robin]

Idts

Bumblebee ones prolly

[jagged sentinel]

They used that movie to promote it and reveal it

And I think that movie among other things was the reason the 5th gen camaro absolutely fucking killed it the first 3 or 4 years it was available

[old sedge]

It's just that sometimes, I think that if Bumblebee never transformed into a Camaro, its price would be cheaper even just a bit

[jagged sentinel]

New Camaros?

You pay more because you get more

It's considered to be the best driver's car of the 3 pony cars

Especially handling-wise

[sage roost]

You get what you pay for in the camaro

[jagged sentinel]

Chevy is generally pretty good with their sports cars

Except this one

Actually I guess that one doesn't count because it isn't really a Chevy

[proper elbow]

Mmm SS

The muscle car that nobody knew existed

[jagged sentinel]

If they would have given it the attention it deserved

We could have gotten stuff like this

570 horsepower supercharged LSA V8

Or this

Man Australia knows what's up

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Australia loves it's homegrown twin

I'm fanboying over these cars and I don't care☠️

[proper elbow]

Don't forget Pontiac's G8 GT/GXP

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Yeah

[proper elbow]

another unsung hero

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A damn shame Holden isn't around anymore

Fucking GM

[old sedge]

Camaro is pretty rare sight here but they still do sell it

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They don't sell a lot of them in the US

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Got overshadowed by Ford Mustang?

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That's the reason it's going away either in 2023 or 24

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Not even that

They just aren't selling well

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I see

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The mustang has almost always outsold the camaro

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Here, Mustang is the most famous modern performance car

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That may as well be 11th commandment

[proper elbow]

mustang is a great deal for what you get

can make great power with simple mods

but the muscle car segment is dying

[old sedge]

Hmmmm, some people say that the 2.3L Ecoboost Mustang is not a "real" Mustang

Do you guys agree?

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The muscle car died in 1973 imo

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It's a pony car, so it gets a pass

[old sedge]

For me, it's still a Mustang

But it doesn't have the power and force of the V8

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Doesn't really need it

[proper elbow]

ecoboost mustang owners are the miata owners of the pony car world

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It's significantly lighter then the V8 stang

[old sedge]

I've seen the engine bay of the Ecoboost Mustang and if I'm not mistaken, there seems to be quite a huge space inside the hood

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Side note: old cars are lighter then people think

[proper elbow]

eh

they aren't that much different, few hundred pounds maybe

oh shit the modern GTs are almost 4k lbs

what the hell

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A 1970 boss 429 is lighter then a 2022 mustang GT

If not right around the same

Sites are giving different numbers

Wikipedia says ~3800 pounds while multiple other sites say around 3500 pounds

[old sedge]

Nvm

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Ford exports the mustang a lot more then Chevy does the Camaro

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I just found the updated price and Camaro is expensive

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Somehow there's a market in Japan for the Camaro

Japan

A place where they tax the engine more or less based on displacement

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And Ford removed the plain Mustang GT V8 from their lineup here

Only the Ecoboost, V8 convertible and Shelby are there

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Bigger engine displacement means heavier tax?

[proper elbow]

🤞

[old sedge]

Rent?

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Yes