gtao-crew

[celest lake]

Make it 10

[warm grail]

ok now im stuck in terrobyte so haha

[simple solstice]

lmk when you join so I can sell

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[mellow void]

i'd be so funny if I stole it from you

specially after we sat for like 3 hours running up and down the same road

[simple solstice]

The levels of hell that would fall upon you

[celest lake]

Master is in the house

[simple solstice]

yay sell time

[celest lake]

Wait

Lets do business battle u will get more money

[simple solstice]

hmmmmmmmmmm

[celest lake]

I hacked get over here

[simple solstice]

lol

[celest lake]

Wtf

What happen?!

[warm grail]

thank you haha

[mellow void]

theres no 4th motorcycle, bugged

[celest lake]

Why was business battle canceled?!

[warm grail]

hm

can i cancel?

[mellow void]

leave and rejoin is about it

you'll lose 5% but its better than losing a whole vehicle

[idle jetty]

but there was, I even got on and off it

[warm grail]

alright ty u2

oh

[mellow void]

not a thing here

[warm grail]

it was weird from the start, im not worried about it anyhow

[idle jetty]

well fuck this game cause it's randomly giving me the checkpoint even when I'm not on a delivery bike

[warm grail]

xd

[idle jetty]

yeah this sale is cooked

[warm grail]

least it wasnt weed

[celest lake]

I have no work I'll join later maybe or maybe not

[idle jetty]

looks like it's 3/4 sold then

[simple solstice]

tfw no hdb for opal

[idle jetty]

sucks2suck (for me as well as I'd like to make 3 sales on stuff)

[warm grail]

i have documents too but they suck

[idle jetty]

it's time!

[simple solstice]

every gta player ever when its their time to return the favor;

[idle jetty]

don't worry I'll always help with your sales

[untold heron]

can someone invite me

to their club or ceo

[simple solstice]

somebody forgot to tell me to remove this stupid fucking missile battery off my NC truck

im gonna fucking lose it

im austin powers'd

[idle jetty]

need a hand up there?

[simple solstice]

I do but it might genuinely be too late

[mellow void]

its not too late, I can get you some assistance

be there in a min

[solemn stratus]

I am free to help with sells as turns out none of my stuff is very full yet

[untold heron]

why do i keep getting mystery and clothing on the well ive gotten both of em like 30 times in a row

[mellow void]

you ever tried hooking something but they won't sit still

[simple solstice]

thank you for the assist everyone

less than a minute to spare

[idle jetty]

[simple solstice]

you cannot hook this

[mellow void]

I did it to mine in this session, I think you are a little slow

Ironically I don't have sam though, its horrible

[simple solstice]

Let me go grab it again.

[mellow void]

someone asked me to test if it still works so thats the first thing I did

[simple solstice]

cooldown so straight back to LS

thanks for the ride woody

[idle jetty]

Once we've tested this I've got a special cargo warehouse, Bunker, and Weed I'd like to sell with you 3

[azure river]

yo anyone in the city invite me to their property?

[idle jetty]

Casino good enough?

[azure river]

yea

[idle jetty]

alright 2 secs

[azure river]

thankss

[idle jetty]

no worries

[simple solstice]

holy shit he got it

[lost sinew]

thank you crew, made almost 10 mil this sesh

[mellow void]

mines probably easier to grab

[simple solstice]

I swear to fuck I spent literal hours trying to figure out if you can grab the pounder if it has the stupid SAM on top of it

SAM I thought blocked the hook point entirely but apparently there is a tiny window of leverage

gg, the more you know

[mellow void]

not easy to grab when you are constantly moving up and down a hill :(

[simple solstice]

but im still getting rid of this fuck ass sam

[untold heron]

can we also do heists

[simple solstice]

No mat genuinely just struggled to even get the hook point even with me sitting completely still on a flat surface with no nearby obstructions

you can come back and try if you wish :)

seems like the hook need to get underneath the actual collider of the SAM from either the left or right side

[mellow void]

I already know where to hook it, Im good though, its not that hard with SAM but its way easier without because the hook just has to touch the top of the truck at any point, and lvl 2 armor is way better as well

[simple solstice]

uh huh

[mellow void]

you didn't even know you could hook it

[simple solstice]

Nope, apparently not, but from the looks of it it certainly isn't easy either

And why is level 2 armor better?

[mellow void]

less stuff its interacting with and I like it more as you get stuck much less actually driving it

looks nicer too :D

[simple solstice]

I dont think the barb wire actually has a collider does it?

[real saffron]

damn gooch

[mellow void]

The barbed wire doesn't affect hookage

[simple solstice]

Im not talking about hookage

I said collider not hook point

[lost sinew]

sorry!!!!

[idle jetty]

OI!

That's my associate!

[warm grail]

its okay 🥲

[idle jetty]

[lost sinew]

@warm grail sry bro bad habit

[simple solstice]

wtf is going on out there

[mellow void]

If we say sorry does that mean I can at least get a free murder off someone

[lost sinew]

plz take your revenge

[warm grail]

he mistook my gooch outfit

[idle jetty]

just need 1-2 more to start my sell missions please 🥲

[mellow void]

Im free

[idle jetty]

danke

[simple solstice]

me when woody doesnt give me a bibness invitational

[idle jetty]

it wouldn't let me

[untold heron]

can someone invite me to their sell mission

[azure river]

i have nothing left to sell

[idle jetty]

I have the 3 people I need to help with cargo warehouse, bunker and weed

[untold heron]

my mk1 is stuck in air

[azure river]

dam you and your mk 1 got bad luck

first getting blown up by a clanker

[untold heron]

fr

[idle jetty]

Also I could have done this sale myself for even bigger bonus

[untold heron]

its the 2nd time it got stuck mid air

[mellow void]

is that a gamble you wanna take though?

[idle jetty]

Always :^)

[untold heron]

is it better to buy supplies or should i just steal em

[idle jetty]

Buy

[simple solstice]

you still make money either way, the quotient is time as an investment

[untold heron]

iam buy then

[simple solstice]

most people consider the time spent more valuable so they will buy supplies

[idle jetty]

Yeah you spend less time getting supplies even if profit takes a hit

[simple solstice]

[idle jetty]

fucking Dune FAV's again

[warm grail]

oop

[simple solstice]

[polar parrot]

[simple solstice]

@polar parrot

[polar parrot]

Hello

[mellow void]

I lob this bug

[idle jetty]

wait what

[simple solstice]

me when the funny bug happens

[idle jetty]

😐

[warm grail]

just wait

[mellow void]

Pounder at this location will basically 90% of the time destroy automatically, why I don't own it

[idle jetty]

that is the first time it's ever happened here

[warm grail]

o

[idle jetty]

AND I LOST ALL THE PRODUCT

FUCK YOU ROCKSTAR

[warm grail]

peepoRiot

[cloud fiber]

What fucking location?

[mellow void]

Highway

[idle jetty]

Weed way up North

[mellow void]

far right side of map, pounder destroys when you get it

[cloud fiber]

A kinda bug Rockstar will never fix.

[simple solstice]

It doesnt sell them shark cards so yea

[cloud fiber]

Great. Never occured to me, but you never know.

[simple solstice]

in fact the opposite. sells more shark cards by existing

cause it causes frustration

their entire business model

[celest lake]

!money

[stiff sequoia]

The "best" way to make money is buying shark cards, you can refer to Rockstar store.

[idle jetty]

good thing I have cash as a backup sale

[simple solstice]

The fact that even exists but then mods won't whitelist tenor in the automod for associates / affiliates

[cloud fiber]

Yeah. These bugs make 2 effects:

• You stop doing that stuff, or lose interest to play all.
• You either get frustrated and pay Shark cards, or cheat.

[polar parrot]

Is buying money “making” money

[mellow void]

No, they are also kinda lying because shark cards cap at 50mil and won't credit any more after that until you spend more

[simple solstice]

me when the

[idle jetty]

gotta step away real quick, I'll let you guys do the sale

[simple solstice]

oops I dropped a plane in the ocean while you afked

you're welcome mat

[warm grail]

tyy

[idle jetty]

Yeah nice try Opal

[simple solstice]

He thinks i wont

[idle jetty]

You won’t cause you know I’ll never forget and get quite annoyed over it 🙂

[simple solstice]

Nah my own pride wouldn't allow it

Idc what you think

[idle jetty]

Yeah after the sale or on your own sale I really don’t care. Just not when it’s during my sale

[simple solstice]

Like a glove

[idle jetty]

perfection

I have coke ready if you're all ready to do 1 more, but if you need to call it a night then that's fine by me 🙂

[simple solstice]

Wall got banned for being a wall

[mellow void]

Im tired and hungry so

[idle jetty]

yeah no stress, we'll do it some other time 🙂

thanks for the help, especially with Cargo and Bunker

[simple solstice]

stupid ass dunes

[idle jetty]

time for a quick Cayo heist then methinks

[simple solstice]

lemme in

[idle jetty]

after this Coke sale

but also need to do it's setups

[simple solstice]

[idle jetty]

Unless you want to do the casino heist I’ve had setup but never gotten round to doing with someone

[simple solstice]

I've only done casino once and that was long con

I do feel somewhat confident in the basics and some tricks I picked up from that run

but eh

[idle jetty]

No stress, one day I’ll get it done and ticked off

[unreal tangle]

casino just doesnt feel that good as cayo imo

[simple solstice]

some people prefer cayo, some prefer casino

[polar parrot]

Noobs prefer Cayo

[simple solstice]

I need to do more casino before I can really form an opinion, but it seems alright

[polar parrot]

Casino always been better

[unreal tangle]

i dont like to be stressed by a time limiut

[azure river]

casino is more fun to do ngl

and rng dosent suck as much as cayo

[simple solstice]

Big if true

Legitimately took me 67 cayos before i saw something other than tequila

[unreal tangle]

but can you do casino in 6 minutes?

i mean i have casino scoped

i just cant be arsed to complete it

should i spend all the money i earned on the sell session yesterday on a weponized ignus?

[old raptor]

Yes

[unreal tangle]

can it be used in missions tho

and does it have the ignus spoiler

that goes up and down

[solemn bison]

it can be used in missions but the minigun is useless

it can barely angle

[unreal tangle]

i think ima just get the normal ignus then

[pliant veldt]

I still have 6.7mil left over from yesterday's sell session, even after buying myself another car

so I have plenty of options on what to buy

[unreal tangle]

i wish i realized earlier

so i could fill my bunker up

[pliant veldt]

also fill up hangar, that will make you 3mil

source narcotics and chemicals so your hangar is half narcotics half chemicals

[unreal tangle]

the missions are just so tedious

ik i was starting to get the sourcing missions

[pliant veldt]

yeah, they are sorta annoying and repetitive, but that's just grinding in general

[unreal tangle]

yeah ima buy the normal ignus

let me just finish this dr dre

now this goddamn cutscene

[pliant veldt]

you can just skip the cutscene, thankfully, if you've already done it once

oh yeah

[unreal tangle]

is savage that good?

[pliant veldt]

yes

it has a really strong cannon

in fact, the same one the Lazer and Hydra had before they were nerfed

it will shred through anything armored

[unreal tangle]

how much researchable stuff is there for tampa

😭

[pliant veldt]

a lot

[unreal tangle]

its so annoying

i just want oppressor rockets and ap rounds

[red comet]

I love my Tampa in private, in public, it dies way to easy. I barely get the guns wound up and boom... LOL

[pliant veldt]

hollow points are also busted if you give them to the heavy revolver mk2

[unreal tangle]

i want ap for my heavy machine gun mk2

[pliant veldt]

it deals a lot of damage by itself, but with hollow points you can almost one shot players on the ground

[pliant veldt]

you don't need it, just get an extended mag and you have 200 bullets which deal decent damage by themselves

[unreal tangle]

aww

i thought ignus has the extendable wing

[pliant veldt]

several cars have active aero, including the T20 and new Luiva

in fact, when I realised the Luiva had active aero, I immediatly took of the spoiler I gave it

because the stock wing looked way better than the other options

[unreal tangle]

yeah but i thought ignus has it

oh well

still looks really good

[pliant veldt]

if you want to know if a car has a specific customisation, like active aero, I recommend checking out Buckacherz, he has several videos on car mods

[unreal tangle]

whats the path for ingame photos

[pliant veldt]

use P and go all the way to the right

[pliant veldt]

you can also just take screenshots and post them here

[unreal tangle]

never mind it has the wing

i cant take gta screenshots

crtl shift S is not working

[pliant veldt]

I use windows+prtsc

[unreal tangle]

is dont have prtsc

i use 75%

[pliant veldt]

this is how the cannon shoots

[unreal tangle]

oh damn

[pliant veldt]

sadly it has a smaller range than the pre-nerf Lazer/Hydra cannon

even after buying the savage I still have 4.3mil left over

hmm, what else can I buy...

alr first 750k spent on salvage yard safe

[unreal tangle]

i wish you could automate buying supplies

[pliant veldt]

alr another 1.01mil on security room and sleeping quarters in my facility

[unreal tangle]

ur just spending it on useless shit?

[pliant veldt]

not really

[unreal tangle]

i understand sleeping quarters

[pliant veldt]

sleeping quarters means I can spawn there if I wanted to and security room means I can spy on people

[unreal tangle]

you can spy on people using the tv

i have no idea why people dont know about this

[pliant veldt]

huh

ah well, I already spent it

[unreal tangle]

is weed worth it

like on normal weeks

[pliant veldt]

if you own Smoke On The Water, yes

[unreal tangle]

how do i buy it and how much

i bought the car was for the sole purpose of boosting cash factory

hmm

[pliant veldt]

you can buy it if you go find it at the beach or buy it from mazebank foreclosures

[unreal tangle]

only 400k for weed factory + 850k for smoke on the water + around 2 mill for upgrades

dang

all the charts dont include money front dlc

eh might as well buy it

[real saffron]

it's a solid investment lol

[unreal tangle]

every passive income is good tbh

[azure river]

whats the name of this car

[azure river]

Document forgery

[real saffron]

ignus

[unreal tangle]

ignus

[azure river]

the weaponized ignus?

[real saffron]

bought weaponized one yesterday because I got 10% coupon at the wheel lol

[pliant veldt]

regular

[unreal tangle]

regular

[pliant veldt]

btw @unreal tangle which TV are you talking about? there are dozens of TVs in the facility

[unreal tangle]

apartment tv

[pliant veldt]

oh

[ivory solar]

What would y’all say the best money making business is

[pliant veldt]

damn, I could have indeed saved some money on the security room

[pliant veldt]

depends, probably hangar if you do it right

or special cargo warehouses

they also make a lot

[unreal tangle]

Kosatka for active bunker for passive

[pliant veldt]

you get waay more money from the hangar and special cargo

also nightclub dominates passive, since you get 50k every in-game day

and if you keep doing the small promotion missions, i.e kick out the troublemaker or deliver the VIP every 2 in-game days, you ensure you have 100% popularity to keep the daily income at a maximum

[azure river]

hangar gets way too dam repetitive

[pliant veldt]

that's grinding in general

Cayo Perico also gets repetitive

[azure river]

well the biggest pain for me rn is completing 201 agency contracts

i dont need to do it but have to as a sense of completion

[pliant veldt]

it is worth it in the end since you do increase your daily income at your agency

[azure river]

cayo might get repetitive ya but hangar its just so boring to do alone

[azure river]

yea i have done around 84 contracts right now almost half way done

[pliant veldt]

I understand, I have suffered through it by myself a lot, but it will be way more engaging and fun than Cayo, which can sometimes make a bit less than 1mil, especially if you get Tequila or the Ruby Necklace

[real saffron]

even solo i got 1mil minimum from cayo

that said i always did it on hard lol

[azure river]

i have done cayo so much i always get elite on it so an extra 100k each time

but in general if you just keep playing the game keep buying more passive business everything (except document forgery) your gonna end up making shit ton of money

and cayo got too boring for me so now me and my friend are just doing casino here and there making 1.1 each

[pliant veldt]

I have done everything right during Cayo and still the NPCs somehow find me

oh damn

[azure river]

oh i actually completed that just by outsourcing xD

[real saffron]

same lol

[azure river]

with vinewood outsourcing is so easy

[pliant veldt]

I got the ornamental egg from spinning the lucky wheel lol

[azure river]

wait lucky wheel does that?

[pliant veldt]

yes, if it lands on mystery

[real saffron]

i got a car and a bike from mysteries lol

cheap ones but still

[unreal tangle]

and i cant get anything cuz gambling is banned in poland

[pliant veldt]

damn

I didn't know that was a thing

[real saffron]

yep, r* disable wheel of fortune in countries where gambling prohibited

maybe entire casino gambling is disabled too i dunno

[pliant veldt]

I got 3 cars and a bicycle

the cars are: Praire, Faction, Blade

[real saffron]

i don't remember the car but bike was bati 801

bicycle too but i forgot about it lol

don't even know where it is

[pliant veldt]

I know mine is still in my main apartment

[real saffron]

hmm actually mine is prolly there too, haven't been there in ages lol

[pliant veldt]

I wanted to go take a pic of mine but I ended up trying to protect another guy's bunker shipment, but it ended up getting destroyed

[pastel minnow]

the second sell sesh alr passed right

[unreal tangle]

if anyone is doing something and needs help im down

[unreal tangle]

i hate avisa hangar mission

[elfin osprey]

i need help

[elfin osprey]

you can help me

[simple solstice]

hello how can I help

[elfin osprey]

lets play teniss

[simple solstice]

eh

[elfin osprey]

It is needed to complete my daily challenges

@simple solstice just 1 round

[simple solstice]

can you at least join my session cause I just started moving stuff around for my car sourcing

[umbral steppe]

coming soon apparently

[mellow void]

That it is, although if you wanna see full modification stuff I can show you in online, hes playing story mode

[umbral steppe]

my mind's made up i'm buying that and sprunking it out

[mellow void]

Although totally honest, it looks way better stock than with all of the mods

[umbral steppe]

sign me up

i saw a few variants yeah

about to get afk kicked XD

[keen quiver]

Do you know about blocking missions?

[grizzled sentinel]

omg when did peak drop ?

[umbral steppe]

not yet mang

saw it in a preview vid from Hazard on YT

[mellow void]

Real ones dont block them and suffer

[celest lake]

Damn no crew session today?!

Even though it's Sunday

[simple solstice]

it right here

popping off!

[celest lake]

I can't see the time though

[simple solstice]

what

[celest lake]

At what time it started

[simple solstice]

why does that matter?

I've been in here for at least a few hours lol

'Official' crew sessions are only fridays

[celest lake]

Ahhhh I forgot abt that. I thought it suppose to be on sat and sun

[celest lake]

Hai hai got it

[unreal tangle]

No

[keen quiver]

https://www.reddit.com/r/gtaonline/s/FaLRhDKUxq

[unreal tangle]

hmmm

feels like alot of work

ima try air missions

everything is great

except this fucking link

is opening my own social club

😭

https://socialclub.rockstargames.com/member/PolarisLily/jobs

[idle jetty]

I might actually try this method one day to grind out hangar missions

[pliant veldt]

damn, I just realised I managed to get 2 golden miniguns

and in my newest cargo warehouse, too

this is all the cargo inside it

[restive ether]

im selling my weapos stock but when i get to the drop off it dosent deliever

tf im supposed to do

[pliant veldt]

I suggest going into another session. you will lose a bit of the stock, but you won't lose it completely

[unreal tangle]

man its so boring

[unreal tangle]

how do the crate warehouses work

[pliant veldt]

you buy them in the office

sourcing either you pay 7500 for staff to do it, which can produce 1-3 crates and can rarely give special items or you pay 6k to source 1 crate by yourself, with you being able to source 3 crates at one time, so you pay 18k for guaranteed 3 crates

depending on the type of warehouse, you have a certain amount of storage, 111 crates in large warehouses

and you can own 5 warehouses

around 60 crates sells for 1mil already

so 111 crates sells for almost 2 mil

you have 5 warehouses, that is 10mil if they are full

[pliant veldt]

about that much, yeah

but it's really hard to fill up unless you have people helping

[unreal tangle]

im mostly solo player

[idle jetty]

it's still doable solo, but if you get ones with 3 individual crates it's a bit more time to go back and forth

also that fucking Lupe ocean dive mission can fuck right off

Anyways I'm past $50mil now after another good week making money

[unreal tangle]

hangar might be hell

you keep doing it

but theres no progress to be seen

[idle jetty]

hangar and Special Cargo are the most grindy tbh

though if you have friends for hangar it can be done quicker and easier

[unreal tangle]

who in their right mind

would willingly help someone else do hangar

(me i guess)

[idle jetty]

me 🙂

[unreal tangle]

wait fr?

[idle jetty]

yes

[unreal tangle]

let me invite you

[pliant veldt]

I did reach 263 sold crates when I last sold, so it does get me forward to completing the career progress mission

[idle jetty]

welll

not a good time tbh 😅

[unreal tangle]

ohhh

nah ur good

[idle jetty]

some other time though, it would be a good way to kill time as passive businesses fill up 🙂

[unreal tangle]

yeah

Anyway to bypass afk kick?

[idle jetty]

rubber band on a controller

[unreal tangle]

cuz i have session with all the missions blocked

[idle jetty]

or a macro targeted at the game window

[polar parrot]

If you start the missions from your terrorbyte you can’t get that mission supposedly.

[idle jetty]

yeah but I'll park my Terrobyte out the front of 1 warehouse, then after that go to my arcade to start another source mission for another warehouse and bypass the cooldown

which comes in handy for these 3 that are all right near it

[pliant veldt]

I also own the large warehouse that is just down the road of the one one the bottom

this is in fact what my map looks like business-wise

[idle jetty]

yeah I need to rethink where I have warehouses 4 and 5 now that I have all the cash for it

[pliant veldt]

I used to own only 1 cargo warehouse before I joined this discord, that being your 3rd one

later I bought the rest

after I realised their potential in money making

I wish I had started doing them earlier than I did

would have made way more money

[idle jetty]

I remember the days where it was the main money making method before bunker and hangar came out

[pliant veldt]

I remember I used to do heists for money, mainly Doomsday since that was the best money-making heist in late 2019/early 2020(I got my first notebook for Christmas that year)

I may do them on occasion, but I've just been doing other businesses since they, combined, have made me way more money

that's for example one of the reasons I don't like doing Cayo, since it got nerfed so much and is, in my opinion, only worth it if you have someone else helping you

because you can't take the gold if you're doing it alone(unless you somehow glitch into the rooms, but I don't know how to do that)

alr time to spin the wheel, hoping I can finally get the Envisage

oh come on R*

they're literally teasing me with it at this point

I somehow managed to win the Furia in the Casino 2 times but I can't get a vehicle that's been there for like 3 weeks

speaking of the Furia, this is the first one I won, actually being one of my best vehicles early on when I started

and this is the second one, still stock when I got it from the Casino

[polar parrot]

I usually only do 2 at a time and just park my terrorbyte between the 2

[unreal tangle]

room glitches got patched in the same update that nerfed it to the ground

[pliant veldt]

yeah, that's why it didn't work when I tried

well, it just shows that R* wants people to instead of grinding, so they nerfed the best money making heist to the ground

[idle jetty]

yeah if I'm doing 1 and 2 (on my screenshot) I'll just run to my arcade from 1 to get crates for 2, and then once that's done go to the terrobyte outside 2 to source crates for 1

then when I change warehouses I'll just have the terrobyte inbetween #3 and #4 that's down below it

[unreal tangle]

and increased prices

[pliant veldt]

yeah, also

[unreal tangle]

oh my fucking god

rockstar crashed while i was eating

so all my mission disabling went to shi

[pliant veldt]

as an example, close to 2.9mil for a new shitty EV supercar which has performance comparable to low tier sports cars, but it's also bugged if you give it anything other than stock mirrors

man, the good days of when money meant actual performance for cars

even if they were cheap af, like the Kamacho and Toros

they have way better performance than some newer vehicles

the Toros can go faster than even the HSW Astron Custom, because it is basically bugged

since you can curb-boost with it

[unreal tangle]

which one?

[pliant veldt]

it's pretty obvious

[unreal tangle]

oh the extreme shi

[pliant veldt]

indeed

it also apparently handles like shit

I should test that out tho

thankfully I have a track for that

and I can test it out without even buying it

[unreal tangle]

wait fr?

how

im done with the hangar

for today atleast

[pliant veldt]

I have a race for that, but I just now realised I may not be able to, unless I update the race to include new cars(if I can even do that)

ah well, I can test out a car I wanna buy soon

yeah, I can add them

great

[unreal tangle]

can you send me the link

im checking out cars by doing dr dre high society mission 😭

[umbral steppe]

"meatballisgood" XD

[simple solstice]

[weak bone]

yo

how are we boys and girls

anyone remember how many mid and standard range cars i need to have to get top range every single time?

[unreal tangle]

Just keep filling till you stop getting the mid and standards

[weak bone]

Ohh alright, appreciate it

[umbral steppe]

wth i keep getting badsport kicked

then i got crashed

cheaters can do it without you actually being voted out. i had just joined

[simple solstice]

Yup, happened to me yesterday. As soon as I went to initiate a vote kick on a cheater I was instantly removed from the session instead

Public lobbies are cooked, not that private lobbies are safe

but they're safer

[umbral steppe]

some otehr guy a month ago said i had a "cheater" flag on my account, but like, no? lol. i've played clean for the life of the game. i've had this on my acct since 2017. it's my only copy of the game

might explain why i was targeted, but even still, i JUST joined

did you get the badsport thing?

i was for sure targeted because it was a completely full session

[simple solstice]

yup, got a warning saying that I left a job

kinda hints towards what they're exploiting to initiate an insta-kick like that

[umbral steppe]

that's the one, actual badsport kick (some cheaters do one that just igves you that screen)

i read up on all of it so i understand what's going on and i know a tiny bit

they're using some offline gamesave/stats thing to avoid detection

not sure how it works but it's called FSL and the menu du jour is called Yin Menu

[simple solstice]

Afaik there isn't such a thing as a "cheater flag"
but they do have methods of detecting other cheaters and that could produce false flags on regular users

[umbral steppe]

the old detection method was that people thought it was a "banwave," but that's not at all what it was. they'd just upload the signature of the menu du jour then each update, would include that.

how hard would it be to pay some entry level person an entry level wage and they'd just upload signatures as the cheats were updated

yes that's my understanding as well

[simple solstice]

Signature detection does virtually nothing besides stop only the most basic of script kiddies

Signature spoofing & rotation has been a thing for over a decade

[umbral steppe]

there's such a thing called "High Earner" flag, it's in the game code, but that's nothing to do w/ cheater. at best there oculd be some way of detecting someone previously banned, but that's wild speculation, and i've never had anything like that

yep and when they'd "update" the cheats at the time, they'd just comment-out one line or whatever and it's as good as a 'new version' bc it wasn't detected

[simple solstice]

even that much isn't necessary but yea

[umbral steppe]

assholes

[simple solstice]

Took longer than I expected it to for them to start flooding enhanced

but as of the past couple weeks

they are flooding

[umbral steppe]

a lot of people say emotional stuff like "THIS IS DUMB THEYRE GOING TO LOSE A LOT OF BUSINESS!!!!" but they never will, they have a product everyone wants, and most eventually come back to

[simple solstice]

Everyone is gonna go back to playing in private lobbies and eventually we'll start seeing 'firewall' tools pop up again

[umbral steppe]

"here and there" previously ----- post-mansion DLC or maybe just before it, it's like 2019 all over again

there's this pakistani account (i have the name written down, it's just consonants) and the guy would follow me session to session, and when i was in invite-only, he'd jump into jobs i'd be playing alone. something you obv know they're up to these days

andt hat's the aspect that has people the most pissed, i think, cutting into private missions

explosion loops. i figured out that if i kept a doomsday heist invite handy, i could warp to my facility and the explosion loops wouldn't hurt me there. theyd get me everywhere else

[simple solstice]

Yeah from what I understand private sessions aren't even safe anymore because they just scrape RIDs on people and then leverage this in some way to bypass the handshake for whether they are actually eligible to connect to a session or not

[umbral steppe]

sounds about right

back in the day there would be very rare, but cool things, like someone figured out how to switch on old old old freemode events like 'distract cops' for lester and pretty much everything except OG crate drops

smuggler plane, armored truck, joyrider vehicle, etc.

that's just tunables though, i think, and like 1 other thing

[simple solstice]

Seems like that would all be tunables

Not super familiar how those are screwed with, think it involves hijacking the host scripting authority, injecting their own values, and then passing it back

All I know for sure is that if this kind of pace is kept with cheaters destroying public sessions again, and they start going after private sessions, this game is dead in the water

gonna end up like an mw4 lobby

[umbral steppe]

pretty much lol

it's a script host thing not a session host thing - you're right

i really want to play, i go back to work tomorrow after being out wed-fri ;(

[simple solstice]

I'll probably continue to host crew sessions until I get bored or until cheaters start ruining those as well

[umbral steppe]

thank yous

[simple solstice]

[idle jetty]

I tend to hop into invite only sessions where it’s just me, but I might do the same as you and have crew-only sessions for others to join

[simple solstice]

yup never a bad call, used to just hide in invite only sessions as well then realized "well closed crew is the same thing but might also give others a chance to chill out as well"

[idle jetty]

And always the extra possibility of getting a part of the HDB

[simple solstice]

also yes

[marsh hollow]

Anyone down to help with selling?

[umbral steppe]

i dont see ur name on crew list online atm

i eat soon anyway

[simple solstice]

anybody feel like helping a brother out?

[reef hazel]

It's 3am

Me no want gta at 3am

[simple solstice]

[marsh hollow]

They should seriously fix these missions

Why do they require 2 players

[celest lake]

[mellow void]

If anyone wants some cargo ran for them for sourcing, Ill be helping with hangar and special warehouse cargo for a while if anyone would like to do so

[simple solstice]

I dont have cargo to source but I do still have a mission that requires 2 people for some god forsaken reason

[mellow void]

say no more, thats all I needed to hear

[marsh hollow]

I don’t have cargo to sell but I need to sell my MC businesses if you’re able to?

[simple solstice]

How to tell when wall is bored out of their mind

[marsh hollow]

This game needs another update pronto. Can't wait for the weekly update

[mellow void]

well I just got done with a 16+ hour shift, so yea

[simple solstice]

Oh thats lovely

[mellow void]

we're going to get hooked on energy drinks until our body gives out so we'll be doing gta until then

[simple solstice]

I've spent the better part of today basically rebuilding some infrastructure from scratch

so my brain is mush

Im hopping on shortly but if you have other stuff you want to run first, by all means

[mellow void]

nope, maybe unless @marsh hollow wants to rid of their stockings in their very festive businesses of joy

[marsh hollow]

Hmm?

my businesses help deliver Christmas for all the people of GTA

They are totally not illegal substances

[mellow void]

Its just snow

[marsh hollow]

I need to sell snow, Christmas tree leaves, Christmas candy, and monopoly money

[mellow void]

I forgot I was just absolutely ripping this outfit and vehicle last sell session

[marsh hollow]

Is the outfit attainable?

[mellow void]

Not currently

[marsh hollow]

Ok

Lemme know when y’all are in a session and I’ll join up

Idm doing those CEO work missions

[mellow void]

I wonder why it shows SCTV slots in the 1/30{32} member thing, weird

[jagged parcel]

Why so serious

[mellow void]

My character is just depressed, you know how it is

[simple solstice]

There are lots of weird things on discord

[marsh hollow]

What in the GTA code is this

[simple solstice]

@wispy ledge sorry I accidentally invited all friends

you can ignore that

[mellow void]

same here with these toos

[simple solstice]

Those ones do go hard

[mellow void]

I threw on the securo fit for these missions we are doing

[simple solstice]

im just wearing my tryhard fit lol

[celest lake]

Why i mean why I mean just whyyyy

[simple solstice]

I dont usually change outfits all that often

[celest lake]

I only changed once when I started this game

[simple solstice]

Oh no

[mellow void]

I heard the phone go off but I've yet to load in

[simple solstice]

the loading screen of infinite despair

[marsh hollow]

I need an invite

[mellow void]

time to resource strain your game so it kicks me out :D

[simple solstice]

say no more

[mellow void]

maybe invite me to the session first

truly a gta moment of all time

new money glitch

[celest lake]

124$!?

[marsh hollow]

that can't even buy you a gun

that's literally a day of work for me

[simple solstice]

Put this one down in the any% category

we're gonna be so rich

[celest lake]

50$ is enough for night time

[mellow void]

why are you buying guns, everyone knows you gotta steal them

[marsh hollow]

true

it's grand theft auto

[simple solstice]

OH GOD IT PUT ME IN A PUB LOBBY

REEEEEEEE

[marsh hollow]

hundred theft auto

[celest lake]

Should I join too

[mellow void]

I think you screwed me over man

I loaded in with 5 stars and theres a whole warzone out here

[simple solstice]

I got put into the trenches same as you

and I invited you already

[mellow void]

Im not even in the trenches, Im in no mans land

[simple solstice]

If you want, I just want to get this mission done for trade price and then im probably gonna run security contracts nonstop

[mellow void]

and then I get thrown into a lobby with this griefer

[simple solstice]

maybe do some sourcing between

[celest lake]

I want business battle so I can fill up my nightclub

I can join for like 2min

[simple solstice]

mission first

[mellow void]

opal how is your car getting pushed back by my stock rally car

[simple solstice]

because I was going in reverse

[mellow void]

sure thing

[marsh hollow]

Where was my invite 🥀

[mellow void]

Oh no Im not flying

[mellow void]

I think he skipped out on your invite

[marsh hollow]

🥀

[celest lake]

Opal

U idiot

Get out of your active job

I didn't paid the game so I can spectate you

[marsh hollow]

What did I just watch

[mellow void]

I did

[marsh hollow]

[celest lake]

Lol opal I saw that

[simple solstice]

Not me flipping upside down like a turtle because im reading chat instead of watching the screen

[celest lake]

Whol thing

With my 2 eyes

[simple solstice]

[celest lake]

Uktra hd

[marsh hollow]

Enhanced

[celest lake]

[marsh hollow]

[celest lake]

The staff at Rockstar must've died laughing rn

[simple solstice]

WHY THE FUCK AM I IN A PUBLIC LOBBY

?????

[marsh hollow]

Infinite loading screen?

[celest lake]

[marsh hollow]

gg

I’m with Larzy and Wall

[mellow void]

cause securo serve missions always load you into a public lobby

[simple solstice]

mission fails
game throws me into a public lobby by myself in the middle of nowhere

[marsh hollow]

[simple solstice]

[celest lake]

So who's lobby we joining ?!

[mellow void]

probably opals since he left so soon

[marsh hollow]

Could I get an invite this time?

[celest lake]

Oi sussy baka invite us

[mellow void]

Ah yes, the car that has steering, maybe

[simple solstice]

it might have steering

possibly

[mellow void]

How many times we doing arms embargo?

[simple solstice]

assuming I dont turn into a turtle again

only this time

[celest lake]

Inv

[simple solstice]

I am

spamming

invites

ok well

I'll spam invites to the lobby instead

I guess

[celest lake]

[mellow void]

what?.. I just loaded out and theres something under my car

[celest lake]

Ehh my screen froze

[simple solstice]

check your damn invites

god

[celest lake]

Any ideas what should I do

[simple solstice]

resource monitor

[celest lake]

The end process thingy?!

[simple solstice]

how to tell new age players from old age players

yes you suspend process

10 seconds

then resume process

[celest lake]

[celest lake]

Nope still aint working

[simple solstice]

kill it

[celest lake]

I gotta upgrade my lappy

[mellow void]

[simple solstice]

well

wall is here

so

I may as well just get this done

and then people can sell or source or whatever

[celest lake]

Wall is everywhere

[simple solstice]

but not floor

[mellow void]

floor is over-rated

[marsh hollow]

I’m currently grinding clucking bell

[celest lake]

How many players does it required to get the business battle

[marsh hollow]

I think 4 or more?

[simple solstice]

Wall

[celest lake]

[mellow void]

truly a good view though you can't lie

[marsh hollow]

Blur

[simple solstice]

somewhere in here, there is a game

i just haven't found where

[mellow void]

Alright, re-invite me but send me an invite to the org and the office

And then start it

[simple solstice]

WE'RE FREE

[mellow void]

nvm

[celest lake]

@simple solstice why r u on active job again

[simple solstice]

took too long

[mellow void]

I don't think that was in the script

where heli

[celest lake]

@marsh hollow r u in lobby !?

Or u doing ur own thing in invite only sessions?!

[simple solstice]

wall

[mellow void]

okay so the tank sitting there which I knew about blew me up because I couldn't flip over

Also I don't wanna hear it from you, you failed on the easy part of it after the tank

[simple solstice]

I also became a victim of not being able to flip over

[celest lake]

[celest lake]

Invite me this time

[mellow void]

theres only 2 cars

[celest lake]

Don't invite me this time

[simple solstice]

me when the

I hate that heli

[celest lake]

Okay so my technician aren't precuring goods

I've been in game for like 2hrs the stock is still stuck at 24

Any ideas what should I do?!

Or do I have to keep the popularity full for them to work?!

[simple solstice]

businesses running?

[celest lake]

Ehhh the stock is full and the supply is also full of every business

[simple solstice]

stock / supply dont matter

just whether its not shut down

[celest lake]

Wait I have to be ceo right

[simple solstice]

[celest lake]

For them to work?!

[simple solstice]

Invites hath been sent.

[celest lake]

Alr I suck at this game I know ain't been 1 yr since I joined

[celest lake]

So I have to be ceo for them to precure goods right?@

[mellow void]

[celest lake]

Yeh I hate to sell them and again buy or steal

I only sell of bunker n nightclub

Others r like that

[mellow void]

"why won't my already full business produce more goods"

[celest lake]

Not those

My nightclub technicians r not precuring goods

[simple solstice]

Nightclub produces irrespective of the actual business stock / product levels

[mellow void]

and did you check their icon says "not suspended"

[celest lake]

Ehhh how do u see that

[mellow void]

Im aware, I don't think they know how to actually look at most of the nightclub stuff

[mellow void]

if you look at the techie, it shows either a person or a ‼️ next to it in the corner

[celest lake]

I'm sure they aint suspended thpugh let me check

[mellow void]

If you aren't 100% sure you aren't sure

[celest lake]

[simple solstice]

its beautiful

[celest lake]

Oh nvm they working now

I played for around 2hr yesterday not been a ceo thpugh

I thought it has nothing to do with it

[celest lake]

So cargo,sporting, south, research and cash

The main ones I should I go for right?!

[simple solstice]

south, cargo, research, sporting, weed

usually cash > weed but the weed bonuses apply right now

[celest lake]

So no research ?!

[simple solstice]

my guy

[celest lake]

I'm just following the sequence someone told me 5months ago

[simple solstice]

read this again

[celest lake]

Gotcha

[simple solstice]

https://youtu.be/3nOxdKcqC_I?t=12

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Wfs8Y93eVY @mellow void

This video enters my mind whenever I see you

I just wanted you to know that

[celest lake]

Me?

[celest lake]

[mellow void]

I was chatting with a discord gta e-gangster in #gta-online when you sent this 💔

[simple solstice]

a what

[mellow void]

A discord, grand theft auto, digital gangster

[simple solstice]

a wuhat

I looked and saw anything but that

[mellow void]

chat with him, find enlightenment

The name, profile picture, the mutual servers you won't see thankfully but hes basically flexing mods on poor people

[celest lake]

Where

[mellow void]

Are you alright 💔

Confusion is normally something that is pre-life threatening if you have it constantly as a response to abnormal changes in health

[simple solstice]

larzy does not seem to be perceiving very well today

[mellow void]

@marsh hollow cargo of varying flavors is wanted to be sold

[celest lake]

Yeh I guessn

I got some things to work on now

I'll join later if I got time

[simple solstice]

You should probably work on getting an MRI

[celest lake]

U need new pair of brains

[simple solstice]

I have two left sides of a brain and they work just fine

❤️

[celest lake]

No

[mellow void]

No need to flex on us 💔

[celest lake]

Just one time I got confused on goods alr

[simple solstice]

you got confused all over the floor I was just expressing genuine concern

@celest lakehttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/WPK9k74J7fg

this video makes me think of you

I just wanted you to know that

[mellow void]

why's his video a cute and adorable dog and mines a middle aged man with a recorder in the corner

[simple solstice]

his name is richard

and he's sitting in the corner

[mellow void]

his eye contact is concerningly good as well

[simple solstice]

so good that he doesn't actually blink a single time in the entire video

wall hiding in out of sight next to my agency

hmmm

[mellow void]

[simple solstice]

[celest lake]

You know you THINK a lot

[simple solstice]

I'm sure you can relate

[celest lake]

[celest lake]

Caz I'm me everyone loves me

[mellow void]

I don't think opal is going to find me guys

[simple solstice]

oh im not even looking

im waiting for this security contract cooldown

[mellow void]

obviously, if you weren't looking, you still won't find me

fuck

I hate the gooch

@marsh hollow are you good?

[simple solstice]

get gooched

@mellow void are you north, south, east, or west

500 meters is a decently large area

[mellow void]

Of you, on my map, viewing you, or on the map itself

cause you are kind of north of me on my map, Im south

[simple solstice]

as in actual cardinal direction

not really relative

[mellow void]

Im driving around too

[simple solstice]

err I guess it would be relative of the actual circle

[mellow void]

But your north of the circle could be my south of the circle if we view it like that tho, perspective

but Im now west of it in the circle

[simple solstice]

No, if its relative of the circle that would mean north of the circle is north on the map

[mellow void]

oops, missed bribe so I got ghost inside my ghost area

just so you know I still have bright green hair

you are so cheap

[simple solstice]

how

[mellow void]

fat npcs

now you'll never find me

[simple solstice]

ugh

another reason I hate these stupid self driving cars

[mellow void]

[simple solstice]

I can only assume you know what I am doing

and therefore you are probably staying very close to me

[mellow void]

who says Im even in the circle anymore

[simple solstice]

ghost would have expired by now

[celest lake]

Finding wall is like finding a proof of an alien existence in universe

Must be using a non hack tactics

[mellow void]

does he not know my circle covers the casino too

he found out too much

[simple solstice]

[mellow void]

I shouldn't have stopped there

[simple solstice]

very interesting that the few things that could determine your location in an instant dont seem to work

[mellow void]

once I figure out what kind of stuff you use its easy to hide from you

excluding when you literally just cross the whole circle and use that stupid thermal one

[simple solstice]

merryweather for some reason dont know that you exist

and you somehow coincidentally have a bounty set on you by nobody

technically I've already found you, you just blew me up for some reason

[mellow void]

uh nuh uh

no thermal this time and you are good, although my spot is horrible

[simple solstice]

[mellow void]

• casino but he doesn't show it

[simple solstice]

so anyways

[mellow void]

choices choices

[mellow void]

you're'nt any fun for hide and seek

[simple solstice]

Considering what I've seen

you aren't either

[mellow void]

when your opponent is going to use every trick in the book to avoid doing the normal thing and simply looking, probably

although that car probably should have been riden of

[simple solstice]

crew should do a proper slasher session again

[celest lake]

I want racing crew. Some f2f transformation ones point to another then repeat those straight races

[mellow void]

racing kind of got boring for me when people do it just to win over actually "racing"

And ontop of that the custom cars, slipstream and catchup all be enabled really made it feel dead

[simple solstice]

f2f isnt racing

what

[mellow void]

even without slipstream and catchup off, custom cars makes it entirely unfair for people with bookmarked job playlist who host it knowing the tracks and vehicles they can access for them in comparison to someone just joining in with a stock car

[simple solstice]

also im pretty sure slipstream / catchup was only enabled once for crew events here by accident

shouldnt be enabled

its so bad

[mellow void]

Custom cars is always on whenever I did attend races and I doubt it was changed

haven't done them in a while so Im not sure but I can imagine its not changed

[simple solstice]

oh well custom cars is... ehh

some people absolutely swear that custom cars should be enabled and its totally fair cause just grind more bro

and then people bring literal modded cars

[celest lake]

Lol those people suck. I never do racing for winnings I do it to disturb other person

Damn I remember i did racing with tuna katto n martol they were legit crying

[mellow void]

Ah yes, the level 5 EMS upgrade equipped to a car that shouldn't have it

[celest lake]

Exploded them like a billion times

[simple solstice]

yea that did happen

[mellow void]

Gta race style also sucks for "racing" as well, whoever has first place basically wins by default since they can throw bombs every turn and kill everyone behind them

[simple solstice]

it was very cringe

because the guy swore left and right "its a legit car bro ur just poor"

[mellow void]

I quit racing in actual mission races due to all of the people who don't wanna actually race, I like free-roam racing more

simply go point A to point B and whoever finishes first wins, easy

[simple solstice]

the one f1 race the crew did was probably the most fun I had in a race even though I was awful at it

and even that one had some little sore losers that were cheating in some way or another

races just need to be hosted proper. Good maps, no custom vehicles, no catchup / slipstream bs

done deal

I probably dumped dozens and dozens of maps into the playlist but I stopped playing shortly after so I've no idea whether they ever got hosted

[mellow void]

I would join if thats the case although I don't believe they really cared for what I said on it, racing just isn't for me I guess since I can't simply enjoy it for the fun of the game

[simple solstice]

Some people just have really weird opinions when it comes to crew events but I can't really comment any further then that

[mellow void]

that emp caused my heli an unrealistic amount of damage over time

[celest lake]

Ehh i don't like those races. I'm talking about something else

Randomized face to face races

That one I'm talking abt

[simple solstice]

larzy doesn't like races, he just wants uncoordinated chaos

[celest lake]

U got me right there my buoyyy

[simple solstice]

security contracts got me fucked up

[mellow void]

uhhhhhhhh

[simple solstice]

[mellow void]

how am I supposed to get to my hangar that I own now

this thing is bomb proof and ram proof, Im out of options

[simple solstice]

you go inside

[mellow void]

[simple solstice]

hmm

do I feel like hot cocoa

or green tea

or moka

[mellow void]

also theres like 6 military guards for this one gate
strange

poor guys

they almost collectively have enough braincells to figure out theres a gate there

[simple solstice]

Wall, why are you harassing the poor soldiers

and why have you not told me what I will be drinking this evening

[mellow void]

Im sitting within their sight distance, but not within their firing distance effectively creating an AFK wanted level
Also I don't know

[simple solstice]

Very interesting

Usually their pathfinding swaps over if they can't reach you

but there is no-where to path

so they're stuck

[mellow void]

they keep spawning on the other side of it, also 1 kill spawns another 4 in a jeep, strange

oh I got rapid fired by a tank

[simple solstice]

[mellow void]

Maybe messing with the military isn't such a smart idea

[simple solstice]

rapid fire tank