#4 O'Clock / DOOM
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the add on All The Things keeps triggering a flase value everytime i walk by something that needs to be interacted with
Anyone check the pirate area in old arathi? Behind the keep near the cave
doesnt that mean you havent completed something?
all those names belong to leaders:
Leader of the SI:7
Leader of the Blood Knights
Thane of the Wildhammer Clan
Highlord of the Knights of the Silver Hand
Queen of the Dragons
Queen of the Dark Iron Dwarves
Something about Power?
Or ruling
theyre the ones who fired Ratts?
maybe you're right it wasn't this long before no ? was there the part about temporary agent of the timelines ?
agreed, to an extent, but remember, we couldnt have gotten 3 o'clock done without clues from both upstairs and downstairs
Alyx keeps talking about her bosses
I want this title so bad
Anyone check the pirate area in old arathi? Behind the keep near the cave
she clearly works for someone and that person or persons fired ratts
why did ratts get let go?
i bet that has something to do with
nozdorumu maybe lol
I found the duck, in MOTHERLOAD, from downstairs. Any ideas about it?
Time services = marvel time agency reference? Anyone check time dungeon or thaldrasus area?
theres several ducks
Since they are all rulers and this is presumably greed, could it be linked to a greedy ruler
Ok, but do they mean anything?
I know some toys turn your fishing bobble thingy into other things. Can you turn your fishing bob into a duck? Who sells you that?
Mogross in Dalaran
Any progress since putting muffin on hold??
maybe we should try and figure out how to solve 10 and getting past the alarm, since it adds another small orb to the pillar. For now IMHO I think the muffin is not yet ready to be found.
yeah, our mental health has been steadily declining
they said muffin will be halfway point
I spent several hours discovering absolutely nothing new. Does that count as progress?
i dont think duck is one of them though ):
Anyone check the pirate area in old arathi behind the keep near the cave? Or Dawn of the infinite dungeon for time agency where ratss used to work?
It is. Requires 'Friend' with them
Muffin is halfway meaning maybe, like the gem, it’s not an object you just find like the peculiar key. Probably takes steps to get it
Duck is definitely one he sells for 100 drowned mana
I’ve checked both but it’s worth another person confirming
how we tracking muffin men
I feel like the fact that it's a Muffin and around a pirate themed area (pirates like gold) is supposed to say a lot about it.
Makes me think about Cookie from Deadmines.
we need to get away from the muffin
Soon as I spend mine on that gem thingy I'll get away from it 🙂
It's too late for us. The muffin has already won.
No! The muffin only wins if we give up 😛
weve been tracking a muffin for over a day
Anyone got any leads I can follow up on?
we need to start looking in other areas for other clues
no, thats the point im trying to make
We get anywhere with the books?
Did we check Mechagon ? Isle + dj ?
since people are talking about ducks.. anyone check DoS? since Millhouse is a <Duck Expert Extraordinaire>?
That poem mentions "The time of now for long ago"...
I asked if anyone checked tournanent isn’t he there?
3 books in the arcane lock room:
- Memoirs of the Lucid Nightmare Mystery
- On the Telescopes of Draenor
- The whereabouts of Papa Duck
Am I correct with this?
those books and watcher books also
Does anyone have the TOY "[Crate of Bobbers: Squeaky Duck]" ? Any then, maybe try to attach it and fish in the "drop down water" when enetering the catacomb (it
It's fish-abel, but can't catch anything
and there is another book in there I forget what it was called.. i'm not there atm.
Giant something
Tulips?
Anyone find ratts book about her giant tulips? Cant remember name
So, all of the combat curios Brann gets are idols - think it's worth checking in delves? I saw it mentioned but didn't see if anyone followed through.
at this points its gonna be sheer dumb luck instead of following clues finding this thing 
Tulipa Gigantum and the Hundred Voices
I said something in the felcycle channel earlier... I feel like the duck floaty/ big red button over the door are linked to Motherlode... Wondering if there is a connection to the greed statue as well because of the goblin thing? anyone have anything they think may also be linked to this?
I know it’s been thoroughly searched but maybe not all npcs interacted with @modest cosmos
I know people were also trying Gnomer for the red buttons
Getting junk from that pool with the duck bobber so far
I tried to fish for 10 min, with no bobber - caught NOTHING. so it's an improvment?
- Memoirs of the Lucid Nightmare Mystery
- On the Telescopes of Draenor
- The whereabouts of Papa Duck
- Tulipa Gigantum and the Hundred Voices
I did this today. It’s just crap. I also fished around the rubber duck by the cat room.
Or perhaps archaeology for finding a golden idol?
I did check the vender in the middle of the dungeon but still only carries one BFA reagent. Was honestly curious if anyone else had any leads that might help. and yeah @floral burrow that was kind of how I got here too...
We used fishing in catacombs to locate something. I thought other professions would help too like cooking and archaeology since everyone can use
also all the siren style lights in motherlode too...
Could the fact that the goggles help us see wayyy better through water mean or help in any way ? Just realised while going back to the celebrations after last quest with them on & off to see if anything changed, please tell me if its just me ! Underwater muffin
?
And all the levers with the numbers
Is only me or this look like a pressure plate..... maybe withthe rigth statue...
I've tried multiple statues on all the platforms and it hasn't had any results
yeah there is a "slot machine" style thing in here too... I was hopeful! lol
Also makes me think about the muffin. There are a lot of restaurants in motherlode, people serving drinks
I found a cave in kun lai where made water see thru and there was revealed to be some mogu markings under it. Nothing worth fishing out of tho
RIGHT!
I thought we checked the motherlode pretty thoroughly.. I’ll go through myself for giggles in a minute
with what
we had to fish in the soup
current mood
picasso.. I like it
Battleground temple
these are in DoS in Millhouse's room
The pvp map where you hold/capture them. It's pandaria themed
Where’s he live
Are any of the notes or accessible clues in the catacombs cooking related or relate to the muffin in any way?
De Other Side
we tried that
Has anyone tried to jump into the crow's nest that looks like a cupcake to see if its inside of it...?
also crystal.. sort of like the one in the catacombs?
No luck on where to get the muffin?
Going with the theory 9 and 1 might be 9.1 I can state Tazevesh as a whole and the weird vendors inside do not have anything.
The rotting apple kinda matches upstairs bedroom of the Dalaran inn, theres an apple core on the bedsid table
Did anyone check the Dalaran Bakery?
a gold muffin idol probably isn't in a bakery, but yeah, we checked
What do goblins/pirates/bakers all worship as an idol though
josh already said the muffin is towards halfway
i mean, who says the muffin is related to goblins, pirates, and bakers, though. the goblins and pirates already led us to booty bay
we arent close to being halfway
The entire greed puzles clues so far say that
did anyone check dalaran ruins?
could be as someone suggested yesterday...a vendor shuffle item
I fail to see why exactly it wouldn't be in a bakery but ok 🙂
checked the ogre mounds in deadwind pass. nada 😦
every time I check in on this channel, folks are stuck on the same questions and locations that haven't worked out so far, I honestly think we should be trying different approaches. Something other than "I went to a location with piles of gold"
the text says itsa golden idol
Find anything else in the dg?
nothing yet, going to clear the whole thing and back track since that is kinda what happened in VoTW for the watchers thingy
is there a ball of yarn toy?
nothing up here in motherlode
or a mouse?
i'm at the point of looking at mythological creatures that enjoy baked goods etc.. to see if we can link that to wow somehow for the muffin
fairies for example
Anyone check the Timeless Isle (Behind the Waterfall Cave)
A muffin turning to gold makes it seem like king midas. But I don't know anyone in wow that turns things into gold like that. Maybe a titan thing. Tyr lost a hand, midas lost a hand to gold

Secrets are hard because I don't even know the answer to every day's trivia at the anniversary daily guy
what if its someone who covets gold so much that a golden muffin wouldnt be out of place?
Maybe we should look at other clues that take us somewhere else that leads to the Muffin. We have part solves on some orbs, maybe part solve another?
I checked Halfhill market in Pandaria (lots of cooks/chefs) with the goggles on and talking to all the NPCs and didn't find anything.
Yeah been thinking Gallywix, but nothing yet
either way, Josh alreeady said the muffin was closer to half way into the puzzle
Blood trolls in Nazmir worship grotesque idols. A “golden idol” could easily fit as a rare, sacred artifact in a similar vein.
What part of that statement makes you think we are not half way into the puzzle with our 9 pieces of hate now?
I thought Jani but she doesn't have any new options when I go to her trashpile
Just going in circles at this point. I feel like I’m only seeing the same statements now
look at how many orbs we have so far
have we look down i vashir?
been rabbitholing this. makes more sense with Gallywix's dad being a baker..
Been mentioned not explored
maybe we go ther and see if we find anything
because there's 12 orbs around the felcycle
I'm petting all the cats in Dorn with my starry-eyed goggles, in hopes that one of these fatties can give me a clue to the cat room https://docs.google.com/document/d/131fcTrkJA-AYc-Xus1DZt7SqN5TariPlMoRP7lqF984/edit?tab=t.0
The Cats of Isle of Dorn Within the City of Dornogol, there are 5 different coloured cats, one of which is found to be sitting on top of a letter.There is also a female Earthen Dwarf NPC who can’t find Ruufus in her Dialogue. Gilbertha (Dwarven NPC can’t find Ruufus) - /way #2339 63.0 23.8 G...
Anyone check downstairs IF where magni used to be trapped ?
@tight jewel did that too don’t forget one outside lol
And one under table
Yeah they answered with that, I get it now. Just thinking that we're still solving 4, and it seemed like part of 4. Maybe it isn't
Anyone run through tram with torch??
Gallywix’s Pleasure Palace(The over-the-top, gilded mansion of Trade Prince Gallywix screams wealth and decadence. A golden muffin idol could be hidden in his vault or by the poolside, blending perfectly with the surroundings.)
there's nothing in Gallywix's palace we've combed this place countless times
Today’s top exhausted ideas:
1.) Muffin rare
2.) Gallywix treasure palace
3.) Jeremy feasel
4.) Motherlode
ya. didn't find anything. others have as well
the map also
^^^
The Vault of the Archavon (Wintergrasp)
This Titan repository is full of treasures and artifacts, making it an ideal spot for a mysterious golden muffin idol. Its snowy, fortified exterior contrasts beautifully with the treasure theme inside.
Has anyone found a reference to the fire breath debuff in the red button room?
burning with intrigue?
Checking brawlers guild and vip area
No but i got it to 30 stacks before i died
The Hidden Chamber in Blackrock Depths
Blackrock Depths is filled with secret rooms and treasures, including the infamous Grim Guzzler tavern. A golden muffin could be tucked away in a forgotten treasure room, blending perfectly with the fiery, molten environment.
These have been chcked:}
- Gallywix's palace
- Oppulencer Boss
- Both Dalarans
- Bilgewater Harbour
- Timeless Isle
- Dornogol
- Boralus
- Tazavesh
- All Grummel outposts
- All bakers (shatrath/Valdrakken etc)
- Feasts areas (Crednor feasts video reference)
- feasal mob in Krokrun
- making thousands of muffins
- making muffins in the gold pool in the Zuldazor Dungeon
- Jani's trashpile
- Halfhill in Pandaria
- Food vendors in the horde/alliance outposts in Vale of Eternal Blossoms
- Zulgurub
- Booty Bay
- Rachet
- South Sea Pirate/Ghost Pirate Areas
the coffer room?
The vault where the code for the machine in room 430 was found
Has anyone checked coffer room? I mentioned that day one lol
is there an AI emote
Halls of Origination (Uldum)
This Titan facility is an ancient bastion of immense knowledge and wealth. Its Egyptian-style gold-adorned interiors make it a natural fit for hiding a golden idol, perhaps in one of the lesser-used wings or a puzzle-locked chamber.
Please stop posting chatgpt ideas
no worries, only other thing I am thinking about is the ball that reacts to the torch in that room, looks like the same orbs you have in Temple of Hotmogu
no? lol
they read like real estate listings and require no thought
I dont honestly care what they read like friend, it's ideas
it is, i was just talking about it in the channel. Ive tried it with pvp on and then wm on, no change
chatgpt responses are explictly called out as not allowed on the discord. stop. #felcycle message
I think the goal is some people want to struggle and solve everything single little thing.
Others just want a felcycle now.
So out of respect, try to keep the AI hunting to yourself where you can.
Unless the AI finds the golden muffin, in which case DM me
Things I have checked:
- Jani trashpiles
- Halfhill market (Pandaria)
- Ruby Feast (Dragonflight)
not good ideas, lol
That doesn’t mean you can use chat gpt to bounce ideas off of and help with leads
I’ve been using it to scour old wow lore
perhaps its more to do with the zone of the BG itself, which is supposedly in the vale
You're petting cats...lol whatever
Vashjir is very large. Do some people want assist looking for deluxe tuna or muffin idol?
Motherlode definitely doesn’t have anything at this point of the secrets. I even went all up and down the sewage and shit
might be other orb models similar that react, I'll investigate
I wish someone would pin what has been checked to stop the constant re-threading of ideas
the muffin description calls it a "Golden Idol" and "Completely pointless" might be reading into it too much but any other instance of golden idols anywhere?
wasnt there a golden idol in a hozen camp in jade forest?
I can think of tons of completely pointless things
Completely pointless is the hint that refers us to the vendor in Booty Bay
maybe a golden orb?
Can anyone with high-level archaeology check if there are any races that have digsites that might merit the digging-up of a muffin idol?
Maybe, as an Idol, it's being worshipped somewhere?
I dont understand the hint, could you explain it?
I don't have all the races unlocked yet
idf if worshipped, but there is definitely a golden orb npc https://www.wowhead.com/npc=51157/golden-orb
looks like throne of four winds
-"Pointless" refers to wowcrendor's "Pointless Top 10" videos, where he always starts off with the goblin statue on Janiero's Point in Booty Bay.
-The vendor inside the statue is named Pointless Treasure Salesman
I'm gonna head over there
i feel like maybe pandaren, arakoa, and maybe tol'vir are the only ones who do lots of golden stuff?
could be the 5-man dungeon as well, in case you have time to check both
I'll try
I checked both uldum dungeons lost city and origination
In relation to where's papa duck ?
Its originally for the dungeon achievement in Vortex Pinnacle
the one you are missing is zandalari and i guess they do lots of golden stuff too
checked zul'nazman up and down, nothing. not sure if thats been looked into yet
I wonder if this channel should be called "pointless" instead of "greed"
according to the comments on wowhead, there are 9 golden orbs like our 9 pieces of hate, anyone checkingon those?
what about vortex pinnacle?
Nope didn’t check that one
Not sure they would lock it behind that. Pretty sure it requires high archaeology
Was mentioned a while ago in #thanks-josh that he tries not to put things behind professions etc
What i have checked so far:
Voldun - Port of Zem'lan completly underwater and the area
Twilight Highlands - The Krazzworks && Dragonmaw Port
Howling Fjord - Scalawg Point
Grizzly Hills - Venture Bay
Northern Barrents - Ratchet
Tanaris - Gadgetzan
Azshara - Bilgewater Harbor
Arathi Highlands (Both Timelines) - Faldir's Cove
Motherlode - Every House and under"water"
Going to bed now its 3 am
Had a thought, were looking for papa duck right? At least according to one book.
See if she knows where he is
The Quackcestor IS Papa Duck. Papa can mean grandfather
ive got to head out
can someone look into this
Has anyone checked Mogushan Palace?
aside from a muffin, we're not sure what we're looking for. After nine pieces of hate led us to booty bay, everyone keeps looking at piles of gold
probably the tuna or something to trade for the tuna idk
gator as in Tock under the cycle
Someone should use that watch toy inside halls of origination lots of sand maybe it’ll do something
That clock, and the other one remember me the clock tower in Gilneas
i still feel like there might be a combination we havent figured out yet for the Decryption Console. all the other ones vanished after we got the corresponding piece of hate.
Have people tried looking with Black ice toy buff on? Since you get that toy from the statue. A quest ends in there. You get black ice from the quest, along with some other items.
What was the best thing about the .1 patch for shadow lands for the player base ?
All this talk about muffins for the last two days, I had to go and make some french vanilla chewies with chopped pralines, topped with royal icing and dusted with cinnamon and sugar 😄 lol.. I'm ready to do some more searching now.
Got some new leads if anyone needs one!
Were these ducks ever figured out when they were added in 10.2 in Emerald Dream?
https://www.wowhead.com/npc=211964/funbam#comments
/way 55.51 25.64 Twaddle
/way 55.23 29.79 Bayki
/way 57.43 24.25 Funbam
/way 57.42 28.07 Jadoggy
Are we all just all over the place still randomly searching? Or is there something we're focused on?
we're randomly chasing possible leads
Ducks, Cats, Golden Muffin, still pre random
All over the place.
is this the same model of the fountain thingie right before the 430 door?
yup
yup
cats are a dead end, unless someone else has to interact with the note under fat louie, which shouldn't be necessary if you can complete all items solo
Where is this from?
Guys, don't forget to overcharge your tools. It maybe something that helps us.
LOL wait, i wast just looking for clues and ended up getting a mount
LOL nice dude
thats hype
jealous
i never got the one from the raid
thats luck
that's one weird looking muffin
looks for clues to unlock a mount - finds a mount
you still wearing all the lucky stuff?
i am lol
In regards to 'Ducks' in general, theres 4 hidden around Emerald Dream but idk if any connection or not, no one knew what to do with them at the time
Next xpac luck will be a thing in gear 👀
What if you can only find the golden muffin while dead 💀
I honestly have the best luck farming mounts when it comes to bosses you can 1 shot. From an ex-programmers perspective, it's better to let the fight start, and run on for about 5-10 seconds and then kill the boss. Don't just one shot it. You never give the roll system a chance to start randomizing loot. You wouldn't walk up to a Las Vegas slot machine and pull the lever to start the slots and then instantly pull it again to stop it. These loot systems are ran the same way. Code says here's a list of items to choose from when the boss dies. And if you instantly kill the boss, you're never giving that counter a chance to cycle through
If that’s the case I’d check with Bwonsamdi first. Dude likes food
has anyone looked into the "My'das Talisman" yet
Are there any creatures in the game that eat gold, and need to be encouraged to... Pass it?
does this apply to the lich king or does that slot keep running during the RP
it was mentioned earlier today but idk if people looked into it
Something like LK it's still rolling during RP
would assume
ok because i still havente gotten invincible lol
The code could also be ran at the event of the boss's death, but I just know personally I've had better luck waiting vs one shotting as fast as possible
What have we learned so far?
Also you never know if it's coded to reward players better for more lengthy fights.
That the muffin doesn't want to be found
😦
I think we didn’t go into the Mydas Talisman because we were thinking more Pyrite but could be worth a look anyway at this point
okay thanks, right now i'm looking around Loamm - zaralec cavern
that live document i made been used or are we still running around in circles like a muffin without a head?
Has anyone gone to say The Underrot to look there?
Guys I wasn't trolling with the oversized tools shot. There's literally an item sold by the guy who sells the inscence nest to Maru near Caverns of Time event area. It has an buff that doesn't have a timer so it doesn't fall off. Unlimited use item as well. One time buy
Look, if anyone eats gold, I'd suspect the earthen
They even have an "engineering dessert table"
Location?
There is a earthen that talks about delicious metal is in the earthen city.
just found a note ina bucket on the first floor of the catacomb that says 1292, no idea how long its been there lol
Dornogal, next to the engineering table
IF that dessert table does something, we have not figured out how to trigger it (so far)
Also the Enigma machine hasn't worked in 20 years. Do you think we can find it in WoW Classic? Or is the hunt confined to retail?
Why don't we make teams of 5 and each team gets a zone to explore the frack out of and cross em off the map
Has anyone used pocket watch inside catacombs?!?!
different servers completely so i dont think itd be in classic
are there any ties to the game Case of the Golden Idol?
this seem plausible
it does have muffins on it
and a missing spot for something
maybe the my’das amulet allows you to interact with the table
probably a big fat cat lmao
I mean, the cat room has a bunch of big fat cats, like dornogal
This is truly out of order, might be something to it?
i'm not 100% that the cat door is supposed to open like we think, theres no tooltip when you hover over it of any kind making me think it's a static model
Have the dead worgen always been outside the catacombs?
i don't recall one
im sure theres an old video of someone running it you could look at
Has anyone checked the pirate ship in caverns of time?
Confirmed, you CAN damage the statues, but nothing happens
I'm trying to get the golden orbs in the vortex pinnacle dungeon, there are 9 total, same as the coins, I got 4 so far
but I'm having issues with a boss that's supposed to knock me up in the air but the fucker always misses
im there now...where is it?
That orbs are for an achievment
the hallway leading down i believe
yeah near the purple aurora, stuck in a wall
ok ill chekc
man blizzard got us good with this step. i legit cant think of anything right now.
Perhaps we are searching for the wrong thing, or looking at the muffin wrong
any reference to this? https://www.wowhead.com/item=152998/carefully-hidden-muffin
It is looted from Feasel the Muffin Thief. In the Food & Drinks category. An item from World of Warcraft: Legion. Always up to date with the latest patch.
im assuming this isnt new
not for me they haven't.
nothing on the pirate ship
no luck, got all 9 golden orbs and nothing happened in VP
do i just never pay attention but were there always sand devils in the cot?
What news have surfaced?
nothing
they got added for guest relations, we had to kill them for pages of green hills of stranglethorn
this old? I don't remember seeing it
donde esta el muffin dorado
i already have it written down somewhere but didn’t break the code
ah okay, no worries
Did we ever break the Mankrik code? This could be the same cypher
I have two texts written down, on top of the Mankrik one, and I don’t know if they were ever translated. Maybe we’re stuck because we never actually broke the code in the first place
has anyone tried to use that midas trinket from ataldazar ?? or bring a muffin into BfD and dip it in gold
? im just throwing ideas
Se esta buscando por todo lo largo y ancho, en todas las relaidades y lineas temporales, ahaora la pregunta es, quien puede tener un muffin hecho de oro?
no sé
Tal vez un rey que ole guste acumular cosas extravagantes
JYPFFQVY
SGHO EIUII ABD MOO NK GHN, EDNY, DL LLSE
Nix ahz’tazi iko ixxo ex ahz’tazi oxin
We never broke the code in english, this could be why we're stuck. Any progress on decyphering those?
Someone already tried to use this food (THe Muffin Man at Shattrath sell it) in front of the Hozen statue?
Cus the fire gives stacks of intrigue too
Not even sure if muffin is related to 4th orb xD
Necesitamos un canal de discusión en español. u.u
Donde están los detectives hispanos? xD
12 hours of throwing my mind at you and we’re no closer than we were 12 hours ago 😆
Sounds/Looks Klaxxirelated.
just give me bike damnit
we are going full circle to full circle.
@fleet turtle you deserve a muffin role.
has there been any exploration on how when you wear the starry-eyed goggles outside, the sky changes? might be just a very pretty side effect
The pplaque above the door in the bike room reads this:
To be like me you’ll need to know
The missing rhyme
The crystal’s glow
The stars above
The space below
The time of now
For long ago
missing rhyme was the missing wife Olgra
the crystal was the obelisk
the stars above might be related
What makes you think the missing rhyme is Olga?
at the end of the 3'o clock we got 9 piece of hate. its a cryptic coin with the skull of a goblin on it. thats it. then some how we ended up at the janeiro statue and suddenly we focused on the muffin... what if the muffin and the janeiro statue arent even even part of the 4 o'clock orb
do you see a specific constelation or something
"the stars above" in the riddle probably refers to how we need to be wearing the goggles
Just going in order, I figure it would be here. Rhymes come in twos, and Mankrik and Olgra are a pair, shes missing because shs dead.
Stars above are probably the celebrities who run Hollywood /s
also, the 3 o clock orb still has small orbs around it... could indicate we are not done with that clue
MMMMMM..... maybe an extravagant goblin dude with many teasures, like Marin in Dalaran sewers?
the fact that the big orb appears makes me believe it's complete
but the other two are just large orbs, no small orbs
does anyone recognize the skybox when we put the goggles outdoors? Im thinking ardenweald but not sure
so either a bug or its not done
Josh personally wants to collect as many pieces of hate from as many people as possible, so that we eventually give up on this pointless activity he'll reward us with the golden muffin for being good little consumers
because we need to buy something with the golden muffin and hte 9 pieces of hate for orb 4. thats my best guess
have we tried asking maru for a hint??
the green thing in front of the snake statue kinda looks like muffin tops.
nevrmind he does nothing
the other two didn't need us to track progress. They both had a single condition. Go to all Olgra spots within the buff time, and pray to the obelisk to get a key
What kind of muffin do you know?
Listen we've been talking about muffins all day, I have nightmares.
Pattern looks very similar
Is the same pattern in many maps. Voldum included.
Ardenweald with goggles just adds a purple-ish hue to the sky
I dont know if its related or just a reused asset. Any relation to muffins in ardenweald?
We're not looking for the muffin again, are we? I thought that was tabled for the time-being. (sorry, didn't mean that to be a reply)
the ghost pirate boat on timeless isle did not drop the muffin
right haha sorry that muffin just keeps on being mentioned and wont leave my mind 😂
Im trying to decypher the texts as well, no luck yet
After so many hours I no longer know anything. By the way, I'm having muffins for dinner.
Wows biggest mystery to date: golden muffin 😵💫
Have we looked for statues of the moveable statues out in the world like we did for the goblin in booty bay?
not to my knowledge
my mind is muffins
When he said "timewise, the muffin is the halfway mark" or whatever.. I took that as "If you knew all the answers already and solved from scratch the muffin is about halfway"
Two of the statues can be found freehold
Maybe it's some kind of reward for cooking contest, golden globe- golden muffin idk anything is an idea at this point
ok while in Loamm zaralek cavern, did two cavern digs with Myrrit Sniffenseeker, ran out of boulders to buy maps, A few item look familiar while looking around, lots of gold piles ...has anyone else check this out??
I took it as cryptic because of all the cryptic books in the room therefore something halfway of the instance means muffins
(I might be going insane)
IM going to have Nightmares about this muffin
I spent the whole mythic raid and then another half hour in naz trying to get this to drop a deluxe tuna:
(it did not)
it made it to a work convo
Some might say, a lucid nightmare 🧐😏
There's an ogre statue that you can have in your garrison
anyone has a link to the chinese text and its translation? I can try to reverse engineer the cypher
I just had a thought, has anyone checked Utgard Pennicle?
The statues?
Oh yeah
i looked with goggles on, no dice
what about island expeditions?
Tanaris sky with goggles (outside of anniversary area)
The word "ahz’tazi" appears twice in the text. It has a very unique structure. Anyone know what it could be?
That fish tank is in the forbidden reaches solo instance eh in the rooms. Zkera vaults
Where do you read that?
A few minor things here... some of you may already know these, so this is for those that might not have found these out. The "Observed: You are being Watched" debuff upstairs is only in front of the crystal room. And Rubenstein has 4 separate elements (Rubenstein, Rubenstein's Dagger, Rubenstein's Left Eye, and Rubenstein's Right eye (the eyes move but don't seem to follow you specifically)).
"Nix ahz’tazi iko ixxo ex ahz’tazi oxin"
Here #1308884710469926922 message
We never actually broke the code from 1oclock, and I wonder if we are missing elements because we cant decypher the other texts in the catacombs
Even we forgot the peculiar key, have the message DR, lead us to the crypt, but we never use it
True, we technically didnt use it to open the catacombs.. unsure if it's still needed though
Catacombs won't show up without the key in your inventory
also somethingh to think about here too is that we also believed that we are following these orbs in a clock wise direction yet we still have 10 o'clock and 7 o'clock started...so maybe our approach is totally wrong
true but neither has been completed yet. Until they are, we won't know if the riddles must be solved in order
or only specific orbs
Like the riddle in the plate above the dorr in flecycle room
Maybe the other are merely distractions?
Work as 3 makes me feel like we need to be in a party of 3
like how we needed 5 for hive mind
probably old, but this note on the wall at the bottom of the entry stairs only appears with goggles
I was just trying to code break it with enigma but nothing so far
Or 3 tools
I think it's been confirmed that you can do eveery puzzle solo
its intended to solve these in order.
Yea it just means the combo of tools
this was solved for the pieces of hate
that's a clue for one of the codes
Maybe not, other riddles needs more peaople to be solved, like the hivemind
in fact, can more than one enter the catacomb at the same time?
yes. but meant to be soloable.
Josh confirmed solving it is not critical/benefical other than the satisfaction
im buying muffins and footing the bill to Josh.
the ghost is definetly the 2nd member on that 3
We don't need to solve the 1oclock code, but we still have two other codes that havent been used yet:
- JYPFFQVY
- Nix ahz’tazi iko ixxo ex ahz’tazi oxin
I was thinking the same thing!
i dont agree with this metaphor that its beeing stated as a fact
Look like demonic, or even the old god language
Point 2 has been translated with a Nerubian potion to "Red herrings are a kind of kippered fish." already
unless it is the three cats
wait a moment... we have a duck fish lure in the catacomb... and we can fish red fishes
Rosy Sprats, yeah.
and the text called The List refers to rulers with red hair -> red hairing (someone else's comment)
I caught a Rosy Sprat in the cvatacombs water.
Fish lure, cats, red fish.... maybe the cats needs be feed?
has anyone turned in Nesingwary ear or the hate coins?
Perhaps the peculiar key is something that needs more consideration then
true the ear talks of DEHTA
Coins can't be turned in until we get the Golden Muffin.
The ears have lead nowhere (was part of an old questline)
Yeah, you need 15 of them for a repeatable turn-in.
Well, the ear come from a pirate corpse, maybe be a clue leading us to booty bay
Dark magic, initials DR
crossed out so it would be its old owner
and the goblin statue too
it led us to a piece of hate
thats a point
DR stands for the Dark Riders
Mmmmmm.... some spot some weird where the skelton vendor be?
they were capture by Medivh and forced to collect artifacts for them, artifacts that are in the catacombs we are in
Goblin Statue in Booty Bay
Has anyone tried giving a rosy sprat to any of the npcs listed on the Unlabeled Document?
Or even 17 of them?
but we didn't use the key, so it's still relevant, so it must be used somewhere else
wiat wait wait, thats the list where all listed are readheads? interesting
I just found a paper with the number 80 under a.table in the nature room
Guessing no news on the idol yet?
Yes
Exactly, maybe there's something with those NPCs and kippered fish
I assume people have done the original quest chain in the catacombs?
also, the lil walrus people were super relevant for all the storylines, and they like fish, maybe they would like some red herrings lmao
Uuuuuuuuu smell like a clue
work on it
I assume someone has gone to manor mistmantle in duskwood?
If they are all redheads then maube it's a red herring
I sppoted some funny, the name "the Indecipherable Felcycle", maybe somre riddles are intentionally indcripherable
Gotta go, hopefully something will click! Good luck!
Has anyone tried Patos battle pet with the cats? Patos was in the unkept aquarium which looks similar to the aquarium in the catacombs
Not working
In spanish, the fish name are Engañifo rosado, actuali we have a pet named Engañifo and actually are a cat
AAAAAAAnd are fel
curious.....
Beating Feasel with three cats has already been tries right ?
try with 2 cats. 2 + you = 3
That's Mischief in English right?
Since that's a store pet, it won't be applicable. Was already stated that shop purchases are not required nor is it still currently available.
I can't even seem to battle Feasel. I get an error about a teleportation.
show the error
Thats correct, and they say there any purchase are necesary to resoñve any clue
has anyone tried to summon a fish battle pet near the cats' door?
i tried one
I can't go grab a screenshot anymore. The skull ghost is gone for me for the day, and Feasel's no longer appears for me.
Not working
are thereany toys that turn things into gold?
"alchemy" was historically a belief that there must be an undiscovered chemical process of turning iron into gold. It turned out to be impossible using chemistry, but became theoretically possible when nuclear physics was discovered.
So maybe a toy or some other item from alchemy
Holy crap, Milo come out
kidnap the cat, the ramson will be the bike. There, I solved the puzzle
thats just the wow engine / server being the 20year old way it is. Thats nothing.
Well, is the only cat close enough to be pet
yeah, everything resets when you leave
you can loot all the ears you want
get your DEHTA rep up using this one simple trick!
In ordero to funnel discussion to a single place please use #felcycle-solved-read-only
I cant see the solution for 4 and 5 cana anyone ping it to me plz ( tryed seeing the pinned post but it doesnt work ) and the discussion is insane im getting.lost
they dont updat .....
me to bro cant find
help us somebody
I tryed searching for it through the discussion BUT people keep sending message and my app just keep refreshing ...haha
indeed people are spamming like crazy...
you can see it on wowwikki
https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Incognitro,_the_Indecipherable_Felcycle
Incognitro, the Indecipherable Felcycle is a Burning Legion chopper mount. Its source in the Mount Journal is listed as "WoW's 20th Anniversary?", and it requires solving a lengthy series of Secrets of Azeroth puzzles, using the standard tools for those: the toys [Torch of Pyrreth], [Tricked-Out Thinking Cap], and [Idol of Ohn'ahra]. Obtainin...
Found this on a fb group but i feel like something is missing
This isnt even updated yet either.
that message is pinned in #felcycle what do you think is missing
What if you as a character, the phantom and that one that is watching you in the crystal room are the 3 persons that the poems talk about when mentioning the muffin?
Its just 4 sentence for all the headache we had ..is not alot hahaha
Not saying its necessary missing something ..just want to make sure before doing it
Power of 3 is the secret pets to beat jeremy I think
I mean we just found it and we are trying to collate the information right now for everyone to follow
we just would like a little patience
But we want it noooooow! But seriously, thanks, like many I just wanted to make sure I wasn't overlooking or missing something, if it's just not been put out in a clean guide yet, groovy... Thanks!
I was just asking if it was the complete information ..wasent trying to be ride or anything ..just the conversation as went insane ...and cant find it there ..but anywhay goodluck
Oh no. I hate wow pets
is this actually solved i dont see the solution at the top?
a few posts above yours lets you know we're working on it
4 o clock
Requires you to use the Scroll of Fel Binding from Vashti (https://www.wowhead.com/npc=91079/vashti-the-wandering-merchant) at Uthers Tomb in Western Plaguelands (52, 83) (Or a warlock doomguard). Once you do graffiti will appear on the tomb. Reading the graffiti unlocks orb 4
Credit is also given to nearby players if someone else does this.
The clue for this step was the following: The letters from the clue scraps around the catacombs made an anagram that formed 'Bring Doom to Lights Tomb'.
Script to see if you have completed this step
/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(84780))
what is this? no perfect guide written and posted the second WF orb 4 is up? seems kinda lazy to me 

dont be sad, just be better ❤️ 😘
jokes aside good job on the new orbs bud
says you can only summon outside
do you have to summon it and then bring it over to the tomb?
thats what i just did and it worked
stupid to ask but where is jeremy if not in darkmoon isladn
I cant talk to Zarhym, reload or taking idol off doesnt help, what should i do?
Turning game off and on helped, so solved
do we just have to click the runes? or does a new window pop up like when we read a book or something ingame?
because rn nothing happens for me when i click the runes
u clic runes and 4 pillar is up
yeah, they aren't readable while incombat i found out
after i used FD i could read them properly, but the druid who was here killed it before i cuold finish lol
I'm really sorry but my game (and mother tong is french) so I don't really understand what means to have 4 O'clock Pylon lit ... and what we have to do to validate this quest...
can you add this script to your pin so people check if they correctly completed the step?
It will return true if they have 4 O'clock Pylon lit, if it returns false then that means they didn't got the credit
/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(84780))
ok
it's the 12 things around the mount, each one of them lights up and gets an orb when a part is complete
thats whats meant with pylons being lit
So since pet battles is 5 now, we basically still have not found muffin?
yes but I thought that the pet battle with Jeremy is the thing to do to lit the 4th pylon right ? And not to have the 4th pylon lit ut before Jeremy give the quest ? It's confusing...
no thats pylon 5 by the looks of it, i dont know why people talk about it in pylon 4
Maybe we should change this step's name to DOOM
so any1 wanna do this with me ? havent played much the laste like 10 years... just picked up the fel scroll
alliance btw
So what we have to do before to finish pylon 4 ... now I have what is it in the picture... I missed somthing... but don't undersand what... and It's so many messages everywhere ...
4 o clock
Requires you to use the Scroll of Fel Binding from Vashti (https://www.wowhead.com/npc=91079/vashti-the-wandering-merchant) at Uthers Tomb in Western Plaguelands (52, 83) (Or a warlock doomguard). Once you do graffiti will appear on the tomb. Reading the graffiti unlocks orb 4 i think
go to uthers tomb in WPL, read the graffiti on the floor while a Doomguard is alive nearby, you can have a warlock summon one or use the scroll sold by the Aszuna vendor
party credit isnt working btw. Just got a friend who finished it, and i didnt get it
apparently a warlock can summon his doomguard and it counts to everyone around ( i was there trying to trigger it with Lil'Doomy battle pet and some random walliance warlock ran in while summoning the doomguard)
so we go to WPL before doing the pet battle?
people were summoning outside the tomb and I just typhooned it inside
some trolls are killing it
which clock is the pet battle stuff?
dont think the pet thing is for 4oclock, thjink its for 6 oclock
ty!
i thought the next step after getting 9 pieces was a muffin
Where is the grafitti? and Im guessing it just needs to be summoned right outside since it says i cant use the scroll inside? I just killed the doomguard from the scroll accidently since I didnt see any grafiti, gotta grab another scroll now >.<
i killed it inside because it was out of control 😦
this is so confusing
im at uthers tomb too next to the plaque
ye me to, but the fuffin havent been found yet
just as you enter on the floor
so is 4 o clock solved?
it has a little investigating icon on your cursor
because i am giving u just the solution of what to do, if you were solving the steps u would have known
Oh ok.. It just appear now... so.. sorry but it was haward...
Is it possible to go with a warlock party friend, or does the doomguard have to be under your control specifically?
E: I'm a dumdum and completely glossed over the "credit is given to nearby players" bit. I will go to the quiet corner now.
yes thats why I have (Or a warlock doomguard) in the pin 😄
@fathom citrus
for those who are blind like me
Thank you for the screenshot!
we know what the stone of prophecy is for?
question
can i do the pet battle on an alt and send the muffin to my main after
forgot i locked my self this morning while doing research
oh this is so cute
well, seems pretty solved to me
also, a warning, when the demon is invoke you get insta killed
it was only 4 different things to read right?
#1308884710469926922 message
y'all gotta stop attacking josh this is a secret mount not a giveaway if you want that, go get the mtn dew mount
the script returned true for me despite not right clicking any of the graffiti nor using the scroll, just many players around summoning demons and killing them
I did, my question is I only read 4 different graffity thingies so wanted to sure if that was all 🙂
do you have the script for me?
i only read one
/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(84780))
ty
why when i use the scirpt i die instant
Probably old, but I just got to Uther's Tomb and killed a Doomguard. If I run the script it says true. So I think you don't need to use the Scroll, just kill the Doomguard.
So for 4 oclock. No pet battle needed? No muffin at all? WTF is going on?
How did you guess a doomguard was required ^^ ?
Bring doom to the tomb of light?
Ah, I was very confused, my discord knowledge must be lacking, it looked at first like this still wasn't solved. The wiki is just out of date I guess too?
if i have done everything with my hunter can i come with my warlock for the fourth pyre?
This is so broke, got quest done and jeremy has no quest
Muffin is 5 oclock, not 4, we were missing a step apparently
I hate battle pet battles, I can never win the 25 ones
How are you getting it done? I just die when I summon the demon :<
think 5 is pets... muffin is probably even later
so what do we need to do for 4??
read the pinned messages in here (ctrl+p on desktop)
4 o clock
Requires you to use the Scroll of Fel Binding from Vashti (https://www.wowhead.com/npc=91079/vashti-the-wandering-merchant) at Uthers Tomb in Western Plaguelands (52, 83) (Or a warlock doomguard). Once you do graffiti will appear on the tomb.
Admittedly it was a complete mess at Uther's tomb - However I could only see the graffiti when the doomguard was alive.
can i sacrifice a mob close to the toumb?
you can sacrifice yourself rigth at the front
rez and run in and read the graffiti, then it will disappear
do u only need toclick on oneof them
would the script say "true" if I've done it?
o there's a script right
so i sacrifice myself just at the door?
walk outside, click the fel item, you kill yourself, your run back revive at your body, run into the tomb and read the graffiti
once you read it it will disappear and its unlocked
is this graffiti supposed to be super visible? because I don't see anything
Its on the floor, for me it vanishes when there's no Doomguard up
reddish brown - visable but not super visable
The graffiti is markings on the rug on the floor
oh, there it goes
someone else did it and it appeared
When I killed myself and came back to rez, it wasn't there
If a warlock has a doomguard summoned you dont need the fel piece to read it
I didn't use the script and I ran back and it was unlocked
It's good for me
any pets work out of the pinned msg
welp, on to 5 o'clock
i ran the script it says "true" but i never saw the graffiti
it's like the 2 o'clock step. if you're close by while someone else summons the doomguard/reads the graffiti you'll also get credit
(you can edit messages on discord... hit the up arrow or click the pencil icon while hovering over your message -- like this!)
i have four orbs now guys
fast
you need to got see vasht in azuna get scroll of fel binding and go to uthers tomb read the graffiti on floor
do you need to be dead or alive for the graffiti?
alive
thanks, should be done
was there any idication when you were attthe tomb that anyuthing happened?
no
what's been really handy for me during these quests has been the "All the Things" addon, it prints a message in chat when a quest is complete. I summoned via the Fel Sroll and immediately died, but ATT showed quest completed and I verifed with the Script posted above
QUESTION is uthers tomb at WPL ? for some reason my tomtom point to coldridge valley
hi
finally, Zharym has reappeared and I was able to go and do the mascot fight against Feasel which I won hands down ...although it didn't give anything^^
Can I leave the spirit world quietly to continue? and who gives the muffin?
thank you
theres no muffin i guess. thats for part 5 now
in west ern plague lands
how do u solve orb 4 ???? its not posted anywhere
ooh sorry wrong place sorry guys
what does the thing look like? i used the scroll and nothing happened
i got the scroll felsummoning from vasht in azuna and went to uthrs tomb and read the grfitti on the ground wich can on be done when fel gaurd is alive . be warned if you sommun one you will die
start at grave on ground and read all 4 on ground around the room
thanks found them
just a note, in uther's tomb i didn't have to summon the doomguard or damage someone else's doomguard. i just went in and clicked it. other doomguards were around
what happens when someone is killing the doomguards?
people around were killing them but there was mostly one or two up at a time and no one was one shotting them so there was enough time i could go in and click real fast
where to use the teleport relict?
i died summoning it and everyone around froze trap it to keep it around lol
So you actually dont need to waste 500g on the item if someone else has summoned it right?
I'm at the tomb, I used the scroll to summon the demon, it's alive, and I see no graffiti
it's red and on the ground
that seems to be the case
kind of like the /pray clue, wish i knew that before spending 25k gold on a costume ><
Guys is there any PINNED message that shows the steps for 4th orb? - Nevermind, it wasn't showing , now it is
No
I followed ConCon's guide on Youtube
what do we do with the pets? I just read the graffiti bit
It is here
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From: https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Incognitro,_the_Indecipherable_Felcycle
The 4 o'clock pillar is completely solved. A player must purchase a [Scroll of Fel Binding] from Vashti and use it at Uther's Tomb in Western Plaguelands. This will kill the player and spawn a demon. As long as that demon is present, regardless of which player spawned it, every player in the area can see four sections of graffiti on the floor of the tomb. Reading those lights the fourth pillar.
Incognitro, the Indecipherable Felcycle is a Burning Legion chopper mount. Its source in the Mount Journal is listed as "WoW's 20th Anniversary?", and it requires solving a lengthy series of Secrets of Azeroth puzzles, using the standard tools for those: the toys [Torch of Pyrreth], [Tricked-Out Thinking Cap], and [Idol of Ohn'ahra]. Obtainin...
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i used Scroll of Fel Binding, die instantly, doomguard was killed by someone else after rez, no graffiti 😦
you have to let it live to read it
impossible then, everyone's killing him as soon as he pops 
Wait for someone else to spawn it, then go and read it quickly
there are a total of 4 red grafitis surounding utars statue on the floor, not sure if you need to read them all or just one
i read the rug in the back
doomguard has to be close to the doorway or the graffiti does not appear
4 O'Clock / DOOM
Using the scroll kills me. How are yall getting past this?
guys i only clicked on one graffiti tile and got my 4th orb complete....is this bad? do i need to get all 4 clicked?
After the 9 pieces of hate , we do this demon, scroll, runes thing everyone is talking about on here, which will give us orb 4, then you go to timeless isle to do a battle pet with Jeremy feasel in the ghost cave using secret pets, when you beat him, then he will give you the quest for the muffin
literally same thing happened to me, only it was a dracthyr who then proceeded to laugh at me
How was the solution found?
is there any script to see if its done ?
/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(84780))
Why is this marked as solved if it isn't? 😄
my script said it was done but i onkly clicked one graffiti?
the script u posted is flagged as true for me without having read the graphiti. is it ok or do I have to redo it?
if /run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(84780)) is true, i can go to do the pet battle?
so to beat master of secrets i need to have all 3 secret pets on max level?
hey so I'm at the coordinates for the obelisk in Vale, but it's not showing up- I've definitely gotten through all the BfA content back when it was current.
Does it only show during the assault?
nvm- found it, I was looking for one of the huge ones
can someone update the top? what are the steps for 4?
I was wondering the same as 4th is lit up...
does the demon have to be alive? because mine is always killed when i have sacrificed myself...
If you summon a demon too far away from the altar, it kills you
im confused, is 4 solved?
but I can't do it inside, it says I have to do it outside
can some1 tell what relic of connection do ? or where use that
people are doing it with doomguard
what are the steps for 4 just summon the doomguard?
yes it is summon dommguard with warlock or buy scroll for 500g in azsuna and click uther tomb and done
And click on the graffiti on the ground. All 4
It's annoying when I'm not supposed to die, but I die when I summon him, and I can't do it inside.
after click the 4 graffiti it shoul appear something? not sure if I'm doining right
No, just the orb back at the catacombs
how do i do it right? i've tried it 3 times now, keep dying and don't see anything when i get there again.
People already had a few summoned when I got there, and it was visible on the floor.
oh so it also works if someone else does it? ok then i'll pay attention to the floor, thanks.
do u just need to come back and res?
because i dont see anything and att says ive completed quest
any1 who completed the pet battle can help, ive got the lockout sadly ?
quick question: its the item from Marsuul (muffin)in argus still nessesery to contine the steps until the petbettle?
No, I never got it
any1 ?
so i dont need to wair for the rare mob and contine the step, right?
Correct. It was just lead us to the timeless isle. It isn't necessary to progress
you completed the battle ?
okay thank you ♥
Yes
could you help me ?
i have the daily lockout due to this morning lol
How can I help? Grouping doesn't work.
josh mentioned that people who already completed could help the other with it
I can tell you what pets I used but that's about it.
Spyragos, Terky and Jenafur.
i have the pets
all 25
i just cant enter the spirit realm
due to the daily lockout
looted somethign this morning
while i was investigating
I think some said you can still see him with the goggles on?
I'm not sure what you want me to do here
Where on the wall are the grafiti supposed to appear?
On the floor
I can't find hte runes ><
doomguard has to be up
after interacting with the runes are we supposed to get a magnifying glass?
cause I haven't
yeah checked the bike room, orbs there all good
i beat Jeremy Feasel but i have no quest 😦
Why is the grafiti no appearing? Im in tomb, and used a scroll
If you've spent your 500g, try waiting around for someone else to use it and click one of the graffiti
Do I have to have the other tags done before doing this one?
Does it have to be your doomguard?
no
Do you ahve to have done the previous step before? as in 3 o clock? cause i ´ve been at it for like 30 mins, and it don´t show up
so many doomguards
is there any pins to this step or a guide, or do i have to scroll through 3k+ messages? :p
so gonna have to wait til reset for being able to go into spirit realm i guess. accidentally earlier did the achi for the skull guy to find his bones. whoops XD
lv\l
do you know how much do we have to wait?
nnnnnnn
i think its a daily reset? not 100% though
at least for me anyway
damm well I have time to get me some pets then lol
what do you have to do for this one? im at the tomb with someone else's doomguard and i read all 4 graffiti but i didnt get a looking glass effect
if youve not done anything with the skull/spirit thing, you should be able to continue the step. i unfortunately did an achi with it earlier so it wont show for me.
I did click it and kill some add, then i lost the spirit world buff and the skull dissapeared lol
Wait a minute, every single item Vashti is carrying has to be for the felcycle
seems like it
bottle of steam, we have a steam ward in the main puzzle room, the costume, the scrolf of binding
exotic critter liscense
I think the coupon book will be needed too
good thing I had a few grandin gold left to buy the items lmao
How do you know that the four graffiti counted? Im not getting any visual confirmation.
you should hear it
visual and audio ping
okay so the graffiti is the final step I assume
I summoned a doom guard and it killed me. But the quest macro shows True. Am I good to go or do I need to try again?
also I just noticed if someone uses the scroll and you own a scroll, it will use your scroll too
and yes if someone uses it and reads them all everyone in range gets credit
same
Summoned doomguard, died instantly, rezzed, killed doomguard, no sign of graffiti, /run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(84780)) shows true and the fourth orb is present
i thought i had screwed it up, but even without reading any graffiti i have the orb
ah, same as Ore 🙂
What if you need to bring a specific Muffin with you and head into dazar (opulence) and have to soak the golden surge?
I’ve killed myself twice now. Thought maybe I was doing something wrong but the scroll doesn’t consume a summoned pet or an attacking enemy.
My script is still showing false
It took me like 5-6 times of people summoning to get all four. then the script showed true
Well what’s the trick then?
I was just ready to click them right away. There is one on the carpet that is hard to see.
Faced my camera looking down so I could see them all pop up.
I guess I really don't understand how this works. Doesn't make sense at all to me
you can solo summon doom, you die and respawn and he still there
taunt him into and there are the graffitis
i just did
Oh, well he's dead before I get back. People outside tomb are just killing them out of instinct I guess
Does Feasel not spawn frequently?
I've been sitting here in Eredath for almost 30 minutes waiting and nothing
any gamers doing summons to here
is this actually solved?
Man, I'm thinking its just a couple hundred trolls or something
Been here inside the tomb for an hour and no symbols still. I wander if being in the modern Lordearon timeline matters
wtf I used the scroll and was instantly killed
That’s what’s supposed to happen. Apparently you have to have pyres 1-3 completed before the graffiti shows up too
Lol I love how I stopped at aszuna for the 500g scroll only to instantly complete the quest upon arriving at the tome
Where is the 4 oclock guide?
I summoned the doomguard outisde uthers tomb but didnt see grafitti 😦
something I am misisng
you dont need the muffin theif rare

/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(84780))
that will tell you if complete
What will that show if it is?
true if you have done it, false if not
where do I run it?
oh ok
I did not read the graffiti, and I got "true" after /run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(84780)). I did use the Fel Scroll though and sacrified myself in the process.
good to hear that the self-sacrifice works to complete that tracking quest
God how do i get around people killing my doomguard?
if you did the sacrifices, run the macro that deleros posted to see if you got credit for it
Strange thing for me is I summoned and killed him but see no runes on the ground to read
But when I use the /run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(84780)) it says true XD
and the orb is there
Grrr got locked out of Zarhym
if he's still there but not interacting with you, relog
4 O'Clock / DOOM thread marked as 'Solved', but no pinned info here?
this is the doom thread, which is 4 o clock
yeah, corrected 😉
@outer musk not sure what you are asking. there are pins
ook, can't see them when browsing 'this way' 😛 thanks 🙂
update this post with solutiopn pls, so its on top of the thread
when i summon the doomguard it kills me?
@royal nexus that is what it does. but did you get credit for this quest? Script to see if you have completed this step
/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(84780)) - write this in chat in-game and press enter
done 😄
thx
is it bugged - having an issue with 3x secret pets at level 25, have the fourth orb (questIsCompleted shows true), not in a group & I have no torch or googles on -- beat him twice, no quest populates
@ocean sentinel what are the pets you are using?
I hope they fix it in group I still cant win at this rate no bike for me
@sage pebble did you check if xu-fu has any guides? https://www.wow-petguide.com/Section/107/Incognitro,_the_Indecipherable_Felcycle
I use some that build it befor maybe due not being in rare form and still green pets
spyragos/glimr/wicker pup - all 25 & rare
having rare pets is usually important as they will get better stats, yes
I win 5 times with Doom ,Spyragos and Wicker pup and 2 times with Spyragos, Terky, Wicker still no quest - any ideas ?
@wooden scroll did you complete previous pylons? you have to do them in order. 1 -> 2 -> 3 etc
I think yes ... but, hm .. thanks, will check again
finally!!! got it
@wooden scroll also make sure you have your goggles on
Anyone for Doomguard summon, need 4 more party members :p
can the doomguard be enslaved for it to work or must he go rampage?
@vapid blaze @dusk fable Hey, just a quit tip. Anyone (any class) can use the Brazier of Awakening (from a treasure in WoD - Tanaan Jungle) when using the Scroll of the Doomguard in the 4 O'Clock step here. If people don't wanna have to walk a long way. Just tested it here and it worked, dropped the Brazier Beforehand, and 1-3s after I died from the Scroll, it popped a rez on me.
If you guys wanna update the guide(s)
Remember to have some sort of CC to throw on the Doomguard, so you have 'time' haha
if i leave the pet battle area to buy some bandages, can i return without getting the daily lockout ?
Didn't even think of that, i just soulstoned myself xd thanks! Will add to our things in a bit
Kann mir jemand Helfen ?? Someone can help me ??
anyone already completed to help with the pet battle -- that dam monkey never wants to die and always ends up at like 45 before he kills my pets off
using nelthara, gurgi and wicker pup
Silly question: I don't suppose a pet like Lil'Kaz counts as "Doom" for the tomb? (I have done the step the step already)
any groups for the pet battle going on?
its not working like that, was missinformation
Fucking! Same!
Hey is that all what I have to do for this? I only see this when I click in the info on 4 o clock
@signal trail yes. run this script in-game to see if it says "true", then you are done. Script to see if you have completed this step
/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(84780))
k thx
Someone have Uuna to help me please ?
hi guys do you think i can do it with this combination (ofc i will level up the Terky)
WHERE IS THE CUPCAKE???? // just realized it not required for 4 / ( it's Azsuna Scroll for 4 )
hi, i have a prob. the ghost npc is lost? yesterday he was here?
Someone can help me with Uuna ?
can anyone help
do you have any 25 pet? i leveling my pets with 2 lvl 25 pets and the lvl 1, at start change the lvl 1 pet to the lvl 25 pets and winn, you get a lot of exp
i have them at level 25 but it seams too weak
thats are my pets, the monkey killing me all the time, so i guess i will change the wicker with Snowclaw Cub
this is the biggest bulshit in the game, i hate Battle pets
and this is where i quit with doing the felcycle
Good luck everyone and well done to all of you have find those secrets
They have it set up to be easy to lvl pets if needed. Squirt is always up at event grounds and is the fastest way to lvl pets.
did they fix were works in groups he kicking my butt? an i cant win if not i going rage an forget about this bike
so how do you summon the doomguard with the scroll, without it killing you?
I think you can summon it, it will kill you and you still get quest credit? I could be wrong. check this script in-game:
/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(84780))
says false when i run it 😦
i used baa'l, jenafur, and wicker.
you just run back, while its alive, you read all four runes on the ground, you cannot kill it or you have to go all the way back to aszuna to get another 500g scroll
some alliance killed mine while i was trying to iron out an addon error that made it so i couldnt read the graffiti and now i have to go get another scroll
well, just went back and bought 4 scrolls just in case lol
you can also wait for someone else to come there and summon a doomguard
I got quest credit (message from ATT) without reading the graffiti. Someone had doomguard there and I got credit by getting to the entrance
I fought for 2 hours with all sorts of variations to get the pet battle mission, but I missed Uther 
When you are done with Uther's Tomb/4th orb, go to https://discord.com/channels/223122687227199489/1310554401387319358 for next steps on the pet battle. There are a lot of easy pets to get and easy ways to get charms to level them that don't even require leveling. There is also step by step guides on which abilities to use.
warlock here, used the scroll for step 4 at the tomb, died, soul stoned back to life but i see no graffiti?
that dude rng finaly won after many time due monkey aoe me form dead
you just click the 4 tags on the floor right?
yes. dont think you even need to do that. you just need to be there when a doomguard is present. run the script in the pins to see if the quest us "true"(completed) for you @fast tulip
took 4 tries but these guys worked
Do they pets have to be max rarity?
no, but it helps a lot as they get better stats
im seaching and i cant see if theres prereqs for this. i used the scroll just outside t he tomb because it requires you to be outside. i died kille the doomwalker then went in and nothing.
leave the doomguard alive in order to see the graffiti
So how exactly did they get the message from the notes that leads to uther's grave?
uhm. just for testing issues. i´m on that part noww with my Demonhunter and there is no demon around. but i can see the graffittis. Maybe does a DH count as a doomguard? Or doom in general?
quite possible, I won with Gurgl-Tap-Wicker
make sure wicker is last in your lineup, so he gets two free heals. the only thing you need to be careful of is beating Jeremy in the undead phase which will not count as a win
i can't see anything on the floor
any previous orb required?
update the pinnned message because i just lost quite some time without seeing anything
I went to test if Lil'Kaz counted last night (he does not). I walked in summoned him and could see the graffiti ... then started getting spells cast at me from under the ground. There appeared to be a Doomguard stuck somewhere under the ground that was letting me see the graffiti. No idea how someone managed that. I could not target it but it could attack me.
Am I a noob or am I missing something something i have done everything upto pylon 3 and the script is telling "true" but i have no orb i have been back to uthers tomb numerous times but still not orb no 4. I tried the pet battle won but no quest i presume because no no 4 pylon ....can anyone help me pls 🙂 thanks
thank you for the support i actually beat him but ii had to buy 150k gold pet to do that xD
Is there no alternative to the Doomguard step to having multiple people present? The place is empty, so the Doomguard despawns if I use the scroll myself.
if you summon it while inside the vault you should get credit automatically. run this to check:
/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(84780))
Thanks - still had to come up with a way to read the graffiti but someone came and helped in the end 🙂
the tracking quest will complete automatically for them if they use the scroll inside the tomb building.
you can't use the scroll inside
thanks
now I have to wonder if the quest is triggered from summoning the doomguard or from interacting with the graffiti
@opal parrot it triggered for me when I arrived. several doomguards there but I hadnt had time to click anything
I just tested on an alt and only got the quest to complete after interacting 🤔
I'll test with another alt later
hm, maybe I remember completely wrong and did click, but I dont think so.
I'll test again tomorrow with a friend, I need a good screenshot of the graffiti anyway 😄
/p
Is there an explanation how "Bring Doom to Lights Tomb" was obtained? I saw a list of alphabetized notes. But in that form they are missing letters to even write the sentence.
nvm I found it
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0 crit
maybe switch rotation and abilities. this was the thing what helps me
Hello!
Josh be stalling us so he can watch the chaos unfold!!!!!
Winning team, you can just buy the pets from AH
What strat did you use for this combo? I'm struggling.
Pet Battle Site has several strats: https://www.wow-petguide.com/Strategy/22576/Jeremy_Feasel
I got it. There's a fair bit of rng involved.
how do you get through the hallway with the things you cant touch?
nvm figured it out. also 2 tries and i won with baal, spyragosa, and snowclaw cub
Hello everyone, I am using the scroll at the entrace but once I get back to my corpse and ress I do not see the runes, does anyone know what is going on?
If the demon is dead they sigils go away
that's the point of the scroll, it kills the nearest entity (you are the nearest entity)
so kill yourself, thne corsperun and hope the runes are up?
as long as you use it right by the tomb you should get credit
ah you dont need to click anything
run this macro:
/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(84780))
clicking the graffiti was required for my friends
I also tested it on an alt, the doomguard was alive, the graffiti were up but quest was false
I clicked the graffiti, quest flagged as completed
question, if the macro ran for the quest
says true does that mean it scomplete?
i didnt read anything
True means done
hey back tracking what was the clue that made us go to uther tomb?
is this solved or unsolved still