transportation

[urban pond]

[proper elbow]

isnt Hagerty for like... collector cars

[urban pond]

Not really collector cars mainly just cars too old to insure at normal companies

that and my insurance referred me to them

[proper elbow]

They wont insure the Nissan? What insurance company is it?

[urban pond]

All state

[kind osprey]

I have almost ten years of driving experience but I've only had a license since 2019

I could take their insurance guy around a track to prove it I hate when people use useless metrics like a ridiculous amount of time on the road

You could have ten years of driving experience and still drive like a spastic novice

[proper elbow]

Are you trying to get full coverage or something or just liability?

[urban pond]

I’m not sure

[urban pond]

Literally most of my family with 2x my experience drives like shit or has infractions

I also can’t get the car in my name today because the dipshit who did my appraisal wrote the year wrong on the sheet and changed it to the proper year cause apparently that’s a bad thing

[proper elbow]

May want to check with them to see what coverages they were thinking. Might not do full coverage because the value of older vehicles can be hard to judge and is largely based on the current market/"collector" value. In their eyes that Nissan is probably only worth like $200 if that. Liability only covers damage to the other person's property/vehicle, not your vehicle which idk how that would pose a problem

[urban pond]

It’s about to be worthless if I keep having to constantly do stupid shit just to get the car in my name

[proper elbow]

Do you live in the US?

[urban pond]

No Canada

[proper elbow]

Ah gotcha. Was gonna say I've never had to have an appraisal done to register/insure a vehicle. No idea how Canada works.

[urban pond]

I only have to get an appraisal because it’s a 25 year old or older car

[mint plank]

Lambo is VW group

[kind osprey]

They better not get rid of the v10

That'll be a sad day

[sage roost]

Bad news

The ‘22 R8 is the last V10 model

[kind osprey]

Yea cause that'll stop the ice caps from melting

fix mail trucks first

stop ruining the fun things

[sage roost]

Make the casual cars electric before touching me precious exotics pls

[kind osprey]

extreme W opinion

[sage roost]

and the trucks with like 5mpg

yeah make all corollas and civics fully electric before touching something with a roaring ICE

[kind osprey]

I literally say this on a daily basis

this is a the proper way to do it

[sage roost]

Depends on the place but charging stations should be as common as gas stations

[kind osprey]

and I find electric cars to be fun, but add them, don't replace them.
I wanna see a Tesla Roadster and a Lamborghini. The world is big enough for both stop forcing me to only have the tesla exist

[sage roost]

before transitioning

I want to at least ride in a taycan turbo S

just to feel the acceleration

[kind osprey]

Pagani's Bugatti's Ferrari's Porsche's Mercedes Bmw all these v12 v10 and awesome manufactures should be given exceptions I don't give a shit if people think it is fair because it is.
These companies make less cars a year than Camry's made in a week.

a to b cars... regulate them to the ground but leave the fun fuckers alone

[kind osprey]

The taycan is awesome

I saw someone zoomin in one of those last week

right past all the speed cameras so $300 just to launch

cheaper than gas maybe

xD

[heady swift]

yeah, but their future isn't very bright

[sour radish]

Imma disclose this early on, I don't know as much about cars irl as most other car guys

And it's in my name bc GTA

@cold stream

Like I'm not actually a pilot irl, I just happen to be better than average at flying in-game and it's something I enjoy to do

[cold stream]

Oh alr that's nice

[hybrid charm]

braindead

[kind osprey]

Ik, all these fuckers who think 1/500 hypercars produce any noticeable emissions when they aren't even turned on once a month are truly braindead.

[hybrid charm]

No man, im saying that you are the braindead here

[kind osprey]

Oh, then fuck you Al Gore

[hybrid charm]

Wo taking into account the fallacious argument you started off with... these so called fun fuckers that you call are utter nonsense and a setback to humanity, plainly

[kind osprey]

You just have no interest in cars. Got it

[sage roost]

How so

[jagged sentinel]

Like the car community gives a fuck what the EPA says

[proper elbow]

Catalytic converters go brr

[kind osprey]

Go smell cow farts and tell me a bugatti is ruining the environment more...

[jagged sentinel]

We like removing those

[proper elbow]

fr. decatted cars smell

[sage roost]

But 16 cylinders!!!!!

[jagged sentinel]

The smell of a drag strip after a full day of drag racing...

[kind osprey]

People like this who don't understand or give a shit about cars are why we can't have nice things they wanna ruin anything fucking remotely entertaining instead of focusing on real issues

[jagged sentinel]

A mix of burnt rubber, nitro, ethanol

[proper elbow]

you are just the braindead epik

smh!

[sage roost]

Yeah epik

Smh

[hybrid charm]

so the real issue in this world is regulatig supercars too much??

[jagged sentinel]

Yes.

[proper elbow]

I don't enjoy <thing> so nobody else should be allowed to enjoy <thing> either

[hybrid charm]

I enjoy murdering minorities, but when I do it they call me insensitive!1!1!1 this world is run by liberal snowflakes omg this is why we cant have nice things

[sage roost]

?????

[hybrid charm]

Im going to murder an entire family of jews just to have some nice things for myself because i enjoy it

?????

[jagged sentinel]

Koenigsegg has made less cars in their entire existence then Ford SELLS f150s in a day

[kind osprey]

No regulating supercars would do absolutely fucking nothing to this planet. There are so few. What do you think would change the world... making 30,000,000 economy cars electric or 14,000 supercars that don't even get driven 2000 miles a year electric.

[hybrid charm]

I'm using your arguments, whats the problem?

[kind osprey]

Like use your brain

[jagged sentinel]

The fuck are you talking about

It's carbon monoxide not white fucking phosphorus

[hybrid charm]

At least the electric cars will be driven and used to the ground

I'm more of a public transit type of guy, using our resources intelligently

[kind osprey]

Yea, boring as fuck, we know

[jagged sentinel]

Not every place has a sufficient public transportation system

[kind osprey]

You have no argument

[hybrid charm]

Y'all living like you were rich or something? Ask your parents if they will buy you a bugatti like they buy you the anime girl genshin characters

[hybrid charm]

Not every place has bugattis for sale

Plus that's a fallacy

Dumbass

[jagged sentinel]

What?

[kind osprey]

Answer my question Einstein

[hybrid charm]

Alright, that is a fallacy, that's why i have no intention to answer an illogical answer

[proper elbow]

The city I used to live in had absolutely no public transport. How is it a fallacy?

[jagged sentinel]

So we win?

[proper elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-markiplier-gif-14835823

[sage roost]

Making all A to B cars and trucks electric would do more than making the remotely fun cars electric

[hybrid charm]

since thousands of ppl die hourly, i will kill a baby tonight bc it wont make a difference

[proper elbow]

Alright, just be sure to recycle the body in a compost heap rather than burning it

[jagged sentinel]

[hybrid charm]

Whats with you all being so braindead?? I never said anything about electrics i dont they they are much great

[kind osprey]

A car that isn't driven doesn't spew exhaust... these cars are rarely driven and made in such small quantities and actually take less to make then your nickel cobolt lovin ev's

[hybrid charm]

Strawman fallacies everywhere i see

[jagged sentinel]

We're not the ones being braindead

[hybrid charm]

you guys cant have a serious discussion without getting grounded or smth by your parents

[proper elbow]

Raise some good points and then we'll talk

[hybrid charm]

Y'all only debate about gettig the new ps5

[kind osprey]

We need to make sure people like this stay the fuck out of office

[jagged sentinel]

Indeed

[hybrid charm]

Last time some guy went into office and decided to do something fun for hin that other people didn't appreciate, we went into a world war

[jagged sentinel]

It's time for bed, go get back in your Tesla and try not to blame autopilot on the next crash you have, okay?

[hybrid charm]

WHATS WITH YOU GUYS, I HATE TESLAS, I HATE ELÉCTRIC VEHICLES

[kind osprey]

Are you actually stupid. Why are you comparing a car thay meets emissions standards and has such a good catalitic converter I could breathe the exhaust and won't even feel lightheaded.... to fucking murder

[hybrid charm]

YOU ARE LITERALLY BRAINDEAD, YOU CANT READ, WITH YOUR MF STRAWMANS

[jagged sentinel]

Keep talking dude. It's really going to make a fucking difference.

[hybrid charm]

Well, last time i checked co2 emission do kill people indeed

[kind osprey]

Damn @proper elbow @jagged sentinel @sage roost damn guys... I hate tesla so much

[hybrid charm]

I will keep talking, you keep talking about tesla or electric vehicles, i literally dont care about them

[jagged sentinel]

This guy💀

[hybrid charm]

You guys even have traitors among yourselvrs

[proper elbow]

pretty sure he is just trolling

[hybrid charm]

You are the biggest bozos

lmao

[kind osprey]

YOU GUYS HATE TESLA AND ARE KILLING JEWS. Me with a Jewish best friend and a tesla

[hybrid charm]

cope harder, not everyone thinks like you do, fascist

[kind osprey]

Fucking dipshit

[proper elbow]

Anyway. Here's a Montero.

[jagged sentinel]

Likewise

[hybrid charm]

wasnt talking to u but alr

[kind osprey]

There a reliable off roader scare the tree hugger

[jagged sentinel]

Yeah guys, this car kills babies daily with it's CO2 emissions

Now I have to dispose of it I guess

[hybrid charm]

Yeah cause you all live in congo in the middle of nowhere, you go buy your shark cards 300km away from your village without internet

That's why you need those pickups and offroaders, surely a corolla wouldn't be able to take you to work... but you guys are such pussies and femenine that you need a car to compliment your lack of testosterone

[kind osprey]

That thing literally spews air and water out the exhaust lmao you'd have to leave that enclosed for hours to feel light headed.
I think this dumbass still believes we use leaded fuels and no cats/mufflers

[hybrid charm]

Many parts of the world still use leaded

[proper elbow]

did you drink it

[jagged sentinel]

2 liter Ecoboost, oh man it's a dangerous little dirtbag

[kind osprey]

Well that sucks but not my issue to solve

Actually only like 2 or 3 countries as of 2021 still allow it

Doesnt mean it is still used there entirely though

[hybrid charm]

Still i dont understand what's with your lightheadedness?? Like if i smashed somebody's head would that be not bad because it would make them heavyheaded??

[kind osprey]

It should be outlawed

[hybrid charm]

There we go, "muh freedom"

how about i chop your legs and we talk about who's problem??

[kind osprey]

Your analogy's make me wanna shit on a turtles shell and drink baby formula

[hybrid charm]

Y'all entitled

[jagged sentinel]

And you're arrogant

[hybrid charm]

Alr im arrogant, but at least i care about the rest of the world

[proper elbow]

Genuinely considering one of these when they release (assuming they don't have 10k+ dealer markups) https://www.chevrolet.com/upcoming-vehicles/2023-colorado
2.7L turbo - 310 hp/430 lb.-ft.

[kind osprey]

So just because I like hypercars that produce less emissions than electric cars I am a bad person. Got it

Go eat a Koenigsegg

But judging by your comments you have no clue what that even is

Can't believe people like this fucking exist

Makes me livid

[jagged sentinel]

Plus there are hybrids like the 918 and P1 that make economy cars look like diesel warships

[kind osprey]

He wouldn't know that he's just a blind vegan or some shit

[jagged sentinel]

Probably drives a Tesla that has a license plate that says "nofuel"

[kind osprey]

Coming after the fun shit before touching mail trucks that get 9mpg and have engines from 1974

I could think of 50 utility and economy vehicles to make completely electric before ever touching anything with a v10 or a v12 engine

And unlike kill8ng supercars that sit in garages, my idea would directly affect people

Because what do you see more often

A mail truck or a fucking Lamborghini

A ups truck

Or a fucking BUGATTI

I can be a car enthusiasts and have logic and reason this guy has neither

And I'll defend my sole passion to my fucking death

[proper elbow]

I think his mom told him his computer time is up

[kind osprey]

This prick won't answer any of the questions I proposed he'd rather say I'm killing jews or whatever horrible analogy comes out of his mouth

[hybrid charm]

brother, you banned me

[proper elbow]

There really is no good argument against electrifying fleet vehicles first and foremost, easy to knock out in one fell swoop. ICE passenger cars can be slowly phased out as time goes on. The collector/exotic vehicles are such a miniscule, inconsequential market segment that they should just be classified differently and left alone.

[hybrid charm]

shame on you honestly

regardless, i will answer your questions, starting off with STFU ABOUT ELECTRIC CARS

I said already i hate them

You keep saying i love teslas electrics or shit when i stated already i hate them

That's a strawman fallacy fyi

[kind osprey]

Ok so lets get to something fun and not fucking delusional

Who wants to see these two monsters go at it

[jagged sentinel]

Man you really like those two words

[hybrid charm]

Did you say epikderwhale something about reason or whatnot?? Who's the one with the informal fallacies now?m

[hybrid charm]

Now you try to escape or smth when i called you out lol

[jagged sentinel]

You? Called him out? What? 💀 💀 💀

[proper elbow]

What's that top one? Looks ferrari-ish

[kind osprey]

Dumbass, I stopped arguing with your headstrong ass because you didn't answer a single question I proposed, and fucking treated yourself like you are on some high horse because you take the bus with smelly crackheads

If you want respect, give respect

If not fuck off

[hybrid charm]

I dont care about your respect

[kind osprey]

Lotus's new car

It's beautiful

[jagged sentinel]

No shit Sherlock

[hybrid charm]

Ask me the questions again, without the electric vehicles part please

and no misquoting

[jagged sentinel]

You're not worth arguing with

[kind osprey]

^

[jagged sentinel]

You've proven yourself to be incapable of having a respectful argument

[hybrid charm]

whats with you anyway? Are you the mod's pet or smth?? shut up man, let the adults talk

[jagged sentinel]

Excuse you?

It seems I'm a lot more of an adult then you are

[proper elbow]

TFW Epik forgets he's a mod and can just end this whenever

[kind osprey]

He's saying nothing wrong, why is he a "mods pets" for reading the room

Everyone dislikes you

[hybrid charm]

im saying that im talking to you rn, not to him (plane guy)

Btw how can you enjoy any american vehicle??

[jagged sentinel]

Fun is subjective

[hybrid charm]

Fun?

Boring ass car

[jagged sentinel]

Exactly my point

[proper elbow]

I enjoy driving around at 10mph in the middle of nowhere more than I enjoy driving quick

fun is very subjective

[kind osprey]

You walking into a car enthusiast channel on a car related game, call people braindead but offer absolutely no value information for any of us to consume you haven't said a single producive thing

[hybrid charm]

I offered you information but you still went ahead and ranted about electric vehicles

[jagged sentinel]

My enjoyment is barely even about the driving itself

It's that sweet, sexy rumble

Of an american cross-plane V8

Can't beat it

[proper elbow]

tbh the vehicle is just a tool. The fun is the discovery and exploration.

[kind osprey]

Hennessey venom f5, ssc ultimate Areo, Saleen s7, Hennessey Venom, Dodge Hellcat, Tesla Roadster

[hybrid charm]

A speaker in an audi can lol

[kind osprey]

May I continue

[jagged sentinel]

I'm not sure this would be a very good tool

[kind osprey]

It's an rc car you can sit in

It was never made to be practical lol

But damn

It's 2997 dry weight

[jagged sentinel]

I can never get over that sound

That bitch revs to 8500 RPM

[kind osprey]

Imagine bumping to some Metallica or Avenge Sevenfold on a windy forest road in this thing or a long nevada highway might be more appropriate

Idk how that thing handles corners

It is a hypercar they are top speed focused

[hybrid charm]

Y'all wouldn't handle a 600

[jagged sentinel]

This one is ESPECIALLY speed focused

[kind osprey]

A what?

[hybrid charm]

600

[jagged sentinel]

That's not helpful

[kind osprey]

I drive trackhawks like I'm in forza, I've been driving since I was 12 what can I not handle please elaborate

[hybrid charm]

whats a trackhawk?

[kind osprey]

If you said Porsche Carrera gt, I would say ya know, you are probably right then we could have a conversation

[hybrid charm]

600, bikes

600cc bikes

[kind osprey]

A monster

Oh I'm around 1350cc comfortable

[jagged sentinel]

A 700 horsepower family SUV

[kind osprey]

I don't ride motorcycles here

[jagged sentinel]

Riding bikes on Michigan roads is just asking for a face full of concrete

[hybrid charm]

"Yeah, this bad boy can launch windows 10 in 30 seconds, an absolute monster!" some guy selling me a pc

[kind osprey]

Motorcycles where I live is a way to die too many assholes on the streets

[hybrid charm]

If you all want power go get a semitruck engine

But it's fun?

[kind osprey]

Too much torque too much weight not enough horses

[jagged sentinel]

I would like to go over 90 miles per hour

So I will stick to gasoline engines

[kind osprey]

If you want something fun and nimble you want more horsepower

[hybrid charm]

You clearly can't have fun bc you are a security and safety pussy, you are scared and drive at 10 in a 30

The nimbless went away when you mentioned hp

[proper elbow]

What's a nimbless

[mint plank]

Keep it civil or don't speak. Simple. Insults have no place here

[kind osprey]

I feel like this guys a bot at this point I'm so confused where this is even coming from.

[hybrid charm]

nimblessness?

Idk what the term would be

[kind osprey]

I literally have a problem driving 140mph down residential roads (comment is for entertainment purposes only)

[hybrid charm]

you dont like bikes bc they are unsafe??

[kind osprey]

Yes... they are

[hybrid charm]

Don't crash then

[jagged sentinel]

Literal NPC

[kind osprey]

Idc about me crashing, I care about someone crashing into me....

I live in asshole suburbia in NYC

[hybrid charm]

if you guys only drive rc cars in straight lines that's not my problem

[jagged sentinel]

It's pretty hard to stick a 6 liter V8 into a motorcycle

[hybrid charm]

learn how to drive real power in real roads

[jagged sentinel]

Bro, just stop

[kind osprey]

This is a fallout npc

[hybrid charm]

Then why do you want a super powerful car if its just going to get crashed next monday??

[kind osprey]

It doesn't, I've never crashed on a public road

[hybrid charm]

then how are you afraid of a bike??

[kind osprey]

Do I?

Really have to answer this

[hybrid charm]

You are too short to touch the ground? Youll grow up

[mint plank]

The issue on bikes isn't you crashing. It's that literally every car driver hates you and wants to make you crash

[jagged sentinel]

It's not about him, dumbass

It's people crashing into him

Because not everyone is as aware

[hybrid charm]

I've never had a crash with my bike, even when it's superloud, cops don't care at all.

[jagged sentinel]

Bro💀

[hybrid charm]

bro💀?

[jagged sentinel]

It's not the rider that's the problem most of the time. It's other people.

Not everyone is as courteous or aware as they need to be around motorcycles

[kind osprey]

I've witnessed people have their heads become watermelons on Bikes... with all the proper gear and everything. Why would I risk getting hit by some old lady in a Buick.
I only ride Motorcycles on tracks and on private roads late at night

[hybrid charm]

Then be you the one aware

[jagged sentinel]

Jesus Christ

This guy just doesn't get it

[kind osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-star-wars-gif-8063259

[hybrid charm]

if you can think 2 seconds in advance you'll be safe

Brother

stop tailgating others and you wont crash

its that simple

[jagged sentinel]

[kind osprey]

Some Jojos bizarre adventure time stopping shit. Do they sell that at 7/11

[hybrid charm]

if you drive with awareness you wont crash

You act like you will get your legs beaten walking down the street

[jagged sentinel]

Am I going to have the shove this through your fucking chest just to get it where it needs to go?

[hybrid charm]

ok?

[kind osprey]

So if I drive the speed limit 30mph through a green light and a Honda Minivan ran the red light at 60mph and hits me that's my fault?

[jagged sentinel]

You
Can't
Control
What
others
Do
Around
You

You can't predict if they're going to give you space, give you the finger, or just not give you the space you need at all

[hybrid charm]

You got hit by a honda minivan? Pussy

[proper elbow]

The problem with bikes is that other drivers don't see you.

[kind osprey]

#memes-and-shitposting

[hybrid charm]

you cant predict if you will fall asleep instantly and crash against someone

Who's fault is it?

[kind osprey]

@jagged sentinel And I love how this isn't even about the environment at all anymore because motorcycles are fucking HORRIBLE for the environment

[hybrid charm]

If you came from a party and you were unknowingly drugged, who's fault is it?

[jagged sentinel]

What the fuck are you even talking about

You do not understand what we are saying

Plain as day

[hybrid charm]

??

you talkes about the honda minivan and i said that bikes had nothing to do with honda minivans

[kind osprey]

You are saying victims of drug rape deserve it, put no blame on the guy drugging the drink got it

[hybrid charm]

that being in a bike wont make it more likely to get involved in a car crashed

[hybrid charm]

another strawman?

[kind osprey]

Nobody said this

[hybrid charm]

Then why are you all debating bike safety?

[jagged sentinel]

For a reason you clearly cannot comprehend

[kind osprey]

Cars are 2 tons of metal protecting our body, the meat bag of a human is protecting the motorcycle.

It is easy as 2 plus 2

[hybrid charm]

Illustrate me then

[kind osprey]

I just did

[jagged sentinel]

We've been trying to do that for the past 15 fucking minutes

[hybrid charm]

If you cant explain it to a 5yo, then you dont understand it

[kind osprey]

I just did

You must be 4 and a half

[hybrid charm]

im 4.9999999999...

[jagged sentinel]

I bet you've never been in an accident that wasn't your fault

Those exist, did you know that?

[hybrid charm]

I've in thousands of close calls, but i guess that nay experienced driver can turn a crash into a close call

[jagged sentinel]

Are aware that not all crashes are the biker's fault? Those instances are what we've been talking about for like the past 15 minute. It isn't always the rider who's at fault. Sometimes it's the other drives in the road.

[hybrid charm]

Alright, you activated my trap card: if that biker was wearing dark gear and was driving at night, whose fault would it be?

[kind osprey]

Whoever crashed into him

Headlights exist

The color of a vehicle never meant shit

@jagged sentinel I gotta head out here's a parting gift https://youtu.be/KRQ2VMWCmx8

[jagged sentinel]

🙏

I should too, for my own sanity's sake

[hybrid charm]

wowwww that's a statement. You guys never go out on country roads without lighting?

Pagani's are shit honestly

[jagged sentinel]

One word: headlights

[hybrid charm]

One word: context

another word: mist

another word: substandard equipment

[kind osprey]

Just leave him lonely and go do your thing, he wouldn't last five minutes in the car community server so he can go there and get shreaded to pieces

I'll see ya around

[hybrid charm]

another word: the world isn't perfect

shreaded?

shredded my friend

[jagged sentinel]

You've proven that very convincingly

[hybrid charm]

Exactly, you think im dumb, i can prove you are dumb

you are in this eco chamber, almost an ego chamber, where you confirm your own bias and think you are right

of course im wrong, you could never accept any1 being right

[jagged sentinel]

Only thing you've proven is that you're incapable of a respectful argument due to your arrogance, so

Stick the the bike community, I'm sure they love having you around

[hybrid charm]

And what if i'm arrogant, can't you debate an arrogant person?

No, you can't debate a normal person, what's even a normal person?

You kept talking about electrics and it bugged me so fucking much

[proper elbow]

Ya'll still going

Oh, no

[deep summit]

Hello

[hybrid charm]

oh yeah

[jagged sentinel]

What are y'all's opinion on Mansory's take on the Ferrari 812 Superfast?

[proper elbow]

Terrible. Just like 95% of Mansory vehicles.

[jagged sentinel]

I don't mind their lambos

[proper elbow]

I hate that marbled carbon fiber

so much

[jagged sentinel]

Forged carbon

[proper elbow]

w/e it is, ugly

[jagged sentinel]

I like the look of weaved carbon way more

[jagged sentinel]

Makes them more Lamborghini then VW Lamborghini bothered to

[kind osprey]

This is one of the few mansory vehicles I like. I'm not too big on Forged Carbon but I like the body kit on this car

Like the shape of it looks really cool

[jagged sentinel]

It at least fixes the headlights for me

I like the kit tbh

I hate the forged carbon look though

I get that it's lighter and stronger and all that

Just hate its looks

[kind osprey]

Forged carbon apparently offers a lot of benefits but it also looks like a black countertop

So

[jagged sentinel]

Lmao yeah

[kind osprey]

Lamborghini co created it

[jagged sentinel]

With who

[kind osprey]

And now it is on everything

[jagged sentinel]

Boeing?

[kind osprey]

Callaway

[jagged sentinel]

Oh cool

An American company

[kind osprey]

Forged carbon is a lot less unpredictable than weaves I think

I wonder if it is cheaper to produce

[jagged sentinel]

It will probably get much cheaper over time

Weave carbon was insanely expensive at first

Now it's a dime a dozen

[kind osprey]

Yea back when the Mclaren f1 and the old Jaguars had it

It must've been like $10k for a little sheet of it

[jagged sentinel]

It also depended if it was pre-preg or not

Which stands for pre-impregnated

Funny name

Who was the first to use it?

It was NASA wasn't it?

[proper elbow]

In the automotive world I think it was Mclaren in the early 90's

No idea before that, but CF has been around since the late 1800s

[jagged sentinel]

I'm talking in general

I think NASA was the one who popularized it

[proper elbow]

More than likely

[jagged sentinel]

Gave it stardom, if you will

[proper elbow]

Too cost prohibitive to be used large-scale early on

[jagged sentinel]

McLaren brought it into the automotive world and eventually it trickled down into the mustang

Probably

[hybrid charm]

i highly doubt mclaren was the first manufacturer to present a streetcar with carbon fiber

[jagged sentinel]

Apparently it's the second one

The first was the jaguar XJR15

[hybrid charm]

When was the xjr15 unveiled??

[jagged sentinel]

1990 or 1991

Can't really say for sure

Apparently it was formally announced in 1990

[hybrid charm]

that's still a lot of time since 4/1 in 81

[jagged sentinel]

Since what?

[hybrid charm]

the mclaren 4/1

mp4/1 or idk

the f1, as in formula 1

[deep summit]

@stuck owl need help

How

[jagged sentinel]

We were talking road-going cars

[kind osprey]

Mclaren was solely racing up until like 1992

Or 93

The years kinda blur together

Because the Mclaren f1 was in development since like the late 80’s but it launched in the early 90’s

Such a beautiful car

[hybrid charm]

f1 ugly ass + made in britain

[kind osprey]

https://youtu.be/MkS4VkwnNSI

[raw scarab]

why

[final robin]

Wait a sec u used this pfp before right

I think i found a sneaky teaser
The normal g80 say m340i may come in manual after all

They already made the setup for the supra

Now in their patent they're using the lci g80 but regular

[raw scarab]

me?

[final robin]

Ye

[raw scarab]

no

[final robin]

[fading sable]

https://youtu.be/JS9XpOwa__A

Like i'm not as mad it's an CUV... but why they look like they tried real hard to fuse the new civic and charger fronts together?

[sage roost]

wtf is this lmfao

Looks like a raised charger from the front

[urban pond]

Literally looks like almost every cross over you’ve seen before lmaoo

[sage roost]

An Alfa Romeo tonale

Inside out

[urban pond]

Cross overs are cars for NPCs and you can’t change my mind

[sage roost]

Cayenne and stuff are cool

imo

same as the AM DBX

That’s about it really lol.

[urban pond]

Pretty much any like 100k+ new small suv

[jagged sentinel]

Trackhawk/Durango Hellcat

[sage roost]

I forgor 💀

[hybrid charm]

The most expensive pitching machine in existence

[urban pond]

I’d still say those would blend into everyday traffic tho

[proper elbow]

Don't those classify as SUVs? I thought crossovers were usually built on a car chassis

[jagged sentinel]

They're unibodies, so

[jagged sentinel]

Not when you depress the gas pedal with any sort of urgency

[proper elbow]

Hmm. TIL

[final robin]

I hate supercrossovers with a passion
An rsq8 is basically a poorly made rs6 if you think about it

U take an a6 avant, make it fatter and taller for 'practicality' then u lower and lighten it for the rs treatment

[kind osprey]

The rsq8 isn't an ideal example because that is still a capable suv for doing suv things.

I think a better example of a useless car is a Mercedes gle amg coupe

it delivers the downsides of a car, and the downsides of an suv

[final robin]

The rsq8 cant go over my roads kek

Gle amg coupe is worse yea

[raw scarab]

this is why you should walk

[sage roost]

This is why the cayenne is the best SUV ever made

[raw scarab]

I think you mistyped escalade

[sage roost]

Escalade is just UV

[gleaming prairie]

Facts

Cayenne turbo s is the fastest SUV

I saw it in a drag race..all stock: modelY, urus, x6M…etc

[jagged sentinel]

First time I've seen a lightning in the wild

[jagged sentinel]

Man, Dodge used to be cool

Granted none of this is really their fault

[heady swift]

tbf oil is derived from middle eastern countries and western nations have been invading them (for oil) since ww1

electric cars are the way to go, but the current supply chains are shit

[still harbor]

have you heard of hydrogen cars?

[heady swift]

yeah

it's eh

[jagged sentinel]

Infrastructure for those is even worse

[heady swift]

resource intensive process and storing hydrogen is also a pain in the ass

[still harbor]

İ have the big bomb

PUBLİC TRANSPORTATİON

[heady swift]

yeah

[still harbor]

ALMOST NON EXİSTENT EMİSSİONS

[heady swift]

pedestrianised cities with an emphasis on bicycles and public transport is the way to go

[jagged sentinel]

Isn't sufficient where I live

[heady swift]

but almost no countries do that

[still harbor]

america?

[jagged sentinel]

Yes

[still harbor]

Oh ok

[heady swift]

it works in some cities, but a train track in the middle of the desert doesn't work yeah

[still harbor]

but yea in rutual areas you can still use cars with internal combustion engines

[jagged sentinel]

That's already a thing

[still harbor]

oh yea im dumb

[jagged sentinel]

Not to mention public transportation busses just don't really go into rural areas a lot

[still harbor]

i would rather have gangsters than karens

you could use force against opps but karens are literal hellspawn

Like the worst of the worst

[jagged sentinel]

No gangster is going to use a fucking dodge hornet

[still harbor]

i mean the charger/challanger

[jagged sentinel]

Oh

[still harbor]

also you cant just attack a karen if she is attacking you or annoying you

[jagged sentinel]

If you can prove you acted in self-defense

[still harbor]

it is not possible

Those reddit stories are bullshit

[jagged sentinel]

I'm not talking about reddit, guy

A blog post isn't good evidence that you acted in self-defense anyway

[still harbor]

yea i meant that

[steep gate]

https://youtu.be/04aC16jXJng

Dodge has made a loud muscle sounding ev

[sage roost]

Ew.

This is slander to the charger Daytona name

[fading sable]

Rear looks alright

front.... looks like a tribute to something designed in the gta universe before R* switched vehichle devs

[hybrid charm]

lol

It amazes Me how some cars have the same engine but one is 20k and the other is 2 mil

[sleek umbra]

It’s all about that body and traction control dude

[kind osprey]

It looks like a Honda concept

The doors look very r35 gtr

[final robin]

To me its the rear that looks off actually its like they increased the size of the roof too much to fit the 4 bucket seats, even the challenger has more trunk

[kind osprey]

lol this is beautiful

[urban pond]

And people thought the Civic Type R fake vents were bad

[final robin]

I want ev hyper luxury gt
Like the rr spectre but like 3 times

Like that maybach concept

[urban pond]

Ngl I hope Porsche makes their synthetic fuel available to the public soon

[final robin]

That would be cool

[urban pond]

Then we can still keep our cool cars and not have to buy EVs

[final robin]

Yea

[urban pond]

Be really fucking funny though

Dodge does a full switch to EVs then Synthetic fuel comes to the consumer market

[final robin]

I think evs can be cool
Its the last days of the old technology versus the first days of the newer
Maybe one day we will have ev miatas lighter than NA, with 1000 mile range, 5 min charging and manual transmission

[urban pond]

I don’t think we’ll see a proper manual transmission with an EV tho

[final robin]

Who knows
I dont really see a reason for evs to have a gearbox but ig efficiency

[urban pond]

At least it’ll probably be a clutch less manual at and that point it’ll just be a sequential

[final robin]

I saw a video of a ev manual swapped 356

The flat 4 was the soul of the porsche but hey the concept itself is cool

[urban pond]

I just hope we aren’t forced to switch to EV legally soon

[final robin]

Of course

Besides cars dont cause as much pollution themselves as say the shipping industry

There's no point in shipping batteries all the way from china on container ships that use redinery oil

[urban pond]

And big ass ships won’t be electric for a long ass time

[final robin]

Exactly

I dont think there's enough lithium for that either

[urban pond]

I honestly feel like EVs will be a phase for cars

[final robin]

[urban pond]

And why do all EVs have such ugly wheels?

[final robin]

Aah same reason as economy cars, efficiency

Less width, less grip but hey less rolling resistance

There's this yt channel km77

Where the conduct the high speed slalom moose test on cars

All evs do absolutely terrible almost borderline dangerous

Because economy tires

[urban pond]

You’d think that EVs like Tesla would come with good tires considering their price point

[jagged sentinel]

Toyota filed a patent for that, actually

Basically an emulation if a stick manual

Or was it Nissan

I think it was Toyota

Either way

[urban pond]

I know Hyundai was doing a clutchless manual at one point

But I’d still argue a real clutch and manual is better than an emulation version of it

[jagged sentinel]

Thing is you can't really add a real stick to an EV

Since they don't have a transmission or any need for different gear ratios

Idk if that's the right way to explain it

[urban pond]

I understand what you’re saying tho

But again if we can get a Synthetic fuel from any company not just Porsche it would be great to keep those manual cars on the road

[jagged sentinel]

It'll be awhile before gas cars are phased out entirely

Banning their sales will come first of course

Oh, by the way

[urban pond]

I’m not sure what places are going to be the first to ban sales though

[jagged sentinel]

That Toyota patent does involve a clutch pedal iirc

So it's going to be as close as possible

[heady swift]

Synthetic fuel?

[mint plank]

E-fuels

diesel/petroleum esque not made from oil

[urban pond]

A green carbon neutral fuel for combustion engines

[mint plank]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrofuel

[urban pond]

Basically a way for us to keep to have our ICU engines and have them be as green as EVs

[heady swift]

Sounds like a lot of work for IC

[mint plank]

hydrogen is a good alternative. HCE

[heady swift]

The use of cars will decline in the future anyway

[urban pond]

It is a lot of work yes. But just as much work getting hundreds of millions of people to switch to EVs

[heady swift]

Not really, that's just a matter of installing charging ports

[urban pond]

It’s definitely a lot more than that

[heady swift]

The issue is people in remote areas, because charging there is a logistic nightmare

[mint plank]

And what good is that if the mining isn't sustainable to make the EVs, or the power production to charge them

it's verrrrrry complicated

[urban pond]

It’s an incredibly complicated situation

[heady swift]

Yeah, I'm not saying that the means of getting energy is sustainable

And child slaves working for our batteries is anything but ethical

But the same applies to fossil fuels

The entire industry needs an overhaul

3% carbon emission reductions won't do that

[urban pond]

Yeah it’s in dire need of a massive overhaul but it’s good to see a lot of car companies taking steps in preserving cars

[final robin]

I want thanos
No really say if 85% of the population instantly vanished the earth would be so much nicer

[empty niche]

⚡

[sage roost]

Electric charger

[hybrid charm]

I'm charging my charger with a charger

[sleek umbra]

I’m charging my charger with a charger while charging my phone

[hybrid charm]

I’m charging my charger with a charger while charging my phone with a charger in my charger

[sleek umbra]

Chargers are charging while the charger is charging with the charger while charging his charger

[final robin]

I blew up a powerstation so you two stop charging

[hybrid charm]

I cant charge my charger with a charger while charging my phone with a charger in my charger

[final robin]

[vestal garnet]

https://youtu.be/6KSVCpslIPM

[kind osprey]

Lfa successor with no lfa sounds

So I already love and hate this thing

It looks really cool

But yamaha v10

[vestal garnet]

LFA sound playing through its speakers 💀

[final robin]

Supercar Blondie

[dull siren]

yep another day in Penang Island

[final robin]

God it took me a while to realize it is a 488 not 458
I had a poster of this ffs

[loud spade]

https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/18/23311254/dodge-charger-ev-daytona-srt-concept-muscle-car-exhaust-sound

[kind osprey]

HAH

imagine

[brisk birch]

Ive seen this and i think its kinda. cool

[kind osprey]

I am confused at why it has Lamborghini wheels

other than that it is decent, I'm not awe'd by it but I do like how it looks sporty and has all that trunk/backseat room in it

That was crazy to see

[hybrid charm]

Hell nah electric muscle

This is the sequel to the macth-E

[loud spade]

It looks better than most EVs but I wish they’d made it a 4-door like it has always been

[proper elbow]

Charger had been a two door until the retro-refresh wave of the early 2000's

I kinda like how the new EV version looks. Very sleek.

Though I dislike the wheels. Manufacturers always over stylize EV wheels for some reason. Would have looked nicer without that inner ring, just extend spokes to the outside rim.

[kind osprey]

Always been?

The Charger was a two door they finally got it right lmao

[kind osprey]

Those wheels only work on something like the Lamborghini Veneno 💀

Like why are they on that dodge concept

They do not fit at all

[loud spade]

I must be living there, because I do not remember the charger being a 2-door

Oh wait, I read that totally wrong, lol

I was confused for a second, thought you were saying the charger was a 4-door till the 2000s

[hybrid charm]

Man; I like the NA1/NA2 NSX, but the people that fanboy so hard for the car drive me mad

Yeah, a purpose-built Supercar with an aluminium monocoque kept up with Ferrari during an era where Ferrari were prioritising making gains in the GT-car market

What a surprise

Most of these people think the NA2-line began solely with the 2002 model fitted with the "dog-eyed" headlights, when it actually began with the S-Zero in 1997; for an NSX to be an NA1, it had to have the C30A/B (usually a 5-speed gearbox from factory) as standard. For an NSX to be designated as an "NA2", it had to have a C32A/B (usually equipped with a 6-speed gearbox from factory) as standard.

NA (abbreviation of Naturally Aspirated) references the series of iteration between engines in different specifications of the car; "NA1" inferences models with the first generation C30, and "NA2" inferences models with the second generation C32.

The NA2 isn't just "the one with the clear headlights"; some of those (namely ones specced with automatic gearboxes) came with the C30, designating them as NA1s

Anyway, rant over

This was brought on by an argument I had with a devoted JDM fan earlier

[proper elbow]

I'm sorry to hear that, or happy for you

[jagged sentinel]

I'm going to love this college

[raw scarab]

https://youtu.be/3LfkTodFuxg

this is awesome

[jagged sentinel]

Mf in a recovery truck just coal-rolled everybody here

[final robin]

[buoyant vigil]

@verbal fiber#0047

Lmfao

Fucking hell

I hate discord pinging so much

@fathom oriole hopefully discord doesn’t fuck this ping 🗿

[final robin]

Damn
Bugatti and Koenigsegg making 2 bangers

[buoyant vigil]

You know it 🗿

[final robin]

Bugatti mistral
Koenigsegg cc 850

[buoyant vigil]

Mistral delivery is 2025/6 ish 😩

[final robin]

Aah well

The Koenigsegg made a gearbox that is both a 6 spd manual and a 9 spd auto

Mistral is basically a la voiture noire cabrio which is beautiful but not groundbreaking

[buoyant vigil]

Yeah I wanted to get the 850 but decided to wait for something else that isn’t quite public yet 😉

Very nice car though

(Also iirc orders for mistral came before the 850 which is unfortunate timing)

[final robin]

[stuck ermine]

Thoughts on the new type r?

[old sedge]

Is this still FWD?

[vestal garnet]

Yea ofc

[raw scarab]

front is a 👍
back is a 🖕

[vestal garnet]

True👍

[hybrid charm]

Bruh

Cant send car pic

[hybrid charm]

Doesn't look as try-hard as the FK8 does

I like it for that

But in a similar sense, it does look a bit more generic

Still prefer it over the FK8

[hybrid charm]

This shit didn't have antifreeze

[dawn sedge]

sup

[hybrid charm]

It started smoking

[dawn sedge]

nice

[weary trench]

They finally added it

[hybrid charm]

Wrong channel

[kind osprey]

They always will be

[kind osprey]

This os also how I feel about the Dodge ev

The front is fine but it's and odd fastback with absolutely no desirable details in the rear

It's blank af

[loud spade]

It’s almost like they tried to copy another car but ended up leaving the rear so they don’t get copyrighted

[kind osprey]

Who are they copying?

Because the rear of the sedan is fine it is the rear hatch that looks pretty dumb

[final robin]

Id still prefer the si sedan tho

[opal forum]

[loud spade]

No one, but that’s what it looks like

[kind osprey]

[proper elbow]

Oh no. Florida is leaking.

[kind osprey]

yikes

[uncut saddle]

[hybrid charm]

Finally i find were i need to be

[hybrid charm]

🔥

[final robin]

I do not know if its satire because i saw your toreador

[winged geyser]

I prefer the Bugatti this time tbh

[final robin]

Looks wise yea

But manual

[winged geyser]

[buoyant vigil]

Factual 🗿

[hybrid charm]

wtf

Lincoln L100

ugly as fuck

[raw scarab]

https://youtu.be/Tb5aO78Au1c

they really didn't need to put the subtitles in this

[hybrid charm]

60% random people and irrelevant scenes
40% car

[final robin]

Its an irrelevant car tbh

[loud spade]

LA influencer car

[raw scarab]

rich housewife car performance edition

[final robin]

[heady swift]

I still really hate most SUVs

huge inefficient cars that can hardly go off-road

at this point they're just bigger and lifted hatchbacks, which has minimal utility

[mint plank]

'hardly go offroad' Toyota LC 200 would like a word with you

or just

any landcrusier

lmfao

[heady swift]

I don't hate those

but majority of american and european brands make SUVs that explode if they touch water

pajero was nice as well

but wtf is this

spanish car, yet they can hardly handle spanish roads

[mint plank]

i hate

small suv's

but

full size suvs are amazing

[vestal garnet]

Compact suvs are just overpriced hatchbacks
And this trend needs to stop tbh
I would rather have a full size suv

[old sedge]

Vans like Toyota Rush and Honda BR-V are marketed as SUVs but personally, I think they're not real SUVs because they're not built for off-roading, they don't even have AWD or 4WD variants

7 seater wagons with 1.5L I4 NA petrol engines

I would prefer Toyota Corolla or Honda Civic for more adequate power to weight ratio than those so-called SUVs

[vestal garnet]

So called fwd suvs 💀

[old sedge]

I call those "wannabe SUVs" or "tryhard SUVs"

[vestal garnet]

[main cosmos]

2000 CIVIC

anyday

[hybrid charm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZhNLKnyFvs

3:00 "pole ist ster" 🗿

[final robin]

Totally agree
These body on frame fwd crossovers that can't go off-road are a symbol of overconsumption

[old sedge]

Would you guys consider the BMW X3 overpriced?

[final robin]

Yes

[reef ravine]

Hey ppl

[carmine swallow]

Nope

Especially if you compare it with Velar or Evoque

[old sedge]

I don't hate Paul Walker but no thanks, there are better cars for lower price.
https://www.topgear.com.ph/features/feature-articles/nissan-gt-r-paul-walker-auction-a962-20220822?utm_source=Facebook-TopGear&utm_medium=Ownshare-Photo&utm_campaign=20220822-fbnp-features-nissan-gt-r-paul-walker-auction-a962-20220822-fbnew&fbclid=IwAR1sqCjkbGZDJn9KkmUkrn0uG63YaNrX5jlip3q43I2g6oqS9Qhwm52mLn0

[proper elbow]

That isn't just any old V-Spec though

Gotta remember that is the car that an entire generation of car guys idolized

Driven by Paul Walker

[old sedge]

Even so, I would still buy better and cheaper cars

[kind osprey]

$577,000 for that is a bargain I was expecting millions by your reaction

Completely Normal ones of this exact model without any famous heritage or us registration pardons go for over $180,000

It genuinely doesn't surprise me one that is fully legal and owned by someone who was a big part of why the car is so famous would go for that much

Now I know that for the price this isn't bad if anything this couod be worth millions not too far out in the future. But you're 100% correct for almost $600,000 you could get a much better performance car

This will probably never be driven much and was bought mainly as an investment

[old sedge]

Sadly, driving cars with right side steering wheel would be illegal here

[kind osprey]

It's illegal there?

Why?

[old sedge]

Idk why but it's a traffic violation

It has to be converted to LHD

[kind osprey]

Here it's really weird to see a right hand drive personal vehicle but it's something nobody cares about law wise

[old sedge]

And we know that converting it to LHD will defeat the purpose of buying it

If people will buy it because Paul Walker drove it, then they would most likely keep it as it is

[kind osprey]

Well modifying a car with that type of heritage would most certainly hurt the value

Especially something as big as that

[old sedge]

Yup, that's why that modification will defeat its purpose

https://www.autodeal.com.ph/articles/car-features/why-arent-right-hand-drive-vehicles-allowed-in-philippines#:~:text=It is unlawful to import a right-hand drive vehicle&text=It is important to note,a private or public road.

This article talks about why driving RHD here is illegal

Oh wait, an exemption to this law is if it's vintage, like if it's manufactured before 1960 and in showroom condition

I guess Paul Walker's Skyline GT-R R34 is not covered by that exemption then... 😦

[old sedge]

On the other hand, a bill is filed which will legalize RHD vehicles here.
https://www.autoindustriya.com/auto-industry-news/bill-filed-to-allow-right-hand-drive-vehicles-on-ph-roads.html

Not like it's gonna be helpful to me but it's a nice law to have

[hybrid charm]

I'd rather buy an F355 CS previously owned by an F1 driver

[old sedge]

Wow, it's a lot cheaper

[hybrid charm]

Surprisingly road legal

[mint plank]

i'd rather buy an f1 car c:

[sage roost]

Esteban ocon’s force India sold for like $70,000

Which is a steal

[hybrid charm]

This one is up for sale

[sage roost]

though it’s just the chassis most likely

[hybrid charm]

Dummy engine though

[sage roost]

Arrows?

Oh ye

[hybrid charm]

Yep

[mint plank]

and then you Michaels cars going for $$$

force india is the exception

literally a money laundering team

[hybrid charm]

The site I'm looking at also has some former cars raced by Senna and Alesi

And Mansell

But they're POA

[mint plank]

oooo

oof

[hybrid charm]

So probably too expensive to afford

[sage roost]

It was an actual raced chassis iirc

[mint plank]

yes but the reason it went for dirt cheap was because the whole team was out to money launder xD

[sage roost]

https://retroracecars.com/f1-car-for-sale-2007-bmw-sauber-bmw-sauber-f1-07-06b/

Kubica’s 07 BMW

Holy shit

Mansell’s FW14B

is for sale too

[hybrid charm]

Yep

[lunar berry]

what

[stuck ermine]

Road legal?

[sage roost]

Obviously not

[hybrid charm]

day in a life of a bmw owner

jokes aside, it doesn't really need much oil, it gives a notification to top it off with a liter of oil every 30000km

[long wyvern]

@gray geyser launch is a bit lower on chat

[gray geyser]

👍

[long wyvern]

And this one's more recent

[gray geyser]

Jesus Christ that sounds beautiful

I want a rally car now

[stuck ermine]

Check engine light is actually a feature

[hybrid charm]

Never came on in 5 years of ownership

Previous owner also had 0 issues

[kind osprey]

First five years which means it's off the lease so the masterminds at bmw flicked the "car no work no more" switch after it became a pre owned vehicle

[sage roost]

This is why Porsche is the best German company

[final robin]

[old sedge]

How about Audi and BMW?

[urban pond]

BMW

Audi and BMW are imo the most boring looking German cars on the market if it weren’t for their badges I’d never be able to tell a 5 series from a 3 series

That and the whole heated seat subscription fiasco

[jagged sentinel]

I still can't tell tue difference between a 3-series and a 5-series

[urban pond]

Exactly, and don’t even get me started on the joke of a car that is the I8

[jagged sentinel]

At first I thought 3-series meant 2 doors and 5-series meant 4 but now I just have no idea

Germans just aren't good with names it seems

[urban pond]

Only Audis I like are the RS6 and the R8 rest are kind of alright

[jagged sentinel]

I don't outright dislike any Audis

At least not for anything having to do with the car itself or the company

[urban pond]

I just find them boring nowadays they all look the same

Like an A4 looks the same as an S5 or whatever their dumb name is

[jagged sentinel]

They aren't using V8s anymore so L company

Actually I think the RSQ8 still has a V8

But it's an SUV

[urban pond]

More SUVs in an already over saturated market

[hybrid charm]

truly hilarious

[hybrid charm]

What abt the rs6

[urban pond]

Isn’t the RS6 a 5 Cylinder?

[hybrid charm]

no lmao wtf

rs3 has a 5 cylinder

but i think next generation of rs6 will go hybrid

[proper elbow]

Audi hasn't used a 5 cylinder in ages

[urban pond]

Idfk they all look the same

[urban pond]

TT RS

[proper elbow]

oh, and the RS3 ig

https://tenor.com/view/the-more-you-know-gif-10358303

All I know is both Audi's I've had were fucking nightmares maintenance-wise

The 2.7T is a bitch and the timing chain on their older V8s made me sell the car rather than having it replaced

[hybrid charm]

Ah yes the timing belt

to all the manufacturers that put them near the firewall, i wish you a bad day

[urban pond]

Audis are nice cars till you have to fix them yourself

[proper elbow]

not a belt, these mofos

[jagged sentinel]

I mean all nice cars are nice cars until you have to fix them

[hybrid charm]

Ik wht you meant idk why i wrote belt but i just woke up

[jagged sentinel]

Which is why I'm skeptical about all the ultra-luxury stuff like the mercades door mirrors that you adjust by moving your eyes

[hybrid charm]

there's a timing chain replacement waiting me once i get back home although i should've done it 40000km ago

[proper elbow]

All that technology is nice, but it's fucking expensive god forbid you ever need to service it

Not to mention German manufacturers like to implement processes that can only be completed by their own computers, so finding a indy mechanic can be tough

[jagged sentinel]

I'd rather spend the vehicle's Invoice on power then on luxury gimmicks

[hybrid charm]

just buy a corolla, it might even outlive you

[proper elbow]

My next vehicle is going to be an 80 or 100 series landcruiser, either that or a new mid size truck

sweet sweet reliable simplicity

[jagged sentinel]

I have no idea what my next car will be

Hell I don't know if I will even keep my current one

[urban pond]

Im probably selling my old pulsar before I get my GR86 in April

[proper elbow]

The average cost for an Audi S4 timing chain tensioner replacement is between $3,172 and $3,760.

[jagged sentinel]

Holy shit

[urban pond]

Is that with the price of labor as well?

[proper elbow]

yeah

I was quoted around $3600 for mine IIRC

this was back when used cars were cheap, so that was like half the value of the car

[urban pond]

Only time it was good that used cars were expensive was when I got the write off money for my 86

[broken osprey]

man 4 timing chain belts o.o

[stuck ermine]

Lexus ls400 as my 1st car?

[hybrid charm]

If you can get one for cheap

The cost of maintenance is probably going to be about twice what it costs for your typical car if you want genuine Lexus shit

[vestal garnet]

Probably a Civic or Corolla imo

[heady swift]

A small and efficient honda, hyundai or toyota is your best bet

Easy and cheap maintenance, good reliability

Doesn't use a lot of gas

[sage roost]

On top of the maintenance

It’s a V8

Which is something you really don’t want in the current day and age tbf

[mint plank]

I Meannnnnnnnnnnn

yes, unless fuel costs isn't that big of an issue/you live in a large open country

[kind osprey]

The original 400 is old and big since it was the flagship sedan back in its day. It has a good aftermarket and is fairly reliable but I wouldn't get that unless you really really like it.

[kind osprey]

Saab and Volvo also make for a nice first car

[kind osprey]

It's also a Toyota so it balances out. For a sedan it's not the best mpg but it is city 16 highway 22

This car is from the early 90's so if you didn't have a v8 in your flagship luxury sedan you weren't even seen as german competition within the market

[heady swift]

yeah but volvo maintenance is expensive and saab doesn't make cars anymore

so part costs are rising too

[kind osprey]

Used Saabs are cheap and probably just gm parts

But yea I can see Volvo repairs being a little more

The brick era volvos last forever so that's good

[final robin]

True

Saab was a really nice brand

[old sedge]

Such beautiful classic, isn't it?
https://www.carousell.ph/p/mercedes-benz-180d-ponton-manual-1117459722/?t-id=2WsjplCwym_1661436312942&t-referrer_browse_type=categories&t-referrer_category_id=2151&t-referrer_page_type=category_browse&t-referrer_request_id=NasGASgPQUkEmr3U&t-referrer_sort_by=popular&t-tap_index=8

[slim iron]

https://youtu.be/BYXfg_5Oaq8

[stuck ermine]

Ah I see, I'm using it for long drives as my family likes to go on road trips. I want something comfortable and more luxurious

And lots of space

[kind osprey]

I don't know if i'd trust something like that for consecutive long rides, but Toyota has a good enough track record to make it not too much of a worry

[sage roost]

We used to own one

A 1990 LS400

we did lots of road trips in it

No issues

Got totaled unfortunately

[kind osprey]

the best usually do :(

[kind osprey]

That's good to hear

I wanna get one of these little farts

They have the funny supra engine so I can put 2000hp in it of course

[kind osprey]

This one has a nice side profile

[stuck ermine]

Bn sports kits alway look nice

[final robin]

Its a beautiful car

[winged geyser]

agreed

[final robin]

Rich kids getting news articles written about them in autocar

[urban pond]

aint no way that kid got a brand new RS6 without daddies money

[steep gate]

Dodge revealed one of the last call special edition dodges

[violet gate]

@long wyvern

[honest herald]

@long wyvern this is via @violet gate

[hybrid charm]

mclaren 🤌

[final robin]

Nice color too

[hybrid charm]

blue/grey

always is a nice colour

[violet gate]

yeah

car of my parents friend

It was so loud

even all people who lived there went outside to look

[reef ravine]

Dam

That’s real

[winged geyser]

hmm it's an RS5 but still true

[final robin]

[urban pond]

Same shit different badge

At least looks wise

[distant vine]

The older you can get them the better

[uncut saddle]

Definitely looks better irl

[raw scarab]

nice jaguars

[kind osprey]

I always wondered why are the best car shows on grass?

[jagged sentinel]

The most midnight club shit I've ever seen

I don't know what's going on with my camera here though

I think it might be having a brain hemorrhage because of what it just saw

[main cosmos]

U do need a better camera

But sick pics for cool cars

[uncut saddle]

Also so my favorite Lotus there

There were so many cars

[kind osprey]

Omg

That's beautiful

[lunar berry]

😩 always nice to see a f40

[uncut saddle]

They actually had 2 of em

!!!

Saw a Spyker C8 on my way there

[kind osprey]

You get to see all the cars in the fancy grass shows without having to fly 13 hours one way.